Marvel should have taken a 5 year break or at least a slowdown of releases after Endgame, instead of releasing too many low quality programs causing oversaturation of the super hero film/tvshow market. I had a Big Mac today, the first in a year it was fresh and flipping delicious but if I ate Big Macs every other day it would not be special anymore and if I got a cold or uncooked Big Mac it would be even less special and end up stopping me from having a Big Mac altogether, with very few exceptions Marvel has been stuffing cold Big Macs in our mouths since Endgame nothing in this video looks like the hot Big Mac I had today so I'll pass.
I love Anthony Mackie, but the whole point behind Captain America was that he has Superpowers… It is tough for me to comprehend how they can justify him fighting super powered people with just Iron Man Wings… Marvel is great, but they struggle with the inconsistency of their heroes in battle. He cannot take a punch from the Red Hulk with no powers or a full Iron Man like suit in which case he would be… War Machine… It reminds me of when Hulk punched Thor in the face in The Avengers and he was fine, but Loki stabbed him with a knife…
Exactly I dont get it either. How does a human with no powers can hold a fight with red hulk? It's like putting Hawkeye or black widow against hulk ? Hmm I wounder who would win in a fight .. cmon doesn't make sense at all. I believe that Sebastian would've been a better candidate to take over as captain America. Atleast he has super strength and a medal arm. He would've been a better cap. This movie will flop guaranteed
Steve Rogers, the first Captain America, picked Falcon Sam Wilson to take up the shield because Rogers believed that Wilson shared the same values of courage, justice, and integrity. Regarding Falcon's role as Captain America: "Well, that was a temporary thing,” said Lee. “It’s not as though we’ve lost Captain America. I promise you he’ll be back.” - Stan Lee Comments On The Falcon Taking Over For Captain America, March 12, 2015. As you can see, skin color has nothing to do with it. Neither was this story recently concocted by Hollywood.
@@JackMarley-kf5zh nah he's right. In every movie Hulk gets mad and runs away. He needs to destroy a city, throw a car to the moon because he stubbed his toe, he has never unleashed his anger it always gets calmed down somehow. I want the Avengers to have to just aim the Hulk once in awhile and hope for the best.
They seem to have at least learned their lesson... they're bringing the Russo brothers back. That shows at least they're trying. But you seem to have already made up your mind.
Well without Henry at the helm for Superman, I nor my family will be going. Batman as well. The orignal DC cast needed to stay. Sometimes you don’t need to change things.
I totally agree with you and many more fans are still upset that Henry Cavill was removed from being Superman as well as Ben Affleck as Batman. Now Jason Momosa doesn't want to continue as Aquaman. I do hope that Green Lantern will be in Justice League II, either Hal Jordan or the younger Michael B Jordan.
sigh, a woman as silver surfer doesn't work as the original silver surfer became thus to protect his family not to run out on them. this is why i can't watch marvel movies anymore. i used to collect comics way back when but the film(s) are deviating so far from the stories that' it' just makes me sad.
The Falcon - HAS NO SUPER POWERS. No one can carry the sheild but a very modified human. Now it gets flopped around like a foam cutout. I know it's a cartoon. But even that must follow the story line and character development. These idiots keep tyring to "produce their vision of" what they consider to be a product, as apposed to telling a story through film. The second you let CEO's and their ilk run a show, or some wanna-b isolated puffed up self loving fool direct and coppy and edit an entire production, then doom is what results. But these idiots are more interested in money launering than creating. The problem with that ideal is that eventually the money stream dries up as the product becomes unpalletable. In other words, narcissistic and psychopathic tendencies destroy everything in the wake of their wants. Eat the rich, there is no cake. They ate it all and now they want the crumbs.
Yeah, too bad Huge Western " Horizon" bombed and went to stream in less than a month, while " Goofball" superhero flick Deadpool and Wolverine made over 1.2 Billion dollars. Westerns may have a life on streaming though, because the one by Peter Berg on Netflix looks tremendous.
