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I like this content because it's more like. "Hey itested these and here are my suggestions" then "I found this epic build online and this is what happend lol". Good work!
I know this is a bit off topic, but bro thank you for the scooming guide! I had pretty crappy RNG for a whole week+, but today, TODAY, I finally landed a WEX 2, spare shot 2 charm with a lvl 3 slot! Thanks again man and you get an automatic like! Keep up the vids! XD
wex 2 and spare 2 together? O.O wtf, congrats bro! and np, thanks for leaving a comment on a new video rather than the older melding one, pushes this video to do better since the melding one got its fair share already ^^ I still need couple more demi-god charms so hopefully i can get them before 3.0 potentially makes it impossible :p
this was super informative, and i really appreciate how you'll venture away from the meta sometimes with QoL and other skills that really end up making the build shine! Even if i dont make one of these builds exactly, i still learned alot just from listening to your analysis on the weapons and their stats. I've been a fan since the Nioh days and just wanted to say youve been doing a great job with the MH Rise content!
I really like how you give out control or move tips for these build videos, gives us LS mains who want to try out other weapons a clutch to learn other weapons so we don't trip people as much.
hehe yah, figured since i gimped out on wpn guides i throw some tips so people can move around weapons smoother. but only for the first video of a wpn i cover for the first time. subsequent ones will get to the builds faster, i can spend more time showing comparisons or dps test.
If we are talking about potential 3.0 upgrades, can we have a shout out to Teostra swagaxe? I am like 80% sure it could be meta if we hit white sharpness or get close enough to gem into it. The already preset stupidly high blast combined with the element phial alone already melts monsters, and if they add the consistency of raw damage to it, we can chop-explode our ways through the speedrunning tiers
An easy tell on what weapons are getting an upgrade is if the weapons name changes from a numbered name to a unique name it usually means thats it for the weapon evolution line. Based on that i think the upgrades for 3.0 for swaxe will be ibushi narwa rajang and the 3 elder dragons
Nice video. However, you cannot fail to mention the sets with Diablos SA.. The Diablos SA set with Bludgeoner is much more consistent than Tigrex set. (also playing the Tigrex SA without a protective polish is not consistent..) Before I also thought Tigrex SA was better, but I changed my mind. Now the Diablos SA is better.
my tigrex set does have PP, and yah, i didn't include a blos build because it's a bit too similar to tigrex, and i only allocate so much time for these videos. example having a barioth ice build would be more important than blos. i scour jpn/west speedrun videos to see what weapons are relevant when making these "meta" vids, and most people didn't use blos over tiggy. more so, element got faster times usually than both, and was used more often. as mentioned in the vid, its a good chance blos gets another upgrade next update, so to avoid potential duplicates, i left it out. unless there's a shift in usage online, from videos, or even forums, rex was the better pick for the video. I'm sure blos is better for an average player due to minds eye and not losing much dmg from hitting non-weakspots. but that's where the potential faster times are from, not dmg or exhaust, as even an atk 7/crit eye 7 bludgeoner wex 3 blos (impossible) can't outdps my tigrex build on efr. in fact even with white sharp if you had a god charm you would be hard pressed to match tigrex. so blos is only advantage is coming from minds eye, and against weakspots you'd deal less dmg, and exhaust.
@@PWARGaming It is one thing if we talk about Speedrun and another thing if we talk about Meta and consistent .. Look ... I have used your Rex set before, but with a variant: Crit boost 3, Atk 5. And since this is a speedrun set it is assumed that you always hit the week spot, so my variant does more damage. But then again .. I don't use this set anymore because it is less consistent than the set you can do with the Blos. With the SA Diablos you can do: Crit.eye 4, Atk 3, Crit.boost 3, Wex 3, Bludgeoner 3, speed sharpening 3, Rapid morph 3, Evade extender 2, Mind's eye 1, stun resist. 1 with 293 Atk and 13% base affinity! (with your rex you get to 6% base affinity ..). Or for Speedrun vs No Elder dragons with SA Diablos you can do: Crit.eye 7, Crit.boost 3, Wex 3, Bludgeoner 3, Stamina thief 3, Rapid morph 3, Mind's eye 2, Evade extender 2 !! Now you can go to the training area and make your own considerations .. but I'm sure you have already done so .. If you want to speedrun maybe the Rex is better (but not always) but you have written "META" in the title.
i did something similar with tigrex swaxe but without protective polish i got ff skills: CE+7 AB+4 WEX+3 CB+3 SpeedSharpening+3 RM+3 got a charm with RM+2 EE+2 2-2-0. so EE is a Bonus i guess.
