Incredible JDM Citizen Attesa...Amazing But There’s A BIG Problem!
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
- In this video I show the NEW Citizen Attesa JDM Sports Watch. This watch is incredible, beautifully built but seriously flawed....I'm not sure watch collectors or enthusiasts will like it!
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Apologies if I wasn’t clear…the problem I’m referring to in the title is that I think some watch enthusiasts will not want this watch as it uses technology to achieve accuracy instead of mechanical engineering…If it contained a 9000 series automatic or a super high accuracy Quartz movement, collectors would be all over it….
Such a complaint is like saying a Tesla S Plaid is great but I wish it had a diesel engine. You know because car enthusiasts only like diesel engines and not tech.
@@yoginasser305yep, unfortunately people get tribal over movements, which makes no sense to me. You never really know what it's using outside of basic specs.
I’m going for this exactly because it has an eco drive movement. It’s superior. I want/need accuracy and toughness/reliability that mechanicals can’t offer.
People like their old cuckoo clocks on their wrists still and will pay. I've given up on the Swiss automatic journey. I was fed up with babysitting a watch, the cost of services, over-hyped brands and just wearing something that's value said more about my ego than telling the time. I'm done with all that now and I am more than happy with my Skyhawk JY8108-53E titanium, as it does an incredible amount of things and requires zero babysitting and zero services and costs. So people can keep their cuckoo clocks, I just want a watch that looks after itself now
Quartz,and ESPECIALLY eco drive Quartz is OBJECTIVELY superior in every single way to mechanical watches.
Period.
I don't agree with the idea that it would be better with an automatic movement. Maybe that would appeal to some watch nerds, but the Eco-Drive movement is a real gem, a true set-it-and-forget-it watch that is always powered, always correctly set and always ready. It's for everyone who wants a nice looking, well-specced watch that never requires fiddling, it just does everything you actually need in a watch, with no drama.
Exactly...
Exactly had a citizen automatic añd Seiko but stick with tough solar watches looks nice and always correct time.
Agree but £600 for a posh eco drive? There’s a lot of profit in that. Lovely watch but I have other titanium watches with accurate movements for less than half the cost. I would stick with a smart s/s eco drive dress watch for less money. Not worried about radio control as a standard eco drive is accurate to a few seconds a week anyway.
Agreed. I love my two automatic watches, but my day-to-day watch is always a solar quartz.
@@ReferenceFidelityComponentsnot much more profit in that, than Seiko selling a 6R mechanical for the same price.
Citizen's JDM models have so many hidden gems. I really wish they released more of them internationally. The NB1060 is another stunner.
The nb1060 has a great dial
And check out the PMD56-2952...
I wore a Citizen "Atomic Time" watch for years. (Obviously, it's not atomic, but it refers to the time towers in the US which are kept by atomic clocks).
But at least in MY watch, the synching to the towers took place once a day at 2AM, and pressing the button to check indicates whether or not it got a synch during the last attempt.....not that it was currently connected. (The Rx indicator shows when it is currently receiving, which could also be manually initiated). I usually got a fresh synch about 90% of nights.
Anyway, Solar + Atomic Time = a completely hands off watch! When I was a much busier man, I appreciated that....
I love citizen watches and this one is no exception. They are highly underrated.
I opened my first small business right as the 2008 crisis got going. Bar and music venue. It was miserable for a few years and I saw a lot of my contemporaries crash and burn. We finally started to turn a profit around year 5 and when I could finally take a small breath of fresh air I decided that it was finally time to buy my first watch because, you know, that's what successful people do.
I spent weeks looking for watches and went with a citizen eco-drive titanium cocktail watch. I could not believe I was considering spending $200 on a watch but times were good and it was on sale. I got the full boutique experience at Belk in my local Mall and Amanda was nice enough to resize the bracelet for me before I left the Belk Boutique.
I still have that watch 10 years later. It has never once stopped running, ever, and was the reason I am crazy about watches now. I love Citizen.
Such an underrated brand. In each segment that Seiko has a "Legend" Citizen has a competing model that gets no love.
Very true Kobus.
