I absolutely LOVE your design with that thinner stream. It actually has real world application and can hold enough fuel to make it somewhat long term useable.
Its insane how much energy such a device would need. Same thing goes for something like a starship. For an example: the Nostromo from Alien had a 3.4 TERAwatt reactor, which allowed it to produce enough thrust to lift its 65.000 tons of the ground. For reference, 3.4 terawatts was the average GLOBAL energy production of 2022. You need the entire global energy production to lift a single relatively small starship of the ground.
3.4 Tera watts is roughly equivalent to 15 grams of lithium hydride being converted into helium, every second. Of course I have no idea how the ship could process that amount of power without burning itself up.
@@deltab9768 For comparison: the Saturn Vs first stage produced roughly 190 gigawatts of energy. Of course the Saturn V had the luxury of using the cryogenic fuel as coolant and turning the energy intro thrust basically directly, but it shouldnt be completely impossible for us to harness such energy in other forms. The biggest problem would likely be the massive radiation from the reactor, even if using aneutronic fusion. Regarding the Nostromo: I think the lore book states that it used the reaction mass as coolant during atmospheric flight, but I dont know how it cooled the reactor in space. Even if it had a rediculous efficiency of 99,9% it would still produce 3,4 GW of waste heat that you can hardly get rid off.
This lad makes one video for the equivalent of a lot of projects, like a lot. Exemple : press for polymer film forming injection moulding valves a light saber ALL IN ONE VIDEO, and i bet i missed a lot of them…
I am a bit perplexed by the amount of trouble you had with dealing with Acetone. You can get EPDM tube (water cooling stuff tends to be more flexible) that is quite flexible or Latex surgical tubing. There is also the option of using the components in those cheap acetone pumps. Mcmaster seems to have a wide selection of tubing. You could consider a linear peristaltic pump for your form factor.
Last thing i wanted to add is those cheap water pumps you can get all over aliexpress. I don't think that they use any plastic that would not work for acetone. And if they did just machine a replacement.
@@ExcessiveOverkill What compelled you to choose such a difficult to work with fuel? Seems like that could have easily addressed your woes and weeks of work. Also why did you still need to use Viton. With Just IPA you should have been fine with rubber. You seem very intelligent and the project seems well thought out but some of your decision making and time investment does not seem to make sense with the presented information. I am all for makeing things overly complicated especially for personal project but without the context of why just does not seem smart.
@Ender_Wiggin I skipped over a lot of the reasons. Acetone gave the best smooth blue flame of everything we tested. And xylene gave the exact opposite, it was super bright and flame looking but had a super smooth stream. Mixing them would give you a super bright but smooth flame. We switched to just gasoline with isopropanol and it’s alright but not as good as the original mix. We still use viton so we can use xylene, gasoline, and isopropanol
@@ExcessiveOverkill Well very cool. Well if you are going over kill or overly complicated show that! Otherwise what is the point. These thoughts are valuable and sort of the point of you name. After you presented the reasoning, showing how you made it work with a zero compromises solution shows you skill, determination and work ethic! Any way just my two cents. Love the video and can't wait for more!!
really loved the style of this video. while the concept was simple, and has been done before, I really enjoyed your take on it. watching the process of how you got there, without overkill editing and clickbait thumbnails. two thumbs up and a sub from me, awesome work.
Nice! I'm glad you finally found a working configuration :D also quite a complex and impressive build! I also want to build a lightsaber, but I'm planning on making one that can actually cut things, a lot like the hacksmiths one, I have several designs, and not nearly enough time to work on them, but I hope to eventually make them. my favorite design incorporates an oxy-carbon fuel source with a very high energy density, and an insane flame temperature ~6,000F. I need some custom ceramics and extremely insulating fiber insulators to make it.
This is the first video of yours that I've seen and I have to say that the channel name is extremely accurate. The amount of effort you've put into this project is unbelievable, far more than I have put into basically any single project ever
Just WOW!! This Endurance to get it work. Really Great. Cant wait to see Version 2. My only Idea to Seal the Leaks between the 2 Parts would be to use metal and then lapping the sealing surfaces instead using Plastic Parts and Seals. Same for the Ball, Grinding and lapping the Contactzone with another Ball of Same Diameter.