Drache is dragon translated to German. In this case "ch" is pronounced kinda the same way as the "j" in the spanish language, if you speak Spanish, that may help you. Greetings from a german fellow
yes, i mentioned it when i brought up rath build. barioth is top tier for ice, but again next update i expect elders to get an upgrade so doara may turn out better, so not to waste your mats, i'd hold off building ice/thunder till next update
My play style i use narga, im super aggressive super evasive, my run times are slightly longer than 5 mins but hey few dmg difference a hit no big deal. I have allot of comforts on my build, MT lv 3, latent lv1, ce lv 7, cb lv 3, ee lv2, morph lv3, Bub Dance lv 3, stun res lv 3, flinch free lv 1, dive lv1 and lure lv 1
whoa nice, depends on the build. for example you can make the max dps version i showed with the tigrex build when comparing its efr to my build at 6:50 when i say 3-2-0 for charms, it's really just 2-2-0, as most melee builds don't need a lv3 slot outside of handicraft, which most get from armor. i did block the armor pieces with the text by accident, but its kaiser - vaik - kaiser - anjanath - ingot greaves. congrats on max deeps tiggy
no, it got no change at all. ibushi is better now. but the new valstrax one is better and competitive to ibushi, altho likely better just due to having element phial for faster amp state
actually that charm should work as 3-2-1 slot charm (really just need 2-2-1 since lv3 is useless for most melee builds) just means you need to have a total of 2 skills worth, from a builds decoration list, to work. so if the decos need at least 1 tenderizer, then your wex 1 + lv2 slot would work the same function as a 321/221 charm, for budget version. since the 321/221 would essentially just be wex 2 + lv1 slot, if it needed 2 tenderizer jewels, or 1 tenderizer + quickswitch jewel.
no, maximum for s rank skills is 2. rapid morph isn't S rank, so you can go all the way. same on something like quicksheath. I've gotten 2 recently that i posted on twitter, with a lv2/3 slot still
its solid. but yah, teo is competitive, and likely to get a rarity 7 upgrade, so it'll likely outperform bazel. certainly proc blast more which is better for rampage quest. power phial IS strong, but also weak, so unless you can land those powered up states often, elemental/other phials will just be more consistent on average. sooner you get to those extra hits, the more dps you'll do, and its not like bazel has insane raw or sharpness to outweigh those odds against it. once teo gets 200+ raw upgrade, it'll be better, less bazel gets a 4th upgrade, which is...not likely.
between the swaxes? different phials = different colors. if you mean compared to your game or something, i use a filter for recording so my colors are slightly off from in-game.
as of recent, that's what I've seen speedrunners use. i do remember them going triple, but i think i only saw that against narwa's belly. i think the advantage to the one i shown is you can mix in hops more frequently to readjust rather than commit to the triple. almost all do zsd before the monster gets up as well, so, combo in vid 1-2x then zsd, if amped, against a downed monster. you wanna zsd at the end in case they enrage and roar you can ignore it then soaring rather than soaring too early and get knocked back by the roar.
rip. yah the tough thing about the talismans is unless you know what makes other weapons good for their builds, you could toss a good charm without knowing. anything with 3-2 slot charm, with lv2 worth skills i generally keep. you just never know what future build might use something, for meta or otherwise.
Damn it i always do the full combo and surprise ! Surprise! My combo freaking missed because it got up quickly or i misinterpreted the monster moves via missed or i got hit 😔😔😂😂😂 this what happens if your a jack of all trades and master on none😊😊😊😜😜😜 but I really want to main this weapon !!!!
i was maining tigrex gear b4 it was kewl just because i liked the aesthetics... now erebody using it and i dont feel special anymore... truely 1st world problems.
