The Feminist Paradox | Thisari Randunu | TEDxYouth@TWSDubaiWomen

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  • The feminist paradoxes are they truly an endless loop of things that will never be perfectly right? Or is there a deep down hidden solution to every contradiction.
    The Feminist Paradox -
    The feminist paradoxes are they truly an endless loop of things that will never be perfectly right? Or is there a deep down hidden solution to every contradiction. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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  • @kalekcenturian7667
    @kalekcenturian7667 6 лет назад +671

    Whenever I hear someone say that men and women should be treated as equals, I always want to ask: "in what?" Men and women are physiologically different. Their brains function differently. This means that, generally speaking, each gender has a tendency to excel in different fields and in different things.
    This isn't sexism. This is biology.
    Should I treat men and women BOTH with dignity and respect? Yes. Should I give men and women the same opportunities? Definitely. Do I believe that both sexes will perform the same tasks given to them, be they physical and/or psychological? Generally, no. But both should be allowed to equally try.
    I advocate equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes.

    • @scarlett5923
      @scarlett5923 5 лет назад +42

      Kalek Centurian
      This is a beautiful comment. Much respect.

    • @Angelinay-vw6dw
      @Angelinay-vw6dw 5 лет назад +22

      But the thing is- the reason is that they should be created with the same diligence and respect. Every human should be treated with the same mentality of equality. It seems that you don’t apprehend what things are at loss for the women of humanity; from murder, child brides, poverty, et cetera. That- if not implied often enough to you- is the definitive basis of feminism. The knowing of different biological states- although irrefutable; is in no way ever an excuse to contradict the contradiction of all of the grim things listed above. Feminism, is not a phantasm to be denied, simply because you are willing to accredit it being philosophically implausible. It has never been; nor is ensuing directly as an implication of bringing upon the same structure of everything. It is simply a supplication of a world in which all beings are treated at the same level, and allowed the same capacity of prosperity. An assumed given of any future humanity- but an assumed given that we have not yet reached.

    • @satyaveda7041
      @satyaveda7041 5 лет назад +14

      Exactly. That’s what feminism is all about which is inadequate in our society.

    • @user-fl5om9pz2j
      @user-fl5om9pz2j 4 года назад +1

      Kalek Centurian love you

    • @SuperB345T
      @SuperB345T 4 года назад +49

      @@Angelinay-vw6dw That is Egalitarianism, not Feminism. The name alone implies (women, first and foremost), which does not allow equality by nature.

  • @rgknowlton1
    @rgknowlton1 6 лет назад +29

    Why do feminists never complain about the gender gap in coal mines and steel mills?

  • @joshotey2967
    @joshotey2967 5 лет назад +561

    I had my wife once tell me that I was pretty good at cooking and cleaning, for a man. I ran to the bathroom and cried for two hours..

    • @pedrocastro1568
      @pedrocastro1568 5 лет назад +57

      Our pain is real... You are not alone

    • @JACK-OMARI
      @JACK-OMARI 4 года назад

      Y

    • @swatimohapatra8495
      @swatimohapatra8495 4 года назад +22

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @KevinM88TR11
      @KevinM88TR11 4 года назад +5

      Haha 😄

    • @jakdutra
      @jakdutra 4 года назад +3

      Just like the feminists Suffragettes, she might give you a White Feather hahaha (look it up on Wikipedia).
      obs: that was an ironical joke

  • @HOOOPER
    @HOOOPER 6 лет назад +438

    A paradox is something that cant be solved. these are not paradoxes.
    Boys and girls should be treated with respect to their different needs, not to be treated absolutely equally.

    • @lythist1849
      @lythist1849 6 лет назад +6

      HOOPER I think everyone deserves to be happy. Do you believe only girls deserve to be happy. Or only boys deserve to be happy. That’s the only question. Which one deserves to be happy more. Your saying that one deserves to be more happy then the other. But she and me believe that all people deserve to be happy. Sexism is one person believing the one certain gender deserves to be happy. Feminism believes that all genders deserve to be happy. Which one do you choose? It really doesn’t matter the name it just matters what you believe. When it comes down to it you either choose or don’t choose be happy or don’t be happy finished or unfinished. Take your pick. There is no wrong answer to the paradox.

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 6 лет назад +24

      DJMangafIMK
      Here are some Feminists trying to control what others say or listen to in their OWN group. They often try to shut down event where men get together to talk about male problems. They also make False Accusations, suppress Freedom of Expression, yet FORCE others to listen to their own Speech - thus heavily rooted in hypocrisy & the Domination Game.
      That is FASCISM, and extremely Authoritarian, not Equality - is it not?
      You say "not all Feminists"? Well, i dont believe you, becausr they don't seem to call it out.
      So ........is it really true that Feminists want Equality? Do you see why I don't trust them?

    • @lythist1849
      @lythist1849 6 лет назад +1

      Platypus Paws that’s the girls side of feminism. Boys have a side of feminism but I have a side of feminism that doesn’t take sides. Also when this guy said that they need to be treated for different needs but he doesn’t know that certain people need different needs. Some girls need video games to survive and some guys need the color pink to survive but it doesn’t really matter as long as they are happy. I don’t know I think people are making things a bit complicated. Anyways goodbye.

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 6 лет назад +5

      DJMangafIMK
      Goodbye then.

    • @txariredpanda7269
      @txariredpanda7269 6 лет назад

      DJMangafiMK hi! i just want to say that, for starters, no one needs those things to survive. they may like those things, and they have the rigth to do so. I think that if someone defends equality they should call themselves equalitarian because femnism nowadays is completly messed up by radicals. sorry for my inglish. I will stand for my opinion no mather wath, so i won't be back here for more comments. thank you for your time. goodbye

  • @eaofdeath187
    @eaofdeath187 6 лет назад +508

    "You are human or sexist" way to dehumanize those that disagree with you.

