I watched a lot of videos about rustoleum prior to using it on some metal cabinets; however, noneof them came close to being as useful as this one. With no prior experience, I was able to achieve great results utilizing the recommendations of this video and it was very easy to follow the instructions. I wish you all the best in your future videos.
i've painted cars boats trucks motorcycles for 50 years,i knew one of you guys would figure out or experiment with the mix,the paint job is in the mix,you have found the holy grail of painting,want you to know that,the rest is drying times and flashing times,you spent the money on the paints and thinners thats' where the learning is,and also the prep is everything,i'm telling you this cause you showed me the mixes of the rustoleum materials,i'll be using the 1to 1 in the booths and the 2 to one elsewhere,paint booths ,all of them do one thing exceptional,they rid the area of overspray and the dry the finishes quickly,all necessary for QUALITY WORK,THANKS PAINTER
I watch a lot of instructional videos and I’m here to tell you, you’re doing it right. The pace and how you covered the subject was really good. So many people waste too much time on needless banter and details that aren’t pertinent. You kept me interested the whole video and i learned something. Keep it up 👍
Ive been hobby painting cars for 40 years. I too like to play with the rustoleum paint products. Your technique is good but I would suggest using a wider fan pattern on the gun. Narrow is good for doing door jambs and cutting in, but will kill you with tiger stripes if you ever start shooting metallics, Otherwise nice job. Good to see young guys out there making it happen !
sail235aeh hey thanks brother! I really do need wider fan pattern. But I feel like I need to open the fluid a lot more to get that wide pattern. And then I feel like there is just to much pint laying down. Some say at that point move further away. I need to experiment more next season. But yes I noticed that’s one thing I still didn’t finesse.
I'm doing my old hauling truck just for something to do this spring/summer with roller brushes and 4" brushes. My issue: I cant afford compressor for 1 . 1/2 job F150 truck/'98 Honda Civic touch ups(CYPRESS GREEN PEARL color). Christ I need direction/informatio !!! Help!!! Any references? I've paid enough already for polish, sandpaper etc. Can't turn this into a $600- $700 project....truck bought for $600!!!! HELP!!!! David Alberta
Great job man. I also spray a ton of rustoleum. Two suggestions… 1- keep a hair dryer in your other hand and apply light heat while spraying. Helps with fish eyes and bubbles. 2- use a wider fan. Gets rid of the amateur stripes (tiger stripes).
I always enjoy videos from the common man who learns by doing~! I just bought one of these HF Paint Guns and am trying to paint for the first time and you have helped me a lot and my first object to paint is a metal screen door so I'm not too afraid to learn on this door. As far as leaving your compressor in the direct sunlight I have always compared this to leaving my car in the direct sunlight with the motor running so I would always give it some kind of shade and even a cooling fan if getting constant use. I'm an old man and the sun has destroyed almost everything as far as running machines go. Direct sunlight is an enemy of a million items we use. Thanks for all your effort on this video and best of luck in the future~!
I appreciate the comment! Thanks for watching! Ok I will be sure to keep compressor away from the sun! Good luck on your project! What paint are you going to use? Also many videos in my playlist you may find helpful with painting. Cheers!
I'm preparing to paint my forklift after resurrection! And i know nothing about spraying paint unless its a rattle can job. Your explanation and clear precise filming give me hope that I can pull this project off! Thanks for the help young man!
Just a tip. Hold your gun away the size of your fan. Best is 6-7" fan and 6-7" distance. Love your attitude and aspiration to succeed. Setting a great example!!!!
Thanks and I appreciate that! Trying my best to succeed. This gun has a narrow fan pattern but I know with better guns you get wider fan patterns. God bless
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I love the ironing board table for painting. I use ironing boards for infeed and outfeed tables for my portable table saw. They're cheap (thrift shop), collapsible, and very adjustable, and the stock doesn't roll off onto the floor like those roller jobs do.
Thank you so much for these videos. Your a big part of the reason I have up a 10-x20 carport in my driveway with a taped off PT Cruiser that is about to get a Rustoleum Almond paint job tomorrow. I keep coming back to your videos because of the informative way you put out the information. I'm in my mid 60s and have never ever done anything like this before.
Thanks for the advice I thought you had to wait a day to do the second coat. I tried that and it didn't work out. So it did the three to one ratio and applied the first coat. Waited about 15 minutes and did a second coat. It turned out really good..not bad for a diy and a temperature of upper 60s. I like the 5 seconds test when mixing . I added a splash more mineral spirits and a half part of penetrol. This helps with preventing runs and orange peel.
