I mean I’m pretty sure Bangalore and Newcastle were pilots in training just like jack cooper but unlike jack they just never got to piloting actual titans so it kinda makes sense that two of them could maybe take down one pilot (if jack can kill multiple highly skilled mercenaries two pilots in training can probably kill a pilot)
@@wafflelover5999 in the lore Newcastle has received a pilot certificate and a titan and Bangalore was arguably similar skill level to cooper since she was also a very skilled riflemen, since Newcastle was Bangalore’s brother he did teach her a lot about being a pilot. So yeah I was wrong about Bangalore being a pilot but Newcastle was a pilot so it isn’t impossible that the both of them took out a pilot
Most of us don't _hate_ Apex per se, it's just frustrating that one of the best shooter games, gameplay wise and lore wise, was completely abandoned by the devs, had it's lore and universe gutted, and was basically unplayable due to neglect for the past few years... ...because a battle royale made more money.
also the whole shift to heroes. the latest games in general have been revolving around characters and their 1 dimensional personalities. I hope TF3 still has pilots that aren't character archetypes like legends
i do hate the game. it's horrible the community is as bad as you'd expect from a BR microtransactions are ass legends are ass the whole game leans a lot on real life politics which i despise in games lore is ass ranked has actually devolved since release heirlooms are overpriced which would have have been the only cosmetics worth getting if they weren't more than a triple a game at full price and the game still runs at 24 tick servers for a competitive shooter which just leaves me speechless.
Cause it made money period. I wonder if they'd even still be around if they hadn't made Apex. Maybe the part of the company that made Star Wars games would be all that was left.
@@0ri well, they do have shareholders to impress and quotas to hit regardless. If tf3 happens it will almost definitely have apex-level microtransactions, but if it justifies its existence, then whatever. I do hope they at least keep camos as unlockables through gameplay.
@@orwhynotrandomand this is the one aspect which 100% going to be touched alongside other gameplay decisions. The going to try to pull as many casual as they can therefore this game going to be changed fundamentally it still going to be about movement this I clear but it 100% ain’t going to feel the same. Me as a tf player I want a tf3 but tbh I don’t know if this game is then going to be what tf fans want
same. Titanfall 2's monetisation system is by far the BEST system ever in a game - you only pay for what you want (camo packs, prime titan skins etc). absolutely NO RNG (advocate gift, yes but you can buy with credits if you REEEAALLLLYYY want the banner/camo/patch etc) or lootbox bs Apex is basically a gambling sim with the lootbox bs.
The worst Part is that Titan Fall 2 was the most Solid Shooter we have had for years. A game like titanfall is exactly what we needed and still need in gaming. The first one fumbled by not having any story and being exclusive. Most people where still mad about that by the time 2 came out, despite 2 having taken and applied 100% of the critisizm. It was a badass game. I remember playing the Titanfall beta and i will never forget calling down my titan for the very first time and the chills it gave me.
I have a weird pipe dream that someday ALL of the crazy movement shooters would get put into a single game as different Classes. Ultrakill, Splatoon, Titanfall 2, and Team Fortress 2 somehow all being in the same firefight together and NOT completely breaking balance would be a miracle.
Titanfall 2 is my all time top shooter. But my all time second place is battlefield 1. It sucks that titanfall has been neglected and pushed to the side every day since launch
@@ED-gw9rg Let's never forget Tribes... Able to continuously buildup momentum. Also, not classes but custom loadout. You can have the ability you want, with the gun you want, with the attachments you want and the tools you want. Screw the whole specialist / hero stuff we have now.
I still can’t wrap my head fully around why people look at all the movement tricks and genuine badassery of Titanfall and go “naw, I’d rather play a version of this that’s dumbed down where I have to scavenge for guns”
Lol, as someone who has fun with both games, I sort of get this sentiment. However, the main thing that Apex does that appeals to me is increased teamplay. I have a lot more fun playing with friends on Apex as it feels more like an actual team, while in Titanfall, mainly as a pilot, it feels less connected.
@@peamut547 I switched over from playing CS to apex because I wanted a better team experience that is more consistent. That's the magic of apex, and battle royale's as a whole.
doesnt it have to do with the guy develop(ed)ing his own version of tf1 and not wanting people to play respawns version? maybe i got it wrong, but thats my understanding of it.
@@joak9755 they didn't leave, they got fired because of a contract saying that as long as they were at infinity ward, royalties and some shits would be theirs
One of the other lore-related things that really annoys me is how everybody seems to know everybody. Mirage's mom made the Holo suit, and he's related to the guys from frontier defense, and his brothers died in the war, and Ash made Pathfinder, and Horizon made the time travel device, and Bangalore and Newcastle were going to be pilots, and Viper's daughter, Valkyrie is there, who turned his Titan into a suit with help from Rampart, and Blisk made the Apex Games, and Hammond made Revenant, and I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting, but it just seems like they're trying to make as many callbacks as possible, while also making everyone have history with someone else. that's like saying everyone in the NBA were friends with each other in second grade, and all just so happened to be professionals at the same sport, at the same time, on the same team. The legends are essentially just athletes, but they're off reassembling robot people with parts from other dimensions, or trying to break into some company to kill another robot. I realize I'm drifting away from Titanfall lore here, but Respawn is basically doing, "Remember this? Remember them?" and it's annoying...
the worst thing I've ever seen is that Bangalore survived a punch from a Pilot THAT IS STRAIGHT BULL. We know for a fact, and not from just in game mechanics, that Pilots have enough augmented strength to kill with a punch if they wanted to. And Bangalore walked away from that punch like it was nothing
I mean... to be fair, wraith was meta for a long ass time, and she's one of the few legends who was a pilot. But Apex's lore makes no sense, considering Ash and Revenant should undoubtedly be the deadliest legends, and both were... not great for a long while.
@@gaiusjuliuscaesar9902 Almost like, and bear with me here, its a video game and they need to balance characters rather than being 100% lore accurate in terms of ability
@@masonbartelt9959 As a Team Fortress 2 player who's sick of the community for overly hating on Overwatch unfairly, Titan fall players seem to be just as unberable as those Team Fortress 2 players for doing the same thing against Apex.
Most of the hate isnt directed against Apex. Lots of Titanfall players couldnt give two shits about a reaper in an Apex cinematic or a smart pistol not locking on(he was using a Titanfall 1 smart pistol btw, an older model that does have a non-lockon mode). They mostly hate how Respawn treated Titanfall 1 and 2, completely abandoning them in an unplayable state. And then acting like they dont exist except for some nostalgia bait in Apex to get us to buy a skin.
Most of OG respawn behind the creation of Titanfall moved onto other studios. Fanboys are so mad the current puppeteers of this studio are not making tf3, you guys are wishing for another diablo 4, have fun with that.
@@TheSweetTeaGuyNo, it’s not true. I’ve never seen a singe report about this and can’t find one now. Respawn has been a successful studio for a while now with no significant lay-offs or problems. I’m sure some people have left, but certainly not mass attrition like the person has for some reason claimed.
There hasnt been a single game that injects pure fast paced movement shooter goodness directly into your frontal lobe since titanfall. No, superglides are not the same
Little correction on the Sabotage part: Respawn itself insisted on the releases Date and EA actually tried to talk them out of it but respawn don`t listend
@anonapache I say both parties are the problem. EA is like a dad and all the companies under its wing is his children, like how a dad influences his children, ea influences the companies they own. Ea is a good publisher when your not owned by them but if you are they start to demand for certain things to be in the game
Two teams fighting each other for points isn't exactly original, either. Let's face it, Titanfall is simple since it is based on COD. Games like Doom Eternal and Ultrakill are the true technical shooters. Titanfall players are at the area where they can boast that they have greater skill than other fps players because multiplayer arena fps is dead. Titanfall is closer to COD than it is to Quake.
@johncarl5505 What? it is a fps movement shooter it's closer to dirty bomb then it is cod. But what does titanfall players talking about skill have do with anything?
@uboa8060 I never said it was an arena fps, I just said it wasn't original. There are more fps games with 2 teams fighting each other than there are battle royales, so it's funny when people call Apex an unoriginal fps and think Titanfall is original. As for the arena fps comment, I'm just pointing out the fact that some people think Titanfall is a hidden gem because of its advanced movement, when there are other fps games with way more technical movement that died as well. There's nothing special about Titanfall.
It’s fine to have characters. It’s fine to give them distinct personalities. Thing is, I don’t want to be a electrician in her 20s with daddy issues. I don’t want to be a quirky engineer, that chews gum, while killing her friends on a daily basis. I want to be a pilot. My personality is my loadout and my mission is to nuke my walking skyscraper in the middle of an active warzone for maximum violation of the geneva conventions
@@victorykingpin3674 my brother and I used to rock Nexus Evolution (and Revolution for the bonus content!) back in our Elementary days. My pa got us Shadow of the Colossus but I insisted on playing AC, mechs are just MMPH majestic! To the new-gens, yes the DLC wasn't bought online and instantly applied back then, get an actual copy of another game then work your ass off to get the cool shit there then play the original disc with a now-updated save file.
Same here, I don't wanna be a dumb tournament league whatever representative, I want to be an actual super soldier who has a big badass Mecha that will fight alongside me and help our Grunt brothers and Spectres across a guns blazin map Battle Royale is just stupid and bland, no fun in the game at all
I remember convincing my mom to call me in sick to school in middle school because i got into the Titanfall 1 early playtest. I hope there is more Titanfall to be had brothers.
You also neglected to mention that for a while, Titanfall 2 was also unplayable without the Northstar client and Respawn just stood by for months while focusing on Apex. Which also spurred a bit of a controversy when TF|2 fans hacked Apex servers for a day or two to draw attention to the issue.
