People usually resort to the "this game is dead" argument when there's something specific, they don't like about the game, the meta is destroying them because they keep using low tier, or they weren't playing the game if the first place they just love the chaos.
I don't agree MK11 was more finished product than MK1. Mk1 after 1 year still no lobby, can not select outfit, can not switch fighter between set in combat ligue etc...
You've shared some great points and its nice seeing other MK creators give genuine feedback on the game that is an honest view of criticism and pros. I also like seeing the engagement you have with your audience too. I'm still learning more about your channel and I really enjoy what I see. Good stuff!
I appreciate you bringing up the point that MK11 sold so well because of Covid lockdowns, and it being cross-gen. It’s something that most content creators don’t bring up.
Nick, I agree with you, but the NRS community is the epitome of the saying "you can't make everyone happy" The community are bunch of ungrateful nitpicking complainers. They'll regret this later.
@@TommyFlipStix good for you dude. I’ve been a demi god/God for most of the life of both games. I was okay at MK11 and yeah better at MK1 because ive enjoyed putting more time into it. Anyway, difficulty isn’t the point here. Kameos create a higher skill floor & ceiling than MK11. I think it would be silly for me to say people don’t like Kameos ONLY because they’re too ass at the game. MK11 just had ass mechanics.
Exactly. When people say they ruined the game, I’m like the game will literally be just like MK11 if we didn’t have hella combo potential with the kameos. You can’t win with MK fans lol
Finally someone who critiques but isn't just hating on MK. Comparing it to other fighters over and over again, when if you do the knowledge all fighters are not the same at all. Then you get into the main event the gameplay is hella fun. Perfect? Absolutely not. The kameo system is definitely radical, we all agree on this. Prior to MK1 hitting the scene we never expected to go assist based fighter, I'll give them that. That's one argument I can't win but that doesn't mean, the kameo system isn't interesting. It just wasn't fleshed out more due to time constraints. I've always felt, and still feel MK1 was originally supposed to be coming out for 2025. They rushed it out due to yeah WB, and said we will patch everything in later but that actually did more bad PR than good. Hence all the "MK1 is Dead" vids gaining much popularity. Back at launch in Sept 2023 we were missing features, it's better now yeah still missing online lobbies. Though hey improvents have been made but as they say first impressions are everlasting. As for the rest tbh we all have similar sentiments that timeline story stuff is a meme. Though yes as you pointed out, people do forget the criticisms. In 2030 watch how someone comes out with a YT vid. "I Was Wrong MK1 Was Lit Bruh". Heh.
Literally every time I see a vid titled “ mk1 dying or finally dead “ I just hit don’t recommend this channel cuz most them don’t even own the game let alone play it 😂 & im sorry but kameos are fire they make yu be more creative & 10 was scrubby asf 😂 but it was good tho 11 was trash
I agree with you. But I enjoyed x, 11 and 1. I enjoyed mk1 the most though. The down 1 not jailing into stand 1 drives me crazy in 11, and sometimes X just feels like wtf. But I still enjoy them all
Regarding the beginning of the video, calling anyone a shill isn't really an argument genuine people make, it's just an insult made to discredit someone's opinions without presenting any evidence or making any arguments. Basically playground polemics a-la "you stink, so I'm right", childish stuff. So you didn't really need to mention it, imo.
Thank you. I remember some fans getting uptight when I say Havik was never really that popular. Look at the 3d era, the only person that really made a huge dent was Kenshi. Why do you think they kept putting him in future installments.
only people with really short memory praises mk11 that much and acts like mk11 was that praised all day long. people fucking hated the game. it took a LONG time and a lot of changes to turn into a decent to good game
I know people who follow the competitive scene definitely know it's far from dead, when MK11 was launched, everyone was going back to hosting MKX & injustice tournaments because mk11 was too bad, now MK1 keeps everyone entertained & enjoyable to watch
As someone whos been a huge fan of mk and have played thousands of hours of all of them from mk9. What you said in this video is 90% correct. Some of that remaining 10% is the following: - MK community is pretty split on kameos overall, however it's true that casuals dont like them, and casuals make up for a huge part of the community (hence why 11 is cherished). But semi-compeititive to competitive players are about 50/50 on kameos from a gameplay perspective. - If you ask anyone who's played every nrs era mk what the best/favorite was you said it's very likely they're gonna say mkx. I really believe the TRUE OGs of nrs mk would pick MK9 with X as a very solid and respectable second place. However, so many "og players" stopped playing when 11 dropped (cause it sucks) that most of the community today is made up from MK11 babies onwards, so many of them would pick MK11 as their favorite, but it's just because that was their first game and haven't played 9 or X. - MK11 is also the highest selling mk to date in part because its the most casual/offline content rich mk to date, and also has the biggest hand holding trash player carrying mechanics of them all, so no wonder it appealed to so many casuls who bought the game Overall pretty accurate video, you really know your stuff about nrs mk, which is rare to find
MK1 isn't dying, it has the best fighting of any other MK, MK11 did everything else better though. MK11s look, MK1s fighting, and ditch kameo system, would make the best MK of all time.
Not only did MK11 come out on multiple different consoles, but it really caught traction because of the pandemic. The game was out for 6 months and then most people were to sit at home and get paid.
Has to be the stupidest argument ever considering there’s literally other games to play. People are acting like mk11 was the only game to play at the time lmao.
Claiming the game is "officially" dead. Cause of an insider already breaks purpose of the official thing, can't say that it's not looking bad for MK1 but the game must be announced to not have any longer support by the devs as a final confirmation to official 100%. Also a little mistake from you, MK11 had 3 fighter packs but they named the last one kombat pack 2 despite MK aftermath doing a character pack.
@francix2000 Well, then I'm not technically wrong if it's still called kp2 loool. But still, I combined that statement with 2 years worth of kontent. And kp2 and aftermath only had 3 characters each. They were supposed to drop together but nrs split them up to keep the illusion of consistent content.