So Sam Wilson has zero special anilities and is basically just a soldier that learned how to use a flight suit - he is our new Captain America because?...oh yeah Black and Silver Surfer is now a girl because? oh yeah, agendas Someone do a count, I'm pretty sure there are more females in these movies then males at this point - at what point did fans vote that they were cool with their favorite hero's being replaced? I just don't get why we aren't capable of telling new stories with POC as the main characters. Why don't we bring back Isis? (The female superhero not the terror group)
Are they really going to ruin my chance to see Norrin Radd, the Silver Surfer portrayed on the big screen correctly this time, by replacing him with a girl for no reason? Why??? 😠😡
this is soooo disappointing. Silver Surfer has so much potential for an epic movie and they keep fucking it up. He needs his own movie! And WHYYYYYY A GIRL???? I wanted to see SILVER SURFER.
Make a freaking Punisher movie with John Bernthal . Stop with the "woke wave" of fringe characters who don't do much except cameo, or don't have significant roles. Mackey as winged Capt. America has been sigh worthy. Just tell one good character chain and build you know like all the success that has happened with Wolverine, Superman, Spiderman, Batman, and many others. the undirected bombardment of over casting and adding in again fringe (until further use), makes me think all this stuff is just hype, but feels like having A.D.D. Like a child telling a story that leads into a dozen different stories that go into a dozen more different directions, and have no focus, and just want us asking, "where is this actually going?" and has no pay off. Great casting for dumb stories, that are non-sense and leave little chance of a sequel/continuation> Disney's evil to enamor us with BS has no bounds. This has been a preview of movies that i don't care to see because they seem just blah, despite casting.
THE NEW SUPER GIRL SHOULD ßE RENAMED SUPERWOMAN IF SHE IS GOING TO BE IN A MOVIE HER ADU,T COUSIN SUPERMAN. AS SUPERWOMAN, THE RENAME WOULD SIGNAL EXPERIENCES OF INTELLIGENCE 🥰🥰🤩🤩😎
Don't care! Captain Tech can be an ensemble member but CANNOT take on Red Hulk without super powered humans/gods. It's just stupid. They will have to ridiculously nerf red hulk or treat Captain Tech like he has had super serum when he hasn't 👎
I still think that thunderbolt is not the name of the group it's just got that name for the film because this is that group just without Theodore rose so won't be thunderbolt`s group.
Anthony Mackie is as bad an actor as Anthony Driver...horrible picks for anything and the new Capt America is already doomed with bad acting and bad story line.
lol its not introducing adamantium because it was used by the TVA tylor for dead pools swords in deadpool and wolverine so it was already introduced into the MCU this year
He said MCU Universe so the TVA can use it without it being in universe, Also if your counting deadpools swords when actual wolverine just had his ADAMANTIUM BONES used as a series of wepons, then all the down films predate even that???
I'm dieing to know if they are going to put him in the steroid machine. Fans were wanting a bigger Captain America and built more like Thor. But it doesn't look like it.
It's very obviously Tom Cruise with glowing eyes in the thumbnail, I did not hear his name mentioned, us he in an upcoming mcu or other studio SUPER H MOVIE?
What i realy meant to say was that both brett and sean should have pinned each other that way both guys still would have looked strong but because both guys pinned each other that means the title would have to be vaciated then have a battle royal on raw Where sean would come out on top by eliminating brett and taker,thats my Real opinion.
First off. No one knows who that kid is playing he-man. Secondly- I'm super tired off actors playing different roles within the MCU. It's lazy. Thirdly- the sliver surfer, as a girl, is a storyline in the comics waaaayyyy after the fantastic 4, Galactus and the silver surfer were introduced. So it's a dumb way to bring those characters into the MCU. Why do studios, directors and writers have to deviate from source material? If I were any of those entities, I would care about appeasing the comic fans first, than to bring new eyes into it
There are too many characters with super powers. It's watered down. It seems like everyone on planet earth will have a super power. Also, tired of the same cliche' of the villain coming back from the dead...
We WANT BLADE! On that note, LISTEN UP, DISNEY; I want a conclusion of the more than a decade-old easter egg in Captain America: The 1st Avenger. The Human Torch was shown, and its creator, Phineas Horton, was credited with its construction . Whatever happened to that hint of something more? By the way, Horton is the father of the 'living' Human Torch's girlfriend and future herald of Galactus. Please tell me his character will be in the F4's movie in some iteration. I initially thought the security guard [Harry Dean Stanton] was a backdoor to this Horton in Avengers Movie. Apparently, it was by happenstance. Still, Horton is the true starting point for the modern MCU, and the original Human Torch has many possibilities, which could be showcased in "What If?"
