There is a reason they don't really use this method it was ingenious but only works at certain angles. Watch the DVD at the 1 hour 31 minutes mark during the obi Wan Vader duel. You can still see r the reflection cut out and fliicker
Sorry, i can't stand this man :( It's bad because it's not for a good reason : I find it super annoying that he ALWAYS has to modify his voice and make it deeper than it actually is. We get it dude, you have a deep voice, get over it ^^ His voice sounds actually better when he speaks normally. To me, he's giving the impression he has something to over compensate on...
@@karmabook2702 It's called playing a role. A lot of you tubers comedians and actors do it because the majority of people like it. And in real life they're completely different and maybe more normal or even weirder.
@@karmabook2702 You do realize that voices naturally fluctuate, right? My voice can sound incredibly low or very high depending on mood, volume, energy levels, etc. Not to mention he's also an actor both in his films and his RUclips career, and he does it because he likes to portray himself like that. I doubt he's self-conscious about his voice or trying to compensate for anything, I think he just likes to have variation in his voice for comedic effect
@@Vermouth_19 ahhh dammit, I will be watching every single video when I have enough money to subscribe their website,the crew cuts and especially son of a dungeon, really like that show and give me intrest in d&d which I never knew even existed
@@patricklalhmachhuana8197best of luck, they have a free trial though so you might want to use that until you can subscribe. SOAD season 2 will launch this week too.
The original Lightsabers were flat, like a blade, and almost came to a point. You need a beam splitter glass at 45° in front of your lens in which to project your light source. This would allow you to keep your overall light level much brighter. The lightsaber will be very bright. Also, actual 3M Scotchlight reflective tape is much brighter than generic retro reflective tape. I did tests back in the 70s and the Lightsabers were almost too bright to film. I had to dim the light source way down.
@@aako-dd1ly except Adam Savage is nowhere near that egotistical. Adam gets enjoyment out of people at least trying and experimenting because that's what engineering is all about. There's no 1 way to do everything and even a master can be humbled by a novice with a creative mind and a fresh perspective.
I think that's the point and it's actually better to. It's because he's basically taking apprenticeship from them and referring to him with his number of subscribers is not the point of that.
I had this Star Wars visual dictionary as a kid that said lightsabers had a gyroscopic effect that made them more difficult to fight with than normal swords, now I'm wondering if that was based on this spinning prop
they were definitely hard to fight with in the original movie because of the spinning- Alec Guinness and David Prowse fight so gingerly with them because the blades snapped off the hilts so easily
I remember hearing about that as well, and it makes so much more sense than them simply being weightless and nothing else. The way that they're used in the movies has never felt like they're _just_ weightless to me, because even in the prequels you see them making very wide arcs into hard clashes all the time. This being the complete picture would make a lot more sense, and you might just be right about this being the source of that piece of lore!
@@yfrit_gg There is a bit of a debate around the weight thing. Technically, they're weightless - and you need a lot of training, skill and force skills to accurately swing a weightless blade - but they can *feel* heavier depending on the thoughts and emotions of the wielder (or not, that's not consistent). Because the blade is kind of a magnetic funnel containing plasma, they behave weirdly around ferrous metals and kinda 'bounce' off of metal even as they melt through (when you see them burn through blast doors, they go in point first for this reason). So the blades don't "weigh" anything but that is a challenge itself, they move weirdly and of course a weightless sword with a heavy handle is hard to use. Out of canon, George Lucas specifically said he wanted the prequels to feel like a different era. In the originals, jedi and lightsabers were revered relics of a lost past while the prequels were set when they were at their prime, they swung those things around like crazy instead of the slow, 2 handed stuff originally. Which might be covering for the change in filming tech, but it's similar to why the prequel ships are all shiny and sleek vs chunky and beat up later on
I think it took them something like 2-3 years to get him on the show after first contacting him. He's abit of a legend and a busy guy. I assume there is quite abit of advance planning that goes into getting guests on their show. No argument though, would love to see more videos of Adam on here.
When we were kids, my step brother told me they made lightsabers with a spinning flashlight and glass beads... and I always thought he was full of it. I still think he was just accidentally right.
4:45 I love that Mark is just putting on a band-aid in the background. He's such a great addition to the channel, I can't wait to see what sort of solo content he starts creating! Edit: Excited to get my Fischbach & Watson Do-It-Yourself Guillotine woodworking kit! Really though, it would be super fun to see the two of them work on a carpentry project together sometime
I agree but I also feel like if they would have use marks at the end with the more powerful light with the blue saber insert I feel like it would have been great
Mark adds so much to these videos. Mainly because it adds a second person with an engineering background who approaches things very different than Wren.
Iirc, Mark doesn't actually have an Engineering degree. He just went to engineering school, but never finished because his RUclips channel took off, and he decided to focus on that instead.
Markiplier, working with Corridor, wearing a Game Grumps shirt. I fucking love how much of a Bro Mark is and all the interconnected love shared by the channels.
@awnx ruyv Imagine if this was combined with the Neopixel tech used in modern commercial lightsabers - maybe an LED strip pulsating and subtly changing colour while also being spun on a motorized axel like in Mark's design could straight-up emulate Kylo Ren's saber in-camera!
For the spinning LEDs, I believe they make powered bearings. IE, small ring inside, large ring outside, conductive ball bearings in between. Run power source to the outer ring which doesn't move, wire LEDs to the inner ring which moves with the saber blade.
Mark is such a great addition to the team and Wrens enthusiasm for any project he takes on is contagious. Jordan holding the lightsaber looks both stunning and hard as nails
A couple ideas on how to make the lightsabers less fragile: - They make reflective spray paint. (Not sure if it comes in different colours.) This way you could use a sturdier object, like a broom handle (maybe carved down a bit). - It may not actually need to *spin*. You might be able to get the same effect just by making it *vibrate*. If you know what I mean.
@@litjellyfish No, they realize in the video since the tape's always just reflecting the light in the same direction it doesn't really work that way (that's why they make it have a changing width)
That type of vibration is made by spinning an off centered weight quickly, the only advantage is that that it can be more compact motor so smaller in size.