I had a gloss black paint which I was spraying on a 1942 Chevy business coupe back in the early '90's. I was outside of my garage out back of my house. The paint looked beautiful and was so very, very smooth. I stepped back to admire my work and just then a big gnat landed right on the middle of the freshly painted dash. Like a complete idiot, I reached out and hit the critter with my finger without even thinking. A pretty natural reaction for most folk to do, but it sure did a serious number on that beautiful paint job I had done. (Face slap!). There are inherent unforeseen dangers to painting with any open door or outside, as bugs can be a real issue or a tree leaf can fall right on your work. The worse situation I ever encountered when working outside painting car parts, was when I had my Sato gun in my hand, loaded and ready to go. I had just sprayed a fender to that same old Chevy coupe when I decided to move the hood from being so close to me as I painted. When I shoved that old hood, which had been laying up against the side of my shop, it fell to the ground and a full nest of yellow jackets flew out and headed right toward me. You never say any old fart run as fast as I did, but what was worse is that I pulled the trigger on my spray gun as I ran and accidentally painted several of the pickets to the back yard fence. You never saw so much compressor hose run out as quick as mine did when I was trying to keep from being stung by those angry yellow jackets, but didn't let go of my spray gun. :-) It taught me to keep my painting in the garage and to keep that door closed. Wind, leaves, rain drops, wasps, flies, gnats are all unexpected dangers to outside painting.
Just an idea to get exact ratios for small quantities of mixing the $15 Walmart kitchen food scale measures grams or oz (28g to an oz but for easy conversions I round it to 30g and then math is easy to do in your head). The scale can measure up to 11 pounds, or about a gallon depending on the density of the paint you are weighing. The 16oz clear cups from Walmart are less than $7 per 100, and the jumbo craft stir sticks are about $3.00 for 75. You can save a lot of money instead of using the paint cups for mixing. The clear cups hold up to everything (i.e. acetone, lacquer, lacquer thinner, fiberglass resin, gelcoat, gasoline, oil base, etc). I also clean my guns with gasoline when spraying oil base paint but shoot a little acetone through them before shooting the next time, this saves a lot of money on cleaning thinners. When mixing in your hardener (6%) and/or Japan drier (3%) , it's very easy to get your ratios right on larger quantities, a different scale for smaller quantities. For very small quantities like gelcoat (1.5% catalyst) I have a 50g scale that goes to .001 grams. Anyway, love the video!!!
I've used both mineral spirits (paint thinner) and acetone to thin Rustoleum. I got better results (shorter drying times) with acetone. I also got better results with a 1:1 ratio. Could have had something to do with temps. I'm in Pa. so this time of year, it's pretty cool. Great stuff though, thanks for sharing. God bless, stay well. Also, with yellow, I use the white Rustoleum primer as a primer/sealer base before spraying the yellow. And I use an enamel hardener in both the primer/sealer and the color coat. Gives me great results.
Awesome tips. I recently sprayed some outdoor furniture (also made a video ) and used japan drier and it helped speed up dry times by a lot. I never experimented with enamel hardened but I’m sure the combo works great and speeeds things up. Thanks again god bless You too
what make of hardener and is it a slow, medium or fast. I'm in Nevada and its over 80 degrees. I used a 4:1 for black gloss and I got lots of orange peel. Any ideas - thanks
Ive mixed upol 4:1 clear with Rust-Oleum and hardener. 2:2:1 and also 3:1:1. I have my some concrete in a silver/black mix and my garage door in red. It has been holding up well and has lept its gloss for a few years at this point.
When air is compressed it creates heat and hot air going into the tank creates moisture. If you disconnect the air line that goes into the tank and run it into anything such as a automotive a/c condenser or a roll of copper tubing that gets air flow to cool the air before it goes into the tank it will eliminate almost all water that will accumulate in the system. By doing this a water trap will stay dry and eliminate moisture contamination when painting. (This goes for any air compressor) . Ive been spraying and rolling Rustoleum enamel for 50 years but will never again buy their rattle cans its too bad they cant get those right. P.S. The different colors have different characteristics what works for one might be a bit different for another of the same brand. Happy painting (glad I dont live next door ) LOL !!!
Heat will increase humidity so in general it's better to keep the compressor inside to lower water content in the air. Sometimes the heat in the air can be useful though if you need the product to kick off sooner.
Lots of good info here, only thing I would add is that the strainer isn’t for the benefit of the paint so much as it is the benefit of your gun. The smallest contaminants can plug your gun or cause it to spit.
Good job! I've learned a lot from this 1 video alone. I just discovered your channel. I will check out more of your videos & i am subscribing as well. ✊🏾
Water in the compressor tank is a constant problem. When the air is compressed, it heats up causing it to lose moisture which it leaves in the tank because it condenses in the cold tank. The only way to combat this is to use a dessicant unit in the line from the compressor. Also, if you have an automatic oiler in line to keep your air toos happy you'll have to use a different line when painting.The water problem is worse on high humidity days so check your weather forcast and always drain out your tank before painting as a lot of those mystery spots can be from contaminants that were sucked into your compressor or rust in the tank. Hope this helps. Tim
Also make sure to clean those hf guns really good. I know a guy who used one and he kept getting fish eyes when he sprayed. Come to find out that a silicone grease was used inside for the needle and seats, I guess for when they build the spray guns.
hey young man, great video. Thank you for all your time and money you invest in your videos. Have you tried any hardeners? I tried a 80%/20% acetone and it came out badly. I did not wait long enough between coats and after several days, it wouldn't dry. So I used a putty knife and scrapped it off. I'm going to use your 3:1 ratio and some hardener to see if it will speed the drying time and hope it will flatten out. What do you think? I'm 69 and this was my first attempt with HVLP. I build high performance motorcycles and decide to paint my new drag bike - myself. ??
