As dope as that would be most of the original team isn't there anymore and a new Titanfall 3 will be nothing like the original 2 and then we have to worry about EA and there monetization and how they handle the game.
Not even to mention all the other gadgets pilots have access to. Wall hacks, grapple hooks, stim boosts, cloaking, holograms, hell phasing is busted in lore. And we aren't even bringing in titans to this, tone has a gun that fires 40mm tracking shells, legion has a mini gun, don't even get me started on all the fire with scorch or the ionized plasma with ion. When titans get brought into the mix and it's a fight between Spartans vs pilots and their titans, it's a fair fight. And before anyone mentions stuff like the pelican, tone counters that easy with tracking rockets
@@Pilot141 even if they don't, and it acts like it does in game, still an even matchup, an army of diverse pilots and their titans would be more than an even match to the semi standardized spartans
Bear in mind as well that any Titan will generally wipe the floor with any UNSC vehicle as well, especially the Mantis, which is also a mech but it’s really just a firing platform with legs.
@@egorex1834 try fighting off flying mechs with enough ordinance to make a rolling thunder look cute. And a fold weapon that just ruptures time and space to destabilise planets
@@Clarity2188 Actually the Unsc does, it's called the Nova bomb, just an absurdly high yield Nuclear Warhead. One was used to completely destroy the planet Minorca. An Earth-like planet. A second was detonated by the covenant while being researched on a space station between the planet Joyous Exultation and the planets moon, the moon was shattered and the planet had half of it completely scorched and all life was killed by the radiation. The covenant fleet was nearly annihilated and only the ships on the opposite side of the planet survived.
Consider the data knife, not that it can do much, but in the unlikely chance that a pilot can get behind the spartan they could stab the knife into the back of the spartan helmet
Yeah, and the aback of a Spartan helmet has an AI chip slot that looks like you could probably jam a data knife in if you tried. Wonder what the data knife’s autohack would do to MJOLNIR armor?
I agree wholeheartedly. IMC pilots aspirins have to survive the 98% fatality rate of titan pilot training. So pilots would make a perfect middle ground between odst and Spartans.
@@prince_jayleon17998% fatality rate is starting to sound very Warhammer 40k-ish. The Spartan 2 program was an extremely risky program, and there they had 33 out of 70 candidates survive the program without sever handicaps.
@@Paal2005 I'm pretty sure it was expanded on that the classes for IMC pilot training at training ground Whitehead had virtually no safeties in place for if anything went wrong, and were in fact intended to kill off the weak, leaving only around 40% of the trainings left, which would all fight to the death before the final surviving 2% earns their augments
@@twangypeppers4531Actually, they are strong enough. And any damage would be negligible. They can just phase shift out, and the nanites will repair all damage.
@@Kizen. and I'm pretty sure phase shift isn't readily available and is a gameplay mechanic because besides the mission where its an experimental device to assist pilots in the arcs time distortions. The only person who uses phase is ash.
@@twangypeppers4531 the device in that mission lets you time shift between past and future, phase shift lets the pilot jump to another dimension who only simulacrums or ronin can go without getting killed in the process
I agree with this for tf1 but Titanfall two the pilots are on a whole different level than the first game there are more mechanics better maneuverability and powers like phase shift and clones and the titans in titan fal two are war machines built specifically to fight heavily armoured targets and take down full space craft in short amounts of time Tldr: tf1 pilots are 40% win rate against Spartans TF2 pilots are much better and versatile with better weapons and powers while the titans are war machines instead of repurposed equipment
Imagine if you will, a match up versus a pilot with the time jumping watch from the titanfall 2 campaign. And while we're here, imagine Jack Cooper in the fight, constantly swapping BT-7274's kit, from Northstar to Legion, and from Scorch to Ronin. It would just be way too nice. Deadass hoping that they make a netflix titanfall series with the same perfect quality plot of titanfall 2, perhaps even following Jack Cooper as a grunt in the first episode and at the end it all goes to shit, and the final scene is the cockpit opening and a helmet rolling out to face the camera before the first episode ends. Can you tell I'm a big fan of titanfall? Btw you all should be too
@@oneyearunder I would love to see that When the servers for tf1 shutdown I almost cried and when TF2 got hacked I stopped playing games on the console I had it on for a while month
@@eillyouredead1865 fr, I stopped being able to play MP but at least I still got to rock out in Frontier Defense, but I feel like that doesn't work unless you do private lobbies
it like they are forgetting spartans augments for everything, from the capillaries to their dna structure, a 12 yr old easily wiped the floor with 3 odsts while figuring out his new strength, though they ARE talking about ANY spartan, not 117, which to be fair, titan fall has some pretty OP characters, dont discredit the type of enemies spartans have to face in the halo universe
@@theshanamasterSpartans have fought hand to hand with Hunters and won, but seem to lose against Brutes. Personally I thought Hunter were way stronger though. That being said, I see now world where a Spartan 2, 3, or 4 lose to a normal human, however elite. People seem to forget that every Spartan 2 also were literally the "one in a billion" candidate, selected by Halsey after genetically screening and years of observation. The 70 candidates were the 70 best humanity had to offer,,, before the augmentation and armor. No way in hell any non-augmented human could ever beat that. In the video he said pilots was built different, but for spartans, that is literal.
@@Paal2005while hunters may be stronger physically its also a pile of worms so its slower clunkier and dumber than a brute whos race pretty much lives for hand to hand combat
@@Paal2005Yea that’s a lot better than the 98% fail rate of regular infantry trying to become a pilot. If it was a gun fight or hand to hand I see Spartans winning. Pilot speed just won’t cut it, that is until their special abilities come into play. Stuff like time travel, casual dimension hopping on an insanely low cooldown, etc. Just the phase shift is enough to stop the Spartans because there is 0 counter play besides sniping at a distance and shooting them before they go back into phase shift. What can you do against someone who instantly appears next to you and phased a grenade into your abdomen
Titanfall has some wild lore, like that there may be technology used to download combat training and experience directly into pilots. Supposedly it's part of why there are no "green" pilots, even a newly minted pilot is a veteran with years of training, even if it is artificial. It also is implied they are modified to some extent to do the things they do, but it is very vague exactly what. The AI connection also dramatically changes them somehow.
Imagine growing up your entire life training and living for revenge on an alien cult, only to get deployed to a rebelling planet using farm equipment to take the planet from the local Navy stationed to maintain control. The last thing you see is some hick in an exoskeleton and jump jet bursting from a 10th story window to put an HEAT slug through your visor.
Well technically I don't think they're visors, I believe it was said that Halsey gave them that "Visor" to remind civilllians that theure still humans or something. Their actual vision is through cameras and sensors in the helmet if I'm remembering correctly.
@@magentawool2556 it’s a visor similar to ones on ODST gear, escept with a gold tint. It may even have the same polarization feature that ODST helmets are known to have.
@@notalexzander2 okay, a small correction. They WERE stated to be there to look less threatening to civilians, but it's also because "the hardest sensor to jam for our boots on the ground is the mark 1 eyeball."
Not gonna happen. Spartans have ridiculous reaction times, 300% greater than a normal humans. Spartans will see that coming. Not to mention Spartans have very strong energy shields.
The easy access to anti-armor weapons that Titanfall pilots have would give even an Astartes cause for concern, especially that SMR thing. It’s almost exactly the same thing as a bolter when you take it apart. Magnetized grenade launchers too, that one would be nasty as hell. I’d like to see a Dreadnought vs a Titan though, thatd be fucking badass.
WH40k is on a different power scale than anything human in Halo lore (comparable to forerunner tech), and probably in any realistic lore out there. They are fantasy on steroids.
Plus the EPG, Coldwar, L star, Archer rockets and much more. Arc grenades, satchel charges and thermite stars. Ticks. By the way I advise when it comes to a dreadnought vs a Titan you have to pick the kit carefully. Choose the wrong set up for the wrong Titan it's over like that.
That's cool until your hopping and a Superhuman with a railgun that has reaction times that are estimated to be around 20 miliseconds without armor enhancement to their reaction time down to 4 milliseconds or less sees you hopping from several miles way and puts a tungsten slug going Mach 43.6 in your back turning you into red mist or chunky salsa. Oh and that's without adrenaline giving the Spartans the ability to think, react and see things as if everything around them is simultaneously occurring at both a slow and rapid pace - a phenomenon dubbed "SPARTAN Time" by Kelly-087. Pretty much the bunny hopping thing is completely useless against something that can see them moving as if they are moving in slow motion , take careful aim and hit with pinpoint accuracy in less time than it takes for a Pilot to even react to the first movement of the Spartan.
@@Rat_Fบcker Spartans are canonically capable of just destroying armored vehicles with their fists. If a Spartan could rodeo they could rip the hatch off
only for the titans to dash back very fast scorch has his thermite flame shield legion has his power shot ronin has shift and sword to slice the spartan in half brute hammers can kill spartans imagine a sword 4 times the size of the hammer
Something I want to point out is that the alternator from TF2 is said to deliver 512j per bullet but a bullet with 686j cannot scratch the paint on spartan armor according to Fred-104.
yea that’s true. The outsides of spartans are pretty tough, what about the insides. Nothing but morals are gonna stop a pilot from phase shifting a grenade into a spartans stomach
Not trying to be a Spartan fan-boy but, even with the jump thrusters that titan pilots own, we gotta remember that they're limited in agility by how many Gs a normal human can take and their reflexes are nothing compared to a Spartan which could easily track them even while their jumping around. In conclusion, it'll take the titan pilot in a titan to kill a Spartan
Like I alluded to, Pilots are built different. The current consensus is through nanobots. I'd put them on par with a Spartan 4 outside of armor-enough to be more challenging than just a baseline human.
@@MarcusVance They'd definitely be more challenging than a normal human, but that's far from enough to deal with a Spartan imo. Chief has survived falling from orbit.
but like that’s cool and all but what counter play does a Spartan have against Phase Shift. In lore it’s the int of the most absurdly overpowered things a pilot can causally do on a whim. What can a Spartan do against someone who instantly disappears then reappears besides you and at the same time shifted a grenade into your stomach lining
Titanfall pilots have a form of active camoflauge, similar to some halo elites, who sometimes beat Spartans with just a plasma sword, whereas a pilot could sneak up and stick a plasgrenade to a Spartan without making all the noises an elite does
Halo 5 versions of spartans could possibly keep up with the Pilot's speed by outmaneuvering them with the Thruster pack which can boost a spartan in any lateral direction regardless of their orientation. While they could match the pure speed of a Pilot, they can use the thruster to make very tights near 90 degree turns and strafe that would mess up the Pilot's aim. Or at the very least thrust into an incoming pilot and probably splattering them.
1,000 lbs of armor plus Spartan super soldier at full speed with thrusters and jet pack at full power well that's like the human pilot being hit by a train car.
Yes quite a possiblity of an unexpected encounter and their interactions if you're talking about the version of EAs ( Fucking EA ) they stated that pilots of all are only mere human beings like akin to the ODSTs but it's a whole new different assessment of predicaments and rendering of chances when the version of TF community pilots enter in which I can only describe them as similar to the Warhammer 40k of Tempestus Scions ( mentally trained for suicidal ideation, tactics, since childhood ) while the rest are quite overwhelmingly of concept and abilities they can conjure surprising the Spartan 🤷♂️🤔.
@@PurpleBootyAss69 dude, punctuation. This is difficult to read. I do agree that the Pilot's various abilities could help even the playing field. The issues arise from the pilot's ability to pierce the shields and armor of a Spartan quicker than the spartan could react to the attack. The easiest method for Pilots to take when dealing with Spartans is to treat them as vehicles, in this case using the various anti titan weapons available to them. Although this would restrict Pilots to longer range engagements, lest they be killed by their own heavy weaponry at close range, a weakness the Spartans don't have. In longer range engagements the Pilots may have an advantage due to their speed and maneuverability across large areas. The Spartans have the advantage in close and mid range combat due to their active defenses and superior agility over shorter distances.