I truly do not want to watch any of these films.
Then😅 don't watch.
Why watch the video if you arent interested in any of the movies? Personally, I think most look pretty damn good..
Speak for yourself,I will watch everything 😂
Cool. No one cares
Marvel should have taken a 5 year break or at least a slowdown of releases after Endgame, instead of releasing too many low quality programs causing oversaturation of the super hero film/tvshow market. I had a Big Mac today, the first in a year it was fresh and flipping delicious but if I ate Big Macs every other day it would not be special anymore and if I got a cold or uncooked Big Mac it would be even less special and end up stopping me from having a Big Mac altogether, with very few exceptions Marvel has been stuffing cold Big Macs in our mouths since Endgame nothing in this video looks like the hot Big Mac I had today so I'll pass.
I wish they’d do a Punisher movie with Bernthal.
His show is coming back after Dare Devil..
Thanks, I wasn’t aware. That’s great news.
@@tomahawk5118 Yeah Im also excited, was one of the better shows of the group..
He’s also going to be in Daredevil
Yes, one that makes Bruce Wayne quezzy
I love Anthony Mackie, but the whole point behind Captain America was that he has Superpowers… It is tough for me to comprehend how they can justify him fighting super powered people with just Iron Man Wings… Marvel is great, but they struggle with the inconsistency of their heroes in battle. He cannot take a punch from the Red Hulk with no powers or a full Iron Man like suit in which case he would be… War Machine… It reminds me of when Hulk punched Thor in the face in The Avengers and he was fine, but Loki stabbed him with a knife…
Exactly I dont get it either. How does a human with no powers can hold a fight with red hulk? It's like putting Hawkeye or black widow against hulk ? Hmm I wounder who would win in a fight .. cmon doesn't make sense at all. I believe that Sebastian would've been a better candidate to take over as captain America. Atleast he has super strength and a medal arm. He would've been a better cap. This movie will flop guaranteed
Read the comics it’s simple falcon did hold the title of captain America until capt came back!
I'm Batman
do you not read the comics?
Black captain America.
Red Hulk.
White panther……?
Nah.😂
Steve Rogers, the first Captain America, picked Falcon Sam Wilson to take up the shield because Rogers believed that Wilson shared the same values of courage, justice, and integrity.
Regarding Falcon's role as Captain America: "Well, that was a temporary thing,” said Lee. “It’s not as though we’ve lost Captain America. I promise you he’ll be back.” - Stan Lee Comments On The Falcon Taking Over For Captain America, March 12, 2015.
As you can see, skin color has nothing to do with it. Neither was this story recently concocted by Hollywood.
Does Sam have the super soldier serum? Cause he isn't cap without it ..
NO he ISN'T!
Marvel needs to make Iron Fist and Power Man in gritty '70s "Shaft" style setting with soundtrack by Silk Sonic.
Q: How can so many decades of already written stories and developed characters flop so hard?
A: Wokecuckery isfailure predestined. Always.
Well said!
They need to do a hulk movie showcasing his true powers!
World war Hulk. Yes please
I dont understand havent you watched Hulk movies? Are you from Mars?
@@JackMarley-kf5zh nah he's right. In every movie Hulk gets mad and runs away. He needs to destroy a city, throw a car to the moon because he stubbed his toe, he has never unleashed his anger it always gets calmed down somehow. I want the Avengers to have to just aim the Hulk once in awhile and hope for the best.
Yeah but not with ruffalo
@@JackMarley-kf5zh Read the comics and reevaluate your opinion
Here's my prediction: All of these films are going to flop. Hollywood writers are just bad.
Tell me you're a hater without telling me you're a hater. SMH 🤦🏾
They seem to have at least learned their lesson... they're bringing the Russo brothers back. That shows at least they're trying. But you seem to have already made up your mind.
100% notwithstanding wolverinedeadpool I can't see them doing anything good
@DJ_Stymulus tell us your a lunatic woke type with that comment!
You’re right. The DCEU has been absolute TRASH!
These all look terrible. Disney needs to sell Marvel and quit ruining it.
They need to bring back the steroid day. When guys were jacked and looked like they could kick some real ass.
Well without Henry at the helm for Superman, I nor my family will be going. Batman as well. The orignal DC cast needed to stay. Sometimes you don’t need to change things.
