5 Fighters who could DEFEAT The Mountain & 5 who Can't | Part 1/3
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
- We revisit episode 1 of 5 people who could DEFEAT The Mountain and expand upon the reasons for who could defeat the mountain whilst adding 5 more people who couldn't.
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• 5 people who could DEF...
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• 5 Warriors *YOU* Think...
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• 5 more Fighters Who *C...
Contents
00:00 Intro
00:55 Fighter 1
02:36 Fighter 2
05:53 Fighter 3
07:18 Fighter 4
09:54 Fighter 5
12:24 Fighter 6
13:22 Fighter 7
15:06 Fighter 8
16:31 Fighter 9
18:22 Im sick of this guy
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Oberyn won the fight in every meaning, he only failed to live long enough to appreciate his multifaceted victory.
Literal defeat of the Mountain? Check.
Got the confession? Check.
Tywin was implicated as having order the atrocities? *Oh yeah, that’s a check*
My head theory is that Howland was actually a savant of combat, he just doesn’t like to show off. Hence why those squires are Harrenhal beat him up-he didn’t feel like thrashing three dumb teenagers that day and so took mercy. Lyanna understandably misunderstood the situation and thus hijinks ensued.
bro , red viper almost win the battle it was plot armor of mountain who saved him
it doesnt matter if you are 8 ft or 10 ft tall if a spear penetrate your chest and pulled out by the style oberyn did you are dead instantly , battle between them is purely unscientific and fictional
I don't think that Arthur even died and the only way I can see Howland winning a fight is with poison darts. I think Dayne is alive and is masquerading as Mance Rayder. (I go with the theory that Jon is actually Ned and Ashara Dayne's kid.) Jon is a very good fighter, so good that he fights three vs one as a training exercise. But when he fights Mance (who is masquerading as the Lord of Bones) Mance absolutely beats him six ways to Sunday with almost 0 effort. And what weapon was he using when he fought Jon? A Greatsword.
@@mayanksharma7255never underestimate adrenaline, rage, and the need for tyrion to be exiled out of westeros to help the targaryns retake the throne.
LOL, love it! Oberyn completely destroyed the Mountain..... easily.
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Honestly what would realistically make the mountain terrifying is that the most reliable way to beat plate is to grapple, and who in their right mind would wrestle the mountain.
Bobby, Sandor and Greatjon are the only guys who could do it i think, and they are definitely the underdog in that tussle! And you are right! This is why people like even Dayne and Jaime have to be careful, the go to way to beat Gregors armor is off the table! Thanks for watching My lord of Spud! Liam
I don't think grappling is the standard way to defeat anybody with a sword in their hand
@coryb8432 A sword can't cut through armor, one of the most common methods was to enter a grapple and use a dagger to find a gap in the armor, watch actual armored sparring and you'll realize most of the time it turns into a wrestling match, just with knives.
This is why in the past I have said that realistically nobody beats Gregor. In the setting of ASOIAF, sure. But not if this took place in our world. You basically can't beat plate armor without use of a dagger in between the weak spots (See Netflix's The King for a good example of this in fiction) or something like an ice pick or billhook rammed between the vitals. I've also done HEMA, and my past experience in Judo and BJJ made me absolutely dominate people that were far better at the actual fencing bit than I was just because all I had to do was deflect one attack to get into grappling range where I could treat them like babies. That grappling threat is real, and grappling always favors the bigger man.
Now it is firmly established that Gregor isn't unskilled or stupid. He's heinous beyond words, but not ignorant. He knows the weakness of armor. He knows the weakness of his weapon. His fight IQ isn't even trash. His skill isn't nothing, it's just quite basic. But a man with basic skill who has downright superhuman strength and stands 8ft tall at 400+lbs? Unbeatable in plate armor. You'd have to get within his range, and he'd rip you limb from limb if you do. The only ones who could win or at least hold their own are, as Liam suggested above, possibly Sandor and the Greatjon. Even Bobby B wouldn't considering he was ''only'' 6'6 himself and therefore just not enough of a physical match. People really underestimate how much size matters. 20lbs of a physical disparity is already massive in a fight. Most boxing weightclasses go by 4-8lbs. Most MMA ones go by 10lbs. Imagine a disparity of what, 200lbs? And that's assuming guys like Jaime or Dayne are 200lbs, which we don't actually know. 200lbs is already a big man. But for reference, the difference in size between someone of 200lbs against The Mountain is the equivalent of putting Jake Paul up against Brian Shaw. Even though Shaw is less skilled, he'd rip him apart effortlessly just based on size.
Realistically if you had to grapple The Mountain, you're dead. And realistically, you do. That's why this is basically impossible. The sole exception would be some giant with a polearm (like Greatjon Umber maybe), or someone of almost equal size but superior skill, stamina and speed. There's only one guy like that, and that's The Hound.
@TheStraightestWhitest Honestly I think the best comparison would be Mike Tyson in our world. The strategy for beating both is the same, wear them down and play for time, but for both that is a task much easier said than done, because one small mistake and it is over. The only way I could see someone who isn't some legendary warrior beating him is though asymmetrical tactics, and that isn't really an option in an official duel, aside from grabbing a bow and praying for a lucky shot.
I would have to believe that the Mountain would not even see Jaqen Hgar coming....
Dead before he realised he was in trouble
Jaquen could kill Gregor no problem. I just don't think he could beat him in a fair fight 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips hard to say since we never really get to watch him fight but it seems he had a knowledge of poisons not unlike Oberyn, being from Bravos I’d expect he’s familiar with Water Dancing, maybe even proficient in it, likely killed a water dancer or two in his day. Given the skill his pupil demonstrated, the blonde girl (I’d say she’s on par with or close to any of Oberyns daughters) it might be safe to say depending on his weapon of choice that he could have what it takes to get the W… that said he did end up in a cage that one time…
@@spindoggytheexplorer2915 you don't think he was in the cage on purpose? He knew Arya was going to be there, and he was going to recruit her
Jonas Slyness’s friends In a duel?
@@chrishansen4691 agreed I think he planned to be in the cage, I don’t see it likely that he was captured unwillingly
One thing I would've loved to have seen: The Mountain on the battlefield rather than a duel. Just standing 1-3 feet over everyone else, sweeping through helpless footmen multiple at a time.
Oh, and show us a damn manticore
One advantage Sandor has: He's been preparing for this fight with his brother for most of his life, while Gregor is very likely to underestimate him because means older brothers ALWAYS do when it comes to their siblings.
