DIY Quilt Basting Spray - Q&A
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2016
- DIY Quilt Basting Spray - Q&A. Join Kim Jamieson-Hirst of Chatterbox Quilts as she provides more information on her DIY quilt basting spray. Kim answers questions about what type of bottle to use for this spray and other ones about the Multi-Purpose Quilt Spray.
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Hi Kim. I made this spray last night and tested it out on a muslin 12 x 12 square with cotton batting. I followed your recipe to the "T" and it worked great! I noticed in previous comments that some were asking for suggestions on where to do the spraying and how to protect the area around the quilt being sprayed. I'm getting ready to sandwich a lap quilt on my dining room table, and I plan to use a cheap plain plastic shower curtain to protect my table and the floor below. You can usually get these for about $2 each and can re-use. Thanks for this recipe. I've got 2 cans of 505 that I've been hoarding for about 2 years (SO expensive), but I rarely use because I don't really have anyplace to lay out a full quilt outside. I'm really excited to have this new product. Thanks again! :-)
Glad you had such good results, Gail! Thanks for the tip about protecting your surface - this is a great idea. I just whipped up a new batch last week to use on a project and made it with vodka and gave it a lovely lemon scent. Although it is a bit wet, at least it isn't sticky, and I don't cough as I use it.
You could always pour your quilting spray into an empty jar after you finish using it. This way you can shake it up real good before you put it back into the spray bottle when ready to use again. Maybe it would be a good idea to rinse out the spray bottle after you empty it. Just a thought!
Great idea, Rita, and I actually have some in a Mason jar, since my spray bottle didn't quite handle the batch I made. I like this idea to keep it in the jar and then put it in the spray bottle when you need to use it. Thanks for that idea!
I'm so glad I found this and the other video on You Tube. Thank you so much for recording the video. I live in a small space and this will be perfect. I'm going to tell all my quilt guild members about this.
Thank you for sharing. I have made this basting spray and love it. Made some extra and stored it in a glass bottle and then used it after about two weeks and it was fine. I have washed the quilt I basted and it came out fluffy and soft washing out all the residue.
Regards
Amelia from Botswana
I'm loving Kim's liquid fabric glue. I'm a new quilter and it's making it so easy to quilt as I sew.
Thank you sew much, Maria ;--)
Kudos to a Canadian who came up with a recipe for adhering our fabric pieces!
Kim your video is an answer to my prayer. I came across many, many videos on how to make homemade spray baste for quilts but I couldn't find any on HOW TO APPLY the homemade spray baste. Then I discovered you, after much time searching the internet. I am thrilled with your very clear instruction and demonstration. I now have successfully used the homemade spray baste using your method. This is a major breakthrough for me discovering you and your method. Many thanks Elisabetta.
I used your spray on two quilts. It works fabulously. I use a substantial amount, almost soaking my fabric. Then I let it dry overnight. It does not come apart, it is a strong hold, definitely not temporary. Highly recommend your recipe.
Thanks for the tip and the videos Kim! I'm excited to try this on all quilt sizes!
You're welcome, Gayle! I'm sure you're going to love using it.
You are brilliant. I make mostly wall hangings and it perfect!!!
Hi I note your comment was 2 years ago and I imagine your wall hangings are not washed. Has the spray affected the fabric over the two year period?
So far I have made 2 quilts with this and I am just thrilled. My quilts are so much better I love how this stuff works. Shannon Summers/
Glad that it worked out well for you, Shannon. A lot easier than basting with pins, for sure!
Omg LIFE CHANGING.
Thank you Kim, love your videos.
You're welcome.
Thank you for the update and really glad it doesn't get stuck in the machine when sewing!
You're welcome, Deborah.