They have retroreflective particles in road paint too in some areas. Around where I live they do. The paint markings even light up and glow under your headlights.
And driving into a patch of older road where they haven't done that (or haven't refreshed the paint as recently, don't know how quickly it wears out) really highlights (hah) how effective it is.
Yeah, in my area it's really common for them to put reflective little flags on the lines. Instead of repainting all the roads, they'll put little flaps about 5 feet apart or so, so that as you drive, it'll show the path the road takes so you don't fly off into the ditch. 😂
yeah, they put it in this thermoplastic paint that you have to get super hot to apply. You can totally get it and use it, just a bit of a learning curve.
Having Jordan pose with the sabers is like a continuation of the realistic saber fight choreo video where she as the former janitor accepts the invitation to the saber training school.
I love how dynamic these look, even when Jordyn is basically holding it still. But you are running into the same problem that they did back in 1977, that these are pretty fragile. And in an age where we've been spoiled by things like Scene 38 and even Darth Vader showing up in Jedi: Fallen Order, that fragility isn't a concern. Those creators can make it look like the characters are putting serious force behind their lightsabers, it makes me wonder what would be possible if someone applied Mark's design to something that had more than 50 dollars to work out this prop.
It could be much simpler and thus sturdier varying the intensity of the retroreflected light rather than spinning the tape. I'm sure it would be possible to either manually vary the light intensity, or even automate the process with the equivalent of a noise pattern , like you can do in an analog synthetizer.
@@maximeteppe7627 Yeah, my first thought was instead of having the blade spin what if the light was kind of like a strobe or varied in intensity. Obviously won't be the exact same effect, but might look just as good, so I agree!
@@KairuHakubi One way i can think of to fix THAT issue is to use colored reflective tape, and that way you can flash two corresponding color lights... hopefully the colored tape acts as a filter. If it works well enough that most of the strobing effect is from the right light source, you could get a strobe effect that is de-synchronised, as long as you have no more than 3 fighters, and it''d be easier if their sabers were red, green or blue. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that polarized light would probably be of little help there.
3:21 the spinning is to hide the texture of the reflective tape and to make it have that energy look to it. But it doesnt even need to spin fast, just enough to cause motion blur
Wren, use a metal dowel to conduct the electricity for the led's, use a radial ball bearing to connect the power from the battery back to the dowel. Bonus, you get sparks when you touch sabers. (Not saying what the safety margin is, but that's another issue to tackle another day :)
Glad we finally get to see the fabled workbench! He's been talking about the workbench and the forbidden carpentry technique of "wood-lengthening" that he used for a while now. lol Looks really good! Great work, Mark! 👏👏👏
glad to see more Mark on the channel, and more DIY builds! THANK YOU MARK for getting some legit safety products in there. First Aid/eyewash are critical! might want to think about adding a grab n go trauma bag fellas, with tourniquets/quik clot and such.
Would love to see how it'd look if instead of a rotational motor, there's a fan blowing into circulation of a clear tube, many pieces of cut up reflective tape.
When Mark the Intern is really concentrating on building something his voice takes on almost exactly the same demeanor as Jamie Hyneman.. and am all for that.
This is honestly really cool, re-making one of Sci-Fi's coolest practical effects. I love it, I love this channel. Corridor doing anything Star Wars is just a banger.
I love the 3 sided design from 8:30 - 8:37 It has just the minimun amount of changing in profile needed and also somehow flickers between red and orange depending on the angle of the light. This makes it look like as if it had an unstable crystle or something.
I'm so proud of Mark's work in the workshop. Caught the livestream where he was talking about how excited he was (and how necessary it was) to renovate it 💖
Video idea: I think a sound effects challenge would be really cool. Like, perhaps you could have a series of sounds you preselect (from movies, shows, etc), then 2 or more guys can go head to head trying to recreate those sounds with practical effects, using the tools, object, materials, etc. that are available just in the building. I did something like this in school, and it's really fun!! It's a great way to look at your supplies in a different way, trying to figure out the different sounds you can get from daily use objects. I hope this goes into consideration!!
I actually did know about the original lightsaber design and that it was too fragile to use, but not the details. Love Wren's breakdowns of the science in these videos! Edit: okay yeah I imagine the torque and gyroscopic forces at the end of the blades was a real problem during filming. That spinning would cause a lot of issues for stability.
16:55 one thing, I'm sure as many others have thought of, LED stripe on one side(or two opposite sides), wireless charging coil around the hilt and bottom of the blade. if the juice is enough I'm sure it'll power the LED stripe as a separated clutch gears within 1mm or so. I mean think of the pass through distance for a Qi charging!
I believe "Star Odyssey" also used retro-reflective tape on planks to create sci-fi swords. No word as to how the movie was actually made, but I doubt they had the time or budget or skill for anything else. You can see a few segments where the swords aren't reflecting anything as well. This would also be a cool way to make laser-bolts in stop motion, or even in live action. Turn off the camera, take a second of video with a "laser" stretched across the set, turn off the camera, video normally. The sword blades in the original Star Wars kept breaking, & they rotoscoped the final footage anyways, to give them color & to cover segments where there wasn't enough light reflected off the blades; that's why they didn't use the retro-reflective blades in later films.
I'm glad Jordan is in this video. In my head canon, she graduated from the school in the video "To The DEATH" and this reflects the continuation of her story as a sequel.
9:15 Fun fact: if that dowel is made of balsa, it's not actually a softwood, it's a hardwood. Softwoods aren't necessarily soft, nor hardwoods necessarily hard. Hardwood just describes wood that comes from trees that have fruit around their seeds (angiosperms), whereas softwood trees have "naked" seeds (gymnosperms) it took me until my mid thirties to learn this fact.