@user-hh2vi8py3s MK11 had better cuatomization and offline content but, competitevely speaking, i enjoy more MK1, game is obviously flawed but this ain't different from prev. Mk games, only offline the game doesn't have much, needs more than invasions and towers of time personally.
@@NickopzTV true, not sure that MK1 might have more support than 11 yet since this pack came a bit too early, i don't remember the lifespan of 11 but for sure, even after the end of support, r1ps arena tournaments were supporting it's competitive side for a year and more if i'm not wrong, so it's not gonna die like in a instant like no player, but nrs must do something to enjoy the game for those who play this.
@@francix2000 This is exactly my thought, the gameplay is hella good but lacks offline modes, that's why casuals are going back to Mk11, when i player Mk11 i never touched offline modes and i only played Online for like, 6 months, but with Mk1 i've been already playing this game since March of this year and i dont intend to finish, is so fun!!
Sorry bozo this game is buried I fear. No communication or updates about the cancellation rumor, selling the not even finished dlc pack for 60% off 2 months after release, recolored and reskinned outfits in the shop, no guest outfits, recycled invasions seasons, etc. WB already pulled Suicide Squads plug now it’s this game’s turn
Totally agree with you about MKX & to me that was the last great perfect classic Mortal Kombat game in my opinion. Great video & you’ve got a new sub. 👍🏻
Honestly nickopz, i feel like even if u might be right about the lack of care of the majority for havik, its not the main issue. That writing was horrible. None of the things that make havik cool were there for titan havik, just ur typical bad villian. ironically extremely predictable for a "chaos" character. Even his "death" was odd for a character whos literal power is fucking regeneration. Plus the whole bs with multiverse and ironwoman cyber ninjas. And 50 dollars for an hour and a half of an atrocious story is too much to ask. I dont think the problem is havik, they could have easily made him a super intresting villain and im sure it would have been accepted and sold well as is cause he does have a ton of layers/potential to him. I think the poor sells was all of the things above. I think the havik thing is an extremely minor part of the problem.
"I'm just going to call you Tom since I don't know your name". Nick never fails to amuse me with that 😂😂😂. Of all the millions of names out there, he always defaults to Bill, Bob and Tom lol!
You couldn't be more wrong, The numbers are dropping faster. On top of it being a worse in almost every way possible, Especially the characters they're bringing back, The dlc is garbage bringing back the same overused boring as shit characters. The Female playable roster is absolutely atrocious, It's actually pathetically laughable. Not to mention the story was so bad I stopped halfway from laughing at how bad it was. So glad I didn't pay for this hot garbage.
The characters they brought back are the same ones y’all cried to come back in the game 😂 not yu mad about females in a game like wtf 😳 yu don’t like women or sumn 🤔
@@GLOCKCHESTER131 nobody gives af about ashrah/nitara bruh. Nobody wants gender-bent Cyrax/Sektor ESPECIALLY when the originals are in the damn game! All kameo characters shouldve been playable characters. DLC is trash outside of Omni-man and Homelander. This roster is buns my guy...
@ boy yu really bent outta shape about gender bent characters yea I’m done talking to yu & they literally asked the community who they wanted to see so clearly those yu named are in the game for a reason like none of ur points are valid just a bunch of bs yu regurgitating from someone else
@@GLOCKCHESTER131 Gender bent characters are pure laziness, No excuses to not make a new character or bring an old one back. There's no reason to change their gender whatsoever & is unnecessary like many other changes.
@@GLOCKCHESTER131 who are "they" and when did "they" ask the community who they wanted? Stop making up bs you see from reddit/youtube users to back up your shilling. Netherrealm NEVER asked anyone who they wanted in the game so stop the 🧢. All character polls were done by media outlets and out of all of the NONE OF THEM included NITARA, ASHRAH, or GENDER SWAPS. Literally nobody wanted that BS except lames like you. Make new female Lin Kuei if you wanna go that route but dont take beloved characters and swap their gender just for the sake of attempting to appeal to a certain demographic. I'm not surprised by your response though. I dont expect much intelligence from someone that struggles with spelling simple words like "You" 😅. Have a good day.
Mk1 is a victim of all these gen z complainers. We grow up with a casete game on a 90’s console we all happy with those shitty mortal Kombats back in the day. And NOW they are complaining? About what???? Mk1 is the best MORTAL KOMBAT Gameplay wise and STORY too. I’m sad asf if this game get canceled bc all this ppl that don’t even play the game “for real”. All these posers wanna be mk players with 0 fingers to press bottoms If u don’t like it. Don’t play it don’t talk about it.
Swift, you are going to buy the next mk game lol. Just like 90 percent of the community. They literally always make 2 years worth of content. Nothing out of the norm is happening.
I swear to god bro. Big homie I get what you coming from. But you got to let it go. Other developers showing us on other games that you don’t have to re skin from lazy effort. Cohan the barb is literally azura like come on bro. They literally telling us we going to eat it up and buy it anyway. And we sick of it bro.
The community was pissed 11 got dropped when it did, they lied about how long they would support it and low and behold looks like theyre pulling the same shit, promising a long life cycle and aborting early to rush out an under baked sequel. I would love to have a conversation with you if youre open to discussing mk because i disagree with you on some points and i think we could have a productive and interwsting talk cause im curious to pick your brain about some things
@thesaltmerchant4564 I already that said in the video lol. I said if you mad because Ed boon lied again I completely understand but that is the only thing I will budge on lol
Im mostly interested in talking about the game balance and general features more than player counts cause i think the game itself design ways is pretty poorly thought out.@NickopzTV
Mortal Kombat 1 is not dead but it definitely did its purpose. Like you’ve said before, they keep selling it, community keeps buying it… cycle continues. I personally liked MK11 more than 1 but not for gameplay reasons. MKX was accidental gold. They tried a lot of new stuff and like you’ve mentioned way back, it’s better to strengthen to weak usually than to weaken the strong. This is exactly why MKX was broken but loved beyond compare. 11 was very beautiful, amazing look to it and color scheme. Character designs had a huge upgrade from the gritty MKX. They took another giant risk with gameplay changes and they went in a way different direction in what I think was an attempt to “fix” what MKX did in fact do wrong. It overcorrected, diluted and for many, ruined what made the game fun. Their communication single handedly ruined that game for many, if they were straight up with the community we could have moved on at least earlier without fighting within. With that sour taste still in our mouths they chuck out MK1, an incomplete vastly complicated (compared to 11) buggy mess that lacked content. The issue to me boils down to them failing to recapture what they did in MKX which is ruining the competitive side me. For the casual side, there’s virtually no content outside of the same mid story mode that has terrible power scaling. The game isn’t dead but the game is not doing good either.