World is runned by money, corporations are, so is Respawn, TF2 don't get them any money so why would they work on it when Apex make them rich. It's sad i know but in the gaming industry we often forgot the second word, industry, would you work for free, cuz i don't ? (Heck maybe even at loose)
@@theomerlo9633 for many of those devs, it’s about passion. They could do a lot more with their experience, but they choose to make games. It wouldn’t kill Respawn to at least do the bare minimum to protect the game that made them what they are. But they all but abandoned Titanfall, and the idea on which Respawn was founded after they split from activision.
@@VIIIrats Yeah? I wonder how many of the people at respawn now were part of the respawn that made TF1/2. I'd wager not a lot. I'm sure there are a lot of employees at this company who see Apex as their baby and TF as the thing done by the guy they replaced.
A reaper is meant to be like a mini titan. A grunt seeing a reaper would either run or give up, AS IF a group of kids with rough childhoods could kill or beat a reaper.
Like when reapers spawn and start moving around the grunts are programmed to run away or when you aim a titan gun at a grunt they cower in fear on the ground.
And also let's not forget when some people in a desperate try to get Respawn's attention to the Titanfall 2 DDOS problem, ended up hacking Apex. And Respawn was like: "Lol what a weird hack XD. You can play Apex again everyone" I don't hate Apex. I hate Respawn lack of care to the franchise that lead to Apex. Also how tf Titanfall 2 got a dub in my language and Apex existing for years no? wth
It's more baffling because Bangalore was a grunt. The storm troopers of Titanfall. Although she was elite, the pilot wouldn't have just let her counter him.
@@KirbsFan321 I actually never knew that, I swear they where Just like a high ranking IMC grunts but thanks for letting me know. Ive not really heard anything about them being pilots but the animation still doesent make much sense.
@@zkakproductions2049 They aren't certified, They both went through the IMC's military academy as a top performers, and Bangalore got absolutely dumpstered by a Militia pilot and nearly died but thanks to her brother, her sorry ass got saved. Neither of them are actually certified to be pilots, maybe, and this is a HUGE maybe Newcastle is, but Bangalore? Fuck no.
I mean respawn made Jedi Fallen Order and Survivor so it seems like Respawn so far hasn't been fully tainted yet even though technically EA was behind Survivors rocky start
@@XD-Intrepidfor once ea wasn't the reason, ea told respawn to hold off releasing titanfall until battlefield and cod hype died down to maximise sales, respawn released it anyway
I find it ironic that it takes multiple legends to take down the reaper when I can do it in like less than 10 seconds all by my lonesome as a pilot in TF2 and they want to pretend pilots wouldn’t wipe the floor with the legends.
It takes less than a full mag from the R-101 to kill a Reaper, and yet in Apex Legends it takes multiple Magazines from the R-302 to kill some skinny rich kid with robot legs and Pilot Stim? God Apex is stupid...
if being a half-life fan has taught me anything, it's expect nothing and and hope. i really hope TF|3 happens but i'm not expecting much on the 27th. would love to be proven wrong about this
I still can't get over the fact that the reaper in the Kill Code 3 video literally punches one of the Legends in the face full force and the guy just shakes his head and sits up like he slipped and bumped his head on a table.
When in Titanfall 2, getting caught slipping by a Reaper as a Pilot means you bolt as fast as you can before they rip your head off, or if you're in a Titan, you kill it as fast as possible before they drop you from full to Doomed in like 5 seconds.
@@ironladyerimuth Part of me almost doesn't want to see BT and Cooper again out of fear of what nu-respawn would do to the characters. We've already seen what nu-respawn does when they do bring out anything TF related and it is very consistent track record of mud dragging.
I can’t see how they can win when cooper was already an outstanding pilot without full training, he’ll certainly get more training and experience. I hope we get some random bs like bt teleported to another universe where apex legends doesn’t exist and jack follows (ending scene morse code message)
As an Apex Fan, I personally really love Titanfall. I have zero issues with TF fans too. I’ve been unlucky enough to have met nothing but toxic players when playing the game but it’s more of the “Suck it noob,” try hard sort of toxic and not the “I hate Apex,” toxic.
But the community on Reddit is really sweet and the very few times I got onto a none toxic server all the people on there were chill and were actively trying to help me figure out the movement. But yeah I have zero issues, I understand the jealousy and hate towards the Apex community from TF fans, but Apex is the reason why I fell in love with Titanfall. I also really want to try TF1.
Came across an entire team in boomtown with Awalls and spitfires and cars. Our team just quit and went back to matchmaking lol. I only got a few hours a day to game, I ain't got time for that.
@@RustyShackleford556 But it's not mobile it's just like the A wall, also a very very niche boost. They could switch it. Then make the particle wall mobile like with grunts.
Titanfall fans hate apex fans because imagine if the doctors stopped performing surgery on your child because someone else just walked in with a twisted ankle.
It’s because Apex is a lesser version of Titanfall in every single way. Everything from the titans to the movement system to the gameplay that made Titanfall great is completely gone or reduced to the point of being unnoticeable. Apex is a soulless cash grab of a game with a nothingburger story and COD like gameplay all packed into a boring arena shooter. And what’s worse is instead of just letting apex be it’s own thing they insist on doing all these silly callbacks and references to draw in or pander to the Titanfall crowd but the issue is I want Titanfall not a mediocre arena shooter with a bunch of references to Titanfall.
"to the movement system" in this thread: titanfall fans not having a single clue how the fuck apex works say it once, ill say it again, titanfall's movem,ent is really slick and clean, but yall saying apex movement is ass just shows none of yall played apex. YES i am an apex player but YES i did play titanfall. it's fucking sick. but only one of these games is not fucking dead
@@yurilopes420 I’ve played both and objectively Titanfall has the better movement system. It is fast paced, clean and smooth allowing me to go flying thru the map like greased lightning. Meanwhile Apex is none of those when it comes to its movement system, in Apex even on mobility focused Legends like Octane I’m out here foot slogging it across the map like some Grunt. Apex flatout has a much less fluid style of movement, even at its best it is worse than Titanfall. When I play a game in that universe I want to play it being able to jump around like a frog on meth, not an elderly bulldog on dental anesthetic. And Titanfall 2 isn’t dead because people stopped playing it, it’s dead because the team behind it were told to start working on what would eventually become Apex.
@@yurilopes420 There is a film here on RUclips called "A love letter to Titanfall movement system". Try to do even half of the things shown there in Apex. You won't
My issue is with Apex compared to Titanfall is the movement. The feel of aiming and the way sliding works is recognizable but you're so much slower it just feels so neutered when you know what movement can be in the engine. Like why do I have to be stuck in the mud, walking around like a mortal man when I should be wallrunning at 100 mph and barely touching the ground. Theres probably a balance explanation for this but that doesn't really matter to me, if the game needs to be less fun to work then I'm not interested.
That's how exactly how I feel. I hate how in titanfall 2 the meta is roof camping with an SMG, it makes outplaying a lot harder and less fun because I can't just bounce around a person or his teammates will all target you on a roof. it was never this bad at least on PC. On console is still the same SMG and movement is meta.
thats literally a skill issue and thats when i think titanfall players just talk out their asses i never played titanfall at the time but its legit my fav fps that i never played having said that, apex is definitely not a "im stretching through the mud at a snail's pace". that's what it is when you're trash the difference of titanfall and apex is, titanfall has hard baked EXTREMELY fun mechanics like wallrunning the titans and shit. apex is a way more organic game in which most mechanics (movement mechanics in this case) came from trial and error and abusing the game's engine and it's limitations we dont have wallrunning but we have wallbouncing, which i think most players would agree it's objectively more skill expressive we dont have all that speed and shit but you have momentum conservation, and wallbouncing, into a perfect ledge dash, into a slope, jumping tapstrafe, etc, you can cross like half the map extremely quickly again, im not on some "apex > titanfall" bullshit, but yall using arguments that are literally just wrong. apex IS slower than titanfall but it's not like m2 compared to fucking infinite warfare. it's just a little bit slow, and it's not even THAT slow granted you know what the fuck you're doing
@yurilopes420 You apex players are annoying. You left over 20 comments defending this awful trash of a game. And the use of emojies too...my gosh. No one takes you seriously. I'm so glad Apex is getting mostly negative on screen. Hope it stays that way too.
The movement of apex legends is a joke compared to TF2. I just watched a vid on wall-bouncing...I'll take frame perfect wall hops to gain ludicrous speed over that any day. Write all the books you want, preface everything you say with "most gamers agree" even but this fortnite pig slop speaks for itself.
that is objectively wrong titanfall didnt make any money. they wouldnt give it up and go to apex if it gave money. yall dont seem to have common sense TF3 would NEVER have existed in this world granted titanfall 2 was as big of a flop as it was also what the fuck does the genre battle royale have anything to do with anything lmao
I interviewed a former EA marketing employee and he said that EA and respawn were discussing wherher to release TF2 in feb or oct and they chose october
@@xdom3641 the guy I interviewed also said he was on the side of releasing the game in feb. imagine a world where TF was released on its own where it could become the best fps of all time
@@Shigzmi maybe then I would have heard of it several years earlier and would have been playing it much longer. I only discovered it after apex came out, and now it's replaced apex for me for about a year
That's why it's a conspiracy. Could EA make Respawn release TF|2 in October? Probably, but every info we have points to Respawn wanting to release the game in October.
Why did T2 have to get mugged in a back alley and shot three times in the head, twice in the chest, and five times in the nuts. Yet Apex is swaddled like a newborn.