This was an awesome video. You both did what every Padawan does. You built your own lightsaber. This was the perfect video for me today. Someone I love just passed, and I needed a good escape from reality for a bit. Thanks guys.
the reason that they stopped using these is because they were very flimsy which is (at lest partly) why the fight in ep4 was so slow and I think George Lucas got annoyed at Alec Guinness and the actor for vader because they were touching the lightsbers in the fight scene.
David Prowse, he deserves the credit that was taken from him, and from a documentary I watched included with a dvd they were glass rods and the would crack and shatter
The way the light reflects off Jordan's retina at 16:00 and how it disappears when she blinks... That is pure movie magic! The light sabers are really cool, but those three seconds is the best shot in the entire video.
Hang on, I've only ever seen that in one place before, and that's in my eyes since getting lens implants.. surely she's too young and healthy to need those, i had a bad reaction to medication that shut off the lens-clearifying hormones. Is that just what a normal eye looks like if the light hits it just right sometimes? Humans sure as hell don't have a tapetum lucidum, so... I'm pretty sure that's a very distinctive thing just for lens implants. When I was a bouncer at a bar, a drunk ophthalmology student noticed them and recognized it, even in his inebriated state..
i know it's a very small easy thing.. but god damn that transition saber sound was *chef kiss* at 8:02. Props to the editor for the whole video actually.
I always thought it was a carbon fiber rod with reflective tape length ways not round and round, with gaps in between to cause that pulsing as it spins.
Guys, take Mark's original blade ( 2:47 ) cut chunks of the tape off at regular intervals on four sides say, 1 inch diameter rough circles about 3-4 inches apart, but staggered so the front and back are the same position and the side chunks fall between the front and back chunks, or cut the chunks out so they have a vaguely spiralling pattern as they go up the blade... and spin that! Or take a fresh round piece of dowel and tape it so it has that layout. Maybe even take Marks first go, but rather than spiral the tape so it covers the whole length, apply the tape so you leave a roughly 5mm (1/4 inch) gap in the tape. Either way I think being able to use a solid dowel, rather than something hand manufactured, will help with stability when it's spinning.
This reminds me of the glowing bow in Dr Who's "Silver Nemesis" 25th-anniversary episode. They coated a bow, arrow, and "living statue" with Front Axial Projection paint and a pulsating ring light was mounted over the camera lens which made only those objects glow. The effect still looks great.
I feel like they could easily upgrade this design using modern lightsaber parts. If they managed to make a spinning version with a neopixel blade, itd probably look amazing on camera
Spinning a neopixel blade wouldn't really add much, if anything, to its look. Adding LEDs (whether neopixel or otherwise) is going to make the saber an environmental light source. So what you want is a very narrow neopixel blade with a similarly small blade cover. Add some fins with reflective paint (or tape, but paint would probably work better). Make the whole fitting - or at least the outer shell, you can probably keep the LED part still if that doesn't cause any issues - spin. Now you'll get the LED blade providing physical light on the environment, and the in-camera effect from the spinning reflective fins which are (hopefully) narrow enough not to block enough of the light from inside the blade to create visible shadows.
@@cloudmaster182 They specified the blade. And did so because of the fact that neopixel sabers have their LEDs lining the blade instead of being embedded in the hilt.
The fact that Markiplier keeps showing up in these videos is honestly one of the most hilarious things ever cause I somehow ALWAYS forget that he's been working with Corridor for a while now
Looks like you took more than just the video with you from the Adam Savage's shop. A maker's bug. Fantastic! This content is great. There's never too much videos of people loving making stuff. Your unique possibility to combine making with world class effects has so much potential! Looking forward what you guys will come up with in this format in the future!
When seeing the saber under 144p (the original films quality) It doesn't look half bad! But seeing how they would hit eachother with a spinning plate kinda brings up the risk factor. And budget.
A great practical vs digital would be the characters of different sizes interacting (aka hobbits and men). In LotR they did a lot of practical forced perspective shots, but the hobbit did more digital and green screen. Which is easier to do? What are the trade offs between the two? Loved the video and the channel!
cgi I think u can fix things in post. practical has a lot of pre planning and everything has to go smoothly. harder to fix in post unless it's cgi or manipulated. but for actions practical u can see a big difference in their performance
It would have been cool to see the "slow ignition" of the light saber as they did it in the movie - where Alec Guinness just held it so that the blade was pointed directly at the camera (and therefore not visible), then just slowly turned it to the side and it looks like the blade extends gradually.
@@haveidonethisbefore I think he’s referring to the scene where vader faces obi wan on the death star. i remember it being quite slow. that said it’s been ages since i’ve seen the scene
@@haveidonethisbefore They showed it in the old behind the scenes docs. The blade extending is done that way, but probably they had to do a cut & swap the sabers because it never was truly 100% aligned with the camera or some other movement was there that wouldn't have hidden the reflective tape.
I remember playing with the original light sabre toy when i was about 5 (1985) at this street party, how those things would bend on contact! i thought they were called life savers for so long. love the vid guys!
I just finished installing a lightsaber with all the bells and whistles, but it's super interesting to see where they started! Something as simple as reflective tape being used for something like this is super neat! It's actually still used today by some lightsaber enthusiasts because the light bounces off the white polycarbonate blade that's commonly used on most lightsabers! It's very humbling knowing that even though I only got into installing sabers a year or so ago, there's over 70 years of lightsaber-building history behind me!
Wish they would but sadly they can't afford Mark since his pay grade in other companies is just off of this world lol he also mentioned that on a podcast that the crew can't afford him.
I selected this thinking it was clickbait, and that there was going to be the traditional it's not CGI it's computer assisted compositing or something like that.. My God am I excited for the ride at this point. I'm kind of loving this tear that y'all are going down with trying to practically solve a lot of the uncanny valley effects of low budget special effects and digital in general.. details matter, and when something doesn't happen that you're expecting it it really does undermine any effort that may have gone on, and then the scene in general because it's not out loud but it's sitting there being uncomfortable feeling wrong.. and not in a good way like a bad movie or excuse me experimental art film.