@@CountKibblesNBits dude I'm. just ,,,, getting to the point of the discussion dude I'm sorry. , if it's aploppy shit punctuationsdude.. I'm justusing the basics of the punctuations dude, !?..., Dude,.. considering the level of superior and advanced technological augmentation enhancements both super soldiers went undergo through spartans takes the highlight of this,...,,but, you're talking about the outer frontier baseline pilots during colonization era of the discovered planets and there were 2 different kind of pilots that was there during the happening of all before the Titanfall 1 occurrence 1.) Is by EA ( Fuck you EA givu us TF3 already ) they said pilots are only humans in which I completely detest the idea of theirs the other one is the augmented pilots in which is more superior than the Spartan 2 augmentation I might quite say ( without the mjolnir armor of course ) in which I'm the Titanfall 2 campaign in the part where Cpt. Tai Lastimosa injected cooper with an unknown syringe which is the Pilot Nanobots which cooper used to survive the planet Typhon that completely replaced the bones of cooper with a special interstellar material in which the IMC discovered ( by the humongous colossal asteroid that hit earth in 2100s )not far to our solar systems and some were found in the systems of frontier similarly akin to a carbon fiber ceramic coating but the Nanobots does it much more better they replaced the bones with actual metal carbon fiber like coating which can last to about 590+ years inside the pilot that can punch through 30 inches thick of pure tungsten and titanium wall, destroy infantry of 5,000 lbs of machines, decapitate a bloke with a single punch, a single swing of a strike of a hand that can cut clean through a human being in just a mere seconds, not to mention in halo fall of reach the animated film the scene after the augmentation of spartan 2s John 117 was hitting the gym then 3 ODSTs assaulted him and beat the shit out of single one and the last one he just punch the guy while he's still breathing and he's still alive while getting beaten up, not to say that spartan 2 augmentation were weak but only through the aid of mjolnir armor which they still had to stay at one stationary point to just beat the hell out of a tank just by punching in just an hour to finish it. And also their skin is not augmented and still just a flesh, meat, muscles etc only he bones, eyes, they're built to incapacitated insurrectionist and brought them to justice but the pilots they're the exact opposites of the Spartan 2 without armor. But the inner earth baseline system pilots where the main dish of pure meat to feast, and the IMC just cooked hard with pilots giving birth up to other 15 different super pilots one that I remember is that a Athenian pilot augmentations includes the replacements of their muscles with metallic like fluid rough concrete mesh like that one combo of solid and liquid substance when you punch it absorbed the impact of the force and when you touch it gently it's like a viscous dense fluid just like that I forgot the name, and their bones were augmented by titanium carbide drill coated, their brains are now a damn super computer putting up a fraction of 50% human brain 50% super quantum computer and their nerves are now a literal nano wires, and an experiment was conducted by shooting the Athenian pilot with a 120mm auto ballistic AA artillery cannon that travels in 400k ft/sq2, then a 75mm thermobombaric missile that flies in mach 45, and the cherry top of all is that they tried to shoot it with a laser core that generates 790 million of energy that can power one planet that travels in 4 billion miles/sq2 and none budges through it, and the point is pilots are just like Spartan 2s but without the mjolnir armor and without the feats the mjolnir armor gives and enhanced the user of the exo suit. If a pilot is armed and equipped with a power armor much greater than the Spartans it's an even fight plus with the weaponry pilots are equipped under their sleeves sorry for the punctuations dude , 👍
Wait till chief finds out about ronin... A 40 ton speed demon eith FTL abilities and a sword that can short every system of anything within a 40 foot circle of it.
@saturatedsausage7398 ion would be the ultimate game over for chief, I feel like. The spartan laser is enough to one-shot a spartan, and the ion chassis has a 5 second long, 10x wider version of the spartan laser attached to its chest. But the real kicker would if you could use the ARK. The ARK is alien technology that was designed to power the FOLD weapon. The FOLD weapon was meant to level something _much_ bigger than a planet, if I'm correct. JUST THE POWER SOURCE IS SO STRONG THAT IT RIPS TIME INTO SHREDS AROUND IT.
@@magentawool2556f we’re taking all weapons into account then might as well give master chief a forunner rifle that could vaporize targets completely in one shot. Not to mention master chief has beaten much more powerful enemies than titans, like promethean knights.
@@jr.smiththehennessygod2249 I ask you this, can chief beat a Norn Emissary Tyranid form that was designed to butcher, mutilate, annihilate, pesky annoying heroes in just under a mere milliseconds like the master chief himself? ( I wouldn't think Chief's luck would save him when he encounter one, and I wouldn't want to choose that ) or could he beat The badass Commander Farsight of the Tau empire equipped with his powerful battlesuit and armed with his dawnblade that can slice up a Astartes power armor in half and equipped with the high intensity plasma rifle that can destroy a asteroid size rock and turn it into lava in which the unsc doesn't fucking have in the first place Lmao 🤣 can he keep up with Farsight's speed, agility, reflexes, stealthiness? I don't think so he's not that lucky and powerful enough to do it or can he beat a Necron overlord that armed with a insane incomprehensible fucking technology the unsc doesn't have and can't comprehend it's advanceness like the lightning field which a spartan can't penetrate through, phase shifter in which a overlord can summon behind him and kill him off in an instant a resurrection orb in which all Necrons have and they can't die, veil of darkness a advanced type of cloak that a spartan can't picked up, the worst of them all the chronometron allows the overlord to manipulate it's space and time all around it, while the master chief is in time freeze the overlord can murder him without realizing it and etc or more humanely would he face off instead a Titan that was implanted, programed, with different Martial arts from around the globe including Eskrima, Muay Thai, Wing Chun, Silat ( Malaysian martial arts ) that can destroy a spartan 2 mjolnir armor in half like a egg cracking from the 100, 000 lbs of joules and force the Titan can conjure up in just one thrust , kick, swing and punch in just a second without the Spartan relying on its tech radar realizing before it was too late? Brother pick another competitor for the titan like a Sargeant rank pilot that can cut a Titans joints in half with a bare hands have a mercy to the poor spartan that you're bringing up.
@@PurpleBootyAss69 wow I really got you worked up there. I appreciate how much time you spent replying to me on a comment I completely forgot about, but I’ll tell you this, chief defeated the most powerful soldier from a race of aliens so advanced they would wipe wipe out the Imperium like they were a minor inconvenience and could stalemate all the factions in the war in heaven. Killing a titan is just another day for chief.
@@jr.smiththehennessygod2249 oh no not at all man I am totally asleep now This is just my cat replying to you now and I totally completely forgot about it too lol Now now hold up now, I said spartans not chief and his abominable last resort of plot armor that halo fanboys like us bring up to the discussion in hopes up to beat a more powerful opponent than chief Dude it doesn't matter if chief has plot armor when come facing off with the 2 anti plot armor hero opponents I have said a Norn Emissary Tyranid form would chew chief alive, a Necron overlord would pity chief for his insubordination of giving up because none of it, nor the weaponry, gadgets chief has wouldn't do shit about it, these 2 is beyond the comprehension of master chief Warhammer 40k universe is the embodiment of your beyond fucked to the core. And when you say about the powerful alien race that chief fights, like the didact basically a forerunner that can disintegrate chief with one thought but no because plot armor was put into here without it chief is done he's a goner bro. And I don't think he can also destroy a Necron celestial orrery a giant holographic map of the entire galaxy and when you touch a certain star system it would destroy itself completely, nor a Necron world engine in which it's impossible for chief to survive in it. And if chief encountered C'Tan the god of Necrons in the Warhammer 40k universe it's not going to be like the didact but instead a pure eternal torture for chief dreaming his worse nightmares coming through in his head. And not to mention that the imperium has got no chance in defeating him even the Ultramars And also he's fighting apologies for the word slow, clunky, enemies like other alien race that has no augmentation to counter off a Spartans attack if a spartan however fought powerful alien races like viltrumites, kryptonians, Petro sapiens, it's a fair fight although the ones that i said were more op than a spartan and not human. Brother I think you've mistaken titans for mechassualt mechas, Warhammer 40k dreadnoughts, slow, clankers low levels of agility reflexes you're treating titans wrong If a spartan face off a commander Farsight's battlesuit of speed, agility, reflexes, strength, versatility, who'd you think would win? Not chief of course without his plot armor and not to mention he's not the lucky one ( fun fact the lucky race in the halo universe is a mere ass human a damn marine, and his luck is more powerful than Chiefs no offense but it's the truth and I forgor his name apologies again ) nor the fastest, strongest, taller than everyone he's basically a combination of other members of the blue teams. I think if chief face off a titan he would have a hard time defeating it and not to mention the martial arts titans were armed with for hand to hand combat against other terrifying powerful titans, He would have at least received constant permanent spinal cord injury dislocation of nervous systems, rib cage fracture that spurt out of the mjolnir armor internal heavy damage and trauma on his vital organs, that were beyond therapy, recovery, hell even if a space marine caught those injuries they would treat it like a minor laceration wound of about 1 cm and yikes 😬 not a good day for a spartan when facing off titans that deliver a blow strike of 100, 000 lbs of joules and force by incorporating Muay Thai and it's not a big thing for a titan to destroy another opponent it's like another day for the titan commiting the incomprehensible acts of warcrimes 👍
Bro really just said "oh yeah the pilots have these extremely powerful handheld weapons, but we don't have to worry about those." A single archer missile and any spartan is dust.
Yeah if you can even hit a spartan. Any rocket or laser would be devastating for a spartan but hitting the target is the real problem, just saying that a weapon is capable of killing something so it would be game other when you haven’t taken other thins into account doesn’t make sense. Scarab laser could vaporize spartans, only if it its target, yet you never hear about Spartans getting hit by scarab lasers. Sure a pilot can kill a spartan but that doesn’t mean it will, Spartans are way more heavily augmented. Not mention a Spartan’s AI can easily hack a titan, after all they have hacked entire warships before.
@@jr.smiththehennessygod2249 bro, the archer's missiles lock on to the targets and guide themselves in. And somehow I feel like the two universes have such different systems, that hacking would be next to impossible.
Something that I’d like to take into consideration are Pilot abilities. The vast wealth of perks and abilities you have are insane as a pilot, and in lore, a pilot has access to all of them, not just one. Does that mean the Pilot will 100% take the win? No, it definitely depends on skill and discipline, but considering that a pilot theoretically could go blisteringly fast and pop anyone like a pimple using phase, I’d say they have some odds.
@@11facehugger two things I can name like one maybe two Spartans that were stabbed by cloaked elites two the energy sword exploits the Spartans energy weakness.
This is forgetting that quite a few of the post mkvi Mjolnir armor designs from Halo feature thrusters similar to the jump kits on the backs of the shoulders and calves. Rarely used in the earlier games, but they were strong enough to provide Fire Team Osiris reaction control maneuvering when the jumped out of the pelican class dropship at the start of Halo 5 and were the thing driving the slam and charge melee abilities that were new to that game.
@@nosidenoside2458 I'm guessing the 4s are the "Fisher Price" Spartans, but Halo Wars showed Spartans Jarome, Douglas, and Alice, all 2s, had thruster packs built into the armor sets that were designed thirty years before the events of Halo 1. They'd use them only to slow descent from orbit or to hop up to the equivalent of a second story roof, but they had the approximate power of the Titanfall jumpkits, but clearly not as many creative techniques had been developed around the system yet. Besides, the pilots from Titanfall might have each been given something similar to Spartan 1 augmentation procedures and the body suit parts might have included powered exo-skeleton features, like the jack suits from Edge of Tomorrow, making them like Sergeant-Major Avery Johnson, the black badass that was a fixture of the first three Halo games.
I remember when in old titanfall lore the pilots needed to go throw grueling training which has a 99% mortality rate, needed extensive surgeries and implants, and sometimes needed full body transfer into artificial bodies just to get their ridiculous abilities. Man I miss the old titanfall lore before the stupid fucking retcon
98% Dropout rate, and specifically at the gridiron facility for IMC pilots. The majority of pilots have much more lax training, and some are literal grunts just shoved into titan cockpits.
@@ajh3461 yeah, until EA fucking messed it all up just by saying that all the pilots are humans🤡 ( fuck you EA ) I mean just by watching the trailer of the multiplayer of Titanfall 2 there are many stuff going out in which a normal person can't perform like the multiple punch in the head assassination in which a augmented pilot only can perform that not a normal ass human 🤦♂️only us active Titanfall community can improve the Pilots feat of power and abilities if some of us are willing to do that🤷♂️.
the titans arent...well, they started out as farm equipment. if i remember right, the titans started out as modified farm equipment at first, and due to its effectiveness, it was adopted as proper military equipment and got the proper development into full-on combat mechs. its like comparing a technical to a humvee
A soldier who can wall-run for like twenty feet straight and then jump another ten, while carrying combat gear. Spartans are definitely stronger in a fistfight, but titanfall pilots have absolutely absurd mobility.
All I got to say is phase shift. One of the many abilities a pilot has (in lore they have all at the same time). Nothing is stopping a pilot from phase shifting into a Spartan or phase shifting a grenade into a spartan
There is no contest against the Spartan for the titanfall pilots at all. Spartans can be equally as acrobatic, and can react within fractions of a second. Sneaking up on someone only works if it’s possible, which you can’t really do against a Spartan so easily.
Spartans have radar, motion detectors, thermal vision enhancement, Infrared vision systems , Smart Scopes , etc. There is a reason their armor cost as much as a Cruiser. So yeah we both know sneaking only works when the armor doesn't see you coming lol.
@@John2r1how can the armor see someone in another dimension? Phase shifting is available to every pilot (in lore they can do all the abilities on demand at any time). Nothing is stopping a pilot from phase shifting a grenade into a Spartan stomach
energy weapons work good against energy shields but no so much against the plate armor or the undersuit. however the laser rifle and the sidewinder, and maybe the grenade launchers could be effective. however I think the radar iff system spartans have would negate the mobility advantage.
@@insomniagobrrr5542As are they in Halo lore. They seem to give plasma a realistic take on it's effectiveness. High yield plasma weapons melt away plate armor.
I'd imagine that a pilot would consider it to be a similar challenge to a reaper. Just faster and smarter without the rockets. Would I want to fight one in a small room or an open field? Nope. But if I have any sort of decent terrain then I can win 80-95 percent of the time. (I suspect I've got a 99+% rate on reapers in game) For a spartan image fighting spider man. Who happens to be carrying an LMG and a magnetic grenade launcher. Now if we throw titans into the mix try fighting thst same Spiderman and the hulkbuster.