This would put the frighteners on Lord Vader 🤣 Bring back a few uncomfortable memories! Excellent engineering for the miniaturisation, its very interesting seeing what didnt work.
Excellent job! I think with the system you developed, if you had 5-8 streams, it would look like a "movie" lightsaber. Six streams would give it the "girth" that we see in the movies! Especially if you stuck with the hotter (bluer) temps (colors), it would avoid that "flame-lapping" effect I was seeing. Then just apply some of the color chemicals you mentioned at 9:50 and you will hit pay dirt!
if that thing is pressurized, could you apply some sort of filament to it that would extend the blade out further that starts at the pummel then when its engaged fills with the gas and allows the gas to expand out on all sides sort of like a soaker hose and is ignited so its blade is more robust but still can burn and hit things like your current one?
I'm wondering about using lasers, say two beams at an angle & where they meet are in opposite phase to cancel the beams out. Or a central beam & the ones around it tuned so they meet the central beam in an opposite phase.
One way of producing ball check valves so they seat right is to set the ball in the valve and hit it with a punch. This creates a basically custom seal and is how it's done in some saftey valves/pressure relief valves. Works in brass and should work in aluminium, not sure about iron or steel, atleast with normal hardened balls.
A hardened ball bearing will impart dents into most steel, at least unhardened steel... Aluminium and any other soft material is no issue... The only issue with hard steel is that if the steel is too hard, or better said too brittle, it wont impart a dent, but will shatter the steel, but a high quality mill vise with 58HRC jaws will still receive brinelling from ball bearings if you use them without grinding a flat on them to hold irregular parts... A ball point contact with pressure, caused by a hardened ball bearing will give a custom seat in most materials that are ductile... Steel will only make a shallower dent... The term brinelling in itself refers to checking the hardness of a part of any material with applying set pressure with a steel ball onto the surface being checked, so yeah, a hard ball will definitely work on steel... Brass, bronze, copper and alu are equivalent to plastic for the needs of impressing a round seat with a ball - they offer minimal resistance...
Great work! Super clean. What about using the silicone hose for nitro fuel rc cars? I’ve used it to great success with my pyro systems with methanol and butane mixes. There’s a heavy duty variant used for actual race cars. Ignition in these systems can be aided greatly by adding airflow either by using passive Bernoulli principal tricks or in the case of fire saber I’m working on a tiny edf. Ignition without plenty of oxygen ain’t gonna happen no matter how hot you get.
Did you consider centrifugal pumps? It could be driven with magnet pairing so the motor could be outside of the fuel area or it could have the magnets inside the fuel area while the coils are outside of it.
He needs high pressure and low flow. Centrifugal pumps don't do that very well, they're better suited to high flow and low pressure applications. Theoretically, I think he was on the right track with the triplex diaphragm design with a fixed angle cam. That would get him everything he needs including low pulsation for a nice smooth stream, but getting the materials to work reliably at that tiny scale is probably just not possible. Source: I work for an engineering company that manufactures industrial positive displacement pumps, mostly triplex and quintiplex diaphragm pumps, but we have some peristaltic models too.
I'm at the part where you're talking about the balls not sealing well. It makes me wonder if you could have simply reached in with a long pin punch and just gave it a few taps on an anvil with a hammer to create a "seat" so to speak. Kudos for even attempting it though. :)
Maybe, that was considered, but it would make the body much longer as space is needed for the threaded rod, and it would also need at seal to contain the fuel under pressure. I really wanted to avoid the chances of a seal failing and leaking fuel all over my hand, that’s why the only seal this version has is under suction, worst thing that could happen is some air gets sucked in with the fuel.
once the plasma burning table i work on had the cutting head fail. it blew out the side, it put out a perfect lightsaber it grew to 6 feet moved around and shrunk to nothing. but it was it.