Sandor for certain has been taking mental notes and has been looking for weaknesses
Imo Barric was sent instead of Loris because he's way more expendable. Losing the Tyrell boy would've been awful for the capital
Too bad the budget never allowed for that Randy, would have been pretty awesome to see why he's one of the most feared me in Westeros. The massacring of the unarmed prisoners just can't compare! Thanks for watchings matey! Liam
The Mountain and soldiers of the like are not used in the battlefield for the same reason that Bears and (lol) Elephants aren't. One exceptionally valid soldier/unit, in reality, whoever he is, is never more than 4 or 5 spear strikes (if surrounded, that's NOTHING, milliseconds on a battlefield) from death at any time. General rule being importance = value = keep them behind. The exceptions to the rule are those who're strategizing (Robb, Jon in BOTB at first) at the back, leading and commanding. If your commander/lead officer is fighting in the melee, you're either desperate or making a mistake. I have no doubts Tywin especially knew The Mountain was best used at tournaments and as a feared commander where his fear factor was more useful than his actual potential kill count on a battlefield.
This is literally why Oniondad shits the bed when Jon REEEEEE charges after Rickon gets converted into 100 experience points by Ramsay.
4:00 there’s also the possibility that jamie, thinking ned actually killed dayne in a fair fight, had high expectations for him and was disappointed by ned’s lack of skill compared do dayne and himself
Someone else pointed this out to me, its honestly a very interesting speculation! Ethier way, Ned was not getting the upper hand like many like to think! Thanks for watching! Liam
Thats what I thought. Jamie had such admiration for Ser Arthur that he probably expected Ned to be incredibly skilled.
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Jaime losing his smile in the show was exactly how you explained it. He thought it was going to be easy, and Ned knew it was gonna be tough. Therefore Ned tries his hardest all the way through and at the end after he sees Jaime losing his smile he smiles, cause he is proud of how long he lasted and that he managed to, at least a little bit, humble that arrogant brat. But that didn't mean he was a threat to Jaime. Jaime knew he couldn't be holding back anymore and had to end it quick. A theory I also once had is that he didn't lose his smile because Ned proved to be better than Jaime thought, but worse. At this point Jaime thinks Ned defeated Arthur Dayne, but while duelling him he sees that Ned was too bad to acomplish that. He is starting to catch on that something was off about that story. I don't it is true, but It could be another way to look at this fight.
Hey Hubert! Nice to see us find some common ground!that's a very interesting way to veiw the fight actually, lost his smile because Ned wasn't worthy in the slightest. Ethier way one thing is for sure, Ned ain't beating Jaime, Dayne or Gregor on even ground! Thanks for watching mate! Liam
I'll be honest i don't think that's what that means
in both shows and books nobody knows how Ned killed Dayne
Jaime should have expected at least that much
that being said i do think Jaime would have won with low risks of losing
unless Howland was hiding somewhere in Kingslanding 😂
if Howland Reed was around the corner lurking then Jaime would have died with 2 hands like his idol did definitely a death he would accept
@@TheFandomeClips Hey a Video where I agree with the Robert placement. Good Job.
@@TheFandomeClipsNed is more like Tywin Lannister and Randyll Tarly in the Books, a competent enough warrior in his own but a good General, he realised Tywins plan of forcing the river lords to divide their forces to protect every keep and village something which even skilled commanders like Jason Mallister didn't get
It’s weird - I always took that loss of smile at the pressing of swords to be Jaime realizing that Ned was physically stronger, which he didn’t think he was, and recalculating how to win with pure skill since he seemed to notice Ned could overpower him if he let him…
My money is on Karl Tanner, da fookin' leyend of Gin Alley
No one can take on the Tan Man and live to tell the tale!
Another point against Beric is that he wasn't sent to hunt down the Mountain because Ned considered him a better fighter. Ser Loras was easily the better fighter, but Ned chose Beric believing that Loras was wanting revenge instead of justice, insulting the Knight of Flowers in the process.
Beric was smart enough to seek the aid of Thoros and Anguy because they respectively won the melee and archery tourneys.
If Ned had tasked Ser Loras with hunting down the Mountain, Loras would have been far more cunning in who he asked to help him hunt down the Mountain. Yes, Thoros and Anguy were tourney champions. However, Loras would have wanted the aid of someone who he knew already stood up to the Mountain, and that is the Hound.
This would have also created a pretext for Loras to ride into the Kingswood and bring news of the Mountain's raiding to King Robert (possibly preventing his death). Loras would have retained command of the host to hunt down the Mountain, but would have been able to recruit Sandor Clegane and even Ser Barristan Selmy.
Seven Hells, it would give Robert a chance to get off his butt and hunt the most dangerous game (man) rather than a white stag or regicidal boar.
Imagine! Would've been awesome...I still believe that Cersi would try to kill king Robert somehow.
Its shocking to think why more warriors don't use maces or War-Hammers in Westeros considering Plate Armour is so common, no wonder King Bobby B. steamrolled everyone he's the only fighter with a functioning brain in Westeros. Just imagine The Mountain with a giant War-Hammer, honestly with his size & strength plus every idiot is wearing Plate Armour he'd crush them in a single hit & might actually be the deadliest fighter in Westeros.
Thats why Bobby got number 1 in our fighters video, he has common sense 😂 The Mountain with a warhammer or mace is a terrifying prospect, he becomes nigh on unbeatable, even to a fighter like Robert where his sole winning move is his weapon trumps Gregors. Thanks for watching my crazy hat wearing friend! Liam
Gendry the Blacksmith made a fine mace/ great club ..the best weapon against plate was called ' Bek du Corbin ' - curved like bird of prey's beak , piercing deep into plate.
well in history knights used swords for cutting down the common folks and would typically avoid each other, the cases of knights really trying to end each other in war are very rare considering the raw number of battles of the centuries very few noble knights ever died. Cowards really, and in dueling tournaments they also did not used weapons that were anti armor as they did not want to cause other knights to die or die themselves.
Lots of people use hammers and maces or axes.
@@xomox5316 Exactly this. Knights usually slaughtered their way through peasants while on horseback. At my university in Marburg (Germany) we had a hilarious picture in the royal hall of the founder heroically slaughtering away at under-equipped commoners.
And at least here in Germany in the dark ages you had to use a sword in "official" duels and plate armor and helmets were forbidden. In later centuries you could use other weapons, but they always had to be the same for both combatants.
Arya: “Can you bring back a man without a head?”
Awww, you are such a cute silly kid.
Good old Thoros. Hes that kind old Uncle that doesn't want to tell you the bad news, but knows noone else will if he doesn't. Thanks for watching! Liam
I think Qyburn can, in the books...
I reckon the Half-Hand could beat him.
He was toying with Jon Snow, and killed Wildlings for fun. Like Tormund said to Jon;
_"He killed men, many times your size."_
He's top tier.
There's a theory that he's actually Dayne, though personally I think that might be bollocks 😂 but yeah the Half Hand shouldn't be written off that's for sure! Thanks for watching Lonestar! Liam
@@TheFandomeClipsMance is Dayne, Qhorin is Oswell Whent, Tormund is Hightower. It is known.