Spartans would consider pilots as skirmishers hard to hit easy to kill Titans would be like hunters with extra steps hard but defeatable definitely hackable with smart ais
@@josephcasper8803except those hunters that you're referring to are made out of worms with an exposed parts on the back of their body and clearly the hunters are slow in agility makes them really vulnerable while the Titans are not made out of a fucking worms and have a better advanced metallic composite alloy in their armor ( not a titanium but a Sci-Fi dium metal ) and the titans would not go easily on defeat and they're swift in agility too and the only hackable A.I. that you're referring is cortana that was left on a covenant computer and got subjugated by the gravemind for a long period of time and You're forgetting that the A.I. of the titans aren't hackable they're protected by an advanced encryption codes even Cortana or any hackers of the unsc can't cracked it, so much so the Titanfall universe is set in the year 2700s which is 250+ years in advance while the halo human covenant war is set in 2500s and there's no proof of that occuring before kid again you're just being delusionaly retarded so yeah spiderman in hulkbuster will lift that W and go the Titanfall 2 campaign find out for yourself and you don't even know what you're talking about
Imagine being a farmer in a Titan and you look up to see the Unsc Eternity arriving. You tend to forget that Spartans are also pilots of any craft and any vehicle / Mech in the UNSC / ONI Arsenals. The Colossus Mechs in Halo Wars are canon. As are all of the other mechs and power armor suits. The HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark I [J] Armor Defense System, nicknamed the Green Machine. Is a production model of the Mark 1 Prototype seen in the Halo Legends : Prototype. So yeah Spartans have options in their arsenal as well. Oh and the aforementioned product mechs have shielding and modular weapons layouts with different weapons being fitted to mission parameters. If a Spartan needs a railgun and a plasma launcher they can have one. If a Spartan needs a teleportation device in their personal armor there's an attachment for that. Etc. If it exists in the extended Halo Lore the Spartans know how to use it. Stealth fighter with Nukes is also a yes. This is what most people who do these shorts don't realize. It's all canon unless 343 Industries saids other wise. This thing also exists www.halopedia.org/Quad_walker Along with the rest of the Mega blocks halo toys are replicas in canon. As in a Q&A edition of the Halo Bulletin, Frank O'Connor confirmed that REAP-X itself is canonical and that the vehicles were created in collaboration with 343 Industries; however, MEGA Brands were given considerable latitude in the vehicles' designs. O'Connor hinted that the vehicles also canonically exist, though not with the exaggerated aesthetic of the toys. So the Spartans have a walker Mech that dwarfs them by a few hundred feet that they can drop from orbit in like a drop pod, Its short-range boosters initiate upon entry, later becoming its four fully-articulable legs. And it has twin plasma cannons. Titans are about 20 feet tall. Slightly taller than the HRUNTING Mark III Cyclops. Which are like wise customizable. So it's not like a Spartan who can react unarmored in about 20 milliseconds and armored in about 4 milliseconds not counting for adrenaline in combat is going to stand there dumb founded at a 20 ft tall Mech when they walk by and use mechs that vary in height from 16 ft to 29.5ft al the way up to well over 100 ft tall mechs . www.halopedia.org/HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL_Mark_II_(D)_Geyrion#/media/File:Warhouse.jpg If you zoom in on the picture in the link the red thing at the foot of that mech which isn't even standing at full height is a Spartan in armor who is at minimum 7ft tall. Basically the Spartan would side step , climb up the mech or use his jet pack to get on the mech and rip the door off it's hinges after which it would be a very short close quarters fight. When the being your fighting can dodge bullets at point blank range and tear through tanks in melee if he or she gets on your Titan your screwed. Best way to deal with Spartans is to make a deal with the UEG which is the actual human government in Halo. Skip the fighting , skip the UNSC military and go straight to the government. They pull metaphorical chain and the Unsc backs off. Lol
Considering the additional maneuverability gen2 mjolnir has and all the hypothetical components of GEN3 Mjolnir I think that kind of bridges the gap between them. With the reaction time of a spartan they could probably grappleshot the pilots and pull them in an get an easy melee kill
@@egirlSkeletor spartans are able to use stimulants from their armor too. As for phase shifting yeah pilots have that advantage but that's still assuming they're gonna have the reaction time
@@egirlSkeletor you know Spartans have delt with cloaked elites many times Stim is like fighting a skirmisher And phase is like dealing with promethean knights
@@josephcasper8803Ayo a little bit late of a reply but I think I've gathered some Intel regarding on pilots using enhanced super formula due to the lore EA provides us with ( just wanted your thoughts and assessment on this lol ) 1.) EA version of pilots They stated that all pilots were just basically a mere ass humans like ODSTs per say and no wonder a spartan would easily beat one like an advanced type of insurrectionist, and they can only run up to 29 km/h surprising enemies camping inside a infrastructure with hard turns. 2.) Pilot version by the TF community They stated that pilots were augmented enhanced with Nanobots completely constricting their muscles in their whole body, organs, bones with they stated raw interstellar metallic material that was safe inside a pilot for a long period of years Which results in performing to completely punch a whole through a 5,000 lb of pure tungsten and titanium infantry regiment of heavy class droids. Decapitate a person with one punch, and swings of hands using advanced martial arts like Muay Thai, Brazilian jiujitsu, Wing Chun, Pencak Silat, Eskrima, that some can cut tear through a armor of an tank completely cutting off it's power And which they said is much more reliable than beating one to death while leaving your rear side defenseless from an incoming attack And they too said that pilots are more powerful than a spartan without their mjolnir armor due to the part in halo fall of reach the animated film where chief is beating a ODST and they're just incapacitated and still alive and if a pilot were ordered to incapacitate one they would do the exact opposite , but a warcrime instead. And I think when you said that the TF community version of pilots were just skirmishers you treat them like a dog running in a field but without their ridiculous jump kit plus stim extremely difficult hard to shoot at And phase shifting pilots wouldn't phase near the Spartans but instead inside them and exit before their armor fall on them ( although TF community version of pilots can lift up about 3 k lbs of weight both hands for a dependable period of time ) And also Spartan cloaking is akin similarly to the predator yautja cloak, a lore Wikipedia I read that spartan cloaking is still visible and can be seen by a normal persons eye so to saying unsc tech of cloaking is primitive whilst the covenant sangheili of cloak is superior Due to the covenant copying the technology of the forerunners a ripoff in short terms And I always saw your comments rooting for the Spartans admiring their mindset of a concluded act on how they solve problems and I also admire them for that but I think you need to reassure the both separate sides on their pros and cons on how they come up as equal powers with honorable intent, you'll never know that there are other super soldiers more powerful than a spartan and can get killed off pretty easily and not to mention not all Spartans are untouchables Dr. Halsey said this in fall of reach, when blue team got their first mission and sam not paying attention to his environments got him almost shot from the unforseen consequences, and on the first casualty of sam 034. And there's a dude here too also said that " not all Spartans are untouchables".
Ok so I do want to bring Spartans having insane armor and sheilds. As well as deal with enemies at in truth are far more maneuverable then a pilot. I really don't thing they stand any chance against a spartan. A spartan is capable of falling from orbit. The weapons they use are far bigger in terms of caliber and process information way faster.
Ok so in long range it depends on weaponry and a Spartan's knowledge of the enemy. Assuming the gun uses the same caliber as the real life one because I don't remember the in game cartridge, the Denel NTW-20 uses a 20mm cartridge with anti material capabilities. Joint shots on even a titan are not likely to go unnoticed, and a body or headshot on the pilot would do about what you'd expect out of a 20 or 14.5mm bullet going 820 or 1,000 m/s to do to a human body.
@@kennethfarquhar8938 for weapons pilots do carry anti titan weapons, and can use them on personnel. Gameplay wise considering a plasma grenade kills a spartan i think a direct epg probably could too, or a charge rifle which is just a spartan laser that charges faster.
@@kennethfarquhar8938 Truth is only select spartans have AIs in spartan 2s only the highest combat efficiency Spartans get an AI and cannonlly we only see Master Chief with an AI
@@theengineer2017Chief also only got his AI right before Halo 1. The Spartan combat effectiveness was in no way dependent on AI support. However, Spartans were among the most important weapon humanity had against the covenant. In a multi billion number war, it sure says a lot about the capability of 33 individuals (plus the spartan 3s, which is a few hundreds).
And much better than the mantis in multiple ways including that it does not have to be manually controlled, that it’s firepower and weapons are interchangeable without having to change practically the entire design, that it has more abilities and mobility, etc etc
Aight imma leave it just here. That "mantis" the unsc have is a walking platform with a load of arsenals that can trek all terrains and they lack agility and move slow just like the colossus for the most part and their greatest weakness is leaving it unattended you see the mantis is powered by manually means it needs to be controlled in the inside and it can't defend itself without a spartan or a pilot ( not a Titanfall pilot a normal mantis pilot or a marine ) manually operating it it would only be left vulnerable, while it's a big difference from the titan, the titans like ronin, monarch, Northstar ( even if he flies he's a light weight titan ) is the exact opposite from the mantis, it's equipped with an a.i. that's comprised of warfare tactics, military grade cyber hacking, and it's designed to have a insane busted maneuverability of agility on their body that they can dodge a missile warheads and can even catch and return it to sender with their vortex shields and they can exert out great powerful energy stored strength greater than the Spartans augmentations and exoskeleton armor produced while they spartans move fast in agility and strength in the normal human cqc and titans can run at a tremendous speed 3 times the speed of a warthog due to their size that they absorbed more energy.
Good points but you should've included the pilot abilities plus the hack cards since they have the ability to throw done Amp walls anti personal and anti titan turrets Amp there weapons phase in and out of reality
I feel like close quarters a pilot could just phase shift and telefrag a Spartan, no amount of durability could protect you from having your atoms exchanged for those in an alternate dimension.
I say the titan landing is close to ODST drop pods but way heavier since both drop from orbit or space. I say a spartan would die outright. Nuclear eject? Not too sure how if Spartans, at least to my knowledge, survived something akin to a nuke
@@soksockswell I think it has been already said there nuclear and to my general intuition to this is that the armor of the spartan will not be affected by the blast of the nuclear explosion but instead what the blast will affect on the certain body part of the spartan is the unprotected areas those are the lower parts the abdomen and the pelvis and upper leg parts sure the gel layer will take in effect but the explosion of the nuclear ejection doesn't work like from any common explosives like the grenades nor the blast of the rocket launchers and grenade launchers sending shockwaves but the shockwave of the nuclear explosion would penetrate through the gel layer on the unprotected parts of the spartan since the behavior of a nuclear atoms is unpredictably chaotic
As both a Titanfall and a Halo fan, I find myself agreeing to all of these statements. Just think of Titanfall Pilots as ODSTs that can move borderline like a Warframe and you get the idea.
Titanfall Pilots are all augmented. While I don't remember the specifics since it was so long ago, the general concensus was that Titanfall Pilots were generally a bit more powerful than Spartans if I remember correctly.
What the actual Fuck does that have to do with this? You think a spartan can fli a titan? what is this? You're treating titans as a mechassualt mecha that can never stand up again bro. You're demanding about the titans that can back flip kick a fucking spartan 15 miles across the field completely destroying and ragdolling it's corpse like a ballistic dummy getting hit by a F1 racing car. A tank with legs, arms that equipped with retractable 10 ft blades that can a starship in half, pierced through the supersonic speed and programmed & equipped with Kali, Muay Thai, Brazilian jiujitsu, Wing Chun, krav maga, sambo, pencak Silat, vale Tudo, lethwei, Linear Infighting Neural Override Engagement, MMA, Iaido, Kenjustu, and not to mention that eats 200,000,000 ft/sq2 projectile for breakfast, lunch, snack, dinner, dessert, mofo 🤣🤡.
Tbf, if we go by lore rather than games, spartans are also ridiculously manoeuvrable and have thruster packs. Not to mention they pretty much aimbot with their armour
I've had this conversation a lot with my friends and my brother and this is my conclusion: Spartans will win in an unarmed encounter. No question whatsoever. Spartans will also win regardless of (most) weapons in an open area arena where the pilot doesn't have anywhere to go, no cover to hide behind and nothing to utilize their mobility on. The pilot would win if they are equipped with a high impact, explosive or energy-type weapon. So that would mean a Kraber, any grenadier weapon aside from the SMR since it's literally just a slow firing explosive SMG, any designated titan weapon, or a mastiff since that gun busts through anything within range. It's literally just a breaching shotgun but anti personnel. The pilot would also win if there were a lot of walls and cover, like an urban area as your man said in the video. But if the Titan gets involved, it's not a question that the pilot would win in a 1v1. If a Spartan is not equipped with the right weapons or is completely unaware of the Titan's weaknesses, there's not a chance in hell they're winning. Especially against Scorch, Legion, Tone or Ronin. Scorch is just a menace to get close to and with his area attacks, he would make a Spartan comfortably edible in the time it takes for him to reload and realize the Spartan is dead already. Legion would gun the Spartan down before they'd be able to do anything, Tone would just blast that mf to next week, and it's obvious to any TF2 player as to why Ronin would win. For those that aren't a TF2 player, he has an enormous sword, can step into a parallel dimension, and send out an arc wave with enough voltage to instantly cook the insides of any unfortunate soul that just happens to be within his line of sight for longer than a second. If the Spartan is aware of the weaknesses found in a Titan, so the battery being the main one, or has a heavy weapon like a rocket launcher, it would even out the playing field hugely. All in all, it all depends on whose home field it's in and whose rules they're playing by. But at their peak, it would probably end in a draw or the Spartan winning but by a margin so thin that they would probably bleed out before help can get to them after the fight. Or the pilot winning and sustaining heavy mental injuries and probably losing their link to their Titan as a result. The Mjolnior armour is extremely advanced and tough and the Spartan itself is already a warcrime personified while a pilot, especially an SRS pilot is highly trained and skilful and probably has better equipment than the Spartan, and mobility would not be the only advantage they'd have, with a cloak ability which I think Spartans have too but I'm not sure since I don't play Halo, a stim ability that makes everything good better, a knife that one shots every infantry troop it hits and sends out a sonar, a decoy ability, the capability to step between freakin realities, and a barrier that makes guns hit harder, not mentioning the boosts. If I take every piece of base equipment however, I can confidently say that if the environment were to benefit both of them, the pilot would win. (Please don't hurt me Halo fans I'm just saying what I think based on what I've seen I'm genuinely scared please help me)
So I disagree because a pilots running speed is about 20km/h while an average spartan clocks in at 55km/h. Spartans have a speed advantage. Then theres the Spartans reaction time, the armors sensors and that pilot wont even know what hit him. That pilot thinks hes fast running on the wall with his kump jets but he dosen't know that the only reason a Spartan isn't wall running is because theres no wall strong enough. Spartans are faster, stronger and better trained. Spartans are used to fighting cloaked enemies so that wouldn't be a problem. A spartan would be suprised by a phasing pilot but as soon as that pilot comes out. Hes getting shot. Even with a titan in the mix the only time a titan will be able to aqquire a Spartan an engage if hes standing still or using something like the legion smart core (which I'm pretty sure is a gameplay mechanic), electric smoke and inferno sheild ronin would try to slash the spartan for the spartan to duck it and climb up the titan. A Spartan is not comparable to a pilot.