This video is beautiful. I love mk1 so much but it is not perfect. I loved the story but wish the multiverse wasn't in it. That was my main issue with the story. How are we supposed to explore this new era.. when other eras are clashing with it? As far as the gameplay. I don't hate the kameo system. But I would not like to see it again in the future. It's unfair that Sonya, Frost, Sareena, Kano, Jax, and Tremor fans have to play a portion of their characters rather than just fully playing them. Lastly thank you for this video. People COMPLAINED to hell and back about mk11. But then wanted to do a MJ spin and claim that mk11 is better than mk1... Nope I'm good. I've had more fun with mk1 than the entire life span of mk11.
MK1 is unfortunately garbage Guest characters and other shit won't save MK1 MK11 was the beginning of NRS's downfall I don't see this being alive past KP2
I don’t see the point of this video. I take issue with a number of statements. “Mk11 rode coattails of mkx.” Perhaps it’s simply a better product-read product and not game.
Is more better to stop make story mode and focus only in gameplay, graphics, customization, towers and characters like that no more restriction for them about characters.
Hey man I just touched up on this and Jade's voice actress released a message you should check out if you haven't heard it already. I gave you a shout in my latest keep up the good work man!
1. I don't think pointing out that MK1 only launched on next-gen consoles is doing MK1 any favours, since the textures, graphics and animation quality from MK1 looks undoubtedly inferior to MK11. Definitely a "shot-themselves-in-the-foot" moment, because the game definitely could've been released on last gen. It did affect sales but the hubris is also the studios' fault. 2. I don't think anyone who has ever pointed out the steam numbers for MK1 and Mk11 have really made that point with the idea in mind that MK playerbase primarily resides on PC. I've always viewed it as more of a ratio sort've thing. If there are more players playing MK11 on PC, then it stands to reason that there are more players playing MK11 on console as compared to MK1. I think the drop in sales supports this idea and also overall que time to find games between the two titles but that could be anecdotal. 3. Comparing Fortnite to MK1 in terms of the way it handles microtransaction is an apples to oranges comparison. Fortnite is a free-to-play game where the privilege of playing without cost barrier to entry exists. For MK, depending on what edition you purchased, you may be $60, $70, $110, to $140 deep already. On top of that the only content the game contains is primarily online, and maybe a weeks worth of gameplay in invasions which everyone agrees is a slog to playthrough. I don't think its bad that people demand more quality for their dollar in a game that is already charging so much to provide so little. Unlike previous titles; skins aren't even bundled this time around. I.E. all the deception skins sold in a pack for maybe $5 like it used to be before in previous MK games. All klassic skins sold in a pack etc. Instead it's $5 for 6 palettes for 1 char, it is egregious. You are correct to say people don't have to buy them, but incorrect to say people should just say nothing about it just because you are vexxed to hear it. No one expressing their grievance's of the game should affect your enjoyability of the game if you truly enjoy it. I can think of a few games that are guilty pleasures that I can acknowledge really aren't that good, but its fine I'm a fan. But I have no delusions about it and I don't clash with people that do not like it because I can acknowledge when a critique is constructive. 4. MK and by extension NRS and WB studios aren't owed defense. Bottom line: these are companies that exist to make money, but the costs has to be worth the quality. And its no ones "privilege" to be able to play any of their games since none of them are free. People have the right to complain and demand better and point out bad practice. On the fault of the playerbase they should vote with their wallet. In the line up of sequential MK games, some of the games are more than a decade apart now so its hard to say it's the same people between each game always saying the previous was better than the present. This topic/idea has been explained to death though. All the MK games of the NRS era are unique from each other and share a small amount of legacy. Between MK9/MKX to MK11 and from MK11 to MK1, I think even outside of legacy changes, the overall quality [Cost to benefit ratio] is on a decline. In MK11 for most it excelled at everything outside of gameplay, and the gameplay had some good feats that were overshadowed by flaws. I.E. being able to flawless block to negate chip which has thankfully carried over to MK1. Believe it or not not all legacy games [game with > or = to 2 titles in a series] have this issue. Most good games don't divide their communities and have this sort've discourse be a *prominent* issue. I think the fact that this happens again and again is evidence enough that its an issue. Good games don't have these problems. Good games don't require massive efforts of community defense and convincing other people that what they just played is good or in a "good state". If it were, it'd be self-evident.
1. It means ALOT. From reading most of what you typed you remind me of my friend. He doesnt really do research and only goes off what hes seen personally. You need to look at how many people are still playing on old gen consoles. 2. Now true at all. Multiple sources has pointed it out comparing it like its a big deal because other fighting games are decently popular on stream unlike mk. 3. I agree, but people who spend money or games like fortnite, I can promise you, they will spend more in that game more than THEY EVER will in MK. I completely agree they are lackluster in the skins and monetization department but its not NRS fault. Its WB fault. You think those big corp executives care that it cant be compared to fortnite? NO. They see. HEY, these game are doing this why cant we? The customization system is actually a joke. 4. It is not that simple. NRS does not have control like WB does. Sources that leaked the information of the game being done have also said that NRS is really upset about this. But what can they do? Tell there boss no? NRS right now is on a crunch release schedule because all those other WB games failed.
I am one of those ppl that believed that troll Boon when he said "this would be the longest supported game in a long time." Ngl I feel robbed especially with the trash dlc choices.
