How to Mix and Spray Rustoleum Paint for a Budget Paint Job
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2019
- Looking for a budget paint job? In this video you'll learn how to mix and spray common Rustoleum paint for use on anything from car / truck frames and rims to overall paint jobs.
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I painted a blue Chevy I had with blue Rust-Oleum came out beautiful. I find that to be the best paint for the price you can't complain...😁👍👍👍
Straight down to business with this video. Very easy to follow, and not complicated at all. Thank you very much for posting this video!
You're welcome MDS - glad you liked it :)
I agree. I don’t have the patience for stupid intros, watching those other clowns driving to the store to buy the products, and then taking 20 minutes to open the boxes.
Thanks for posting this. I just was looking for info on spraying a piece of equipment. But wow... I might even paint my 25 y/o truck now. Great instructional video. Thanks again!
You're welcome - Jerry
AWESOME video!! To the point, clear, no annoying talk and/or music. Thanks. I’m going to spray a car hauler, so it’s not going to be a work of art that has to look good, but I want it to look better!!
It will work fine for that :)
I will paint my core support and inner fenders with this .They offer a catalyst for hardener that I use too . Thanks for the. Always a big help.
Glad to hear it - it is great paint once it dries - pretty durable.
Hi Jerry, I finally painted one of my old trucks with Rustoleum, '78 Chevy. It turned out pretty good. It's Safety Blue. It was a pretty beat up old truck, I had a ton of bodywork to do. I missed a couple dings too, Lol! Thank you for your awesome videos!!
I love hearing that. Who cares if there are a few mistakes - it happens to everyone. It's the guy/gal that can work with or repair their mistakes that succeeds. With every job you get better :)
Not to mention, I’ve seen some beautiful, rust oleum paint jobs they color sand it and buff and it looks beautiful
Very usefull content on a budget
Another great video! I have not tried Acetone but did a lot with Rustoleum and Xylene and it worked great on new steel (angle, channel, square tubing etc). Back when the big 8 & 10 foot dish antennas were sprouting everywhere (70s & 80s?) I was building antenna mounts for them, along with other metal fab work. Rustoleum cut with Xylene was my go-to paint. Looked nice and, for reasons I can't explain, seemed more durable than when I cut it with paint thinner. Larry
Rustoleum is actually pretty good paint for rust protection as it is very durable for sure. Thanks for the comment.
I’ve been painting semi truck frames with rustoleum for years. I live in Michigan and this paint holds up better than the factory paint or anything else.
You're right. Rustoleum is oil based enamel and it's really pretty tough stuff :)
Great job! You make it look so easy!
Thank you for the efforts and putting your video together. I know now how to mix my Rust-Oleum paint. Sometimes we just need showed something once or twice so we know how to do it ourselves. Again thank you for the video.
You're welcome
I agree, but im a virgin truck painter.
David
Alberta
@@davidweum9334 you can do bro just take your time with it an you'll do fine.. got any pics of the job ?
I gotta start out with a 1 to 1
What ratio did you use could you answer me please appreciate it
Great job l like the way it looks
I have an old vintage Mac Tool chest that I've been restoring, and this would be an excellent paint choice!
Absolutely. The use of a hardener will make the paint dry faster and more durable too. www.amazon.com/Valspar-4625-Enamel-Hardener-oz/dp/B000LNY1MY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Excellent video again, thanks from London England 👍😎🏴
You're welcome A BC. How's living in London England?
The other videos out there often confuse me. These videos are straightforward and understandable. I know I can do this now.
Glad to hear it Johan - have a good weekend :)
what would happen if i spray clear coat after
@@ray8380 I've seen videos on that but have not tried it myself. I'll look into that a see if there is a clear that will be successful over oil based enamel without sanding it first.
Should I use some of that Japanese dryer with acetone
I’m planning to repaint my ‘29 model A with a Rust oleum paint. I like your technique.
Majic enamel hardener my help with that project. I think if you do a few test panels - like paint a few old coffee cans first, it may help you decide what setting, mix ratios, hardeners work best for you and the outside temperature you're working with :)
I painted a bus using Rustoleum. Bought white and tinted it tan. Worked great!