@@richardbartlett4075 i woukd suggest spray painting it with a regular can. And you can clear coat over it using 2k clear either with a can or HVLP. I dont suggest spraying the oil based rustoleum anymore. It’s harder to spray and takes forever between coats and takes forever to fully cure.
@@BulliKid Never, ever give up! I have accomplished things that I didn't even think I could do. When I get the correct ratio, I'll tell ya what it is. You hang in there and don't believe any of the horseshit that jealous or ignorant people try to pass on to you. I didn't get where I am now by listening to or hanging out with negative people.
In my experience with the rust oleum, a 1.2 tip in a devliss spray gun, and 3:1 mixture using acetone, about 30 static psi, and 15-20 flowing with the needle almost maxed out comes out slick as glass
And since the paint doesn't have an activator use the first number for your paint in the 3 number for the reducer, that would make it even. Just trying to help, love the video
For future reference: Mineral spirits causes longer flash time / good for warmer weather aka 70 or higher Acetone causes faster flash time / better for cooler weather aka lower than 70 This is based on my experience of spraying rustoleum on 3 vehicles so far, one of which was done 3:1 with acetone on a 64 degree day.
I am always a bit weary about spraying when the gun is very low on paint. I have had some guns which will start sputtering or spitting when this happens and it can easily ruin even the best coating you have done. I also believe that most pros have their own built in biases as to the use of mineral spirits vs acetone as a thinner for paint. In reality, if they removed their own personal biases on the matter, then they probably could not find much of a difference in either of them to have any non-pro doing a better paint job. Just my own opinion though, but that is what you wanted us to share with you. I ultimately went to a much bigger compressor for all my own paint work, so I can't really say about the temp and all of having it outside or inside. The bigger compressors were always too heavy to move about and too expensive to have outside where thieves could walk away with them. Personally, I am guessing that it really plays very little as to an effect, unless the outside weather is a real condition to contend with anyway. Hey, but just a total guess on my part.
What about using paint thinner instead of mineral spirits or acetone? The Home Depot guys steered me in that direction but they didn’t seem especially knowledgeable about mixing paints for Havlicek usage..
Thanks for doing that. Very informative. I have an old truck that I'd like to paint inexpensively, and I've been considering this method. Not sure what the answer is yet.
I bought custom paint and it said 1:1 but when I sprayed it it came out like colored water, wouldn’t cover nothing, had to sand and start over, I’m going to try 2:1 next
very helpful! thanks. I can't wait to get painting. I don't think it matters where you keep your compressor. Outside, it will stir up less dust as it runs than it would in your garage. Mine compressor is too big to move.
even though the gun says it has a maximum pressure rating of 20 or 25 lb you can go above that and get a little bit better finish especially with the thicker material
Hey bud. Decent job learning! As for your compressor, heat is what creates moisture...but I don’t think the sun is making it much hotter in the tank then the engine pushing the air in is. Some people have their 60-80 gallon tank in small closets to help eliminate the noise...I imaging those rooms get super hot! Even if they are vented.
I will be making a custom aerosol can with butane propellent & the thinner may differ, but hope 1:1 is not too thin & drippy by the time 50% propellant is added, for a 20 psi spray cap. Thick & splattery is not desired. Experiments.
Ive never thinned out rustolium before- straight outta can into a binks cupgun i have a hood i sprayed gloss black about 25 years ago (its 2024 now) and it still looks good- whats with the thinning and hardeners?? Is it necessary really??
I question how you are reading your "air pressure". You should read the pressure with the trigger pulled. I would guess that you have the regulator on the compressor set at 30 psi. Your flow while spraying is dropping to near "0". When setting up your pattern, don't move the gun. Just give it a quick spert--- then "read" your pattern and set the fan accordingly. I was taught to start out with the "fan" closed and shoot a spot to check my volume. Once I have the volume set then I start opening the fan and doing quick shots.(suggestion--"How to Setup the Perfect PSI on Your spray Gun" by Paint Society
Your compressor should always be in a cool area because heat will create condensation inside the tank which will travel through the air hose and into your gun and paint but all in all nice job
Well the gun is $10 and paint will run you $30 for gallon. Barrow a compressor from a friend. Brush works too. Just don’t dilute too much. Thicker is better if you roll it
Is the paint not drying in the cup and gun during the 15 min dry times? Ive seen people remove the cup and spray a little acetone through the gun to keep it from drying. Has this been an issue ? Whats the lingest time you can keep the gun loaded ?
I do equipment painting. I shoot Rusto all the time, and I use Acetone. 1-1, means you're not getting that much paint on the surface. 3-1 is perfect. anything more, and it won't shot and lay down as smooth.