One amazing thing about the original "Star Wars" trilogy was that it used almost no computer effects at all - I think the only actual computer effect was the Death Star, but apart from that, everything was physically done in front of the camera. Even the opening crawl was a physical effect - a black piece of paper that was recorded diagonally.
My favourite practical effect is probably the landspeeders. They're just cars with mirrors taped to the sides to reflect the sand, and since a reflection of sand looks basically like seeing through to sand on the other side, it looks like they're flying.
It's actually crazy how they could accomplish so much in camera back in the day with their ingenuity
They still can and it usually has a better effect when they do but at this point it’s easier to use cgi for a lot of effects
True ingenuity comes from restrictions
CGI requires just as much ingenuity as well...
@@kurb0 this
There is a reason they don't really use this method it was ingenious but only works at certain angles. Watch the DVD at the 1 hour 31 minutes mark during the obi Wan Vader duel. You can still see r the reflection cut out and fliicker
When Mark's no longer an intern at Corridor, I hope he comes back to visit the studio occasionally, his energy and goofiness is always fun to watch
Sorry, i can't stand this man :( It's bad because it's not for a good reason : I find it super annoying that he ALWAYS has to modify his voice and make it deeper than it actually is. We get it dude, you have a deep voice, get over it ^^ His voice sounds actually better when he speaks normally. To me, he's giving the impression he has something to over compensate on...
@@karmabook2702 It's called playing a role. A lot of you tubers comedians and actors do it because the majority of people like it. And in real life they're completely different and maybe more normal or even weirder.
@@karmabook2702 You do realize that voices naturally fluctuate, right? My voice can sound incredibly low or very high depending on mood, volume, energy levels, etc. Not to mention he's also an actor both in his films and his RUclips career, and he does it because he likes to portray himself like that. I doubt he's self-conscious about his voice or trying to compensate for anything, I think he just likes to have variation in his voice for comedic effect
@@RhiannonSmudge Atleast one person with normal working brain
@@karmabook2702 squeaker
The intern should totally start his own RUclips channel. He seems like he'd maybe get a few subscribers.
i doubt it
Um acTUALLY, 🤓
He wpuld probably only get like 3k subs tbh
The Intern Is Markapiler
@@redfiveroe1138
Who’s Mark Plier
Looks like Mark worked hard on organizing everything, but I wonder if it'll last longer than the time Clint organized everything lol
Or the time Jordan organised everything!
Or behind the scenes for the work and effort put to it aye?
@@patricklalhmachhuana8197 I figure they'll release it on the website, it's a perfect Crew Cut video
@@Vermouth_19 ahhh dammit, I will be watching every single video when I have enough money to subscribe their website,the crew cuts and especially son of a dungeon, really like that show and give me intrest in d&d which I never knew even existed
@@patricklalhmachhuana8197best of luck, they have a free trial though so you might want to use that until you can subscribe. SOAD season 2 will launch this week too.
The original Lightsabers were flat, like a blade, and almost came to a point. You need a beam splitter glass at 45° in front of your lens in which to project your light source. This would allow you to keep your overall light level much brighter. The lightsaber will be very bright. Also, actual 3M Scotchlight reflective tape is much brighter than generic retro reflective tape. I did tests back in the 70s and the Lightsabers were almost too bright to film. I had to dim the light source way down.
they need to try this!!
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70s? 1970? It's been 50 years then
@@ekayasa13 Probably around '78 or '79. A little over 40 years.
@@ekayasa13 The 70s were only 30 years ago!
Adam Savage is probably screaming at home right now wishing he was in the room making this project happen
wait and did you give it back to mr savage to make a practical light saber?!?
Reading that made my picture Adam sitting on a couch shooting a TV with his home made Han blaster.
Why. Adam would have made one 15000 times better. He'd most likely find their lack of engineering skills amusing.
@@aako-dd1ly He'd find them adorable more than amusing!
@@aako-dd1ly except Adam Savage is nowhere near that egotistical. Adam gets enjoyment out of people at least trying and experimenting because that's what engineering is all about. There's no 1 way to do everything and even a master can be humbled by a novice with a creative mind and a fresh perspective.
I love how they make Mark work like a real intern, ignoring the fact that he's a RUclipsr with over 30mil subscribers 😂
More importantly they treat him like a human being and respect him
I think that's the point and it's actually better to. It's because he's basically taking apprenticeship from them and referring to him with his number of subscribers is not the point of that.
Wait what
@@Loaf69420 mm no
Maybe because he's just a human being?
I feel this needs a part two with Adam Savage going all crazy and technical with it. The final results were actually kinda cool to be honest
💯💯💯💯💯 ... Wren, make it happen! :D
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Make this the top comment! This would be perfect!!!
💯 Let's Goooooooo
Went to the comments to suggest that. Adam would love this challenge!
I had this Star Wars visual dictionary as a kid that said lightsabers had a gyroscopic effect that made them more difficult to fight with than normal swords, now I'm wondering if that was based on this spinning prop
I knew both of those facts, but never made that correlation. That is such a cool idea.
they were definitely hard to fight with in the original movie because of the spinning- Alec Guinness and David Prowse fight so gingerly with them because the blades snapped off the hilts so easily
I remember hearing about that as well, and it makes so much more sense than them simply being weightless and nothing else.
The way that they're used in the movies has never felt like they're _just_ weightless to me, because even in the prequels you see them making very wide arcs into hard clashes all the time. This being the complete picture would make a lot more sense, and you might just be right about this being the source of that piece of lore!
@@yfrit_gg There is a bit of a debate around the weight thing. Technically, they're weightless - and you need a lot of training, skill and force skills to accurately swing a weightless blade - but they can *feel* heavier depending on the thoughts and emotions of the wielder (or not, that's not consistent).
Because the blade is kind of a magnetic funnel containing plasma, they behave weirdly around ferrous metals and kinda 'bounce' off of metal even as they melt through (when you see them burn through blast doors, they go in point first for this reason). So the blades don't "weigh" anything but that is a challenge itself, they move weirdly and of course a weightless sword with a heavy handle is hard to use.