To be fair jon is not an outstanding fighter (and still suffering from a hand injury at that time), but Qhorin definitely would have been interesting
@@fabianbinder3681 It is known.
I have one thing to say about Sandor Clegane beating the Mountain in a fight: Yarp!
YARP! Thanks for watching! Liam
This is a classic. Almost as classic as Oberyn's head popping like an egg while Indira Varma delivers the performance of a lifetime, one so good it literally made D&D write her into more of the show than they had planned.
If only they had afforded Ian McElhinney's Barristan the same luxury...
Thanks man! Yeah killing Barristan in the manner they did was and still is one of the biggest crimes ever put to screen 😂😂 Thanks for tuning in as always man! Liam
Belwas is definitely more skilled than the Mountain, but there is no way he beats him. One of the biggest factors being Belwas uses a weapon that wouldn't be able to do anything against Gregor's insane amount of armor.
Thats the issue, that and Belwas OCD rule about getting cut and his lack of armor. People really sleep on the Mountain, hes quite literally one of the deadliest people in Thrones, even for the greats like Jaime, Dayne and Bobby. Its same for Drogo, nothing against their skills, its their toolkits that hurt their chances :/ thanks for watching Eli! Liam
I hope we get a chance to see Robert in his prime especially since he’s the only character we ever hear about using a war hammer instead of a sword as his main choice of weapon. Imagine if the Mountain had a war hammer everyone would be dead one hit and your chest is caved in. Never stop the love for old Bobby B he may not have been a good king but he was a damn good commander.
We love Bobby and I hope we get to see him in his prime also, but yeah a warhammer in Greg's hands is an extremely scary thought 😳 thanks for watching! Liam
Ned is probably a pretty good horse rider. Him on a horse, with a lance, might be a challenge. His quest for revenge got the best of him.
Ned? want to check that source because I think the opposite is true. his sister and Brandon though were. As were Dominic Bolton
@@davidlewis5312 Domeric is Ned's nephew. He's Brandon's son. All of the Starks were good horsemen so why wouldnt Ned have been? He would have been ahorse for a lot longer than Brandon and Lyanna, right?
@@keirangrant1607check your facts bud Ned Stark is a human, not a horse
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Lyanna was so good she was considered half horse. Just the fact Ned was a northern nobel means he's at least decent. And if he's half as good as his sister he's probably top 10% alive
@@josephpotter7776 Lyanna was almost certainly a warg - perhaps unconsciously - with her animal being horses.
I know the red wedding was the big shock episode for most, but I’ll never forget how surprised and gutted I was when oberyn died.
I think with The Red Wedding you can kind of see that Robbs mistakes lead to it. With Oberyn the guy did pretty much everything right, he fought the hardest fight of his life and took all the correct steps and then for the lack of a tiny bit of emotional control he lost, I agree with you, its way more of a gut punch 👊 :( thanks for watching Rozza! Liam
Agreed. Oberon was one of Dorne's best. The Red Vipers Spear with its reach and poisoned blade should have won him victory..but he got overconfident and too close to a monster of a man. Excellent performance from Pedro Pascal
Drogo would have a good chance. Light on armor, yes, but he is fast for his size. There is a world where he could cut the mountain down, slash by slash. Cut to the knee, you get it 😉
Great video as always btw, I'll admit, you are right about Vic.
See we think Drogo is screwed, we addressed why in part 2. He is 1000000 percent the better fighter, but his tool kit is just completely countered by Gregors, not impossible for everyone's favourite Khal to win but not likely ethier in our opinion. Take away Gregors armor though and I could see Drogo going 10/10 all day 😂 it would be sport for him Thanks for watching Seldo! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips That's fair. Cheers for the reply!
@@TheFandomeClips yeah slashing curved swords, light spears, and daggers aren't going to win that fight unless he gets very very lucky with a throwing attack. On horse?
10 to 1 for Drogo
on foot?
not so much
He gets absolutely destroyed. No armor and shit weapons to combat armor. This means he has to get in close with his daggers. Get in close against a guy 1,5ft taller and like 150lbs heavier and vastly stronger than him. He'd get Oberyn'd.
@@TheFandomeClips If you think Drogo couldn't then you would also conclude that the Viper couldn't, by the same logic. My money is on Theon though, fast and with armor-penetrating arrows, It doesn't matter who if you can incapacitate his legs, then the same fighter can stop the long arms and then finish the neck, head or chest.
The narrator to easily dismisses the skills that only age can build. The most skilled swordsman I ever met was Rodney Omoto Sensei, 9th Dan Kendo instructor. He was 74 when I sparred with him, and watched him walk through 20 young men during a aikiken seminar. When asked what he was currently working on he replied, " I'm learning to become invisible." His swordwork was sublime. 30 years later I Am still learning from those three days with him.
Be wary of old people in lines of work where people either die young or get out in middle age.
That said, I think any highly-skilled fighter has a *chance* against the Mountain. The problem would be the same as Oberyn's: you need to do everything right. The Mountain, with his size and armor, can take a lot of hits. And if you give him one opening, he will fuck you the fuck up. It's like rolling dice: you need to roll ten dice without rolling a one once.
Okay, but what about Twenty of the House of Goodmen? He was all Ramsay needed to basically cripple Stannis army in the show, so he must be one beast of a fighter
Dam I wish we had enough fuel for another vid, some of these joke suggestions are bloody quality 😂 yours included Random! Thanks for watching! Liam
Sir Twenty of House Goodmen would absolutely dominate The Large Natural Elevation Of The Earth's Surface Rising Abruptly From The Surrounding Level.
@@TheStraightestWhitest idk if he would be knighted tbh, thats uncommon for northerners, after all. Perhaps his disgraced younger brother Ten was knighted at one point in time though, as he seems to have worked as a sellsword based on the fact Bronn mentioned him and seemed to praise his skill.
@@randomstuff6355 Yeah Bronn praising Sir Ten speaks highly of his skill. House Goodmen simply has the best one man armies.
Didn't GRRM say that had Selmy wielded a valyrian blade he wound have been equal to dayne? Goes to show how good selmy was/is
We've got a video coming up on this very topic my friend! Stay tuned! And yeah Barristan is a beast! Thanks for watching! Liam
Fighter number 1 who can defeat the mountain- a healthy Eddie Hall
Fighter number 1 who can't defeat the mountain - an unhealthy Eddie Hall
A DEHYDRATED Edie Hall would have no chance for sure
Eddie Hall on cranberry juice would curb The Mountain. Eddie Hall when dehydrated gets mogged.
501>500
Well the Mountain won the boxing though
You forgot patch face. last thing the mountain would hear is I know, I know, oh, oh, oh.😂
Patchface=Nightmare fuel
I love your editing, commentary, insight and sense of humor. Good job, and keep feeding us until Winds of Winter 😎
Thanks Coatap! We'll certainly do our best, but if its till winds arrives we're going to be at it a while 😂 thanks for watching! Liam
Here's a fight that should be be talked about Dario vs Oberyn or Bronn.