That's good to hear - it is actually pretty darn good paint for the price.
Did you use straight or a ruducer
@@anthonymaniz1933 reduced enough to replicate automotive paint.
I am getting ready to paint my beetle fenders, this is really helpful!
Glad to hear it MHL - feel free to ask ?s as you go :)
Great just the video I’m looking for because I got off track and was overdoing it. This will get me back in the ballpark.
Thank OS - glad you liked it :)
This is the best channel to have ever come across!
Thanks Topcat - I appreciate your kind words :)
This is a pretty cool idea.
This is really cool Jerry. I'm itching to start, but have to make sure the frame and mechanicals are sound first.
Let me know how it goes. If you're spraying the frame, you can mix the paint a bit thicker. The mix ratio is really up to you and what works best for your project.
That came out nice. Thanks for the information....👍👍👍
Thanks - have a great week :)
Will use this info. No more rattle cans. Thank you.
One thing to remember is when it's cold this paint likes to run so be careful. Use light coats and give it time to tack up before the next coat.
Glad I discovered this video! I have a '94 Chevy 1500 W/T with what I call 'Snakeskin Syndrome'. I peeled off the loose paint and sanded off the crappy factory primer and going Rust-Oleum all the way. I'm going to try my luck with an HVLP airless paint sprayer I got at Harbor Freight. Thanks for the tips on how to mix the paint, it's going to be very helpful to me.
Let me know how it goes. This enamel hardener may help you out a bit too - it'll dry faster, shine real nice, and be a bit more durable - www.amazon.com/Valspar-4625-Enamel-Hardener-oz/product-reviews/B000LNY1MY
@@LakesideAutobody thanks for the tip! I'll definitely look into that as I've had previous experience with hardners in paint and agree that the results would be better.
@@LakesideAutobody I don't want to keep bugging you can you send me the paint ratio again I appreciate it
@@ronnieyoung7510 No problem. You'll mix 4 parts of paint to 1 part of hardener then thin it with right around 2-3 parts acetone or even mineral spirits. Here's a video on mixing paint that may help if you have trouble with ratios - ruclips.net/video/cua8Y7hXzak/видео.html Keep asking ?s - no worries - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody it's not a problem can you send me the number on the hard enough at tractor supply you get
I’ve been painting with Rustoleum for decades. I prefer mineral spirits with a little hardener as acetone dries too fast. Color matching is always challenging.
Thanks for you input :)
What the ratio and what type hardener did you use
Any paint hardener
RUSTOLIUM IS OIL BASED ENAMEL. YOU REALLY DONT WANT TO MIX ENAMEL WITH PAINT THINNER OR MINERAL SPIRITS. ACETONE IS BEST CUT. AND XY. ENAMEL IS GOOD FOR AUTO BODY, MOTORCYCLES ECT, BECAUSE WHEN IT CURES IT CURES HARD LIKE A SHELL. EPOXY IS TO SOFT. LAQUER IS GOOD FOR AUTO TOO. I PAINT ALL MY CROTCH ROCKETS WITH ENAMEL. MY ZX6R I DID A BASE COAT METALIC SILVER AND THE THINNED OUT A BURNT ORANGE WITH CLEAR COAT SO IT WAS TRANSPARENT, THEN TOPPED IT WITH HARD AUTO CLEAR. BUFFED IT. YOU WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS PAINT JOB I DID AND A AUTO CANDY COAT. GOOD SHIT
Thanks for Answering just trying to figure out the paint and body work just for myself thanks again.
You're welcome - any time :)
Great vid. I painted my beater Jeep with your direction and it turned out really nice. Problem is, now it's not a "beater" anymore. Now, I'm actually picky about where I park it! I'll just have to find another beater Jeep toy... Many thanks for the vid!
That's really good to hear. Yep the fun is actually looking for them. Jerry
Rustoleum is an alkyd enamel and it’ll act like any other enamel when thinned, and if you add an enamel hardener it will catalyze like any other 2k paint. Just thinning it will make it dry faster but it won’t last and it will come off with chemicals like acetone.