I mean, it's pretty simple. The reason we didn't get more support for titanfall 2 was because they were busy working on Apex. The reason we didn't get a titanfall 3 till maybe now is because of apex.
Titanfall used to be a space western with semi hard sci fi aspects. Now we have people with magic powers and using black holes to generate energy. Fuck APEX.
I hate Apex because, simply put, it isn’t very good to begin with, and the fact that it comes off the heels of Titanfall 2 is insulting Everything about Apex is just a neutered version of Titanfall. Less movement options, less customization, no titans, no campaign, no characters that you even want to try to care about, and a “story” that is built entirely off of reveal trailers rather than gameplay, and even then, the lore of Apex is disjointed and inconsistent as it, at times, directly contradicts the lore of Titanfall, making it feel even more insulting Titanfall is better in every single way, and it feels awful knowing that EA and Respawn stopped caring about it for so long Not only is Apex a HORRIBLE game, it’s fucking insulting. It feels like EA wanted Titanfall to fail without realizing why people actually like it
The lore of Apex is also extremely tame, where is Titanfall is a bit darker. Don't get me wrong its not Spec Ops The Line, but in Apex Legends, the Apex Predators (I hesitate to even call them that) look like a bunch of social media influencers. In Titanfall, the (real) Apex Predators were cutting the ears off of corpses to make "trophies", they're supposed to be violent war criminals.
@@declanjones8888 EXACTLY! It's almost insulting to hear Respawn say "Titanfall is the core of our DNA" when they water it down to fit it into Apex. What sucks is that Apex could've been truly great, because a game that centers itself around a faction of war criminals and exiles could be legitimately amazing. Could it have been better than Titanfall? Maybe. A lot of core aspects of Titanfall (and especially the grittiness of Titanfall 1) would've fit so well in that kind of game, but it feels like they just wanted to make it safe for new players during the BR craze I can't deny that it worked at least in terms of sales, but I would've loved to see what this game COULD be, rather than what it became
I'm currently no contact with one of my oldest friends because he told me that "Apex legends is better then Titanfall ever was and that I need to get guuuud" on a battle Royale game where everyone uses the exact same "meta" to win
@@raymondtomas2294 dont tell him about people wanting to win 🤣🤣 as if there is no meta in titanfall, there's legit a dude up there saying "i got into a lobby in TF2 where the whole enemy team had spitfires and car's behind Awalls camping".... yeah imagine that, people tryharding in a fun game😂😂
Honestly for me it really just came down to the movement. Titanfall 2 has some of my favorite movement mechanics in any game. When apex came out I was excited to see maybe a new and further developed form of that same movement system. Instead I felt slow and clunky while playing and even reintroduced mechanics like the grappling hook felt weak compared to what they once were
For real. And what's sad, they could have offered a truly unique BR gaming experience that would have been exclusive to Apex. It could have been fights built in a city map designed to support wall running or we could have been in a training facility, even one of those virtual simulation things they had back in TF2. It could have been that but instead they went with the "appeal to a younger audience" play.
@@sanjidandelioni think apex does enough to set itself apart, i mean its the only relevant game that is a hero shooter in the br genre. and for your second statement about "appealing to a younger audience" doesnt hold up very well since basically every squad i find are at least 16-mid 20's and up. of course there are exceptions but unless the average 'gamer' age suddenly jumped to 30 or 40 i wouldnt say it appealed to younger audiences i.e squeakers/fortnite kids. i imagine you say this because of how the game is more colorful and is more light hearted than your usual darker toned, grey, green, and brown color palette games but to call it sad is a bit of an exaggeration.
Titanfall 2 is a highly underrated gem. If they were to bother to give a damn about Titanfall 3, they'd have an instant hit, given how everyone I speak to on the matter says "Titanfall 3 yes, Apex Legends no". Hell, a couple friends and I still hop into Frontier Defense from time to time. I'd personally like a TF3 as I never got into the MP of the second, like I did with the first. Still a blast though. And gahd dayum, that campaign was amazing. Short, but oh so sweet/tender.
I don’t think Titanfall fans hate apex I think they just hate the thought of what apex could’ve been , also the reaper thing is true , those things would’ve destroyed the legends in close range combat
Its really just so sad how much EA mistreats it’s own titles, just as Titanfall is being fixed, the damn pvz shooter franchise is becoming unplayable on pc from hackers banning people
imagine you are your parents favorite son and full of potential . until suddenly your parents stop supporting you to allocate all of their resource to your younger brother because he is following a trend better (BR)
Apex is like the devs OC in the titanfall universe. If you really follow the lore, yes, pilots die a lot during a conflict, but they don't die to grunts like Bangalore and New Castle. It's implied they followed pilot training, but they obviously failed since they were grunts💀
As someone who's never played a TF game, seeing how strong the TF fanbase and how RSPN is fixing TF2 makes me hope that the fanbase get a new game because I'm a huge fan of the Mirror's Edge franchise and DICE has basically given up on it and its died which is sad because it's my favourite game, so it's nice to see another franchise get fixes and a new game hopefully greenlit in the future because It makes the players happy!
@@suop5252 apex has a LOT of movement tricks, but most of them are based around firefights whereas most of the tech in tf|2 was developed for speedrunning
@@lizabeth529 the tech wasn't "developed" for speedrunning, they have been discovered because of speedrunning, TF2's movement was made based on older shooters, and it shows, devs were allowed to make maps like crazy, and have an inhouse poll on which maps were the best to play around in, which makes it gameplay first and everything else second, the best method of making maps for a pvp mode. apex's entire system of engagement is the same as any other br, rng based lootdrops with areas of better rng, making them more sought after by the skilled players, followed by time to recover and get ready for the next firefight. TF2 is just> ME GO NYOOOM AND SHOOT 24/7 with movement tech and weapon skills integrated
I'm burnt out on most PVP games these days, but Titanfall 2 is just so beautiful in motion that it's still great to play. There's always something going on
@@jonharrison3114I am atleast, and I barely have 100hrs in the game, I’ve carried a few games too lol, I think I have like a 1.5K/D? Although it prob doesn’t mean much
@@stormbreaker504meh, kills mean nothing if you just run CAR and stim all day, I once got satchelled to oblivion by a guy running at 50 mph, doing those kinds of goofy stuffs are the best way to enjoy the game imo.
@@jonharrison3114 yeah I have fun I play holo/volt, like doing a lil trolling with holo if I dont send it the same direction I’m going which will get me killed
Oh yeah that did happen! Also I don't like how Apex Legends says the Frontier Militia win the war, because....... reasons. How did they win? Last time we checked out, the FM weren't exactly doing grand.
i played Apex first and when i heard Titanfall 2 5 dollars sale back in 2020, i bought it and the movement blew my mind away. The movement is so quick and crazy but the gun is made to be more accurate to compensate the movement so you can kill enemies why flying like spiderman. after that i just cannot came back to Apex knowing that the movement is just mid and Mozambique and CAR is deadly in Titanfall 2, unlike in Apex. And even if i played Apex again the only character I play is Pathfinder because of grappling hook. Oh, and where's my Legion titan in Apex? Nowhere? I mean who doesn't love a giant robot with flappy ass and a giant minigun?
Why does EA not want to make history? It's like they don't see the potential Financial boom that's going to happen when they just ANNOUNCE the development of the next game
Apex was going to be what the community and devs wanted, but EA made it for what was trendy at the time. I just imagine that in a different timeline EA released TF|2 at a good time and it just ruled the gaming industry and became the “main trend” game
Ea had no say in apex though when titanfall 3 was development, respawn told them to trust them when they were making a BR because PUBG was trending at the time and they felt confident about it
Here's my guess: They are going to release Titanfall 3 as... "Apex Legends 2: Titanfall 3". For kicker, they are going to force updates so all Titanfall become subtitle.
In short: apex gets the unearned spotlight and Respawn/EA have the audacity to use titanfall to bring clout to apex ( which imo we wont get a titanfall 3 and all of this is some hype to put more content on apex )
Btw EA wanted Titanfall 3, respawn worked on it for 10 months then decided to make it a battle royal without EA's permission. This was confirmed by the head developer of the time (it's some Arabic name I can't remember) as a Titanfall fan this is super sad.
i dont care if it has a battle pass, i don't care if it has a battle royale mode, I don't care if it has predatory monetization. just give us good movement and giant robots in a simple arena style shooter and the people will be happy
Tried to play Apex with Titanfall and Titanfall 2 in mind. The movement is so stale compared to Titanfall 2. Bring an Apex only player into Titanfall 2 multiplayer and watch them get wiped constantly.
The movement before release was much more faster, they purposefully nerfed it for whatever reason it is, probably to shape it into a less coherent game than what it used to be, then dump millions of micro transactions and get endless recolors to launder in money, basically their marketing strategy at this point.
I wouldn't be surprised if EA actually did the occasional small thing to intentionally piss off Titanfall fans. As they say, any publicity is good publicity.
2:11 honestly the reaper seemed fine in kill code part 3, you can take down a reaper with a car by yourself, so having multiple people shoot at it would cause it to die pretty quick
Except the only people taking down Reapers by themselves were Pilots, not uninteresting bloodsport contestants with more issues than Playboy. Except Revenant, I love Revenant. Having Crypto's sword cut straight through the Reaper's arm makes no sense seeing as the actual thing does 30 dmg per hit, and Loba is just as uninteresting as when she joined the games.
Also the team behind Respawn was the team behind the older CoD games like Modern Warfare I and II. They pitched Titanfall to Activision and got kicked soon after the release of MWII, meaning Activision knew exactly what Respawn would do with EA and the new Titanfall IP. Bobby Kotick basically produced three shitty "Titanfall-like" games that were more popular than Titanfall itself because of the CoD IP and overshadowed the better game. This is one way to explain the commercial failure of Titanfall 1 & 2.