@@twangypeppers4531 Okay so first off, thank you for taking the time to read my essay, I wasn't sure if anyone would, and second off, those are some very good points, however, I do have some arguments to make. 1. Pilots do have a slow average of 20 km/h sprint speed however they can reach upwards of 100 km/h when a skilled pilot is brought in and knows how to use explosives to boost them. I don't really have anything to say about their reaction time as apparently pilots are just "well-trained grunts" however based on the feats we see them do it's possible that they have some level of enhancements, at least enough to be able to keep up with their speed. Stronger also does go to Spartans, but they're so heavy and strong that as you stated, they can't leverage their surroundings because they'd just break them. 2. Phase and cloak aren't the only tacticals pilots have access to, they also have a grapple hook, a stim that multiplies speed, strength and regenerative ability, a blockade that's able to withstand even titan weapons (though that probably won't help seeing as it's stationary), a clone maker and wallhacks, and going by what we've seen, pilots are not restricted to just one of these tactical abilities (see Lastimosa using a pulse blade, grapple and holo in quick succession) so the abilities of their gear is better. 3. Titan-wise, if they're an idiot and pick a bad titan for this, they're gonna lose. The Spartan is gonna get close, punch the cockpit and rip out the pilot. However, Smart Core Legion, Scorch, and Ronin would likely be able to either take the Spartan out before they get close enough to do that, or at the very least keep them at bay long enough for their other abilities to do that, such as how you mentioned the electric smoke. Also, how is a Spartan going to get close to a titan that can fly? A Spartan and Pilot are comparable however their circumstances and whether either of them are idiots will heavily determine the flow of the battle but in my humble opinion, with all the gear and the absolute highest level of expertise on both ends, a Pilot will probably come out on top albeit probably won't survive for much longer. This would probably go a slight bit more to their side if they're in an area such as the Rise map from TF2 where there's just as much wall in the air as there is ground. However on a small map, Spartans will probably come out on top by simply jumping as the pilot whizzes by and grabbing onto their leg. As I said, circumstances are a massive contributing factor but the amount of gear a pilot has with all their abilities, the Mjolnir armour doesn't have the same amount of abilities and while it gives a massive advantage with the abilities it does have, they don't have the same ability to adapt and fuck around with random bullshit as pilots.
@razvanmunteanu7195 the grenade boost was an interesting mechanic however it's a gameplay mechanic that only works in the gauntlet because you cant die. Maybe a fastball from a titan would get a pilot up to those speeds but that's not going to last. Plus theres excerpts from books where master chief slaps away missles launched from fighter jets, so I imagine a pilot wouldn't even want to close the distance if they knew what a spartan was capable of. Also a Spartan wouldn't just let ronin approach and if the ronin did get close it wouldn't be fast enough to hit the spartan. The northstar titan would pose a problem but it dosent seem likely that it could maintain flight forever and realistically a spartan wouldn't engage something they couldn't. Also spartans have armor abilities as well. From cloak, armor lock, dome sheild, jetpacks, thruster packs, decoys, and grapple. Theres a lot more but these would be the most combat effective. A shot from a distance with a kraber I imagine would take out an unsuspecting spartan but that's boring.
@@twangypeppers4531 You know you're the first person on this app I've actually had a debate with rather than a straight up argument, imma need to come back to this later. Thank you for being intelligent stranger.
@@skeptic192 if a pilot knew what a spartan was capable of he'd hop from rooftop to rooftop firing from above however another thing that poses a problem for a pilot skill and armor. Spartans are trained from the age of six so they're all great shooters. But can a pilot engage something moving fast is yet to be seen because aside from multipayer gameplay. The times we see pilots engaging enemy combatants is in really close range. So for the sake of fairness both are equally skilled. That still makes a pilot a glass cannon. A pilot is going to take a hit and keep fighting like a spartan might.
If both side have absolutely everything from their perspective universes that they could possibly use in mission, i give it to the spartans 7/10 times. If both side are forced to fight or die with no possibility to retreat then i give it to the spartans 9/10. The biggest advantage is the spartans reflexes and the leniency they have due to their armor and on board systems. Cloaking, bubble shield, jetpack, thruster packs, armor lock, sprint, evade, and enhanced optics all have titanfall equivalents and can all be used by the spartans without having to re equip. Spartans also have the use of heavy weapons like the railgun, srs99 stantion anti material rifle, spartan laser, and spanker missle launcher as well as access to c12 demo and cratering charges. All of that said pilots are no slouches either, however their armor outside of titans is not nearly as protective as the spartans. Titans are also an important factor, the firepower and armor they bring to the table can be a game changer and in the right circumstances brings the pilots a win, however the spartans heavy wepons should still be at least moderately effective against them. If they are not, the c12 charges should be but id drop probabilitys to 5/10. In an optimal environment like dense forests or urban sparal at street level without entering buildings pilots have a much better chance, about 5/10. In extreme cqc (in buildings were the mobility of the pilots is restricted or in huge open areas the spartans would likely win 8/10 times. In most cases id expect both sides to retreat and reassess if they find themselves in a greatly disadvantageous situation all other things being equal.
@@deathrex007 Chief is actually regarded as fairly average among the spartan 2 He’s not the biggest, strongest, fastest or even the best marksman The only thing special about him was his luck, at least according to Cortana
And also soloed? Soloed what the didact in which he cannot even kill in the first place? Chief is done when he runs out of ammo, whilst it's a gain for didact to turn him into an alphabet vegetable canned soup 😂.
@@josephcasper8803 yeah, Spartans are mobile, but in a urban environment, pilots thrive with their mobility. For example, look at the world record pilot gauntlet run. It's nuts.
I think spartans have thrusters at least, it's just they can only be used at will in halo 5 I mean, spartans are capable of latching onto vehicles and shoving grenades in them or just punching them until they explode. And i don't think titans have any armaments aside from their main guns (i've never played titanfall, only watched it)
Titanfall Pilots do revieve Regeneration from the Advocate. While the exact process is unknown it is stated to make Pilots stronger and faster at the cost of the memory of some of their fighting
Spartans gonna have a tough day agianst my legion Also yeah pilots have augmentations to account for the grapple hook that can tear your bones The stim that can tear your bone and And a normal knife That has a radar
Um you might want to go look up everything Spartans have ever used in the Halo series because Spartans have access to everything including ships with nukes. You can't really knife fight someone who pulls up in a Stealth Ship and drops a crap ton of nukes on you. Just saying research needed.
saw roanoke gaming talk bout this but he thinks the reason pilots can ko robot in one punch is because they have nanites in them that make their bones and muscles incredibly powerful
Simulacrum pilots like ash take the fucking cake on a spartan tho I mean most simulacrums are cheap metal various steels ETC. But a simulacrum like ash who is entirely titanium alloy and has swords as feet sheesh also the titan fal universe I believe is a lot closer than the halo universe in terms of time
But the only reason that works is because everything in 40k is ludicrously over powered, like take a spartan vs a space marine is easy for the marine outside of plot armor because it’s a literal 8 foot tall most of the time hundreds of years old ancient warrior with a BIG FUCKING GUN and lots of experience fighting eldrich horrors and orks
Depends on what Spartan we’re talking about. A Spartan 2 like master chief would probably beat a pilot and their titan with relative ease, since chief has faced much tougher opponents in the games and books.
Depending on the titan weapon for example legions smart core or inferno sheild. Any Spartan solos a pilot in a titan. A titan and a pilot might be tricky but I'd still have my money on the spartan.
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Think people forget spartan time. Think it was mentioned in one of the books. To spartans they're so focused and move fast everything slows down to them. Like bullet time kinda.
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As dope as that would be most of the original team isn't there anymore and a new Titanfall 3 will be nothing like the original 2 and then we have to worry about EA and there monetization and how they handle the game.
@@SHEEP_PRINCE_Gaming Ik, it's a damn shame.
@@SHEEP_PRINCE_Gaming Exactly, I want a fan game at this point. I don't trust EA to not absolutely butcher another franchise.
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Just imagine being a spartan and the guy who set the world record in the gauntlet comes flying at you at Mach 17 💀💀😭
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@@josephcasper8803 no
@@mrdooce4715 octan canonically has the fastest record
@@josephcasper8803 but wasn't it at the cost of y'know his legs?
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Not even to mention all the other gadgets pilots have access to. Wall hacks, grapple hooks, stim boosts, cloaking, holograms, hell phasing is busted in lore. And we aren't even bringing in titans to this, tone has a gun that fires 40mm tracking shells, legion has a mini gun, don't even get me started on all the fire with scorch or the ionized plasma with ion. When titans get brought into the mix and it's a fight between Spartans vs pilots and their titans, it's a fair fight.
And before anyone mentions stuff like the pelican, tone counters that easy with tracking rockets
And I’m pretty sure Moy para said that pilots in lore have most abilities with them, similar to the opening cinematic
You just made it into an interesting match and made me curious about playing Titan Fall
@@Mr.Neko013 titanfall2 has one of the best stories of all time, and the multiplayer is fantastic, nothing else quite like it
@@Pilot141 even if they don't, and it acts like it does in game, still an even matchup, an army of diverse pilots and their titans would be more than an even match to the semi standardized spartans
@@mrtrash4128 true
Bear in mind as well that any Titan will generally wipe the floor with any UNSC vehicle as well, especially the Mantis, which is also a mech but it’s really just a firing platform with legs.
Good thing the UNSC has the Colossus.
@@egorex1834 try fighting off flying mechs with enough ordinance to make a rolling thunder look cute. And a fold weapon that just ruptures time and space to destabilise planets
@@normallymute0131 Try fighting off a MAC blast and an Archer missile barrage. Then get blasted by a Nova Bomb. Fold Weapon ain't shit.
@@egorex1834 TF2 literally has a weapon that cracked a planet in half. UNSC ain't got shit on that
@@Clarity2188 Actually the Unsc does, it's called the Nova bomb, just an absurdly high yield Nuclear Warhead. One was used to completely destroy the planet Minorca. An Earth-like planet. A second was detonated by the covenant while being researched on a space station between the planet Joyous Exultation and the planets moon, the moon was shattered and the planet had half of it completely scorched and all life was killed by the radiation. The covenant fleet was nearly annihilated and only the ships on the opposite side of the planet survived.
"built different" is the best summary of Titanfall pilot augmentations known to man
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@@alduinfr Yeah I just think that the Combat Evolved armor is the coolest
@@halo_odst2616 because the halo ce armor is if not the legendary armor ( due to it's iconic design )
Consider the data knife, not that it can do much, but in the unlikely chance that a pilot can get behind the spartan they could stab the knife into the back of the spartan helmet
Yeah, and the aback of a Spartan helmet has an AI chip slot that looks like you could probably jam a data knife in if you tried. Wonder what the data knife’s autohack would do to MJOLNIR armor?
@@ItsJustVirgil this could happen easily with the use of cloak or phase
@@ItsJustVirgil kaboom? Or a seizure. Maybe a seizure.
@@NickAsNickName Like Cyberpunk
@@NickAsNickName Most certainly a seizure, or a suit lock down, you know where they just get frozen in place.
I like to think of the pilots being like extra cracked out ODSTs with the maneuverability of a wasp. So a good middle between Spartan/ODST.
I agree wholeheartedly. IMC pilots aspirins have to survive the 98% fatality rate of titan pilot training. So pilots would make a perfect middle ground between odst and Spartans.
You mean hopped up on so much meth that it can burn through the adderal Supply?
@@prince_jayleon17998% fatality rate is starting to sound very Warhammer 40k-ish. The Spartan 2 program was an extremely risky program, and there they had 33 out of 70 candidates survive the program without sever handicaps.
@@Paal2005 I'm pretty sure it was expanded on that the classes for IMC pilot training at training ground Whitehead had virtually no safeties in place for if anything went wrong, and were in fact intended to kill off the weak, leaving only around 40% of the trainings left, which would all fight to the death before the final surviving 2% earns their augments
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Imagine a spartan fighting a pilot, only for said pilot to phase shift finisher the spartan inside-out
And then hes stuck in the armor while it snaps his limbs because the pilots not strong enough.
@@twangypeppers4531Actually, they are strong enough. And any damage would be negligible. They can just phase shift out, and the nanites will repair all damage.
@@Kizen. the suit augments strength so much that normal people who try to move in Spartans armor turn into pretzels.
@@Kizen. and I'm pretty sure phase shift isn't readily available and is a gameplay mechanic because besides the mission where its an experimental device to assist pilots in the arcs time distortions. The only person who uses phase is ash.