Out of canon, George Lucas specifically said he wanted the prequels to feel like a different era. In the originals, jedi and lightsabers were revered relics of a lost past while the prequels were set when they were at their prime, they swung those things around like crazy instead of the slow, 2 handed stuff originally. Which might be covering for the change in filming tech, but it's similar to why the prequel ships are all shiny and sleek vs chunky and beat up later on
Adam should have been here for this one... you guys need to do more with him. This would have been a perfect project for practical vs CGI
I think it took them something like 2-3 years to get him on the show after first contacting him. He's abit of a legend and a busy guy. I assume there is quite abit of advance planning that goes into getting guests on their show.
No argument though, would love to see more videos of Adam on here.
@@lordofudead he also lives like 5 hours away in sanfrancisco
lol Mythbusters team:(
damn.. grant would have killed this
I mean he did work on star wars
When we were kids, my step brother told me they made lightsabers with a spinning flashlight and glass beads... and I always thought he was full of it. I still think he was just accidentally right.
reflective tubes that glow if you put light on one side...then light that spins...your brother were genius...
That is wayyy too accurate, are you sure your brother didn’t hear about it somewhere
I think your step brother wanted you to explore and find something else i won't say what but if you're old enough i'm sure you know what.
@@Pbotsfordslayer5 I'm 32 and have no ides if your talking about dicks or drugs
@@A--Fan I wasn't gonna say for a younger audience who may read my comment
4:45 I love that Mark is just putting on a band-aid in the background. He's such a great addition to the channel, I can't wait to see what sort of solo content he starts creating!
Edit: Excited to get my Fischbach & Watson Do-It-Yourself Guillotine woodworking kit! Really though, it would be super fun to see the two of them work on a carpentry project together sometime
You mean Matt Watson? from Supermega?
Wren's lightsaber actually has that Kylo Ren feel of "unstable" type of vibration on the blade. It feels very appropriate as a red lightsaber.
It's Kylo Wren time
@@nishadbehera Damn, beaten to the punchline-
I agree but I also feel like if they would have use marks at the end with the more powerful light with the blue saber insert I feel like it would have been great
You mean a emo-saber?
@@nishadbeheraYou were Cha cha real smooth,
Had to read it twice because it was so smooth
Mark adds so much to these videos. Mainly because it adds a second person with an engineering background who approaches things very different than Wren.
Iirc, Mark doesn't actually have an Engineering degree. He just went to engineering school, but never finished because his RUclips channel took off, and he decided to focus on that instead.
He also used to work as a deck builder so he knows carpentry. Also he didn't actually get his degree, he dropped out to focus on RUclips.
He is a talentless hack who should be working at McDonald's.
It's nice that corridor gave small time RUclipsrs some recognition and stuff to do
Wt
I know! The intern should start a gaming channel!
Markiplier, working with Corridor, wearing a Game Grumps shirt.
I fucking love how much of a Bro Mark is and all the interconnected love shared by the channels.
Mark creating a shared universe 10/10
just for clarification, this is what I'm seeing, right?
These guys remind me a lot of the Rocket Beans gang here in Germany.
Jordan is one badass looking Jedi!!
Hi Pandu!
What !! didn’t know you watch corridor.
Totally agree!
100%
Absolutely. She would be a perfect fit to the star wars universe. Someone needs to get her on to one of the D+ series projects ASAP.
I would love to see a "professional" version of these. These were built in two days. What does a fully proto-typed version look like?
I heard they made one of those for an old movie. Planet battles or something like that
@@feliperagonha I believe it was Interstellar conflict of interests
@awnx ruyv Imagine if this was combined with the Neopixel tech used in modern commercial lightsabers - maybe an LED strip pulsating and subtly changing colour while also being spun on a motorized axel like in Mark's design could straight-up emulate Kylo Ren's saber in-camera!
There are a couple on the RPF.
A Plasma torch...
A note on the general shape of the blades, the original prop use perfect triangular sides for the flicker
Anytime I see Wren start explaining stuff in a Corridor video, I know it's gonna be a banger
Always a good day when Wren comes into my home via the TV.
What happened to his wrist?
@@jedironin380 probably fell off the one wheel lol
They should change the term gigachad to gigawren
For the spinning LEDs, I believe they make powered bearings. IE, small ring inside, large ring outside, conductive ball bearings in between. Run power source to the outer ring which doesn't move, wire LEDs to the inner ring which moves with the saber blade.
It makes me so happy getting to see Mark use his engineering background.
Mark is the highlight of all these videos, he brings a different style of humor that I didn’t know I needed
Mark is such a great addition to the team and Wrens enthusiasm for any project he takes on is contagious. Jordan holding the lightsaber looks both stunning and hard as nails
I love that mark and corridor have essentially joined forces and how despite him being one of the biggest names in the business he’s still an intern 😂
He should be mopping the floors. He is a talentless hack.
@@TheSearchForTruth88 look in the mirror bud
I dislike Mark. I might not watch anything he's in if he's going to appear this often. Blegh.
@@Sphendrana Damn, how come? :0
@@Sphendrana damn, that sucks
So nice of the intern to get all the stuff for the new workshop ❤️
A couple ideas on how to make the lightsabers less fragile:
- They make reflective spray paint. (Not sure if it comes in different colours.) This way you could use a sturdier object, like a broom handle (maybe carved down a bit).
- It may not actually need to *spin*. You might be able to get the same effect just by making it *vibrate*. If you know what I mean.
Why would wibration work. Is it not the angle change that causes they reflection?
@@litjellyfish No, they realize in the video since the tape's always just reflecting the light in the same direction it doesn't really work that way (that's why they make it have a changing width)
The spin is needed for the flicker; it's the rapid rotations between reflective and none -reflective views.
That type of vibration is made by spinning an off centered weight quickly, the only advantage is that that it can be more compact motor so smaller in size.
They could also use a tapered triangular rod of steel or hard plastic, then all they'd need is a stronger and more stable motor to turn it.
