Was A Nightmare on Elm Street 5 The Dream Child The End of Freddymania? - Talking About Tapes
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- I'm back on Elm Street and this time @MovieDumpster is here to join me! Before Stephen Hopkins directed Predator 2 he made A Nightmare on Elm Street 5 The Dream Child! The movie had a lot going for it but it didn't land as well as the previous films. Was this the end for Freddymania?
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That sex was Dan and the actor that played super Freddy because the actress wasn't into a sex scene
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That scene where Freddy grows out of Alice and the two separate looks amazing and was incredibly well done
How they filmed that scene was really something to watch!! They brought in a paraplegic and small actor, who they physically harnessed to Lisa's chest! They supported his body by thin wires and used animated legs to come out of her back! Really wild!
Dying every time he yells out ITS A BOOOY
5 is fairly scrutinized as it deserves to be but it is my favorite. Worth the wait I haven't slept in 2 months. Good ep Dudical Dudes 💪
RELEASED THE UNCENSORED CUT. Even in low quality uploads, the uncensored motorcycle scene is GRUESOME.
I heard the reason why it's so gruesome it's because they were aware that Freddy was getting to campy and was trying to get back to the scary seriousness. Sadly didn't work.
Always awesome seeing Sean and Joe here!
I agree!!
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This is one of my favorite Nightmare on Elm Street movies I love when Freddy says it's a boy
My favourite bad line is where Yvonne says. "You are just a little pregnant." So do you have patients that are MEDIUM Pregnant?
The extended or directors cut of Nightmare 5 on vhs has a yellow label on the front cover that says "The full length uncensored version, contains material not seen in the theatrical release." The run time is 91 mins, the only differences are the kills are all extended. The vhs movie dumpster has is the theatrical cut, Media released both versions. The VHS and maybe laser disc are the only way to watch the uncensored version as of now, I suggest you check it out Tony, you will probably like the extended kills.
Gotta grab another copy it seems. -Joe
i love the whole comicbook sequence. the guys superhero powers, and Super Freddy etc, so good. glorious cheese.
It must be such an honor to be able to talk to Tony of Dark Knight Rises fame.
During almost this entire review Tony almost only looks at Joe while he is talking and never Sean. He really only looks at Sean when he is talking and even then Tony barley looks his way. It's almost like Sean is the 3rd wheel at his own video dungeon 😂
IM NOT USED TO BEING IN THE MIDDLE!
Threesomes amiright?
@@HackTheMovies TONY HATES SEAN CONFIRMED!
The way Alice got Kristin’s power wasn’t convoluted at all…. Alice’s dream power was always taking the powers of those she dreamed with. Kristen called Alice to her dream, and Alice got her power to call others. On NBC’s Heroes, the called that an Empath, like Peter Patrelli
i watched Elm Street 5 for DVD a week ago and just noticed this in the very beginning of the movie and never noticed it for a long time. apparently Freddy Krueger has resurrection powers where he used it to bring Amanda Krueger's soul back to life somehow and use her torture her in the dream world to give birth to him while having Alice witness it. Strange moment and pretty evil and twisted for Freddy Krueger to do something like to his dead mother's soul
I’m with Jay from RedLetterMedia that after Part 2 (which now has its fans) that it’s this one that’s the most underrated. It’s incredibly creative visually and the thematic stuff is interesting. The goofiness of Freddy clashes a bit with the tone, but I still think it ultimately works well.
Such a pity the plot is paper thin compared to the previous four. And it was obvious they were just stretching it.
Part 5 sucked and really hurt the franchise, and Freddy's Dead was just a pathetic ending to the series and everyone hated it.
The three deaths movie were very creative, especially the comic book one.
GREAT EPISODE, PSYCHED TO SEE YOU IN THE VIDEO DUNGEON WITH JOE & SEAN!
SUPER FREDDY!
More powerful than a locomadman 😂
I all ways figured that at the start of these movies, Freddy didn't know just what he could do and being freshly killed was still pissed, so he was less joking about. It was as things went on that he started messing with everyone just because the whole thing got dull for him otherwise.
My second-favorite Nightmare film.. that is all.
