WIRELESSLY Control Monoprice Whole Home Audio & Dayton DAX66 w/ iTach Flex IP by Global Cache!!!
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You will need to buy the iTach Flex IP by Global Cache: amzn.to/2Noa0BP
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In this video I demonstrate how to wirelessly control the monoprice 6 zone 6 source whole home audio amp / the dayton audio dax66 whole home audio amp using an ipad. Many people ask how to control these amps over your network without touching the keypads. This video will explain how to do that. Please keep in mind that currently there is not a good android app out there, so if you can, please use an apple device with this app.
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The reason you have to buy the serial cable, is because the iTach device has other adapters that you can use with it, and their device is not exclusively built for RS232 only.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to share your setup with us and how you made it all work. Incredible to me that in the year 2020 this is the only technology available to create audio throughout the home. Amazing you adapted technology that was created in 1969 (rs232 serial) to work with today’s technology. Why why why are they still building amps with this antiquated methodology. Insane how complicated they make it by using such dated ways. Thanks for your help!! You should be commended!
You could also use the Russound CA4, without the need for a professional installer.
Just set up my old mono price system with the wireless global cache and man it works flawlessly. I love it, should have never installed the keypads...
thank you for all the guidance and time you put into these videos
Your welcome! But I do still love the keypads as well, I think it's a good addition to the system even with smartphone control :)
If I haven't said it yet. Thank You. From the suggestion of the Mono 6Z 6S to the App. to the iFlex. Amazing. Thank You
All taken care of. My fault with not re-setting the Flex settings after I did a default reset to the iTach. One thing to also take note is to make sure your Monoprice unit is set to "master". Mine was set to Slave 2 by the factory and caused one last connection issue which TheKMZ1 solved in about 45 seconds after I sent an email. Great response times and great App. VERY IMPRESSED!
Just came across this. Great solution for a budget build, Dayton audio makes great gear!
This app is awesome. Please read all updates.
I purchased the app and have Samsung Smart things nested hubs (4) and the global cashe doesn't recognize the device on the computer screen. I have a different name for my Samsung hubs and it is different from the router. Any advice would be appreciated. I used the ihelp exe but it never recognizes it on the Samsung.
Update: I called the support for Global Cashe and they were able to help me get the Samsung Smart things nest network to work with this app. They were very helpful and solved the problem identifing a bad ethernet cable. Great company with great support. Hats off to Garrett. I plugged the Global Cashe into the mesh network hub and it worked perfectly. Then I was blown away with the capabilities of the app. I have 12 zones and 4 nest hubs. I can now control the whole house with one app on my phone. Awesome.
Update Number 2: I have several smart switches and dimmers on my system. I use the smartthings hubs(4) so that I could get the Internet in the whole house. I added a switch which conflicted with the IP address of the global cache itach and the app crashed. The switch bumped the IP address of the global cache and it did not work any more. To solve the problem I cleared the cache and data from my phone in the apps memory, first. To do this you need to go to settings on your phone and then go to device care and then to storage. Go to Apps then click on audio control and then storage. Delete the data and the cache. Then I deleted the app. Then i opened ihelp from the Global cache website and changed the IP address of the Global cache to 192.168.1.60. This was a number higher than any device on the LAN. (I used Advanced-IP-Scanner to find IP addresses) Then I changed the Global cache Iflex to a static port using ihelp and set the baud rate and stop bits. I downloaded a fresh copy of the app. Now the Global cache was set to 192.168.1.60 and the app found the IP and it started to work again. I had to put in all the descriptions over again but that was the least of the problems. I now know that I can fix the IP conflicts without any trouble. It is a good app but I think the bug needs to be fixed so that you don't lose the descriptions when the IP address of the Global Cache get corrupted. I am lost without this app.
Update 3: I received word today from KMZ1 that the app bug was fixed. I updated the app and it works. Once you use this app you will be spoiled to a point you can't live without it. Thank you KMZ1 for fixing the app bug. Again this app is awesome. With the fix I am contemplating buying a second one for my wife. Well worth it.
Update 4: I purchased a second Chromecast along with a second HDMI to RCA converter and it worked perfectly. I now have two independent sources that use Chromecast as sources to the DAX66. I then purchased a second Audio Control app from KMZ1 and the Android app store and now my wife can independently put her music on and I can listen to my smooth Jazz. I taught my wife how to use the app and she loves it. Now I am a happy camper. This app is Awesome.
Thanks for the info on the app. I wish there was a feature where you select a source and can control all the zones it is sending to. Grouping would be nice too.
MARK MROZ They just added grouping to the iOS app
Thanks for the video. I was having trouble with the iTach settings. Your video helped me to get everything set up correctly!
Dude, awesome video! Really answered a lot of my questions.
Hey everyone! I have published an android app which can now control these amplifiers if you don't have an Apple device. Search Google play for Monoprice and you should find it. It's called monoprice whole home audio control. Stay tuned for upcoming videos discussing the app!
unfortunately, and I have an Apple device and only this Monoprice Whole Home Audio application
Home Audio Control. is there any other alternative to make it work 😒
thanks you beautiful bastard, every video of yours I've seen has helped me on my whole home audio project. Keep it up and subscribed
I really like your video I’ve been searching for a while And you just save me a ton of money thank you again for posting this video. also Will this work for OSD AUDIO..??
Just came across this video, and it was great and made it easy to set up. There is one part of the Monoprice Amplifier that I cannot seem to find any help. How does one use the Announce feature?
