The Chapman ML-1 Pro Modern Baritone - 28 inches of madness
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- New video format - more like on-take-style. Let me know what you think!
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Let me know how you like the one-take-style video format with more homestudio ambience! I figured I could play more guitar instead of talking😅 EDIT NOTE: Today I further tried doing a proper setup and it improved the string action noticeably. The buzz is probably partly due to the big string gauge, it's just not a niner gauge on a strat. It needed much less relief than other guitars I found.
Satin finishes are my new fav! Just got my first satin finish guitar ( rgat62 ) & it such a smooth comfortability! Baritone is on my future guitar list! Keep on keeping on brother 🎸
Info always useful mate, talk away)
They also say that it can really bully it's way through mix. 😂😂😂
Now this beauty is mine and I am absolutely loving it! Thanks Soulhenge!
Actually this is not the one you bought! This one came from Thomann and went back because of the fretwork, the one you have was bought in December :)
2024 - still one of the best Baritone guitars on this planet. I own a Schecter C1 Apocalypse, ESP BB-600 and the EC-1000. All great Baritones but nothing compares to the Chapman. No idea how they can build such a great guitar for under 1k. Thanks for this video that made me buy this baby.
I regret selling it at some point. I switched to Baritone almost exclusively and currently play a Harley Benton 27" and I wish for an extra inch of scale and I noticed how LITTLE offer there is if you want a 28" scale with 24 frets...
video format is great !!!!
FIRST AND HOT DAMN SOME MEAN CHUNK RIFFS. Brilliant guitar!
you're fast becoming one of my favourite djentibois \m/
loved it man!
the BEAST !!!!
dude, thanks for this review, I was getting interested in this guitar
Awesome! I have the 25.5. I had a Gold Evertune installed and redid the electronics with Bare Knuckle Juggernauts in Gold Tyger with Black Hex Pole Screws. Tried out the Bare Knuckle 550K pot and it added even more clarity to the sound. These guitars are so good for the money and a great platform for upgrades.
I have installed a bare knuckle impulse into my 27 inch 7 string guitar but i kept the old pots in there. Should i consider swapping it? Does the clarity increase overall or just when rolling back the volume?
HateCreation Hey man, it adds more clarity to the volume pot when up at full and I love how it adds more spank to the split positions. If you want more clarity when rolling the pot back I would recommend a treble bleed mod. Lemme know if you have anymore questions ✌️
@@AmbushtheCabaret1 this already helps me! I wanted to add a coilsplit push pull knob, so i'll switch out the volume pot too. Thanks!
Whoa that sounds badass
Mega ! Hun am Febuar meng ML1 Modern Baritone krut, dei huet och 28 inches 🤘🤘🤘
Wtf!!!!! Sounds amazing!!!
..meh.
Sounds mean 🤘🏼
Nice Chapman man
I wish there were more 7 strings with longer than 27" scale. Really craving a 28" baritone but I'm so used to writing with a 7 string range rather than just the lower range that I'd miss it I think. Maybe I'll try one out if I go to a chapman retailer.
@alan wake I'm mostly in open tunings where I like having the full open range available. Typically its AEADead and I like having all of those strings available because of how I write
Pass on this as soon as I heard the fret buzz on because of the frets.
I would really want a Rivolta Mondata Baritone VII.
That guitar sounds SICK. I may need to look into a baritone now haha.
It changed my life :D
You know you're doing a good job rewiewing a guitar when you make someone buying it ! :')
(Yeah I've just ordered it because of you, I'll thank you later mate)
Gotta love my 20" baritone... Haha, good save tho with the Paul David's like transition :D
Maybe the guitar was in b-stock just because of the flaws you mentioned. But it's got some fat toanz!
Love the tone. Any plans to demo the standard version of this one? Curious to hear if it's worth the 579 usd. Or if I'm better off waiting on another batch of the harley Benton amarok baritones and shipping it from europe
Sounds great man! Great playing 🔥
Sounds like a great guitar. Shame about the buzzing on the frets but nothing that cant be fixed. Look forward to hearing more stuff with it.
My problem with a baritone guitar longer than 26.5 inches is that when your string gauge isn’t thick enough and you tend to fret hard, the notes won’t be in pitch. This is the exact reason I sold my very beautiful playing Chapman ML3 BEA Baritone. To be fair though I only had 13-62 gauge strings on it, tuned to A standard.
Hi. Thanks for your review. I wait for my ml1 baritone Storm burst special edition. I’ve a question: what was the tuning of your guitar when you received it ? In B ? A ? Thank you.
Have you tried out the Ibanez Rgib21 baritone? Would love to hear your opinion on that one compared to the Chapman.
Cheers!