Yup 3-1 is able to shoot out and spray well. But I never tried 3-1 with acetone just mineral spirits since acetone will dilute more in a 3-1 then mineral spirits
Fan seemed very tight two passes should have done that small of a piece You could put a fan in front of the compressor if you do anything bigger and get by really need more storage also just bought a 1/2" line based on the high volume needed mentioned by another chanel
I’m sure those spots are water from the compressor. Keeping the compressor tank in the shade will slightly reduce water in the air supply, but not by a lot. A small desiccant air dryer would make a huge difference.
I do not. Seems like way to much work and mess. I just used run off time from the stick for Rustoleum but once I figured out mixing ratios. Such as 1:1 2:1 3:1 I just use those and the run off time doesn’t matter. Run off time can differ based on the amount of fluid you are mixing up and just to many variations.
Great informative video! Maybe I missed it in the video but do you recommend using hardener with this ratio? Looking at painting a tractor soon with rustoleum paint.
@@brianstasierowski7502 use mixing ratios for pain and thinner only. And use the instructions on Japan drier. You only add a cap full I believe. It is also tinted so be careful it doesn’t change the color
I am barely learning how to spray what is the best way to adjust your gun I'm having problems adjusting my gun appreciate it if you could help me out thank you very much
There is no best way. It all dependent on What you are painting , What size it is, what paint and mixing ratio you are using. In general fan pattern mostly open and have the psi around 25-35 psi range. The fluid tip if it is open to much may spray to much paint on an area and you will get runs too. It’s ok if you fail the first few times you try to paint. ThTs how you learn. I’m still learning every time I paint.
Quit using that wax remover and tack remover in between coats and spray closer like 3-4 inches. You should also sand/smooth out your primer coat better because spray paint isnt meant to fill in scratches.
Great info. Have you tried adding a hardener? I rolled my 63 Falcon 10 years ago using Rusto/mineral spirits/hardener. Still looks awesome. I’m restoring a 65 Mustang now but I want to spray this one. Love your videos and drive.
I have not used a hardener but I have used japan drier and it helps with dry time. Wow 10 years and looks good is great results in my book!!! Spraying will leave a better finish for sure. Just have to play around because the more you dilute the less glossy the finish becomes.
@@corvettec8miamiracing259 are usually spray 3 coats. Usually around 45 mins apart. This paint takes forever to dry so it’s not gonna clog up real fast but I probably wouldn’t sprayed after two or three hours after your last coat.
You may want to revisit this subject..topic... Rust-Oleum label " 15" percent acetone mix ratio...?.... furthermore some people are using mineral spirits or lacquer thinner all to thin....if that not hard enough clean metal vs clean plastic further questions.... mineral spirits mix sprayed on newer bumper cover and got runs ....flat surface are not likely to run however curves ..car doors... vertical surface rustoleum and mineral spirits mix sprayed had runs...... lastly am thinking that aectone rustoleum mix may "flash" better in cooler temps as mineral spirits may be a summer time temp mix .... thanks
penetrol and flowtrol are coditioners to delay drying for a more even coat. Used more for brushing and rolling to reduce paintIng marks. Maybe it would be helpful when spraying with a round/conical tip to reduce striping but that is conjecture.
Your not using the cup right... The second number on your cup is for activator the third number on the cup is for reducer. You should do your mixes by ounces,
@@BulliKid haha, i don't know which is the best choice ratio , here in Malaysia , our temperature is high than your country a tropical climate , so what your recommend for my suitable ratio mixing 😅
I would probably use acetone to dry faster in that warm climate. 2:1 is you want clarity and possibly no wet sanding. But you may run the paint. 3:1 if you just want it to lay down nice and thick and very low chance of running the paint. 🤞 goodluck!
Acetone is much faster drying, mineral spirits will give you a longer drying time like in warmer weather, acetone is good when it's cold to get the paint dry, naphtha is slow drying as well, but faster than thinner or mineral spirits, but getting harder to find
Owlster that is a good question. I used a primer from rustoleum before with like a 3:1 and it sprayed down nice. I still sanded the primer to be sure it’s smooth so the mixing ratio for primer doesn’t have to be as good as the final topcoat.
Keep your fluid mixture completely open all the time open your fan pattern up more would your fluid make sure at Max just move faster you don't have to keep playing with that fluid mixture I always leave mine wide open sometimes with it down too far you are spraying too much air and causing fisheye an orange peel open your fan up more turn the mixture up and just move a little faster and see how that does I've painted many many cars and boats and I have never played with a mixture it is always completely open and you know that you don't always have to pull that trigger all the way back you'll learn. And one more thing the thinning your paint is the better than shine will always be the smaller the droplets the shinier but you are inviting runs one little more trick when you're done spraying but you little but if you're thinner and your cup shake it up and hit it at the end real fast and you will bring a lot of shine out it will all actually lay the paint now especially if you have some orange peel and when you're doing a heavy metallic it will lay the flights down I do it on everything job but I typically use real paint what it will work when Restylane the same way
I watched a lot of videos about rustoleum prior to using it on some metal cabinets; however, noneof them came close to being as useful as this one. With no prior experience, I was able to achieve great results utilizing the recommendations of this video and it was very easy to follow the instructions. I wish you all the best in your future videos.
