Yes! I needed this pallet cleanse. I recently got a new Squier Carbronita Baritone tele, and tried to play a ton of heavy gain stuff on it, but you just reminded me how much it shines as that wet delay low mid-low gain "glue". Thank you!!
@@raym.778 Lol, you are strong willed and stubborn I see... You're are not impulsive at all. All joking aside, did you get one and, if so, what is it like?
@@tomasotreasaigh111 Hahahahaha. Oh no. I'm still paying off recent impulse purchase # 1, a '72 Fender Telecaster Deluxe. It'll be a while until I make a serious attempt to buy another guitar.
john smith it’s one of these coffee machines where you insert a little Aluminium bucket every time you want a coffee. It produces huge amounts of trash, but some people like that it’s easy to use without needing much cleaning and swear by the taste.
Buy baritone Full step down tune Buy fuzz Make random triangular shapes on neck Play random power chords on lowest three strings Always ring out all open strings (especially the high 2nd) Record aimlessly at varying intervals of intensity for 15 minutes CONGRATS! You've now recorded Track 1 of the next album as the newest member of Thou!! (pleasenoteallperformancesandrecordingsaretobeplayedinsandals)
Reason number 6, if you’re a rhythm player you almost never need a high E string anyway, much more options to really fill in that section between a lead guitar and bass when you have that extra low string. Never need to detune your guitar ever again. Cheers!
Yes and no. Guitar is good for spreading wide intervals. Using just root and major/minor 3rd over an octave is really cool and melodic. If you into chug... You really need 3 bass strings anyway.
it's just a guitar with heavier gauge strings, lower than e standard tuning, and the intonation set up for it, you don't need a special type of guitar necessarily..
@@towelie4625 the last few words are BS. The rest was kinda right. If you set up a normal guitar to b standard tuning with thick strings, it still doesn't sound the same or feel the same as a baritone. That's the reason why they built it.
ty max typically most average guitar necks cannot handle the tension necessary to keep them in tune, which is why baritone guitars exist in the first place. You are likely to damage a normal guitar if you put baritone strings on it
@fjf sjdnx uummm no. The scale length on a bass is much bigger, usually around 860mm, whereas a baritone guitar's scale length ranges from 670mm up to something around 760mm like the Danelectro in this video.
This has probably been my favorite track you’ve done for the channel to date. It sounds like a really dope movie has just concluded on an intense cliffhanger
Here's another reason: A song completely depends on an open chord part, like an open D riff that can't be moved down because of the chord voicing- slap a capo on the 3rd or 4th fret of a baritone and now it's in C or C# where the singer can now hit the notes. Think of it as a 'reverse capo' that can move down in pitch instead of up.
They are also great in a power duo with a drummer. I play one with a Y splitter into a bass amp and then stereo out of effects box into two guitar amps. Huge sound from one guitar.
Got the same guitar for about 2 years now, it's awesome! I don't use it that often, live it's best as a solo instrument or in combination with a seccond guitarist. It's a blessing in the studio, when you have the opportunity to layer guitar tracks.
ognilouD driB might work for some players but there’s several drawbacks to artificially changing your tuning, the biggest being it affects tone quite a bit. Didn’t produce a good sound for what I do, but it might work for others, it’s definitely a cheaper option so it’s a good thing to try before going full baritone.
Cosmic Billy yes! Just make sure it’s a strat neck so it fits the pocket correctly, warmoths are licensed fender parts so they fit perfectly into anything fender or squire makes
Or you if you've got a fender or PRS scale-length type guitar you could check out the new Mammoth Slinky's by Ernie Ball. I've set up my SE soapbar II in B standard, sounds fantastic (upgraded my p90s to a set of bare knuckle warpigs also). All it takes is a little research into setting up guitars: you'd need to adjust the truss rod and set the neck relief, widen the slots in the nut to match the new strings by either using wound strings to file the slots and/or by carefully using low-grit sandpaper, making sure the string height at the nut is correct too, then set the action (bridge height), then move the bridge saddles back and set the intonation. Also, use a low HB graphite pencil to lubricate the nut slots so you get better tuning stability. It's a reversible mod as well, except for the nut filing but new nuts are inexpensive to buy and if it doesn't come pre-filed to a good enough setting, it don't cost that much if you'd prefer to take it to a luthier and have them do a proper job on it :)
I have a 7-string baritone (30" scale) from Agile guitars/Rondo Music. They’re a really affordable brand if you’re looking for baritone guitars ~$300 brand new. I think they discontinued the 30" scale, but they still have 25", 26", or 28" I don’t remember which.