@@twangypeppers4531 the device in that mission lets you time shift between past and future, phase shift lets the pilot jump to another dimension who only simulacrums or ronin can go without getting killed in the process
I agree with this for tf1 but Titanfall two the pilots are on a whole different level than the first game there are more mechanics better maneuverability and powers like phase shift and clones and the titans in titan fal two are war machines built specifically to fight heavily armoured targets and take down full space craft in short amounts of time
Tldr: tf1 pilots are 40% win rate against Spartans TF2 pilots are much better and versatile with better weapons and powers while the titans are war machines instead of repurposed equipment
Imagine if you will, a match up versus a pilot with the time jumping watch from the titanfall 2 campaign. And while we're here, imagine Jack Cooper in the fight, constantly swapping BT-7274's kit, from Northstar to Legion, and from Scorch to Ronin. It would just be way too nice. Deadass hoping that they make a netflix titanfall series with the same perfect quality plot of titanfall 2, perhaps even following Jack Cooper as a grunt in the first episode and at the end it all goes to shit, and the final scene is the cockpit opening and a helmet rolling out to face the camera before the first episode ends.
Can you tell I'm a big fan of titanfall?
Btw you all should be too
@@oneyearunder I would love to see that
When the servers for tf1 shutdown I almost cried and when TF2 got hacked I stopped playing games on the console I had it on for a while month
@@eillyouredead1865 fr, I stopped being able to play MP but at least I still got to rock out in Frontier Defense, but I feel like that doesn't work unless you do private lobbies
@@oneyearunder yeah I only play arena and frontier defense now maybe Ile see you in FD
Canonically Titanfall One pilots have been altered to be stronger
YES THAT IS THE MATCH I WANTED!
Imagine fighting an armored spartan weighing 1400lbs and he steps on your foot 💀
Pilot just grapples in like : "THIS. IS. TITANFALL"
Even in an urban environment, I would say that a spartan 2 would win more often than not.
it like they are forgetting spartans augments for everything, from the capillaries to their dna structure, a 12 yr old easily wiped the floor with 3 odsts while figuring out his new strength, though they ARE talking about ANY spartan, not 117, which to be fair, titan fall has some pretty OP characters, dont discredit the type of enemies spartans have to face in the halo universe
@@theshanamasterSpartans have fought hand to hand with Hunters and won, but seem to lose against Brutes. Personally I thought Hunter were way stronger though. That being said, I see now world where a Spartan 2, 3, or 4 lose to a normal human, however elite. People seem to forget that every Spartan 2 also were literally the "one in a billion" candidate, selected by Halsey after genetically screening and years of observation. The 70 candidates were the 70 best humanity had to offer,,, before the augmentation and armor. No way in hell any non-augmented human could ever beat that. In the video he said pilots was built different, but for spartans, that is literal.
@@Paal2005while hunters may be stronger physically its also a pile of worms so its slower clunkier and dumber than a brute whos race pretty much lives for hand to hand combat
@@Paal2005Yea that’s a lot better than the 98% fail rate of regular infantry trying to become a pilot. If it was a gun fight or hand to hand I see Spartans winning. Pilot speed just won’t cut it, that is until their special abilities come into play. Stuff like time travel, casual dimension hopping on an insanely low cooldown, etc. Just the phase shift is enough to stop the Spartans because there is 0 counter play besides sniping at a distance and shooting them before they go back into phase shift. What can you do against someone who instantly appears next to you and phased a grenade into your abdomen
The Charge Rifle could kill a Spartan.
Titanfall has some wild lore, like that there may be technology used to download combat training and experience directly into pilots. Supposedly it's part of why there are no "green" pilots, even a newly minted pilot is a veteran with years of training, even if it is artificial.
It also is implied they are modified to some extent to do the things they do, but it is very vague exactly what.
The AI connection also dramatically changes them somehow.
It depends on the matchup. Spartans have jet packs and other "special" abilities depending on the stage of whichever game
Imagine growing up your entire life training and living for revenge on an alien cult, only to get deployed to a rebelling planet using farm equipment to take the planet from the local Navy stationed to maintain control. The last thing you see is some hick in an exoskeleton and jump jet bursting from a 10th story window to put an HEAT slug through your visor.
Well technically I don't think they're visors, I believe it was said that Halsey gave them that "Visor" to remind civilllians that theure still humans or something. Their actual vision is through cameras and sensors in the helmet if I'm remembering correctly.
@@magentawool2556 it’s a visor similar to ones on ODST gear, escept with a gold tint. It may even have the same polarization feature that ODST helmets are known to have.
@@notalexzander2 it's not, actually. It was stated to only be there as a reminder that they're human so that civilians aren't scared of them.
@@notalexzander2 okay, a small correction. They WERE stated to be there to look less threatening to civilians, but it's also because "the hardest sensor to jam for our boots on the ground is the mark 1 eyeball."
Not gonna happen. Spartans have ridiculous reaction times, 300% greater than a normal humans. Spartans will see that coming. Not to mention Spartans have very strong energy shields.
Spartan: "Come get some."
Pilot: *zyoooooom*
I was afraid for a second that you were just gonna ignore the titans lmao 😂
"Stand by for titanfall"
Spartan: Guess i'll die
Smosh
*I need a weapon*
Scarabs are bigger than titans 😉
And some hunters are just as big as titans
"Guess ill die, but probably not today"
Ya know Spartans have taken out things worse than a titan, for a Spartan a titan would just be another walk in the park pretty much.
The easy access to anti-armor weapons that Titanfall pilots have would give even an Astartes cause for concern, especially that SMR thing. It’s almost exactly the same thing as a bolter when you take it apart. Magnetized grenade launchers too, that one would be nasty as hell.
I’d like to see a Dreadnought vs a Titan though, thatd be fucking badass.
WH40k is on a different power scale than anything human in Halo lore (comparable to forerunner tech), and probably in any realistic lore out there. They are fantasy on steroids.
Plus the EPG, Coldwar, L star, Archer rockets and much more. Arc grenades, satchel charges and thermite stars. Ticks. By the way I advise when it comes to a dreadnought vs a Titan you have to pick the kit carefully. Choose the wrong set up for the wrong Titan it's over like that.
God i am a menace in angel city, pilot nyooming around like a cat on drugs
Spartans also have jetpacks but pilots have TITANS
In halo 2, Chief out running an explosion was calced at 80 mph. In the lore it also says he can run 90mph with thrusters.
58 MPH, and he severely injured his ankle in the process.
@@yapflipthegrunt4687 well he was calced at 80 in halo 2
You forgot about pilot bunny hopping on non urban terrain.
That's cool until your hopping and a Superhuman with a railgun that has reaction times that are estimated to be around 20 miliseconds without armor enhancement to their reaction time down to 4 milliseconds or less sees you hopping from several miles way and puts a tungsten slug going Mach 43.6 in your back turning you into red mist or chunky salsa. Oh and that's without adrenaline giving the Spartans the ability to think, react and see things as if everything around them is simultaneously occurring at both a slow and rapid pace - a phenomenon dubbed "SPARTAN Time" by Kelly-087.
Pretty much the bunny hopping thing is completely useless against something that can see them moving as if they are moving in slow motion , take careful aim and hit with pinpoint accuracy in less time than it takes for a Pilot to even react to the first movement of the Spartan.
Spartans running up to titans to "Hold X to board"
I don't think they gonna fit in that normal human size cockpit though
@@Rat_Fบcker they could plant grenades, punch a hole in the cockpit, or just nab the battery though...
@@Rat_Fบcker Spartans are canonically capable of just destroying armored vehicles with their fists. If a Spartan could rodeo they could rip the hatch off
only for the titans to dash back very fast scorch has his thermite flame shield legion has his power shot ronin has shift and sword to slice the spartan in half brute hammers can kill spartans imagine a sword 4 times the size of the hammer
Honestly a spartan laser could probably take out a titan (though it would probably take the full charge)
Something I want to point out is that the alternator from TF2 is said to deliver 512j per bullet but a bullet with 686j cannot scratch the paint on spartan armor according to Fred-104.
yea that’s true. The outsides of spartans are pretty tough, what about the insides. Nothing but morals are gonna stop a pilot from phase shifting a grenade into a spartans stomach
the kraber is a thing
Not trying to be a Spartan fan-boy but, even with the jump thrusters that titan pilots own, we gotta remember that they're limited in agility by how many Gs a normal human can take and their reflexes are nothing compared to a Spartan which could easily track them even while their jumping around. In conclusion, it'll take the titan pilot in a titan to kill a Spartan
Like I alluded to, Pilots are built different. The current consensus is through nanobots. I'd put them on par with a Spartan 4 outside of armor-enough to be more challenging than just a baseline human.
@@MarcusVance They'd definitely be more challenging than a normal human, but that's far from enough to deal with a Spartan imo. Chief has survived falling from orbit.
@hobosorcerer Cheif is built different nothing could stop him
Spartan AI just hacks titan or even the pilot itself and its GG in favor of spartan
but like that’s cool and all but what counter play does a Spartan have against Phase Shift. In lore it’s the int of the most absurdly overpowered things a pilot can causally do on a whim. What can a Spartan do against someone who instantly disappears then reappears besides you and at the same time shifted a grenade into your stomach lining
Titanfall pilots have a form of active camoflauge, similar to some halo elites, who sometimes beat Spartans with just a plasma sword, whereas a pilot could sneak up and stick a plasgrenade to a Spartan without making all the noises an elite does
Halo 5 versions of spartans could possibly keep up with the Pilot's speed by outmaneuvering them with the Thruster pack which can boost a spartan in any lateral direction regardless of their orientation. While they could match the pure speed of a Pilot, they can use the thruster to make very tights near 90 degree turns and strafe that would mess up the Pilot's aim.
Or at the very least thrust into an incoming pilot and probably splattering them.
1,000 lbs of armor plus Spartan super soldier at full speed with thrusters and jet pack at full power well that's like the human pilot being hit by a train car.
Yes quite a possiblity of an unexpected encounter and their interactions if you're talking about the version of EAs ( Fucking EA ) they stated that pilots of all are only mere human beings like akin to the ODSTs but it's a whole new different assessment of predicaments and rendering of chances when the version of TF community pilots enter in which I can only describe them as similar to the Warhammer 40k of Tempestus Scions ( mentally trained for suicidal ideation, tactics, since childhood ) while the rest are quite overwhelmingly of concept and abilities they can conjure surprising the Spartan 🤷♂️🤔.
@@John2r1but you know pilots wouldn't let that slide well easily? If a spartan did that they just signed their own purgation contract form bruh.
@@PurpleBootyAss69 dude, punctuation. This is difficult to read.
I do agree that the Pilot's various abilities could help even the playing field. The issues arise from the pilot's ability to pierce the shields and armor of a Spartan quicker than the spartan could react to the attack. The easiest method for Pilots to take when dealing with Spartans is to treat them as vehicles, in this case using the various anti titan weapons available to them. Although this would restrict Pilots to longer range engagements, lest they be killed by their own heavy weaponry at close range, a weakness the Spartans don't have.
In longer range engagements the Pilots may have an advantage due to their speed and maneuverability across large areas. The Spartans have the advantage in close and mid range combat due to their active defenses and superior agility over shorter distances.
@@CountKibblesNBits dude I'm. just ,,,, getting to the point of the discussion dude I'm sorry. , if it's aploppy shit punctuationsdude.. I'm justusing the basics of the punctuations dude, !?...,
Dude,.. considering the level of superior and advanced technological augmentation enhancements both super soldiers went undergo through spartans takes the highlight of this,...,,but, you're talking about the outer frontier baseline pilots during colonization era of the discovered planets and there were 2 different kind of pilots that was there during the happening of all before the Titanfall 1 occurrence 1.) Is by EA ( Fuck you EA givu us TF3 already ) they said pilots are only humans in which I completely detest the idea of theirs the other one is the augmented pilots in which is more superior than the Spartan 2 augmentation I might quite say ( without the mjolnir armor of course ) in which I'm the Titanfall 2 campaign in the part where Cpt. Tai Lastimosa injected cooper with an unknown syringe which is the Pilot Nanobots which cooper used to survive the planet Typhon that completely replaced the bones of cooper with a special interstellar material in which the IMC discovered ( by the humongous colossal asteroid that hit earth in 2100s )not far to our solar systems and some were found in the systems of frontier similarly akin to a carbon fiber ceramic coating but the Nanobots does it much more better they replaced the bones with actual metal carbon fiber like coating which can last to about 590+ years inside the pilot that can punch through 30 inches thick of pure tungsten and titanium wall, destroy infantry of 5,000 lbs of machines, decapitate a bloke with a single punch, a single swing of a strike of a hand that can cut clean through a human being in just a mere seconds, not to mention in halo fall of reach the animated film the scene after the augmentation of spartan 2s John 117 was hitting the gym then 3 ODSTs assaulted him and beat the shit out of single one and the last one he just punch the guy while he's still breathing and he's still alive while getting beaten up, not to say that spartan 2 augmentation were weak but only through the aid of mjolnir armor which they still had to stay at one stationary point to just beat the hell out of a tank just by punching in just an hour to finish it. And also their skin is not augmented and still just a flesh, meat, muscles etc only he bones, eyes, they're built to incapacitated insurrectionist and brought them to justice but the pilots they're the exact opposites of the Spartan 2 without armor. But the inner earth baseline system pilots where the main dish of pure meat to feast, and the IMC just cooked hard with pilots giving birth up to other 15 different super pilots one that I remember is that a Athenian pilot augmentations includes the replacements of their muscles with metallic like fluid rough concrete mesh like that one combo of solid and liquid substance when you punch it absorbed the impact of the force and when you touch it gently it's like a viscous dense fluid just like that I forgot the name, and their bones were augmented by titanium carbide drill coated, their brains are now a damn super computer putting up a fraction of 50% human brain 50% super quantum computer and their nerves are now a literal nano wires, and an experiment was conducted by shooting the Athenian pilot with a 120mm auto ballistic AA artillery cannon that travels in 400k ft/sq2, then a 75mm thermobombaric missile that flies in mach 45, and the cherry top of all is that they tried to shoot it with a laser core that generates 790 million of energy that can power one planet that travels in 4 billion miles/sq2 and none budges through it, and the point is pilots are just like Spartan 2s but without the mjolnir armor and without the feats the mjolnir armor gives and enhanced the user of the exo suit. If a pilot is armed and equipped with a power armor much greater than the Spartans it's an even fight plus with the weaponry pilots are equipped under their sleeves sorry for the punctuations dude , 👍
So basically Titanfall is 40k Warhammer before the fall of civilization....