🎶🔥
How has this guitar held up till now (Oct 2021)? I chose it over the ML3 Bea Baritone because of the 24 SS frets, but wonder how your long term experience was.
I have the same guitar, I personally don't like the pick ups. Feel like when you get into the G# range and lower, it starts to sound muddy even with .074 gauge strings on the low E. Gonna try and install some active pick ups to hopefully give it more gain and less muddiness...Using Soldano SLO-100 as well for my interface.
Holy fuck your great with the comment edit about the neck
play some Humanitys last breath for us! :D
What string gauge would you recommend, when you tune to Drop G on such a Chapman Baritone guitar?
7:40 oh shit!
Wow a veneer for 1k, iv seen way cherped guitars with real tops
It is a real maple top, and it has an additional flamed maple veneer on top of that.
I thought the pro range did NOT have veneers. My Ghost Fret from the first run is not a veneer. I know the standard range does
I remember chappers making out like it was a full flame top, he has a way of manipulating the truth
I don't mind. The Plini Strandberg only has a veneer and he decided that on purpose so that they don't have to chop down as many of the expensive, rarer trees and I can get behind that. At the end of the day it literally does not matter, it still looks the same.
Are you 11 years old this year or 12?
Did you consider a Baritone conversion neck ? At the moment i´m looking into a Baritone aswell but did not find really the right one. Really nice sounds !
Not really, what else than a Strat or Tele could you convert? I was looking for a while before I found this one. There are much more baritones out there than you think, but most are not metal orientated (i.e. Danelectro) or just have 22 frets (PRS, Rabea Signature which I almost got instead). This ticks all the boxes. Humbuckers, modern shape, 28", 24 ss frets and all the satin goodness!
@@MilianMalivukMusic Well you can convert everything with a strat or tele neck pocket. Yeah i know there are lots of guitars but not the right one for me. The only problem is see with the conversion enck ist the length of the neck. A guitar that is a baritone from the start can change the position from the bridge and pickups. So the neck isn´t that long. Will see maybe it is easier to just built one. :D
They're at around 600€ at Thomann as of now. And I'm getting the Red Sea one boyyyy
This is from a limited edition Pro line, they were around 1k euros ;)
Did the frets need leveling or just a trust adjustment?
Have you had any noise issues with your PRS MT15? I've had unusable issues with having anything run through the FX Loop
Not at all, I use drives and a compressor in front of it, reverb and chorus in the FX loop without any more noise than usual
Cool video!!! However I had a bad experience with my chapman (ml3 first korean models) due to poor electronics. I was in love with the looks and playing, however the electronics on the guitar are atrocius (noises and cuts all the time).... A friend also had a bad experience with the nut on his chapman... so it seems that the quality controll is not the best... Hope it keeps working good for you on the future man!!
I've heard so much controversial things about the Chapmans, some love them, some absolutely hate them (although I think many who hate them online never actually played one). I wanted to stay neutral and give it a try, also in relation to the Chappers story that went nuts over the winter. I figured, some great players and known people like Rabea Massad, Pete Cotrell and Rob Scallon play them, so they can't be that bad.
To update my statement about the fret leveling in this video, I was able to improve it by setting it up differently (I think that it needs a different approach to the setup than a bolt-on), I reduced the relief and raised the bridge saddles and ended up with a lower action but not more fretbuzz, if not less. Considering the gauge, which will always be thick as fuck, even a 72 gauge for F# just can't be set up than a 46 for a standard E. There will always be some buzz.
So far I've been enjoying this a lot and I'm having the inspiration that I was looking for. Win!
@@MilianMalivukMusic Thanks for the answer!! However I was no talking about the controversy. I don't hate Chappers and I love Bea, that's why I bought the guitar 🤔 However after two years with the guitar I think you can have better options for that price like Ibanez or LTD (and now of course Solar). With this said, I would never sell my guitar because I bought it with all my love and support to the Chapman team and I truly enjoy the feel. Hope it works well for you in the future man! Keep the good work! Regards
Great video! Quick question, was your need for 24 frets a personal preference?
Thanks! Yes, definitely. I use the 24th much more than one would think, I often use it in tapping to tap the octave for example.
@@MilianMalivukMusic Ok, makes sense. Thanks!
Damn, did you see those new Harley Benton Amarok Baritones? 27" scale length, satin finishes, 24 stainless steel frets, matching Headstock. Would you review one eventually?
How high would you max. recommand going with this?