Just bought this exact guitar, and when it arrived and I tuned it up... fell in love immediately. Instantly my new favorite guitar. I got it for more of a "spaghetti western" sound like Rhett demos here... but then when I turned on some chorus, I realized how amazing this would also be for shoegaze, dreampop, postrock, you name it!
I’ve always liked the idea of a baritone but haven’t bought one. I’ve finally realized (it’s embarrassing it has taken this long) that I can use a capo and have a standard or move it down in steps for tuning down.
I've always loved electric guitar, but for me, it's just one of those things you like experiencing but not doing. That's why I play bass guitar instead. I love bass's percussive possibilities and rich, heavy tones, both things I can't get from guitar. However, I still really like how guitars take effects and how well-suited they are for your more conventional melodies. That's why I think I'll love electric baritone guitars! They're like the perfect cross between bass and guitar: They sound great with effects but still have a good amount of weight to their notes!
I’ve used my baritone instead of a bass when a down tuning is called for. I have found some Tremonti songs that sound great with the baritone in place of the bass.
What I'm currently doing with my baritone guitar is it has light strings tuned to open C. I'm not going to cut up a normal guitar's nut so I can use a size 60 string for that low C, and I don't currently feel a need to go that half step lower for B standard, so this is perfect for me. Well, almost perfect. I haven't learned all the chords I need to know in this tuning yet haha. More practice!
i had a super similar experience a few weeks ago, checked out a danelectro baritone because i’d seen some of my favourite songwriters using them (phoebe bridgers & conor oberst mainly) and within about a minute of playing the thing i knew i just had to have it. i basically can’t stop writing songs on it and i love it. it’s also a great tool because my main band has three guitar players, so now when we’re writing songs, i can go to that and sit myself in a really cool sonic space
Another cool thing you can do with a baritone is double drop it. Tune the top 5 to drop D and drop the 6th string to A. There, you can double your drop D riffs with some extra gnar!
Same story here, wanted a baritone for years. Bought an 8 string instead. Suited me, then I finally caved and bought a 33 inch scale "Seed Kotetsu" (Instantly blocked off the floyd lol) and am much happier. Later on I picked up a PRS 277SE baritone and love that one too. I only really play baritones now. Weird lol
I confess, I’ve thought about buying s baritone, but it’s because I’m a bass player looking to broaden my horizons a bit. I love that chunky “Summer Time Blues”/Duane Eddy sound & I guess I spend time when I’m playing the bass thinking about songs that could benefit from the sound. Keep playing, I’ll keep watching. Cheers!
@@lamech006 It hasn't been an issue because even though the ranges overlap more, the tones are different enough not to be an issue. Especially with an ace sound guy like we're blessed to have.
I built a baritone using a Tele body and a Warmoth baritone neck. It has a 28-5/8" scale, and I tune it down to A to A. The neck pickup has this huge wall of sound but the bridge pickup has that spectacular Tele spank. I love it. The addiction doesn't end, however. I really want to get a Squier Jaguar Bass VI and use it as a bari instead of a bass. Because it has a 30" scale, I can tune it down to an E toE, same as a 6-string bass.
B standard tuning makes playing some songs easier. Keys with flats, like Eb major or minor do not have the same impact if played on 4 string bass or standard guitar if it is not downtuned. Baritone guitar sounds really nice and juicy. I also like the bass with low B, and I would even like to experiment with tunings lower than A standard.
I absolutely love my PRS baritone guitar... While no standard tuning has been established for baritone guitars, the perfect fifth lower (A1-D2-G2-C3-E3-A3), makes your standard major cord positions sound great as they are always a perfect fifth away from the original. This makes transition even easier .
I've got the same guitar in silver sparkle. Love it. It was one of those things I didn't know how much I needed until I got one. I use it on recordings all the time. More often than not. The tone with those lipsticks is very cool. Very twangy.
For anyone wondering about the presets for the Helix - I have the MBritt, Fremen and DeLaune packs and Rhett's have been the ones I've enjoyed the most. They're fantastic - Especially the Deluxe Reverb & Divided by 13 ones. It's been years since I've owned or been in a position to play any of these tube amps, so I'm not saying they're perfect recreations, but man do they sound good.
Do you use any other aftermarket IRs alongside the presets? I just purchased the HX Stomp presets but I wasn't sure if you still needed to get some aftermarket IRs.