To stream the audio from Pandora or google I used this device from Amazon.com hooked up to a Chrome cast. I plugged the Chromecast into this converter and it works perfectly. Then you just add chromecast to the speaker group that you want and you can control the audio to your Dax66 or monoprice by voice. I purchased a second one and another Chromecast and installed them. I added them to a separate speaker group so that I can use it as a second streaming source. See my other post on this thread 6 month older than this one.
Now, I added a Kasa switch to the amplifier and can turn on and off the amp by voice. Once the amp is on, I can use this app to set the volume and source on all the speakers. I now have voice control over the amp's on and off. I can turn it on with my voice and set the source and volume with the app. Also because I use Chromecast with the HDMI to RCA adaptor, I can also control the input volume with my voice. Kayton, thank you very much for creating this app. It is the best app I have downloaded all year.
The Kasa switch turns on/off the whole Amp?
@@Fumoffuu Yes
I watched the video about using the global cache itach to control the monoprice multizone amp. Great info. Question, can I use the same setup but without using the keypads? I can buy the amp by itself. I hope I can generate an answer. Thank you in advance.
Great Video. With regards to the keypads, if i'm going to use the iphone/ipads to control the system do i need to install the keypads?
No you would not need to install the keypads. But what i would suggest, is that wherever you put the amplifier (say in a closet or utility room) i would recommend putting all of the keypads in that room. It would be very easy to install since you don't have to run wire in walls, and it would give you an extra place for you or someone else to control the volume. Always better to have a reliable backup in place!
Worked great!
Hey, nice vid, very informative - Thanks. What's the thickest gauge speaker wire do you recommend for this unit?
Zed Momirovski 12 guage is the thickest that you can use with this system
hey TheKMZ1, great video series on the Monoprice 6Zone amps and this wireless app setup. We gut renovated our house and wired the whole house for in-ceiling speakers. I ran Cat6 in most rooms to wire TV's and such, and some in ceiling CAT6 for for my Ubiquiti network, but not any for the keypads. I am planning to just control using the app. I have 25 in-ceiling speakers, 2 porch speakers, and a 5.2.2 setup in a media room. I'm planning to use two of the Monoprice 6 zone amps to power 25 of the speakers. Question for you is, have you found a good way to have the APP running on a mounted tablet so that you can use it in place of keypads? Also, have you found an app or Alexa skill that can be used to control the Monoprice amps (either via the GlobalCache adapter or otherwise)? Thanks. Great info on your channel!!
So I got the Monoprice system installed and everything works great but I was wondering if you have a recommendation on a receiver that could be used for a 5.1 setup and also can be plugged in as a source for the monoprice 6 zone amp?
Any 5.1 receiver would work once it has an analog (RCA) output, e.g. CD. Better yet if the receiver has a zone 2, you could use that output.
This looks great, I am prewiring now for this plan. I have a question about the app, can we control the system from multiple devices with the same app and setup or can it only be controlled by one device?
It can be controlled with multiple apps! Not a problem
hello i have a problem audio control app for monoprice has stopped iTAch flex
Thank you!!!
Very inspiring info going into house build! Quick question - if I wire for keypads AND RS232 control with the iTach Flex, can one use either/or to control, i.e. iPad from a room but also use the keypad for local control in another?
unfortunately, and I have an Apple device and only this Monoprice Whole Home Audio application
Home Audio Control. is there any other alternative to make it work
Thank you for the video it was great and very helpful.
I have everything set up as described in the Video, the system is connected to the app. But does not seem to be responding.
Any tips?
Is your RS232 cable a genuine global cache cable? It needs to be in order for it to work, also check the switch in the back of the amp that it is set to "master" and lastly check my faq page monopriceaudio.kztechconsulting.com/faq
TheKMZ1 yep, that was it. Thank You
This is awesome
Have you every tried incorporating network software solely dedicated to audio, like say DANTE Via?
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Great videos bro. I am working in the cable run and the only problem with me right now is the sources . I think u have used rg6 coaxil cable witch is not available at all in Egypt the only one available here is that caoxil for cctv or rg59 for digital recievers. As you know it will be different in the diameter (RG6 VS RG59) IF if this cable will getbthe job done please enlighten me if not. you could suggest me something else for the sourcrs .
Few days I think I have seen a video showing a bluetooth reciever in-wall plate, and if this can work with monoprice amp it would be cool. In Egypt the market is very limited and since my apartment is new i am working on the cable run in the basement I have this chance right now because by this month the contractor will finish the apartment and later i will not be able to do this, so now I am focusing on the cables and later I will purchase everything online
Khalid Alzaki I think you can still use RG59 for the rca sources
I can't reach iOS MobilAPP in Turkey market.
Finally getting around to getting this setup. Since I still have the older Monoprice unit, is this still the best way to hook this up?
Have you found a Google home or Alexa work around?
Yeah this solution still works great. I do not have a workaround yet for Alexa / Google
Hello. Thanks for everything you do. Do I need 2 RCA cable per RCA source?
Yes
Any way alexa can control this? On and off features
Great Video about the ability to run the amplifier remotely. My monoprice 6 zone amp is on order but my question is will this application work for me if I do not have a "home network"? I do not plan to have a data provider install service to my cabin, so would I need some sort of wifi or bluetooth device to link the iTach to to receive streaming source data from like an apple iphone? Or does this iTach receive and convert as well? If not, I'd prefer wifi due to superior range over bluetooth. What would you recommend?
mbeanbag2 you do not need internet for the itach to work, you do need a "local network" though as you said. So you will still need a router, you might as well buy a cheap wifi/router combo on Amazon. However, you do not stream music to the itach. The itach is strictly for controlling the amps zones through the apple or android apps. To stream music to it you need a Chromecast or Bluetooth device plugged into the amp. The chromecast might need internet however.