My problem with SA is that when im playing it its difficult for me to identified my weapon is in axe mode or switch mode.any tips ? because sometimes i get confused im in axe or sword mode.of course the animation action is different,but sometimes you forgot about it lol
you can look at the stance of your hunter. if its upright its sword mode. If not, most weapon's sword/axe mode can easily be distinguished. Go to training room and look at how sword and axe modes look like for the weapon you are using.
hmm didn't think about this. with rapid morph lv3, it is a bit tough to input the buttons correctly fast exactly every time. some of the clips you'll see me do slow morph axe > sword mode, when i didn't mean to. so i think it's mainly gonna come down to muscle memory kinda thing, if anything. with all the bullcrap particle and crit effects going off in multi, it's gonna be hard to identified the stance your in reliable. if you feel you're jumbling up, use soaring wyvern or the gauge charge wirebug skill to reset. or just pause attacking for a second with a dodge. it's not like you're going for TA speedruns in multiplayer quest :p
hammer, sns, or db's. those are the easiest to get into i'd say. sns and db's are fast, whereas hammer is simple, which i have a weapon guide on in my channel. hunting horn is easy to get into as well, and lbg, for endgame, is easy and effective. any of those weapons will be easier than something like switch axe, charge blade, or gunlance, for example.
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6 Days Left Bros... O.O
I like this content because it's more like. "Hey itested these and here are my suggestions" then "I found this epic build online and this is what happend lol". Good work!
I know this is a bit off topic, but bro thank you for the scooming guide! I had pretty crappy RNG for a whole week+, but today, TODAY, I finally landed a WEX 2, spare shot 2 charm with a lvl 3 slot! Thanks again man and you get an automatic like! Keep up the vids! XD
wex 2 and spare 2 together? O.O wtf, congrats bro! and np, thanks for leaving a comment on a new video rather than the older melding one, pushes this video to do better since the melding one got its fair share already ^^
I still need couple more demi-god charms so hopefully i can get them before 3.0 potentially makes it impossible :p
this was super informative, and i really appreciate how you'll venture away from the meta sometimes with QoL and other skills that really end up making the build shine! Even if i dont make one of these builds exactly, i still learned alot just from listening to your analysis on the weapons and their stats. I've been a fan since the Nioh days and just wanted to say youve been doing a great job with the MH Rise content!
Definitely going to test the Tigrex and Rathalos Switch Axe builds. Keep up the good work.
I really like how you give out control or move tips for these build videos, gives us LS mains who want to try out other weapons a clutch to learn other weapons so we don't trip people as much.
hehe yah, figured since i gimped out on wpn guides i throw some tips so people can move around weapons smoother. but only for the first video of a wpn i cover for the first time. subsequent ones will get to the builds faster, i can spend more time showing comparisons or dps test.
be free LS mains, be free. Flinch free
I have the Narwa Swaxe. It's pretty good. Thinking it's gonna get OP with 3.0
same. right now zinogre is best, but narwa can get white too, has ele phial, and high element. only thing missing is some raw and it'll be sick
Hope so. Raw meta super boring.
@@PWARGaming An jewel slot wouldn't hurt either.
This vid makes me wanna pick up switch axe! Thanks for the tutorial as well
If we are talking about potential 3.0 upgrades, can we have a shout out to Teostra swagaxe? I am like 80% sure it could be meta if we hit white sharpness or get close enough to gem into it.
The already preset stupidly high blast combined with the element phial alone already melts monsters, and if they add the consistency of raw damage to it, we can chop-explode our ways through the speedrunning tiers
I just got a rapid morph lvl3 charm with a level 2 and 3 decoration.
My wife didn't understand why I was crying so I came here.
Thanks for the help, so informative. I’ll be joining you swaxers.
An easy tell on what weapons are getting an upgrade is if the weapons name changes from a numbered name to a unique name it usually means thats it for the weapon evolution line. Based on that i think the upgrades for 3.0 for swaxe will be ibushi narwa rajang and the 3 elder dragons
0:08 great fast foward gameplay bruh
Damn never thought I would hear Ace Combat music for a Monster Hunter video, but here we are
What’s the name of the outro song? Do you know by chance?