Love my Danelectro baritone... use it all the time. The cheapest guitar I have but one of the best sounding and just a great flavour when you're putting down multiple parts.
Just wait until you realize you can play every chord using the ones you already know ;) Look up the CAGED system, it will begin your journey to unlock the fretboard
I think when you play with a horn-section, and some other instruments (example: there exists an Eastern Cuban instrument that’s like a huge African thumb-piano: you thump out low tones on stick-y out-y pieces of metal that are attached to a cajón the size of a toy-box or small bath-tub), y’know …instruments that don’t have tuning-pegs, it’s nice to have your familiar shapes available to you in a variety of keys
Most 7 strings have a 25.5 - 27" scale length. This thing is almost 30, so you can use closer to the same gauge strings as you would normally, basically not making the low B a super fat and too bassy string where you need to high pass the guitar so you don't blow up your amp lol. The messhuga m8m guitar has a similar scale length... But it's 8 strings.
Christian Noir Which is why I’d love to see a full video on it, especially regarding various tunings. My 7-string is a 25.75 length with super heavy strings in drop A tuning. And it’s easy to imagine retuning the b string to have the low 6 act as a baritone. Drop A vs B drop D vs drop A drop D etc etc...
@@NateTriplett I usually just tune 25.5 scale guitars with 6 string to baritone. I don't really need a 7 string (although I have 2). A lot of the sound of this baritone is probably the lipstick pickups. It's a totally different ballgame I think.
I have a sixth reason: if your voice is deep like mine where I can sing base and I can sing baritone, this guitar is perfect! A lot of times with standard tuning, it seems to favor tenors and higher baritones a lot more. I don’t know. Maybe it’s just me but, these tunings sound way better with my voice because it’s a lower register.
I pulled the trigger a little while back when Gretsch rolled out the baritone electromatics. Love it! Was good to meet you at Smitty’s pipe show a few months back. Thanks for what you do brother!
yep, me too. we need to start a me too movement in regards to guitar purchases. just found my self in same situation, and walked away with one. first riff i played was inspirational i had to do it.
I've tried something like that with my "normal" 12 string (Washburn W240) --- tuning it down 4 or 5 frets worth. I really like the pitches I can get, but the lower notes don't come out well because it was made for normal tuning. Can't help but wish I'd known about baritone instruments back in 1973!
If I knew then what I know now, I would have pursued a career in music. Was always told I couldn't make a living as a guitarist. Rhett proved everyone wrong.
Yes you do need a baritone guitar. But I have great news for you: You already own one. Get a set of baritone strings (I'm using GHS Boomers, 14, 18, 28w, 38, 50, 70), widen the nut slots on that cheapo you have lying around and never play anymore. You may have to drill out the string hole in the tuner for the thickest string. BAM! Bari-tone for weeks. I did it to a Slick 60 with P90s, sounds absolutely amazing, and the string tension feels normal!
I always wanted a baritone! I played in a band inspired by Thee Oh Sees back in highschool and if I had the money then I would have bought one for a deeper fuzz tone instead of just tuning down to D. However now a days I do get away with an octave pedal, but still always have my eyes on one some day
I do almost all my playing on my Gretsch baritone. G5265. My voice is low (I wish I was a tenor but I'll sob about that later) and the way I phrase chords up and down the fret board requires open strings. It made sense that most of my composing and recording be on a baritone.
I love that music peace it reminds me of call of jaurez bound in blood I really like that music it would be a cool piece in a post nuclear western with muscle cars.
I realize and respect that you are not shilling for Danelectro, but two more things worth mentioning: these guitars are like $450 (new!). And the build quality (Korea) is excellent.
Having owned one, converted a couple 30" scale bass' to 6 string baritone, and finally built my own. Yeah, they're rather cool guitars. Open chords sound absolutely divine!!! Have not purchased an acoustic baritone guitar yet.
Most of the reasons you listed can also be satisfied by just using a different tuning. I mean you can only write so many songs in E standard. Even if you're not playing metal, tuning low or just using something besides e standard will really "Get you in a different creative space" as you said. A baritone guitar can help with that though, depending on how low you intend to tune. Alternate tunings straight up get you in a different key, which will instantly get you coming up with things you wouldn't if you're in the same tuning all the time.
I have a baritone acoustic and it’s great... just makes me play differently and sounds awesome when playing acoustic sets with another “normal” guitar.
A baritone guitar is like having a capo at the minus-5th fret. You know how to transpose for the capo in the + direction, you just have to extend that to the - direction.