Thank you for the comment and I’m glad they were useful :)
i've painted cars boats trucks motorcycles for 50 years,i knew one of you guys would figure out or experiment with the mix,the paint job is in the mix,you have found the holy grail of painting,want you to know that,the rest is drying times and flashing times,you spent the money on the paints and thinners thats' where the learning is,and also the prep is everything,i'm telling you this cause you showed me the mixes of the rustoleum materials,i'll be using the 1to 1 in the booths and the 2 to one elsewhere,paint booths ,all of them do one thing exceptional,they rid the area of overspray and the dry the finishes quickly,all necessary for QUALITY WORK,THANKS PAINTER
Thanks friend!! Goodluck
I watch a lot of instructional videos and I’m here to tell you, you’re doing it right. The pace and how you covered the subject was really good. So many people waste too much time on needless banter and details that aren’t pertinent. You kept me interested the whole video and i learned something. Keep it up 👍
Thanks brother! That’s the comment I love to see. Thanks for posting it and help me grow by subscribing!
BULLI KID Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more from you.
I agree with Mark, I'll be checking out your other content. Thanks for the video man.
Ive been hobby painting cars for 40 years. I too like to play with the rustoleum paint products. Your technique is good but I would suggest using a wider fan pattern on the gun. Narrow is good for doing door jambs and cutting in, but will kill you with tiger stripes if you ever start shooting metallics, Otherwise nice job. Good to see young guys out there making it happen !
sail235aeh hey thanks brother! I really do need wider fan pattern. But I feel like I need to open the fluid a lot more to get that wide pattern. And then I feel like there is just to much pint laying down. Some say at that point move further away. I need to experiment more next season. But yes I noticed that’s one thing I still didn’t finesse.
@@BulliKid Youre doing great ! Dont let anyone tell you any different.
I'm doing my old hauling truck just for something to do this spring/summer with roller brushes and 4" brushes.
My issue: I cant afford compressor for 1 . 1/2 job F150 truck/'98 Honda Civic touch ups(CYPRESS GREEN PEARL color).
Christ I need direction/informatio !!! Help!!! Any references?
I've paid enough already for polish, sandpaper etc. Can't turn this into a $600- $700 project....truck bought for $600!!!!
HELP!!!!
David
Alberta
Not sure I can help. Compressor is 150$ and you can you it forever.
@@BulliKidit nit my hobby ....yet
Great job man. I also spray a ton of rustoleum.
Two suggestions…
1- keep a hair dryer in your other hand and apply light heat while spraying. Helps with fish eyes and bubbles.
2- use a wider fan. Gets rid of the amateur stripes (tiger stripes).
How do you mix it in to a metallic? Im just learning
You have to add flake in the paint
You've got a great attitude about learning and experimenting to develop new skills, it will serve you well in life. Best of luck to you young man.
Thanks for this comment. I needed that! God bless!
I always enjoy videos from the common man who learns by doing~! I just bought one of these HF Paint Guns and am trying to paint for the first time and you have helped me a lot and my first object to paint is a metal screen door so I'm not too afraid to learn on this door. As far as leaving your compressor in the direct sunlight I have always compared this to leaving my car in the direct sunlight with the motor running so I would always give it some kind of shade and even a cooling fan if getting constant use. I'm an old man and the sun has destroyed almost everything as far as running machines go. Direct sunlight is an enemy of a million items we use. Thanks for all your effort on this video and best of luck in the future~!
I appreciate the comment! Thanks for watching! Ok I will be sure to keep compressor away from the sun! Good luck on your project! What paint are you going to use? Also many videos in my playlist you may find helpful with painting. Cheers!
I'm preparing to paint my forklift after resurrection! And i know nothing about spraying paint unless its a rattle can job. Your explanation and clear precise filming give me hope that I can pull this project off! Thanks for the help young man!
Welcome!! You can do it best of luck!!!
Just a tip. Hold your gun away the size of your fan. Best is 6-7" fan and 6-7" distance. Love your attitude and aspiration to succeed. Setting a great example!!!!
Thanks and I appreciate that! Trying my best to succeed. This gun has a narrow fan pattern but I know with better guns you get wider fan patterns. God bless
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I love the ironing board table for painting. I use ironing boards for infeed and outfeed tables for my portable table saw. They're cheap (thrift shop), collapsible, and very adjustable, and the stock doesn't roll off onto the floor like those roller jobs do.
Hell yea! Use what I got!
Thank you so much for these videos. Your a big part of the reason I have up a 10-x20 carport in my driveway with a taped off PT Cruiser that is about to get a Rustoleum Almond paint job tomorrow. I keep coming back to your videos because of the informative way you put out the information. I'm in my mid 60s and have never ever done anything like this before.