I just found your first vid and saw your revisited one. glad to know that there is no smell or other messy things after 6 months. I lie in extreme dry but I'm transplanted from TX humidity. I will say that in the deep humidity states anything that has flour in it is not recommended for fabric, if it will not be washed right away. Many may have seen that glue basting is OK if you are going to wash it out quickly, bc of insects who love to chew the glue, and yes I had starched some fabric and placed it on a shelf, left it through a summer and found that I had bugs in my sewing room and into the fabric. I was horrified as I had to clean out the whole room and did every shelf and inspected in the untouched fabrics. what a mess and expense. TY
Yay, no more having to worry about my parrots breathing in bad stuff. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much. I am making a queen size quilt, two of them actually, and I have a very small house and I live in the desert there's no nice soft grass to lay these quilts out. I hesitate to use a spray adhesive because of the ventilation issue. I'm heading out right now to go and get the ingredients to make this. Thank you thank you thank you!
Hi: You are so welcome! Let me know how it goes.
This sounds like a great method. It inspired to to try using a store brought liquid starch and it worked! When I run out of the store brand liquid starch, I'm definitely trying this one.
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Liquid Starch works better and you have a recipe on the bottle to make light, medium and heavy spray. I use this regularly when I sew the quilt top. Never thought to use it for basting though, LOL.
Thanks Kim! All the spray adhesives are expensive. And yes it gums up my needles. 😬 Quilt On !! 😍😘
Yes to both comments, Rose! This homemade spray is so much better.
Hair spray works just fine. You can get the large gel spray bottle at Sally's for hardly anything. I then take an empty bottle and put it 1/2 full with distilled water and 1/2 spray hair gel. Works just fine and washes out. I get the odorless spray gel and I put my favorite essential oil in it for scent.
I hadn't heard of this, Carol. Might have to try this too! Thanks for the information and for watching.
Kudos and Respect!
Darn I’m a day too late! Just finished pin basting a large quilt. BUT I ran out of safety pins to baste my table runner so I had to use straight pins which I hate to use especially when my sewing “monitor” (my cat Dixie) sits next to my sewing machine while I sew.
First thing tomorrow morning, I’m going to make your recipe, remove the pins from my table runner and spray away. THANK YOU 🙏
Thank you for responding. May give this a try.
Definitely give it a try, Julie. It works really well :)
Great video, I will definitely try this! 505 can be so expensive and it is not good breathing in the fumes! Thank you so much! 💕🌸🧵✂️💕
You're welcome, Barbara.
Thank you!! I've used the spray you make from Elmer's but my sprayer doesn't want to spray anymore. Glad to see you can use this in a regular sprayer. I would not want a sprayed quilt lay around though only because I live in south Florida and the flour would attract roaches - it's food to them!! But that's incentive to get it done and washed!! LOL!! Thanks again
Hi Marlene: I know what you mean about attracting bugs. Although I don't always love the dry climate in Calgary, I love how we have very few bugs. Yuck! :)
i don' have the roach prolem in NE but have lived in FL i would think that the rubbing alcohol in it would be a deterrent. especially if you don't add any essential oil to it. but if you did you could add a peppermint as that alo deters roaches.
Thank you so very much!
Hi Donna: You are very welcome :) Glad you are enjoying the videos.
Hello, I use for years only spray starch for basting my quilts. I use it at every size of quilts it works great. Spray starch only on the batting, not on the fabrics. Well iron the quilt top and the backing on the batting and your sandwitch is perfect for quilting. Very important quilting is also easier because the quilt slips better.
Grettings from Germany
Hi Petra: Thanks for that information. I know that some quilters struggle with allergies when they use any kind of aerosol product, so this is why I think the homemade quilt spray would be helpful for those individuals. I could see how spray starch would help with the slippery part of quilting :)
Benutzt du eine bestimmte Sprühstärke? Ich finde die Idee genial!
Hi thankyou for this will gi e it a try. Iwas wondering, 4 those that their mix would not thicken even when cooled. I wonder if they may have accidently used corn flour instead? When it has been boiled it gets thin again.
I think maybe too much liquid might also be the issue, Ina, depending on the climate they are in.
Just watched both videos, I am ready to try this method. Is there any problem with overspray getting onto the floor (wood) or carpeting? I am going to keep the mixture in a jar and only put smaller amounts in the spray bottle. I think this will help when shaking it up after it has been sitting for awhile and also keeping the spray tube clear. Joanne
Hi Joanne: I think that it is a great idea to keep the mixture in a jar and only put it in the spray bottle when you are actually going to use it. Great tip - I hadn't thought of this. I always spray over parchment paper to avoid over spraying onto the floor or other fabrics, just as I would when using any type of adhesive spray product.