Not even a guitarist, I'm a bassist and keyboardist but even I want one of these bad boys. If you had a six string bass and tuned the last two strings (G and C) a half-step down then you would have an octave below a baritone. Neat thought experiments like that always get my creative juices flowing
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Yes! I needed this pallet cleanse. I recently got a new Squier Carbronita Baritone tele, and tried to play a ton of heavy gain stuff on it, but you just reminded me how much it shines as that wet delay low mid-low gain "glue".
Thank you!!
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I had a Jerry Jones Baritone which was tuned A-A..Why aren't there Baritones tuned that way anymore? I preferred it.
***Watches first 40 seconds***
Youre right, I need a baritone guitar
Wow, good for you. I was sold on the idea, like 10 seconds in.
@@raym.778
Lol, you are strong willed and stubborn I see... You're are not impulsive at all.
All joking aside, did you get one and, if so, what is it like?
@@tomasotreasaigh111 Hahahahaha. Oh no. I'm still paying off recent impulse purchase # 1, a '72 Fender Telecaster Deluxe. It'll be a while until I make a serious attempt to buy another guitar.
*Watches first 15 seconds*
You're right I need to replay Red Dead 2
@@raym.778 make it 5
Sounds like the greatest Jeep ad ever
How did you get that so accurate
Truth.
Made my day lmao
Hahaha bullseye
Ah yes I can see it now
I used to have one, but I sold it to buy a Nespresso and a vacuum cleaner. Now I'm really alert all the time and my home is spotless, but I miss her.
"Mans gotta do what a man's gotta do and a man's gotta do it!"- (either John Wayne. or someone mocking him,- can't remember,& refuse to Google)
To be fair, Nespresso's are pretty great
Lmfao
What's a Nespresso?
john smith it’s one of these coffee machines where you insert a little Aluminium bucket every time you want a coffee.
It produces huge amounts of trash, but some people like that it’s easy to use without needing much cleaning and swear by the taste.
Finish that intro song, release it, let me buy it. Holy crap.
thejacobean
I agree
Yes
thejacobean I agree as well. Sounds really good!
Look up the last shadow puppets miracle aligner they sound like it
rhythm_panther that's what I was thinking. Other than the slide guitar, it sounds very Alex and Miles
Meh, I'll just stick to putting my capo on my negative 5th fret.
'B standard' tuning for me 🤣🤣
That song in the intro was amazing. It sound like a modern Spaghetti Western style song.
Nah, the rhythm is all wrong for it to be a Spaghetti western track.
@@apolloptx true. The sound and instrumentation is reminiscent. That's what I was referring to.
Check out Eyes Like the Sky by King Gizzard
I see a remake of Good, Bad and Ugly, but on Harley motorcycles.
Listen to Miracle Aligner by The Last Shadow Puppets
If a baritone will make all my songs sound like a Silent Hill theme like the intro of this video, then, yeah, I'm sold.
FrippTricky fuckin love akira yamaoka
Right?
@Wilbur Wafer i bet they've used one in SH2 intro theme
I know exactly what you're talking about
I was just thinking this then I saw this comment 😂
Buy baritone
Full step down tune
Buy fuzz
Make random triangular shapes on neck
Play random power chords on lowest three strings
Always ring out all open strings (especially the high 2nd)
Record aimlessly at varying intervals of intensity for 15 minutes
CONGRATS! You've now recorded Track 1 of the next album as the newest member of Thou!!
(pleasenoteallperformancesandrecordingsaretobeplayedinsandals)
Reason number 6, if you’re a rhythm player you almost never need a high E string anyway, much more options to really fill in that section between a lead guitar and bass when you have that extra low string. Never need to detune your guitar ever again. Cheers!
Sounds like the only reason lol
Yes and no. Guitar is good for spreading wide intervals. Using just root and major/minor 3rd over an octave is really cool and melodic. If you into chug... You really need 3 bass strings anyway.
I've never heard of a baritone guitar, literally until just now
it's just a guitar with heavier gauge strings, lower than e standard tuning, and the intonation set up for it, you don't need a special type of guitar necessarily..
c j it has a longer scale length
@@towelie4625 the last few words are BS. The rest was kinda right. If you set up a normal guitar to b standard tuning with thick strings, it still doesn't sound the same or feel the same as a baritone. That's the reason why they built it.
ty max typically most average guitar necks cannot handle the tension necessary to keep them in tune, which is why baritone guitars exist in the first place. You are likely to damage a normal guitar if you put baritone strings on it
@fjf sjdnx uummm no. The scale length on a bass is much bigger, usually around 860mm, whereas a baritone guitar's scale length ranges from 670mm up to something around 760mm like the Danelectro in this video.