Problem is for many, the Citizen brand is associated with cheap electronics.
@@StephenMorganCanada In South Africa we only know them for watches. I did not know they made anything else.
@@StephenMorganCanada Citizen make Electronics?.. I've only ever known them as a Watchmaker tbh, I'm in the UK.
@@johanvandersandt8904 same here, always known them as watches.
I have had a Citizen Attesa CC-9015-54E since it came out. It also has radio control (though I don’t need a cocktail stick to invoke it due to a finger-pressable button), GPS (ditto)titanium body and bracelet and sapphire crystal, but also chronometer mode, day display, alarms and a separate dial that can be set to any other time zone you want (e.g. so if you are travelling abroad you can see the time back home). The best watch I have ever owned.
I bought the promaster land PMD-56 JDM model, last year. Absolutely stunning watch. Purposeful, ultra legible and built like a small armoured vehicle
I own this superb watch too! Mine is the 2952 version. They are very easy to set manually.
Good start, Gary. If you could get hold of a Casio Oceanus to make it a 3-way comparo, that would be fantasic!
Congrats for trying so many new watches! This one looks amazing!
I do like a Citizen and this is an attractive watch. It appears to be packed with features. Now if it would make a decent espresso it would be perfect. ☕️
I like this watch a lot. It's a handsome watch and that scratch resistant material is a huge plus in my book. This clasp is sweet! I wish we'd see this more often. Useful quick adjust and a small and compact clasp nonetheless. What's wrong about its radio tower connectivity? If you don't want to use it you don't have to. It'll work as a normal quartz watch.
I was just making the point that watch enthusiasts prefer watches that achieve accuracy through engineering not technology
@@ILikeWatches2 You know me, I do prefer mechanical watches. But I believe there should be room for at least one set-and-forger watch in every collection. I have a Casio Oceanus in my collection that does a similar thing. Not only is it a beautiful and well finished watch. I often use it for setting the time on my other watches.
Engineering IS technology. This watch stays super accurate by receiving radio broadcasts from an atomic clock, that took a lot of space age engineering.
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I actually prefer having a “smart” quartz watch that is completely set and forget, by making use of solar power and radio controlled calibration, a technology that is proven and reliable , instead of relying on a “dumb” quartz, where you still have to intervene for DST and date.
The Japanese are great at integrating useful technology, while the Swiss are good at ignoring these technologies, out of laziness, relying on their reputation from yesteryear.
@@ILikeWatches2Through engineering not technology? Mechanical engineer here. They are the same. It’s not like engineering is “the real deal”, and technology is some magic way of faking the functionality. In my eyes they’re equal, and one and the same. I have just as much respect for those that designed the Eco-Drive, as those that design Miyota or ETA movements. Both watch movements in the end. But I used to have the same view as you about RC movements feeling a bit un-pure, so to say. Which is why I went for a normal Eco-Drive. But considering hope many great JDM models there are with RC movements I think I have to ignore that notion.
That micro adjustment is very cool.👍
I have an Attesa chronograph A-T watch. It's pretty cool that it connects to a tower around 2am to synchronize the watch to the correct time if it's off. Plus it's solar too. I use it as my go to watch to synchronize my quartz and automatics when they have lost their accuracy.
OE.. nicaragüense?
@@ideaynojodas Nica en los Estados Unidos
Gutted, because it is super accurate… 🤣 As someone that wants a watch to feel like a proper tool and not useless jewellery, I’m thrilled, that a watch like this exists. The Swiss certainly aren’t capable of, or willing to try, making anything like it
I'm not sure why anyone would be disappointed that their quartz watch is connected to a radio signal to remain super accurate... 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Watch collectors and enthusiasts love automatic watches…the more mechanical it is and less technology is used to achieve accuracy is usually what watch collectors want. Connecting to radio towers is considered cheating by some.
@@ILikeWatches2 true. But I use an atomic time app to set my mechanical watches. This watch is awesome enough for an exception, in my opinion.
