How to Think About Parry 4 | Fencing Tutorial [Bladework] (Foil, Epee)
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Hi All,
Sorry for the huge delay in posting. We've been really busy working on a ton of projects, which we can't wait to share with you! In the meantime, please enjoy this Mr. Miagi-style video showing good parry 4 technique versus bad technique. With a good parry 4, we defend away from ourselves, deflecting the opponent's blade while leaving their target with our tip. With a bad parry 4, we actually help the opponent score by cradling their blade into our target! Please keep in mind, everyone has their own preferences with how they 'take the blade,' and there are definitely some situations that call for the backwards motion of the hand. In general, though, we recommend keeping one's hand in front of themselves, even when we parry or threaten the opponent's target.
Please let us know your thoughts and feel free to send us videos of you trying out this exercise! eli@sclass.ca
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This was great. The hand rotation is a great point but pulling your arm back is JUST as important and it's great that you show how both mistakes can ruin a parry.
Time to add this to my (swordless) drills!
Also, thanks for being one of the few channels to actually get into the technical aspects of fencing! I cannot state enough how your videos have lead to a better understanding of what/how to improve!
Comments like this make our day. Thank you for the encouragement. More videos on the way :)
Can't wait for the parry 6 sequel
In my case, I am waiting for parry 2
do you guys have like a discord server or something? would be a nice way for us community folks to connect with each other, discuss about fencing and stuff
this actually might help me with my horrible defense
Holy shit this happens to me, I need to work on not bringing my hand back
My crazy theory is that this is very reason - and solution of the paradox - why old longsword tradition says that ,,one who defends is never safe" or ,,they who fence against sword and not the body are doomed" while teaching mostly parry-ripostes.
Some very “interesting” fencing instructional videos about, yours are consistently a class apart. Got into watching them during lockdown/Covid and only just sorted out logging in (& subscribing) so I can like them all. Helps me seem cleverer than I am at club. Really impressive stuff, hope to see many more. Thanks.
You are moving your hand too much, parries are made with the fingers, and completed with moving the hand!
Always happy to se your videos the help me with my fencing and coaching. Hope you don't mind if a stranger has a chat with you if I happen to se you at Canadian nationals in two weeks..
Since Parry Four requires you to rotate your hand from palm up to palm down, just how do you avoid spilling your coffee, since, by rotating your hand, the cup ends up on its side?
I was taught that you need to parry forward but I don't believe this is merited all the time. When the fencer is closer than usual, parrying forward will make it more difficult for your tip to go around the opposing fencer's guard.
This is great! 😃 I never think of putting my hand forward while parrying.
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Awesome illustration. Thanks you so much.
French grip user in shambles..
You guys have helped out so much with my Kendo lol.
Sabre fencing has a lot of similarities.
this is a very creative way to practice parries, thanks!
Miles better than any fencing tips I've seen so far, good job
Worth mentioning that not everyone taught (at least back 'in the day'!) parry 4 as pronated at all. When I was first starting out I was taught to put the point on the target and then move the hand back and forth between the parry 4 line to parry 6 line while KEEPING the point in the same place. As you say, at MOST moving the thumb between 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock, but mostly keeping it basically at 12.
Some have suggested this is a difference between the older French or Italian schools, and Maestros, who taught 4 as supinated, versus the Russians who tend to teach rolling the thumb over and pronating.
Same! My coach always told me the point should stay at the target area so I could extend right off the parry. Although when I started out, my parry fours were so heavy and downward that I always hit off target. Making the parrys cleaner saves a lot of energy too.
Which was is "right" though? Which is the best way to parry?
When you move your wrist, it goes against using your fingers to control the blade, which is emphasized by East European fencers. On the other hand, by moving the tip, I think it makes it harder for you to get the tip on target. I'm guessing a mixture of both is best.
Looks like a fun challenge!
As someone that wants to really work on defence this is something that will help me.
Yay my favorite fencers posted!
This is an amazing video
Thanks Joe, Eli; I now can see that most of my parries are bad haha! Really useful stuff :)
Yo dude! How’s it going!?
very cool idea, I'll start practicing with cups more often :D
I love this!!!
awsome !!
i gonna challenge it wz my daughter! great video!
really helped me to teach her!Thank you indeed!
I might be confused or using different terms/convention but... Isn't that parry in 5? Apparently parry 4 is parry in high inside line while the palm is supinated while parry 5 covers the same line but the palm is pronated. Apparently from what I understand, the parry here is parry 5. I might be mistaken at what pronation and supination are
I learned it similar to this en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parry_(fencing) where 5 is primarily used in Sabre to defend against a cut to the head, however I’ve also seen diagrams illustrating what you’re saying.
Very helpful!
thanks
This seems way less about the rotation than the direction of your hand and arm. I feel like the angle of the hand being variable let's us set up for a different angled riposte, or a riposte with opposition or something.
Anyways, love the content as always! Love what y'all do :)
This is actually something we’ve talked about before. We oppose rotation of the wrist during a riposte, unless you’re doing epee where you need to push the blade WHILE you angle. In foil, we prefer leaving the thumb on top (12 o’clock) because it’s possible to re-angle the blade to any target without rotating the fingers. You rely on the thumb and index finger to manipulate the point.
If you’re going for a strong parry into opposition like you’re more likely to see in epee, then creating new angles with wrist during the parry makes a lot more sense.
If you hold the weapon in front of you and rotate your hand you’ll see that just by doing that the tip moves a considerable amount. If you can compensate for this additional movement then by all means go for it, but if you can’t then we highly recommend leaving the thumb on top during the riposte
@@s-class8871 Good stuff to consider! I'll need to see what works best for me, but I have a ton of muscle memory for more rotation.
Using the mug with water was a brilliant way to demonstrate!
Can you pls teach how to do flick
For sure! We’ll work on it for our next video
You can watch Race Imborden’s video on it, which is pretty much how you should be flicking.
@@s-class8871 uh oh
thanks for this very innovative way to demonstrate this concept
I Really want to learn fencing so sad here in my country it's not popular And also the fencing school is far away from my hometown it seems like I can only learn by watching on RUclips