Killer guide my man!!
Its a sub from me, love the content! Looking forward to a vid on 3.0 SA, especially Ibushi :)
Excellent Builds
Wish I could add my build pic. Was wanting some criticism lol
Needed this. Thanks. So confused about power or elemental so just end using tigrex, barioh, and almudron most of the time.
I feel like I’m the only guy on this earth who appreciates Invincible Gambit more than that other thing 😂
It's pretty Awesome.
I always use the invincible gambit however it's definitely not meta. That's fine though I just like using my axe lol
Nice video.
However, you cannot fail to mention the sets with Diablos SA..
The Diablos SA set with Bludgeoner is much more consistent than Tigrex set.
(also playing the Tigrex SA without a protective polish is not consistent..)
Before I also thought Tigrex SA was better, but I changed my mind.
Now the Diablos SA is better.
my tigrex set does have PP, and yah, i didn't include a blos build because it's a bit too similar to tigrex, and i only allocate so much time for these videos. example having a barioth ice build would be more important than blos.
i scour jpn/west speedrun videos to see what weapons are relevant when making these "meta" vids, and most people didn't use blos over tiggy. more so, element got faster times usually than both, and was used more often. as mentioned in the vid, its a good chance blos gets another upgrade next update, so to avoid potential duplicates, i left it out. unless there's a shift in usage online, from videos, or even forums, rex was the better pick for the video.
I'm sure blos is better for an average player due to minds eye and not losing much dmg from hitting non-weakspots. but that's where the potential faster times are from, not dmg or exhaust, as even an atk 7/crit eye 7 bludgeoner wex 3 blos (impossible) can't outdps my tigrex build on efr. in fact even with white sharp if you had a god charm you would be hard pressed to match tigrex. so blos is only advantage is coming from minds eye, and against weakspots you'd deal less dmg, and exhaust.
@@PWARGaming It is one thing if we talk about Speedrun and another thing if we talk about Meta and consistent ..
Look ... I have used your Rex set before, but with a variant: Crit boost 3, Atk 5. And since this is a speedrun set it is assumed that you always hit the week spot, so my variant does more damage.
But then again .. I don't use this set anymore because it is less consistent than the set you can do with the Blos.
With the SA Diablos you can do: Crit.eye 4, Atk 3, Crit.boost 3, Wex 3, Bludgeoner 3, speed sharpening 3, Rapid morph 3, Evade extender 2, Mind's eye 1, stun resist. 1 with 293 Atk and 13% base affinity!
(with your rex you get to 6% base affinity ..).
Or for Speedrun vs No Elder dragons with SA Diablos you can do: Crit.eye 7, Crit.boost 3, Wex 3, Bludgeoner 3, Stamina thief 3, Rapid morph 3, Mind's eye 2, Evade extender 2 !!
Now you can go to the training area and make your own considerations .. but I'm sure you have already done so ..
If you want to speedrun maybe the Rex is better (but not always) but you have written "META" in the title.
@@gabmar14 Can you share me your build ?
@@khamanh4540 no bc he’s lying
6:18 no it won't get an upgrade with Apex Dio. Mizu weapons didn't get an upgrade with its apex.
1:03 I literally have the same charm except instead of diversion it has poison attack and instead of 1 single slot it has 3 single slots.
Whats your opinion on the valstrax swaxe vs ibushi?
i did something similar with tigrex swaxe but without protective polish
i got ff skills:
CE+7
AB+4
WEX+3
CB+3
SpeedSharpening+3
RM+3
got a charm with RM+2 EE+2 2-2-0. so EE is a Bonus i guess.
Thanks 😉
So was there no 3.0 switch axe video?
...Sauce on the Dragon Milkies?
Drache is dragon translated to German. In this case "ch" is pronounced kinda the same way as the "j" in the spanish language, if you speak Spanish, that may help you. Greetings from a german fellow
Phlegmy ‘H’ for us English folks
What are the changes you'd say for 3.0?