Your comment has offended me; now I'm gonna get Freddy Krueger to burst your fart 🤪
With the uncut version the same thing happened in the UK. The VHS rental release was uncut. The cinema version and all other releases are cut, Dan and Greta deaths. I worked in a video store at the time. I kept alot of tapes from then Nightmare 5 being one of them.
Yeah Movie Dumpster thank you
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Since it was brought up, i find nothing wrong with the ending of part 4. It's in the Dream Master rhyme: "evil will see itself, and it shall die!" I just figured since Alice was in a church, she used the church's stained glass to give power to the trapped souls to escape. I have no problem with the one-liners. As I mentioned on the Elm Street 4 video, i saw the latter ones before I saw the early ones. I saw 4-Freddy's Dead when i was little. I watched 4 at a friend's house. Don't remember when i first saw 5, and my step-dad took my to see Freddy's Dead in theaters when it first came out. I don't think that they "forgot" the dream powers. I just think that they went away when Freddy died because Alice got them from Kristen. In Elm Street 4, only Dan survived. So, that's how Alice got new friends. It's explained by Mark that Amanda killed herself after Freddy was freed. So, I'm guessing that someone hid her body. I never thought that Amanda was supposed to fight Freddy. That's why she needed Alice's help. I never noticed Freddy in the wall.
After her son, Freddy, was mobbed by the angry parents, Amanda locked herself away in that tower.. sealed the bricks around the room, in essence, killing herself, but without "technically" committing suicide, which would be considered a sin. She couldn't face the "curse" she had brought in to the world, yet, as a mother, she still did love her son. It was an agonizing and tragic situation for any mother.
Really enjoyed how much this felt like an episode of movie dumpster but if any guys enjoyed this but aren't familiar make sure to check them out they don't get enough love
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I'm glad to see Tony can finally admit he had to foreclose on his store. 👊
What about Stephen Hopkins' 1993 gem Judgment Night?! Awesome and underrated!
Very underrated. A very entertaining movie
Super Freddy was in Master of Disguise as one of Brent Spiner's goons.
Actor- Michael Bailey Smith! He's awesome and super kind, btw!🥰
That’s what I was thinking of! I remembered talking about it in that episode. -Joe
I remember that film and Jason Takes Manhattan, both bombed the same year in 1989.
I always say that people got tired of the 80's before the 80's were even finished.
The NIGHTMARE Franchise might've been Losing Steam at this point but one thing is For Sure & it's the Fact that ROBERT ENGLUND still Worked his ASS off as FREDDY KRUEGER no matter how campy he became 😃🤘🤘
Hey it's been awhile since we got a HACK THE MOVIES/MOVIE DUMPSTER Crossover Video,,,,,Awesome to see you guys together again 😃🤘🤘
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Yay!!! Love when these guys visit!!!!!
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I was looking at that shirt and thought “That skull looks familiar”... And sure enough... Faces of Death!!! 🙂
I don't comment often but just wanted to say that I always look forward to your videos, keep up the good work man.
Oh and btw, as to your question about the guy playing "Super Freddy" in the cartoon kill, that is the actor Michael Bailey Smith, who also, btw, was Danny's hunky body double in the opening sex scene. Michael has been in a TON of movies and TV, including playing numerous wild characters in the TV series "Charmed" and the films "The Hills Have Eyes" 1 &2, Men in Black, and many more!
Michael was also Ben Grimm in the Roger Corman Fantastic Four but oddly some other guy was in the Thing suit.
@@raulzavala9061yes! That was the other one I couldn’t think of. -Joe
This was the first Nightmare movie I saw in the theater…I was the target (child) audience for Freddy-Mania. Immediately, I noticed a different vibe to it, but still liked it. Mark was a cool character, too! Was definitely bummed about the smaller bodycount - even at the age of 6 or 7 when I saw it. 😂. I think it unfairly gets dunked on though…easy target as far as I’m concerned. For my money, Freddy Vs Jason is way worse.
For all intents and purposes….as rushed as the turnaround time was from getting a greenlight to release….things could have/SHOULD have been much worse. There are a ton of Dumpster favorites that I always thought were way worse. 😂
You could see the target audience's age dropping as the series went on.... Part 1 has relatively nuanced portrayals of the adult characters and is dark, Part 2 is still dark but this time the adults are portrayed as caricatures. Part 3 introduces some corny elements and fantasy stuff, Part 4 is shot brightly and tones down the visceral violence a great deal, and Englund really embraces the camp. Part 5 introduces a child character, and Part 6 is very cartoonish and literally has Freddy playing a video game (at that time, video games were played mainly by people under the age of about 16).