This has probably been my favorite track you’ve done for the channel to date. It sounds like a really dope movie has just concluded on an intense cliffhanger
Was really hoping it would go for longer!
I sensed an Ennio Morricone vibe. Very nice.
I know the damn track, but I can’t think who it is
Aren't you scared that Fm chord is already copywrited, because someone else has used it in the past? :) Always good to hear your original music!
Hey, writing "Fm" in a comment is copyrighted! Dang, so are exclamation points, I'm screwed!!!
@@johncubbin hahaha, fair point, the police has just left my house, watch out!
You're done for bruv
I’m OK though...
Retro Plus innit brov
Baritone guitars where very popular in the 60s to help boost the bass parts that where being mixed for transistor
radio.
Here's another reason: A song completely depends on an open chord part, like an open D riff that can't be moved down because of the chord voicing- slap a capo on the 3rd or 4th fret of a baritone and now it's in C or C# where the singer can now hit the notes. Think of it as a 'reverse capo' that can move down in pitch instead of up.
theoversouls no
They are also great in a power duo with a drummer. I play one with a Y splitter into a bass amp and then stereo out of effects box into two guitar amps. Huge sound from one guitar.
This is my planned application for it, glad to know others are doing it, too!
Got the same guitar for about 2 years now, it's awesome!
I don't use it that often, live it's best as a solo instrument or in combination with a seccond guitarist.
It's a blessing in the studio, when you have the opportunity to layer guitar tracks.
STOP SPENDING MY MONEY!
I own an Ibanez mmm1 baritone guitar, best guitar I've ever owned
Just a tip for everyone who doesn’t want to spend big money on a baritone: Warmoth makes baritone conversion necks for strats and teles 😉
Kai Kutzki did this for a partscaster tele. I now play that guitar almost exclusively.
ognilouD driB might work for some players but there’s several drawbacks to artificially changing your tuning, the biggest being it affects tone quite a bit. Didn’t produce a good sound for what I do, but it might work for others, it’s definitely a cheaper option so it’s a good thing to try before going full baritone.
Would i be able to do that with my mexi strat?
Cosmic Billy yes! Just make sure it’s a strat neck so it fits the pocket correctly, warmoths are licensed fender parts so they fit perfectly into anything fender or squire makes
Or you if you've got a fender or PRS scale-length type guitar you could check out the new Mammoth Slinky's by Ernie Ball. I've set up my SE soapbar II in B standard, sounds fantastic (upgraded my p90s to a set of bare knuckle warpigs also).
All it takes is a little research into setting up guitars: you'd need to adjust the truss rod and set the neck relief, widen the slots in the nut to match the new strings by either using wound strings to file the slots and/or by carefully using low-grit sandpaper, making sure the string height at the nut is correct too, then set the action (bridge height), then move the bridge saddles back and set the intonation. Also, use a low HB graphite pencil to lubricate the nut slots so you get better tuning stability.
It's a reversible mod as well, except for the nut filing but new nuts are inexpensive to buy and if it doesn't come pre-filed to a good enough setting, it don't cost that much if you'd prefer to take it to a luthier and have them do a proper job on it :)
I have a 7-string baritone (30" scale) from Agile guitars/Rondo Music. They’re a really affordable brand if you’re looking for baritone guitars ~$300 brand new. I think they discontinued the 30" scale, but they still have 25", 26", or 28" I don’t remember which.
I second that- the Agile's are great, if not always so pretty.
I’ve been thinking about getting an Agile baritone myself, I have an Agile AD2300 and it’s a lot of fun
Been playing a baritone guitar for 13 years. Love it and rarely pickup a regular guitar unless it’s the Tele
Just bought this exact guitar, and when it arrived and I tuned it up... fell in love immediately. Instantly my new favorite guitar. I got it for more of a "spaghetti western" sound like Rhett demos here... but then when I turned on some chorus, I realized how amazing this would also be for shoegaze, dreampop, postrock, you name it!
I’ve always liked the idea of a baritone but haven’t bought one. I’ve finally realized (it’s embarrassing it has taken this long) that I can use a capo and have a standard or move it down in steps for tuning down.