I will certainly give it a go with this natural product. Thanks for sharing.👏🏻😀
You're welcome.
I might try is for floating machine embroidery.
Thank you for responding to my question of bugs. Im in Florida in US and bugs are a big problem. Im willing to make up a batch and try it in asmall art quilt and see what happens. I am so allergic to the strong store bought sprays. Thank you so much.
Ah yes, you have the warmer weather, but also the bugs :) I think it's a good idea to try it out on a small project and see how it works. It is definitely nicer to be able to use this spray rather than the aerosol ones, especially for allergy sufferers. I hope it works well for you, Marian.
Regarding bugs -- Probably what I'll do is 1) Wash cotton quilts right after they are done. (I'm doing this now.) 2) Thread baste non-cotton quilts that aren't washable. Might not be ideal for others, but should work for me. (Am just learning about thread basting.)
Amazing idea. I am making my first ever quilt as a tshirt quilt for my graduating senior. I fused the tshirts with some very thin interfacing and added sashing and cornerstones. I believe it stated on your last video that basting sprays don’t work on interfacing. I’m so nervous as I can’t make a mistake as the shirts are irreplaceable. I thought I would try it on a scrap tshirt and use all natural batting. Any other advice?
I haven't tried this spray on t-shirts or interfacing so your idea to try it on a scrap t-shirt with cotton batting is what I would suggest. Keeping my fingers crossed that it works for you.
I am working on a queen size quilt and was wondering how you manage bigger quilts with this method since they need to be ironed to adhere? I have previously laid my quilts out on the floor to spray baste with 505 but I cannot iron on my vinyl flooring.
Hi Su: I would suggest that you spray and iron the quilt sandwich as section at at time. If you can put your ironing surface in front of a table then you can use the table to support the portion of the quilt that has been basted. Hope this helps.
What sprayer are you using, have seen others that won't spray only stream, although I wonder if their mixture was too thick and if so can you just add more alcohol to make thinner?
I just use a generic type of sprayer. I am trying to source out a sprayer that works well for the spray so I can advise my viewers on it.
I look forward to trying your formula for the basting spray. Quilting chemistry! I have avoided the commercial basting sprays because of their numerous warnings: noxious fumes, flammability, need to protect surroundings. Question: I want to make a heat-resistant heat pad. Have you used your basting spray on a layer of Insul-Bright?
I'm not sure as I've never used it on this type of material. It typically works best between regular batting and cotton fabric.
Can I use this on blocks that I am going to embroider? Will it gum up my needles or adversely affect my machine ? My plan is to adhere the top to the batting, then embroider a design. When I am finished with all my blocks and have joined them, adhere this to the backing and sew the backing on to the quilt. Will this work?
No, as it isn't tacky, it won't gum up your needle and I know several people who use this product for just this purpose.
Hi Kim , I was wondering, as the basting spray is a bit sticky and you have to iron it dry, could the spray be used as a glue or starch to prepare applique pieces?
I haven't tried it for that type of appliqué, but it might work. Give it a try and let me know. :)
I'm wondering if this would work for appliques. I have been using paper backed fused products and then find gumming problems when I try to sew the applique.
Hi Barb: It would probably hold enough for you to stitch around the edges (are we talking fusible web appliqué?). Definitely no gumming up the needle with this spray. I typically use Wonder Under for my fusible web appliqué and don't find that I have issues with my needle.
Hello Kim! Me, again. I just can't say enough amazing things about this spray! Pure genius. Today, (I'm still quilting the borders) when I went to press the border dry after spraying it last night, the back side had some awful folds where I did not pull it taut. SO...I used my mister bottle (just plain water), sprayed the folds and finger pressed them flat before I took the iron to it. I use parchment paper to help keep my iron clean and I was able to get that fold out and the layers stayed stuck together. When I get ready to spray baste my next quilt--and this time it will be the WHOLE quilt instead of just the borders--Do you spray it in sections and smooth as you go? THANK YOU, Kim!