Henry was perfect
I totally agree with you and many more fans are still upset that Henry Cavill was removed from being Superman as well as Ben Affleck as Batman. Now Jason Momosa doesn't want to continue as Aquaman. I do hope that Green Lantern will be in Justice League II, either Hal Jordan or the younger Michael B Jordan.
And a new Flash which is needed.
And add Green Arrow and Martian Manhunter.
Hawkman and 😊Hawkgirl
sigh, a woman as silver surfer doesn't work as the original silver surfer became thus to protect his family not to run out on them. this is why i can't watch marvel movies anymore. i used to collect comics way back when but the film(s) are deviating so far from the stories that' it' just makes me sad.
All of these will more than likely be 🚮 I’m still fuming about how they didn’t keep their word to Henry.
Hey I love the original He-Man movie
Marvel is almost at Star Wars level of sh*t.
The Falcon - HAS NO SUPER POWERS. No one can carry the sheild but a very modified human. Now it gets flopped around like a foam cutout. I know it's a cartoon. But even that must follow the story line and character development. These idiots keep tyring to "produce their vision of" what they consider to be a product, as apposed to telling a story through film. The second you let CEO's and their ilk run a show, or some wanna-b isolated puffed up self loving fool direct and coppy and edit an entire production, then doom is what results.
But these idiots are more interested in money launering than creating. The problem with that ideal is that eventually the money stream dries up as the product becomes unpalletable. In other words, narcissistic and psychopathic tendencies destroy everything in the wake of their wants.
Eat the rich, there is no cake. They ate it all and now they want the crumbs.
Unpalatable! If you're gonna write a short story with a load of unnecessary 15 letter words then spelling matters!
Dc really does need an amazing Superman movie if they ever want to be top tier relevant. I liked The Man of Steel idk why it wasn’t bigger.
I love Henry Cavil playing Superman.
TRUE ...Superman being (in my opinion) the best of DC hasn't really had a movie on the level that Batman has
Superhero movies are done. It's time to make Western Movies great again...
Yeah, too bad Huge Western " Horizon" bombed and went to stream in less than a month, while " Goofball" superhero flick Deadpool and Wolverine made over 1.2 Billion dollars. Westerns may have a life on streaming though, because the one by Peter Berg on Netflix looks tremendous.
Not spending 16 bucs to watch any of these movies.
Stop making the same movies over and over again with different actors! Try a new story line.
Bunch of flopperoonies
Masters of the Universe already sounding like another POS, childhood destroying movie…
I'm sure She-Ra will have to save He-Man 😒
Thanks for the update on Fantastic Four. For a moment I was excited to see the movie, but that cast ensures another won’t see MCU flick for me.
I never liked fantastic four movies they are only useful in the game
So Sam Wilson has zero special anilities and is basically just a soldier that learned how to use a flight suit - he is our new Captain America because?...oh yeah Black
and Silver Surfer is now a girl because? oh yeah, agendas
Someone do a count, I'm pretty sure there are more females in these movies then males at this point - at what point did fans vote that they were cool with their favorite hero's being replaced? I just don't get why we aren't capable of telling new stories with POC as the main characters. Why don't we bring back Isis? (The female superhero not the terror group)
yeah but he was captain america in the comics.
He's basically Batman without money.
@@nickcaputo7973and itsucked then too
and you have a Tron Legacy icon, which pretty much had it's own agenda's, featured a Woke character, and a overpowered female character.
That would be cool that a Logan did a cameo in Captain America brave New world movie
This fantastic four will be a blockbuster compared to the past reboot
Captain Falcon? Maybe Mike Tyson will play the Hulk or Jennifer Lawrence will play Ironman ILL PASS THANKS
Captain Falcon ko Captain Ostrich Ni 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
James Gunn needs to retire All the movies came out bad
You know your including the 3guardian films that returned 5 time what was put in, not sure how that's counted as a problem or failure.
Who replaced Iron Man?
Great job DC and James Gunn, make a move with a bunch of characters no one gives a shit about!
I fucking hate em they ruined it for me
yeah Zemo kind of legitimized the Thunderbolts in the comics
Julie-Louie 😂 Dryfus
Let's hope she don't dance..
Are they really going to ruin my chance to see Norrin Radd, the Silver Surfer portrayed on the big screen correctly this time, by replacing him with a girl for no reason? Why???