The thing I hate most about apex is that it’s a low effort copy/paste of titanfall. The weapons, abilities, lore, world, characters- all of it. But it is successful because it chased a trend and has micro transactions and a battle pass.
At 1:45, Bangalore's hands would've turned into minced meat and the knife would go straight through her. We are talking about a pilot here. A pilot that can send 80kg man/simulacrum **flying** with a single punch
Things I'd like to point out : 1. Bangalore should have died from being punched by that pilot, as seen in Titanfall, pilots can easily kill another pilot with 1 singular punch or kick. 2.Plus, the pilot should have easily won the fight against Bangalore. Pilots are highly trained supersoldier type dudes. 3. The reaper should have been smaller to represent how they ACTUALLY look, as a reaper (based on my view) is 2-3 feet taller than a pilot. 4. The reaper took a while to start shooting, and it had plenty of time to shoot the other dudes just standing there in a group, and MAY I MENTION, reapers have high mobility and can jump from roof to roof, and I'm surprised it didn't just jump on top of the other legends, crushing them.
In the lore I’m pretty sure Bangalore and Newcastle were both pilots in training like jack cooper was except they never got to pilot a titan like cooper did so it’s pretty reasonable to assume both of them could maybe take down one pilot
My favorite problem is every time TitanFall 2 made a come back respawn would try to redirect the popularity back to apex which has completely different gameplay and lore
I come from the future, and fairs to say that I feel as dead as apex lore. Considering that nothing happened, but that’s okay. The community will always have that titanfall spirit no matter what. And it’s us that’ll revive the universe
1:29 whoever made the decision to launch Titanfall 2, a lesser known shooter, between the two biggest shooter releases of the year, including making it compete with one of their own titles, either wanted Titanfall 2 to fail, or should never ever *ever* be anywhere near marketing decisions ever again.
I would not surprised if all these so called teasers for TF2/TF3 is leading up to a conduit reveal trailer. I mean it was leaked that conduits backstory is part of TF lore
No wall running or double jump and only getting to use grappling hook every 20 or 30 seconds or whatever sucks but i play apex more now because my friends play it but what i really want is a multiplayer Titanfall campaign more than anything.
as a titanfall 2 player, I hate apex cause of it's neutered movement (and don't like brs, but not the point). Every single character has a jumpkit, every single character should have pilot movement.
I don't mind the lore too much. It was just sad to see tf2 being unplayable for almost 2 years, considering Apex just isn't nearly as fun or accessable to less sweaty players
Yeah i hated it when team fortress 2 had bots in most casual servers. Good thing valve actually listened to their playerbase and made it playable again
Simple. Despite having the same "Gunplay", they remove the unique movement mechanics, and the Titans themselves, while also replacing the snappy, fast, exhilarating TTK with bullet sponge, mag dump, "I'm 2 mags in and this guy isn't dead." Taking one of the best shooters and turning it into a worse version of the most generic shit out there.
Its a question as old as time but ultimately. Titanfall fans dislike Apex because originally the game was going to be the Titanfall 3 we all want but then it turned into a Titanfall battle royale and then.. a Hero shooter battle royale staring the Legends I think Titanfall fans also dislike Apex (and Respawn) become Respawn was planning on making a single player Titanfall spinoff but they cancelled it upon the failure of Apex Season 15 so they had to focus all their efforts on fixing Apex with Season 16
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“A pilot can only be stopped by an overwhelming force… or an equal”
Apex devs: Ima pretend I didn’t see that.
I don't know about anything Apex, but those guys who killed that pilot looked like some villagers.
I mean I’m pretty sure Bangalore and Newcastle were pilots in training just like jack cooper but unlike jack they just never got to piloting actual titans so it kinda makes sense that two of them could maybe take down one pilot (if jack can kill multiple highly skilled mercenaries two pilots in training can probably kill a pilot)
@@Borz321they were just some grunts
@@wafflelover5999 new castle even wears the grunt uniform
@@wafflelover5999 in the lore Newcastle has received a pilot certificate and a titan and Bangalore was arguably similar skill level to cooper since she was also a very skilled riflemen, since Newcastle was Bangalore’s brother he did teach her a lot about being a pilot. So yeah I was wrong about Bangalore being a pilot but Newcastle was a pilot so it isn’t impossible that the both of them took out a pilot
Most of us don't _hate_ Apex per se, it's just frustrating that one of the best shooter games, gameplay wise and lore wise, was completely abandoned by the devs, had it's lore and universe gutted, and was basically unplayable due to neglect for the past few years...
...because a battle royale made more money.
also the whole shift to heroes. the latest games in general have been revolving around characters and their 1 dimensional personalities. I hope TF3 still has pilots that aren't character archetypes like legends
i do hate the game. it's horrible the community is as bad as you'd expect from a BR microtransactions are ass legends are ass the whole game leans a lot on real life politics which i despise in games lore is ass ranked has actually devolved since release heirlooms are overpriced which would have have been the only cosmetics worth getting if they weren't more than a triple a game at full price and the game still runs at 24 tick servers for a competitive shooter which just leaves me speechless.
Yeah, but I still hate apex
I just hope we get to play as Cooper in TF|3@@drpepper-c7p
Cause it made money period. I wonder if they'd even still be around if they hadn't made Apex. Maybe the part of the company that made Star Wars games would be all that was left.
i’d love to see TF|3 but i’m kinda worried about how EA will end up handling it.
I doubt EA would have that much involvment tbh. Respawn are basically the sole operators of apex, monetization and all
@@0ri well, they do have shareholders to impress and quotas to hit regardless. If tf3 happens it will almost definitely have apex-level microtransactions, but if it justifies its existence, then whatever. I do hope they at least keep camos as unlockables through gameplay.
I do not care if its as full of microtransactions as battlefield im fine with that its predatory i just dont want them touching the movement
@@orwhynotrandomand this is the one aspect which 100% going to be touched alongside other gameplay decisions. The going to try to pull as many casual as they can therefore this game going to be changed fundamentally it still going to be about movement this I clear but it 100% ain’t going to feel the same. Me as a tf player I want a tf3 but tbh I don’t know if this game is then going to be what tf fans want
same.
Titanfall 2's monetisation system is by far the BEST system ever in a game - you only pay for what you want (camo packs, prime titan skins etc). absolutely NO RNG (advocate gift, yes but you can buy with credits if you REEEAALLLLYYY want the banner/camo/patch etc) or lootbox bs
Apex is basically a gambling sim with the lootbox bs.
The worst Part is that Titan Fall 2 was the most Solid Shooter we have had for years. A game like titanfall is exactly what we needed and still need in gaming. The first one fumbled by not having any story and being exclusive. Most people where still mad about that by the time 2 came out, despite 2 having taken and applied 100% of the critisizm. It was a badass game. I remember playing the Titanfall beta and i will never forget calling down my titan for the very first time and the chills it gave me.
I have a weird pipe dream that someday ALL of the crazy movement shooters would get put into a single game as different Classes.
Ultrakill, Splatoon, Titanfall 2, and Team Fortress 2 somehow all being in the same firefight together and NOT completely breaking balance would be a miracle.
Titanfall 2 is my all time top shooter. But my all time second place is battlefield 1. It sucks that titanfall has been neglected and pushed to the side every day since launch
@@ED-gw9rg Let's never forget Tribes... Able to continuously buildup momentum.
Also, not classes but custom loadout. You can have the ability you want, with the gun you want, with the attachments you want and the tools you want.
Screw the whole specialist / hero stuff we have now.
Shazbot
I still can’t wrap my head fully around why people look at all the movement tricks and genuine badassery of Titanfall and go “naw, I’d rather play a version of this that’s dumbed down where I have to scavenge for guns”
Lol, as someone who has fun with both games, I sort of get this sentiment. However, the main thing that Apex does that appeals to me is increased teamplay. I have a lot more fun playing with friends on Apex as it feels more like an actual team, while in Titanfall, mainly as a pilot, it feels less connected.
@@peamut547 I switched over from playing CS to apex because I wanted a better team experience that is more consistent. That's the magic of apex, and battle royale's as a whole.
@@peamut547except going solo is not fun if you aren't skilled
if TF2 is better why did it underperformed? but guess what apex is gonna be more and more successful than youre shitty ass game
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Even skilled it's boring af
That hacker that destroyed Titanfall depresses me... I can't understand how someone can hate a game like this.
Surely a COD fan who get mad because the initial COD team leave Activision to go to Respawn and create Titanfall
doesnt it have to do with the guy develop(ed)ing his own version of tf1 and not wanting people to play respawns version? maybe i got it wrong, but thats my understanding of it.
well, he butchered the Titanfall servers because "everyone was hacking."
yeah, nah that sounds like a major skill issue to me.
@@joak9755 they didn't leave, they got fired because of a contract saying that as long as they were at infinity ward, royalties and some shits would be theirs
@@joak9755It was members of infinity wars that left.
One of the other lore-related things that really annoys me is how everybody seems to know everybody.
Mirage's mom made the Holo suit, and he's related to the guys from frontier defense, and his brothers died in the war, and Ash made Pathfinder, and Horizon made the time travel device, and Bangalore and Newcastle were going to be pilots, and Viper's daughter, Valkyrie is there, who turned his Titan into a suit with help from Rampart, and Blisk made the Apex Games, and Hammond made Revenant, and I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting, but it just seems like they're trying to make as many callbacks as possible, while also making everyone have history with someone else.
that's like saying everyone in the NBA were friends with each other in second grade, and all just so happened to be professionals at the same sport, at the same time, on the same team. The legends are essentially just athletes, but they're off reassembling robot people with parts from other dimensions, or trying to break into some company to kill another robot.