what if like you put metal around the fire wouldn’t that like heat up the metal to the point where it could actually cut stuff like wood or other stuff
I have subscribed I will be looking out for your next version and I will 100% be purchasing this as soon as it is available to force wielding consumers like myself
hell you dont even need to have a support take like three pieces of nichrome and interlace them and it becomes more rigid, thatd be cool if you coll make a mechanicism that would wind and unwind that until a light saber, then push the power through
Why such complications? You just need to make a screw drive to the pushing piston and that’s it. In addition, with such a piston you can know how much fuel is left and control the flow of liquid. The stepper motor needs to be made with a thread in the center to push the screw. And to reduce the space occupied by the extended screw, you need to arrange all the electronics and batteries in a circle with a hole in the center. The only thing you need to think about with this design is how to arrange the electronics and batteries so that there is a hole in the center.
My guess on the check valves is either not enough spring force or that by making it not sit on the hard edge with your second design, you actually created a different problem that let fuel squeeze past.
you have the tools, have you thought of a refracted high power laser inside an airfilled retractable tube? think flimsy vacuum tube and high power laser, more dangerous than fire too. containment of lazers is the real issue I cant figure out. Love the project hope to see more soon!
The cutting ability from lasers comes from all the energy being in such a small area. Just having a straight beam the width of a lightsaber blade would reduce the energy density so mu you couldn’t cut anything. Let alone a full blade. And lasers are really big and expensive lol
Instead of using the battery for ignition, you could use whatever that crystal is that produces electricity when impacted. This way, you could use one button for both ignition and fuel, won’t have to worry about a constant arc, one less thing to drain the battery, and would be safer from accidental use as it would take a good amount of force to press the switch but wouldn’t take much force at all to keep it held
so you were using acetone as a fuel but couldn't find any soft material it wouldn't ruin. silicone is mostly acetone resistant (at room temperature) and comes in a range of durometers
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I absolutely LOVE your design with that thinner stream. It actually has real world application and can hold enough fuel to make it somewhat long term useable.
You put a lot of work into these more recent videos, looks great. Low Flo had me dying for some stupid reason.
Its insane how much energy such a device would need. Same thing goes for something like a starship. For an example: the Nostromo from Alien had a 3.4 TERAwatt reactor, which allowed it to produce enough thrust to lift its 65.000 tons of the ground. For reference, 3.4 terawatts was the average GLOBAL energy production of 2022. You need the entire global energy production to lift a single relatively small starship of the ground.
That's our current technology. Our celestial visitors don't do it that way.
3.4 Tera watts is roughly equivalent to 15 grams of lithium hydride being converted into helium, every second.
Of course I have no idea how the ship could process that amount of power without burning itself up.
That's pretty cool, I always look forward to advances in energy production
@@deltab9768 For comparison: the Saturn Vs first stage produced roughly 190 gigawatts of energy. Of course the Saturn V had the luxury of using the cryogenic fuel as coolant and turning the energy intro thrust basically directly, but it shouldnt be completely impossible for us to harness such energy in other forms. The biggest problem would likely be the massive radiation from the reactor, even if using aneutronic fusion.
Regarding the Nostromo: I think the lore book states that it used the reaction mass as coolant during atmospheric flight, but I dont know how it cooled the reactor in space. Even if it had a rediculous efficiency of 99,9% it would still produce 3,4 GW of waste heat that you can hardly get rid off.
This is the best fire pit and grill lighter anyone's ever invented
So... you made a pocket flamethrower. That's *phenomenal*. I literally cannot wait to buy one of these.
I want one for burning weeds.
I know there’s better solutions but this looks more fun
I want to burn my neighbors, nicely.
Cheap version
Wd40 with a lighter = a good time for all
You sir, are a genius and highly motivated and resilient! Great content
This lad makes one video for the equivalent of a lot of projects, like a lot.
Exemple :
press for polymer film forming
injection moulding valves
a light saber
ALL IN ONE VIDEO, and i bet i missed a lot of them…
This is awesome! Mate you put in a huge amount of time and engineering into your projects!
This was super cool to watch, cant wait to see the next version!
You deserve way more subscribers! The skill is actually crazy, keep it up!
Amazing effort and pretty cool results. Love the Stuff Made Here reference
Love it good way to express your skills as usual most of the fun is in the development. Well done.