😠😡
this is soooo disappointing. Silver Surfer has so much potential for an epic movie and they keep fucking it up. He needs his own movie! And WHYYYYYY A GIRL???? I wanted to see SILVER SURFER.
Honestly after watching this I could care even less now they all look terrible 😞
Spider-Man affordable definitely be a Blockbuster movie
Super hero films are played out….zero interest in any of them…..
They woke them to pieces!!
Make a freaking Punisher movie with John Bernthal . Stop with the "woke wave" of fringe characters who don't do much except cameo, or don't have significant roles. Mackey as winged Capt. America has been sigh worthy. Just tell one good character chain and build you know like all the success that has happened with Wolverine, Superman, Spiderman, Batman, and many others. the undirected bombardment of over casting and adding in again fringe (until further use), makes me think all this stuff is just hype, but feels like having A.D.D. Like a child telling a story that leads into a dozen different stories that go into a dozen more different directions, and have no focus, and just want us asking, "where is this actually going?" and has no pay off. Great casting for dumb stories, that are non-sense and leave little chance of a sequel/continuation> Disney's evil to enamor us with BS has no bounds. This has been a preview of movies that i don't care to see because they seem just blah, despite casting.
Who is the being in the promo picture
Batman 2 movie will flop
Man are you guys getting boring
Recycling the same crap over and over with minor changes, gtfoh!
So did Sam get the super soldier serum to ? Bc I don’t remember that but I never really followed Falcon or Cap before the movies.
NO he is NOT Cap.
THE NEW SUPER GIRL SHOULD ßE RENAMED SUPERWOMAN IF SHE IS GOING TO BE IN A MOVIE HER ADU,T COUSIN SUPERMAN. AS SUPERWOMAN, THE RENAME WOULD SIGNAL EXPERIENCES OF INTELLIGENCE 🥰🥰🤩🤩😎
I really want to see what snyder verse was going to be about... hes been making hits on netflix with minimum investment.
DC please make Black Adam vs Superman!!!!
If they don’t reboot Task Master, to the absolute badass HE is!!
Then I’m out of the dumpster fire called the M”She”U !!!
Nobody wants to see these woke trash movies!
Thunderbolts are Anti-heroes not Villains!
Dc needs to take some pointers from marvel on making movies,they pretty good at tv series..
Bro, Kraven was friggin good. Still do not see how it flopped.
lol
Superman looks like a Winner
Daredevil born again looks amazing but honestly what they should do is make a movie starring Spider-Man not only Spider-Man but Spider-Man 2099
Why don't they do a beginning of super girl's origin. Like super man's origins. And make that into her identity and the reson why she came to earth.
AM is a fine actor and played Sam very well but his character is not as charismatic as most others and it’s not a film we all want to see.
AM is box office poison.
The new cap does look
Funny as hell I would never
Spend money on that stuff/shit ¡!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Well thats my cap, a cap that can fly and uses the shield and is black. A New World Order
Really the Serpent Society? Where all the villains are based as snakes? Give me a break
Creature commandos?! Crappy commandos 😂❤ fantastic four?! Craptastic crap 😂❤ batman?! Crapman😂
when is Image coming out with a new Spawn movie?
He should not be in a movie that with Christopher Nolan it should be Christian Bale in Batman returns movie
I love the 1984 film of Supergirl movie
For the haters of Sam stepping up, it follows one of the 50 years worth story arcs.
I don't care if black. I just want to see him built like Thor or the comic book.
Don't care! Captain Tech can be an ensemble member but CANNOT take on Red Hulk without super powered humans/gods. It's just stupid. They will have to ridiculously nerf red hulk or treat Captain Tech like he has had super serum when he hasn't 👎
Creature Commamdos is bomb.
Deadpool & Wolverine was an MCU movie, so Adamantium already technically appeared.
I doubt I’ll like Gunn’s Superman and DC universe. Zack perfected it, I wish he’d been able to finish it.
No World War HULK??? UGH
I still think that thunderbolt is not the name of the group it's just got that name for the film because this is that group just without Theodore rose so won't be thunderbolt`s group.
I’ll watch all of them. Even if they have low ratings. I just lower my expectations.😊
I am not happy with the direction the marvel or dc universe super heroes choices
How many of them will be DEI hired superheroes?
Anthony Mackie is as bad an actor as Anthony Driver...horrible picks for anything and the new Capt America is already doomed with bad acting and bad story line.