Hey man I got a Rossound Cav 6.6 multi zone controller, with the RS32 port and I want to do this setup but I don’t know if it’s the same for this Amp or the commands are different for the app. Can you shred some light here?? Thanks in advance
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I needed to split my audio sources to both amps for this to work. The audio inputs did not pass along the ribbon cable.
I have learnt a lot watching your videos. Thank you! I just bought the Monoprice 6 zone amp watching your video and have two zones up and running. I am using Apple Airport Express so I can airplay via iphone/ipad. Saved me tons of money taking this route vs Sonos Connect AMP and individual speakers. Thank you again! I need some help with extending HDMI over Cat6 to stream 4K latest format (chroma 4:4:4 or 4:2:2) not sure if there is another one but would like to future proof. I have seen several devices out there but not sure which one is the best. Distance 125 feet max. Any recommendations? Also have question on monoprice app, iTach Flex IP. I don't know if I buy hdmi over cat6k extender if I will need iTach flex IP. Is there another device which can do both i.e. hdmi over cat6k with few RS-232 ports to ethernet? I appreciate it again. Thank you!
I dont know of a device that would do hdmi as well as rs232. If you did find it, i know my app doesn't support it because my app is programmed specifically for the iTach line of devices. The iTach's are very good and reliable devices, you should still give it a try!
question with new wireless streaming built-in can you stream from all 6 zones with different devices at the same time
I assume you are talking about my new video of the WS66i amp, that one has 2 built in worked streamers, so you can simultaneously stream 2 separate things to any of the zones, but you can't stream wirelessly more than 2 since there's only 2 built in streamers. But if you wanted 6 different things playing, you would have to hook up the other 4 sources
can you use two of the monoprice amp and connect both to the app with using two different connected wireless adaptor recommended by you to your app?????
No, my app is not designed in that way. Installing these in general, when you use 2 or even 3 amps, you would chain them together. So you would have a master, slave 1 and slave 2 amp. Using in this scenario would give you a 6 zone 6 source, or a 12 zone 6 source, or an 18 zone 6 source setup. If you chain them together like this, you only need 1 of the wireless adapters and my app can handle up to all 18 zones. But, if you want to keep the amps separated like you mentioned, no my app cannot handle it like that. By the way, check out my new video on my channel about the Soundavo WS66i ! It's a wonderful upgraded amp, and my app works directly with it. No adapter needed
how can you use this for 5.1 audio for tv?
I'm interested in the Monoprice system. Can you tell me where you purchase them on sale? I didn't see that Amazon carried it, and of course it's full MSRP on their website.
Monoprice website is the best place to get them you'll just have to watch for when they get discounted some. Even at full price they are worth it and cheaper than the DAX66
I think you're a true hero! I gotta ask, the iPad you're using do you have it mounted on a wall somewhere?
Yes it's mounted in the wall, i used this wall mount. www.amazon.com/Wall-iPad-Mount/dp/B00GUDAFS8/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1529854233&sr=8-14&keywords=ipad+wall+mount
TheKMZ1 do you use it for other home automated items other than just the the surround and where is it located? I'm just wondering the usefulness and if the wall switch would be just as effective
Kevin Campbell if you watch my 2018 Smart home video I think I demonstrate the use of the iPad more, but in a nutshell it can control the whole home audio and the smart lighting
TheKMZ1 haha was just watching it. Whatta think you spent on that setup?
Kevin Campbell it was between 9 and 10k
Thanks for this video. Very impressive and a great idea. One question, though: can you use this setup to control the Monoprice or Dayton amps without ever installing the keypads that come with those systems? Or do the keyapds need to be installed for this to work? Would love to use this setup but unfortunately can't install the keypads that come with the Monoprice or Dayton amps as I I don't have Cat 5e or Cat6 wiring running through my walls (my home is wired for an older system whose keypads used 22AWG 4-conductor wire). Thanks for your help!
You do not need to install the keypads, this works perfectly fine without the keypads! If you haven't bought a system yet, check out my channel on the new upgraded amps. You can buy an amp only and not the entire kit and I've got a coupon discount code
@@TheKMZ1 That's great! Will head over and check out the upgraded amp now. Thanks so much!
So if I have 2 amplifiers linked together like in the video I will just need 1 rs232 cable plugged into the master and 1 flex link? Or I need one plugged into the slave as well? Thanks
You just need 1 itach flex and 1 itach flex RS232 with it hooked into the master. The amps linked together know how to handle the requests!
I wish we could have Monoprice here in brazil
Check out the WS66i
I think they would ship to Brazil
theKmz1. Have you tried connecting ir emitters to these zone amps and used logitech harmony with it?
I have not
Hello. I just ordered the amplifier. The parts you recommended on amazon are sold out. Are there newer versions you can recommend? I would greatly appreciate it
Are you talking about the itach flex? They aren't sold out, here is the RS232 cable amzn.to/2U16fXl and here is the Ethernet model amzn.to/3eCdpJg and here is the wifi model amzn.to/2U2ytkm
Which ribbon cable do I need to buy to make this work? Thanks in advance!
The ribbon cable comes with the amplifier kit but the itach flex and rs232 you buy separately
Thanks for the great videos!! Maybe i'm missing something but what are the differences between the Flex-IP iTach Flex IP Module & the Monoprice Audio RS-232 to IP Adapter? They appear to do the same thing. Thanks!
There is no difference, the MP device they just released not long ago. No one has requested it so I've not yet added support for it in my app
@@TheKMZ1 When you say that you haven’t added support for the MP RS-232 to IP adapter, does that mean the MP unit won’t work with your iPhone app currently?