    • @isaacrothman86
      @isaacrothman86 6 лет назад +47

      She lost me there.
      "It doesn't matter to what degree"
      I may not adore my mother in law but her choosing male toys for my son or expecting the doctor to be a man does not mean she isn't human. Quite the opposite.
      This girl is despicable, but human.
      I can't learn from someone that dehumanizes everyday people. I am only human.

    • @joeheller7581
      @joeheller7581 6 лет назад

      People will have opinions, disagree with things, it does not imply that there is no ‘lesser of the evils’. It’s not dehumanising, if you’re only a human and using it as an excuse to be below par then you’re calling it onto yourself soz

    • @jareda.1353
      @jareda.1353 5 лет назад +3

      It's because everyone is sexist, and feminists are commonly on the same level as the vast majority of people.

    • @billpetersen9535
      @billpetersen9535 5 лет назад +9

      That was where she went off the rails.

    • @The666Steppenwolf
      @The666Steppenwolf 4 года назад +1

      It's a personally logical and necessary reasoning:
      We either think at both sexes or we are sexists.
      Inexcapable, factual logic .
      Duh

  • @SociallyTriggered
    @SociallyTriggered 6 лет назад +199

    "Choice" is the problem with feminism because feminists try to remove choice from both men and women. Feminists didn't want grid girls, but never asked if grid girls wanted to be grid girls. Feminists want more women in STEM but never asked if women want to be in STEM. They can't accept that men and women are different and make different choices. Equality/feminism works against women's interests.

    • @AM-we8hj
      @AM-we8hj 4 года назад +19

      That, my friend, that is very important to raise up. A lot of women go against the movement because of that. People do what they want with their lives.

    • @arkjustdoit890
      @arkjustdoit890 3 года назад +13

      True. As *it's Equality of Opportunities that can be attained Not Equality of Outcome ( Equity). It's proved Scientifically, Naturally & Evolutionary.*
      *There are many Research papers & videos which proved more Egalitarian ( more equal opportunities & choices) are given, more amount of differences are been created between men & women.*

    • @flaviodasilva1136
      @flaviodasilva1136 3 года назад +10

      @@arkjustdoit890 Sweden is perfect proof for that.

    • @arkjustdoit890
      @arkjustdoit890 3 года назад +7

      @@flaviodasilva1136 *Yeah, Sweden And some of the Scandinavian countries.*

    • @SociallyTriggered
      @SociallyTriggered 3 года назад +8

      @@arkjustdoit890 I agree with most of what you wrote but equality of opportunity isn't good either. We should focus on creating opportunities and not whether they are provided equally to all. There will always be things which prevent this type of equality: location, merit, gender, personality, appearance, height, age, experience, culture, family connection, etc. When we try to control the opportunity process we actually end up limiting the opportunities. It is better just to let the market act freely. When Trump removed tons of government regulations it resulted in a huge boon for the economy and every group ended up having record low unemployment numbers.

  • @mohankrishna8948
    @mohankrishna8948 2 года назад +82

    “Men and women are two wings of a bird, and it is not possible for a bird to fly on only one wing”
    ~ Swami Vivekananda

  • @debasishraychawdhuri
    @debasishraychawdhuri 6 лет назад +337

    If men can lift weight and women can too, why must we differentiate? please have gender-neutral common weightlifting event at the Olympics, we will see how many medals women get. If you ignore real differences, you would be in trouble.

    • @AlexJibb92
      @AlexJibb92 6 лет назад +7

      Yeah but I'd rather they address the everyday rather than which gender has the best swim team

    • @AlexJibb92
      @AlexJibb92 6 лет назад +19

      People who start troll accounts are pretty pathetic, and rather disposable too as not many would miss those types. I mean disposable sure, but pathetic? I mean we're gonna have eugenics and artificial wombs soon which used to seem dystopian and sad to me but when I think about it that would make things more equal. Since society is very vane and superficial now too that's where a lot of value would congregate

    • @chibigaming1860
      @chibigaming1860 6 лет назад +12

      flower power haha you weak troll

    • @debrawehrly9031
      @debrawehrly9031 5 лет назад +14

      Equality does not necessarily mean being the same. Equality in freedom and in opportunities and rights. Of course there are difference and inequalities between the sexes but there are also inequality among people of the same gender and race. We are all unequally equal.

    • @MrALenCar321
      @MrALenCar321 5 лет назад +5

      @@florzinnha well said!! when someone pumps and dumps you better say that to his face.

  • @pedrocastro1568
    @pedrocastro1568 5 лет назад +166

    She forgot the greatest paradox. How can you treat equally things that are different?

    • @memuxa
      @memuxa 4 года назад +16

      Thats the thing. Thats why feminism wants EQUITY and not EQUALTY. Because we are different. I guess you dont really know the difference between them!! Women can NOT be treated the same way as men and men can not be treated the same way as women!!! thats why we are looking for E Q U I T Y!! pls read the difference between both words!!

    • @shantelleschimpf1386
      @shantelleschimpf1386 4 года назад +6

      I think she’s talking about giving people of any gender choice. If they don’t wanna be equal or if they do we need to compromise to give people their right to choose

    • @shantelleschimpf1386
      @shantelleschimpf1386 4 года назад +4

      I think she’s talking about giving people of any gender choice. If they don’t wanna be equal or if they do we need to compromise to give people their right to choose

    • @memuxa
      @memuxa 4 года назад +2

      @@beyblade2377 ???? who said that i wanted to treat men equally???? I think we all should be treated in equity !! bc we all come from different backgrounds, we have different possibilities, habilities, etc. And again, thats why feminism wants equity!!!! I dont really understand ur question

    • @shantelleschimpf1386
      @shantelleschimpf1386 4 года назад +6

      Giving people equal choice? Equal opportunities?

  • @Oracleofcrows
    @Oracleofcrows 4 года назад +221

    I open and hold doors for everybody because it's polite.

    • @gbeach85
      @gbeach85 3 года назад +5

      Same. Men, women, kids. It’s just to be kind.

    • @gbeach85
      @gbeach85 3 года назад

      Great name btw.