I think Oberyn takes it. Dario and Bronn fight dirty to compensate for their short comings. Oberyn fights dirty more as a cherry on top of his status as one of the best warriors alive at the time.
Thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips Yeah I'll give you that, maybe Dario vs Bronn would be a better matchup instead.
@@The-Black-Death Daario is a showboater while Bronn is extremely practical. I think Daario is more skilled but loses half the time anyways because of unforced errors
@@The-Black-Death That’d be a fight! As slick as Bronn can be Dario conducts himself much better in every fight, Bronn appears to struggle but perseveres against even the most basic of opponents very often where as Dario handles multiple people at once with ease regularly. Even beating both of his Second Son comrades at the same time (though we don’t get to see it) my money is on Dario.
Jaime's sword bending like it was rubber cracks me every time
Its interesting, there are quite a few that would have a good chance of beating him. Although, one thing that stood out was how unorthadox Oberyn needed to be to beat him. Would a traditional knight with a traditional game plan (regardless of skill) have had a chance? I'm genuinely not sure. Guys like Jaime and Barristan that are noted for their ability maybe, but I really struggle with Ned, and IMO the Hound would have struggled too, you make the point about the bigger brute with Victarian, so I think the same reasoning stands on why he'd struggle against his brother.
If Oberyn didn't have the spear he would have had much more trouble
Oh I see, so you’ll de-age Bobby B but not our boy Barristan 🥹
Barristan is still a badass as a Grandpa and could still bring Gregor down even with his arthritis (he's that much of a beast) Bobby.....................not so much 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClipsmaybe not like a cake, but certainly like one of those big ‘stand’ pork pies nomnomnom
Selmy vs. Bobby B, both in prime, now… oh my… be still my heart…
@@TP1988 that did happen on the trident if i am not mistaken, and Barry lost.
would have been epic to watch
@@PablitaOrtega77 NOOOOOOOOOO BARRY CAN NEVER LOSE, I SIMPLY SHAN’T BELIEVE THIS REALITY
@@TP1988 he did wound Robert pretty badly; and gaines his respect
Man at this point there’s gotta be only a handful of characters who lives far before the main story who could take the big guy down. If you circled back around to some Star Wars or Harry Potter ones that would be pretty dope. Great video as always guys.
Thanks SW danger! We can't do Luke vs Luke because I hear theirs a collab in the works, but I'm keen to take a crack at Palpatine! Thanks for watching! Lian
@@TheFandomeClips An extended remake of the Palpatine video would be awesome! That collaboration sounds like it will be a banger 👀.
Gotta look elsewhere for worthy opponents.
Batman vs. The Mountain. Robocop vs. The Mountain. The Scarlet Pimpernel vs. The Mountain. Bugs Bunny vs. The Mountain. Johnny Lawrence vs. The Mountain. Ken Griffey Jr. vs. The Mountain.
Damn... your channel is like watching fantasy from an MMA commentary perspective.
Props❤
Thanks Ish! Funny you should say that, Thom used to work for MMA related channels and ive dabbled in the sport myself. We can only really do it with thrones because it holds to real world combat principles but we both get a kick out of it! Thanks for the kind words! Liam
Kyburns new giant crossbow to the chest. You don't fight this guy up close. You kill him from a distance. Or John Snow brings in his giant. Giant hits him with a rock.
We did Wun Wun in part 3, he's definitely a safe bet lol 😆
Oberyn with no emotion is literally top 3 fighters of GOT. In a trial by combat setting.
Absolutely. Give him prep and he's the westeros answer to Batman! Thanks for watching as always Diaz! Liam
@@TheFandomeClipsLOL!!!
Why dont we craft a HUGE sword and a HUGE armor and give it to one of the giants, then let him 1v1 Gregor.
We would get regular mountain vs mount everest.
If it wasn't for Sandor needing the poetic justice I would have been very happy at Gregors fate been killed by an actual giant, would have been very poetic! Thanks for watching! Liam
Longswords were actually quite good Vs plate armor, which is why knights carried them. A knight wouldn't swing at another knight with a longsword, he would thrust at any weak spots in his opponents armor
Entertaining as always. Good thing this show, well the books are so layered. There's so much content to tackle.
That there is though I think we're at that point where we've kicked this topic to death and spat on the corpse 😂 thanksnfor stopping by as always Trey! Liam
I think you are forgetting about Victarion's magic super strong Lava hand, and the fact that he might be a Fire wight too, maybe actually dying from the infection and being resurrected by Moqorro instead of saved.
Maybe but without confirmation for his wight status, Greg's sword will bash him to death all the same 😂 his black hand is interesting but I can't see Vic getting close enough to give Gregor a good hard punch or grab him without getting his neck snapped. 8ft tall and 400 pounds, I don't think even Vic would be brave enough to tey and fisty cuffs that 😂 thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips It seems to have some super-powered death grip that does some very Gregor-level power things when he lifts a guy up Jason Vorhees style and crushes his neck with his burning hand.
Talking about Ice people frequently over estimate how heavy swords are. Ice would weigh about 4-5 lbs at the very most and likely less than because of the materials. The primary reason swords of that size wernt used often is not because they’re unwieldy it was because they were always more effective reach weapons available, and swords were primarily carried as a side arm. If you’re already carrying a halberd you wouldn’t also need to carry a great sword etc.
Oh I've done HEMA I know what we call a greatsword or warsword isn't as heavy as people think. If you listen to that section you'll notice the audio has been cut and stitched together. Thats because Thom for some reason decided to cut out my HEMA rant about how greatswords are a touch more unwieldy than a longsword due to their size and how they build more momentum in the swing but they do move quick once you get them going and aren't as heavy as people think but it's a bit harder to change direction or stop mid swing than a longsword (thats my personal experience of them) , but I made a point about the size of Ice. Its a whooping big Greatsword...... even by greatsword standards (this bit was obviously cut) . Only one sword is described as bigger in the entire series and its Greatjons (A guy who is 7ft tall and from the description of how wide he is might be built even bigger than Gregor Clegaine). That section orginally had me basically saying Ice would be unwieldy to Ned because its not made for someone his size and is more suited to someone like Gregor, Greatjon, Sandor and maybe Bobby B to wield with finesse. I don't blame Thom though, I'm guessing that section messed with the flow and pace of the video, but yeah it leaves me with egg on my face a little 😂
Thanks for watching and sharing your insights Patric! Liam
so i got a questions for you guys if you could build a kings guard with any characters who would your 7 be ? also if you want a more challenging question. who would be your kings guard per kingdom like for the north you can only pick northmen , or for the reach you can only pick reachmen.