@@michaellaliberte my app is the Android app, I don't have anything to do with the iPhone app so I can't speak for that app.
TheKMZ1. I am looking to find out how your Android app send commands to the monoprice unit. I’m trying to use the iTach to get SmartThings (via Webcore) to talk to the monoprice unit but I do t know how to send the messages to iTach. Would you be willing to help out with this, seeing as you’re obviously an Android programmer?
Thanks!
I don't use smart things but have you read the command structure document? If you type DAX66 commands in Google, there is a pdf that describes how to send the commands. Let me know if you have any other questions after reading that
Hello, I really love your videos. I am in the process of building a new house and getting everything pre-wired. I have a few questions for you and dunno if you are able to help me.
- How do I control each zone with Alexa? Do I need to hook an echo device at each input in the amp for each corresponding room?
- I saw that now you have the Android version of the app in PlayStore. Is the android version stable or do we need to download the Apple version?
- Once the Amp becomes wireless, is there a way to add Alexa Echo speakers wirelessly to the Amp ecosystem? My point is that I want to add Alexa control on each zone but if I have an echo input on the amp and then an echo dot in the room plugged to control voices, the echo dot itself becomes isolated from the Whole Home Audio and zoning.
Not sure if I explained well what I meant. My point is that if there are some isolated speakers like Echos, how do we integrate and manage them as secondary independent speakers or grouped with all the other ceiling speakers in the same room?
Hey there. Right now, you can't control the zone with alexa, such as you cant say alexa, turn zone 1 off. However, you can use alexa to control the music. Because if alexa is an input source, you can say alexa go to the next song. Also, the echo dots have the 3.5mm audio output, so technically, you could tell alexa to turn up or down, and it would adjust the volume. BUT, that is just adjusting the signal going into the amp, which does work. Just keep in mind that is not technically adjusting the zone's volume. Yes, the android app has been stable for a long time, have you seen my new video here ruclips.net/video/VMUl4TANpmw/видео.html you might find this new WS66i amp better for your needs, it's a new upgraded model! My app does also work with this, it has the integrated app control built into it.
Now, actually that you mentioned it, are you wanting 1 alexa dot, to only control each zone? So in other words you want each zone to be completely separate, with only it's alexa control? If so, there is a much better amp, and cheaper for you. It would be this Soundavo MZ series amp www.soundavo.com/collections/multi-channel-amplifiers this is the same company who re-built the new upgraded monoprice amp, very high quality. You can see I tested out the MZ series in this video ruclips.net/video/dVjiZeCCnqA/видео.html you can get 15% off of this amp if you used code TKMZ15
Let me know if you have any questions
@@TheKMZ1 First, thank you for replying so fast. So much appreciated.
1. Basically, I was thinking of buying some Echo Inputs and hook each one to an input sources in the Amp (by 3.5mm or using splitters). Then I would assign each Input source to a specific corresponding zone allowing me to replicate all the zones in my Alexa App. The idea is to be able to say: "Alexa play music in the Kitchen". I wanted to have a Plex Server or OurJukeBox set up to play local music on a NAS just by talking to Alexa.
2. Voice commands have limitations. Some music have no artist name, various artists or maybe japanese songs hard to control via voice commands. That's where a mobile app like yours or Soundavo would be awesome to play music from the local network.
3. Now, I can have guests or myself who want me to play a local music from their phone.. not from the NAS. The Chromecast / Soundavo streaming seems to answer to that need.
4. Last thing, if in one bedroom zone, my ceiling wires are hooked to the Amp in the basement which is now wifi connected as in the video or with the Soundavo, can I wirelessly connect the speakers to a new TV in that bedroom? Do I have to re-wire all the speakers behind the walls down to the Amp again? If there is an easy way to connect the ceiling speakers to the TV wirelessly through wifi, that would be awesome.
5. I unfortunately already bought the DAX66 before finding your videos. I will need another Amp because I find myself having nearly 10-11 zones. Can I buy the Soundavo and make it the Master and expand the Dax66 on it as a slave?
6. I was planning to have an AV Receiver in the Living Room zone to hook the TV, PS4 etc... and a 5.1 ceiling surround that would be Alexa and wifi compatible. Is this an overkill or valid? If so, anything you would recommend there that would integrate well in what I am trying to accomplish?
Thank you
Yes you can absolutely buy the soundavo ws66i, and use that as your master amplifier, and then use the DAX66 as your slave! Don't forget to use my code TKMZ to get yourself a good discount. 4) There is unfortunately no way to have wireless in ceiling speakers. 6) Don't confuse the whole home audio amps with surround sound amps. They are very different, so if you want surround sound you would need to use a surround sound amp for that. You can still have those speakers be a part of a zone though, by using the pre-amp outputs. But you need to decide, do you want actual 5.1 surround sound, or do you just want whole home audio. Having 5.1 surround sound is still very valid, some people want it, some people do not. Some people have theater rooms, and some do not. So it all depends on what you want, but the nice thing is that the pre-amp outputs allow you to include those in on a zone.
@@TheKMZ1 One last question, if I make the ws661 as master and dax66 as slave, will I be to leverage the Soundavo app and streaming services to control the zones on my dax66 seamlessly?
@@Fumoffuu yes the app and everything will still work, not a problem with the DAX66 as slave!
Would this work with Alexa voice control per zone?
No
Have you had any experience with Home Assistant and the Monoprice amp?
Unfortunately no
So for the Chromecast input you would have to first open the monoprice app and select the zone and source. Then open your music app and cast to the Chromecast?
To change the volume would you do it through the casting app or the monoprice app?