Very impressed. Most painting videos I couldn't finish watching because they had annoying music or made me nauseous (I think they had the camera strapped to their wrist as they sanded!)
Even more impressed Jerry that you patiently reply to any questions! I've subscribed.
Thanks, ask as many ?'s as you want. Have a great weekend.
When he says wet and wetter does he meen different mixer or a gun setting?
Majic it is! Can a very fine metal flake be added to Rust Oleum?
If so, just on the last coat or on every coat?
Using “rustoleum” makes sense, to beat back rust. I don’t know much about paint, but it seems it’d be more durable. Ty. You have very informative videos.
Thanks Daddy Crab - I appreciate the support :)
@@LakesideAutobody you are welcome sir. Years of experience you have. Awesome.
if u use 4 parts paint and 3 parts acetone and 2 caps full of catylist hardner it will hold up just like reg auto paint there is a lot of hotrods painted with it and last for years
Would it dry faster and come out less gummy?
@@overratedsrtchallenger when u put the hardner in it it will dry quicker but u have to wait a few days before u drive it
Great tip
@@tonimalveaux67 thanks
Can I use moré harder?
Great video !! thats the way to do it. You can also add some medium hardener (0.8 part) Will be easier to cut n buff
I agree. Works nice with the hardener. You can mix it a little thicker I think too - it does run easy.
Which hardner can I use? Clear coat activator would work?
@@rigoslittleshop9430 usually using universal acrylic eurethane hardener. Medium speed for clearcoats
Excellent job, very nice.
Thanks Douglas :)
When I had an appliance business, I would use Naptha to thin an enamel paint, and I used a viscosity cup to determine the mix. I forget what the time was for the cup, but it gave great results.
I've heard of the viscosity cup and really need to get one. Sometimes paint is way to thick the way they say to mix it i.e. paintforcars.com acrylic enamel single stage, rustoleum, etc.
@@LakesideAutobody I'll try the website, and yes, the instructions can make it way too thick. I often see instructions say not to thin more than 10%. It would still be thick as syrup. Too thick for even brushing it on some iron railing.
@@LakesideAutobody By the way, are you in Lakeside California?
acetone evaporates faster then naptha :quick dry between coats
Good job. I did an old car of mine using 50/50 Rustoleum to mineral spirits and it came out really good. Nice cheap way to pretty up a rat.
Thanks - Jerry
Did you stand father away from the car with the 50/50 ratio so it won't run
It also helps to use a hardener and Japan Drier.
This guy at Lakeside auto has great videos for the man that wants to get out of the house and DIY.
Thanks Mark - glad you like them :)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
You're welcome - thanks for checking it out :)
Great job to show a cheap paint job.
I have owned a body shop for 35 years and painted with Rust-Oleum acetone and hardener then clear-coated
After applying the base coat completely wet sanded then two coats of clearcoat.
There was definite areas that required some wet sanding and buffing wear orange peel occurred because of my spray overlay and hand speed with the gun. I'm not going to blame it on the product in other instances orange peel did not happen.
I've had orange peel with every type of automotive paint used and I will repeat did usually never came down to the product but hand control of the gun.
You're definitely an Old Skool Pro who did a great video for anyone wanting to put some sweat equity and cheaper finances into making a vehicle look better
Thanks for the comment - I enjoyed reading it. I agree with you on getting orange peel with any paint. By the way, what did you use for clear over rustoleum? Thanks again - Jerry
Enjoyed the video. No B/S and easy to follow.
I appreciate that Ray :)
Nice demo, you sold me. SUBed
I custom painted my motorcycle with Rustoleum, sealed it with Minwax Helmsman clear coat and it came out beautiful.
Thanks for that comment. A lot of folks have been asking about a clear coat for it. Have a great weekend :)
I tried the same thing on a f-250 - after a few months in the sun the paint checked like alligator skin - the Helmsman caused that - never happens with just Rustoleum.
Where did you buy the clear coat at I appreciate for the answer to me I need to start an old car I'd like to clear coat it thank you
Awesome video thank you for the upload
You're welcome
looks pretty good.