    • @Fernandez218
      @Fernandez218 2 года назад

      i let all people equally open the door for themselves after i pass through it so i can give them the choice to open it themselves

    • @apriorianvideos9829
      @apriorianvideos9829 2 года назад

      I only open doors for men because it is demeaning for a girl to have a man open the door for them.

    • @anime108amv2
      @anime108amv2 Год назад

      Bro even back in the day men used to open the door for everyone and most men do it till this day including women. its as you said "the polite thing to do" its sad that such kind acts are seen as something "sexist" by the sheep who follow blindingly without finding the truth for themselves

  • @yagoa
    @yagoa 6 лет назад +252

    Start with calling yourself a humanist if you really care...

    • @herewego7949
      @herewego7949 4 года назад +18

      start with changing the term mankind if you really care

    • @herewego7949
      @herewego7949 4 года назад +9

      why change a term generations have been running on, how is that even practical to implement. just because it has the term fem?

    • @herewego7949
      @herewego7949 4 года назад +12

      and let me educate you. feminism was named such because initially a bunch of women started to fight for rights of blacks and other groups of underprivileged and men were at large against it or didn't wanted to get involved. so the term became feminism. if your male ancestors would have bothered with the support the name would have been something else. thankyou

    • @yagoa
      @yagoa 4 года назад +18

      @@herewego7949 So the steady decline of people calling themselves feminists in the west is the indication that it is a great term?
      You want to change society by being inflexible?
      Voting used to be linked to the draft, but I guess women are too privileged to die in the wars they are more probable as leaders to start.

    • @herewego7949
      @herewego7949 4 года назад +12

      @@yagoa let's rephrase that shall we. women weren't ALLOWED to participate in war. educate yourself.

  • @Jianju69
    @Jianju69 6 лет назад +135

    "Why *must* women wear makeup..." Wrong. Who is saying they "must"? Nobody, save perhaps for judgmental women.

    • @DarqIce
      @DarqIce 6 лет назад +5

      True. If done subtly (which is how it should be), most men usually can't even tell. Or rather, we don't tend to notice it, much less think about it either way. Women do. Especially if the woman looks good or - god forbid - better.... At any rate, practically speaking women in this day and age no longer have a choice to not wear makeup in public. Not without some kind of negative consequence.
      Although, the point here really is: if women "must" wear, then men "must not"... In a world free of sexism, everyone (women AND men) COULD use makeup to alter their looks just enough to feel more confident or just plain photogenic, whatever your personal reason for it...
      A lot of men that have marks, zits or any kind of other bruises or spots that affect their confidence would at least get a chance to level the field with a touch of makeup.... But we don't even think about it, much less have the balls to do it.. Because, who would spot it and call us out on it? Women--- Wait, lemme rephrase that: insecure people of both genders.

    • @whoreallycares2368
      @whoreallycares2368 6 лет назад +12

      They want the privilege that make up and being pretty provides, but they don’t want the responsibility of facing the world without a mask.
      Feminists, liberals RRRREEEEEE!

    • @rugilearstikaityte4420
      @rugilearstikaityte4420 6 лет назад +4

      I never in my life wore makeup and yet no one ever complained. Besides,makeup is not only used to conceal inperfections,but also as a self-expression.

    • @b.kanishkaguluwita1583
      @b.kanishkaguluwita1583 6 лет назад +5

      Based on my little knowledge on make-up, I might add another dimension to the 'self-expression' notion. Make up is also used to exercise power dynamics, often in the form of a distraction or at times to dominate certain situations or people.

    • @puttputt524
      @puttputt524 6 лет назад +4

      Jianju69 it’s super OBVIOUS. Women wear makeup to compete with other women.
      It’s the same as when men display macho bravado. Those who aren’t good at being macho may be funny, court jester types etc etc.
      Women compete at being pretty. If a girl isn’t as good at being pretty, she may try to give off a cute personality.
      It’s all equal, just looks different on opposite sides of the gender gap.

  • @mtrublu
    @mtrublu 6 лет назад +59

    WTF is she even talking about? "You're either human or a sexist." So being sexist means you're not human?!
    Lifting weights in the gym - "You're pretty good for a girl." If you say this, you are sexist. Why? In general, women don't have the muscle mass that men have. They're not expected to lift as much. That's not sexism. It's biology.
    What is wrong with equal in value, equal in rights, different in strengths, weaknesses, values and preferences?

    • @thecandidcounterbalance1492
      @thecandidcounterbalance1492 6 лет назад +7

      Biology is sexist, so if you believe in biology over feminism, you're not human.

    • @salometipsandtricks2786
      @salometipsandtricks2786 5 лет назад +6

      no it is. Also seems weird. Why add that last part when you could have just said. "You are pretty good." A person skill does not ditech their gender. A skillful person is a skillful person and that's it. Your statement put the person in a competitive mind set. Instanced of am doing this because I enjoy it. Now it is I have to compete with other people? Why are you comparing me?

    • @strutman12345
      @strutman12345 5 лет назад

      Lmao if her points were a stealth fighter, they just flew over your head undetected

    • @AbhijithSprk
      @AbhijithSprk 4 года назад

      She's essentially saying feminism is not required. We can just call out sexists and that's all that's needed. I'll agree to that.

    • @AnimalAlmighty
      @AnimalAlmighty 3 месяца назад

      ☕️

  • @vorsye
    @vorsye 6 лет назад +206

    LOL she quoted tumblr.

  • @jwang379
    @jwang379 5 лет назад +16

    "if you see people doing wrong or having a wrong belief, it's not always their fault" such beautiful word. but who is the right one to tell if one value is just absolutely the right one and the others are the faulty ones. isn't considering some values better than the others itself against the idea of equality

  • @WaterMan-ss6eb
    @WaterMan-ss6eb 6 лет назад +45

    All i want to know is who’s getting off the titanic first. Then we can go from there

    • @jpegovitch
      @jpegovitch 5 лет назад +4

      The wealthy i guess

    • @Oracleofcrows
      @Oracleofcrows 4 года назад +1

      Children and their parents. It would destroy me to watch children drown. I can't take that. I would risk dying as long as all the children got off safe.