Would the amp automatically turn on if the selected input started playing?
Yes what I do is cast to it, then open the app and turn it on. You can do the other way around if you want. I usually keep all my zones on the Chromecast already. No the zones don't turn on automatically if it senses audio. But if you want that behavior just leave the zone on all the time
@@TheKMZ1 thanks. This helps a lot. I currently have speaker wire inline volume knobs in each zone. Would this be a problem?
@@dancremens5273 yes because this system doesn't use analog volume control, its digital with Ethernet cable
any other cable recommendations? Amazon is showing the item is unavailable and no date for if/when it will be back. Thanks for the help!
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So to get to that screen for the itach flex you just type in it’s IP address into the url bar?
Yep that is correct
Do you know if this would work on a nuvo amplifier.
I doubt it but I'd have to see the commands that amplifier can accept
What is the part of the amp that has 6 sources and is labeled “IR Emitters”? Are they to run IR ‘eyes’ to each of your sources for remotes or something?
I'm not 100% sure, i think it's some kind of IR pass through, but the keypads already have built in IR, that you dont have to set up because they are already built in. You can use the included remote that comes with the kit, and aim it at any keypad and use the volume/sources/on off and it will turn off that zone that you are pointing it at. Pretty neat
TheKMZ1 Oh that’s cool I didn’t even know it included a remote (I don’t think it mentioned it/only briefly mentioned it on the monoprice website). Thanks for the info!
I can’t configure the iTach. My computer can’t find it
Reset the iTach to factory settings and try again, also have you tried the ihelp application by global cache? It should find it
Do you know if you an use the Monoprice 6 Zone with Logitec Harmony app and control each zone and source from there?
Probably but I don't know
Your page is very helpful. Just installed a 6 zone in a new build and working my way though it all. Have plans to up grade to a 12 zone system when I finish the basement.
Can you use a google home or Alexa to turn on a certain zone at a given time? I would like to set this up so in the morning trying to wake the kids up for school start their music in their rooms, or be able to ask google to turn on the patio.
Right now i don't know of any alexa or google home skill that can turn on/control the amp similar to how this ipad app controls it wirelessly. The only thing i can think of currently, is that on the alexa dot, it has an aux jack where you can hook it up to external speakers. That could be a source for the amp, but the problem is that you would have to have alexa still close enough that you could talk to it. And then you would have to leave the zone on in the kids room so when you had alexa turn on, it would immediately start playing.
Do I have to install all keypads? Thanks
No
Thanks again for the video just got 2 installed strapped together, my only problem is we have more than 6 sources coming into these amps is there anyway to add more sources to this app or another app?
Call me please 979-571-5131
@@quicktechav my app supports up to the maximum 18 zones / 6 source configuration
TheKMZ1 Thank you for the quick reply! So there’s no way to utilize the sources on the second amp from the app, I have 4 Bluetooth wall plates 3 TVs and one Alexa that all needs to be tied into this system
I’d love to check out your app if it’s better than the Monoprice one!
@@quicktechav which app are you looking at? I built the Android app, not iOS. My Android app works like the iOS app, and most people who chain these together use the ribbon cable and have 1 amp in master, 1 in slave. So therefore the normal configuration is that you can't use the 2nd set of sources. Because the normal configuration is let's share 6 across all zones. Rather than having each set of 6 completely separate sources
How do you find the ip address?
Do you need to use a Dynamic DNS hosting service? I'm having trouble connecting from my phone app to the unit.
No you would just use the local ip address. Unless you are trying to be able to control while you are away from the house? I have not tested that but locally just use local ip
@@TheKMZ1 Okay, I'll try again. Error I'm receiving is when I go to save changes. I used the iHelp config tool to find the unit and then pulled up configure. It may be worth mentioning that I don't have the 232 cable hooked up yet as it is supposed to be delivered later today. Does that matter?
Error calling 192.168.1.30/api/v1/version?jsonp=jQuery1102014008051693631218_1560963425669&_=1560963425670, Error:SyntaxError: Unexpected token :
I got the IP to save now but even after putting the correct IP in the app on my Samsung S9 Plus it show "communication error!"
I have this plugged into an Orbi router. Are there settings that need to be changed on the router?
@TheKMZ1 looks like my amp's key pads are all dead. monoprice support saying rj45 for the key pads must be dead. The lights of the amp still go on so I think it is still alive. I was thinking of controlling it with the rs232. You think that would work and bypass keypad controls. Do you know of people that use your app with no keypads attached?
Yes it works with no keypads no problems at all. Many people are doing that with my app. Although if all your keypads went dead, it's likely a module inside the amp that went bad and not the keypads themselves.
Hi, do you know if there’s other RS232 interfaces Rather than the iTach? One that connects to the router Directly then wifi?
iTach wWorked for a couple weeks and then I have to reconfigure it again
You probably had to reconfigure it because you didn't set a static ip address. You need to give it a static IP so your router doesn't change it, and itach makes a wired version as well
Can you add Monoprice to a Control4 system?
I have no idea, sorry
What cable do you use to connect the Monoprice Amp (RS232) to the Global Cache Device. I see the 3 connections spots on the Global Cache device. Ethernet (I assume goes to my home network), Mini USB (assume for power if not using POE), and 3.5 mm female hole (assume for serial communication). Do I buy the:
Global Cache FLC-SL-232 Flex Link RS232 Serial Cable - 5' Serial Data Transceiver with 3.5mm Plug for iTach Flex Link IP/IP with PoE/Wi-Fi Modules
from Amazon?