Hi Carole: I love it when my suggestions help out other quilters! As far as using the spray on a large quilt, it sort of depends on the size. If it is large, I would suggest doing it in sections, smoothing as you go - then you don't have a big damp quilt sandwich all over the place. You go, girl!
Kim....looking forward to using this method but I do have a question....can this be used on any fabric or just cotton?
Hi Sarah: I have only used it on cotton fabric and batting, so not sure about other fabrics. I think it would work on them, I'm just not sure if there might be a problem with staining. I would suggest trying it on a small sample first to see how/if it works.
Kim, How long do I "cook" the flour/salt/water mixture? Your recipe says until it thickens and is gooey. I have it on a medium heat and it is not thickening and even though I am stirring, it smells burnt.
Help. (It looks okay, just not thickening and the burnt smell doesn't seem right.) Happy New Year. I'm excited to try this.
Hi Carole: Okay, it doesn't get super thick when it is cooking - it gets thicker as it cools. Usually it's about 10 minutes or so, depending on your climate. It shouldn't smell burnt, really. You didn't put the rubbing alcohol in when it was cooking, did you? Hopefully it turned out alright, but if not, you might need to cook another batch. Good luck and let me know if you have more questions.
Okay...never mind. My husband and I figured it out. And guess what? The second time I didn't burn it and it works wonderfully and perfectly! This is SO much easier than trying to remove the safety pins as I quilt on my machine. I really like the "stiffness" and quilting the three layers is easier because of it. I noticed, too, that my chalk lines stay on longer. I am just thrilled with this! THANK YOU for posting this. My only "negative" comment would be to reduce the number of pages in the pdf file.
Good to hear that it all worked out okay, Carole. Interesting to hear that your chalk lines stay on longer - another extra benefit! Thanks for the comment about the pdf file - I think the larger type makes it easier for some of my subscribers to read ;)
thank you
You're welcome. I hope you enjoy the Multi-Purpose Quilt Spray.
love your spray thing can not wait to try it so please send me the recipe thanks
Hi Margaret: You can get the recipe for the Multi-Purpose Quilt Spray by going to bit.ly/2ofk4i6. Just enter the requested information and the Multi-Purpose Quilt Spray information will be emailed to you. Enjoy!
What is the largest quilt you have used this on. I'm thinking in terms of the ironing part. AND what is the LONGEST TIME you have left the spray in a quilt before quilting? I sometimes have several 505 basted and they can be left for a very long time.
I've used this on a lap size quilt - I don't usually do any bigger than that. To tell you the truth, the spray is still in the quilt (although it is now quilted), but it seems to hold for several months at the minimum. The only concern is attracting bugs, depending on the climate you live in. We have very few bugs here in Calgary due to the very dry climate.
Excellent. I love a homemade product which works as well as chemical manufactured. When you say flour, what type do you mean? Cornflour, general purpose? Thank you. Regards Alison
Hi Alison: I use just regular white wheat flour. It needs the gluten to become sticky.
I'm thinking that this spray would work on large quilts using the pool noodle method for sandwiching. Have you tried it ?
No, I haven't tried this yet as it works best when you press the layers together with your hand and then with an iron.
could you do a video on how to actually spray a larger quilt? Please? I am very interested
Hi Athena: Thanks for the suggestion. I will add this to my list of videos to do, but it will be a few months before you see it "live" on my channel due to our production schedule. I think it would be something of benefit to other quilters too :)
Please!!!
I love the idea of this and applaud your experimentation, but I am hesitate to try the basting spray. Alcohol is a solvent, and in some circumstances a color remover. What is the alcohol for here?
The rubbing alcohol doesn't seem to affect fabric colour at all. I'm no chemist, but I think it helps to thin the flour mixture and to keep the spray from becoming mouldy. Hundreds of quilters have had very successful results with it, but if you are hesitant to use it on a "real" project, I would suggest that you make a small quilt sandwich and see how it works.