  • @stephenmelton2532
    @stephenmelton2532 6 лет назад +93

    Here's a contradiction. You want the same right's as men, but not the same responsibilities. F O and D.

    • @puttputt524
      @puttputt524 6 лет назад +2

      stephen melton I know women who are willing to take on those responsibilities. Oh, and they hate feminazis. Sorry my sister does what she wants and hates feminism and provides no trigger warnings for snowflakes.

    • @mackhomie6
      @mackhomie6 6 лет назад +2

      Your sister? Lol
      ...
      Let me guess-- older??

  • @dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739
    @dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739 4 года назад +52

    I challenge this young girl to watch Cassie Jaye's documentary "The Red Pill".

    • @nupursharma762
      @nupursharma762 4 года назад +4

      She wasn't against feminism. AT ALL. She was talking about things we should also expect as feminists.

  • @bhumikabatra1996
    @bhumikabatra1996 2 года назад +12

    There is no problem in being a housewife If you are not being mistreated and disrespected for being so .

  • @lachlanbell8390
    @lachlanbell8390 6 лет назад +140

    Being treated as equals doesn't mean there cannot be differences. Tired old reductionist logic. No thanks.

    • @mackhomie6
      @mackhomie6 6 лет назад +3

      Aha dude, she's pretty young in this..

    • @lachlanbell8390
      @lachlanbell8390 6 лет назад +9

      mackhomie6 what's your point? Youth doesn't make bad ideas better.

    • @mackhomie6
      @mackhomie6 6 лет назад +4

      Lachlan Bell You need me to explain it? My point is that five year after this presentation, her ideas will be different and so will yours. My point is that your expectations for a tedx talk given by a girl her age have no basis in reality and are unrealistic

  • @sankadill
    @sankadill 5 лет назад +30

    She is in Middle East and lectures us about feminism 🤣🤣

  • @andrewhyogo
    @andrewhyogo 5 лет назад +20

    2:37 Sorry, but when has anyone ever said that in the gym?! I would be very, very surprised if someone actually said that.

  • @bensanderson7144
    @bensanderson7144 Год назад +14

    After watching this, I don’t think women were meant to be in control of the external world. This woman just spoke for several minutes about how we should be nice, fair and kind. I firmly believe we should leave serious work to men.

    • @dannicholls1507
      @dannicholls1507 8 месяцев назад

      I found her 10 mins. rigidly, even awkwardly, simplistic, naive & myopic. Not to mention she didn't do so much in the way of examples, which I think would've helped her view...possibly.

    • @CC3GROUNDZERO
      @CC3GROUNDZERO 7 месяцев назад

      I mean, she looks like a party girl. What really do you expect from someone who looks like that?

  • @sandramathew6066
    @sandramathew6066 3 года назад +48

    My lord finally!!! I have regained my faith in humanity after reading myriad of sensible comments, this proves that there are many of us out here who aren’t hoodwinking through life like majority of these mobs.

  • @manfredschmalbach9023
    @manfredschmalbach9023 6 лет назад +27

    "I don't wear makeup very often. But when I do, I look at my self and feel made up."

  • @PanDaMan-yd3ef
    @PanDaMan-yd3ef 5 лет назад +16

    Okay, where is the paradox?

  • @robr.5044
    @robr.5044 2 года назад +3

    Very few people in western society actually believe that men and women should not get equal opportunity. Feminism does not advocate for equality. It advocates for equity, which means quotas, which I think is a terrible idea.

  • @AM-we8hj
    @AM-we8hj 4 года назад +42

    In 29 years, I've never seen man expressively influence a woman to make up. Never. We even spend a lot of time telling them they're good as is with no need of make up. Now make up enhances sexiness traits and can be very well welcomed, but we do not ask specifically ask for it nor do we influence. If saying "oh damn you look so nice like that" is an influence as in comfirming the girl required making herself up to look even more beautiful, we're sorry, but it's a woman's obsession to look better and better all the time. And magazines that promote body-perfectness are usually put up together by women. It's a self inducted. So yeah. Leave us alone please.

  • @larryrobinson6914
    @larryrobinson6914 2 года назад +3

    They hate until they have a flat tire

  • @candidapeier
    @candidapeier 5 лет назад +6

    My thing is men and women should have the same rights and opportunities.....from voting, working, walking on the moon, etc, but women and men are not the same, if that makes sense

  • @danielgreen7050
    @danielgreen7050 3 года назад +20

    Men and women should be treated as equals. I so agree. When is us men gonna be treated the same as women? Think about that for a moment.

  • @DaRkLoRdX97
    @DaRkLoRdX97 4 года назад +19

    again whats the criteria for making a Tedx speech?

    • @wink3319
      @wink3319 3 года назад +3

      Connections

  • @texasyankee3512
    @texasyankee3512 6 лет назад +44

    So you stepping up to military/society service obligation, equal prison sentences, equal
    outcomes for suicide prevention, equal treatment of domestic violence victims whether male
    or female etc...

    • @jfryk
      @jfryk 3 года назад +1

      You need to just listen, she agrees with you. All of those things are sexist and they're equally bad for society.

  • @lex3729
    @lex3729 6 лет назад +63

    Women are the ones who are compelled by their own egos to wear makeup, it's not men "demanding". Of course, makeup, and fashion, for that matter can be employed, often to incredible effect to mask apparent genetic shortcomings, or defects, even to the point of fooling men into believing the fantasy being presented, ultimately, for the long-term benefit of the female. Have you studied cultural anthropology? The majority of human interactions, are deep seated, evolved instincts, yes, modified and conditioned by socialization and acculturation, but the essence, under all the mores and tenets people's Psyche's are wrapped in are biological imperatives. A human child is born as a Tabula Rasa, but not completely blank, but with a faint subtext, that will be refined by Education (which should be How to think, not What to think) and socialization (rational morality, but not myth based superstition).