Yeah baritone guitars are genuinely my favorite instruments purely from their versatility
I also did not realize that. Now I guess I have to buy a baritone guitar after all
I've always loved electric guitar, but for me, it's just one of those things you like experiencing but not doing. That's why I play bass guitar instead. I love bass's percussive possibilities and rich, heavy tones, both things I can't get from guitar. However, I still really like how guitars take effects and how well-suited they are for your more conventional melodies. That's why I think I'll love electric baritone guitars! They're like the perfect cross between bass and guitar: They sound great with effects but still have a good amount of weight to their notes!
bass vi style instruments are also an interesting way to get that in between sound
I’ve used my baritone instead of a bass when a down tuning is called for. I have found some Tremonti songs that sound great with the baritone in place of the bass.
I have a Fender Jazzmaster. Love it. At 30" scale it tunes A to A adding depth and versatility. To tune B to B, I capo the second fret.
You mean Bass VI?
A couple months ago my grandson hit me up for a baritone. I've been looking at them for him and now I've convinced myself I need one also!
There just ain't no tone like a Danelectro Baritone....
Gosh darn it
Wish I had one to prove that...
Or a Danelectro Bass!
Tried a Squier Vintage Modified Baritone Jazzmaster lately?...
I'll never regret buying my baritone guitar. Love the sound and feel. Totally recommend getting one. ;)
What I'm currently doing with my baritone guitar is it has light strings tuned to open C. I'm not going to cut up a normal guitar's nut so I can use a size 60 string for that low C, and I don't currently feel a need to go that half step lower for B standard, so this is perfect for me. Well, almost perfect. I haven't learned all the chords I need to know in this tuning yet haha. More practice!
I’d love one but I need to learn to play my regular 6 string first!
That is also the reason to own a 7 string guitar. With one quick retuning of the G string to F#, you can have a standard baritone tuned guitar.
I built a baritone strat a couple years ago. Added a floyd Rose. Very fun to play.
i had a super similar experience a few weeks ago, checked out a danelectro baritone because i’d seen some of my favourite songwriters using them (phoebe bridgers & conor oberst mainly) and within about a minute of playing the thing i knew i just had to have it. i basically can’t stop writing songs on it and i love it. it’s also a great tool because my main band has three guitar players, so now when we’re writing songs, i can go to that and sit myself in a really cool sonic space
That song in the beginning is amazing!!
Another cool thing you can do with a baritone is double drop it.
Tune the top 5 to drop D and drop the 6th string to A.
There, you can double your drop D riffs with some extra gnar!
Davie504 *want's to know your location* He said he wants his Guitass back
Same story here, wanted a baritone for years. Bought an 8 string instead. Suited me, then I finally caved and bought a 33 inch scale "Seed Kotetsu" (Instantly blocked off the floyd lol) and am much happier. Later on I picked up a PRS 277SE baritone and love that one too. I only really play baritones now. Weird lol
never played a baritone, but love Danelectro's, they have their own personality, which am sure has enhanced your loving of this guitar.
I seriously need that PRS 277 tuned to C. That’s literally gonna be my next guitar.
I confess, I’ve thought about buying s baritone, but it’s because I’m a bass player looking to broaden my horizons a bit. I love that chunky “Summer Time Blues”/Duane Eddy sound & I guess I spend time when I’m playing the bass thinking about songs that could benefit from the sound. Keep playing, I’ll keep watching. Cheers!
I play a baritone guitar at church maybe 40% of the time. It just works. They might be easier to EQ than standard guitars as well.
Does your bass player use a 5-string? I'd be worried there would be too much overlap
@@lamech006 different beasts.
If one of your singer dudes wants to get all strummy with an acoustic, they've got a little more space of their own in the mix.
@@lamech006 It hasn't been an issue because even though the ranges overlap more, the tones are different enough not to be an issue. Especially with an ace sound guy like we're blessed to have.
@@lamech006 ...and most fivers are strung in low B, rather than high C.
I built a baritone using a Tele body and a Warmoth baritone neck. It has a 28-5/8" scale, and I tune it down to A to A. The neck pickup has this huge wall of sound but the bridge pickup has that spectacular Tele spank. I love it. The addiction doesn't end, however. I really want to get a Squier Jaguar Bass VI and use it as a bari instead of a bass. Because it has a 30" scale, I can tune it down to an E toE, same as a 6-string bass.
B standard tuning makes playing some songs easier. Keys with flats, like Eb major or minor do not have the same impact if played on 4 string bass or standard guitar if it is not downtuned.