What about Amber Hoarfrost? I saw a speedrunner use it with 5x ice boost, seemed nice
yes, i mentioned it when i brought up rath build. barioth is top tier for ice, but again next update i expect elders to get an upgrade so doara may turn out better, so not to waste your mats, i'd hold off building ice/thunder till next update
@@PWARGaming sweet thanks for the pointers bro 👍
My play style i use narga, im super aggressive super evasive, my run times are slightly longer than 5 mins but hey few dmg difference a hit no big deal.
I have allot of comforts on my build, MT lv 3, latent lv1, ce lv 7, cb lv 3, ee lv2, morph lv3, Bub Dance lv 3, stun res lv 3, flinch free lv 1, dive lv1 and lure lv 1
Hi good video and the second song is Tekken 7 ?
the bgm? yes. tekken 4 specifically ruclips.net/video/S5RUqHIFQ60/видео.html
@@PWARGaming Thank you
Was like "sweet I got everything for the tigrex build... oh wait..." notices the atk boost 3 tali... fuuuck
Thoughts on Bludgeoner + ME Rajang Axe? I've been playing with it and the hits are the numbers are still decent throughout yellow sharpness.
What should I run if I have a lvl 3 morph talisman but it’s only got 2,2,0
I want
Give me
Now
Lol
whoa nice, depends on the build. for example you can make the max dps version i showed with the tigrex build when comparing its efr to my build at 6:50
when i say 3-2-0 for charms, it's really just 2-2-0, as most melee builds don't need a lv3 slot outside of handicraft, which most get from armor. i did block the armor pieces with the text by accident, but its kaiser - vaik - kaiser - anjanath - ingot greaves. congrats on max deeps tiggy
I found a rarity 7 charm with 2 morphing and 2 dragon attack
Yes swag axe is life since 3U
I don’t use swaxe but ima still leave a comment for algorithm sake
now that update 3 is out, is the fall drache better than the ibushi swaxe now ?
no, it got no change at all. ibushi is better now. but the new valstrax one is better and competitive to ibushi, altho likely better just due to having element phial for faster amp state
Is Tigrex still better than Diablo in 3.0?
People be sleepin on bludgeoner diablos swaxe with stamina thief max wex crit eye 6 crit boost 2. Its doin wonders for me so far
what are the arrows at for example 7:37 pointing towards something? how do i get these
settings > game settings > 2nd option called targeting arrow. just shows you the direction monster is at
Budget build needs 3-2-1 charm and after ~200hrs the best I have is a Wex1 with a 2 and a 1 slot -_- feelsbadman
I have thrown away 3 2 1 slot talismans cause they have crap like free meal wide range or master mounter leap of faith or jump master
@@xxomega702buzzalini8 don't sleep on free meal. Not a dps talent but it feels real good when you drink a mega demon drug and still have 5/5
actually that charm should work as 3-2-1 slot charm (really just need 2-2-1 since lv3 is useless for most melee builds) just means you need to have a total of 2 skills worth, from a builds decoration list, to work.
so if the decos need at least 1 tenderizer, then your wex 1 + lv2 slot would work the same function as a 321/221 charm, for budget version. since the 321/221 would essentially just be wex 2 + lv1 slot, if it needed 2 tenderizer jewels, or 1 tenderizer + quickswitch jewel.
the god charm with rapid 3 is impossible to get the maximum on a skill is 2?
no, maximum for s rank skills is 2. rapid morph isn't S rank, so you can go all the way. same on something like quicksheath. I've gotten 2 recently that i posted on twitter, with a lv2/3 slot still
@@PWARGaming i was just curious this wasnt an attack or something thanks for clarifying :)
so then what is your thoughts on the beezle switch? i use that for most of my hunts and it looks like its doing well. but is it not worth using?
If you're going for a Blast build, Teostra Arx is better than Bazel Sw.Axe
its solid. but yah, teo is competitive, and likely to get a rarity 7 upgrade, so it'll likely outperform bazel. certainly proc blast more which is better for rampage quest. power phial IS strong, but also weak, so unless you can land those powered up states often, elemental/other phials will just be more consistent on average. sooner you get to those extra hits, the more dps you'll do, and its not like bazel has insane raw or sharpness to outweigh those odds against it.
once teo gets 200+ raw upgrade, it'll be better, less bazel gets a 4th upgrade, which is...not likely.