Thank you for the comment. I’m glD I can help with the videos. I hope the PT comes out looking good!! 🤞
4:1:1. Paint:acetone:hardener.
Mix really well.
Thanks for the advice
I thought you had to wait a day to do the second coat. I tried that and it didn't work out. So it did the three to one ratio and applied the first coat. Waited about 15 minutes and did a second coat. It turned out really good..not bad for a diy and a temperature of upper 60s. I like the 5 seconds test when mixing . I added a splash more mineral spirits and a half part of penetrol. This helps with preventing runs and orange peel.
I used a 4:1 on my rustoleum. Paint job came out fine but paint had to be forced out. Only had to do 2 coats. Will try 1:1 next time🤣
I had a gloss black paint which I was spraying on a 1942 Chevy business coupe back in the early '90's. I was outside of my garage out back of my house. The paint looked beautiful and was so very, very smooth. I stepped back to admire my work and just then a big gnat landed right on the middle of the freshly painted dash. Like a complete idiot, I reached out and hit the critter with my finger without even thinking. A pretty natural reaction for most folk to do, but it sure did a serious number on that beautiful paint job I had done. (Face slap!). There are inherent unforeseen dangers to painting with any open door or outside, as bugs can be a real issue or a tree leaf can fall right on your work. The worse situation I ever encountered when working outside painting car parts, was when I had my Sato gun in my hand, loaded and ready to go. I had just sprayed a fender to that same old Chevy coupe when I decided to move the hood from being so close to me as I painted. When I shoved that old hood, which had been laying up against the side of my shop, it fell to the ground and a full nest of yellow jackets flew out and headed right toward me. You never say any old fart run as fast as I did, but what was worse is that I pulled the trigger on my spray gun as I ran and accidentally painted several of the pickets to the back yard fence. You never saw so much compressor hose run out as quick as mine did when I was trying to keep from being stung by those angry yellow jackets, but didn't let go of my spray gun. :-) It taught me to keep my painting in the garage and to keep that door closed. Wind, leaves, rain drops, wasps, flies, gnats are all unexpected dangers to outside painting.
Amazing story! Thanks for sharing!
Just an idea to get exact ratios for small quantities of mixing the $15 Walmart kitchen food scale measures grams or oz (28g to an oz but for easy conversions I round it to 30g and then math is easy to do in your head). The scale can measure up to 11 pounds, or about a gallon depending on the density of the paint you are weighing. The 16oz clear cups from Walmart are less than $7 per 100, and the jumbo craft stir sticks are about $3.00 for 75. You can save a lot of money instead of using the paint cups for mixing. The clear cups hold up to everything (i.e. acetone, lacquer, lacquer thinner, fiberglass resin, gelcoat, gasoline, oil base, etc). I also clean my guns with gasoline when spraying oil base paint but shoot a little acetone through them before shooting the next time, this saves a lot of money on cleaning thinners.
When mixing in your hardener (6%) and/or Japan drier (3%) , it's very easy to get your ratios right on larger quantities, a different scale for smaller quantities. For very small quantities like gelcoat (1.5% catalyst) I have a 50g scale that goes to .001 grams.
Anyway, love the video!!!
Thanks for all of them Smart ideas!
Keep up the good work on your present videos and your future endeavors!
You would make an outstanding teacher of any automotive trade!
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I’ve heard that adding hardener helps with shine, durability, and accelerates drying. I’m going to try, thanks for video.
I have used Japan drier and it helped with dry time. I have never used a Hardner I think the Hardner would have to be oil based
@@BulliKid it’s the one for farm equipment it’s intended for enamel. But if you’re adding 2k clear over you should be good. Thanks
I've used both mineral spirits (paint thinner) and acetone to thin Rustoleum. I got better results (shorter drying times) with acetone. I also got better results with a 1:1 ratio. Could have had something to do with temps. I'm in Pa. so this time of year, it's pretty cool. Great stuff though, thanks for sharing. God bless, stay well. Also, with yellow, I use the white Rustoleum primer as a primer/sealer base before spraying the yellow. And I use an enamel hardener in both the primer/sealer and the color coat. Gives me great results.
Awesome tips. I recently sprayed some outdoor furniture (also made a video ) and used japan drier and it helped speed up dry times by a lot. I never experimented with enamel hardened but I’m sure the combo works great and speeeds things up. Thanks again god bless You too
what make of hardener and is it a slow, medium or fast. I'm in Nevada and its over 80 degrees. I used a 4:1 for black gloss and I got lots of orange peel. Any ideas - thanks
Ive mixed upol 4:1 clear with Rust-Oleum and hardener. 2:2:1 and also 3:1:1. I have my some concrete in a silver/black mix and my garage door in red. It has been holding up well and has lept its gloss for a few years at this point.