Could be 🤷♂️ I mean who knows
Wait till chief finds out about ronin...
A 40 ton speed demon eith FTL abilities and a sword that can short every system of anything within a 40 foot circle of it.
@saturatedsausage7398 ion would be the ultimate game over for chief, I feel like. The spartan laser is enough to one-shot a spartan, and the ion chassis has a 5 second long, 10x wider version of the spartan laser attached to its chest.
But the real kicker would if you could use the ARK. The ARK is alien technology that was designed to power the FOLD weapon. The FOLD weapon was meant to level something _much_ bigger than a planet, if I'm correct. JUST THE POWER SOURCE IS SO STRONG THAT IT RIPS TIME INTO SHREDS AROUND IT.
@@magentawool2556f we’re taking all weapons into account then might as well give master chief a forunner rifle that could vaporize targets completely in one shot. Not to mention master chief has beaten much more powerful enemies than titans, like promethean knights.
@@jr.smiththehennessygod2249 I ask you this, can chief beat a Norn Emissary Tyranid form that was designed to butcher, mutilate, annihilate, pesky annoying heroes in just under a mere milliseconds like the master chief himself? ( I wouldn't think Chief's luck would save him when he encounter one, and I wouldn't want to choose that ) or could he beat The badass Commander Farsight of the Tau empire equipped with his powerful battlesuit and armed with his dawnblade that can slice up a Astartes power armor in half and equipped with the high intensity plasma rifle that can destroy a asteroid size rock and turn it into lava in which the unsc doesn't fucking have in the first place Lmao 🤣 can he keep up with Farsight's speed, agility, reflexes, stealthiness? I don't think so he's not that lucky and powerful enough to do it or can he beat a Necron overlord that armed with a insane incomprehensible fucking technology the unsc doesn't have and can't comprehend it's advanceness like the lightning field which a spartan can't penetrate through, phase shifter in which a overlord can summon behind him and kill him off in an instant a resurrection orb in which all Necrons have and they can't die, veil of darkness a advanced type of cloak that a spartan can't picked up, the worst of them all the chronometron allows the overlord to manipulate it's space and time all around it, while the master chief is in time freeze the overlord can murder him without realizing it and etc or more humanely would he face off instead a Titan that was implanted, programed, with different Martial arts from around the globe including Eskrima, Muay Thai, Wing Chun, Silat ( Malaysian martial arts ) that can destroy a spartan 2 mjolnir armor in half like a egg cracking from the 100, 000 lbs of joules and force the Titan can conjure up in just one thrust , kick, swing and punch in just a second without the Spartan relying on its tech radar realizing before it was too late? Brother pick another competitor for the titan like a Sargeant rank pilot that can cut a Titans joints in half with a bare hands have a mercy to the poor spartan that you're bringing up.
@@PurpleBootyAss69 wow I really got you worked up there. I appreciate how much time you spent replying to me on a comment I completely forgot about, but I’ll tell you this, chief defeated the most powerful soldier from a race of aliens so advanced they would wipe wipe out the Imperium like they were a minor inconvenience and could stalemate all the factions in the war in heaven. Killing a titan is just another day for chief.
@@jr.smiththehennessygod2249 oh no not at all man I am totally asleep now
This is just my cat replying to you now and I totally completely forgot about it too lol
Now now hold up now, I said spartans not chief and his abominable last resort of plot armor that halo fanboys like us bring up to the discussion in hopes up to beat a more powerful opponent than chief
Dude it doesn't matter if chief has plot armor when come facing off with the 2 anti plot armor hero opponents I have said a Norn Emissary Tyranid form would chew chief alive, a Necron overlord would pity chief for his insubordination of giving up because none of it, nor the weaponry, gadgets chief has wouldn't do shit about it, these 2 is beyond the comprehension of master chief Warhammer 40k universe is the embodiment of your beyond fucked to the core.
And when you say about the powerful alien race that chief fights, like the didact basically a forerunner that can disintegrate chief with one thought but no because plot armor was put into here without it chief is done he's a goner bro.
And I don't think he can also destroy a Necron celestial orrery a giant holographic map of the entire galaxy and when you touch a certain star system it would destroy itself completely, nor a Necron world engine in which it's impossible for chief to survive in it.
And if chief encountered C'Tan the god of Necrons in the Warhammer 40k universe it's not going to be like the didact but instead a pure eternal torture for chief dreaming his worse nightmares coming through in his head.
And not to mention that the imperium has got no chance in defeating him even the Ultramars
And also he's fighting apologies for the word slow, clunky, enemies like other alien race that has no augmentation to counter off a Spartans attack if a spartan however fought powerful alien races like viltrumites, kryptonians, Petro sapiens, it's a fair fight although the ones that i said were more op than a spartan and not human.
Brother I think you've mistaken titans for mechassualt mechas, Warhammer 40k dreadnoughts, slow, clankers low levels of agility reflexes you're treating titans wrong
If a spartan face off a commander Farsight's battlesuit of speed, agility, reflexes, strength, versatility, who'd you think would win? Not chief of course without his plot armor and not to mention he's not the lucky one ( fun fact the lucky race in the halo universe is a mere ass human a damn marine, and his luck is more powerful than Chiefs no offense but it's the truth and I forgor his name apologies again ) nor the fastest, strongest, taller than everyone he's basically a combination of other members of the blue teams.
I think if chief face off a titan he would have a hard time defeating it and not to mention the martial arts titans were armed with for hand to hand combat against other terrifying powerful titans,
He would have at least received constant permanent spinal cord injury dislocation of nervous systems, rib cage fracture that spurt out of the mjolnir armor internal heavy damage and trauma on his vital organs, that were beyond therapy, recovery, hell even if a space marine caught those injuries they would treat it like a minor laceration wound of about 1 cm and yikes 😬 not a good day for a spartan when facing off titans that deliver a blow strike of 100, 000 lbs of joules and force by incorporating Muay Thai and it's not a big thing for a titan to destroy another opponent it's like another day for the titan commiting the incomprehensible acts of warcrimes 👍
Titanfall pilots are huge in numbers. Vs Spartans squad. But depends how they encounter each other
the improved gen2 in Halo 5 had integrated thrusters in the armor which allowed Spartans for much more speed and mobility
Gen 3 had grapples
Bro really just said "oh yeah the pilots have these extremely powerful handheld weapons, but we don't have to worry about those." A single archer missile and any spartan is dust.
Yes the pilots also have extremely powerful handheld weapons
@Saturated sausage they also have the knife that can hack stuff as long as it has a port like spartan helmets
Yeah if you can even hit a spartan. Any rocket or laser would be devastating for a spartan but hitting the target is the real problem, just saying that a weapon is capable of killing something so it would be game other when you haven’t taken other thins into account doesn’t make sense. Scarab laser could vaporize spartans, only if it its target, yet you never hear about Spartans getting hit by scarab lasers. Sure a pilot can kill a spartan but that doesn’t mean it will, Spartans are way more heavily augmented. Not mention a Spartan’s AI can easily hack a titan, after all they have hacked entire warships before.
@@jr.smiththehennessygod2249 bro, the archer's missiles lock on to the targets and guide themselves in. And somehow I feel like the two universes have such different systems, that hacking would be next to impossible.
Something that I’d like to take into consideration are Pilot abilities. The vast wealth of perks and abilities you have are insane as a pilot, and in lore, a pilot has access to all of them, not just one.
Does that mean the Pilot will 100% take the win? No, it definitely depends on skill and discipline, but considering that a pilot theoretically could go blisteringly fast and pop anyone like a pimple using phase, I’d say they have some odds.
The only one I see giving pilots the edge is phase. A Spartan could handle anything else
@@twangypeppers4531 Seeing that Spartans get btfo by elites with camo in lore pretty often, I dunno about that
@@11facehugger yeah because it's a perfect cloak you can still see pilots jump kits
@@twangypeppers4531 It's.. not a perfect cloak in the slightest sense, they usually just get stabbed from behind either way.
@@11facehugger two things I can name like one maybe two Spartans that were stabbed by cloaked elites two the energy sword exploits the Spartans energy weakness.
I imagine it’d be like fighting the locusts aliens in Halo 2 on legendary. Pain in the ass to hit and they do a lot of damage
@@silasstryder you mean the drones? Or what i don't remember any locusts in the game, it's already a year since I played halo 2
Everybody gangsta till they grab the aimbot pistol
Exactly try dodging a aimbot pistol
Which wouldn't do anything to a spartan
This is forgetting that quite a few of the post mkvi Mjolnir armor designs from Halo feature thrusters similar to the jump kits on the backs of the shoulders and calves. Rarely used in the earlier games, but they were strong enough to provide Fire Team Osiris reaction control maneuvering when the jumped out of the pelican class dropship at the start of Halo 5 and were the thing driving the slam and charge melee abilities that were new to that game.
They are a great addition to the kit, however Pilots still do far more with theirs. Even more than in the Guardians trailer.
also the fact than the Fisher Price Spartans have those, the real ones (gen 2s & 3s)don't or at least didn't they might get them
@@nosidenoside2458 I'm guessing the 4s are the "Fisher Price" Spartans, but Halo Wars showed Spartans Jarome, Douglas, and Alice, all 2s, had thruster packs built into the armor sets that were designed thirty years before the events of Halo 1. They'd use them only to slow descent from orbit or to hop up to the equivalent of a second story roof, but they had the approximate power of the Titanfall jumpkits, but clearly not as many creative techniques had been developed around the system yet. Besides, the pilots from Titanfall might have each been given something similar to Spartan 1 augmentation procedures and the body suit parts might have included powered exo-skeleton features, like the jack suits from Edge of Tomorrow, making them like Sergeant-Major Avery Johnson, the black badass that was a fixture of the first three Halo games.
I need More Titanfall compared to other sci-fi
I remember when in old titanfall lore the pilots needed to go throw grueling training which has a 99% mortality rate, needed extensive surgeries and implants, and sometimes needed full body transfer into artificial bodies just to get their ridiculous abilities. Man I miss the old titanfall lore before the stupid fucking retcon
98% Dropout rate, and specifically at the gridiron facility for IMC pilots. The majority of pilots have much more lax training, and some are literal grunts just shoved into titan cockpits.
@@ajh3461 yeah, until EA fucking messed it all up just by saying that all the pilots are humans🤡 ( fuck you EA ) I mean just by watching the trailer of the multiplayer of Titanfall 2 there are many stuff going out in which a normal person can't perform like the multiple punch in the head assassination in which a augmented pilot only can perform that not a normal ass human 🤦♂️only us active Titanfall community can improve the Pilots feat of power and abilities if some of us are willing to do that🤷♂️.
Are we talking boom Spartans cuz they are fast as fuck in the books
the titans arent...well, they started out as farm equipment. if i remember right, the titans started out as modified farm equipment at first, and due to its effectiveness, it was adopted as proper military equipment and got the proper development into full-on combat mechs. its like comparing a technical to a humvee
A pilot is just a soldier until the titans start falling.
A soldier who can wall-run for like twenty feet straight and then jump another ten, while carrying combat gear. Spartans are definitely stronger in a fistfight, but titanfall pilots have absolutely absurd mobility.
@@peterahl6807 absolutely
And they are masters for surviving for themselves and like the opening cutscene said just one Pilot can change the battle to your favor
All I got to say is phase shift. One of the many abilities a pilot has (in lore they have all at the same time). Nothing is stopping a pilot from phase shifting into a Spartan or phase shifting a grenade into a spartan
Ah yes, the farm tractor that could destroy an entire US platoon and armored division (probably)
@saturatedsausage7398Considering that it both has an energy shield and can survive a drop from orbit? Most likely
Omg no way! I've been waiting for a video on titanfall pilots 😃
There is no contest against the Spartan for the titanfall pilots at all. Spartans can be equally as acrobatic, and can react within fractions of a second. Sneaking up on someone only works if it’s possible, which you can’t really do against a Spartan so easily.
Spartans have radar, motion detectors, thermal vision enhancement, Infrared vision systems , Smart Scopes , etc. There is a reason their armor cost as much as a Cruiser. So yeah we both know sneaking only works when the armor doesn't see you coming lol.
@@John2r1how can the armor see someone in another dimension? Phase shifting is available to every pilot (in lore they can do all the abilities on demand at any time). Nothing is stopping a pilot from phase shifting a grenade into a Spartan stomach
energy weapons work good against energy shields but no so much against the plate armor or the undersuit. however the laser rifle and the sidewinder, and maybe the grenade launchers could be effective. however I think the radar iff system spartans have would negate the mobility advantage.
Titanfall energy weapons are equally effective against both.
@@insomniagobrrr5542As are they in Halo lore. They seem to give plasma a realistic take on it's effectiveness. High yield plasma weapons melt away plate armor.
"Halo Spartan vs Titanfall Pilots"
Shows image of ODST fireteam
I'd imagine that a pilot would consider it to be a similar challenge to a reaper. Just faster and smarter without the rockets.
Would I want to fight one in a small room or an open field? Nope.
But if I have any sort of decent terrain then I can win 80-95 percent of the time.