You'll buy the global cache rs232 flex link cable (link in the video description is the cheapest) and it plugs in to the 3.5mm cable. It has to be their brand of cable and not a nock off
@@TheKMZ1 I was able to buy the cable on Amazon. I tried your link and it showed out of stock.
Thanks for answering my questions so quickly. I will be buying you a few cups of coffee.
Thanks for the great video. I was having trouble setting up the itach and used the iHelp app from global cache to find the IP address. However, I am now having trouble get the volume, bass and treble buttons to slide within the app. Could it be because the source is not active? I also only hooked up 3 keypads but have six zones. Do I need to run keypads into my utility room next to the monoprice amp to control a zone through the app since its serial commands? or will the itach work as a substitute to keypads? Thanks.
You do not need the keypads to be installed, the app can be used in place of the keypads
Thanks for the quick reply. Any idea why the app would be communicating with the itach device but not with the monoprice amp? I put all the info in the IP webpage as recommended in this video and am not getting a reaction from the amp. Serial cable is connected. IP address was found and populated. @@TheKMZ1
can you go to monopriceaudio.kztechconsulting.com/faq and use the iTest application as described in one of my FAQs and that will tell you if the iTach device is really working or not. I will point out that you need to make sure you are using the Global Cache branded serial cable, theirs is proprietary. Also make sure the ip address gateway information is set correctly. But give that iTest application a go and tell me what the results are. Thanks
I just got a 3.mm to serial cable of amazon. Sounds like that might be the problem, but I will give the faq a whirl tonight when I get home, really appreciate the help@@TheKMZ1
yes that is definitely the (or a main) problem!
can you explain how the 2 amps work together? if you have 12 zones in total can you specify any source to go to any zone? how would it do that if all of the speakers outputs are not going out of the same amp?
There is a switch on the back of the amps, the switch you select either master, slave1 or slave2. And then there is a ribbon cable that physically connects the amplifiers together. It is that ribbon cable that allows the other amp(s) to share the sources
@@TheKMZ1 thanks man. You're inspiring me to duplicate your setup and buy your amp. So basically if all sources are connected to amp 1, and zone 8 is on amp 2, I can controller to play a source from amp 1 in zone 8? Also your Zim website is down. Was looking for it to send you DM.
@@Lenser yes all sources have to be in the master amp and the slave amplifiers will know about them. Which website? I have kztechconsulting.com and it is up
@@TheKMZ1 Google play shows your website as kadinzim.com
@@Lenser ahhh ok that's old I'll update it thanks! You can also visit monopriceaudio.kztechconsulting.com
I am using the itach WiFi to Serial model it is not working. (Previously worked, changed my router). How am i sure I am using the correct server?
Does your device have a static ip address
Does not appear that it does
DHCP gets set to disabled, correct? So I set whatever IP address I want?
DHCP is ok for configuring but preferably not so that way the IP does not change on you
@@TheKMZ1 I don't get it.It keeps changing ip address on me how do I fix that TY
Hi would you prefer wifi version over the stander one of itech flex ip. I'm not sure which on to buy ?
With anything I prefer the standard hard wired ethernet. But if you can't have access then wifi
@@TheKMZ1 so I install my keypads according to manual cat5 cable tip accordion to the manual wg,g,wo,b,wb,o,wb,b.The problem is keypads not coming on.Also amp comes on for a minute and the blue lights goes off.I also weird cat 5 cable from the master box to the amp the same order of colours pls help
So do you know of a controller or setup that if a Apple TV is playing in 1 room and a Fire TV in another you can mount them both in the server rack and pic with TV you want it to play to ? Kind of like your video for speakers and input but for Video and control it through an app? The audio inputs your running into the monoprice amp comes from your direct tv or Apple TV ? Did you see any changes in L and R signal when you connected 2-4 speakers per room? The dip switches on the back of each keypad if you only have 1 controller can you still pic all 6 zones from that 1 keypad? Then if you had 12 zones you would switch dip switch 2 on ?
i dont know of a system that does that with video. I did not ever connect more than 2 speakers per zone. If you have 12 zones, you set 1 amplifier's switch to master, and the other amplifier's switch to slave 1. The switches are on the back of the amplifier. Then each keypad still uses the dip switches for determining zones 1 - 6, but zone 1 on the slave 1 knows that it is really zone 7, etc. etc.
If you want more than 6 zones, you need more than 1 controller
Soo I found a system by Xantech that is a IR extender kit. Basically you mount the Apple TV and everything in the rack and run the wire to the bottom of the keypad or area in the home where you point the remote. That’s how you get around it. www.xantech.com/products/all/ir-kits/all
Can you tell me if each device you used to connect to each source actually had an audio out?
What's the difference between cat5 and cat6?
Not much difference, higher maximum allowed speed. Unless you have the equipment to support those higher speeds then it may not matter. Also, the price difference is not much between both cable, so using cat6 has kind of become standard, because the price difference is hardly any
@@TheKMZ1 thanks for replying so quickly. I have another question. Where do i get the cable for the sources (RG6)? i looked it up and it looks like regular coax cable for cable boxes. How do you use that for an RCA connector?
Do you know if this wifi solution will work with the Nuvo NV-I8GMS amp??
I am about 99% confident that it will not work, because the commands to this amplifier are specific to this amp
Thanks
I've gotten the audio down but still confused about video. How do you do this with video?
What do you mean? This doesn't really have anything to do with video, but if you want a tv's audio to come through the speakers you need to input the audio with RCA
@@TheKMZ1 Yeah I know this doesn't deal with video. You made the audio crystal clear. I was just wondering how to do video distribution too. Thanks.