Baritone guitar sounds really nice and juicy. I also like the bass with low B, and I would even like to experiment with tunings lower than A standard.
I absolutely love my PRS baritone guitar... While no standard tuning has been established for baritone guitars, the perfect fifth lower (A1-D2-G2-C3-E3-A3), makes your standard major cord positions sound great as they are always a perfect fifth away from the original. This makes transition even easier .
I didn't know I need a baritone until this amazing intro!
Great addition to the quiver! Love layering guitars and doubling with high strung acoustics and and baritones. Good stuff Rhett!!
Great Vid man. I've done the same thing Picked up Baritone's and loved them and then put them down. Great info
I've got the same guitar in silver sparkle. Love it. It was one of those things I didn't know how much I needed until I got one. I use it on recordings all the time. More often than not. The tone with those lipsticks is very cool. Very twangy.
I've been playing for 8 years and I have never heard of a baritone guitar
For anyone wondering about the presets for the Helix - I have the MBritt, Fremen and DeLaune packs and Rhett's have been the ones I've enjoyed the most. They're fantastic - Especially the Deluxe Reverb & Divided by 13 ones. It's been years since I've owned or been in a position to play any of these tube amps, so I'm not saying they're perfect recreations, but man do they sound good.
Do you use any other aftermarket IRs alongside the presets? I just purchased the HX Stomp presets but I wasn't sure if you still needed to get some aftermarket IRs.
"Spaghetti western"...if I played Chinese music with it, would it be "Lo mein eastern?"
Still can't get over the downwards slide at 0:34. Came back to this video for a final push before ordering a Danelectro. Lovely work - cheers!
What made you go for a Baritone instead of a 7 or 8 string guitar? Or even just tuning down to B Standard on a regular 6 string?
Cheers :)
Love my Danelectro baritone... use it all the time. The cheapest guitar I have but one of the best sounding and just a great flavour when you're putting down multiple parts.
You should try tuning it E to e like a bass vi, that’s a whole other instrument
Melih Kaleciklioglu the scale length isn’t long enough. You’d need at least 32 inches. This model only has a 29 inch scale.
@@noahbrewer2476 what about short scale basses?
Love the baritone. Thanks for the lush tune Rhett.
i can only play like 5 different chords and i want one
Just wait until you realize you can play every chord using the ones you already know ;)
Look up the CAGED system, it will begin your journey to unlock the fretboard
tune it to drop A and you’ll know all the chords
Currently ADGCEA is my fav tuning. HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend Reverend Descent with Humcutters.
I got a 7 string baritone, amazing tele from esp
I think when you play with a horn-section, and some other instruments (example: there exists an Eastern Cuban instrument that’s like a huge African thumb-piano: you thump out low tones on stick-y out-y pieces of metal that are attached to a cajón the size of a toy-box or small bath-tub), y’know …instruments that don’t have tuning-pegs, it’s nice to have your familiar shapes available to you in a variety of keys
I’d love to see you do a comparison to a 7 string.
Most 7 strings have a 25.5 - 27" scale length. This thing is almost 30, so you can use closer to the same gauge strings as you would normally, basically not making the low B a super fat and too bassy string where you need to high pass the guitar so you don't blow up your amp lol.
The messhuga m8m guitar has a similar scale length... But it's 8 strings.
Christian Noir Which is why I’d love to see a full video on it, especially regarding various tunings. My 7-string is a 25.75 length with super heavy strings in drop A tuning. And it’s easy to imagine retuning the b string to have the low 6 act as a baritone. Drop A vs B drop D vs drop A drop D etc etc...
@@NateTriplett I usually just tune 25.5 scale guitars with 6 string to baritone. I don't really need a 7 string (although I have 2).
A lot of the sound of this baritone is probably the lipstick pickups. It's a totally different ballgame I think.
I have a sixth reason: if your voice is deep like mine where I can sing base and I can sing baritone, this guitar is perfect! A lot of times with standard tuning, it seems to favor tenors and higher baritones a lot more. I don’t know. Maybe it’s just me but, these tunings sound way better with my voice because it’s a lower register.
For those who like the Intro song check out "eyes like the sky" by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
oh yeah I love them
oh yeah
I pulled the trigger a little while back when Gretsch rolled out the baritone electromatics. Love it! Was good to meet you at Smitty’s pipe show a few months back. Thanks for what you do brother!