Freddy lives in the mind wether awake or not. The subject is just more vulnerable when asleep.
Dan's dad was played by Burr Debennig. And every time I see him all I think is he is Dr. TED Nelson
Definitely worth the wait!
Thanks man.
🎶He's back again🎶 During the opening baby making scene, the camera quickly shows Dan's back has long scratch marks & as Alice gets out of bed his hand foreshadows the glove...not that glove.
The shitty makeup was the biggest problem for me
The "shitty makeup" would be thanks to Robert Englund who didn't want to spend hours in a makeup chair anymore and just wanted something that was easy to apply to him.
And in Freddy's Dead it's even WORSE
@@lutherheggs451 No, that is not true. It's because New Line explicitly told David Miller to tone down Freddy's look so he wouldn't look as scary to kids. The makeup Englund wears in Nightmare 5 and Freddy's Dead took the exact same amount of time to apply and remove as the previous makeups.
@@ConstantineFurmanYeah, both the 80's/90's Batman movies and Elm Street movies suffered from the studio increasingly marketing to kids.
I want a cross over between nightmare dream child and problem child
Problem Child 2 review coming at you soon!
@@MovieDumpster imagine the girl from this takes Jason who has some of Freddy demonic powers teams up with the kids from problem child
@@jmonster19993”Bad to the Bone” kicks up and Junior makes Freddy barf his innards out on a carnival ride.
@@MovieDumpster I want the title requiem for a problem child
I think that it is important to mention that Doctor who blabbed on Alice would be sued for every dime he has. Also, I think Dan's folks wanted that kid so that they could raise him to hopefully become some NFL superstar. Just my personal opinion but Greta was a bitch for too large a portion of the movie for her to survive.
Always love seeing the three of you together.
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Head cannon, Freddy wasn’t defeated. Alice moves away from Springwood leaving the dream world without the dream master allowing for Freddy to go full power and kill all the kids leading to Freddy’s dead.
I have that same VHS from when I was a kid. I remember not being to into this one at that age thinking the kid stuff was dumb, but when I revisited it when I was older I liked it a lot more. To be fair, I love all the Nightmare movies (except the remake), but this one is definitely toward the bottom of my rankings in the franchise.
Also, Jesse Owens actually received a signed letter from Hitler congratulating him on his win while FDR didn't. Dang it! Just when I thought I could go one comment without making a WW II reference Tony reels me back in! 😅
Noes 4 was.
The moment you have Freddy putting on a pair of sunglasses the fear is over.
The movie series should've just focused on Kruger killing his school bound victims in many different ways. The moment where they started to create a long plot to somehow create more solid characters with history, other than Nancy's family, made it slightly unpleasing
I wonder how much of "Dream Child" was influenced by 1988's "The Fly II"? Both centered around the 'offspring' of their murderous fathers and essentially were the final nails in each franchises' coffins to a degree.
I love the graduation scene. Where we meet all of the stereotyped characters: Artist/skater, rich fashion model, swim team girl etc. We see Alice's father again, who is now sober. All leading up to awesome family picture with all the crazy parents. This movie sucks but it was the very first Nightmare that I saw in the theater as a kid 💯
As a kid, the scene always made me sad thinking about all the ones that should’ve been there, but had died 😢
Nightmare 5 is the only film in the series that doesn't have the 1428 elm street house in it.
Freddy becomes Mr. Freeze from Batman & Robin. The writers didn't write a character, they wrote jokes and tried to cram them into Freddy
Anyone else notice how the Unholy Trinity all had their worst performing, worst received Films drop in 1989?
Hahaha 1h11m in Tony flubs it and Sean feels Vindicated 😆
What a feeling
Always rooting for the little guy 🤪
He was busting my balls about it for months cause I kept saying it by mistake! 😂
5 was directed by Stephen Hopkins the director of predator 2 and fox almost got him to do alien 3 before they hired fincher and the director of 4 was the first director of alien 3 when he stepped down they gave him die hard 2
Super Freddy was in the remake of Hills Have Eyes
The scene where Freddy was on a skateboard is because at the time my cousin Robert Englund favorite game with Tony Hawk skateboard, so Robert wanted to include that in this movie as a shout out to Tony Hawk.