Oh easy, Sandor, Oberyn, Bobby, Selmy, Dayne, Ned and Tyrion. (No Jaime because if I want to blow up Kings landing its my bloody right as king to do so!!!)
I think with those 7 you've got a good mix of fighting skills, a poison expert and two who bring other skills like intelligence. They're all staunchly loyal too so you could trust them to have you back!
The other question I'd have to get back to you that takes a lot more thought! Thanks for watching! Liam
id go with selmy as commander sandor, brienne, dayne for skill, kevin lannister( not as smart as tyrion not as good as jamie but a just and honest man that can play the game if needed) then give me stannis the mannis not only for his duty to the realm but he also bring navel knowledge to the table.(im not picking bobby b not cause he a good fighter but his lust and love of drink does not make a good king guard, and my last pick wan wan his leadership + giant make a deadlly combo and being part of the free folk he would know how the lowest of the low think@@TheFandomeClips
A lot of this is why I'm not a big fan of small fighters taking out much larger opponents in movies, especially those of comparable experience. The big guy only really needs one good hit to put the smaller fighter on their heels. The smaller guy needs to be near perfect. Give me something like the plane fight in Raiders of the Lost Ark where Indy only "won" because the other guy didn't pay attention to the propellor.
Yeah a lot of people seem to have thos delusion that big equals slow and there for a smaller guy can dance around them. I always point to that friendly spar between the actor who plays the Mountain and Connor Mcgregor. One is a barely trained fighter whose just got a big size advantage and the other is Connor mcgregor. And whats funny about that fight is the Mountain actor is going out of his way not to hurt Connor and he's still pressuring a life long martial artist. Thanks for watching again Carl! Liam
@11:56 There are multiple historical examples in the books (Fire and Blood, A World of Ice and Fire, etc.) of warriors wielding Valyrian Steel swords loosing to warriors with regular swords, either due to the latter having a physical or skill advantage, the former being tired from battle and/or wounded, or both. And those examples we know actually happened due to the Valyrian Steel swords changing ownership as result of their former owner's death. These seem a lot less plausible if we are to believe that Valyrian Steel can just no-sell any normal sword or armor it hits, so it's very likely that Fandome is right about this.
Thanks Damien! Yeah it seems to be a myth perpetuated by Briennes feats with oath keeper, what I don't think people realise is Brienne didn't cut through that sword and armor because she had a magic sword, she did it because she's bonkers strong and a crazy talented warrior! Thanks for watching! Liam
Excellent video! Well done!
I don’t know if the scene is the same in the book, but if that guy with the spear didn’t have a personal grudge against the Mountain, that fight would have just been a complete and methodical ass kicking that was over in mere seconds.
Oberyn trashes the Mountain in the books too Matt! He just goes about it a little differently. In the show he's dancing around Gregor like a jedi from star wars. In the books he's a lot more cautious, keeping his distance and biding his time. Its very tense in the books because the mountain isn't quite as clumsy, he's actually pretty skilled which makes for a much more nerve racking fight. Oberyn still kicks his ass though! Thanks for watching Matt! Liam
I know, for the OG ASOIAF fans, Robert Baratheon has a special place in ours hearts. If we ever get a TV series adaptation of Robert's rebellion, who do you think should play Robert Baratheon? I go with Chris hemsworth.
Its got to be someone likable and charismatic (that was as big a reason he won the war as much as his fighting skills were)
Hemsworth is a great shout if he can do the accent! I'm a stickler of accents 😂
I do hope if we do get a prequel that we get to see the darker side of Robert too though, you can't win every battle and war as a whole by playing nice and honorable all the time.
Thanks for watching! Liam
Small thing about Dayne, I believe in the books Dawn is a two handed great sword which would probably be better than a long sword for fighting Gregor. Obviously you guys already have him winning so it doesn’t affect the outcome you came to but I think it’s notable. Love the content, keep it up!
I always see Dawn as on the smaller end of Greatswords due to Dayne using it in his everyday knighting duties which always has me referring to it as a longsword 😂 anything that puts more distance between you and Greg is never a bad thing though! Thanks for the kind words SteveBob! Liam
A longsword is a two-handed sword. Not a greatsword, but a two-hander for sure.
Always nice when I see you put out a new video, the more I thought on Ned the more I think he was great when he was young and the reason he survived the war but with the death of his brother needed to put down the sword and pick up the quill to become a decent lord and an honourable man (great as a knight but easy to push around in castle politics) I'm looking forward to the how they could win the Game of thrones detailed remakes, got to wonder if you will try hard mode and come up with a Greyjoy victory scenario?
Hey Kyle great to see you as always man! Thom has the Gregjoy challenge in the works 😂 on his head be it 😂 yeah people crap on Ned and I think its unfair, he may not be top tier but he was clearly very good! Thanks for watching as always! Liam
Authur Dayne (Greatsword dawn and fully armored) vs Deamon Targaryen (Dark Sister and fully armored) who yall got
Honestly ethier has it. The best of one era is often comparable to the best of another (especially since i don't think PEDs are a thing in Westeros 😂) and both are held up as two of the greatest warriors of their day. Id give the slightest edge to Dayne since he's got the longer weapon but thats the only solid advantage etheir has. Both have magical swords and so far we only know Dawn is comparable to Vsteel so they've got equal arms until we see Dawn do something crazy. Thats my two cents!
@@TheFandomeClips what about aemon the dragon knight vs dayne or gregor?
You forgot about who actually had the highest kill count by exponential levels- Arya!😄💪🏻🤘🏻
Maybe a video on GOT characters who had the potential to become great warriors if they more time and experience to mature their skills, like Gendry or Jon snow
Love the idea! Ill pass it on to Thom! Thanks for watching August! Liam
Sandoq the shadow cold have beaten Gregor if they were living at the same time. He was like The Mountain that rides with the skill and dirtyness of Bron
I always picture him as the best bits of Gregor and Drogo combined for what I've read. SCARY. FUCKING. GUY 😂 thanks for watching! Liam
There are only two types of good fighters: the 'cheese' one and the 'git gud' one.
Basically a hollow one from Darksouls
Great video like always
Thanks Connor! Great to see in the comments as always! Liam
Hard disagree on show Ned.
People want him to be more of a leader than a fighter because it compliments his character (and he may well be in the books) but based on its own content, show Ned is not an above average fighter - he is a freaking excellent fighter.
Barristan (and I think Jaime too?) says he saw Ned at the Trident and Siege of Pike slay “a dozen great knights” and fight like a hero.
Then an aged and out of his prime Ned holds his own against a young and in his prime Jaime.
Then a young and prime Ned easily defeats one kings guard at the Tower of Joy and holds his own for a long time against the single greatest swordsman of all time in the show - Dayne. The men who went with Ned to the Tower were not average fighters - they were elite, experienced, trained nobles. The Kings Guard who Ned easily killed was not an average fighter, he was an elite, top 20 fighter in the kingdom.