    • @letsgetcancer7265
      @letsgetcancer7265 6 лет назад +4

      LEX37, damn that's deep. You are the one who should have been on the stage and not her.

    • @salometipsandtricks2786
      @salometipsandtricks2786 5 лет назад +1

      but men pick women with makeup more often then not.

    • @spiceyfrenchtoast9421
      @spiceyfrenchtoast9421 4 года назад +3

      @@salometipsandtricks2786 as a guy, I think makeup makes people uglier. But that's just my preference.

    • @salometipsandtricks2786
      @salometipsandtricks2786 4 года назад

      @@spiceyfrenchtoast9421 okay.

    • @thomaslang7616
      @thomaslang7616 2 года назад +2

      @@salometipsandtricks2786 This is called choice...or should men be forced to pick more women without makeup? Girls also pick guys with more muscles more often...should women be forced to pick more men who are less muscular?

  • @Oracleofcrows
    @Oracleofcrows 4 года назад +5

    The belief in equality and justice and support for all men and women, would be humanism, not feminism. Feminism is female centered. It's the meaning of the name.

    • @TheTrueMariWho
      @TheTrueMariWho Год назад

      Nomenclature matters.
      I prefer Egalitarianism.

  • @ScreamingManiac
    @ScreamingManiac 4 года назад +10

    If you ignore basic truths because of ideology then "progress" is impossible. Solutions require facts and facts don't exist without out truthfulness, understanding, sincerity and acknowledgment of when we are wrong. None of which exist in feminism.

  • @mason1188
    @mason1188 6 лет назад +36

    Women deserve equal rights, and lefts.

    • @PanDaMan-yd3ef
      @PanDaMan-yd3ef 5 лет назад +6

      @@florzinnha I assume this is a joke

    • @elisabeth4912
      @elisabeth4912 5 лет назад +3

      @@florzinnha Hope this is a joke

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 5 лет назад +2

      @@florzinnha
      Your neuroticism is acting up again.

    • @kazekori9593
      @kazekori9593 5 лет назад +2

      @@florzinnha im hoping this is satire

    • @gabepark1513
      @gabepark1513 5 лет назад +2

      @@florzinnha if everything you has said has been a joke (even though it would be severely unfunny) I apologize for overreacting the way I did

  • @cannonballdotcom3120
    @cannonballdotcom3120 5 лет назад +18

    Men and women are equal in value but different in role. If you tell a boy to man up, that’s fine because it will help them become a stronger father, a stronger soldier in case they are drafted. Plus, even if we weren’t told to man up, we still would not want to show our emotions. We just don’t like to.

  • @zeruty
    @zeruty 3 года назад +5

    You've left far more paradoxes unsolved.
    For instance, feminists say "but feminism just means that you believe in equality of the sexes!" when they are far too often sexist themselves.

    • @stephenpalmer8072
      @stephenpalmer8072 Год назад

      The clue is in the name, if it was about equality, they would call it Equalism or something similar, not FEMinism.

  • @x13rads
    @x13rads 4 года назад +3

    Men and Women should not be treated as equals, they should be treated as individuals.

  • @mattross945
    @mattross945 6 лет назад +86

    I love her passion and intention in the presentation and content of this talk. That said it pains me at each of her points the shallow level of analysis and the binary and simplistic way in which the perceived problems are quickly addressed, and then followed by the next point with each never being satisfactorily or pragmatically rectified.
    The comments here are pretty scathing and rightly so as her conclusions exist within the landscape of a highly contentious debate in which other actors have delved far further into.
    Given that I'm quite smit with the humanity she demonstrates and the genuine attempt to find middle ground for men and woman on a complex and divisive topic.
    Good on ya. I think you're wrong on almost everything you said. So so wrong. But your efforts warmed my heart. :)

    • @davideldred.campingwilder6481
      @davideldred.campingwilder6481 3 года назад +2

      This is why it's called a TED talk. She's got 15-20 mins to do a presentation...

    • @blackspiderman1887
      @blackspiderman1887 2 года назад

      Lololol I like how the first part of your answer you sounded like Jordan peterson, but then you wrapped everything up in one paragraph that sums it up nicely

    • @yurisucupira
      @yurisucupira 2 года назад

      To me, she's just a narcissist who's young and doesn't know sh!t about the world, but believes she does.

    • @dannicholls1507
      @dannicholls1507 8 месяцев назад

      I think you're missing fact that M945 is simply accurately defining/describing the delivery and content of her message...pretty basic.@@davideldred.campingwilder6481

  • @tvbrbrasil4743
    @tvbrbrasil4743 3 года назад +2

    Feminists lives in a parallel world...

  • @LYJManchesterUnited
    @LYJManchesterUnited 3 года назад +4

    Life before feminism was just .....
    Common sense..

  • @NexSicarius
    @NexSicarius 6 лет назад +32

    I know a lot of other people have brought this up as well, but I just wanted to say, it really is mostly other women who pressurise (whether directly or indirectly) women to wear make up to look "presentable". Men usually don't notice or care quite as much.

    • @puttputt524
      @puttputt524 6 лет назад

      Ashemarine men do the same thing, it just looks different. Women wear makeup, men break each other’s balls.
      My observation is like you to have:
      Women use Facebook like men play xbox.

  • @TheWhoMe123
    @TheWhoMe123 6 лет назад +3

    So, we should pit men and women against each other in weight lifting competitions? No. Because the best women weight lifters are good "for women". That's not sexist. It's true.

    • @puttputt524
      @puttputt524 6 лет назад

      TheWhoMe123 apparently we are doing that now, because trans people

  • @jamesperkins2552
    @jamesperkins2552 4 года назад +4

    The reason you are defining these paradoxes is because you want it both ways. You want your choices like a man but you don't want criticism or judgement like a man. Why not embrace equality, which means the right to do as you wish, plus the responsibility to accept the judgement and disapproval that comes from that.