They have retroreflective particles in road paint too in some areas. Around where I live they do. The paint markings even light up and glow under your headlights.
It's actually super simple. They just add glass beads to make road paint reflective.
And driving into a patch of older road where they haven't done that (or haven't refreshed the paint as recently, don't know how quickly it wears out) really highlights (hah) how effective it is.
Yeah, in my area it's really common for them to put reflective little flags on the lines. Instead of repainting all the roads, they'll put little flaps about 5 feet apart or so, so that as you drive, it'll show the path the road takes so you don't fly off into the ditch. 😂
@@westonhood3705 Texas tried to do that but forgot that it actually snows in this part of the state, so the snowplows just demolished the reflectors
yeah, they put it in this thermoplastic paint that you have to get super hot to apply. You can totally get it and use it, just a bit of a learning curve.
I think that Mark is actually there to learn VFX and just pops in the videos now and again as a thanks for them helping him
If I'm remembering correctly from the first video he was in, that's basically true.
This is great, Wren is so positive and Mark is inherently a negative energy. Good combo.
Light side and dark side. It's like poetry. It rhymes.
Having Jordan pose with the sabers is like a continuation of the realistic saber fight choreo video where she as the former janitor accepts the invitation to the saber training school.
Oh my gosh you’re right!
I was just about to comment saying we need a sequel!
Is there a "Boku no Jedi Academy" thing going on there?
Jordan looks really cool in those shots
@@nodisalsi search up Corridor Digital’s “To The Death”
I love having Mark as an intern over at Corridor Digital, I feel that he really fits right in and I love seeing this side of him :>
I just wish he made his own youtube channel, he seems like he would be funny to watch!
Yeah!
Glad to see that Jordan enrolled in this lightsaber school from the "To the death" video. Can't wait to see the result of her training 😄
Yeah, glad to see Jedi Jordan, too 😃
I love how dynamic these look, even when Jordyn is basically holding it still. But you are running into the same problem that they did back in 1977, that these are pretty fragile. And in an age where we've been spoiled by things like Scene 38 and even Darth Vader showing up in Jedi: Fallen Order, that fragility isn't a concern. Those creators can make it look like the characters are putting serious force behind their lightsabers, it makes me wonder what would be possible if someone applied Mark's design to something that had more than 50 dollars to work out this prop.
It could be much simpler and thus sturdier varying the intensity of the retroreflected light rather than spinning the tape. I'm sure it would be possible to either manually vary the light intensity, or even automate the process with the equivalent of a noise pattern , like you can do in an analog synthetizer.
@@maximeteppe7627 Yeah, my first thought was instead of having the blade spin what if the light was kind of like a strobe or varied in intensity. Obviously won't be the exact same effect, but might look just as good, so I agree!
@@stupidmonkey089 the main drawback I can think of is that if there are several lightsabers on screen, their strobing would be in sync.
@@maximeteppe7627 oh that's brilliant.. but you make a good point about the synchronization being undesirable.
@@KairuHakubi One way i can think of to fix THAT issue is to use colored reflective tape, and that way you can flash two corresponding color lights... hopefully the colored tape acts as a filter. If it works well enough that most of the strobing effect is from the right light source, you could get a strobe effect that is de-synchronised, as long as you have no more than 3 fighters, and it''d be easier if their sabers were red, green or blue.
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that polarized light would probably be of little help there.
So cool Mark got them a new workshops set. Helping him bros to be more successful too. Great to see them all together too.
The shimmering appearance of that lightning bolt-like core in the lightsaber at 16:17 looks fantastic!
3:21 the spinning is to hide the texture of the reflective tape and to make it have that energy look to it. But it doesnt even need to spin fast, just enough to cause motion blur
Wren, use a metal dowel to conduct the electricity for the led's, use a radial ball bearing to connect the power from the battery back to the dowel. Bonus, you get sparks when you touch sabers. (Not saying what the safety margin is, but that's another issue to tackle another day :)
Mark getting weirdly antagonistic out of nowhere and Wren good-naturedly ignoring it was both extremely relatable.
Was it? Was it really relatable? Aww tell me more.. 🤦🏻♂️ stfu
I like seeing the engineer-side of mark being in the spotlight.
Mark is the best intern ever!
To keep the blade more stable, I would try making a “full tang” design. (Making it spin lower in the hilt)
speaking of tang, a brass rod instead of wood dowel would probably help the whole wobble thing.
Glad we finally get to see the fabled workbench! He's been talking about the workbench and the forbidden carpentry technique of "wood-lengthening" that he used for a while now. lol Looks really good! Great work, Mark! 👏👏👏
the new work shop is amazing Mark did an incredible job
I always love seeing Mark in these videos now, Keep up the great videos.
glad to see more Mark on the channel, and more DIY builds! THANK YOU MARK for getting some legit safety products in there. First Aid/eyewash are critical! might want to think about adding a grab n go trauma bag fellas, with tourniquets/quik clot and such.
Would love to see how it'd look if instead of a rotational motor, there's a fan blowing into circulation of a clear tube, many pieces of cut up reflective tape.
When Mark the Intern is really concentrating on building something his voice takes on almost exactly the same demeanor as Jamie Hyneman.. and am all for that.
Now we need Mark and Adam Savage together xD
@@jakken666 Wren is pretty much the Adam Savage of the Corridor Crew.
This is honestly really cool, re-making one of Sci-Fi's coolest practical effects. I love it, I love this channel.
Corridor doing anything Star Wars is just a banger.
I never thought of Markiplier as being someone who would be into this level of hands-on tinkering. I’d love to see more of this side of him.
I love the 3 sided design from 8:30 - 8:37
It has just the minimun amount of changing in profile needed and also somehow flickers between red and orange depending on the angle of the light. This makes it look like as if it had an unstable crystle or something.