Thanks these are really handy spray painting tips Brother
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When air is compressed it creates heat and hot air going into the tank creates moisture. If you disconnect the air line that goes into the tank and run it into anything such as a automotive a/c condenser or a roll of copper tubing that gets air flow to cool the air before it goes into the tank it will eliminate almost all water that will accumulate in the system. By doing this a water trap will stay dry and eliminate moisture contamination when painting. (This goes for any air compressor) . Ive been spraying and rolling Rustoleum enamel for 50 years but will never again buy their rattle cans its too bad they cant get those right. P.S. The different colors have different characteristics what works for one might be a bit different for another of the same brand. Happy painting (glad I dont live next door ) LOL !!!
Heat will increase humidity so in general it's better to keep the compressor inside to lower water content in the air. Sometimes the heat in the air can be useful though if you need the product to kick off sooner.
Colton McCormack thanks!
Lots of good info here, only thing I would add is that the strainer isn’t for the benefit of the paint so much as it is the benefit of your gun. The smallest contaminants can plug your gun or cause it to spit.
Excellent point! Thanks.
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Good job! I've learned a lot from this 1 video alone. I just discovered your channel. I will check out more of your videos & i am subscribing as well. ✊🏾
Thanks brother! Welcome!
Water in the compressor tank is a constant problem. When the air is compressed, it heats up causing it to lose moisture which it leaves in the tank because it condenses in the cold tank. The only way to combat this is to use a dessicant unit in the line from the compressor. Also, if you have an automatic oiler in line to keep your air toos happy you'll have to use a different line when painting.The water problem is worse on high humidity days so check your weather forcast and always drain out your tank before painting as a lot of those mystery spots can be from contaminants that were sucked into your compressor or rust in the tank. Hope this helps. Tim
Thanks Tim!
I also use a water separator at the compressor. Nice video! 👍
Thanks!
Also make sure to clean those hf guns really good. I know a guy who used one and he kept getting fish eyes when he sprayed. Come to find out that a silicone grease was used inside for the needle and seats, I guess for when they build the spray guns.
@@Dangbo3030 I noticed there is a bunch of that in this gun.
hey young man, great video. Thank you for all your time and money you invest in your videos. Have you tried any hardeners? I tried a 80%/20% acetone and it came out badly. I did not wait long enough between coats and after several days, it wouldn't dry. So I used a putty knife and scrapped it off. I'm going to use your 3:1 ratio and some hardener to see if it will speed the drying time and hope it will flatten out. What do you think? I'm 69 and this was my first attempt with HVLP. I build high performance motorcycles and decide to paint my new drag bike - myself. ??
@@richardbartlett4075 i woukd suggest spray painting it with a regular can. And you can clear coat over it using 2k clear either with a can or HVLP.
I dont suggest spraying the oil based rustoleum anymore. It’s harder to spray and takes forever between coats and takes forever to fully cure.
@@BulliKid Never, ever give up! I have accomplished things that I didn't even think I could do. When I get the correct ratio, I'll tell ya what it is. You hang in there and don't believe any of the horseshit that jealous or ignorant people try to pass on to you. I didn't get where I am now by listening to or hanging out with negative people.
In my experience with the rust oleum, a 1.2 tip in a devliss spray gun, and 3:1 mixture using acetone, about 30 static psi, and 15-20 flowing with the needle almost maxed out comes out slick as glass
Thanks for your experienced tip!
The gun has a lot to do with it too
Lol nice
What I want to know is how less of the paint thinner can you get away with and still spray using rustolium. I got that Purple spray gun too LOL
dude, u r da best!! tnx so much
No problem man hope the video helped!! Thanks for the comment.
And since the paint doesn't have an activator use the first number for your paint in the 3 number for the reducer, that would make it even. Just trying to help, love the video
Cris Dilleshaw thanks
Fisheye. 5/2/.3 of hardener works well.
For future reference:
Mineral spirits causes longer flash time / good for warmer weather aka 70 or higher
Acetone causes faster flash time / better for cooler weather aka lower than 70
This is based on my experience of spraying rustoleum on 3 vehicles so far, one of which was done 3:1 with acetone on a 64 degree day.
Thanks!
What about using paint thinner as the solvent? Is that an appropriate substitute to acetone or mineral spirits? Thx in advance
Yes it would work well too. They all change the viscosity a little bit.
I am always a bit weary about spraying when the gun is very low on paint. I have had some guns which will start sputtering or spitting when this happens and it can easily ruin even the best coating you have done. I also believe that most pros have their own built in biases as to the use of mineral spirits vs acetone as a thinner for paint. In reality, if they removed their own personal biases on the matter, then they probably could not find much of a difference in either of them to have any non-pro doing a better paint job. Just my own opinion though, but that is what you wanted us to share with you. I ultimately went to a much bigger compressor for all my own paint work, so I can't really say about the temp and all of having it outside or inside. The bigger compressors were always too heavy to move about and too expensive to have outside where thieves could walk away with them. Personally, I am guessing that it really plays very little as to an effect, unless the outside weather is a real condition to contend with anyway. Hey, but just a total guess on my part.