I realize I'm drifting away from Titanfall lore here, but Respawn is basically doing, "Remember this? Remember them?" and it's annoying...
I disagree with you
I disagree with you@@marquisepixley684
Bro, it’s a work of fiction.
Nah cuz same i agree once i started realizing everyone knows everyone it just started to piss me off. Started to be like a offbrand overwatch story
Fully agree with that
the worst thing I've ever seen is that Bangalore survived a punch from a Pilot
THAT IS STRAIGHT BULL. We know for a fact, and not from just in game mechanics, that Pilots have enough augmented strength to kill with a punch if they wanted to. And Bangalore walked away from that punch like it was nothing
Some part of me wanted a Titan to accidentally step on Bangalore and grind her into meat paste after she survived that bs
@@ironladyerimuth Believe when I say, I wanted her to get nailed by a cloaker pilot using a Kraber so badly.
@@TaniksTheLightbearerayo
@@chunghung7951 It’s not what you think it means-
@@ironladyerimuth cuz she survived a punch????
I like both but seeing them constantly undermine Titanfall hurts. Above all else Pilots should be held to a high regard, Ash should not be this mid.
I mean... to be fair, wraith was meta for a long ass time, and she's one of the few legends who was a pilot. But Apex's lore makes no sense, considering Ash and Revenant should undoubtedly be the deadliest legends, and both were... not great for a long while.
@@gaiusjuliuscaesar9902 Almost like, and bear with me here, its a video game and they need to balance characters rather than being 100% lore accurate in terms of ability
@@masonbartelt9959 As a Team Fortress 2 player who's sick of the community for overly hating on Overwatch unfairly, Titan fall players seem to be just as unberable as those Team Fortress 2 players for doing the same thing against Apex.
@@IgorNetoAnimationit’s not even remotely the same.
@@masonbartelt9959
Oh shit, for real? It's a video game? That's wild.
Most of the hate isnt directed against Apex. Lots of Titanfall players couldnt give two shits about a reaper in an Apex cinematic or a smart pistol not locking on(he was using a Titanfall 1 smart pistol btw, an older model that does have a non-lockon mode). They mostly hate how Respawn treated Titanfall 1 and 2, completely abandoning them in an unplayable state. And then acting like they dont exist except for some nostalgia bait in Apex to get us to buy a skin.
Most of OG respawn behind the creation of Titanfall moved onto other studios. Fanboys are so mad the current puppeteers of this studio are not making tf3, you guys are wishing for another diablo 4, have fun with that.
@@MeatPlanetAw man is that true? What percentage is most?
@@TheSweetTeaGuyNo, it’s not true. I’ve never seen a singe report about this and can’t find one now. Respawn has been a successful studio for a while now with no significant lay-offs or problems. I’m sure some people have left, but certainly not mass attrition like the person has for some reason claimed.
@@MeatPlanetSource or you made it the fk up?
@@Juggs009they did, back in during season 2 or so
Kevin has a few videos about it
There hasnt been a single game that injects pure fast paced movement shooter goodness directly into your frontal lobe since titanfall. No, superglides are not the same
Apex is superior to Titanfall
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340i don't see anyone piloting giant mechs that can violate the Geneva conventions do I?
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340superior at being shit
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340don’t you feel stupid ? Don’t you feel silly? And ashamed?
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 tell that to the microtransactions xD
Little correction on the Sabotage part: Respawn itself insisted on the releases Date and EA actually tried to talk them out of it but respawn don`t listend
This comment has to get more attention. Can't understand how this myth still is told in these days. Sadly it's not just "EA bad, Respawn good".
@anonapache I say both parties are the problem. EA is like a dad and all the companies under its wing is his children, like how a dad influences his children, ea influences the companies they own. Ea is a good publisher when your not owned by them but if you are they start to demand for certain things to be in the game
its simple, Apex is the trend chasing diet coke version of titanfall.
Yup
Two teams fighting each other for points isn't exactly original, either. Let's face it, Titanfall is simple since it is based on COD. Games like Doom Eternal and Ultrakill are the true technical shooters. Titanfall players are at the area where they can boast that they have greater skill than other fps players because multiplayer arena fps is dead. Titanfall is closer to COD than it is to Quake.
@@johncarl5505titan fall isn't an arena shooter though, it's a movement shooter.
@johncarl5505 What? it is a fps movement shooter it's closer to dirty bomb then it is cod. But what does titanfall players talking about skill have do with anything?
@uboa8060 I never said it was an arena fps, I just said it wasn't original. There are more fps games with 2 teams fighting each other than there are battle royales, so it's funny when people call Apex an unoriginal fps and think Titanfall is original. As for the arena fps comment, I'm just pointing out the fact that some people think Titanfall is a hidden gem because of its advanced movement, when there are other fps games with way more technical movement that died as well. There's nothing special about Titanfall.
It’s fine to have characters. It’s fine to give them distinct personalities. Thing is, I don’t want to be a electrician in her 20s with daddy issues. I don’t want to be a quirky engineer, that chews gum, while killing her friends on a daily basis. I want to be a pilot. My personality is my loadout and my mission is to nuke my walking skyscraper in the middle of an active warzone for maximum violation of the geneva conventions
Oh boy do i have a series for you....
Armored Core, trust me.
@@victorykingpin3674 AC6 is something I will play one day. Been enjoying FromSoftwares games for along time and AC6 looks like carnage
@@victorykingpin3674 my brother and I used to rock Nexus Evolution (and Revolution for the bonus content!) back in our Elementary days. My pa got us Shadow of the Colossus but I insisted on playing AC, mechs are just MMPH majestic!
To the new-gens, yes the DLC wasn't bought online and instantly applied back then, get an actual copy of another game then work your ass off to get the cool shit there then play the original disc with a now-updated save file.
Same here, I don't wanna be a dumb tournament league whatever representative, I want to be an actual super soldier who has a big badass Mecha that will fight alongside me and help our Grunt brothers and Spectres across a guns blazin map
Battle Royale is just stupid and bland, no fun in the game at all
I remember convincing my mom to call me in sick to school in middle school because i got into the Titanfall 1 early playtest. I hope there is more Titanfall to be had brothers.
Did u convinced her successfully?
@@dannyluo6635bro he literally opens with the sentence saying "I remember convincing my mom"..
Wait how did you do that?
How can I do that?
@@aviowlbro the playtest is def not still going
@@sleepiestsleepy. well heck
(but really I want to figure out how to do playtests in general)
You also neglected to mention that for a while, Titanfall 2 was also unplayable without the Northstar client and Respawn just stood by for months while focusing on Apex. Which also spurred a bit of a controversy when TF|2 fans hacked Apex servers for a day or two to draw attention to the issue.
World is runned by money, corporations are, so is Respawn, TF2 don't get them any money so why would they work on it when Apex make them rich.
It's sad i know but in the gaming industry we often forgot the second word, industry, would you work for free, cuz i don't ? (Heck maybe even at loose)
@@theomerlo9633 for many of those devs, it’s about passion. They could do a lot more with their experience, but they choose to make games. It wouldn’t kill Respawn to at least do the bare minimum to protect the game that made them what they are. But they all but abandoned Titanfall, and the idea on which Respawn was founded after they split from activision.
I guess the ppl that made respawn understood that if you don't do money with your company, you're basically dead @@VIIIrats
@@VIIIrats Yeah? I wonder how many of the people at respawn now were part of the respawn that made TF1/2. I'd wager not a lot. I'm sure there are a lot of employees at this company who see Apex as their baby and TF as the thing done by the guy they replaced.
unfortunately northstar is unplayable becuase it's full of troons like yourself
For me, Apex Legends is just official fanfiction
Couldn't agree more
"see these dopey idiots slowly running around and unable to wall run, yeah their as good as pilots"
Apex dumbs down the whole setting.
@@alphadeltaroflcoptersince when were the outlands most elite gladiators dopey idiots?
Wattpad level writing but yeah
Logic, writing isn't the point of the game @@doubledekercouch
A reaper is meant to be like a mini titan. A grunt seeing a reaper would either run or give up, AS IF a group of kids with rough childhoods could kill or beat a reaper.
They defeated it with the power of trauma friendship!!1!
valks rockets cluched
@@smilyfacedsharma8322valks rockets can't even kill a player tho lol
Like when reapers spawn and start moving around the grunts are programmed to run away or when you aim a titan gun at a grunt they cower in fear on the ground.
@@pandaell1029ngl I feel bad for the grunts until they hit me while I'm running around
And also let's not forget when some people in a desperate try to get Respawn's attention to the Titanfall 2 DDOS problem, ended up hacking Apex. And Respawn was like:
"Lol what a weird hack XD. You can play Apex again everyone"
I don't hate Apex. I hate Respawn lack of care to the franchise that lead to Apex.
Also how tf Titanfall 2 got a dub in my language and Apex existing for years no? wth
Yea I remember that all too fuckin well, reason why I hate all you TF2 players, the loud minority…
"I hate Respawn lack of care to the franchise that lead to Apex."
What does this mean?
@@gnxrly He hate Respawn for ignoring the Titanfall 2 DDOS problem, but when Apex was hacked, it was fixed quickly
I think "who lead to Apex" was better.
Feel free to correct me im trying to learn
@@eduardoc439 Actually, they were correct. "that" in this context refers to the lack of care from Respawn, not Respawn itself.
Hope this helps.
It's more baffling because Bangalore was a grunt. The storm troopers of Titanfall. Although she was elite, the pilot wouldn't have just let her counter him.
Also surprised that his Titan didn't just turn her and her annoying ass sibling into meat paste.