I'm so proud of Mark's work in the workshop. Caught the livestream where he was talking about how excited he was (and how necessary it was) to renovate it 💖
so glad marks in this episode, its great to see him expand his horrizon
Video idea:
I think a sound effects challenge would be really cool. Like, perhaps you could have a series of sounds you preselect (from movies, shows, etc), then 2 or more guys can go head to head trying to recreate those sounds with practical effects, using the tools, object, materials, etc. that are available just in the building.
I did something like this in school, and it's really fun!! It's a great way to look at your supplies in a different way, trying to figure out the different sounds you can get from daily use objects.
I hope this goes into consideration!!
I sounds like a great video idea
I really liked when Sam explained audio design in a few of their videos so more audio design content would be cool.
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@@Freegame4. Bruhh, you right. Why 😂😭😭😭
As long as it's taken to consideration, I'll take it. Lol
Corridor: *explaining how to improve the lightsaber*
Meanwhile: *Mark putting on a bandaid*
2:30 WAS THAT THE MARK OF 87?!
Nah bro, that was the mark of 75😂
I've been really enjoying the "Mark and Wren Build Things" videos, keep it up.
I actually did know about the original lightsaber design and that it was too fragile to use, but not the details. Love Wren's breakdowns of the science in these videos!
Edit: okay yeah I imagine the torque and gyroscopic forces at the end of the blades was a real problem during filming. That spinning would cause a lot of issues for stability.
9:20 Is mark talking about the wood still, or me?
Idk
This was super fun! You're gonna have a ton of fun in that new workshop and we're stoked to see what you cook up.
Would love to see a collab between you two, especially now that CC are making more props/practical effects.
3:09 Whoa, the Drilldo 2.0 looks amazing!
Lol
16:55 one thing, I'm sure as many others have thought of, LED stripe on one side(or two opposite sides), wireless charging coil around the hilt and bottom of the blade. if the juice is enough I'm sure it'll power the LED stripe as a separated clutch gears within 1mm or so. I mean think of the pass through distance for a Qi charging!
I love how mark is adding to the fun of corridor crew and helping them with not only videos but also workshop addons
10:12 Mark's design (at this moment) looks like a fiery type of blade. Similar to the Kylo's light saber.
I believe "Star Odyssey" also used retro-reflective tape on planks to create sci-fi swords. No word as to how the movie was actually made, but I doubt they had the time or budget or skill for anything else. You can see a few segments where the swords aren't reflecting anything as well.
This would also be a cool way to make laser-bolts in stop motion, or even in live action. Turn off the camera, take a second of video with a "laser" stretched across the set, turn off the camera, video normally.
The sword blades in the original Star Wars kept breaking, & they rotoscoped the final footage anyways, to give them color & to cover segments where there wasn't enough light reflected off the blades; that's why they didn't use the retro-reflective blades in later films.
The chaotic energy Mark brings is excellent. I hope he is a part of your guys' work more often. Teach him and berate him for not learning fast enough.
I'm glad Jordan is in this video. In my head canon, she graduated from the school in the video "To The DEATH" and this reflects the continuation of her story as a sequel.
I wanna see actuated collapsible reflector sections that practically extend and retract on button press. Good work, y'all.
9:15 Fun fact: if that dowel is made of balsa, it's not actually a softwood, it's a hardwood. Softwoods aren't necessarily soft, nor hardwoods necessarily hard. Hardwood just describes wood that comes from trees that have fruit around their seeds (angiosperms), whereas softwood trees have "naked" seeds (gymnosperms) it took me until my mid thirties to learn this fact.
“Your lightsaber will make a fine addition to my collection”
This was an awesome video. You both did what every Padawan does. You built your own lightsaber. This was the perfect video for me today. Someone I love just passed, and I needed a good escape from reality for a bit. Thanks guys.
the reason that they stopped using these is because they were very flimsy which is (at lest partly) why the fight in ep4 was so slow and I think George Lucas got annoyed at Alec Guinness and the actor for vader because they were touching the lightsbers in the fight scene.
David Prowse.
David Prowse, he deserves the credit that was taken from him, and from a documentary I watched included with a dvd they were glass rods and the would crack and shatter
I was thinking exactly this. That fight was so stiff and awkward. Felt like two 70-year-old men at their first kendo battle.
@@unfathomable3434 not glass, wooden
The way the light reflects off Jordan's retina at 16:00 and how it disappears when she blinks...
That is pure movie magic! The light sabers are really cool, but those three seconds is the best shot in the entire video.
true facts
good catch
I want a sequel to that lightsaber school video she was in now.
yeah that was pretty cool
Hang on, I've only ever seen that in one place before, and that's in my eyes since getting lens implants.. surely she's too young and healthy to need those, i had a bad reaction to medication that shut off the lens-clearifying hormones. Is that just what a normal eye looks like if the light hits it just right sometimes? Humans sure as hell don't have a tapetum lucidum, so... I'm pretty sure that's a very distinctive thing just for lens implants. When I was a bouncer at a bar, a drunk ophthalmology student noticed them and recognized it, even in his inebriated state..
i know it's a very small easy thing.. but god damn that transition saber sound was *chef kiss* at 8:02. Props to the editor for the whole video actually.
I always thought it was a carbon fiber rod with reflective tape length ways not round and round, with gaps in between to cause that pulsing as it spins.
I love the appreciation for practical effects you guys have
Guys, take Mark's original blade ( 2:47 ) cut chunks of the tape off at regular intervals on four sides say, 1 inch diameter rough circles about 3-4 inches apart, but staggered so the front and back are the same position and the side chunks fall between the front and back chunks, or cut the chunks out so they have a vaguely spiralling pattern as they go up the blade... and spin that! Or take a fresh round piece of dowel and tape it so it has that layout.
Maybe even take Marks first go, but rather than spiral the tape so it covers the whole length, apply the tape so you leave a roughly 5mm (1/4 inch) gap in the tape.
Either way I think being able to use a solid dowel, rather than something hand manufactured, will help with stability when it's spinning.
10:38 feels like the biggest nerd moment "LOOK AT THE HARMONIC FREQUENCIES" and wren's face hahaha
Man I love when Corridor does Star Wars stuff
I always love Wren's Wrendered Explanations. So proud of this man.