Thanks G :)
Big thanks going to do that on my trailer..
You're welcome JO :)
I used rustolium paint on a 2g dsm. Turned out nice after sanding and polishing.
So after you applied the number of coats desired and allowed to fully dry...what did you use to then sand it to which you finished that up by polishing the rustoleum?? What compound did you go with in respect to polishing end product???
@@vprince9907 when removing the orange peel effect in the paint wet sand with a fine grit sandpaper. Anywhere from 1500-2000+. Once you achieve a dull uniform finish use a two step paint compound and polish application. I have used meguiars m105 and m205 with an polisher and the results have been excellent. I hope this helps
That a noble spray job 👍
Thanks :)
Thanks for the video. 😊
👍😊
man looks good
Did a lot of panels on my cars like this and years later they’re still holding up strong. I’m in the middle of painting my old neon grey right now like this
Thanks for your input RJ :)
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INFORMATION VERY MUCH APPRECIATED
You're welcome :)
nice info for 3 coats, soft tack, med and heavy last coat
I like using the hardener too - I didn't use it in the vid but it works well. Paint dries much faster - almost like professional automotive paint - nice shine too.
Lakeside Autobody when choosing hardener, is any specific brand best to mix with rustoleum? Also what amount is used?
Thanks
I used the same method for metal doors on a church, lasted a few years but faded badly within the second year! If you want to slow down the fading, you must keep it waxed at all times!
Thanks for the tip :)
I add enamel reducer and clear coat hardener to rust oleum, hardener makes it shine longer
That stuff works real well in the rustoleum - shines like real auto paint really.
The gun you used looked like my old Eclipse a Binks #7 clone which I still own and use when I spray large metallics
I have a clone too - only its a Campbell Hausfeld w/ a 1.7 fluid tip. Works just fine.
@@LakesideAutobody Thank for sharing the tip size 1.7 toe is normally a primer gun 🔫I'll try that out too !! 😀
Yo so I’m painting my 85 c10 I used this process but I only painted around the front windshield will I be able to sand down with 1500 and re paint all the cab?
Sure. With solid colors you can do one panel at a time if you want. Really easy with rustoleum black or white - even the colors.
I need some advice...
I am using Rustoleum to trim in a core support and grille brackets on my dad's 72 Chevy truck.
I am going to use a 1K sealer over the factory LMC epoxy primer, then topcoat it with rustoleum.
My gun says HVLP @29 PSI.
what pressure would you recommend for the sealer and paint?
Around 20-30 psi - too much pressure and there will be excessive fumes and overspray. Too little pressure and you sense not enough paint or poor atomization. I'd say start at 25 +/- depending on how it sprays out. Let me know how it goes for you :)
Using acetone as a thinner will take days to dry. Med dry reducer will give it a higher gloss finish. Keep your spray gun 6 inches from whatever your painting is the key.
Are you talking about this type of reducer - Majic 8-0750-3 Enamel Reducer or are you saying you are using urethane reducer?
Nice job! thanks for sharing. How long were the intervals between each coat?
Depends on the temp in the garage but 1/2-1 hour. Rustoleum dries slow. Basically if the last coat is dry to touch or tacky, you're good :)
Howdy thanks for the video. Just wondering air psi and time between coats.
I'm usually at around 25 psi on every type of paint. For rustoleum you have to wait a good 1/2 hour or more. When it gets tacky dry, you're ready for another coat. Rustoleum runs pretty easy on vertical panels so go lightly at first.
Great Video, So can I mix acetone instead of reducer in my PPG autoshop line paint??
No - I believe that uses reducer. I'm not a chemist but I don't think using acetone would work.
yes i do it it will dry faster
Thank you Jerry, I am planning on doing this on two old trucks this summer! Not show trucks, LOL!
I'm sure it will look just fine. Jerry
Claybird how did the two old trucks turn out?
Nice video
Do I need a binks no 7 for this ? the epa took mine years ago. lol
I noticed that too. For non commercial use it would probably be OK. I still have my Devilbiss JGAs hanging in their cabinet.