Making this game a kameo-only game is what made it doomed from the start. That decision alone immediately alienates a huge audience. How is there not a 1v1 mode in a MK game. Kameos are gimmicky and feel like some random side mode.
Mortal kombat 1 was exposed 3 months into its life cycle on how garbage the game and how much of a mess it is. It was already dying after 6 months. NRS games die after 2 years. NRS cant make good fighting games. Time for another company to try make a mortal kombat game, prefferably a japanese company.
I think we will still get continued support via balance patches. I also think that multiverse stories can be done good like everything everywhere all at once, and the impact comes from losing the versions of characters we know. MK1 failed though because they kept on changing concepts. First it was kronika helping shang and quan (this was my favorite concept because they could've made her into a thanos like character), then it turned out she was shang (this is okay but it should've stayed shang vs Liu kang), and then the multiverse which is really bad because they just shoehorned it in. I bet you I could make a better ending than that.
Man this game is 💩.. After you reach elder gd ain’t nothing left to do. The character designs suck, kameo system sucks, the roster unbalanced asl, and invasions is THE WORST online gaming mode I’ve ever played.. Let this 🚮 die and start from scratch with a new development team for MK2.💯
all I gotta say is that there’s a reason why the sales are lower than the last mk just saying. Whether the game was on sale or not. Also the fault on why the game is selling bad isn’t just wb its both nrs and wb. So it’s 50/50. Cause trust me wb has had there hands on some other games and those were selling like hot cakes we gotta stop tryna cope the wrong way and blame everyone but the Damien devs 😂
@@Zaire_39 sorry that mk11 doesn’t have gameplay where you can yolo a move out that’s -12 and make it plus or safe. or the fact that they branded the game having “breakable fatal blows” but you can have sektor and shoot a missle full screen and not only can you not combo break from it but it’s also safe and has armor.
@NickopzTV bro 1.3k players on steam is not good how does that make me a troll for pointing that out? Bro i know pro players and they know more aboout the game then you ever will they talk ti devs everyday... People pay is getting cut from that project...actually ill just unsub
@@PipeBombsdrop i did ....its because i have real knowledge about the situation. All i said was 1.3k isn't good on steam for ANY game how is that a troll comment. And people got their pay cut on that project and are beenin moved to different ones. And guess what a part of they reasoning was "not performing well on steam" Thats from a litteral dev. So how i became a troll idk but ill be a unsubbed troll. This guys content trash anyway
@@PipeBombsdropthey trully do, but steam can be used as a general idea still. Yeah, mk11 went to sale often after mk1 launch, but many players went back to mk11 after mk1 disaponting and lack of features and content, bad story, bad characters design, kameos, etc. He also said Steam players represent 1% of the player base. Did he pull this information out of his ass? I'd like to see the source of this.
@@NickopzTVI love mortal kombat just not the last few titles they are not entitled to our money mk1 was made by Ai there no way a human looked at mk1 tested and said yep best game ever 😂 if they don’t care on how the game is made for our enjoyment why should we hope next game salvage the damage the other two did 🫱🏽🫲🏾
“Now in case this…” everyone who defends the game is a shill. The game is dead. There are only 3 good characters and they don’t now how to balance. This is the last time I give NRS any money. You are on a competitive mindset. “Very disconnected from normal people” viewpoint in this vid.
You invalidated your point IMMEDIATELY with the shill comment. Wanna be taken seriously don't do that shit. Cut the ad hominem crap and focus on VALID points.
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People usually resort to the "this game is dead" argument when there's something specific, they don't like about the game, the meta is destroying them because they keep using low tier, or they weren't playing the game if the first place they just love the chaos.
I don't agree MK11 was more finished product than MK1.
Mk1 after 1 year still no lobby, can not select outfit, can not switch fighter between set in combat ligue etc...
You've shared some great points and its nice seeing other MK creators give genuine feedback on the game that is an honest view of criticism and pros. I also like seeing the engagement you have with your audience too.
I'm still learning more about your channel and I really enjoy what I see. Good stuff!
I appreciate you bringing up the point that MK11 sold so well because of Covid lockdowns, and it being cross-gen. It’s something that most content creators don’t bring up.
Nick, I agree with you, but the NRS community is the epitome of the saying "you can't make everyone happy" The community are bunch of ungrateful nitpicking complainers. They'll regret this later.
Its such a minor nitpic that I still can't make a player lobby with custom rules
Fans dont owe the devs ANYTHING - get that through your head. NRS is here to serve
Mk is stuck in a tug of war between casual and pro style players
You applaud to the genderbending Cyrax & Sektor and part of the so-called modern audience then you're part of the problem in gaming
In what way will we regret this later? Some people are nitpicking, but ungrateful? I need you to elaborate please.
Mortal Kombat 1’s gameplay is a fundamentally way better game than MK 11. That clunky breakaway krushing blow mess was sad af.
Yea its way more fun than Mortal Kombat 11
I would rather hard to blockables than random down 2 krushing blows anyday. The latter made we want to jump out a window everytime it happened...
Sounds like you were bad at MK11 LMAO
They were easy to get around, I Also won most of my matches without ever using FB, You're hella coping.
@@TommyFlipStix good for you dude. I’ve been a demi god/God for most of the life of both games. I was okay at MK11 and yeah better at MK1 because ive enjoyed putting more time into it.
Anyway, difficulty isn’t the point here. Kameos create a higher skill floor & ceiling than MK11. I think it would be silly for me to say people don’t like Kameos ONLY because they’re too ass at the game. MK11 just had ass mechanics.
@@TommyFlipStixbro didnt face a jade or sindel
I love the Kameo system. The kombo possibilities are awesome.