This reminds me of the glowing bow in Dr Who's "Silver Nemesis" 25th-anniversary episode. They coated a bow, arrow, and "living statue" with Front Axial Projection paint and a pulsating ring light was mounted over the camera lens which made only those objects glow. The effect still looks great.
I love the engineering between Wren and Mark. So fun to watch.
I feel like they could easily upgrade this design using modern lightsaber parts. If they managed to make a spinning version with a neopixel blade, itd probably look amazing on camera
you have a few Kyber crystals lying around?
@@andrewmurray1550 Do you not have kyber crystals lying around?
Spinning a neopixel blade wouldn't really add much, if anything, to its look. Adding LEDs (whether neopixel or otherwise) is going to make the saber an environmental light source. So what you want is a very narrow neopixel blade with a similarly small blade cover. Add some fins with reflective paint (or tape, but paint would probably work better). Make the whole fitting - or at least the outer shell, you can probably keep the LED part still if that doesn't cause any issues - spin. Now you'll get the LED blade providing physical light on the environment, and the in-camera effect from the spinning reflective fins which are (hopefully) narrow enough not to block enough of the light from inside the blade to create visible shadows.
@@a-blivvy-yus I'm guessing they meant a hilt from a neopixel saber
@@cloudmaster182 They specified the blade. And did so because of the fact that neopixel sabers have their LEDs lining the blade instead of being embedded in the hilt.
The fact that Markiplier keeps showing up in these videos is honestly one of the most hilarious things ever cause I somehow ALWAYS forget that he's been working with Corridor for a while now
Looks like you took more than just the video with you from the Adam Savage's shop. A maker's bug. Fantastic! This content is great. There's never too much videos of people loving making stuff. Your unique possibility to combine making with world class effects has so much potential! Looking forward what you guys will come up with in this format in the future!
Up until they revealed the new workshop, I couldn’t help but think ‘wow the workshop is looking so tidy, Jake must be so proud’ 😂
There's a new workshop?
When seeing the saber under 144p (the original films quality)
It doesn't look half bad! But seeing how they would hit eachother with a spinning plate kinda brings up the risk factor.
And budget.
“Turn it up all the way Wren” you guys are always entertaining!
I honestly enjoy having this being one of the few times Mark flexes his engineering teaching.
I like how the dowel is showing at the bottom... Also the vibration is useful.
A great practical vs digital would be the characters of different sizes interacting (aka hobbits and men). In LotR they did a lot of practical forced perspective shots, but the hobbit did more digital and green screen. Which is easier to do? What are the trade offs between the two?
Loved the video and the channel!
ya and they did tricks where it shifted with the camera it's so cool. practical ages much better than digital
cgi I think u can fix things in post. practical has a lot of pre planning and everything has to go smoothly. harder to fix in post unless it's cgi or manipulated.
but for actions practical u can see a big difference in their performance
This mark intern guy is pretty cool, wish he would make his own channel
It’s nice to see Corridor Crew giving small RUclipsrs a chance
It would have been cool to see the "slow ignition" of the light saber as they did it in the movie - where Alec Guinness just held it so that the blade was pointed directly at the camera (and therefore not visible), then just slowly turned it to the side and it looks like the blade extends gradually.
Pretty sure thats not how its done, theres a definite jumpcut
@@haveidonethisbefore I think he’s referring to the scene where vader faces obi wan on the death star. i remember it being quite slow. that said it’s been ages since i’ve seen the scene
@@haveidonethisbefore They showed it in the old behind the scenes docs. The blade extending is done that way, but probably they had to do a cut & swap the sabers because it never was truly 100% aligned with the camera or some other movement was there that wouldn't have hidden the reflective tape.
recording this process and sharing it, ALONE, is transformative. but, the Corridor spin makes it engaging and entertaining. love it!
I remember playing with the original light sabre toy when i was about 5 (1985) at this street party, how those things would bend on contact! i thought they were called life savers for so long. love the vid guys!
I just finished installing a lightsaber with all the bells and whistles, but it's super interesting to see where they started! Something as simple as reflective tape being used for something like this is super neat! It's actually still used today by some lightsaber enthusiasts because the light bounces off the white polycarbonate blade that's commonly used on most lightsabers!
It's very humbling knowing that even though I only got into installing sabers a year or so ago, there's over 70 years of lightsaber-building history behind me!
I love how Mark is now an honourary part of the team. You should give him a full time position
Wish they would but sadly they can't afford Mark since his pay grade in other companies is just off of this world lol he also mentioned that on a podcast that the crew can't afford him.
@@lovemir681 If they invest in the bitcoin program that the hacker was trying to tell them about they could make enough 😆
I selected this thinking it was clickbait, and that there was going to be the traditional it's not CGI it's computer assisted compositing or something like that.. My God am I excited for the ride at this point.
I'm kind of loving this tear that y'all are going down with trying to practically solve a lot of the uncanny valley effects of low budget special effects and digital in general.. details matter, and when something doesn't happen that you're expecting it it really does undermine any effort that may have gone on, and then the scene in general because it's not out loud but it's sitting there being uncomfortable feeling wrong.. and not in a good way like a bad movie or excuse me experimental art film.
One amazing thing about the original "Star Wars" trilogy was that it used almost no computer effects at all - I think the only actual computer effect was the Death Star, but apart from that, everything was physically done in front of the camera.
Even the opening crawl was a physical effect - a black piece of paper that was recorded diagonally.
The Death Star *plans* were CGI. The actual station was a model.
The shots from the cannons were effects too
@@coltonr83colt *Technically* that was rotoscoping, not CGI.
My favourite practical effect is probably the landspeeders. They're just cars with mirrors taped to the sides to reflect the sand, and since a reflection of sand looks basically like seeing through to sand on the other side, it looks like they're flying.
@@Chocomint_Queen to remove the wheels under the car, they also blurred the lower part of the camera lens with Vaseline (petroleum jelly)