Also have you clear coated rustoleum? any idea on a clear coat that wont give me a 3 alarm chemical reaction?
I think any automotive enamel or urethane clear would be fine - start with a light coat and give plenty of time between each successive coat - you'll be fine
Would 1 part hardener give it a harder more durable finish? Looking to use this to paint a Harbor Freight tire changer mode I made. Thanks and aloha!
Hi from Michigan :) Hardener like this will work fine - it's mixed 4:1 like you said. Yes it will shine and dry really nice - www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/majic-catalyst-hardener-clear-half-1-2-pint-1177127?store=646&cid=Shopping-Google-Organic_Feed-Product-1177127&cid=Shopping-Google-LOB-Local_Feed&Google&Shopping&LOB&Local_Feed&gclid=CjwKCAjwjZmTBhB4EiwAynRmD4i_E1ACUeSi1hgYBrKqwJ7EgRFpcR4ix1P78f-eNMGsqsLO39USFBoC0JgQAvD_BwE
Im wanting to paint the frame on a truck and a metal flatbed for a pickup with this setup, what psi are you using for your gun and how would i measure 4 parts and three parts, not really good with all the paint stuff
My psi is always around 25 on most everything I spray - just works well for me. Here's a vid on measuring paint - ruclips.net/video/cua8Y7hXzak/видео.html Basically you'll divide a stick into 7 equal parts then 4 will be paint and 3 will be mineral spirits or acetone, etc. Jerry
To paint a fence do i have to use that mich thiner i have never done anything like this but i want to try it thx
For painting a fence try 4 parts paint to 1 part thinner at first - if it doesn't spray out add more. Let me know if you have more ?s - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody thank you
What about using a hardener like super wet look? Or Japan drier? I've been using vm&p naphtha as my reducer
It may work well but I stick to the hardeners that say "For Oil Based Enamels" because Rustoleum is an oil based enamel. All hardeners may work though if they are for enamel so... if you try it and it works well let me know :)
I plan on painting my truck soon, and was wondering what a good mix would be for rust oleum. Thanks for sharing this video
You're welcome. I've heard of a mix ratio of 5 parts paint to 2 parts acetone too if you want to spray it a little thicker.
1 oz catalyst or japan drier should be mixed in to the paint and acetone mixture because rustoleum takes a week to fully dry without throughly
Absolutely agree - it works a lot better w/ hardener
Awesome!
Thanks - the reduction ratio is trial and error so that worked well for me - some folks like it thicker some like it thinner - depends on the temp in the shop too :)
Awesome and very informative video! I'm in the process of prepping my civic for paint -- going from factory green to white! Hopefully it turns out as nice as yours! Any way to avoid the orange peel effect? sanding and buffing?
If you get orange peel you can wet sand with 1000-1500 grit and wheel it. Jerry
Mix that shit 1 to 1 with laquer thinner and it’ll lay like glass
@@mmandros51 they recommend with acetone best..I did it with acetone and then wetsand and polish and came out great!! 1 to 1 with thinner worked as well for you?
@@rigoslittleshop9430 I’ve used both thinner and acetone and both worked well. Dries faster with acetone.
@@mmandros51 and even then acetone took me about a whole day and half. In a week later I could still scratch the paint easy with my nail lol
Nice. But what about the sun damage? Is there a uv clear protectant that can be sprayed over it? Does it need a hardener?
A hardener works very well with it. www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/majic-catalyst-hardener-clear-half-1-2-pint-1177127?store=632&cid=Shopping-Google-Organic_Feed-Product-1177127&cid= If you want a paint that holds up a bit better in the sun try TCP Global's Restoration Shop paint - cheap and works very well - ruclips.net/video/aJHa1grz5Fs/видео.html
Nice job & video. Can that be done with an 8 gal. Air compressor?
Thanks Kevin - yes you can use an 8 gal compressor. You might have to let it catch up for a whole car but for small jobs, it should do just fine.
Can one use this paint with a 1k or 2K urathane clear?
If so, would the paint need to be sanded prior to the clear coat?