This is one of the best workers just in general he puts in a lot of effort and I like that I hope to see more
I am a bit perplexed by the amount of trouble you had with dealing with Acetone. You can get EPDM tube (water cooling stuff tends to be more flexible) that is quite flexible or Latex surgical tubing. There is also the option of using the components in those cheap acetone pumps. Mcmaster seems to have a wide selection of tubing. You could consider a linear peristaltic pump for your form factor.
Last thing i wanted to add is those cheap water pumps you can get all over aliexpress. I don't think that they use any plastic that would not work for acetone. And if they did just machine a replacement.
It wasn’t just acetone, it was acetone AND xylene. You can get rubbers that handle each easily, but ones that do both are very rare and expensive.
@@ExcessiveOverkill What compelled you to choose such a difficult to work with fuel? Seems like that could have easily addressed your woes and weeks of work. Also why did you still need to use Viton. With Just IPA you should have been fine with rubber.
You seem very intelligent and the project seems well thought out but some of your decision making and time investment does not seem to make sense with the presented information. I am all for makeing things overly complicated especially for personal project but without the context of why just does not seem smart.
@Ender_Wiggin I skipped over a lot of the reasons. Acetone gave the best smooth blue flame of everything we tested. And xylene gave the exact opposite, it was super bright and flame looking but had a super smooth stream. Mixing them would give you a super bright but smooth flame. We switched to just gasoline with isopropanol and it’s alright but not as good as the original mix. We still use viton so we can use xylene, gasoline, and isopropanol
@@ExcessiveOverkill Well very cool. Well if you are going over kill or overly complicated show that! Otherwise what is the point. These thoughts are valuable and sort of the point of you name. After you presented the reasoning, showing how you made it work with a zero compromises solution shows you skill, determination and work ethic! Any way just my two cents. Love the video and can't wait for more!!
this is soo underrated you put a lot of effort nice
really loved the style of this video. while the concept was simple, and has been done before, I really enjoyed your take on it. watching the process of how you got there, without overkill editing and clickbait thumbnails. two thumbs up and a sub from me, awesome work.
Nice! I'm glad you finally found a working configuration :D also quite a complex and impressive build! I also want to build a lightsaber, but I'm planning on making one that can actually cut things, a lot like the hacksmiths one, I have several designs, and not nearly enough time to work on them, but I hope to eventually make them. my favorite design incorporates an oxy-carbon fuel source with a very high energy density, and an insane flame temperature ~6,000F. I need some custom ceramics and extremely insulating fiber insulators to make it.
Liked and subbed 🏆
I enjoyed learning from all the trial and error of experimentation
Thank you Good Sir 🎩
how is this not viral yet
you won an instant sub
This is the first video of yours that I've seen and I have to say that the channel name is extremely accurate. The amount of effort you've put into this project is unbelievable, far more than I have put into basically any single project ever
Just WOW!!
This Endurance to get it work. Really Great. Cant wait to see Version 2.
My only Idea to Seal the Leaks between the 2 Parts would be to use metal and then lapping the sealing surfaces instead using Plastic Parts and Seals. Same for the Ball, Grinding and lapping the Contactzone with another Ball of Same Diameter.
This would put the frighteners on Lord Vader 🤣 Bring back a few uncomfortable memories! Excellent engineering for the miniaturisation, its very interesting seeing what didnt work.
Excellent job!
I think with the system you developed, if you had 5-8 streams, it would look like a "movie" lightsaber. Six streams would give it the "girth" that we see in the movies! Especially if you stuck with the hotter (bluer) temps (colors), it would avoid that "flame-lapping" effect I was seeing.
Then just apply some of the color chemicals you mentioned at 9:50 and you will hit pay dirt!
amazing build!
The fact that your building a pump and each part of the pump testing molds... i mean its crazy ive never seen anyone do that. Super koo!
Really cool! And sleek design=)
this is so incredible, sick man
Great job!
if that thing is pressurized, could you apply some sort of filament to it that would extend the blade out further that starts at the pummel then when its engaged fills with the gas and allows the gas to expand out on all sides sort of like a soaker hose and is ignited so its blade is more robust but still can burn and hit things like your current one?
awesome work congrats
I'm wondering about using lasers, say two beams at an angle & where they meet are in opposite phase to cancel the beams out. Or a central beam & the ones around it tuned so they meet the central beam in an opposite phase.