@@ILikeWatches2 "cheating"??? I've never heard anyone say anything like that - seems idiotic. I have 3 watches that either connect via Bluetooth and/ or are radio controlled, it's a great feature
@@NotoriousK_I_T maybe cheating is not right word, but it's more about the sense of authenticity. Precisely hand crafted art will have higher value than an art piece generated by mechine. From an engineering prospective, a high accurate quartz movement is more complex and intricate than a movement that relys on extrinsic input to maintain its accuracy. In this particular example, if you live somewhere where you don't have atomic clock radio signal, then it's not "HAQ" anymore.
@@ILikeWatches2 My citizen Attesa has a movement which is accurate 0.5 seconds per day even if it does not receive a radio signal. They also have the quarz movement Caliber 0100 which is the most accurate in the world.
Beautiful watch, I really like the case and bracelet design and I want that clasp!
Yup, just shows what can be done!
My every day watch is a Citizen Blue Angels Skyhawk JY8058-50L and I absolutely love, its a Nice heavy chunky watch which I prefer..
There are many English speaking peoples living in Japan. Also has a large tourism flow from many English speaking countries
Verry impressive. Excellent choice, Garry. The name is pronounced Atteza, which is in Italian "waiting".
Thank you
This watch goes on my short list of one to buy. Thank you.
Excellent video Gary.. I do need a Citizen in my collection. 2023 will be the year! As for the manual online in English, that's for the movement which might appear in different watch models in other markets and the JDM price,, saw that on the Orient Chronograph I got, I believe one price is inclusive of local VAT and one is ex VAT as some customers may possibly be able to reclaim it if they are a business entity.
I had the same question about English on JDM watches. I think I asked about it on Just The Watch. The host of that channel lives in Japan. I think the answer was that a lot of things in Japan are in English.
My radio controlled solar Citizen titanium is my absolute best everyday watch
Awesome review, I'm so tempted! The higher price (of the two) featured on the tag includes Japan's consumption tax, so most consumers would need to pay that higher price. I miss shopping in UK when what you see is what you get.
Nice score! It is stunning. My only quartz watch is a solar atomic g-shock. I really like mechanical watches. I would make an exception for this.
Never heard of these and what a stunner!! Look forward to the comparison!!
I own a black titanium Atessa. Super precize and super comfy watch! Bought it a few years ago. Still, it's one of my favorites. Love these radio-controlled quartzes! 😄 This one, though different, looks good. Despite the DLC on my black titanium Atessa, it shows some wear marks, so none-black ones are less scratch-showy.
Fantastic looking watch. Now I want one. Thanks for sharing.
I have a JDM Casio Oceanus, and honestly I'm not disappointed at all that it can connect to a radio tower (in some countries, including the UK) to update its time and date.
S100 forever!
Great review! How does this watch compare to the CITIZEN ATTESA CB1120-50E? It seems to have all the function of this watch but sells for $328 on Sakura website. Like the Michigan shirt as well! Thanks
The right comparison should be this watch vs a Casio Oceanus.
Extra beautyfull. Im a Citizen fan, better prices, better QC, no issues ever. And the quality speaks for itself. Touche
Funny how tastes differ, my first gifted Citizen was stainless steel and felt too heavy for me. My wife allowed me to exchange for the titanium and weight so much less. Had it many years. Now on my second, it's titanium sapphire, bullet proof, no scratches on glass, and I wear for everything, including boating and fishing, cycling, and any hard manual projects like cutting trees and any hard work. Never adjust time, will wear till it conks out, then it'll be another titanium with sapphire glass. BTW, my wife had never had one, gave her one she loved, saw a second one
on sale in recent cruise ship store, now has another she loves even more, and doesn't miss the hassle of dead batteries.
I have always had a soft spot for Citizen. I currently have 2 in my collection, a chronograph and a GMT. This watch is gorgeous, Citizen should release it internationally.
I have the RMC GMT 300m, cost me £210 inc postage. Have a look at the Citizen PMD56-2952...
I love Citizen watches, and this one is packed with amazing features. I only own two Citizen watches, but will be adding more vs. Seiko. Citizen watches offer much more value for the money.