I've never cleared rustoleum paint but if you wait for it to cure - yes you could scuff it with a grey scotch brite pad and clear it with what ever you want - sorry about the late reply
Would this ratio work with mineral spirits as well. The rusty metal primer can states thin with mineral spirits. Thanks.
Yes - you can alter it too if you like it thicker or thinner. You can use paint thinner (not lacquer thinner), mineral spirits or acetone with oil based paints like rustoleum, majic, and farm/implement paint. Majic enamel hardener can make the paint more durable and more like auto paint :)
Just came across this video. Very straightforward and to the point without wasting time. Great Video and much appreciated. One question I have is I want to add hardener. Do you happen to know the ratios when you add the hardener? Is it 4-3-1 or something different? Thanks for the help!!👍🙂
Here's the stuff you'll want to use - there's other brand too - Majic 30679 Accelerator Hardener, 1/2 pint, Clear It's 4:3:1 4- paint, 3 - acetone or mineral spirits, 1 - hardener
@@LakesideAutobody Awesome! I really appreciate it. I am going out in the shop to spray now. I actually have some of that Majic Accelerator Hardener I picked up from tractor supply not long ago. You have a new subscriber. Thanks again.
@@endoskeleton99 Thanks - if it's too thin, mix it 4:2:1 4 paint - 2 acetone or mineral s - 1 hardener. Let me know how it goes for you. Thanks for the sub my friend - Happy New Year 🎉
@@LakesideAutobody Everything worked perfect! I ended up using the ProForm Urethane medium reducer and Urethane hardener mixed 4:2:1. I got amazing results. It flowed perfectly smooth, nice and shiny, and was harder in 24 hours than some rustoleum I sprayed a week and a half earlier with a rattle can. Perfect success! Thank you again for all your help and this amazing easy to follow video. 😄👍
I just done this 4:2:1 mix ratio today and it turned out amazing 0 problems I’d say that ratio is a sweet spot
Thank you for making this video, could you please tell me how long you waited between each coat?
About 1/2 hour @ around 70 degrees F. A good rule of thumb with any paint is when it gets sticky or tacky dry you can go ahead with the next coat. :)
@@LakesideAutobody Many thanks ☺
@@JohnSmith-ki2eq You're welcome :)
I have a 84 K10 that needs paint and what you were able to achieve is plenty good for my purpose. I've got two questions; what is the timing between the coats, and would this work with flat finish paint? Thank you!
Yes it would work fine with the satin or flat rustoleum - here's a video on that - ruclips.net/video/TO39VTcbNMo/видео.html Time between coats depends on the temperature you are painting in. Hot weather 70+ about 1/2 between coats. Colder temps and you'll need and hour - rustoleum dries pretty slow. Basically when any spray paint is dry or tacky dry you're ready for another coat. You just don't want to throw another coat over wet paint as it will likely run.
Thanks for the info. What about a clear coat? What would you use on an oil based paint? Oil paint is " softer " while sealers are hard .What would you recommend?
I would let it dry for a long time - like days before clearing. I would try to find an enamel clear - maybe Paint For Cars Enamel Clear or something similar. I have heard of folks having good success clearing Rustoleum but have not tried it myself. I plan on experimenting with it though before making a video on it some day :)
@@LakesideAutobody Thank you again.
In our shop we tried 3 or 4 different clear over the rustoleum. Endura clear coat, PPG clear coat, industrial high performance clear coat, and even Rust-Oleum clear coat.
All of them worked fine we never had an issue with the Rust-Oleum being clear-coated when we left enough time for the and elapsed time between clear coat.
We did have occasion when we did not leave enough time and one or two areas created little bubblrs.
I agree with you that proper preparation wipe down and pure common sense make a better job. Every instance when we had issues related to Rushing of speed because somebody wanted economical job.
Moral of the story take a little extra time letting things set up pays dividends and not having to redo the job and spend that extra time and materials to redo it.
A good quality masking tape and sandpaper make a huge difference also on an effective job.
As for having Hi-Tech paint booths. In the 70s custom paint jobs we're done on dirt floors that were wedded down not a downdraft heated paint booth.