Exactly. When people say they ruined the game, I’m like the game will literally be just like MK11 if we didn’t have hella combo potential with the kameos. You can’t win with MK fans lol
Hot take lol but I agree
Finally someone who critiques but isn't just hating on MK. Comparing it to other fighters over and over again, when if you do the knowledge all fighters are not the same at all. Then you get into the main event the gameplay is hella fun. Perfect? Absolutely not. The kameo system is definitely radical, we all agree on this. Prior to MK1 hitting the scene we never expected to go assist based fighter, I'll give them that. That's one argument I can't win but that doesn't mean, the kameo system isn't interesting. It just wasn't fleshed out more due to time constraints. I've always felt, and still feel MK1 was originally supposed to be coming out for 2025. They rushed it out due to yeah WB, and said we will patch everything in later but that actually did more bad PR than good. Hence all the "MK1 is Dead" vids gaining much popularity. Back at launch in Sept 2023 we were missing features, it's better now yeah still missing online lobbies. Though hey improvents have been made but as they say first impressions are everlasting. As for the rest tbh we all have similar sentiments that timeline story stuff is a meme. Though yes as you pointed out, people do forget the criticisms. In 2030 watch how someone comes out with a YT vid. "I Was Wrong MK1 Was Lit Bruh". Heh.
Literally every time I see a vid titled “ mk1 dying or finally dead “ I just hit don’t recommend this channel cuz most them don’t even own the game let alone play it 😂
& im sorry but kameos are fire they make yu be more creative & 10 was scrubby asf 😂 but it was good tho 11 was trash
I agree with you. But I enjoyed x, 11 and 1. I enjoyed mk1 the most though. The down 1 not jailing into stand 1 drives me crazy in 11, and sometimes X just feels like wtf. But I still enjoy them all
THIS!!!! 1000 TIMES THIS!!!!! I AM SOOOO TEMPTED TO MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS LOL 🤣. I have a lot to say
Please do it. We need more RUclips creators pushing back against the Anti-MK1 meta that has been present since before it even came out.
@mrAPchem yo where can I reach you?
Regarding the beginning of the video, calling anyone a shill isn't really an argument genuine people make, it's just an insult made to discredit someone's opinions without presenting any evidence or making any arguments. Basically playground polemics a-la "you stink, so I'm right", childish stuff. So you didn't really need to mention it, imo.
At this rate, the term ‘shill’ is just a nicer way of saying *bootlicker* and the people who use it tend to be the very hating type.
Were people talking about mkx sales when at its time it was only next gen and the ps3 360 ports were cancelled
Say mortal kombat is dead= views
Say a game is woke trash= views
Thank you. I remember some fans getting uptight when I say Havik was never really that popular. Look at the 3d era, the only person that really made a huge dent was Kenshi. Why do you think they kept putting him in future installments.
Honestly, I don't care about another pack. I just wish they had more SKIN PACKS like MK11
only people with really short memory praises mk11 that much and acts like mk11 was that praised all day long. people fucking hated the game. it took a LONG time and a lot of changes to turn into a decent to good game
All.Of.This.
You didn't tell a single lie right there!
I know people who follow the competitive scene definitely know it's far from dead, when MK11 was launched, everyone was going back to hosting MKX & injustice tournaments because mk11 was too bad, now MK1 keeps everyone entertained & enjoyable to watch
As someone whos been a huge fan of mk and have played thousands of hours of all of them from mk9. What you said in this video is 90% correct.
Some of that remaining 10% is the following:
- MK community is pretty split on kameos overall, however it's true that casuals dont like them, and casuals make up for a huge part of the community (hence why 11 is cherished). But semi-compeititive to competitive players are about 50/50 on kameos from a gameplay perspective.
- If you ask anyone who's played every nrs era mk what the best/favorite was you said it's very likely they're gonna say mkx. I really believe the TRUE OGs of nrs mk would pick MK9 with X as a very solid and respectable second place. However, so many "og players" stopped playing when 11 dropped (cause it sucks) that most of the community today is made up from MK11 babies onwards, so many of them would pick MK11 as their favorite, but it's just because that was their first game and haven't played 9 or X.
- MK11 is also the highest selling mk to date in part because its the most casual/offline content rich mk to date, and also has the biggest hand holding trash player carrying mechanics of them all, so no wonder it appealed to so many casuls who bought the game
Overall pretty accurate video, you really know your stuff about nrs mk, which is rare to find
To be fair MK11 had 3 packs.
MK1 isn't dying, it has the best fighting of any other MK, MK11 did everything else better though. MK11s look, MK1s fighting, and ditch kameo system, would make the best MK of all time.
And just to add for argument sake, no you don't need Kameos in mk1, every character can do 3 combo strings with no kameo use.
Thank you for the Steam part. I think that's always a moot point to bring up.
*MOOT
Not "mute"😂
@@stryfetc1471 Thank you kindly for the correction.
Not only did MK11 come out on multiple different consoles, but it really caught traction because of the pandemic. The game was out for 6 months and then most people were to sit at home and get paid.
Has to be the stupidest argument ever considering there’s literally other games to play. People are acting like mk11 was the only game to play at the time lmao.
@@user-hh2vi8py3s people aren’t acting like that at all you little boy lmao
Fight Back Nick they trying to put nrs in a coffin ⚰️.
Mk1 is dead
Claiming the game is "officially" dead. Cause of an insider already breaks purpose of the official thing, can't say that it's not looking bad for MK1 but the game must be announced to not have any longer support by the devs as a final confirmation to official 100%.
Also a little mistake from you, MK11 had 3 fighter packs but they named the last one kombat pack 2 despite MK aftermath doing a character pack.
Both games are shit. Let’s call it what it is. Feel like mk11 was way more tolerable just cause the content was there from the jump.
@francix2000 Well, then I'm not technically wrong if it's still called kp2 loool. But still, I combined that statement with 2 years worth of kontent. And kp2 and aftermath only had 3 characters each. They were supposed to drop together but nrs split them up to keep the illusion of consistent content.
@user-hh2vi8py3s MK11 had better cuatomization and offline content but, competitevely speaking, i enjoy more MK1, game is obviously flawed but this ain't different from prev. Mk games, only offline the game doesn't have much, needs more than invasions and towers of time personally.