Would you be able to add 2 servers to the app
If you have the amps chained together in like a 12x6 or 18x6 matrix you only need 1 itach flex and you would only add 1 amp. But if you are asking if you want your amp in here and a friends amp for when you go to his house, no you can't add it like that, it only supports 1
Thank you for your videos. Chromecast Audio has been discontinued. Do you suggest an alternative? Thanks!
Have you bought this amplifier yet? If not, there is a new redesigned monoprice amp that has come out, I've got one in the box and will be doing a video on it. It has 2 wireless streamers built in and the app control interface built in!
TheKMZ1 yes, bummer. I bought the Dayton dax66. I have everything hooked up to existing ceiling speakers and have all the keypads working. We just purchased the home and everything was prewired along with cat5e cables running to each wall port that had existing elan volume controllers.
@@kimhoward6124 no problem look up the soundavo WS66i I've got that in a box and doing an awesome revealing of that soon!!
TheKMZ1 maybe I’ll return this one. Literally got delivered yesterday.
@@kimhoward6124 if you do return it, I can get you a coupon which would get you that amp kit at a good percentage off. I think my coupons will make it be $1349 and free shipping. I know it's a little more, but these are packed with new features that would otherwise cost hundreds of dollars in add ons to the DAX66!
Still not able to connect. I'm thinking I'm missing something at the IP config page for the iTach Flex. I can find the unit with the iHelp tool and when I click on the network settings tab I'm basically just clicking "save" to the IP info that auto populated. Is that correct?
No, once you use iHelp, just get the ip address and then use your computer, go to the web browser and type the IP address in. You will then be directed to the web admin page. From there you need to assign a static ip address to your unit so that it does not ever change anymore. You need to make sure that you assign it correctly so that it is in the address range that your router is giving out ip addresses. Most home routers are 192.168.1.X with the subnet being 255.255.255.0 and the gateway being the same ip address as your router...using my example above a lot are 192.168.1.1 again though you need to use whatever range your router is giving out
@@TheKMZ1 I've assigned the static IP. The iTach shows up in my list of connected devices. I'm also able to hit the static IP and get to the iTach config page off of my computer, phone, and tablet. When I plug that IP into the app I get "Communication error! There's an issue communicating to the iTach device. Verify the IP Address in the Settings". That doesn't make sense as I'm able to hit the iTach from multiple devices through the static IP. The subnet and gateway were in line with you recommendation which I confirmed. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
So I have almost gotten everything dialed in. I have multiple sources (3 echo dots). I was getting feedback from my speakers once I hooked up the iTach. Then added the new echos and attempted to play music using the Amazon app and bluetooth to sync my phone and echos. I can't get music to stream through my speakers nor do I get any feedback anymore. Any ideas?
Well it works now. I think there may have been a glitch in the app. The app gave me an option to select certain echos or stream everywhere. Once I selected everywhere the music streamed. Now it's streaming on each device as individual sources. I was really stuck and your videos helped me figure out the rest, so thank you!
Great to hear!
I bought the 6 zone 12 channel amp. Model number 31028 from monprice by mistake. Can i still use the app to control it? I thought it was the same amp just without keypads.
The commands are different and the amp is not the same. It physically looks the same but it's definitely not that is a 70v amp and is less capable for zoned audio you need the other
@@TheKMZ1 ok thank you I appreciate the fast response
can you control it with alexa?
Not at the moment
I'm trying to set up my new ipad so I have a device that stays in my house as the audio control. I set up my Monoprice app but I don't see any devices when I open up Spotify. It's been a while since I initially set up this system for my phone. Any advice?
Which app are you using? The Android or iOS? Which amp do you have? The monoprice amp doesn't have a streamer built in so I'm not sure what you are expecting to see when you open Spotify
@@TheKMZ1 I’m using Spotify with 3 echos. I have the Monoprice 6-zone amp. I have two of them with 11 zones configured. When I play music on Spotify from my phone, it recognizes the echos. I select one of the devices, it streams music through the zones connected to that device. The problem I’m having is that I bought a new iPad to use for my house and I can’t seem to figure out how to get Spotify to recognize those devices on it. I did it 6 months ago for my phone but I’m drawing a blank now. I’m using the premium account for Spotify so that everyone can have their own login, including the house. If I use my login that is already configured on my phone, it shows the devices. If I log into my new “house” account, they don’t show up. Somewhere I’m missing a step in connecting my Spotify to my network so that it sees those devices.
I couldn’t get hold of the serial RS 232 to mini jack from global cache so I ordered one off Amazon will that work OK with the ITACH flex?
No it must be a global cache brand cable. They have special circuitry and it will only work with theirs
TheKMZ1 ahh Thank you for your quick response!
I can verify that the cheaper Amazon cables do not work. I bought a $7 cable thinking I'd save myself some money, but it didn't work. I bought the $30ish Global Cache cable and it works great now.
The main obvious difference between the Amazon cable and the Global Cache cable is the 3.5mm plug on the Amazon was like a Stereo plug and the 3.5mm plug on the Global Cache was like a Stereo+Mic plug.
Can you play the music you have on your iPhone to any zones?
Yes but you have to connect something like an apple air player, or chromecast audio, or a Bluetooth receiver to the amp but yes definitely possible
@@TheKMZ1 I've been researching for hours without finding anything clear for something that used to exist with Airport (Apple). I'm building a house and I'm going to prewire for in ceiling speakers. What we want to do, is to be able to "airplay" music that we have on our phones to the speakers in the ceiling and be able to chose in which zone to play. I can't find a video or article online that indicates how to do it and what to buy.
Do you have a video that would explain how to set this up?