Fascinating. I am curious how many of these have been sold.
One way of producing ball check valves so they seat right is to set the ball in the valve and hit it with a punch. This creates a basically custom seal and is how it's done in some saftey valves/pressure relief valves. Works in brass and should work in aluminium, not sure about iron or steel, atleast with normal hardened balls.
A hardened ball bearing will impart dents into most steel, at least unhardened steel... Aluminium and any other soft material is no issue... The only issue with hard steel is that if the steel is too hard, or better said too brittle, it wont impart a dent, but will shatter the steel, but a high quality mill vise with 58HRC jaws will still receive brinelling from ball bearings if you use them without grinding a flat on them to hold irregular parts... A ball point contact with pressure, caused by a hardened ball bearing will give a custom seat in most materials that are ductile... Steel will only make a shallower dent... The term brinelling in itself refers to checking the hardness of a part of any material with applying set pressure with a steel ball onto the surface being checked, so yeah, a hard ball will definitely work on steel... Brass, bronze, copper and alu are equivalent to plastic for the needs of impressing a round seat with a ball - they offer minimal resistance...
Joined the Patreon. This is an awesome project.
Sucker born every second.
Dude this is awesome
You deserve way more subscribers
Looking forward to the 7MW video!
Oh yeah and I wonder if its possible to dissolve a cupric solution in the fuel to make the flame green =3
SOD/s, my new favorite power measurement unit
This is damn incredible.
Dude that’s awesome
Did you manage to produce a version 2 ??
Great work! Super clean. What about using the silicone hose for nitro fuel rc cars? I’ve used it to great success with my pyro systems with methanol and butane mixes. There’s a heavy duty variant used for actual race cars. Ignition in these systems can be aided greatly by adding airflow either by using passive Bernoulli principal tricks or in the case of fire saber I’m working on a tiny edf. Ignition without plenty of oxygen ain’t gonna happen no matter how hot you get.
nice work
most underrated channel
Holy shit... this is genius engineering at work wow
WTF this channel is so underrated!
Did you consider centrifugal pumps? It could be driven with magnet pairing so the motor could be outside of the fuel area or it could have the magnets inside the fuel area while the coils are outside of it.
He needs high pressure and low flow. Centrifugal pumps don't do that very well, they're better suited to high flow and low pressure applications. Theoretically, I think he was on the right track with the triplex diaphragm design with a fixed angle cam. That would get him everything he needs including low pulsation for a nice smooth stream, but getting the materials to work reliably at that tiny scale is probably just not possible.
Source: I work for an engineering company that manufactures industrial positive displacement pumps, mostly triplex and quintiplex diaphragm pumps, but we have some peristaltic models too.
Insane!🔥
Amazing!
Very nice miniature handheld flamethrower.
I'm at the part where you're talking about the balls not sealing well. It makes me wonder if you could have simply reached in with a long pin punch and just gave it a few taps on an anvil with a hammer to create a "seat" so to speak. Kudos for even attempting it though. :)
Stupid question but cant you use an electric motor with a gear box to move the piston from alan pans version?
Maybe, that was considered, but it would make the body much longer as space is needed for the threaded rod, and it would also need at seal to contain the fuel under pressure. I really wanted to avoid the chances of a seal failing and leaking fuel all over my hand, that’s why the only seal this version has is under suction, worst thing that could happen is some air gets sucked in with the fuel.
once the plasma burning table i work on had the cutting head fail. it blew out the side, it put out a perfect lightsaber it grew to 6 feet moved around and shrunk to nothing. but it was it.
Is there any video about the new version?
Couldn't you have used silicone as an elastic material? From what I heard it's mostly inert, so it should work, right?
Dude made the coolest grill lighter I’ve ever seen
what if like you put metal around the fire wouldn’t that like heat up the metal to the point where it could actually cut stuff like wood or other stuff
One's engineering skills are off the chart
can't add vibrations for some effects?