@@NickopzTV true, not sure that MK1 might have more support than 11 yet since this pack came a bit too early, i don't remember the lifespan of 11 but for sure, even after the end of support, r1ps arena tournaments were supporting it's competitive side for a year and more if i'm not wrong, so it's not gonna die like in a instant like no player, but nrs must do something to enjoy the game for those who play this.
@@francix2000 This is exactly my thought, the gameplay is hella good but lacks offline modes, that's why casuals are going back to Mk11, when i player Mk11 i never touched offline modes and i only played Online for like, 6 months, but with Mk1 i've been already playing this game since March of this year and i dont intend to finish, is so fun!!
Sorry bozo this game is buried I fear. No communication or updates about the cancellation rumor, selling the not even finished dlc pack for 60% off 2 months after release, recolored and reskinned outfits in the shop, no guest outfits, recycled invasions seasons, etc. WB already pulled Suicide Squads plug now it’s this game’s turn
Totally agree with you about MKX & to me that was the last great perfect classic Mortal Kombat game in my opinion.
Great video & you’ve got a new sub. 👍🏻
Honestly nickopz, i feel like even if u might be right about the lack of care of the majority for havik, its not the main issue. That writing was horrible. None of the things that make havik cool were there for titan havik, just ur typical bad villian. ironically extremely predictable for a "chaos" character. Even his "death" was odd for a character whos literal power is fucking regeneration. Plus the whole bs with multiverse and ironwoman cyber ninjas. And 50 dollars for an hour and a half of an atrocious story is too much to ask.
I dont think the problem is havik, they could have easily made him a super intresting villain and im sure it would have been accepted and sold well as is cause he does have a ton of layers/potential to him.
I think the poor sells was all of the things above. I think the havik thing is an extremely minor part of the problem.
The story was TERRIBLE. I agree 100 percent.
"I'm just going to call you Tom since I don't know your name".
Nick never fails to amuse me with that 😂😂😂. Of all the millions of names out there, he always defaults to Bill, Bob and Tom lol!
Facts bro!! F’kn preach!!!
You couldn't be more wrong, The numbers are dropping faster.
On top of it being a worse in almost every way possible, Especially the characters they're bringing back, The dlc is garbage bringing back the same overused boring as shit characters.
The Female playable roster is absolutely atrocious, It's actually pathetically laughable.
Not to mention the story was so bad I stopped halfway from laughing at how bad it was.
So glad I didn't pay for this hot garbage.
The characters they brought back are the same ones y’all cried to come back in the game 😂 not yu mad about females in a game like wtf 😳 yu don’t like women or sumn 🤔
@@GLOCKCHESTER131 nobody gives af about ashrah/nitara bruh. Nobody wants gender-bent Cyrax/Sektor ESPECIALLY when the originals are in the damn game! All kameo characters shouldve been playable characters. DLC is trash outside of Omni-man and Homelander. This roster is buns my guy...
@ boy yu really bent outta shape about gender bent characters yea I’m done talking to yu & they literally asked the community who they wanted to see so clearly those yu named are in the game for a reason like none of ur points are valid just a bunch of bs yu regurgitating from someone else
@@GLOCKCHESTER131 Gender bent characters are pure laziness, No excuses to not make a new character or bring an old one back.
There's no reason to change their gender whatsoever & is unnecessary like many other changes.
@@GLOCKCHESTER131 who are "they" and when did "they" ask the community who they wanted? Stop making up bs you see from reddit/youtube users to back up your shilling. Netherrealm NEVER asked anyone who they wanted in the game so stop the 🧢. All character polls were done by media outlets and out of all of the NONE OF THEM included NITARA, ASHRAH, or GENDER SWAPS. Literally nobody wanted that BS except lames like you. Make new female Lin Kuei if you wanna go that route but dont take beloved characters and swap their gender just for the sake of attempting to appeal to a certain demographic. I'm not surprised by your response though. I dont expect much intelligence from someone that struggles with spelling simple words like "You" 😅. Have a good day.
I wonder how you felt when ninja said MK11 is better than MK1
Mk1 is a victim of all these gen z complainers. We grow up with a casete game on a 90’s console we all happy with those shitty mortal Kombats back in the day. And NOW they are complaining? About what???? Mk1 is the best MORTAL KOMBAT Gameplay wise and STORY too. I’m sad asf if this game get canceled bc all this ppl that don’t even play the game “for real”. All these posers wanna be mk players with 0 fingers to press bottoms If u don’t like it. Don’t play it don’t talk about it.
Just let it be. Its over for Mk in general.
Swift, you are going to buy the next mk game lol. Just like 90 percent of the community. They literally always make 2 years worth of content. Nothing out of the norm is happening.
@@NickopzTVno one hates mk more than mk fans sadly…
@@badlandschugsnumber1fan123 honestly, this isnt exclusively a Mortal Kombat issue this is a video game issue. Really a community issue in general
I Hope MK is over, This shit is embarrassing, Didn't give them my money for this & never will again.
I swear to god bro. Big homie I get what you coming from. But you got to let it go. Other developers showing us on other games that you don’t have to re skin from lazy effort. Cohan the barb is literally azura like come on bro. They literally telling us we going to eat it up and buy it anyway. And we sick of it bro.
The community was pissed 11 got dropped when it did, they lied about how long they would support it and low and behold looks like theyre pulling the same shit, promising a long life cycle and aborting early to rush out an under baked sequel.