You are almost certainly misunderstanding the "connect to towers" - the Universal Coordinated Time frequencies are AM/Medium Wave radio broadcasts. The watch receives them. It does not transmit, that would take way too much power. You can actually listen to the clock "ticking" with a shortwave radio or web SDR.
So the watch doesn’t use the signal to adjust itself to the correct local time?
@@ILikeWatches2 it does, but it receives it; there is no outgoing connection. It's no more technically advanced than quartz. The first radio controlled clock came out in the early 80s. When you turn the radio on to listen to BBC 4, you aren't connecting to bbc4's tower, you're just receiving the signal. Same thing. If you synced your watch when the announcer said the time at the top of the hour manually, you'd be doing the same thing, essentially.
Great review Gary! Love the looks of this Citizen.
I have a Citizen Skyhawk which connects to a tower in Germany at 0200 each day but only if I put it on the window cill or go outside and manually connect it. As you say its a bit of a pain but it does keep excellent time. I prefer the Bluetooth link my G-Shock uses to communicate with my phone. Nice watch but pricey once the Duty & VAT are added for what is a basic three hander.
Gary the closest radio tower you can use is in Germany, possibly just at the range where it becomes unreliable for you in the UK. There are only 5 of those towers worldwide, 2 in Japan, 1 in China, Germany and Colorado 1 each. The function is really neat but I really wish there were more of them and the entire Southern hemisphere has no access at all. The watches are really popular in Japan obviously, having 2 towers.
On titanium, I happen to like titanium, it can be worked and finished to not have that typical grey sheen and with modern surface treatments can be more scratch resistant than 316. I don't get your comment that the watch doesn't feel premium solely because it is lighter then steel. It think that's rubbish but to each his own I suppose.
Yeah, it isn’t a strong signal sadly
There are six towers worldwide, the one in the UK is at ANTHORN on the Solway Firth, Cumbria
@@ILikeWatches2Hi Gary, You shouldn't have any trouble connecting to the towers, my Oceanus connects in the early hours every day , I presume this Citizen would be the same
@@John-P I didn't know that, is the tower actually working because it's never been listed in any source I've read.
@@alanmckinnon6791 Yes it's working fine, all my Multiband 6 watches receive the signal every morning at about 1.00 am. if you go onto Google Earth and type in Anthorn you can see the towers on the coast road.
I have 2 citizen watches to my collection of watches but I must say this watch is an absolute beauty,
Check out the Citizen PMD56-2952...
Citizen do make fantastic Titanium watches, I'm loving the whole thing tho tbh, the bezel suits the dial perfectly, Nice Watch Gazza.
1) why is it that Citizen has created so many gorgeous watches for so many years, BUT still doesn't seem to be able to do good marketing?
2) Grand Seiko needs to have a good look at that clasp.
Agreed x 2
Few days I decided for Citizen ny0086 16le, Gorgeous automatic watch Stainless steel is so good polished that reminds on silver, always wanted Citizen and I got my pepsi.
I bought my first Citizen several months back, a Promaster Land Titanium (JDM). By the way, I ended up buying it from a company in Spain as well via Chrono24. It's an EcoDrive and remains very accurate and stays charged by just leaving it on my desk under room lighting. I was very impressed by the quality, features, and finishing, and particularly the look and feel of titanium (all my watches are stainless steel, so the grayish color of the titanium is a nice change). And with reduced weight, it's very comfortable to wear. I just bought a Seiko Select (JDM) Solar watch, pretty much the same size as the Citizen, but it feels like twice the weight. I do think that Citizen is really stepping up their styling and finishing and are becoming a real competitor to Seiko.
I like a weighty watch but I've got a few titanium watches now and I'm happy with them. Great video fantastic chanel
That's a beauty. Wish we'd get a full release of Attesa models in the UK.
And check out the Citizen PMD56-2952...
Thanks for the video, I find it funny you'd want a less accurate movement in this. The whole reason I got an Attesa was the accuracy and hands off movement. I get a perpetual day date for less than $1,000, which is way better for any mechanical watch I know of.