Keep up the good videos you're a true old school pro
Absolutely! My dad worked at a place called JR's Custom Paint in Utica, MI - they did vets and custom vans with cool pictures of mermaids and all kinds of stuff. They were the most beautiful paint jobs I've ever seen and they were done right there in the shop (no booth) - Have a great week - Jerry
Hello. How long did you wait to turn the trunk over and spray the other side? Thank you.
If you use hardener (Valspar 4625 Enamel Hardener) and it is drying in 70 degrees or higher you can turn it over the next day (being careful) Without hardener I would wait a few days - that stuff takes a while to dry.
Can you roll it on I don't have a sprayer and the room to spray if I did have a sprayer
Yes, just make sure it's dust free before rolling. You don't have to thin it when rolling it on - maybe just a little to get it to flow nicely :)
Thank you for the video... I plan on painting an old suburban i have... Already white and im fixing some rust repair now an wanting to repaint white... The old girl is pretty far down on the budget list for the 4 vehicles i have. She is just my winter, fishing ride. Still love her and going to do best job i can, just on a budget. I hear people talk about hardner... What hardner can be used?
I heard folks talk about that too. I like hardener - definitely shines better, dries faster, and holds up better. I would make sure it is made for the exact paint you are using though. I get the budget thing! If you have any ?s just ask - Jerry
For oil based enamel (like rustoleum) I've had good luck with Valspar enamel hardener
@3G Craftsman 3 parts paint 1 part paint thinner and as for the hardener, the whole can is for one gallon of paint so i just do the math according to how much paint in using
Great vid, thanks! Im new to painting. Do you get a wetter coat by making a slower pass, or placing the gun closer to the surface of what your're painting, or both?
Wetter: slower pass, closer, fluid control wide open, thinner paint, cooler temperature, coats closer together, types of thinner/reducer i.e fast/slow
Drier or more orange peel: faster pass, further away, fluid control turned in, thick paint, hotter temps or drying too fast, fast type thinner reducer.
I might be forgetting some things but those are the factors for wet vs dry paint jobs - hope that helps :)
@@LakesideAutobody very helpful, thanks for the quick response!! Just one more question? I constantly get tiger stripes. Can that be corrected as I'm painting, by adding more paint during a given coat?"
@@patrickobrien2068 Try a bit smaller fan setting on your gun and a drop or mist coat. Here's a couple of videos that may help: ruclips.net/video/yGCpM6Cwhb0/видео.html ** ruclips.net/video/YT5_i-AsY4E/видео.html mist coat is at 2 minutes and 10 seconds - hope that helps.
Excellent. Thank you so much!!!
@@patrickobrien2068 Any time - you're welcome :)
any orange peel? if so did you sand and buff it out? what size compressor did you use? thanks!
No - not much orange peel at all. The rustoleum lays down pretty nice. I would only buff this stuff if you added hardener. If no hardener then let it dry for a few days - it does take time to dry w/o it. www.amazon.com/Valspar-4625-Enamel-Hardener-oz/dp/B000LNY1MY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 Here is a video of my compressor: ruclips.net/video/53miAObOdVY/видео.html It is right around 7.5 CFM @40 psi - Hope that answers your questions :)
Could this be used with a gun where hopper is top? I've always wanted a way to spray that black rust paint but under my truck's as a under coating instead of buy tons of spray cans of under coating they never seem to stick that good anyway Thanks love ur vids
If you mean a gravity fed spray gun - sure - no problem. If you're spraying the underside of your truck you could mix it a little thicker like 4:1 or 4:2. Glad you like the vids - happy holidays
@@LakesideAutobody great thanks for the info, I have a beater truck I plan to practice with
Hello Good video and lot of great information.Q: can i spray urethane clear coat on top of Rustoleum.
I've heard of folks doing it but I have not. I would wait till the rustoleum completely dried - like a month or more then wet sand with 600 or finer. Then go ahead and clear it - can't really go wrong like that :)
So many comments so don’t know if mine will get picked up. Would a good Direct to metal paint be comparable to rustoleom? In my neck of the woods I cant get rustoleom tinted but can get dtm tinted and in a satin finish.