From what I observed so far having dealt with couple of Chapmans, the pickups are more than likely a BKP knock-off, the mid-range is so similar it is almost scary :D
Only in the pro range? The ones that came with the v2s? Curious to know because I dont think I like the ones on my ml1-7 pro😅
@@michaelkorn361 I'm not familiar with the specific model tbh
Did you need to modify the nut at all to fit the .72 gauge on it? I noticed they ship stock with a .62 so I wasn’t sure if that was an easy swap
.062 to .072*
What I do when going up a gauge is using the string as a file to slightly open the according nut slot for each one (mainly the wound strings)
What other models and brand do these pickups compare to
Have you adujusted the neck niva trussrod to get rid of the buzz?
Hey, yes I tried a different setup (less relief in the neck, higher saddles) and got lower action and a bit less buzz!
shoudnt watch that video ;( Now I want baritone ...
That guitar sounds stellar. I´m also going for a Thornhill/Loathe vibe rn and I´m trying to decide between the ESP LTD M-1000MS FM stb (which matt van duppen of thornhill actually plays) and this one. I´m a little bit worried that the 26.5 aren´t enaugh for that style, but on the other hand matt plays it so...
What are your thoughts on this? Also the fanned fret kinda scares me, I come from a pop punk background and played an lp studio for like 5 years and now I´m changing genres within my band (I´m actually the vocalist but I basicly write everything with the drummer). So I´ve nerver actually played a fanned fret.
Keep them videos coming m8
Greets from Germany,
Jakob
Hallo Jakob.
Mit der Esp Ltd 1000MS hättest du schonmal eine gute Qualität und ebenfalls gute Hardware/PUs aber wenn du von einer Les Paul mit entsprechender Mensur kommst, dann würde ich dir wirklich dazu raten eine Gitarre mit FF auszuprobieren. Borg dir eine von einem Freund, frag bei bekannten Bands etc. In der Regel merkst du nach 1-2 Stunden ob du zurecht kommst oder nicht. In der Regel geht das ziemlich schnell, da die einzige Umstellung weite Akkorde sind und das man seine Hand natürlicher "greifen" lässt. Wenn es keine Möglichkeit gibt es auszuprobieren, empfehle ich dir einfach ein günstigeres Modell (Jackson oder Ibanez zum Beispiel) auszuprobieren und bei nicht gefallen zurückzuschicken.
Ich habe einige FF durch und bin mit meiner Ibanez RGD61ALMS (26,8-25-5) sehr zufrieden. (Drop G- F# 68-12)
Je größer der Winkel wird (z.b. 25.5-28)umso merkwürdiger wird es. Probieren geht vor studieren. Grüße!
@@BigMetalDaddy1301 Da kann ich nur zustimmen. Das muss man einfach fühlen. Der erste Tag mit 28" war gewöhnungsbedürftig, jetzt fühlt es sich normal an und 25,5" wie eine Kindergitarre. Für Thornhill tunings würde ich schon etwas mehr als 26,5" anraten, aber jeder hat seinen Geschmack.
@@BigMetalDaddy1301 Danke dir für deine ausführliche antwort, hat echt geholfen. Ist gut zu wissen, dass die 26.5" den job ohne probleme machen. Ich werd mich mal bei befreundeten bands umhören ob dort irgendjemand ff spielt. Wenn nicht bestell ich sie einfach mal auf gut glück, ich meine was soll schon schief gehen haha. Ich bin dicke Saiten auch gewöhnt also sollte die Esp mit den 26.5 schon hinkommen.
Grüße gehen an dich!
@@MilianMalivukMusic Danke für die Antwort! Ich denke ich starte einfach mal mit den 26.5" und vielleicht werden es ja im nächsten Jahr die 28". Es geht mir halt auch darum einfach ein Workhorse im Thornhill F# Tuning zu haben für´s Songwriting und ich denke das macht die Esp ganz gut, eben auch weil es noch keine so große umstellung ist.
Cheers
@@jakedoesmusic5372 Alternativ kann ich dir die Harley Benton 7SB Deluxe sehr empfehlen. 7 Saiter mit 27er Mensur! Die Standard Tonabnehmer sind schon echt super, mehr als solide Hardware, Graphit Nut, super Verarbeitung und sehr stabile Stimmung! 300€ gerade mal.
Habe einen bare knuckle Impulse an der Bridge eingebaut und bin komplett glücklich damit!
How does this guitar feel compared to the Ibanez Rgib6 baritone? In terms of sound and feel?
Cheers!
Unfortunately I never got to try one! The price is too high for a guitar with such basic specs and outdated pickups. Btw I sold this too as I couldn't justify this either, but it was definitely good value for its money. I now got a Harley Benton Amarok and a video is coming.
I'm torn between this and the Jason Richardson Sterling by Ernie ball signature model. Baritones are defenantly a different beast
You should have gone for the schecter baritones. Made in korea and loaded with expensive aftermarket parts.
Swain Bjornstrandt the Korean made Schecter are awesome value for the money.
Which ones are you talking about?