@@PWARGaming awesome, thank you. Ill try out the teo axe and see how it is.
My only critic is you tend to flip flop between ZR/R2 a few times in the video. I had to keep pausing to sort out what you mean.
wait how are your attacks different color?
between the swaxes? different phials = different colors. if you mean compared to your game or something, i use a filter for recording so my colors are slightly off from in-game.
I only have 2 Switch axe skill slots 2 and 3. What am I missing to get the third?
so is it not worth doing overhead-morph double-triple? just do like you said overhead-morph-double-morph back repeat?
as of recent, that's what I've seen speedrunners use. i do remember them going triple, but i think i only saw that against narwa's belly. i think the advantage to the one i shown is you can mix in hops more frequently to readjust rather than commit to the triple.
almost all do zsd before the monster gets up as well, so, combo in vid 1-2x then zsd, if amped, against a downed monster. you wanna zsd at the end in case they enrage and roar you can ignore it then soaring rather than soaring too early and get knocked back by the roar.
Yay I have the god charm
My second favorite weapon next to longsword and bow
wow are you me?
Next Lance pls. :(
I had that perfect charm from save scumming and didn’t save 😭
rip. yah the tough thing about the talismans is unless you know what makes other weapons good for their builds, you could toss a good charm without knowing. anything with 3-2 slot charm, with lv2 worth skills i generally keep. you just never know what future build might use something, for meta or otherwise.
Damn it i always do the full combo and surprise ! Surprise! My combo freaking missed because it got up quickly or i misinterpreted the monster moves via missed or i got hit 😔😔😂😂😂 this what happens if your a jack of all trades and master on none😊😊😊😜😜😜 but I really want to main this weapon !!!!
soaring wyvern up, down (monster sneezes) and ooh just missed by a hair.. every time
Big PP Tigrex should have been named Big EP because it's an exhaust phial and not a power phial
... :D
do you play on switch or emulator
switch. all the sped up junk is simply from editing to fit stuff in a timely manner. same with the colors.
So I’m confused. If the SA doesn’t crit what’s the point of crit eye or crit boost?
i was maining tigrex gear b4 it was kewl just because i liked the aesthetics... now erebody using it and i dont feel special anymore... truely 1st world problems.
My problem with SA is that when im playing it its difficult for me to identified my weapon is in axe mode or switch mode.any tips ? because sometimes i get confused im in axe or sword mode.of course the animation action is different,but sometimes you forgot about it lol
you can look at the stance of your hunter. if its upright its sword mode. If not, most weapon's sword/axe mode can easily be distinguished. Go to training room and look at how sword and axe modes look like for the weapon you are using.
hmm didn't think about this. with rapid morph lv3, it is a bit tough to input the buttons correctly fast exactly every time. some of the clips you'll see me do slow morph axe > sword mode, when i didn't mean to. so i think it's mainly gonna come down to muscle memory kinda thing, if anything. with all the bullcrap particle and crit effects going off in multi, it's gonna be hard to identified the stance your in reliable.
if you feel you're jumbling up, use soaring wyvern or the gauge charge wirebug skill to reset. or just pause attacking for a second with a dodge. it's not like you're going for TA speedruns in multiplayer quest :p
@@PWARGaming thank you for understanding my problem lol
how come your Graphics looks better >.
Damn im second
You're kind of late on this video seeing how the meta is going to change in like 6 days.
i want see new monster new wep no reskin wep
"Drache" is german.
Got a rapidmorph3, 3-2-0. Don't even play SA that much. Give me all your hate, bois. The charm even have reload speed 2 for good measures.
Lol stop with this meta shit , just play with what you want shiw your skills and destroy them all !
R/ whoosh
Hol' up, that Ace Combat Zero music!
Im really bad at monster hunter, what weapon should i use?
hammer, sns, or db's. those are the easiest to get into i'd say. sns and db's are fast, whereas hammer is simple, which i have a weapon guide on in my channel. hunting horn is easy to get into as well, and lbg, for endgame, is easy and effective. any of those weapons will be easier than something like switch axe, charge blade, or gunlance, for example.
@@PWARGaming Just got a hammer and dual blades build, blades worked better for me!
Thanks man)