@@ironladyerimuth "well because Main Character can't die-"
You know that Bangalore and Newcastle are certified IMC Titan pilots, right?
@@KirbsFan321 I actually never knew that, I swear they where Just like a high ranking IMC grunts but thanks for letting me know. Ive not really heard anything about them being pilots but the animation still doesent make much sense.
@@zkakproductions2049 They aren't certified, They both went through the IMC's military academy as a top performers, and Bangalore got absolutely dumpstered by a Militia pilot and nearly died but thanks to her brother, her sorry ass got saved. Neither of them are actually certified to be pilots, maybe, and this is a HUGE maybe Newcastle is, but Bangalore? Fuck no.
We need this game. I hope EA doesn't screw it over like last time
I mean respawn made Jedi Fallen Order and Survivor so it seems like Respawn so far hasn't been fully tainted yet even though technically EA was behind Survivors rocky start
EA is just a sponsor to titanfall respawn are the ones made it
Just cause ea has their name slapped on it doesn't mean the game will be p2w
@onionman5484 I mean release date not pay to win. TITANFALL2 was never pay to win.
@@XD-Intrepidfor once ea wasn't the reason, ea told respawn to hold off releasing titanfall until battlefield and cod hype died down to maximise sales, respawn released it anyway
I find it ironic that it takes multiple legends to take down the reaper when I can do it in like less than 10 seconds all by my lonesome as a pilot in TF2 and they want to pretend pilots wouldn’t wipe the floor with the legends.
Maggie surviving three point-blank TICK explosions is giga levels of plot armor.
It takes less than a full mag from the R-101 to kill a Reaper, and yet in Apex Legends it takes multiple Magazines from the R-302 to kill some skinny rich kid with robot legs and Pilot Stim? God Apex is stupid...
@@ironladyerimuthya and a pilot dies to one like the legends would be dead a long time ago if they didn't have plot armor
@@that_1one_kobold844 not the R302, it's the R301 🤣🤣
it didnt advance that much, just the hundreds, no units
if being a half-life fan has taught me anything, it's expect nothing and and hope. i really hope TF|3 happens but i'm not expecting much on the 27th. would love to be proven wrong about this
Being Team Fortress fan as well :((
Its the source engine curse
Never 3
Only two there are, no more , no less.
Imma adopt that phylosophy too. Expect nothing and just hope
I still can't get over the fact that the reaper in the Kill Code 3 video literally punches one of the Legends in the face full force and the guy just shakes his head and sits up like he slipped and bumped his head on a table.
meanwhile a single reaper in TF2 wrecking your titan 100 to 20 in 5 seconds.
Getting one shot killed by the gun on those things.
When in Titanfall 2, getting caught slipping by a Reaper as a Pilot means you bolt as fast as you can before they rip your head off, or if you're in a Titan, you kill it as fast as possible before they drop you from full to Doomed in like 5 seconds.
if respawn releases a trailer and i see "APEX 2" in that goddamn apex font i will have an aneurism right then and there
@Jdub0126 Okay good for you, you responded to a year-old comment with something pointless, bravo.
@Jdub0126 Call me SIR peasant, get it right wench.
Pathetic how they didn’t even mention the anniversary of titanfall 2 on social media despite all the effort they put into the game recentlyy
How do they fuck up the viper death lore TWICE. The skin says lost in space, the background art is on a planet...
The fuck??
Apex Legends.
Remember that weapon called the ark that can blow up planets. Imma let you put two and two together.
Based pfp.
The writers for apex aren't the ones who wrote titanfall, because of this the titanfall community will never accept apex or its lore.
Ok but it still took 6 legends over 2 minutes to take it down. One pilot with no AT can do it in under a minute under similar battle conditions.
Pilot > legend and no one can convince me otherwise
@@cgaming1107 Based on what?
@@kvrmv4k476the fact that pilots are vastly superior in every way to every legend
@@kvrmv4k476 The games?
@@kvrmv4k476 I mean, pilots one-shot grunts(normal people) by punching them, +they are way more durable than humans AFAIR
I really hope Titanfall 3 is an entire game of an old Jack Cooper going and hunting down all of Apex
I can't even trust Respawn not to have Jack get absolutely folded for no reason through Apex's plot armor
@@ironladyerimuth Part of me almost doesn't want to see BT and Cooper again out of fear of what nu-respawn would do to the characters. We've already seen what nu-respawn does when they do bring out anything TF related and it is very consistent track record of mud dragging.
We all know if he does return their going to us Valkyrie to trie to fold him
Valk is gonna cave in Cooper's head with a golf club
I can’t see how they can win when cooper was already an outstanding pilot without full training, he’ll certainly get more training and experience. I hope we get some random bs like bt teleported to another universe where apex legends doesn’t exist and jack follows (ending scene morse code message)
As an Apex Fan, I personally really love Titanfall. I have zero issues with TF fans too. I’ve been unlucky enough to have met nothing but toxic players when playing the game but it’s more of the “Suck it noob,” try hard sort of toxic and not the “I hate Apex,” toxic.
But the community on Reddit is really sweet and the very few times I got onto a none toxic server all the people on there were chill and were actively trying to help me figure out the movement. But yeah I have zero issues, I understand the jealousy and hate towards the Apex community from TF fans, but Apex is the reason why I fell in love with Titanfall. I also really want to try TF1.
It all depends on the gun you use
@@burglovesdmr What would you recommend?
@@adventurekitty101 volt, r97, any pistol, any shotgun, lstar, any sniper, r201/r101, flatline
@@adventurekitty101 or just whatever you want
People are playing TF2 like it's Apex and bruh, dealing with people using A-Wall and sitting in buildings is making me sad. ITS A MOVEMENT SHOOTER 😭
Came across an entire team in boomtown with Awalls and spitfires and cars. Our team just quit and went back to matchmaking lol. I only got a few hours a day to game, I ain't got time for that.
They really ought to have had A wall be Mobile like with the grunts in the campaign. Remove the amp make amp a pilot ability or something.
@@achair7265 That's a thing, it's called hardcover and it's a boost card
@@RustyShackleford556 But it's not mobile it's just like the A wall, also a very very niche boost. They could switch it. Then make the particle wall mobile like with grunts.
@@achair7265 Wait, it doesn't? I've never used it lol
Titanfall fans hate apex fans because imagine if the doctors stopped performing surgery on your child because someone else just walked in with a twisted ankle.
It’s because Apex is a lesser version of Titanfall in every single way. Everything from the titans to the movement system to the gameplay that made Titanfall great is completely gone or reduced to the point of being unnoticeable. Apex is a soulless cash grab of a game with a nothingburger story and COD like gameplay all packed into a boring arena shooter. And what’s worse is instead of just letting apex be it’s own thing they insist on doing all these silly callbacks and references to draw in or pander to the Titanfall crowd but the issue is I want Titanfall not a mediocre arena shooter with a bunch of references to Titanfall.
"to the movement system" in this thread: titanfall fans not having a single clue how the fuck apex works
say it once, ill say it again, titanfall's movem,ent is really slick and clean, but yall saying apex movement is ass just shows none of yall played apex.
YES i am an apex player but YES i did play titanfall. it's fucking sick. but only one of these games is not fucking dead
@@yurilopes420 I’ve played both and objectively Titanfall has the better movement system. It is fast paced, clean and smooth allowing me to go flying thru the map like greased lightning. Meanwhile Apex is none of those when it comes to its movement system, in Apex even on mobility focused Legends like Octane I’m out here foot slogging it across the map like some Grunt.
Apex flatout has a much less fluid style of movement, even at its best it is worse than Titanfall. When I play a game in that universe I want to play it being able to jump around like a frog on meth, not an elderly bulldog on dental anesthetic.
And Titanfall 2 isn’t dead because people stopped playing it, it’s dead because the team behind it were told to start working on what would eventually become Apex.
@@yurilopes420 There is a film here on RUclips called "A love letter to Titanfall movement system".
Try to do even half of the things shown there in Apex.
You won't
Apex feels like Titanfall in molasses.
My issue is with Apex compared to Titanfall is the movement. The feel of aiming and the way sliding works is recognizable but you're so much slower it just feels so neutered when you know what movement can be in the engine. Like why do I have to be stuck in the mud, walking around like a mortal man when I should be wallrunning at 100 mph and barely touching the ground. Theres probably a balance explanation for this but that doesn't really matter to me, if the game needs to be less fun to work then I'm not interested.
That's how exactly how I feel. I hate how in titanfall 2 the meta is roof camping with an SMG, it makes outplaying a lot harder and less fun because I can't just bounce around a person or his teammates will all target you on a roof. it was never this bad at least on PC. On console is still the same SMG and movement is meta.
@@robotface42Oi haven't play titanfall well i did once,after returning to apex i was like danm im slow
thats literally a skill issue and thats when i think titanfall players just talk out their asses
i never played titanfall at the time but its legit my fav fps that i never played
having said that, apex is definitely not a "im stretching through the mud at a snail's pace". that's what it is when you're trash
the difference of titanfall and apex is, titanfall has hard baked EXTREMELY fun mechanics like wallrunning the titans and shit. apex is a way more organic game in which most mechanics (movement mechanics in this case) came from trial and error and abusing the game's engine and it's limitations
we dont have wallrunning but we have wallbouncing, which i think most players would agree it's objectively more skill expressive
we dont have all that speed and shit but you have momentum conservation, and wallbouncing, into a perfect ledge dash, into a slope, jumping tapstrafe, etc, you can cross like half the map extremely quickly
again, im not on some "apex > titanfall" bullshit, but yall using arguments that are literally just wrong. apex IS slower than titanfall but it's not like m2 compared to fucking infinite warfare. it's just a little bit slow, and it's not even THAT slow granted you know what the fuck you're doing
@yurilopes420 You apex players are annoying. You left over 20 comments defending this awful trash of a game. And the use of emojies too...my gosh. No one takes you seriously.