Wow another superman origin story JC when will it stop it's like that is the only story they know how to write same ole supes😥😥
Wow every one of these movies look like 💩. It's time to stop making superhero movies.
Nice try diddy
Correction: it's time for Marvel to stop making superhero movies😂
Fantastic 4 again? I think a new one needs a cameo first in another movie instead of giving them just another reboot movie again. 😮
I'm all in for Galactus.
MCU 2025? Nah. I will pass.
What's on the thumbnail?
lol its not introducing adamantium because it was used by the TVA tylor for dead pools swords in deadpool and wolverine so it was already introduced into the MCU this year
He said MCU Universe so the TVA can use it without it being in universe, Also if your counting deadpools swords when actual wolverine just had his ADAMANTIUM BONES used as a series of wepons, then all the down films predate even that???
They need to make a MR Monster movie
So, who is in the thumbnail?
Damn how bad has the writers destroyed the marvel world.
I'm dieing to know if they are going to put him in the steroid machine. Fans were wanting a bigger Captain America and built more like Thor. But it doesn't look like it.
The new Captain America looks like an extreme joke. I would never watch this. It’s ridiculous.
You have to watch it…for the end credits scenes😂
Disney is ruing the great comic's I grew up with. It's sad!
Why? i kinda like it. A bit of differentiation makes it cool don't u think?
I agree!! And there is only one captain America.
@@epictexasfishing6787 .Yeah,Walt Disney must be rolling over in his hood!
Why keep remaking the same movies every 10 years with new people as the characters? Lets move forward and introduce new heros and villains.
why put womans in heroes man places? i love girls but they have 0 carisma except few like black widow
Kraven fucking ROCKED!!!
It's very obviously Tom Cruise with glowing eyes in the thumbnail, I did not hear his name mentioned, us he in an upcoming mcu or other studio SUPER H MOVIE?
Dan Steven’s should have been Dr Doom
What i realy meant to say was that both brett and sean should have pinned each other that way both guys still would have looked strong but because both guys pinned each other that means the title would have to be vaciated then have a battle royal on raw Where sean would come out on top by eliminating brett and taker,thats my Real opinion.
Evil team ups suck I just had to say it 😂
The DEI Capt America will 100% Flop
NON will be a block buster.
too bad Zemo isn't part of Thunderbolts, definitely a mistake
When checking his work, Thunderbolts is listed.....May be an end credit scene or maybe a lot more.
@@bronzetiger6360 yeah I saw a similar hint somewhere. ruclips.net/video/5nEzCv5u1O8/видео.html
Thank you . ( 2025 / Jan / 04 )
More flops. They shouldve gone with the Brubaker script amd made Bucky the captain.
I want to see this movie,any comic book movie,have to be better than madam web,that movie sucks
NOTHING DC WILL BE GOOD. NOTHING.
Why not?
Because its WOKE garbage!!= Nuff said!!
First off. No one knows who that kid is playing he-man.
Secondly- I'm super tired off actors playing different roles within the MCU. It's lazy.
Thirdly- the sliver surfer, as a girl, is a storyline in the comics waaaayyyy after the fantastic 4, Galactus and the silver surfer were introduced. So it's a dumb way to bring those characters into the MCU.
Why do studios, directors and writers have to deviate from source material? If I were any of those entities, I would care about appeasing the comic fans first, than to bring new eyes into it
There are too many characters with super powers. It's watered down. It seems like everyone on planet earth will have a super power. Also, tired of the same cliche' of the villain coming back from the dead...
Yawn. Maybe Doomsday, but😴😴😴....
Every is avoiding THANOS. IJS
We WANT BLADE! On that note, LISTEN UP, DISNEY; I want a conclusion of the more than a decade-old easter egg in Captain America: The 1st Avenger. The Human Torch was shown, and its creator, Phineas Horton, was credited with its construction . Whatever happened to that hint of something more?
By the way, Horton is the father of the 'living' Human Torch's girlfriend and future herald of Galactus. Please tell me his character will be in the F4's movie in some iteration. I initially thought the security guard [Harry Dean Stanton] was a backdoor to this Horton in Avengers Movie. Apparently, it was by happenstance. Still, Horton is the true starting point for the modern MCU, and the original Human Torch has many possibilities, which could be showcased in "What If?"