Since this wets the fabrics.....what happens to the fabrics is they were not prewashed before making the quilt? Will they shrink irregularly and then not a nice outcome?
Thanks for any answers on this!
I haven't had any issues with shrinkage and I do not prewash my fabrics. Think of it as similar to starching your fabric or using a starch alternative.
Do you have to iron it - will it stick if we don't iron it but just hand press
You don't have to iron it, Jocelyne, but you will have to allow it to air dry so it will stick together. Ironing it helps to adhere the spray to the batting and dry it too.
Has anyone tried wall basting with this technique? Especially with a large quilt?
I am going to try this method....I would like to know where you usually do this process? On a table, your ironing surface, outdoors? What works best for where to spray it and do you lay it out, fold back the top and then spray? Would it work to spray the batting and then smooth the top or back to the batting? Thank You!
Hi Brenda: I usually just do this in my studio - there are no fumes, although there is a medicinal smell. I usually do it over a protected surface - freezer paper or parchment paper works. I usually spray the back of the fabric top and backing and then sandwich the quilt together. You could spray the batting instead if you wish. The main thing is to do an even coat and iron or let it air dry.
my one question is that even though you cook the mixture with flour doesn't that become rancid at all in the future?
Hi Julie: No, it doesn't - at least not for quite awhile as the alcohol content in it helps to keep this from happening. I always suggest that you wash this or any other applied product out of your quilt.
I use Clover White Marking Pen to mark my quilt. Any suggestions on how to keep my quilt markings from getting wet, which would remove them.
Hi Wendy: Ooh, that's a tough one as you will be adding moisture and heat to use the homemade quilt basting spray, neither of which will work for the Clover White Marking Pen. I would suggest that you use an alternate marking method if you want to use this basting spray. Not an ideal answer, but unless you want to mark your quilt after it is basted, I don't think there is any alternative.
Good question! I wonder if there would be a downside to marking the quilt after it is basted. (I also consider myself a beginner.)
wendy hi, I never tried this method before, but I would wait until the spray basting dries and then mark it for quilting.
Followed your instructions to the t, but for some reason my spray does not baste the fabric like you show in your video. In fact the layers separate quite easily just from handling the quilt sandwich. Any idea what went wrong?
Hi Alex: Not sure what the problem would be. I would double check the amounts of the water, rubbing alcohol, etc. to be sure that you got everything right in that area. If so, I would try it again reducing the amount of water a bit to see if that might be the problem. Let me know how it goes.
possibly the batting is poly instead of cotton; I read that others have experienced this non-sticking issue with Poly batting.
What batting are you using. I’ve not had luck ironing directly on my batting
I recommend using the basting spray on 100% cotton or cotton blend battings You don't spray it directly on the batting - you spray it on the fabric and then iron the fabric to the batting. Be sure to press it down first by hand to get it to "stick" before ironing or allowing it to air dry.
I made this spray. Only one problem that after ironing my quilt was flat but I want a fluffy one. How to achieve that structure ?
Just to clarify - you use the spray before you quilt your project. Once you quilt your project, you should see more texture and this will also change once you wash your quilt.
Kim, can the spray be purchased anywhere? I know it's DIY but I'd pay for a premade bottle or two just to save myself the hassle.
No, this is strictly an out-of-the-kitchen product. It only takes about 15 minutes to make so not really hard to make at all and common ingredients.
What kind of flour do you use, All purpose or Self Rising? thanks
Hi Deloris: I use just regular all purpose flour. Let me know how you enjoy using this spray. :)
Chatterboxquilts would it be alright to use self raising flour though, if I were out of all purpose?
Hi Preethi: I don't think it would make much of a difference - it's just to create the "glue" part of the spray, but I couldn't really confirm this :)
Kim, have you ever had a problem with the alcohol changing color of fabrics?
Hi! I haven't, however I would be careful if I were using it on dark or red batiks or hand dyed fabrics that hadn't yet been washed. When I'm in doubt, I always do a small sample and leave it until it is dry and then you can see what happens.