These are not feats of an above average fighter, this is categorically a top 10-15 fighter in the kingdom arguably top 3-7. Again, I get that we don’t want Ned to be this awesome but it’s time to look at facts and admit the show isn’t the books.
John is an above average fighter. Jorah is an above average fighter. Tormond is an above average fighter. Show Ned is elite to the level of standing his ground against the GOAT and easily defeating the hand picked top 5 knight in the kingdom (kings guard).
There’s a part in the books that’s also in the show when the mountain is trying to kill Lora’s Sandor and Gregor are have a mini dual. I believe the POV is Sansa I could be wrong but it shows how during that little squabble the mountain was literally trying to kill sandor but the hound was just turning his blows and had many opening to kill him but never took them. I think the show displays this when sandor goes from parrying to doing his cool bow move while evading the mountains swing at his head. I think he’d be better than Jaime, Selmy, and Dayne at killing him simply because he still has the size and strength coupled with skill
Another cool video idea may be this: if the Targaryens never showed up or didn’t have dragons, which house would’ve had the best chance to conquer Westeros?
Great idea 💡 👍 and I've added it to our list of potential ideas! Thanks for watching! Liam
I'd imagine... none, at least not without some plot advantage on par with dragons. At the time of the conquest, house Hoare was on a bit of an expansionist streak, having previously conquered most of the Riverlands and some of the Stormlands, and were working on a giant castle from which they could go up against the rest, but it's doubtful if that could have succeeded even if the Targaryens hadn't melted Harrenhall. But I think it would be likely that should Hoare had tried to move on the North, for example, Durrandon and/or Lannister would have taken advantage and tried to move on them.
We're forgetting my boy Drogo here. Yes it is true that he does not wear armor, but with the untouchable speed that he demonstrated and the strength comparable to that of the Mountain, for me a sure winner
He’s actually in part 2… - Thom
100% sure Ned would be using the same Gambeson he always wears, with slightly added protection maybe.. and a longsword, not his valyrian or any two-hander. Haven't read the books but it seemed to me he was two-hand wielding his longsword during the Jaime fight, and he might actually opt for a (long)sword +shield combo when given the chance.
So with medium armour, single longsword or sword+shield, his above average shown + hidden unshown potential, and his mental composure and steel resolve in situations that matter, i'd bet on him to win for sure.
I don't think I'm wrong in calling this perhaps the most popular and hotly-debated topic you ever talk about 😏
We just can't escape the evil black hearted bastard Jeremy my man! I think people just like to envison him dying to so many different characters in so many different painful ways 😂 thanks for watching as always matey! Liam
My sugestions of Fighters who could:
1 Barristan Selmy at his prime.
2 Euron Greyjoy (books version)
3 Ser Duncan the Tall
4 sandoq the shadow
5 Areo Hotah
Selmy was Number 1 in P3 buddy! I'm not sure about Euron, but the rest yeah I wouldn't write them off thats for sure! Thanks for watching! Liam
Duncan the Tall and Areo Hotah would have the size to match him.
Fantastic video, and I agree with almost all of your points. The only thing is we know in the books Dawn is a greatsword, not a longsword. I know the show has him wielding a one handed sword. But that was just one of many stupid things they did in that show..
Also since Martin said that Robert's warhammer replica is accurate. The dude is superhumanly strong. So ya he pastes the mountains guts with a single hit. Warriors from other franchises who can beat the Mountain you say? I've got two. Conan the Cimmerian (The story version. In certain stories he wears full plate and wields a greatsword in one hand.) And Wulfgar from the Drizzt series. The man has a massive warhammer and is nearly seven feet tall.
Aye we've got a video planned on Dawn, I really need to stop referring to it as a longsword 😂 though if I wanted to be "that guy" I'm always lambasting, I could point out Greatsword isn't a historical term, its just used to describe a LONGSWORD that comes up to between the elbows and armpits of its user, so ner ner 😂 of course I'm kidding mate! Those picks sound great 👍 I think we'll probably try LOTR vs the mountain before we attack more obscure warriors! Thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips If we are talking Lotr, I'd say Helm Hammerhand probably can. And Elendil as Elindel is also like 7ft tall and wielding a legendary sword. Elindil probably can win with superior skill, and closer stats of reach and strength.
@@crazyscotsman9327 Elindil took down Sauron alongside Gil Galad. I think after the magical beings like wizards, OP elfs and Balrogs he would be the safest bet you can make!
Could Isildur's father Elendil or Aragorn son of Arathorn the second from Lord of the rings beat the mountain (Elendil due to his height He was known as the greatest warrior of all the Dúnedain and the sword Narsil) and Aragorn did show great feats during the war of the ring in single combat and pitched battles
We'll have a go at LOTR vs the Mountain one day matey! Liam
I'd say so. Anduril cuts through even plated armor from what we've seen. Aragorns also far more experience and is touted as one of the best fighters on humanities side during the Lord of The Rings.
Gregor mainly would be like fight another strong Urukai but with more Armor.
Aragorn has canonical super human strength, speed, stamina and absurd experience.
His battle IQ is also something else.
Aragorn would win, if he sees someone like the mountain he would be cautious and develop a plan very fast.
Plus he sparred with elfes which we know have insane speed.
Legolas literally dodged arrows.
Aragorn is no joke
My list of CAN in their prime (in no particular order):
Oberyn
Dayne
Bobby B
Brienne
Sandor
Wun-Wun
Jamie
Selmy
The Duo of Berric & Thoros might not, but the TEAM of the Brotherhood without Banners would smoke him if they caught him on his own. The Huntsman could sick the dogs on him, You got Zombie, Sword Sponge Beric, along with Thoros swinging 2 flaming swords, 2 Big guys, in Greenbeard and Lem, that could strike blows that might have some effect, along with Tom who could harass him with throwing knives while Anguy sniped the gaps in his armor with his bow
I'd actually put safe money on the Duo with just Anguy supporting them, that dude makes Robin Hood look like a bitch 😂 thanks for watching!Liam
Anyone notice the bent sword in E stark hand 3:46 fighting Jamie, looks exactly like the flaming bent sword at 8:30 haha. Weird.
God can move mountains, allegedly
Sir Davos. He would have just gone into a uplifting monologue and the mountain would just commit suicide with an eye stab.
Also, if Jaime had a moderately sized blade affixed to his stump, rather than that awful hand, he’d have remained a deadly opponent.
He’d be able to take advantage of his superior natural speed, strength, and coordination, rather than constantly trying to fight with his off hand.
Of course, he’d be unable to walk around all day with a long sword attached to his arm, but he could switch out a smaller blade, for everyday, and just use a larger one for battles and duels.
You could make some kind of socket / brace for a blade extending from Jamie's arm. Trouble is, it's a fixed weapon. Might not work due to lack of flexibility. Maybe Jamie could practice and adapt?