Citizen are great: I had an eco-drive watch for years which I lost (presumed stolen) in the chaos of the train strikes a few weeks ago. Didn't think I'd ever come across a brand new one again until I found a company in America that had 1 in stock. I ordered it straight away and I won't be losing this one lol. They are a great brand, Citizen.
I own the "Ray Mears" titanium field watch. Citizen Super Titanium is very scratch proof.
Wow....that's a dream....too bad it's really expensive here in Brazil.....about 1200 dollars here....never could afford one
Since I got my first citizen, a citizen quartz in the early 80s, I have been a fan. I still have my CQ, and it works! I just bought a used citizen field watch, and it's gorgeous. I have my eye on their tsuno chrono panda, this in lieu of the seiko speedtimer panda. Both are quartz. Citizen is an overlooked brand competing against Casio and Seiko - Orient.
Is citizen trying to morph into a kinda, sorta hi tech luxury brand or will Frederique Constant be their luxury brand?
Btw, I still own my early 80s Casio TC 500 touch screen calculator watch. And, ya guess it, it still works. It is in excellent shape.
Having recently discovered Citizen watches myself, my firs impressions are that I am very impressed. From what I have read, the eco drive system is amazing.
So the reason you're not getting signal is because of solar interference (ironically enough). I think your tower is in Germany, so you'll get great reception around midnight. I have an AT Citizen and it's my most complimented watch. I actually recommend Citizen as people's first watch over everything else because of what you get for the money.
Beautiful dial on that watch. I wish Citizen ,Seiko and Casio made those super high end watches in SS.
I love your Great Lakes T shirt.
Yet I can't one get one of those those watches here!
Indeed, I found some bargains in Spain, too, including a Longines Legend diver for £500 less than retail! Luckily, I also have a place in Spain, so no import tax!
Forget the Myota, the Atomic Time movements are brilliant, just set and forget, I'm forever winding my Autos but my PCAT, just wear it. Lovely watch, look forward to the comparison with the Conquest VHP. I really fancied one of these, found it a little too thick and 50m wr insufficient.
Check out the Citizen PMD56-2952...
@@michaellooney1089 very nice, I have a BM6400, the dia is very similar, great watches.
that clasp is nice....thank you for putting this one on the radar for me. Probably not the right watch for me, but maybe something similar in a different dial/design. Maybe one day they will be able to make a mechQ Eco-Drive movement...
It would have been on my Santa list if it had the 0100 inside. I love the HAQ that Citizen are doing
Excessively techy for me. If you want an iWatch or whatever it is, buy one.
Love that clasp/bracelet!
It's actually great that it connects to multiband towers. All in all I think it's an awesome watch. All those features are cool.
You should look at the Casio Oceanus T200; finished as well as a Grand Seiko (no, really, no joke) Tough Solar movement with some miracle mechanism that ensures the second hand keeps hitting the mark, Atomic and Bluetooth connectivity and word time. And for about half the price of this Citizen.
Can't wait for your comparison with Longines VHP, I always feel that the Swiss have the edge with their designs but Citizen has the technology.
I really like the top-of-the-line JDM watches. I own a Casio Oceanus, 2 Citizen Attesas, and have ordered a Seiko Astron. FYI, the reason for the 2 prices may be that one price is with tax when sold in Japan and one without tax when being sent outside Japan. I seem to recall seeing the 2 prices on Casio's Japanese website.
I own two Oceanus. I like the design of Astrons. How are Attesa and Astrons compared to Oceanus models?
Many of the JDM watches are also available to US military folks stationed in Japan. Many may also show up in various 'duty free' shops there. That may have something to do with the manual being available in English
It is good looking but I think that you will find more functionality for a better price with Casio Oceanus.
Standard Citizen quartz by itself is, in my experience, pretty accurate. The radio should add a perpetual date function and auto adjustment of time zone, so long as you get the signal. So, no good in Australia.
Of course if you want a high accuracy quartz movent which is independent of the radio signal, get hold of a Calibre 0100 movement.
I like your Michigan shirt! I’m watching from Ann Arbor MI!
I don’t see anything I dislike about that watch. The clasp is near perfect!