(I suspect I've got a 99+% rate on reapers in game)
For a spartan image fighting spider man. Who happens to be carrying an LMG and a magnetic grenade launcher.
Now if we throw titans into the mix try fighting thst same Spiderman and the hulkbuster.
Spartans would consider pilots as skirmishers hard to hit easy to kill
Titans would be like hunters with extra steps hard but defeatable definitely hackable with smart ais
@@josephcasper8803except those hunters that you're referring to are made out of worms with an exposed parts on the back of their body and clearly the hunters are slow in agility makes them really vulnerable while the Titans are not made out of a fucking worms and have a better advanced metallic composite alloy in their armor ( not a titanium but a Sci-Fi dium metal ) and the titans would not go easily on defeat and they're swift in agility too and the only hackable A.I. that you're referring is cortana that was left on a covenant computer and got subjugated by the gravemind for a long period of time and You're forgetting that the A.I. of the titans aren't hackable they're protected by an advanced encryption codes even Cortana or any hackers of the unsc can't cracked it, so much so the Titanfall universe is set in the year 2700s which is 250+ years in advance while the halo human covenant war is set in 2500s and there's no proof of that occuring before kid again you're just being delusionaly retarded so yeah spiderman in hulkbuster will lift that W and go the Titanfall 2 campaign find out for yourself and you don't even know what you're talking about
Imagine being an elite spartan just to get killed by a farmer in a titan.
Imagine being a farmer in a Titan and you look up to see the Unsc Eternity arriving.
You tend to forget that Spartans are also pilots of any craft and any vehicle / Mech in the UNSC / ONI Arsenals.
The Colossus Mechs in Halo Wars are canon. As are all of the other mechs and power armor suits. The HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark I [J] Armor Defense System, nicknamed the Green Machine.
Is a production model of the Mark 1 Prototype seen in the Halo Legends : Prototype.
So yeah Spartans have options in their arsenal as well.
Oh and the aforementioned product mechs have shielding and modular weapons layouts with different weapons being fitted to mission parameters.
If a Spartan needs a railgun and a plasma launcher they can have one. If a Spartan needs a teleportation device in their personal armor there's an attachment for that. Etc.
If it exists in the extended Halo Lore the Spartans know how to use it.
Stealth fighter with Nukes is also a yes.
This is what most people who do these shorts don't realize. It's all canon unless 343 Industries saids other wise.
This thing also exists www.halopedia.org/Quad_walker
Along with the rest of the Mega blocks halo toys are replicas in canon. As in a Q&A edition of the Halo Bulletin, Frank O'Connor confirmed that REAP-X itself is canonical and that the vehicles were created in collaboration with 343 Industries; however, MEGA Brands were given considerable latitude in the vehicles' designs. O'Connor hinted that the vehicles also canonically exist, though not with the exaggerated aesthetic of the toys.
So the Spartans have a walker Mech that dwarfs them by a few hundred feet that they can drop from orbit in like a drop pod, Its short-range boosters initiate upon entry, later becoming its four fully-articulable legs. And it has twin plasma cannons.
Titans are about 20 feet tall.
Slightly taller than the HRUNTING Mark III Cyclops. Which are like wise customizable.
So it's not like a Spartan who can react unarmored in about 20 milliseconds and armored in about 4 milliseconds not counting for adrenaline in combat is going to stand there dumb founded at a 20 ft tall Mech when they walk by and use mechs that vary in height from 16 ft to 29.5ft al the way up to well over 100 ft tall mechs .
www.halopedia.org/HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL_Mark_II_(D)_Geyrion#/media/File:Warhouse.jpg
If you zoom in on the picture in the link the red thing at the foot of that mech which isn't even standing at full height is a Spartan in armor who is at minimum 7ft tall.
Basically the Spartan would side step , climb up the mech or use his jet pack to get on the mech and rip the door off it's hinges after which it would be a very short close quarters fight. When the being your fighting can dodge bullets at point blank range and tear through tanks in melee if he or she gets on your Titan your screwed. Best way to deal with Spartans is to make a deal with the UEG which is the actual human government in Halo.
Skip the fighting , skip the UNSC military and go straight to the government. They pull metaphorical chain and the Unsc backs off. Lol
But once you take into account the grappling hook from Halo infinite it's a whole nother ball game
Nice to see someone addressing the fact that the titans were originally used as farm equipment before warfare
Considering the additional maneuverability gen2 mjolnir has and all the hypothetical components of GEN3 Mjolnir I think that kind of bridges the gap between them. With the reaction time of a spartan they could probably grappleshot the pilots and pull them in an get an easy melee kill
assuming the pilot doesnt cloak or phase shift or stim.
@@egirlSkeletor spartans are able to use stimulants from their armor too. As for phase shifting yeah pilots have that advantage but that's still assuming they're gonna have the reaction time
@@alphacraig4784 spartan stim is incredibly different from tha bonkers shit pilot stim does.
@@egirlSkeletor you know Spartans have delt with cloaked elites many times
Stim is like fighting a skirmisher
And phase is like dealing with promethean knights
@@josephcasper8803Ayo a little bit late of a reply but I think I've gathered some Intel regarding on pilots using enhanced super formula due to the lore EA provides us with ( just wanted your thoughts and assessment on this lol )
1.) EA version of pilots
They stated that all pilots were just basically a mere ass humans like ODSTs per say and no wonder a spartan would easily beat one like an advanced type of insurrectionist, and they can only run up to 29 km/h surprising enemies camping inside a infrastructure with hard turns.
2.) Pilot version by the TF community
They stated that pilots were augmented enhanced with Nanobots completely constricting their muscles in their whole body, organs, bones with they stated raw interstellar metallic material that was safe inside a pilot for a long period of years
Which results in performing to completely punch a whole through a 5,000 lb of pure tungsten and titanium infantry regiment of heavy class droids.
Decapitate a person with one punch, and swings of hands using advanced martial arts like Muay Thai, Brazilian jiujitsu, Wing Chun, Pencak Silat, Eskrima, that some can cut tear through a armor of an tank completely cutting off it's power
And which they said is much more reliable than beating one to death while leaving your rear side defenseless from an incoming attack
And they too said that pilots are more powerful than a spartan without their mjolnir armor due to the part in halo fall of reach the animated film where chief is beating a ODST and they're just incapacitated and still alive and if a pilot were ordered to incapacitate one they would do the exact opposite , but a warcrime instead.
And I think when you said that the TF community version of pilots were just skirmishers you treat them like a dog running in a field but without their ridiculous jump kit plus stim extremely difficult hard to shoot at
And phase shifting pilots wouldn't phase near the Spartans but instead inside them and exit before their armor fall on them ( although TF community version of pilots can lift up about 3 k lbs of weight both hands for a dependable period of time )
And also Spartan cloaking is akin similarly to the predator yautja cloak, a lore Wikipedia I read that spartan cloaking is still visible and can be seen by a normal persons eye so to saying unsc tech of cloaking is primitive whilst the covenant sangheili of cloak is superior
Due to the covenant copying the technology of the forerunners a ripoff in short terms
And I always saw your comments rooting for the Spartans admiring their mindset of a concluded act on how they solve problems and I also admire them for that but I think you need to reassure the both separate sides on their pros and cons on how they come up as equal powers with honorable intent, you'll never know that there are other super soldiers more powerful than a spartan and can get killed off pretty easily and not to mention not all Spartans are untouchables Dr. Halsey said this in fall of reach, when blue team got their first mission and sam not paying attention to his environments got him almost shot from the unforseen consequences, and on the first casualty of sam 034. And there's a dude here too also said that " not all Spartans are untouchables".
The Titan being a remote autonomous drone suddenly turns any fight into 2v1, and not in the Spartan's favor.
Could not agree with this video more. In a certain environment or with titans, pilots would win but for the most part, Spartans take the W
Ok so I do want to bring Spartans having insane armor and sheilds. As well as deal with enemies at in truth are far more maneuverable then a pilot. I really don't thing they stand any chance against a spartan. A spartan is capable of falling from orbit. The weapons they use are far bigger in terms of caliber and process information way faster.
Ok so in long range it depends on weaponry and a Spartan's knowledge of the enemy. Assuming the gun uses the same caliber as the real life one because I don't remember the in game cartridge, the Denel NTW-20 uses a 20mm cartridge with anti material capabilities. Joint shots on even a titan are not likely to go unnoticed, and a body or headshot on the pilot would do about what you'd expect out of a 20 or 14.5mm bullet going 820 or 1,000 m/s to do to a human body.
@@kennethfarquhar8938 for weapons pilots do carry anti titan weapons, and can use them on personnel. Gameplay wise considering a plasma grenade kills a spartan i think a direct epg probably could too, or a charge rifle which is just a spartan laser that charges faster.
@@kennethfarquhar8938 Truth is only select spartans have AIs in spartan 2s only the highest combat efficiency Spartans get an AI and cannonlly we only see Master Chief with an AI
@@theengineer2017Chief also only got his AI right before Halo 1. The Spartan combat effectiveness was in no way dependent on AI support. However, Spartans were among the most important weapon humanity had against the covenant. In a multi billion number war, it sure says a lot about the capability of 33 individuals (plus the spartan 3s, which is a few hundreds).
Pilots are faster than spartins so honestly I think pilot wins.
Halo also has a "Titan" wich is the Mantis from halo 4 and 5.
except there half the size of a strider class titan the light chasis of titan classes not counting atlas or ogre class titans
And much better than the mantis in multiple ways including that it does not have to be manually controlled, that it’s firepower and weapons are interchangeable without having to change practically the entire design, that it has more abilities and mobility, etc etc
Aight imma leave it just here.
That "mantis" the unsc have is a walking platform with a load of arsenals that can trek all terrains and they lack agility and move slow just like the colossus for the most part and their greatest weakness is leaving it unattended you see the mantis is powered by manually means it needs to be controlled in the inside and it can't defend itself without a spartan or a pilot ( not a Titanfall pilot a normal mantis pilot or a marine ) manually operating it it would only be left vulnerable, while it's a big difference from the titan, the titans like ronin, monarch, Northstar ( even if he flies he's a light weight titan ) is the exact opposite from the mantis, it's equipped with an a.i. that's comprised of warfare tactics, military grade cyber hacking, and it's designed to have a insane busted maneuverability of agility on their body that they can dodge a missile warheads and can even catch and return it to sender with their vortex shields and they can exert out great powerful energy stored strength greater than the Spartans augmentations and exoskeleton armor produced while they spartans move fast in agility and strength in the normal human cqc and titans can run at a tremendous speed 3 times the speed of a warthog due to their size that they absorbed more energy.
Imagine a spartan with pilot equipment
That might be the most op spartan ever to be born mate and it might be the perfect crossover of our 2 beloved FPS game ever.
Good points but you should've included the pilot abilities plus the hack cards since they have the ability to throw done Amp walls anti personal and anti titan turrets Amp there weapons phase in and out of reality
Can't forget the single most annoying mob in the game: ticks
Ais can hack titans
Reason Cortana was able to hack threw Forruners
And Forruners can mop the floor with titans
There’s also the knife that pilots have that can hack anything electronic device if it has a port like the Spartans helmet
@@josephcasper8803 yeah but there's a neuro link between titans and pilots and a self destruct feature
I feel like close quarters a pilot could just phase shift and telefrag a Spartan, no amount of durability could protect you from having your atoms exchanged for those in an alternate dimension.
I think a pilot could easily kick a Spartan’s ass in the right environment
Yeah the Spartans unconscious
Oh yeah, let’s not mention the GIANT ROBOT
This mf couldn't even finish an short apparently. He mentioned it.
Pilots rule!
Bruh you’re sleeping on Spartan AI a little here.
Pretty sutr the spartans can be just a agile off of raw speed and jump height.
If titans were involved. Would a spartan survive a titan landing on them or nuclear ejecting on them
I say the titan landing is close to ODST drop pods but way heavier since both drop from orbit or space. I say a spartan would die outright. Nuclear eject? Not too sure how if Spartans, at least to my knowledge, survived something akin to a nuke
@@soksocksidk either just thought it was to short and wanted to add something else
@@Dragon-nh4ft oh for sure
@@soksockswell I think it has been already said there nuclear and to my general intuition to this is that the armor of the spartan will not be affected by the blast of the nuclear explosion but instead what the blast will affect on the certain body part of the spartan is the unprotected areas those are the lower parts the abdomen and the pelvis and upper leg parts sure the gel layer will take in effect but the explosion of the nuclear ejection doesn't work like from any common explosives like the grenades nor the blast of the rocket launchers and grenade launchers sending shockwaves but the shockwave of the nuclear explosion would penetrate through the gel layer on the unprotected parts of the spartan since the behavior of a nuclear atoms is unpredictably chaotic
Also check out the altered from outriders i think you’ll get some ideas out of it
As both a Titanfall and a Halo fan, I find myself agreeing to all of these statements. Just think of Titanfall Pilots as ODSTs that can move borderline like a Warframe and you get the idea.
Given that your photo of "Spartans" is actually of fire team raven (a square of NON augmented ODST) I think its a much closer matchup
Its all fun and games until you hear the clouds start to part and the rumble of something heavy breaking through the atmosphere
Of course, theres also the GIANT ROBOT to consider
Titanfall Pilots are all augmented. While I don't remember the specifics since it was so long ago, the general concensus was that Titanfall Pilots were generally a bit more powerful than Spartans if I remember correctly.
No not even kind of
Nah hold on we ain't disregarding that one handed tank flipping.
one handed? nah spartans flip vehicles without touching them
Spartan flipping a tank I can say that one of the most iconic moments for a spartan to you but....