@@julienriegel8246 I don't have a video no but all you need to do is get one of those airport express routers which has an audio out, plug that into this amp as a source and I think you can use your phones to cast to the airport express. Look up the airport express and see how it works and I think that should help
@@TheKMZ1 Indeed, I was looking at those "airplay receiver". Airport express doesn't exist anymore, and they don't really have a replacement shockingly. They have a lot of bluetooth receiver on the market, I would prefer through wifi than bluetooth.
another question, can you have two sources connected at the same time to the amp? And can the two sources play in two different zones at the same time? Meaning Source 1 play in Kitchen while Source 2 play in Bathroom?
Thanks for your help
@@julienriegel8246 yes it can have 6 sources hooked up at the same time, check my channel out, I have a video detailing the amplifier!
Does the app work with any of the other Monoprice MultiZone Amps?
What other multizone amps do they have? This only works with the product id 10761 but if you send me other links I can look
@@TheKMZ1 www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=31028
@@mikeramo that is their 70v model and it uses different commands, so my app is not compatible with that
Anyone know how to add a streaming source to this receiver
Look up the WS66i amplifier. I will be uploading a video to my channel in a few days about this amp. I can get you about $500 off if you are looking to buy! It has 2 wireless streamers built in, very awesome upgrade to these amps
TheKMZ1 looking forward to the video
TheKMZ1 how do I get the $500 off?
@@kingkhawk at checkout on soundavos website, use code TKMZ
The best thing is that you can get the entire kit or the amp only, and if you ever need parts you can get them from them. The other amps they only sell the kits. So soundavo is really now the developers and best company
How do the multiple keypad ethernets connect to one? Do you use a hub or something? UPDATE: I guess it comes with the adapter as you can see in this video @ 3:15- ruclips.net/video/rn1UOfJ7hUc/видео.html
Yes, and the hub comes with this amplifier kit. Look at my channel I have a new video up of the redesigned version of this amplifier!
Is there a similar app that runs on android?
Currently no, but I have plans in the future to write my own for android which would use the same iTach flex device.
Is there a way to get notified when you get the Android app working/available? Any expected date? I'd be happy to test if you need.. I have 3 of the units daisy chained with 3 inputs and 18 outputs.
Flight23 I've been working on it for a week now, I have almost all of the UI built and modeling done. Just wrapping up a few UI items remaining and then I need to write the actual http requests that get sent to the iTach flex device. My goal is end of June! Do you already have an iTach flex?
Nope, ordering it now, should have it by Friday. Cant wait to test the app!
Flight23 I'm excited to release it! First android app I've created. This first release won't have zone grouping, but I'll add it in a subsequent release. I'm not sure how I'll develop that part. If a zone is in a "zone group" then it should only be allowed to be in 1 group? Or would you think you can make groupings where a zone appears more than once?
Hey man, I've been using the app for about a year. The app has started crashing after the latest Android update
I have a Pixel 4 XL with the latest update
is something up with the app? it keeps crashing on me.
Did your IP address change on your itach? If so, there is a bug, I need to fix it but haven't had time. You will need to go into the Android settings > applications, find the audio control app and then clear data and clear cache. This will let you set the app up fresh again and input the new IP address. Also, set your itach flex to a static IP ;)
@@TheKMZ1 that may be the issue. i used the default iTach ip address. and then i added the zone names. once i restarted app it keeps crashing and i cant go back and change the ip address i entered.
got correct ip address from router, named all zones, screen keeps staying on "refreshing zones" - please wait while zone info is gathered
and then it crashes. i had to purchase and refund 3 times already. not sure if this is something you can fix. otherwise i am SOL with wireless monoprice
I GOT IT!!!!! forgive my confusion. YOU DA MAN. now i need to figure out how to set it up with my chromecast
@@nubar5 great! What was the piece you were missing?
Hi Kadin, I recently came across your channel regarding whole home audio, and you have some exact things that I was looking to do for my setup. Do you have a direct contact where we can talk about this further?
Gerard on my channel on the desktop, under about you can click the button for a business inquiry which you can email me
I am able to ping the flex ip at 192.168.1.70 but when I enter the IP in the browser it doesnt open the portal. Any suggestions?
Check monopriceaudio.kztechconsulting.com/faq and also it sounds l like you are somehow not in the same ip address subnet from your local network and your itach. Have you tried the iHelp application by Global Cache? And then finally if nothing else maybe a factory reset of your itach flex. Let me know if you need more help
@@TheKMZ1 I tried factory reset and didn't help. The iHelp program can't see it either.
@@Lenser It sounds to me like that is not the right ip address then. You say you can ping it but are you sure you are not pinging another device on your network? If you log into your router usually you can see a list of connected devices and there should be one with an itach name i think
@@TheKMZ1 I tried factory reset again and kept waiting for the iHelp and it finally found it. Got your app and currently configuring. You're my freakin hero!
@@Lenser love it! let me know if you need anything else
Would the itach IP to serial work the same? They are easier to get second hand at about half the cost. www.amazon.com/Global-Cache-iTach-Serial-IP2SL/dp/B0051BU1X4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1540667052&sr=1-4&keywords=itach
Also, where can I read more about your raspberry pi setup? I have one running Home Assistant and may be able to use it for this as well.
Hi , your videos are very helpful. Where are you located? I would to do the same in my house . Please let me know if you interested then we can share contact infos
Struggling on the connection to phone got the op address and port 4999 but not communicating with flex . If you could contact me maybe missing something
Is your phone on the same WiFi/network? Are you positive you have the IP address? You will know it's right if you use your phones web browser and you go to that address on your Web browser on your phone. The Web UI will load for the iTach
@@TheKMZ1 GOT IT BRO !!!! The switch was on slave