  • @M1nglew00d
    @M1nglew00d 6 лет назад +4

    Maybe we should just tell the women to man up - that would also be equal and fair treatment.
    Women continue to insist that they use makeup and dress "for themselves" and not for men, which mostly seems to be the case except when they want to blame all their idiosyncratic behaviour on the patriarchy.

  • @EclectismTV
    @EclectismTV 6 лет назад +19

    When you say to a girl at the gym "You're pretty good for a girl". It means what it means. Look at Olympic Weightlifting divisions for God's sake! In terms of relative strength, a girl cannot lift as much weight as a dude. You can give her as much anabolic steroids as you want. Meng Suping (120kg woman) might grow a "stache but she's never gonna beat Lu Xiaojun (77kg man) on the snatch. Men are physically stronger by nature. And that's a fact you cannot deny.

    • @yunidai16
      @yunidai16 2 года назад +1

      I'm guessing it depend on how you say it, in addition to whether or not the statement has value. If they say it in an oblivious, yet well-meaning way, they're unintentionally being sexist. If they say it in an obviously narcissistic way that implies the scenario in question is impossible, then they're intentionally being sexist.

  • @kumbandit
    @kumbandit 3 года назад +15

    A smart young lady, but I beg to differ about the weight lifting: On average, men have 50% more upper body strength, so when you see a woman lifting even remotely large weight and are impressed by it, it is not sexism, it is just that - being impressed. There ARE factors in that particular case, and I think it is a poorly chosen example out of many.

  • @The666Steppenwolf
    @The666Steppenwolf 4 года назад +6

    It's about time men ask for actual equality and parity ...
    Enough anti male female privilege institutionalized.

  • @keithmoriyama5421
    @keithmoriyama5421 6 лет назад +6

    Feminism is all about having what ever you want, when you want it, then complaining that you never got it.

  • @upinsmoke2897
    @upinsmoke2897 6 лет назад +22

    Can Ted stop giving forum space to college juniors.

  • @trevorcook3129
    @trevorcook3129 Год назад +1

    Feminism can never be equal. It’s in the name

  • @jarodjohnson6630
    @jarodjohnson6630 5 лет назад +18

    I couldn't help to notice she didn't mention nor used the word " father". Fathers in America are seemingly no longer worth mentioning since single motherhood is so great. Look at 80% of the prison population

  • @thomasdrummond6939
    @thomasdrummond6939 4 года назад +8

    Why can't feminists accept that you can be equally worthy and yet different ?

  • @DeconvertedMan
    @DeconvertedMan 6 лет назад +6

    Feminism is NOT about equal rights! Stop lying!

    • @puttputt524
      @puttputt524 6 лет назад

      Deconverted Man she’s saying she wishes it was

  • @jarretgrathwol4790
    @jarretgrathwol4790 4 года назад +9

    She's hella confused.

  • @cinematicvisual
    @cinematicvisual 2 года назад +3

    and she was asked to give a ted talk?

  • @lukestarks7264
    @lukestarks7264 6 лет назад +3

    Im heated, with that weight lifting example, pretty good for a girl is not sexist. FUN FACT: women are biologically weaker, the lack of testosterone makes muscle growth very hard. So being pretty goo for a girl is just saying she is strong for a girl which if you look at those lifts compared to men, are not very good, but that doesn't mean it isn't impressive, just that its only impressive for a girl.

  • @gautamsrivastava1668
    @gautamsrivastava1668 3 года назад +13

    1.2k likes and 1.2 dislikes. 50-50. Like the thoughts in her confused mind 😅

  • @sadmanpranto9026
    @sadmanpranto9026 4 года назад +4

    I stopped at 2:50
    This is what Ted people are bringing to speak nowadays ?? I had great respect for who they bring and what they tell...

  • @MasterGhostf
    @MasterGhostf 3 года назад +4

    Yea. This is bonkers, everyone wants equality. But, what about respect?

  • @antihackergrlnow
    @antihackergrlnow 6 лет назад +27

    She sounds very uptight and misinformed. She thinks to much about life in general instead of just living it and not worrying about how much make up a girl puts on. I put on make up. It's for fun,, to make a woman feel better and more confident. It's not to make other women feel bad. I don't believe women always deserve extra rights, because they are always demanding more then what they can handle. Like me I choose cashiering because I didn't want the role of supervisor, it was more stressful. It seems like something a man could handle more, but it doesn't mean i believe women can't do that job. Or that i'm sexist. I just believe that I do better in basic job positions. It doesn't mean I have no education, I study psychology and i finished trade school. I earned it all by myself. But I don't need to be a leader to feel good about myself. And I don't believe men aren't allowed to cry. I think women need to focus on their future instead of protesting and sitting at home. If your going to be at home, at least take care of the house. And don't make excuses for yourself. That's a quick way to end up homeless.

    • @thisarirandunu
      @thisarirandunu 6 лет назад +9

      But that was the exact point of my speech, giving people the freedom to do as they please, meaning you get the opportunity to work at your own pace and also giving other people the choice to go higher or stay where they are, I don’t get how that makes me misinformed? Not everyone has the right mindset that you have, and the purpose of my speech was to make those who are judgmental a little less narrow minded

    • @mackhomie6
      @mackhomie6 6 лет назад +1

      This topic really brings em out of the woodwork. I wouldn't let it get to ya : )

  • @socratesm.1650
    @socratesm.1650 5 лет назад +14

    If Men and women are equal, then let's have the WNBA AND NBA play one against the other. Let's also put male prisoners with female prisoners in the same cells)

    • @wink3319
      @wink3319 3 года назад

      That is already happening: Transgenders.

    • @nhvkuy4675
      @nhvkuy4675 3 года назад

      Yeah, because physical strength is the most important thing in modern society

    • @kiranmcbanana6350
      @kiranmcbanana6350 3 года назад

      @@nhvkuy4675 it used to be but I guess not as much anymore as we are becoming more modern and using sophisticated technology instead of brute strength.