What the actual Fuck does that have to do with this? You think a spartan can fli a titan? what is this? You're treating titans as a mechassualt mecha that can never stand up again bro. You're demanding about the titans that can back flip kick a fucking spartan 15 miles across the field completely destroying and ragdolling it's corpse like a ballistic dummy getting hit by a F1 racing car. A tank with legs, arms that equipped with retractable 10 ft blades that can a starship in half, pierced through the supersonic speed and programmed & equipped with Kali, Muay Thai, Brazilian jiujitsu, Wing Chun, krav maga, sambo, pencak Silat, vale Tudo, lethwei, Linear Infighting Neural Override Engagement, MMA, Iaido, Kenjustu, and not to mention that eats 200,000,000 ft/sq2 projectile for breakfast, lunch, snack, dinner, dessert, mofo 🤣🤡.
Tbf, if we go by lore rather than games, spartans are also ridiculously manoeuvrable and have thruster packs. Not to mention they pretty much aimbot with their armour
I've had this conversation a lot with my friends and my brother and this is my conclusion: Spartans will win in an unarmed encounter. No question whatsoever. Spartans will also win regardless of (most) weapons in an open area arena where the pilot doesn't have anywhere to go, no cover to hide behind and nothing to utilize their mobility on. The pilot would win if they are equipped with a high impact, explosive or energy-type weapon. So that would mean a Kraber, any grenadier weapon aside from the SMR since it's literally just a slow firing explosive SMG, any designated titan weapon, or a mastiff since that gun busts through anything within range. It's literally just a breaching shotgun but anti personnel. The pilot would also win if there were a lot of walls and cover, like an urban area as your man said in the video. But if the Titan gets involved, it's not a question that the pilot would win in a 1v1. If a Spartan is not equipped with the right weapons or is completely unaware of the Titan's weaknesses, there's not a chance in hell they're winning. Especially against Scorch, Legion, Tone or Ronin. Scorch is just a menace to get close to and with his area attacks, he would make a Spartan comfortably edible in the time it takes for him to reload and realize the Spartan is dead already. Legion would gun the Spartan down before they'd be able to do anything, Tone would just blast that mf to next week, and it's obvious to any TF2 player as to why Ronin would win. For those that aren't a TF2 player, he has an enormous sword, can step into a parallel dimension, and send out an arc wave with enough voltage to instantly cook the insides of any unfortunate soul that just happens to be within his line of sight for longer than a second. If the Spartan is aware of the weaknesses found in a Titan, so the battery being the main one, or has a heavy weapon like a rocket launcher, it would even out the playing field hugely. All in all, it all depends on whose home field it's in and whose rules they're playing by. But at their peak, it would probably end in a draw or the Spartan winning but by a margin so thin that they would probably bleed out before help can get to them after the fight. Or the pilot winning and sustaining heavy mental injuries and probably losing their link to their Titan as a result. The Mjolnior armour is extremely advanced and tough and the Spartan itself is already a warcrime personified while a pilot, especially an SRS pilot is highly trained and skilful and probably has better equipment than the Spartan, and mobility would not be the only advantage they'd have, with a cloak ability which I think Spartans have too but I'm not sure since I don't play Halo, a stim ability that makes everything good better, a knife that one shots every infantry troop it hits and sends out a sonar, a decoy ability, the capability to step between freakin realities, and a barrier that makes guns hit harder, not mentioning the boosts. If I take every piece of base equipment however, I can confidently say that if the environment were to benefit both of them, the pilot would win. (Please don't hurt me Halo fans I'm just saying what I think based on what I've seen I'm genuinely scared please help me)
So I disagree because a pilots running speed is about 20km/h while an average spartan clocks in at 55km/h. Spartans have a speed advantage. Then theres the Spartans reaction time, the armors sensors and that pilot wont even know what hit him. That pilot thinks hes fast running on the wall with his kump jets but he dosen't know that the only reason a Spartan isn't wall running is because theres no wall strong enough. Spartans are faster, stronger and better trained. Spartans are used to fighting cloaked enemies so that wouldn't be a problem. A spartan would be suprised by a phasing pilot but as soon as that pilot comes out. Hes getting shot. Even with a titan in the mix the only time a titan will be able to aqquire a Spartan an engage if hes standing still or using something like the legion smart core (which I'm pretty sure is a gameplay mechanic), electric smoke and inferno sheild ronin would try to slash the spartan for the spartan to duck it and climb up the titan. A Spartan is not comparable to a pilot.
@@twangypeppers4531 Okay so first off, thank you for taking the time to read my essay, I wasn't sure if anyone would, and second off, those are some very good points, however, I do have some arguments to make.
1. Pilots do have a slow average of 20 km/h sprint speed however they can reach upwards of 100 km/h when a skilled pilot is brought in and knows how to use explosives to boost them. I don't really have anything to say about their reaction time as apparently pilots are just "well-trained grunts" however based on the feats we see them do it's possible that they have some level of enhancements, at least enough to be able to keep up with their speed. Stronger also does go to Spartans, but they're so heavy and strong that as you stated, they can't leverage their surroundings because they'd just break them.
2. Phase and cloak aren't the only tacticals pilots have access to, they also have a grapple hook, a stim that multiplies speed, strength and regenerative ability, a blockade that's able to withstand even titan weapons (though that probably won't help seeing as it's stationary), a clone maker and wallhacks, and going by what we've seen, pilots are not restricted to just one of these tactical abilities (see Lastimosa using a pulse blade, grapple and holo in quick succession) so the abilities of their gear is better.
3. Titan-wise, if they're an idiot and pick a bad titan for this, they're gonna lose. The Spartan is gonna get close, punch the cockpit and rip out the pilot. However, Smart Core Legion, Scorch, and Ronin would likely be able to either take the Spartan out before they get close enough to do that, or at the very least keep them at bay long enough for their other abilities to do that, such as how you mentioned the electric smoke. Also, how is a Spartan going to get close to a titan that can fly?
A Spartan and Pilot are comparable however their circumstances and whether either of them are idiots will heavily determine the flow of the battle but in my humble opinion, with all the gear and the absolute highest level of expertise on both ends, a Pilot will probably come out on top albeit probably won't survive for much longer. This would probably go a slight bit more to their side if they're in an area such as the Rise map from TF2 where there's just as much wall in the air as there is ground. However on a small map, Spartans will probably come out on top by simply jumping as the pilot whizzes by and grabbing onto their leg. As I said, circumstances are a massive contributing factor but the amount of gear a pilot has with all their abilities, the Mjolnir armour doesn't have the same amount of abilities and while it gives a massive advantage with the abilities it does have, they don't have the same ability to adapt and fuck around with random bullshit as pilots.
@razvanmunteanu7195 the grenade boost was an interesting mechanic however it's a gameplay mechanic that only works in the gauntlet because you cant die. Maybe a fastball from a titan would get a pilot up to those speeds but that's not going to last. Plus theres excerpts from books where master chief slaps away missles launched from fighter jets, so I imagine a pilot wouldn't even want to close the distance if they knew what a spartan was capable of. Also a Spartan wouldn't just let ronin approach and if the ronin did get close it wouldn't be fast enough to hit the spartan. The northstar titan would pose a problem but it dosent seem likely that it could maintain flight forever and realistically a spartan wouldn't engage something they couldn't. Also spartans have armor abilities as well. From cloak, armor lock, dome sheild, jetpacks, thruster packs, decoys, and grapple. Theres a lot more but these would be the most combat effective. A shot from a distance with a kraber I imagine would take out an unsuspecting spartan but that's boring.
@@twangypeppers4531 You know you're the first person on this app I've actually had a debate with rather than a straight up argument, imma need to come back to this later. Thank you for being intelligent stranger.
@@skeptic192 if a pilot knew what a spartan was capable of he'd hop from rooftop to rooftop firing from above however another thing that poses a problem for a pilot skill and armor. Spartans are trained from the age of six so they're all great shooters. But can a pilot engage something moving fast is yet to be seen because aside from multipayer gameplay. The times we see pilots engaging enemy combatants is in really close range. So for the sake of fairness both are equally skilled. That still makes a pilot a glass cannon. A pilot is going to take a hit and keep fighting like a spartan might.
If both side have absolutely everything from their perspective universes that they could possibly use in mission, i give it to the spartans 7/10 times. If both side are forced to fight or die with no possibility to retreat then i give it to the spartans 9/10.
The biggest advantage is the spartans reflexes and the leniency they have due to their armor and on board systems. Cloaking, bubble shield, jetpack, thruster packs, armor lock, sprint, evade, and enhanced optics all have titanfall equivalents and can all be used by the spartans without having to re equip. Spartans also have the use of heavy weapons like the railgun, srs99 stantion anti material rifle, spartan laser, and spanker missle launcher as well as access to c12 demo and cratering charges.
All of that said pilots are no slouches either, however their armor outside of titans is not nearly as protective as the spartans. Titans are also an important factor, the firepower and armor they bring to the table can be a game changer and in the right circumstances brings the pilots a win, however the spartans heavy wepons should still be at least moderately effective against them. If they are not, the c12 charges should be but id drop probabilitys to 5/10.
In an optimal environment like dense forests or urban sparal at street level without entering buildings pilots have a much better chance, about 5/10. In extreme cqc (in buildings were the mobility of the pilots is restricted or in huge open areas the spartans would likely win 8/10 times. In most cases id expect both sides to retreat and reassess if they find themselves in a greatly disadvantageous situation all other things being equal.
"pilots have titans and gadgets" yeah and a Spartan with a plasma pistol solo'd a alien space ship and blew up a planet sized super weapon.
A SPECIAL Spartan
@@deathrex007 Chief is actually regarded as fairly average among the spartan 2
He’s not the biggest, strongest, fastest or even the best marksman
The only thing special about him was his luck, at least according to Cortana
@@flash-fire117 nope he not average he's second best but in every category making more versatile than the others.
@@V3RAC1TYI detest on that, do you think chief can defeat the entire army of flood only using a frail chair? Don't think so 🤔.
And also soloed? Soloed what the didact in which he cannot even kill in the first place? Chief is done when he runs out of ammo, whilst it's a gain for didact to turn him into an alphabet vegetable canned soup 😂.
Also the fact that they canonically can respawn
I'm gonna still give it to Spartans in urban areas since they were made for fighting insurrectionists and rebels
Pilots have more mobility than insurrectionists or rebels.
@@Ashest52 Spartans may look like a hunk of metal but they float like a hawk
And sting like a missle
@@josephcasper8803 yeah, Spartans are mobile, but in a urban environment, pilots thrive with their mobility. For example, look at the world record pilot gauntlet run. It's nuts.
Pilots can travel at speeds of over 100 kilometres per hour with no injuries.
@Saturated sausage true.
@Saturated sausage pretty sure Jack Cooper takes a 300+ metre fall and continues to sprint immediately after landing.
A Spartan has access to whatever weapons they can find. And with their canonical reflexes, the weapon they find is probably yours.
I think spartans have thrusters at least, it's just they can only be used at will in halo 5
I mean, spartans are capable of latching onto vehicles and shoving grenades in them or just punching them until they explode. And i don't think titans have any armaments aside from their main guns (i've never played titanfall, only watched it)
Titanfall Pilots do revieve Regeneration from the Advocate. While the exact process is unknown it is stated to make Pilots stronger and faster at the cost of the memory of some of their fighting
Spartan vs Titan
Depending in titan chasis pilot could win everytime.
Spartans gonna have a tough day agianst my legion
Also yeah pilots have augmentations to account for the grapple hook that can tear your bones
The stim that can tear your bone and
And a normal knife
That has a radar
Um you might want to go look up everything Spartans have ever used in the Halo series because Spartans have access to everything including ships with nukes. You can't really knife fight someone who pulls up in a Stealth Ship and drops a crap ton of nukes on you. Just saying research needed.
saw roanoke gaming talk bout this but he thinks the reason pilots can ko robot in one punch is because they have nanites in them that make their bones and muscles incredibly powerful
Simulacrum pilots like ash take the fucking cake on a spartan tho I mean most simulacrums are cheap metal various steels ETC. But a simulacrum like ash who is entirely titanium alloy and has swords as feet sheesh also the titan fal universe I believe is a lot closer than the halo universe in terms of time
Not to mention the titans can explode with the power of a nuclear blast while a spartan couldn’t even run in time. Man, I love titanfall
I don't think you actually know anything about canon spartans if you think they couldn't outrun the blast shown of titans explosion.
Spartan can explode like a mini nuke.
@@Metalgearfox2000 A titan can tank a nuke blast for a pilot, a mjolnir suit cannot tank a nuke for the wearer
Imo a pilot is the halo equivalent of an odst with a jumpack, give an already deadly soldier better equipment and they can take the world.
As a warhammer fan I love the idea that basically anything outside of the warhammer 40k universe gets curb stomped by a space marine
But the only reason that works is because everything in 40k is ludicrously over powered, like take a spartan vs a space marine is easy for the marine outside of plot armor because it’s a literal 8 foot tall most of the time hundreds of years old ancient warrior with a BIG FUCKING GUN and lots of experience fighting eldrich horrors and orks
Depends on what Spartan we’re talking about. A Spartan 2 like master chief would probably beat a pilot and their titan with relative ease, since chief has faced much tougher opponents in the games and books.
Space marines : hehe he try to punch me
Pilots are also insanely augmented
if you wanted to make it really even, just give the pilot their titan and pit them against a fairly armed chief
Depending on the titan weapon for example legions smart core or inferno sheild. Any Spartan solos a pilot in a titan. A titan and a pilot might be tricky but I'd still have my money on the spartan.
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Think people forget spartan time. Think it was mentioned in one of the books. To spartans they're so focused and move fast everything slows down to them. Like bullet time kinda.
Especially when the Titan explodes