Imagine how much work and testing did the real lightsabers require !
I have subscribed I will be looking out for your next version and I will 100% be purchasing this as soon as it is available to force wielding consumers like myself
This is too cool! I know i want one but i live in a city where "fun" things are either banned or taxed through the roof.
I'm glad Dum-E was able to move on and find a job after Tony passed away.
I need a flow toy made like this 😮
That low flow was funny
thats awesome
This makes me want to make a shitty simpler version that might possibly explode.
Could a light saber be created with the same design principle as a gamma knife?
The problem with the metal valve
Is that spherical bearings won’t seal a conical hole
I shall try spherical valve seats on the next one
@@ExcessiveOverkillis v2 out yet?
The v2 prototype must've scared him, and the military generals trying to buy the technology
hell you dont even need to have a support take like three pieces of nichrome and interlace them and it becomes more rigid, thatd be cool if you coll make a mechanicism that would wind and unwind that until a light saber, then push the power through
Deserves more views
Why such complications? You just need to make a screw drive to the pushing piston and that’s it. In addition, with such a piston you can know how much fuel is left and control the flow of liquid. The stepper motor needs to be made with a thread in the center to push the screw. And to reduce the space occupied by the extended screw, you need to arrange all the electronics and batteries in a circle with a hole in the center. The only thing you need to think about with this design is how to arrange the electronics and batteries so that there is a hole in the center.
What made screw or gear pumps worse than diaphragm ones? They don't require check valves nor flexible elements.
I they require seals, and very high precision parts.
7:00, ah McMaster-carr. truly the only friend an engineer could ever need or want
Maybe warming the fuel help increase vapor production when relieved creating a more reliable flame?
What would be unholy but very entertaining
Steel tube and HFVTTC
Awesome! It would be even cooler if you fit it inside the original lightsaber designs
Very dope!
My guess on the check valves is either not enough spring force or that by making it not sit on the hard edge with your second design, you actually created a different problem that let fuel squeeze past.
CO2 cartridge is a simple answer to replace pump part.
Little, cheap, available everywhere, chemically safe source of pressure. Big enough pressure!
hey at least u made a joint lighter from hell
Caraca, quanto trabalho! parabéns. Abraços
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A drill will never cut cleanly enough for a valve seat.
You need to lap that surface.
Unless you form the seat with the ball using a pin punch and a small hammer. Replace the ball afterwards of course.
you have the tools, have you thought of a refracted high power laser inside an airfilled retractable tube? think flimsy vacuum tube and high power laser, more dangerous than fire too. containment of lazers is the real issue I cant figure out.
Love the project hope to see more soon!
The cutting ability from lasers comes from all the energy being in such a small area. Just having a straight beam the width of a lightsaber blade would reduce the energy density so mu you couldn’t cut anything. Let alone a full blade. And lasers are really big and expensive lol
you could have used a 3d printer nossel for the fuel to flow out. you can get them with 0.1 to 0.4mm holes
How about lasers and mirrors🤔 it's bend and mess up the reflection when it hits stuff but it could be cool.
Have you considered using diethylether as a fuel?
You made a really neat poket beehive killer
i just like the engineering on a total scionce fiction device. 😊
Instead of using the battery for ignition, you could use whatever that crystal is that produces electricity when impacted. This way, you could use one button for both ignition and fuel, won’t have to worry about a constant arc, one less thing to drain the battery, and would be safer from accidental use as it would take a good amount of force to press the switch but wouldn’t take much force at all to keep it held
The flame isn’t self sustaining(yet), so it needs a constant arc to stay lit.
so you were using acetone as a fuel but couldn't find any soft material it wouldn't ruin. silicone is mostly acetone resistant (at room temperature) and comes in a range of durometers
The concept of a flaming sword of light has been around way longer than 40 years.
Dude I want to see that 7MW thing. 😂
Sick lighter :D
that thing would be breat for lighting up campfires, especially really big ones
very nice rendition of rebels lightsaber. let's call it canon
My guy your going to sell a ton of these.
Very cool
I now have a irrational fear of mustard...