I'm so glad Apex is getting mostly negative on screen. Hope it stays that way too.
The movement of apex legends is a joke compared to TF2. I just watched a vid on wall-bouncing...I'll take frame perfect wall hops to gain ludicrous speed over that any day. Write all the books you want, preface everything you say with "most gamers agree" even but this fortnite pig slop speaks for itself.
People want a serious deep and dark story, but instead they get colorful clowns that kind of look like something you flush down the toilet.
Because it is the reason why there's no Titanfall 3
Fuckin battle royals are a plague.
that is objectively wrong
titanfall didnt make any money. they wouldnt give it up and go to apex if it gave money. yall dont seem to have common sense
TF3 would NEVER have existed in this world granted titanfall 2 was as big of a flop as it was
also what the fuck does the genre battle royale have anything to do with anything lmao
@@yurilopes420 The main reason of TF2 never making money is the release date.
I interviewed a former EA marketing employee and he said that EA and respawn were discussing wherher to release TF2 in feb or oct and they chose october
they had one job
@@xdom3641 the guy I interviewed also said he was on the side of releasing the game in feb. imagine a world where TF was released on its own where it could become the best fps of all time
@@Shigzmi maybe then I would have heard of it several years earlier and would have been playing it much longer. I only discovered it after apex came out, and now it's replaced apex for me for about a year
I feel like I recall seeing somewhere that it was Respawn’s decision too.
That's why it's a conspiracy. Could EA make Respawn release TF|2 in October? Probably, but every info we have points to Respawn wanting to release the game in October.
Why did T2 have to get mugged in a back alley and shot three times in the head, twice in the chest, and five times in the nuts. Yet Apex is swaddled like a newborn.
My toxic trait is becoming a fan of franchises that drag my respect through the mud (halo, Destiny, titanfall)
I mean, it's pretty simple. The reason we didn't get more support for titanfall 2 was because they were busy working on Apex. The reason we didn't get a titanfall 3 till maybe now is because of apex.
Titanfall used to be a space western with semi hard sci fi aspects. Now we have people with magic powers and using black holes to generate energy. Fuck APEX.
I hate Apex because, simply put, it isn’t very good to begin with, and the fact that it comes off the heels of Titanfall 2 is insulting
Everything about Apex is just a neutered version of Titanfall. Less movement options, less customization, no titans, no campaign, no characters that you even want to try to care about, and a “story” that is built entirely off of reveal trailers rather than gameplay, and even then, the lore of Apex is disjointed and inconsistent as it, at times, directly contradicts the lore of Titanfall, making it feel even more insulting
Titanfall is better in every single way, and it feels awful knowing that EA and Respawn stopped caring about it for so long
Not only is Apex a HORRIBLE game, it’s fucking insulting. It feels like EA wanted Titanfall to fail without realizing why people actually like it
The lore of Apex is also extremely tame, where is Titanfall is a bit darker. Don't get me wrong its not Spec Ops The Line, but in Apex Legends, the Apex Predators (I hesitate to even call them that) look like a bunch of social media influencers.
In Titanfall, the (real) Apex Predators were cutting the ears off of corpses to make "trophies", they're supposed to be violent war criminals.
@@declanjones8888 EXACTLY! It's almost insulting to hear Respawn say "Titanfall is the core of our DNA" when they water it down to fit it into Apex. What sucks is that Apex could've been truly great, because a game that centers itself around a faction of war criminals and exiles could be legitimately amazing. Could it have been better than Titanfall? Maybe. A lot of core aspects of Titanfall (and especially the grittiness of Titanfall 1) would've fit so well in that kind of game, but it feels like they just wanted to make it safe for new players during the BR craze
I can't deny that it worked at least in terms of sales, but I would've loved to see what this game COULD be, rather than what it became
I'm currently no contact with one of my oldest friends because he told me that "Apex legends is better then Titanfall ever was and that I need to get guuuud" on a battle Royale game where everyone uses the exact same "meta" to win
You are aware that almost all shooters have a meta right
@@raymondtomas2294 dont tell him about people wanting to win 🤣🤣
as if there is no meta in titanfall, there's legit a dude up there saying "i got into a lobby in TF2 where the whole enemy team had spitfires and car's behind Awalls camping".... yeah imagine that, people tryharding in a fun game😂😂
Honestly for me it really just came down to the movement. Titanfall 2 has some of my favorite movement mechanics in any game. When apex came out I was excited to see maybe a new and further developed form of that same movement system. Instead I felt slow and clunky while playing and even reintroduced mechanics like the grappling hook felt weak compared to what they once were
For real. And what's sad, they could have offered a truly unique BR gaming experience that would have been exclusive to Apex. It could have been fights built in a city map designed to support wall running or we could have been in a training facility, even one of those virtual simulation things they had back in TF2. It could have been that but instead they went with the "appeal to a younger audience" play.
@@sanjidandelioni think apex does enough to set itself apart, i mean its the only relevant game that is a hero shooter in the br genre.
and for your second statement about "appealing to a younger audience" doesnt hold up very well since basically every squad i find are at least 16-mid 20's and up. of course there are exceptions but unless the average 'gamer' age suddenly jumped to 30 or 40 i wouldnt say it appealed to younger audiences i.e squeakers/fortnite kids.
i imagine you say this because of how the game is more colorful and is more light hearted than your usual darker toned, grey, green, and brown color palette games but to call it sad is a bit of an exaggeration.
That's interesting because coming from Fortnite and Warzone Apex felt incredibly smooth
@@harmoencompared to them definitely, but it was still a horrendous movement nerf compared to titanfall 2
@harmoen obviously, compared to those games yeah. But it's no where near what it used to be.
As someone who loves both Apex and Titanfall, fuck Apex
Titanfall 2 is a highly underrated gem. If they were to bother to give a damn about Titanfall 3, they'd have an instant hit, given how everyone I speak to on the matter says "Titanfall 3 yes, Apex Legends no". Hell, a couple friends and I still hop into Frontier Defense from time to time. I'd personally like a TF3 as I never got into the MP of the second, like I did with the first. Still a blast though. And gahd dayum, that campaign was amazing. Short, but oh so sweet/tender.
I don’t think Titanfall fans hate apex I think they just hate the thought of what apex could’ve been , also the reaper thing is true , those things would’ve destroyed the legends in close range combat
Its really just so sad how much EA mistreats it’s own titles, just as Titanfall is being fixed, the damn pvz shooter franchise is becoming unplayable on pc from hackers banning people
Respawn/EA: we saw you throwing rocks at apex fans again
Titanfall fans: why do they get to have all the fun??
imagine a parallel universe where titanfall 2 didn't got released between bf and cod
A long Grrt video is always hype!
imagine you are your parents favorite son and full of potential . until suddenly your parents stop supporting you to allocate all of their resource to your younger brother because he is following a trend better (BR)
If this whole buildup is just cooper being added to apex and not TF|3 I will commit a hate crime
My god I didn’t know this was a possibility but after reading I second this
Apex is like the devs OC in the titanfall universe. If you really follow the lore, yes, pilots die a lot during a conflict, but they don't die to grunts like Bangalore and New Castle. It's implied they followed pilot training, but they obviously failed since they were grunts💀
Halo,Titanfall,Half-life,Team Fortress,
Only a list of games that may never be at their primes again😔
Big off
Oi keep Half-life out of this, Half-life 3 will come out!
Someday...
Someday....
Someday.....
someday..
The curse of the Source engine i guess
As someone who's never played a TF game, seeing how strong the TF fanbase and how RSPN is fixing TF2 makes me hope that the fanbase get a new game because I'm a huge fan of the Mirror's Edge franchise and DICE has basically given up on it and its died which is sad because it's my favourite game, so it's nice to see another franchise get fixes and a new game hopefully greenlit in the future because It makes the players happy!
apex is titanfall with less movment options
@@suop5252 Worse guns too, the weaponry in Titanfall 2 don't feel like nerf guns.
@@suop5252 apex has a LOT of movement tricks, but most of them are based around firefights whereas most of the tech in tf|2 was developed for speedrunning
@@lizabeth529 the tech wasn't "developed" for speedrunning, they have been discovered because of speedrunning,
TF2's movement was made based on older shooters, and it shows, devs were allowed to make maps like crazy, and have an inhouse poll on which maps were the best to play around in, which makes it gameplay first and everything else second, the best method of making maps for a pvp mode.
apex's entire system of engagement is the same as any other br, rng based lootdrops with areas of better rng, making them more sought after by the skilled players, followed by time to recover and get ready for the next firefight.
TF2 is just> ME GO NYOOOM AND SHOOT 24/7 with movement tech and weapon skills integrated
We really need a "casualties of EA" support group.
Smart Pistol just had "Modern World Update" so it doesn't shoot certain skin colours
weee wuz keeeengz broooh!!!
cant shoot the keengz
bro i swear i will find those people who says "Titanfall stole from Apex"...
also, yea as a titanfall player, i can confirm
I'm burnt out on most PVP games these days, but Titanfall 2 is just so beautiful in motion that it's still great to play. There's always something going on
I can't really hate on Apex... it brought me into Titanfall xD
I’ve been seeing people with 100 wins and zero kills please tell me your doing good in the game. Also TF2 or 1
@@jonharrison3114I am atleast, and I barely have 100hrs in the game, I’ve carried a few games too lol, I think I have like a 1.5K/D? Although it prob doesn’t mean much
@@stormbreaker504 just have fun
@@stormbreaker504meh, kills mean nothing if you just run CAR and stim all day, I once got satchelled to oblivion by a guy running at 50 mph, doing those kinds of goofy stuffs are the best way to enjoy the game imo.