Reminds me of the Casio Oceanus
this watch in pvd black is awesome
Wow. That's a beautiful watch.
In many cases these "JDM" models are exported to certain markets. We get some "JDM" models here in Australia because the local company/agent/distributor has decided they want to bring it in. But then again there are some that never leave Japanese shores unless they are on the wrist (or in the watch roll) of an end customer
You beat me to it! I have one on order😂
nice watch love it ... not sure id pay that price..
Looks amazing but what's the measurement end link to end link? Looks like it's pretty long unfortunately 😔
Very cool ...love Titanium....
Nice review. Amazing how nice theses watches are. Shame they don’t get the same attention as the ‘swiss’ big names
I came INSANELY a close to buying this (the matte black one), but I think I’ll save my moolah and invest in a good Seiko Astron.
Absolut stuning watch
I'd get an Oceanus for that price and features, but definitely the finishing looks outstanding
Why is radio controlled watch disappointing? People generally love those, and many Citizen watches, including Promaster range, are radio controlled and those are more sought out. Every Citizen with contra balance on the seconds hand that looks like that is radio controlled. It's common watch knowledge among enthusiasts...
Why would it be better with a Miyota mechanical calibre? This does exactly what a watch is intended to do, it tells time pretty much perfectly. The time will always be right (assuming you can access the time signal once in a while), it's more shock resistant than a mechanical movement, it'll need opening up maybe once in 20+years time compared to the servicing a mechanical movement will need. It doesn't even need a battery or setting once set. Pretty much wear and enjoy. HAQ watches are nice but they have their issues and most (except Citizen's own ones) need battery changes and maybe even regulating every so often.
I have, what could be described as the cheap and cheerful Casio version of this watch - a Casio Lineage LCW-M100TS (also JDM only) and it's been superb. I'm tempted to go for a Citizen ATTESA now as well for the improved water resistance and better bracelet.
So you say this will be in the next give away Just kidding Citizen makes fantastic watches and Thanks for sharing as always my friend 👍
That is beautiful. Expensive. But beautiful.
121,000 is the price in Japan with tax, 110,000 is the price before tax!
Also, it is probably in English because lot of tourists/foreign collectors shop there? not sure but just a guess.
Correct, before leaving the country, tourist need to fill out claim form to get the tax back.
I have only experienced zelos and citizen watches in titanium. Don't know how but zelos titanium watches still have a bit of weight to give a premium feeling. The citizens I've had just feel cheap.
off the top of my head, it's probably because of the citizen's solar quartz movement (if it's an eco drive) ? 🤷♂ i think those tend to be lighter than mechanical / automatic movements.
@Rampart it's got a miyota 9000 series. Compared with my zelos mako with the same movement its half the weight. Maybe less material or maybe zelos add weight to give it artificial heft.
For someone who bought this watch and loves it, you have a lot of complaints about it.
The dial moves to “no” because the last time it attempted to connect to a radio tower failed to receive the time, weak signal. A demo of this near a window wouldn’t have gone amiss. It doesn’t have a constant connection to a radio tower since that would drain the battery, generally these kind of watches attempt to connect on a daily basis, another reason (as well as charging) to give it a home by a window.
Once you get over the shock “feels cheap” featherweight titanium I suspect that’s when the watch comes into it’s own: You forget that it’s on your wrist. A real advantage, no?
The two prices on the tag, that’s the price in JPY with and without consumption tax
Ace show Gary. And a sexy watch, I would love to of seen some multi coloured loom.
The two prices are higher priced is Japanese tax included
Lower price is if you came to Japan as a tourist (non taxed).
Ahhh ok thanks
The second price on the watch tag that the narrator/maker of this video review says he does not know what it is, is the price of the watch including Japan tax.
Awesome watch indeed.
Finally decided to order one. Till i receive mine, no where on line i can find any info on lugwidth, would you care to share? Thnx
No. Not disappointing. Accurate.
I have a Citizen Perpetual World Timer and boy oh boy is it a nightmare to set if the date is out. Not sure why they make it so hard to figure out.
Remind me my Casio Oceanus T-400 (Antenna + Bluetooth) 😃