Yes. Rustoleum is oil based enamel. There are a few farm and implement paint cos out there like Magic, Krylon, etc that make basically the same paint. Tractor Supply up here in MIchigan is a good place to look - maybe online :)
So I know this is an old video but do I need hardener? Because people are telling me it will take a month to dry
Hardener does help a lot as it dries faster, with a more durable shine. If you don't use hardener it will take longer to dry. The next day, you can handle it carefully. Depends on the temperature too :)
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Thank you for taking the time to make and post this video. Drying time in between coats?
Rustoleum takes some time to dry so on warm days 70+ 1/2 hour between coats - when cold much longer. If the last coat is dry or at least tacky, you're ready for another :)
@@LakesideAutobody thank you for the quick response
I'm adding a hardener, super wet, can I do 4 paint, 3 acetone, 1 hardener? Also, painting in my backyard, no shade, getting over 90° now. Will light coat make Tiger stripes? Rust-Oleum gloss white, over sanded original white paint. Plan on doing in stages, took off bumper covers, all trim, wish me luck!
howd it go
Good luck - You can't get tiger stripes with solid color paints - only metallic paint. Have fun - Jerry
hi i have question i sprayed a 4 parts rustolem 3 parts acetone 1 part wetlook i had issues with my gun to spray it but i did like 2 3 coats primer and 3-4 coats white gloss it was hard to spary had issues... but i find it nicks easilly and paint comes off.. why doesnt it come out like a hard finish like a car that the paint doesnt chip off.. i doing it for a boat trailer so its going to chip easily and rust and i didnt want that
Sorry about the late reply, actually Rustoleum is great for boat trailers even with out hardener. It does take time to cure fully though. BTW, what is wet look?
Is it oil based enamel hardener? Rustoleum is oil based - it needs this type of hardener - www.amazon.com/Valspar-4625-Enamel-Hardener-oz/dp/B000LNY1MY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 It is a tough paint but not as durable as urethane or acrylic enamel with a hardener. Your gun has to be very clean. For a trailer, I would use less acetone - maybe 4 parts paint to 2 parts acetone or mineral spirits. Heck, if its a trailer you can roll it on right out of the can and it should look great. Let me know how it goes and feel free to ask any ?s you might have if I didn't help - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody i let it cure a week but when i was bolting the U bolts it chipped the damn paint off.. so i wasnt sure .. i was repairing it i know it was orginalyl powder coated and my father painted trailer but since he passed away a number a years ago i dont know what i doing loll and used the rust paint to try to stop rust i sanded to metal mostly.. my father used to build boat trailers so i trying to make some and then paint.. i didnt think i could roll and get the smooth look.. i did spray and found sometimes the painted airy felt like sand paper i painted... the wet look is brand name its a hardener or so... i had issues with my gun it sprays and stops sprays and stop pulses like a jet engine i tried so many things i dont have a air dryer etc.. and its using a syphon gun.. and even with rust paint damn shits rusting lol... ill check the link... if you can email me i can sent pics as i was having issues. comet424@msn.com i got as much paint on as i could but as soon as i was moving ubolts to adjust trailer damn paint comes off ugh.
and my father used to build trailers in 80s 90s so i using gun from that erra
Question for ya...I pulled my Monte's engine...now I am grinding and sanding and everything else to my engine compartment. Can I use my regular primer, a few coats, then regular base and clear? Gloss black is the result I'm looking for. Appreciate ya man.
Absolutely. What year Monte?
Can you put clear coat on it, if so what kind would be used? Thanks, find your vids very useful.
I've heard of guys clearing it with various clears out there today like enamel or urethane and it looks great - I've seen it on youtube. Myself, I would wait for it to fully harden - then scuff it with the grey pad then clear it - I doubt you'll see the super fine scuffing under the clear and that way you'll be sure the clear sticks well.
@@LakesideAutobody 10-4 Thanks.
great tutorial but what about spray tip size and air pressure? a must to know.
You're right - Air pressure 25 psi at the gun and tip size is 1.7 mm. You can spray this paint with any gun really from 1.4 - 1.8 mm or even outside of those parameters