    • @TheTrueMariWho
      @TheTrueMariWho Год назад

      A bunch of rag-tag, school boys beat the US Olympic female soccer team.
      It’s true, look it up. ⚽️

  • @TheIsaacLee
    @TheIsaacLee 5 лет назад +14

    Man this was painful to listen to. I believe she thinks it is logical to be illogical.

  • @user-zg7lz8ds8o
    @user-zg7lz8ds8o Месяц назад

    This is actually important. To be strong you have to have the capability to do harm. And that means the capacity for violence. Not the proclivity, but if you can’t do harm then you can’t be strong or safe for a woman to follow.

  • @greggstageman
    @greggstageman 6 месяцев назад

    She said women shouldn’t have to wear makeup as men don’t, but that they should have the right to wear it. Feminism is the definition of wanting to have your cake and eat it.

  • @DrSebby
    @DrSebby 6 лет назад +7

    This very attractive girl will never know the spectrum of experiences that unattractive women meet on a daily basis. NEVER. This is not a rude or smarmy comment, it's simply reality. I can't speak for them either, being a guy. But i DO KNOW that it's a very different universe for them, in contrast to her.

  • @pagesfrommylife
    @pagesfrommylife 6 лет назад +7

    Possibly the worst Ted talks ever

  • @M1nglew00d
    @M1nglew00d 6 лет назад +2

    Why the insistence that different means unequal? People can be different (actually each is unique) and yet still equal. It is in either case a sloppy or deceptive use of the word equal. One cannot be "equal" without specifying "in what" so as equal in importance (check), equal in rights (check), equal in birthing a child? - women are superior, equal in building skyscrapers? Men are generally the only ones who want to do this work, though there are many strong women who are equally capable. In this case the difference has nothing to do with equality of abilities, but differences in preferences.

  • @RichardOpokuEngineer
    @RichardOpokuEngineer 6 лет назад +4

    You're either human or sexist? Woow.... what a great way to dehumanize anyone who disagrees with you

    • @viharsarok
      @viharsarok 3 года назад +2

      Ironically, feminists are sexists because they want different rules for women. So she is not a human by her own logic.

  • @Kiwiherm
    @Kiwiherm 4 года назад +1

    The definition of feminism is the defense of women’s rights by definition not the equality of genders

  • @jeffvalencia7656
    @jeffvalencia7656 5 лет назад +2

    If we shouldn't differentiate then when it comes to Mixed Martial Arts, the UFC should get rid of the womans divisions and let them fight in the men's divisions. Treat everyone equally because we are all equal in every way.

  • @Ratrix
    @Ratrix 6 лет назад +10

    This emphasizes for me the importance of NOT AIMING FOR EQUALITY. Why on God's green earth would women want to be treated like men and vice versa. Why is "equality" needed when they are not equal to begin with. It's not even a statement that should be made. Do we look at apples and oranges equally? No, because they are not equal. They are two different things to be treated as such. Differently. We should be striving to treat people with JUSTICE not EQUALITY. With compassion and empathy. We treat men and women differently and always will because they are completely and utterly different.

    • @stevegcq
      @stevegcq 6 лет назад

      Agreed, watch an intelligent women explain: *h3G7x1WA-D0*

    • @arwamahmoud2499
      @arwamahmoud2499 6 лет назад

      What you are talking about is equity the definition of equality doesn't mean everyone gets the same things because we are all inherently different. Equality is recognising these differences and making sure everyone gets the same opportunities based on those differences.

    • @stevegcq
      @stevegcq 6 лет назад

      rooro dade ... too vague. Absolutely no one could make sense of that comment. You must give examples.

    • @Ratrix
      @Ratrix 6 лет назад +1

      roora dade That is completely false. Equality looks at nothing and simply treats all, similarly, regardless of any differences or circumstances. Equality is putting a urinal in a woman's bathroom because men have it as well. Equality is giving men paternity leave because women have maternity leave. Equity however, is conditional equality. Equity attempts to provide based on NEEDS and not based on what everyone else has. Equality is absolutely ineffective because men and women are not and should be treated equally. Equity is giving men what they need and women what they need so they both are treated fairly and are able to ultimately feel and have access to the same.

  • @michaeleastman9570
    @michaeleastman9570 6 лет назад +18

    if I say she is so hot would that be sexist? well she is. just a fact.

    • @puttputt524
      @puttputt524 6 лет назад +1

      Michael Eastman She is on the brink of tears throughout the talk. Sexist? No. Insensitive? Yes, but men are kind of insensitive. And because I think men are less empathetic and bad at communication, I think we are shooting par for the course.

    • @zanezardes4179
      @zanezardes4179 5 лет назад

      damn she is fire

    • @lexiehua1457
      @lexiehua1457 5 лет назад

      puttputt524 I think that’s just vocal fry

  • @kevinrosa6014
    @kevinrosa6014 6 лет назад +8

    This comment section is poison.

  • @vyrxcx
    @vyrxcx 2 года назад +1

    Centering feminism around 'choice' is rather shallow as people do not make choices in a vacuum without outside influence. Even if women have the 'choice' to choose between working in the home and working at an office, there are still social pressures are funnel people into certain choices. A better solution would be to raise the social and economic prestige of homemaking, as in actually paying women for their labor in the home. Women work without pay to raise the next generation of workers for the capitalist class. The same can be said of makeup, the makeup industry spends billions pressuring people to purchase makeup through advertising. People are also going to compare themselves to those around them in a social setting and therefore feel pressured to use makeup whether they wish to or not.

  • @SenorTucano
    @SenorTucano 5 лет назад +18

    worst TED talk ive ever heard. Who wants to listen to an entitled woman badgering the audience in an aggressive tone?

  • @freetheman7417
    @freetheman7417 4 года назад +1

    Nobody forced woman to wear makeup that’s not men’s problem

  • @jaketurnbull23
    @jaketurnbull23 4 года назад +15

    Well this was a mess of a speech

  • @yurisucupira
    @yurisucupira 3 года назад +3

    The greatest paradox in feminism is that it states to be one thing but does the opposite.