One thing you do have to remember is that Dawn is a Greatsword in the books, I don’t know if this would be a good or a bad thing in this fight.
Oh its a good thing, anything that puts distance between you and Greg is never a bad thing. I don't think Dawn is an overly large Greatsword though just from the descriptions of it, so i reckon is pretty quick! Thanks for watching Gladiator! Liam
One ned does have battle prowess that followed him he was in Robert rebellion. Also great swords typically are only about 8 pounds if Valyrian steel is lighter than normal we can assume 5 to 6 pounds. Definitely a lot more wield able. If we lean heavy into the fantasy aspect it could be lighter. Like a heavy longsword.
I’m a huge fan of Ned but still feel like you didn’t give him justice.
I feel like he could’ve beat Jamie to a stalemate.
haters gonna hate on Bobbie B but the man was so good he won himself the iron throne. who was the last guy to do that before him? aegon the conqueror with three frickin dragons.
The Hound, Ser Jaime, Oberyn, possibly Ser Loras and Ser Barristan. Additionally, possibly Bronn. Jaqen Hgar is a good shout though.
The only thing that I will give to Ned Stark (not being in his prime necessary but being younger helps) is that with ICE, is that Valyrian swords can (not always) cut thru "regular" swords. So ICE with NO shield and light armor (if the mountain hits you with or without armor, you are going down), trying to wear down the mountain then going going for an Achilles... I give him a punchers chance. He's "battle" experienced and knows that the point is to survive, not look pretty. I believe he told Jaime as much. Other than that set-up/mentality Ned is going down, I agree.
Robert Baratheon in his prime? THAT would be a good solid fight. Again, not every shot has to be a headshot. A blow to the knee, to hobble someone gives you a GREAT advantage. Harder for the Mountain, since he is so tall (but not slow) to get a "low" blow in.
If in his prime talk... Ser Barristan Selmy? Another guy with a GOOD punchers chance.
Bronn has a small chance, but still a chance.
A question that is only half in jest, could drogon defeat the mountain in a trial by combat?
We’ve already seen that the man won’t spare animals…. Like his poor horse
Pretty sure Drogon will eat Greg for dinner and still have room for desert 😂
If it somehow was a hand to hand fight and the mountain wasnt in his armor I think Strong Belwas would win.
Of course thats taking away half of what makes the mountain so tough to beat in the first place and not really taking away much from Strong.
I'd say that's the case for a lot of fighters, what makes greg so dangerous is he has insane reach combined with insane defense, take that armor away and fighters like Drogo, Syrio, Brienne and Blewas start looking a look more favourable! Thabks for watching berzerk! Liam
Just an idea for a video, maybe the best warriors past and present from each kingdom. I think that would cover some history and different ideas people might like. Thanks enjoying your content
Hey my saintly friend! Thanks for the kind words 🙏 we've done best warriors in westeros so far, but we've got best warriors across the seas and outside westeros in the works and we'll be doing the HOTD era when we've got more footage and we'll eventually cap it off with a greatest of all time! So stay tuned! Thanks for watching! Liam
as they say a good big man will always beat a good little man
Pitting the fighters who allegedly have a chance of beating The Mountain against each other would make for a great continuation to this series of GOT vs battles. I’d like to know how their differing or similar fighting styles & preferred equipment would fare in a “round robin” style video series.
Oh you'll be happy to know something along these lines is in the works! Thanks for watching Owl! Liam
Without his armor he would be far too slow on any battlefield, not to mention a massive target. He's the type of bloke that if he hit you, he's going to kill you in that one hit.. But someone quicker and smaller with the right weapon would make easy work of him.
Big doesn't equal slow my friend, quite the opposite in fact. Its a bit of a myth perpetuated by Hollinwood and its likely due to some writer mistaking speed and agility for Stamnia (which bigger built people don't have as much of in comparison to a smaller person) What makes Gregor slow is in fact his armor, its supposedly twice as thick as regular plate armour, which makes it nigh on impregnable to even armor piercing weapons, but that comes with the trade off of weighing you down. You take that armor armor away and he would likely be explosively quick. The target point is valid though, I know where I'd be pointing my archers 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam
I still don't think he would be the Mountain but there's to say that Jorah in the books is huge as a bear, like most Mormonts. Not as monstrous as Gregor but still a huge, muscled armor-clad man, he's most definetely above average.
Oh for sure, I don't think Jorah is a slouch and he'll definitely be extremely strong for his size. I just remember Dany noting that he was noticeably shorter than Barristan, most people guesstimate that Barristan is 6 to 6.4ft tall. So Jorah could be 5.9ft to maybe 6ft tall, so not short but definitely heavily on the back foot of size and strength vs Gregor. But for the Dothraki to know and respect Jorah as a swordsman, that for me tells me he was probably an absolute force to be reckoned with when he was younger, just not enough to beat the Mountain. I think even the greats like Dayne and Jaime are going to struggle trying to take a sword vs that monster.
Thanks for watching Gabriel! Liam
Actually, all swords/weapons have an ideal weight. A magically strong and 'very much less dense than steel' Valyrian steel would end up with either a very thick/broad blade or a blade weight with insufficient momentum for fighting. This point is most often ignored when harping on 'light' Valyrian blades. It would actually work if you want to make a warhammer that looks like those 40k ones though.
Aero Hotah? That’s a very nice axe he has. And he is too the human specimen. 😊
Daemon I Blackfyre The King Who Bore The Sword would make mincemeat of Gregor.
Nope not at all
For the remade how the Starks would have won video I want to remind that Robb was also the king of the trident so he can't just hold out in the North. Robb isn't a person who would just let his subjects get attacked without him doing nothing about it.
*riverlands
i’ve never read the books (i’m going to though) but show only character i see arya beating the mountain as he was on her list and i’m sure she would prepare something similar to oberyns technique and pull it off
After watching Stannis' last fight and the turn of speed an injured man did to finish the fight against 2 enemies. I wonder if Stannis deserves consideration. Long odds, but how fast is he normally?
Add Daemon Blackfyre, Myles the Monstrous, Aero Hotah, Caggo, Chains, The Laughing Storm in the next list
Ned didn't fight in tourneys 'cos he was a fight to the death kinda guy, anything else was just dishonorable to him.
That look on Jaimie's face was acknowledging this, he realized he was gonna have to kill Ned to defeat him because Ned would never yield up until his last limb. Jaimie just wanted to dominate and embarrass him, not kill him.
it always strikes me as odd when people say oberyn beat the mountain. oberyn _killed_ the mountain (with poison), but he lost the duel itself. sure, he _couldve_ won it with a bit of an attitude shift, but he still _didnt_ win it. gregor won, just only barely and of course ending up dying eventually anyway because of the poison.
also, you repeatedly refer to dayne as wielding a longsword and this being a disadvantage against gregor's greatsword. is dawn not a greatsword?