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Have you encountered any issues with the alcohol affecting the colors of the quilt? I know alcohol can bleach some colors.
I haven't had any problems with this. Sometimes you might get a bit of flour mark on your fabric but this comes off easily with water.
I'm gluten intolerant, don't want to spray wheat all over my quilt! Do you think this would work with cornstarch instead of wheat flour?
I haven't tried it but I think it might. I would try it and see.
This don't work too well for me, I am in a really hot and humid climate. I have to buy the cans......:(
Does this work for hand quilting?
Hi Jill: I haven't tried it for hand quilting. It does make the fabric stiffer, so might be more difficult to get your needle through it. I would suggest trying it on a small quilt sandwich to see if it will work for that application. Good luck and let me know how it goes :)
I boiled this product for 30 minutes following the recipe given and it never turned gelatinous. How long does this process take? Should I still add the alcohol anyway?
Hi Cheryl: Sorry you are having problems. The mixture really thickens as it cools. Hopefully this happened for you. If it didn't, I would suggest you start from scratch and try again. I've made this several times and while it doesn't thicken up a lot when cooking, it does as it cools. Let me know if you are still having problems.
Im having the same problem. I boiled and stirred for what seemed an age and it did get thick but not gooey. Now I understand that the gooeyness comes as it cools. I will give it another go.
mine does not get gooey either. I have made two batches now and both did not really thicken. I know when making gravy, you need fat to make it thicken, but obviously we do not want that here. I even added more flour to one batch. I wonder what corn starch would do?
And if I see that I have a lot of leftover, I just soak some of my stash, and iron them mediately, for future use.
Good Idea!
Could one use corn starch instead of flour?
Hi Nancy; I am not sure about substituting corn starch for the flour. You may have to adjust the liquid quantities in the mixture.
Have you or anyone else ever considered adding some type of fragrance? If so, I'm wondering what would work best.
JB: I have thought about this but haven't tried it. I would think that essential oils might be the way to go. Let me know how this works out if try this.
I would think that a fragrance like an oil base would not go good with the fabric.
I use my Young Living Essential Oils. I put them into a misting bottle with distilled water. I use Lavender and Lemon
what is the alcohol you put in it?
It is Isopropyl rubbing alcohol or an alternate version uses vodka. Did you download the free recipe and information? You can get it at www.chatterboxquilts.com/multipurpose-quilt-spray-freebie.
Do you still use this method? What size spray bottle is needed?
Yes, I absolutely do! I use various spray bottles so can't really give a size. Whatever doesn't fit in the spray bottle I keep in a Mason jar and just shake and refill when needed.
I presume that to use a spray one would have to use cotton batting?
Yes, I haven't tried it on anything other than 100% or 80/20 blend batting.
@@Chatterboxquilts Thanks
I was wondering if the flour attracts insects to get into the quilt and eat the flour. Like moths get into wardrobes.
That's exactly what I was going to say. To add, except for the rubbing alcohol, that is the old flour and water paste used to paste wallpaper to the wall. One must wash those quilts after quilting and before giving them away, especially if you live in the South.
I’m going to make this spray because the one you buy in a can smells toxic.
It is. The gas used to get it out is not good. You should only use it in a well aerated area or outside
Yes, quilts need to be washed if ANY kind of starch or natural "edible" ingredients are used. Unfortunately, bugs LOVE starch & so you want to ensure they're not invited to dine in your quilt storage area. If you "inherit" or come across older quilts, you want to wash it or send it out for professional cleaning. Get advice before cleaning a prized antique quilt, of course.
You are absolutely right, Karen! We want to give our quilts the best chance of surviving for a few years at least ;)
I was going to say that it needs to be washed otherwise it would attacked moths.
Attract not attacked
put 2 large tablespoons of alcohol (clear one), and keep it in the fridge
Have you tried this? I don't usually keep it in the fridge because I thought it might get clumpy.
Yes, I did it all the time that I did starch at home. I think the alcohol prevent it from being clumpy.
Thanks for getting back to me with this tip.
That horrible moment when you realize you had been keeping that bottle of vodka to use as spray basting.