@@jonharrison3114 yeah I have fun I play holo/volt, like doing a lil trolling with holo if I dont send it the same direction I’m going which will get me killed
3:56 and also the fact that maybe...
The entire planet blew up? With Viper right next to the detonation?
Oh yeah that did happen!
Also I don't like how Apex Legends says the Frontier Militia win the war, because....... reasons.
How did they win? Last time we checked out, the FM weren't exactly doing grand.
Apex robbed us Titanfall 2 fans from ever getting titanfall 3…
i played Apex first and when i heard Titanfall 2 5 dollars sale back in 2020, i bought it and the movement blew my mind away. The movement is so quick and crazy but the gun is made to be more accurate to compensate the movement so you can kill enemies why flying like spiderman.
after that i just cannot came back to Apex knowing that the movement is just mid and Mozambique and CAR is deadly in Titanfall 2, unlike in Apex. And even if i played Apex again the only character I play is Pathfinder because of grappling hook.
Oh, and where's my Legion titan in Apex? Nowhere? I mean who doesn't love a giant robot with flappy ass and a giant minigun?
Legion is peak
"car is deadly in titanfall unlike in apex", well that's really fair, in apex you have to *hit your shots*
As someone who got into gaming bc of titanfall on xbox one its sad to see it get neglected by its parents 😢
Why does EA not want to make history? It's like they don't see the potential Financial boom that's going to happen when they just ANNOUNCE the development of the next game
Apex was going to be what the community and devs wanted, but EA made it for what was trendy at the time.
I just imagine that in a different timeline EA released TF|2 at a good time and it just ruled the gaming industry and became the “main trend” game
Ea had no say in apex though when titanfall 3 was development, respawn told them to trust them when they were making a BR because PUBG was trending at the time and they felt confident about it
Too bad. Would rather have a trendy ip that sets respawn up for years rather than have tf dead and forgotten
@@52Blaster BRs were almost out of trend at the time, and apex is definitely not going to last the 20 year lifespan EA wants from it
@@Changingtesting "almost out of trend" apex Fortnite and wz hit multiple peaks after lol
The thing about Titanfall 3 being a thing is I highly doubt Respawn can manage both Apex and TF3 without something bad happening
Here's my guess: They are going to release Titanfall 3 as... "Apex Legends 2: Titanfall 3". For kicker, they are going to force updates so all Titanfall become subtitle.
Reason we hate Apex is cuz it’s bootleg titanfall that shouldn’t even be in the same universe and TITANFALL 3 GIVE IT TO US
Ah yes 2 grunts killing a pilot that makes total sense
Maybe that pilot was the one random you find that just stands there in the open.
@@Streetcleanergaming a soldier cant kill a pilot.
Couldn't of said it better myself. The point of view of a Titanfall fan is very well explained to someone who may not understand. Good video.
In short: apex gets the unearned spotlight and Respawn/EA have the audacity to use titanfall to bring clout to apex ( which imo we wont get a titanfall 3 and all of this is some hype to put more content on apex )
Btw EA wanted Titanfall 3, respawn worked on it for 10 months then decided to make it a battle royal without EA's permission. This was confirmed by the head developer of the time (it's some Arabic name I can't remember) as a Titanfall fan this is super sad.
i dont care if it has a battle pass, i don't care if it has a battle royale mode, I don't care if it has predatory monetization. just give us good movement and giant robots in a simple arena style shooter and the people will be happy
seeing a legend take down a pilot has the same vibe as watching someone's self-insert OC beat goku
Tried to play Apex with Titanfall and Titanfall 2 in mind. The movement is so stale compared to Titanfall 2. Bring an Apex only player into Titanfall 2 multiplayer and watch them get wiped constantly.
The movement before release was much more faster, they purposefully nerfed it for whatever reason it is, probably to shape it into a less coherent game than what it used to be, then dump millions of micro transactions and get endless recolors to launder in money, basically their marketing strategy at this point.
i play both but apex is only fun when me/my team actually understand what we're doing
It would be a good idea if 10 apex players and 10 titan fall players fought each other
I wouldn't be surprised if EA actually did the occasional small thing to intentionally piss off Titanfall fans. As they say, any publicity is good publicity.
That bangalore thing was like a spartan from halo being killed by a unfc soldier in the same way.
2:11 honestly the reaper seemed fine in kill code part 3, you can take down a reaper with a car by yourself, so having multiple people shoot at it would cause it to die pretty quick
Surviving 3 tick explosion right Infront of you was absolutely terrible though
Except the only people taking down Reapers by themselves were Pilots, not uninteresting bloodsport contestants with more issues than Playboy. Except Revenant, I love Revenant.
Having Crypto's sword cut straight through the Reaper's arm makes no sense seeing as the actual thing does 30 dmg per hit, and Loba is just as uninteresting as when she joined the games.
@@ironladyerimuth revenant best character 😊
@@ironladyerimuth i am not gonna fucking complain about the reapers getting weaker
Volt does it best. Any energy projectile like weapon can take it down with ease.
Also the team behind Respawn was the team behind the older CoD games like Modern Warfare I and II. They pitched Titanfall to Activision and got kicked soon after the release of MWII, meaning Activision knew exactly what Respawn would do with EA and the new Titanfall IP. Bobby Kotick basically produced three shitty "Titanfall-like" games that were more popular than Titanfall itself because of the CoD IP and overshadowed the better game. This is one way to explain the commercial failure of Titanfall 1 & 2.
The thing I hate most about apex is that it’s a low effort copy/paste of titanfall. The weapons, abilities, lore, world, characters- all of it. But it is successful because it chased a trend and has micro transactions and a battle pass.
You are wrong
At 1:45, Bangalore's hands would've turned into minced meat and the knife would go straight through her.
We are talking about a pilot here. A pilot that can send 80kg man/simulacrum **flying** with a single punch
Things I'd like to point out :
1. Bangalore should have died from being punched by that pilot, as seen in Titanfall, pilots can easily kill another pilot with 1 singular punch or kick.
2.Plus, the pilot should have easily won the fight against Bangalore. Pilots are highly trained supersoldier type dudes.
3. The reaper should have been smaller to represent how they ACTUALLY look, as a reaper (based on my view) is 2-3 feet taller than a pilot.
4. The reaper took a while to start shooting, and it had plenty of time to shoot the other dudes just standing there in a group, and MAY I MENTION, reapers have high mobility and can jump from roof to roof, and I'm surprised it didn't just jump on top of the other legends, crushing them.
In the lore I’m pretty sure Bangalore and Newcastle were both pilots in training like jack cooper was except they never got to pilot a titan like cooper did so it’s pretty reasonable to assume both of them could maybe take down one pilot
Yk that feeling when you’re jumping on a trampoline but when you get off and try to jump it feels like you’re wearing iron boots? That’s apex
My favorite problem is every time TitanFall 2 made a come back respawn would try to redirect the popularity back to apex which has completely different gameplay and lore
“Why do Titanfall fans & Apex fans hate each other?”
I’m a fan of both. I like Apex but I NEEEED Titanfall 3 to be more than just a dream
I come from the future, and fairs to say that I feel as dead as apex lore. Considering that nothing happened, but that’s okay. The community will always have that titanfall spirit no matter what. And it’s us that’ll revive the universe
1:29 whoever made the decision to launch Titanfall 2, a lesser known shooter, between the two biggest shooter releases of the year, including making it compete with one of their own titles, either wanted Titanfall 2 to fail, or should never ever *ever* be anywhere near marketing decisions ever again.
I would not surprised if all these so called teasers for TF2/TF3 is leading up to a conduit reveal trailer. I mean it was leaked that conduits backstory is part of TF lore
When we're too uses to being disappointed with titanfall related content being used to bring attention to apex
Guess you weren’t suprised
You also forgot to mention that the intro in apex shows the wrong kind of pilot it shows a holo pilot using invisibility instead of the cloak pilot
No wall running or double jump and only getting to use grappling hook every 20 or 30 seconds or whatever sucks but i play apex more now because my friends play it but what i really want is a multiplayer Titanfall campaign more than anything.
as a titanfall 2 player, I hate apex cause of it's neutered movement (and don't like brs, but not the point). Every single character has a jumpkit, every single character should have pilot movement.
RIP slidehopping
I agree. The selling point of TF1 & TF2 was the fast paced action, and Apex pretty much butchered it.
I don't mind the lore too much. It was just sad to see tf2 being unplayable for almost 2 years, considering Apex just isn't nearly as fun or accessable to less sweaty players
Yeah i hated it when team fortress 2 had bots in most casual servers. Good thing valve actually listened to their playerbase and made it playable again
I think he ment titanfall 2, but still a valid point.
Simple. Despite having the same "Gunplay", they remove the unique movement mechanics, and the Titans themselves, while also replacing the snappy, fast, exhilarating TTK with bullet sponge, mag dump, "I'm 2 mags in and this guy isn't dead." Taking one of the best shooters and turning it into a worse version of the most generic shit out there.
Its a question as old as time but ultimately.
Titanfall fans dislike Apex because originally the game was going to be the Titanfall 3 we all want but then it turned into a Titanfall battle royale and then.. a Hero shooter battle royale staring the Legends
I think Titanfall fans also dislike Apex (and Respawn) become Respawn was planning on making a single player Titanfall spinoff but they cancelled it upon the failure of Apex Season 15 so they had to focus all their efforts on fixing Apex with Season 16