Great points FT! we address this in an upcoming video about Dawn buddy! Greatsword isn't a historical term, it often just means a Longsword that NEEDS two hands to use and comes up to between the elbow and armpit height of the user. So they're usually between 4 and a half to 6ft typically (obviously they can be bigger but thats the extremes). We're never given any information on how long Dawn is but my suspicions are its on the shorter end, just because Dayne used it exclusively and a 6ft Greatsword is quite situational in its uses (very impractical for every day knightly use unless your as big as Gregor) so I'd lean to it been more like a Bastard sword than a true "Greatsword". But I could be wrong we don't know. And its not Greg's sword that gives Dayne trouble, its Greg's armor. Despite people thinking differently, Dawn and VSwords aren't lightsabers, they can't cut through plate. Taking a longsword (or greatsword) against Greg's armor and shield is just not an optimal choice, whether its a magical star sword or a stock steel one, swords are just crap for taking on plate IF you are in no position to wrestle your opponent to the ground. Thanks for watching Feedtheorist! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips fair analysis, but youve gotta remember that george does his own stuff with terms (in ASOIAF, a bastard sword is longer than a longsword, no? whereas irl it is shorter). he also can get a bit unrealistic with weaponry wielding, as you yourself have repeatedly pointed out in videos in regards to robert's warhammer. i think if robert can wield an unrealistic warhammer, dayne can get away with exclusively wielding a large greatsword, considering its material is likely lighter than steel, and therefore dawn could be of size of what most people would consider a true greatsword... but i suppose this is a discussion to save for that upcoming video haha.
In my opinion it would be Khai Drogo. The only man w/o fear of any man or beast in all of Westeros. It would be an epic battle. o7
What about prime yohn royce? He is as tall as the hound, nearly as strong as him and is quite a skilled warrior
Not enough footage of the guy, Thom would never allow it Blaze 😂 but from what I've heard Yohn Royce is a beast and I certainly wouldn't write him off as having a shot! Thanks for watching! Liam
“Ned isn’t one of the best there is” homie what? Everything we have seen suggest the opposite. Short work of kings guard 1v1, stalemated prime Jaimie as an older man, held his own against the GOAT Arthur Dayne, and is said to have slain a dozen great knights in a single battle.
And then Beric AND Thoros couldn’t beat the Mountain? Again, what? Hound beat the Mountain and Beric very nearly beat the Hound. Throw in Thoros and it’s a wrap.
You should do a crossover battle between Aragorn son of Arathorn King of Gondor and Andor vs Gregor Clegane!
I'm sure we'll get to rings vs thrones at some point 😂 thanks for watching! Liam
If you really want to punish the Mountain or have a joking crossover match against prime Jaime you could always match them up with Jedi, Darth Vader or Warcraft characters.
Obviously would have to put money on Theon filling him with 12 arrows before the mountain got off his horse, and another 12 while he was bleeding on the ground. Why else do you think the first scene was Ned teaching the Stark boys to use bows.
Obviously Jeremy!!! 😂 I try to avoid using Theon, he's too badass for lists like this 😂 but there is truth in what you say, the safest way to kill the Mountain would be to have a unit of longbowmen Volly their arrows at him while hes mounted, enough arrows will kill his horse and the sheer volume would mean one or two would find a gap. Thanks for watching! Liam
Mountain was very confident in his size. He thinks he can kill anyone with his bare hand. If he see Wunwun his whole confidence will gone and he may say that Now Iam looking on the real mountain.
Very much so, were it not for the hound needing the kill, I would have been eager to see the Mountain ended with the poetic justice of been crushed by someone bigger than him 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam
The Great Jon smokes Gregory
Fighters from other franchises vs the Mountain? What about the Middle Earth line-up? We have several candidates for can and can't.
Legolas straight up wouldn't even engage in a melee with something like the mountain, and his precision with a bow is beyond that of Robin Hood. But even with a sword, the guy has all the advantages Oberyn has. Getting an arrow or blade through an eyeslit is tricky, but he's faced plenty of brutish orcs who could cleave him in two with one swing and always come out the victor.
Boromir sadly doesn't have any noteable advantage in this fight. Like Ned, he would probably try and match the Mountain in a stand-up fight wherein he's outclassed. Both being played by Sean Bean also doesn't help. One does not simply something something the Mountain.
Gimli is an interesting case. As an actual dwarf (not an imp) his disadvantage in size is even worse than most, but Middle Earth's dwarves truly demonstrate that size doesn't matter. They're hardly folk, and Gimli even moreso. Plus he favours the axe, a weapon that actually has some armour piercing potential. Like Legolas we see him deal with dozens of oversized brutes at Helm's Deep, on the Pelenor Fields, and at the Black Gates to Mordor. The Mountain that Rides isn't anything he hasn't faced before.
Gandalf. Do I even need to say more? Any fighter who survives an encounter with a Balrog is immediately in the running for 'could defeat the Mountain'. A fighter who actually slays a Balrog? That might as well flip the script. Gandalf may not wear much in the way of armour, and he's not spritely and nimble. But possessing actual magic, a ring of power and being the universe equivalent of an angel should more than suffice.
Aragorn is agile and has a long lifetime of experience as a ranger. He is exactly the sort of warrior that can give Oberyn a run for his money, and therefore the Mountain. And this is just early Aragorn. Give him Andúril, and now he's armed with a blade that even brought down Sauron while it was in pieces.
We'll have a crack it LOTR vs the Mountain one day I'm sure buddy 😂 I feel like its what people come to our channel for. Thanks for watching! Liam
Sauron.
The mountain loses to greywind, big jon umber and smalljon, areo hotah, garland tyrell, melissandre, khal drogo, vargo hoats bear
Just imagine the mountain using a hammer simular to Roberts war hammer , no armour would be considered safe in a 1v1 , but then again i think a fast fighter like oberyn ?would still far well , just have to evade attacks way more
Pointed axe would go through plate armour or a battle hammer one handed but you have to get up close so be difficult.
Would need to be a mighty swing to get it through Greg's plate, remember its twice as thick as regular plate armor. The hammer is the best shout I think! Thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClipstrue but use the spiked hammer for the legs and the battle hammer for the chest but would have to be really quick
Robert wouldn't even need to damage Clegane's skull with head blow. Helmets really don't do much to protect against concussion, which is mainly the impact causing the brain to rattle around inside the skull. While not applicable in combat, it's arguable that helmets do more harm than good in American Football because the reduced pain makes people willing/able to hit harder. Boxing gloves have a similar effect. The blood from bare knuckle fighting was usually from the puncher's own knuckles.
Well it's actually a lot easier than you might think. You see, The Crow defeats a moose by pecking its eyes out first... after that, use your imagination 😎