I would love to have a conversation with you if youre open to discussing mk because i disagree with you on some points and i think we could have a productive and interwsting talk cause im curious to pick your brain about some things
@thesaltmerchant4564 I already that said in the video lol. I said if you mad because Ed boon lied again I completely understand but that is the only thing I will budge on lol
Im mostly interested in talking about the game balance and general features more than player counts cause i think the game itself design ways is pretty poorly thought out.@NickopzTV
Mortal Kombat 1 is not dead but it definitely did its purpose. Like you’ve said before, they keep selling it, community keeps buying it… cycle continues. I personally liked MK11 more than 1 but not for gameplay reasons. MKX was accidental gold. They tried a lot of new stuff and like you’ve mentioned way back, it’s better to strengthen to weak usually than to weaken the strong. This is exactly why MKX was broken but loved beyond compare. 11 was very beautiful, amazing look to it and color scheme. Character designs had a huge upgrade from the gritty MKX. They took another giant risk with gameplay changes and they went in a way different direction in what I think was an attempt to “fix” what MKX did in fact do wrong. It overcorrected, diluted and for many, ruined what made the game fun. Their communication single handedly ruined that game for many, if they were straight up with the community we could have moved on at least earlier without fighting within. With that sour taste still in our mouths they chuck out MK1, an incomplete vastly complicated (compared to 11) buggy mess that lacked content. The issue to me boils down to them failing to recapture what they did in MKX which is ruining the competitive side me. For the casual side, there’s virtually no content outside of the same mid story mode that has terrible power scaling. The game isn’t dead but the game is not doing good either.
This video is beautiful. I love mk1 so much but it is not perfect. I loved the story but wish the multiverse wasn't in it. That was my main issue with the story. How are we supposed to explore this new era.. when other eras are clashing with it?
As far as the gameplay. I don't hate the kameo system. But I would not like to see it again in the future. It's unfair that Sonya, Frost, Sareena, Kano, Jax, and Tremor fans have to play a portion of their characters rather than just fully playing them.
Lastly thank you for this video. People COMPLAINED to hell and back about mk11. But then wanted to do a MJ spin and claim that mk11 is better than mk1... Nope I'm good. I've had more fun with mk1 than the entire life span of mk11.
MK1 is unfortunately garbage
Guest characters and other shit won't save MK1
MK11 was the beginning of NRS's downfall
I don't see this being alive past KP2
I don’t see the point of this video. I take issue with a number of statements. “Mk11 rode coattails of mkx.” Perhaps it’s simply a better product-read product and not game.
Lmao copuim.
it is out of the norm when the head of the game say one thing and the reality is other... the game for wb is a flop
Is more better to stop make story mode and focus only in gameplay, graphics, customization, towers and characters like that no more restriction for them about characters.
Several years does mean actual seven years, bro.
Bro fr
Hey man I just touched up on this and Jade's voice actress released a message you should check out if you haven't heard it already. I gave you a shout in my latest keep up the good work man!
1. I don't think pointing out that MK1 only launched on next-gen consoles is doing MK1 any favours, since the textures, graphics and animation quality from MK1 looks undoubtedly inferior to MK11. Definitely a "shot-themselves-in-the-foot" moment, because the game definitely could've been released on last gen. It did affect sales but the hubris is also the studios' fault.
2. I don't think anyone who has ever pointed out the steam numbers for MK1 and Mk11 have really made that point with the idea in mind that MK playerbase primarily resides on PC. I've always viewed it as more of a ratio sort've thing. If there are more players playing MK11 on PC, then it stands to reason that there are more players playing MK11 on console as compared to MK1. I think the drop in sales supports this idea and also overall que time to find games between the two titles but that could be anecdotal.
3. Comparing Fortnite to MK1 in terms of the way it handles microtransaction is an apples to oranges comparison. Fortnite is a free-to-play game where the privilege of playing without cost barrier to entry exists. For MK, depending on what edition you purchased, you may be $60, $70, $110, to $140 deep already. On top of that the only content the game contains is primarily online, and maybe a weeks worth of gameplay in invasions which everyone agrees is a slog to playthrough. I don't think its bad that people demand more quality for their dollar in a game that is already charging so much to provide so little. Unlike previous titles; skins aren't even bundled this time around. I.E. all the deception skins sold in a pack for maybe $5 like it used to be before in previous MK games. All klassic skins sold in a pack etc. Instead it's $5 for 6 palettes for 1 char, it is egregious. You are correct to say people don't have to buy them, but incorrect to say people should just say nothing about it just because you are vexxed to hear it. No one expressing their grievance's of the game should affect your enjoyability of the game if you truly enjoy it. I can think of a few games that are guilty pleasures that I can acknowledge really aren't that good, but its fine I'm a fan. But I have no delusions about it and I don't clash with people that do not like it because I can acknowledge when a critique is constructive.
4. MK and by extension NRS and WB studios aren't owed defense. Bottom line: these are companies that exist to make money, but the costs has to be worth the quality. And its no ones "privilege" to be able to play any of their games since none of them are free. People have the right to complain and demand better and point out bad practice. On the fault of the playerbase they should vote with their wallet. In the line up of sequential MK games, some of the games are more than a decade apart now so its hard to say it's the same people between each game always saying the previous was better than the present. This topic/idea has been explained to death though. All the MK games of the NRS era are unique from each other and share a small amount of legacy. Between MK9/MKX to MK11 and from MK11 to MK1, I think even outside of legacy changes, the overall quality [Cost to benefit ratio] is on a decline. In MK11 for most it excelled at everything outside of gameplay, and the gameplay had some good feats that were overshadowed by flaws. I.E. being able to flawless block to negate chip which has thankfully carried over to MK1. Believe it or not not all legacy games [game with > or = to 2 titles in a series] have this issue. Most good games don't divide their communities and have this sort've discourse be a *prominent* issue. I think the fact that this happens again and again is evidence enough that its an issue. Good games don't have these problems. Good games don't require massive efforts of community defense and convincing other people that what they just played is good or in a "good state". If it were, it'd be self-evident.
1. It means ALOT. From reading most of what you typed you remind me of my friend. He doesnt really do research and only goes off what hes seen personally. You need to look at how many people are still playing on old gen consoles.
2. Now true at all. Multiple sources has pointed it out comparing it like its a big deal because other fighting games are decently popular on stream unlike mk.
3. I agree, but people who spend money or games like fortnite, I can promise you, they will spend more in that game more than THEY EVER will in MK. I completely agree they are lackluster in the skins and monetization department but its not NRS fault. Its WB fault. You think those big corp executives care that it cant be compared to fortnite? NO. They see. HEY, these game are doing this why cant we? The customization system is actually a joke.