Now I have GAS for two Dano's ! 59X and a Baritone ,you are an enabler Rhett ! ;-)
yep, me too. we need to start a me too movement in regards to guitar purchases. just found my self in same situation, and walked away with one. first riff i played was inspirational i had to do it.
I liked the video but kept wanting for more playing, it sounded great!
I've tried something like that with my "normal" 12 string (Washburn W240) --- tuning it down 4 or 5 frets worth.
I really like the pitches I can get, but the lower notes don't come out well because it was made for normal tuning.
Can't help but wish I'd known about baritone instruments back in 1973!
Sounds like Twin Peaks 😍😍😍
If I knew then what I know now, I would have pursued a career in music. Was always told I couldn't make a living as a guitarist. Rhett proved everyone wrong.
Great, the last thing I need is someone else giving me logical and legit reasons to buy another guitar. I do that pretty well myself.
This is why baritone guitar is phenomenal for looping
Intro with those licks reminded me of Last of Us. Not disappointed
Yes you do need a baritone guitar. But I have great news for you: You already own one. Get a set of baritone strings (I'm using GHS Boomers, 14, 18, 28w, 38, 50, 70), widen the nut slots on that cheapo you have lying around and never play anymore. You may have to drill out the string hole in the tuner for the thickest string. BAM! Bari-tone for weeks. I did it to a Slick 60 with P90s, sounds absolutely amazing, and the string tension feels normal!
Can we have a full version of the song you made in the beginning? That was awesome
I always wanted a baritone! I played in a band inspired by Thee Oh Sees back in highschool and if I had the money then I would have bought one for a deeper fuzz tone instead of just tuning down to D. However now a days I do get away with an octave pedal, but still always have my eyes on one some day
Dude that intro track is awesome!! Great video! You keep making them and I’ll keep watching
I do almost all my playing on my Gretsch baritone. G5265. My voice is low (I wish I was a tenor but I'll sob about that later) and the way I phrase chords up and down the fret board requires open strings. It made sense that most of my composing and recording be on a baritone.
Watched this video again after a year, and I really need a Baritone.
S.A.M.E.
Same
I keep coming back to this video a few times per week. That intro song is just amazing.
the opening briefly reminds me of the last of us & rdr2
Same situation here... I've been jiving for a PRS SE277 semihollow baritone for years. If the right deal ever pops up it's done for me.
I love that music peace it reminds me of call of jaurez bound in blood I really like that music it would be a cool piece in a post nuclear western with muscle cars.
Not sure how you do it Rhett, but your videos are consistently interesting and engaging. Thanks!
I want a baritone guitar just so I can play Architects songs without having floppy strings.
I realize and respect that you are not shilling for Danelectro, but two more things worth mentioning: these guitars are like $450 (new!). And the build quality (Korea) is excellent.
These guitars are made to Djent. Try it.
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@@BobJones-bh9qz What are you, gay?
Loving that wrongly hitted note around 0:56 and the fact you have left it there. Now we know you're human :).
*Buys Baritone
*All of my songs now sound like RDR2 Soundtrack
Just kidding. Love the sound.
Having owned one, converted a couple 30" scale bass' to 6 string baritone, and finally built my own. Yeah, they're rather cool guitars.
Open chords sound absolutely divine!!! Have not purchased an acoustic baritone guitar yet.
Alex Turner uses baritone guitar on Last shadow puppets songs
Gretsch Spectra Sonic baritone!
I totally agree, everyone should have a baritone in their collection. Cheers Rhett!!
Why not buy a 7string instead of a baritone then?
Most of the reasons you listed can also be satisfied by just using a different tuning. I mean you can only write so many songs in E standard. Even if you're not playing metal, tuning low or just using something besides e standard will really "Get you in a different creative space" as you said. A baritone guitar can help with that though, depending on how low you intend to tune. Alternate tunings straight up get you in a different key, which will instantly get you coming up with things you wouldn't if you're in the same tuning all the time.
You did not play the low string? that's what that guitar specialty is. It sounded like a regular guitar ) :
Well, that would be ONE approach.
Now: listen! (Replay)
I have a baritone acoustic and it’s great... just makes me play differently and sounds awesome when playing acoustic sets with another “normal” guitar.
A baritone guitar is like having a capo at the minus-5th fret. You know how to transpose for the capo in the + direction, you just have to extend that to the - direction.
Not even a guitarist, I'm a bassist and keyboardist but even I want one of these bad boys. If you had a six string bass and tuned the last two strings (G and C) a half-step down then you would have an octave below a baritone. Neat thought experiments like that always get my creative juices flowing