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I like certain parts of this one so i don't hate it. Interesting to hear what you guys said about studio interference. Definitely not the best horse out the gate but tampering turned it the elmers. "Harvey!!!! Im Amanda Krueger 🤣. You guys work hard and give us great reviews and alot of great info. Much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Maybe Jacob knows the kid from mimic who was friends with Mr. FUNNY SHOES
Was thinking the same thing 😂 CHEWEY! -Joe
The best way to watch The Dream Child is when you're half asleep.
You get the basic story idea and Robert England as Freddy.
If you fall completely asleep then it's no big loss.
The only good thing about Stephen Hopkins Big Screen Version of LOST IN SPACE is Gary Oldman as Dr.Zachary Smith
Uh oh, Tony went single white female on Joe
So apparently the actress Lisa Wilcox is on the weird reality TV show MILF Manor, where a bunch of cougars date each other's grown 20 something year old sons and are put in awkward situations around each other.
The movie is definitely a mess, but it does have some creative skills and unique camera tricks.
Hey, Joe! I noticed a gold helmet hung in the background set behind your head. What is that? good review btw...
Phantom of the Paradise! Glad you enjoyed the show! 🙏💚📼
“It’s Super-Freddy!”
Aww, Super-Freddy sucks.
I don’t know what the hell Joe is talking about, but Part 7 (New Nightmare) came out in 1994.
Wait what? -Joe
@@MovieDumpster Maybe you misspoke, but there’s a moment in the video that you say “When did Part 7 come out, 1987?”.
@@TheRealBGregz I was talking about Friday the 13th Part 7 (it’s 88) in regards to being chopped up by the MPAA like Nightmare 5 was, as they came out within a year of each other. I don’t think I was able to fully finish my thought as we were talking. -Joe
@@MovieDumpster Ohh, okay. My mistake then!
@@TheRealBGregz no sweat!
I don't care what anyone says I love this movie. Seeing more of Freddy's fucked up backstory is a delight.
This is honestly my least favorite one of the franchise. Also it's great to see joe and sean in the store!!
Each Nightmare film tried to deliver something different part 4 was the MTV Nightmare popcorn film with cool 80s rock and Kungfu. This one goes for a slow somber feel and is all about female issues and female themes with the pregnancy plot in doing so the film is slower paced and lacks a body count but female audiences will enjoy this film more because it's aimed more at them then a male audience. They didn't think they could go bigger then 4 so instead they went smaller and tried to make a more personal story for the female hero.
Anyone know who will be on with T today?
I saw this with my uncle and gf back in 1989 in time square in the abandoned united artists theater
“Hey Danny, better not dream and drive”
Was this the (silly) slam dunk scene Nightmare on Elm Street movie? Awesome episode!
How would you react if a NBA player slam-dunked your fart back into your ass?
This was the first Nightmare on Elm Street movie I watched in it's entirety. I was 8, I think. I had spent the night with my older cousin, and she rented this and Jason Takes Manhattan 😆. This movie freaked me out, and to this day I do Not like taking showers in a booth type shower with the clear doors. I always think they just might get stuck and fill up with water to drown me😱😝.
i saw something where it explained the sweater choice. i guess the colors red and green together (stripes) cause some confliction on the eyes which can be unpleasant? so that is the red and green thing.
I like Super Freddy, there. I said it.
Super Freddy rules.
Freddy’s Dead: The Final Nightmare is Fine and Fun!!
@spideyfan1990 No, it's awful!
It's a guilty pleasure of mine.
@@Horrormaster13 All I hear you saying is "I hate fun."
@@ConstantineFurmanFreddy's Dead isn't fun. It's a dumpster fire.
Part 6 is a guilty pleasure as it was the first time I was 10 on tv and was old enough to get the lore and I watched 2, 3 and 4 with my brother and then I watched them over and over on my vcr I got for Christmas and started to binge on them and I became an immediate diehard fan and nearly jumped up and down when I saw the tv advert for Freddy vs Jason and for my 13th birthday I got a 7 disc special edition of the nightmare collection part 1 and 3,4 were my favorite movies of the series I like part 2 and 7 for the more darker tone and the version of Freddy, but my favorite iteration of Freddy is part 3 where he's a dark combination of both one liners and atmosphere
1989 was pretty lackluster not just for Freddy but other horror franchises with weak sequels like Halloween 5 and Jason Takes Manhattan which was weird because just the year before all three franchises had some good sequels.