  • @Time_to_Believe_in_Yourself
    @Time_to_Believe_in_Yourself 8 месяцев назад

    It's becoming more and more clear to me that "feminists" don't do their research on "feminism"
    Cassie Jaye of the red pill said "actually learning about feminism, is what made me leave feminism"

  • @sydneybaker9303
    @sydneybaker9303 6 лет назад +1

    Men and women are NOT the same, nor will they ever be. Each of the genders (two, not infinite and fluid) need to coexist with the differences we do have. Forcing 'equality' merely results in fascism and resentment. This girl has some of the right ideas, but calling someone sexist because there are innate differences between the sexes biologically isn't right.

  • @neilanshharshit2845
    @neilanshharshit2845 4 года назад +2

    Again, what is the criteria to speak in a TED talk?

  • @anime108amv2
    @anime108amv2 Год назад +3

    What most feminists dont understand is that women choose to be in certain fields and avoid things that they know they will not fit. Men and women are inherently different whether its physically/mentally and both genders choose to do or pursue what they know they can excel in. The opportunity for women to become miners, construction workers, and stem/engineering employees is already there, the only issue is that majority of women will avoid these roles for something they consider easier and more beneficial. What most feminists want is to pressure women into fields that they might not even want themselves and this takes away their choice.

  • @denmalski
    @denmalski 6 лет назад +1

    here is a paradox, Women don't need men but have no problem with alimony cheques, child support I understand but if your an equal then go make your own money. BTW I'm not divorced, just see it all the time. If you chose to leave your man than you chose to leave his money as well but that's not the case,

  • @jpalance8493
    @jpalance8493 5 лет назад +3

    It has never been more popular, more normal, and more socially acceptable to hate ALL men. Continue to be loud, be brutal, and get your sisters to hate men too - before the men in your life hurt and oppress you yet again.

  • @shubrakshiseth8723
    @shubrakshiseth8723 3 года назад

    She didn't deserve those many dislikes.....I really liked it

  • @Ajooba1982
    @Ajooba1982 5 лет назад +3

    This was not a ted talk. It’s an outburst with nothing to gain for the viewer. Thanks for nothing.

  • @benson8310
    @benson8310 3 года назад +1

    i am confused! Why did RUclips algorithm recommend this to me today Sept 2021? but anyways i have to say, men are men, women are women, we are created different biologically, so men should focus on being the best men, and women focus on being the best women, we have problems when women try to be men and men try to be women and when others want to be both!

  • @fluffymcdeath
    @fluffymcdeath 3 месяца назад

    If your ideology produces paradoxes that's a sign the ideology is at odds with reality.

  • @Torsdagskvallsmys
    @Torsdagskvallsmys 3 года назад +2

    Life isnt equal. Life isnt fair. I have no rights, I am nothing. I expect to suffer, and I expect death.

    • @stephenpalmer8072
      @stephenpalmer8072 Год назад

      It's being so cheerful that keeps you going - yeah?

    • @Torsdagskvallsmys
      @Torsdagskvallsmys Год назад

      @@stephenpalmer8072 it is cheerfull, but maybe you dont see it?

    • @stephenpalmer8072
      @stephenpalmer8072 Год назад

      @@Torsdagskvallsmys I should have put a smiley face at the end - its an old British saying.

    • @Torsdagskvallsmys
      @Torsdagskvallsmys Год назад

      @@stephenpalmer8072 i love you

  • @austinthornton3407
    @austinthornton3407 6 лет назад +5

    This sounds like a conventional expression of western feminism.
    But if this is said in Dubai to a Middle Eastern audience, it has a very different context.
    So well done I say.

    • @thisarirandunu
      @thisarirandunu 6 лет назад +4

      Austin Thornton a lot of people fail to realise that I’m not a white woman and hence when speaking on these issues, I speak for the millions of POC coming from narrow minded and primitive cultures, can’t satisfy everyone I suppose. Thank you tho!

    • @AbhijithSprk
      @AbhijithSprk 4 года назад

      @@thisarirandunu I would have appreciated you more if you spoke about the real problems women face in those countries rather than about the problem of deciding whether or not to wear make-up.

  • @rodsims8471
    @rodsims8471 6 лет назад +1

    We are different , but neither is better , no one is better , fundamentally, men run the world , and women run the men ..

  • @outofoblivionproductions4015
    @outofoblivionproductions4015 6 лет назад +9

    "...make-up industry..." zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • @linguaphile9415
    @linguaphile9415 6 лет назад +1

    Well, you don't have to add that a woman is lifting weight pretty well for a woman, but it does sometimes make sense. This is such a case. Men and women have completely different bodies, a woman cannot be compared to a man in terms of strength.

  • @saaakill
    @saaakill 3 года назад +1

    If someone says " that's a good wight for a girl to lift" there is noting wrong, because girls have less muscles so biologically they are made to lift less weight.
    Sometimes the context is important, without context you can label anyone anything. And the thing about equal rights is also contextual. Girls are better in some work and boys are better in others. To be efficient we should do the work in which we are best.

  • @patricksullivan1827
    @patricksullivan1827 Год назад +1

    This young lady is wise and dialectical!
    Acting upon by speaking about is much different than acting upon using tools and power. One is representional actualization the other is doing in the world. The media wastes a lot of time and space on the former to societys loss. This can empower the latter! For so many reasons - saturation or complacency being probably the most significant

  • @prajyottote2691
    @prajyottote2691 5 лет назад +1

    If Feminism = Equal Right for men and women, isn't the name itself paradoxical o.0? Shouldn't it be called as Femenism instead 0.o?

  • @sambhav6385
    @sambhav6385 2 года назад +1

    "If you see a girl lifting weights at the gym and you tell her that she is pretty good for a girl, then you are sexist"
    maybe just maybe someone said that because women and men are physically different, how is that sexist? 2:40