4. It is not that simple. NRS does not have control like WB does. Sources that leaked the information of the game being done have also said that NRS is really upset about this. But what can they do? Tell there boss no? NRS right now is on a crunch release schedule because all those other WB games failed.
100% correct fleja.
It's not dying It's dead!
I am one of those ppl that believed that troll Boon when he said "this would be the longest supported game in a long time." Ngl I feel robbed especially with the trash dlc choices.
Exactly say it louder for the people in the back
Who kares if mk1 is dying it can’t last forever just move on to the next mk
I can tell you did not watch the video.
Im my opinion my 10 was trash. Mk11 got me back into playing fighting games
11😂
Making this game a kameo-only game is what made it doomed from the start. That decision alone immediately alienates a huge audience. How is there not a 1v1 mode in a MK game. Kameos are gimmicky and feel like some random side mode.
Mortal kombat 1 was exposed 3 months into its life cycle on how garbage the game and how much of a mess it is. It was already dying after 6 months. NRS games die after 2 years. NRS cant make good fighting games. Time for another company to try make a mortal kombat game, prefferably a japanese company.
Wich mortal kombat was bad?
I wish this game was dead 😂
Mk1 gameplay is better the mk11 and that’s all mk1 is a unfinished product that is expensive for no reason mk1 is dead and over
Let it go yall boys it’s over looking forward to Mk2 or 12 or whatever they’ve got going on fingers crossed
MK is a trash series
I think we will still get continued support via balance patches. I also think that multiverse stories can be done good like everything everywhere all at once, and the impact comes from losing the versions of characters we know. MK1 failed though because they kept on changing concepts. First it was kronika helping shang and quan (this was my favorite concept because they could've made her into a thanos like character), then it turned out she was shang (this is okay but it should've stayed shang vs Liu kang), and then the multiverse which is really bad because they just shoehorned it in. I bet you I could make a better ending than that.
Mk1 still sucks
I mean a good amount of people do still play this game but im waiting for the next
The game barely came out come on man take a deep breath and enjoy what we have been waiting for 5 year 😂
Watched the video. Youre just coping dude.
I am really not. You don't know me lol
Dying nonono it's dead it's been dead for a long time
There was going to be a pack 3 in mk1 but due to low player bace and low sales of the dlc they called it they saw it was done
Man this game is 💩.. After you reach elder gd ain’t nothing left to do. The character designs suck, kameo system sucks, the roster unbalanced asl, and invasions is THE WORST online gaming mode I’ve ever played.. Let this 🚮 die and start from scratch with a new development team for MK2.💯
The roster is not mega unbalanced. The only broken character is havik. And maybe sindel tremor.
Everything else you said are reasonable complaints.
all I gotta say is that there’s a reason why the sales are lower than the last mk just saying. Whether the game was on sale or not.
Also the fault on why the game is selling bad isn’t just wb its both nrs and wb. So it’s 50/50. Cause trust me wb has had there hands on some other games and those were selling like hot cakes we gotta stop tryna cope the wrong way and blame everyone but the Damien devs 😂
@@user-hh2vi8py3s I talked about that in the video already. A whole segment was dedicated to that...
MK11 had amazing marketing. It had to because 11 is a horrid game & genuinely one of the worst fighting games ever made
@@Zaire_39 says this when jump force exists. I could go on but I think jump force is a perfect example.
@@Zaire_39 sorry that mk11 doesn’t have gameplay where you can yolo a move out that’s -12 and make it plus or safe. or the fact that they branded the game having “breakable fatal blows” but you can have sektor and shoot a missle full screen and not only can you not combo break from it but it’s also safe and has armor.
Idk bro they only have 1.3k players on steam
lol you are troll. I already talked about this in the video.
@NickopzTV bro 1.3k players on steam is not good how does that make me a troll for pointing that out?
Bro i know pro players and they know more aboout the game then you ever will they talk ti devs everyday...
People pay is getting cut from that project...actually ill just unsub
@@mkelleyaggie the consoles have the most players p brain, and if your unsubbing why not just unsubbed , why tell the world lol thats corny
@@PipeBombsdrop i did ....its because i have real knowledge about the situation. All i said was 1.3k isn't good on steam for ANY game how is that a troll comment.
And people got their pay cut on that project and are beenin moved to different ones. And guess what a part of they reasoning was "not performing well on steam"
Thats from a litteral dev. So how i became a troll idk but ill be a unsubbed troll. This guys content trash anyway
@@PipeBombsdropthey trully do, but steam can be used as a general idea still. Yeah, mk11 went to sale often after mk1 launch, but many players went back to mk11 after mk1 disaponting and lack of features and content, bad story, bad characters design, kameos, etc.
He also said Steam players represent 1% of the player base. Did he pull this information out of his ass? I'd like to see the source of this.
Mk1 is dead in its entirety the game has been absolute failure a flop and possibly the worst mk they made cope how ever you want but the is trash 🤣🤣🤣
@@yourstruly5180 it's dead because they are making content for 2 years only like they have done for the past 13 years? Ok.
@@NickopzTVI love mortal kombat just not the last few titles they are not entitled to our money mk1 was made by Ai there no way a human looked at mk1 tested and said yep best game ever 😂 if they don’t care on how the game is made for our enjoyment why should we hope next game salvage the damage the other two did 🫱🏽🫲🏾
@@NickopzTVit’s almost like they said they was gonna support this game for longer than 2 years but couldn’t because of how badly it did
@@dsmntle_they also said mk11 was gonna have long support. What happened then? It was successful as fuck too.
“Now in case this…” everyone who defends the game is a shill. The game is dead. There are only 3 good characters and they don’t now how to balance. This is the last time I give NRS any money. You are on a competitive mindset. “Very disconnected from normal people” viewpoint in this vid.
You invalidated your point IMMEDIATELY with the shill comment. Wanna be taken seriously don't do that shit. Cut the ad hominem crap and focus on VALID points.
They had the chance to make Havik a respectable character not just once, but twice now. In the comics pre mkx and now khaos reigns. Smh