Well the new blood came out the same year as the dream master
@@BRIANOCONNOR2003 - yeah that's what I mean, F13: The New Blood and ANOES Dream Master were both good entries which came out the previous year 1988.
The Dream Child is the greatest film ever made.
THATS IT!; NOW I'M GONNA GET FREDDY KRUEGER TO BURST YOUR FART 🤪
So we’re not calling these episodes Hack The Movie Dumpster?
Yo why I thought dude on the right was Kane Hodder at first glance 😂
Part 5 sucks.
jacob is like "i see dead people."
I love some of the kills in this the practical effects are great it's definitely not as comedic as Freddys dead but still has it's flaws it's wacky but I love it I wanna see uncut version
Just starting watching...I wonder if they cover the biggest question from horror that I've never found an answer for...
Why in the fuck is Freddy's arm SO LONG when he first appears?
It was the beginning of the end, I didn't hate it, but it was just very forgettable. Also, Nightmare 4 in 1988 did really damn good at the box office and Nightmare 5 had a massive drop off compared to 4. People were getting burned out on slashers in general by 1989 and Freddy did jump the shark with all the merchandise and all the MTV s@@t.
You know what movie is not the final chapter? "AssMasters 7: The final chapter" They let a lot of loose ends!!!
I always thought, based on seeing Freddy at the end of 4, that Robert was Freddy hiding in her subconscious, not Freddy's dad.. and when she "wakes" next to Robert instead of Dan, that was telling us that she just had sex with Freddy in the dream, and as you know you can bring things out of the dream... And Freddy didn't use protection in the dream, and then the family resemblance line.. Jacob is literally Freddy's son...
As much as I love 3, ( saw it in the theatre with my dad at 13), he started the shenanigans and one liners in that film. In my old age I really just appreciate one and two so much. New nightmare had a awesome first half and then well.
I was going to disagree with you, but I'm remembering stuff like "this is it, Jennifer. Your big break in tv". "Let's get high". "It's the chair for you, kid". "Sorry, kid. I don't believe in fairy tales".
By now it's a trope that in a horror series, each movie will be less serious than the last if the series runs long enough. I know Universal greenlit a spoof version of Jaws 3 until Spielberg intervened and said he would end his work for the studio if that type of movie was released.
Hellraiser 2 Hellbound came out December 23rd 1988 Nightmare on Elm Street five what is released August 11th 1989
I think they should of stopped at 5 movies. Freddy's dead should of have the best bits of dream child and mix it. I think by the time Freddy's dead it was over extending and it would of been poetic because it would of ended in 1989.
You mentioned sequels to slashers, what if you did a video series ranking sequels of the big-time horror franchises against each other? Rank every Nightmare, Halloween, Friday, Chainsaw, Hellraiser, Childs Play ect against each other? Who had the best 2nd, 3rd, 7th installment? I don't think I have seen this done yet.
We did one with Tony on Hack the Movies on best Halloween 2 and we covered the entire Texas Chainsaw Massacre series and Tremors series to find the best and worst ones.
Great discussion but as always in these discussions I'm a bit biased 😃 💀 ☠️
Hellraiser Inferno got two and a half Stars Nightmare on Elm Street dream child got two and a half Stars Hellraiser Inferno got 5.4 / 10, Nightmare on Elm Street dream child got 5/10
was this filmed before the strike or are you crossing the picket line
I'm not in a guild
the 4th film was last great freddy sequel in my opionion, 5 had flaws, but wasn't complete crap, but 6 wooo boyyyyyyyy even have hard time getting thru that one just went over board with the humor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how they kept her hidden during the whole pregnancy... crazy. amanda that is. the crazy dudes just stashed her away and none of the staff noticed for the MONTHS until they found her with child? although in this one, she is giving birth with doctors around so... i dunno.
They didn't keep her for the entire pregnancy, just a weekend. Based on her get up she's catholic plus it was the 60s/70s so abortion wasn't an option