@@BigMetalDaddy1301 i had the apocalypse series in mind and some c1s, not necessarily the hellraisers.
@@SwainBjornstrandt i never looked at the apocalypse series. I'll check them out. Thanks!
@@BigMetalDaddy1301 definitely do that brother. In our day and age the most value for money, mass production instruments you can find. Schecter has class!
Thomann will fix those frets for you.
Hey mate and Watchers. Can you tune this guitar to Standard e Tuning with good Sound and Not wasting the guitar?
I think this completely misses the point of the guitar if you do that
Do you prefer that one or the charvel (not making case to the baritone fact)?
Phew, that's tough. Feeling is similiarly awesome, however the two point trem and the string trees are a drawback for me, so if I could trade the Charvel against the Chapman in 25,5" I probably would. Maybe I'll even do that :D
Soulhenge uhhhhh thanks man!!!! And which pickups do you prefer for metal things?
Honestly I think pickups don't matter that much. Some mid output pickups can sound as great in metal than high output if you dial your tone in correctly. As long as it's a somewhat hotter humbucker.
Soulhenge really helpful, thanks!!!
kinda cool but maybe...
¿Ibanez JEM UV777?
What tune are you in at the intro
He's in drop F# or Gb
I feel that. I don't understand why I didn't think of using a baritone years ago. Don't buy into the 7 string 8 string hype for low down tuning. It's overrated unless you're a hardcore shredding beast lead guitarist that uses all of those extra strings. Personally I only need 6 strings...If that lol.
Your hair looks pretty damn good. What doesn't is that lamp...
Thoughts on this guitar today? Considering this as a new piece
Still an amazing instrument in my eyes!
@@MilianMalivukMusic i was mistaken they dont have the baritones in stock 😭 Your videos have inspired my interest in making my own, the baritone market stock is few and far between at the moment
my ml2 sound bad even with emg 57
you should probably have that guitar pleked
Isn't that like 400€?
Cant find the 28" in the Internet. Any Suggestions?
I bought the last new one online from Andertons two weeks ago. The only chance is to find one used as this is a limited run.
@@MilianMalivukMusic dont break my fcking heart :o... i also cant find a "6 String, 28" scale, neck trough" guitar anyway...!? some advice?
@@MilianMalivukMusic sell it to me for a Higher price xX
Chapman has LOTS of baritone models
@@MilianMalivukMusic but i want a neck trough..
I would like these guitars, but the headstock is ugly as hell
I thought that aswell before I actually got one. It looks better in person imo
I'm sure people get used to it after a while. But a guitar should be perfect in every design point if you buy one. and truth is, this headstock is usgly as hell indeed.
Couldnt agree more
I actually like the headstock. And I am usually a bit picky. Go figure.
I was involved in the original collaborative design project to design the first Chapman guitars and we all voted as a community for this reverse telecaster style headstock, so different strokes. You may not like it, but we all wanted this
If Godzilla played guitar
oof, that's a filthy intro
You okay man? Maybe it’s just me but you look unusually thin... or maybe it’s just the new camera too
The 11mm wide angle lens make a weird stretch and my arms look even longer and thinner than they are haha
All is good man,but too much gain.Especially on low tunings too much gain can really muddy things up.
Maple top with a flame veneer to fake it, noname self branded pickups and bridge for that price? Chapman really did go insane... You can get better stuff for $400-500 from fucking harley benton...
sooooo, you want to be a bassist...
11:47 12:25
I want tabs now lol
I guess the fret buzz is the reason it being a B-stock. I would send it back. In my opinion, these Chapmans are waaaaay too overpriced. 1000 euro, and you get own branded pickups? Veneer? Blemish? nah...
Blemishes make for b-stock, mate, not fret buzz. However, for buzz and in-house pickups (excusing the veneer bc there is a real maple cap underneath) for a grand is a bit much. I would rather drop $580 in a standard model and mod it for around the same price, if not less
More playing, less talking. Perhaps record a small song Demo, with the guitar in the mix at the start of the video? Still gave you a thumbs up though! I bought mine in a store from switzerland, since they are sold out EVERYWHERE :D
Looks grate )) but black... it’s so boring ... )) and sound is cool
$1k... couldn't do that. There are better options out there for less
What other guitars out there have stainles steel frets, Hipshot tuners a baritone scale length and seymour duncans for 1,2k? I personally cant think of any
Can't stand the Chapman guy, but the guitar looks dope.
Why? What's wrong with him?
Cringeman ML-1
I don't mean any disrespect, but baritone guitars are really unappealing for me and really lame. You lose register and lose comfort with the longer scale. The brands are pushing this because is cheaper than 7/8s to build. Pointless!
Sounds fuckin aweful