Thanks! Do you paint for a hobby ?
What about using paint thinner instead of mineral spirits or acetone? The Home Depot guys steered me in that direction but they didn’t seem especially knowledgeable about mixing paints for Havlicek usage..
Hvlp*
Either one would be ok.
Thanks for doing that. Very informative. I have an old truck that I'd like to paint inexpensively, and I've been considering this method. Not sure what the answer is yet.
Rustoleum is good
I bought custom paint and it said 1:1 but when I sprayed it it came out like colored water, wouldn’t cover nothing, had to sand and start over, I’m going to try 2:1 next
very helpful! thanks. I can't wait to get painting. I don't think it matters where you keep your compressor. Outside, it will stir up less dust as it runs than it would in your garage. Mine compressor is too big to move.
even though the gun says it has a maximum pressure rating of 20 or 25 lb you can go above that and get a little bit better finish especially with the thicker material
Will shoot with 35psi next time around.
Hey bud. Decent job learning!
As for your compressor, heat is what creates moisture...but I don’t think the sun is making it much hotter in the tank then the engine pushing the air in is. Some people have their 60-80 gallon tank in small closets to help eliminate the noise...I imaging those rooms get super hot! Even if they are vented.
Hey thanks for the reply.
Great video !!!
Thanks!
Do not use acetone or mineral spirits with enamel. Use enamel reducer such as xylol.
I will be making a custom aerosol can with butane propellent & the thinner may differ, but hope 1:1 is not too thin & drippy by the time 50% propellant is added, for a 20 psi spray cap. Thick & splattery is not desired. Experiments.
Ive never thinned out rustolium before- straight outta can into a binks cupgun i have a hood i sprayed gloss black about 25 years ago (its 2024 now) and it still looks good- whats with the thinning and hardeners?? Is it necessary really??
I question how you are reading your "air pressure". You should read the pressure with the trigger pulled. I would guess that you have the regulator on the compressor set at 30 psi. Your flow while spraying is dropping to near "0". When setting up your pattern, don't move the gun. Just give it a quick spert--- then "read" your pattern and set the fan accordingly. I was taught to start out with the "fan" closed and shoot a spot to check my volume. Once I have the volume set then I start opening the fan and doing quick shots.(suggestion--"How to Setup the Perfect PSI on Your spray Gun" by Paint Society
Thanks!!!
What psi should i be using with a HF gun at 3:1ratio? Thanks in advance !
Your compressor should always be in a cool area because heat will create condensation inside the tank which will travel through the air hose and into your gun and paint but all in all nice job
Thanks!
You need a water separator. $18.00. Attaches directly to the gun. Has a bleed value.
I have the filter at the gun.
Man that should be like a two pass panel
That pattern is crazy right
Im not buying a compressor nor a speay gun. Im using a rolker & 4" spng brush for old truck. Your thoughts ( i refuse to use yellow paint)!!!
What will I do with all that equipment once I'm finished with one truck and a touched up Honda?
Well the gun is $10 and paint will run you $30 for gallon. Barrow a compressor from a friend. Brush works too. Just don’t dilute too much. Thicker is better if you roll it
Be prepared for it to look like it was painted with a roller then.
Great video. You have a new sub.
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Is the paint not drying in the cup and gun during the 15 min dry times? Ive seen people remove the cup and spray a little acetone through the gun to keep it from drying. Has this been an issue ? Whats the lingest time you can keep the gun loaded ?
@@jagerk9 no the oil base paint won’t dry. I’ve had it in for 2-3 hours with no issues.
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I do equipment painting. I shoot Rusto all the time, and I use Acetone. 1-1, means you're not getting that much paint on the surface. 3-1 is perfect. anything more, and it won't shot and lay down as smooth.
Yup 3-1 is able to shoot out and spray well. But I never tried 3-1 with acetone just mineral spirits since acetone will dilute more in a 3-1 then mineral spirits
Do I need a hardener when shooting this? Or can I get away with not using it
You don’t need it.
Fan seemed very tight two passes should have done that small of a piece
You could put a fan in front of the compressor if you do anything bigger and get by really need more storage also just bought a 1/2" line based on the high volume needed mentioned by another chanel
Yea the fan is very small on this gun
Good information
Thanks. Check out other newer videos in my playlist. More info for you my friend. Goodluck! Subscribe for support.
I thought "run off time" was from start of steady stream to stop of steady stream ? Not drips ? I'm just a amateur painter asking ? Thanks
I guess it can very that’s how I did it.
You want to keep compressor cool. Think air conditioning. The cold air removes moisture.
Thanks that’s the info I needed!
Thank you for the videos. What size nozzle did you use?
Hey. It’s all from a 1.4
I usually use a strainer when putting the paint in the gun?
I thought everyone did??
I’m sure those spots are water from the compressor. Keeping the compressor tank in the shade will slightly reduce water in the air supply, but not by a lot.
A small desiccant air dryer would make a huge difference.
Sometimes if you're looking for a better finish turn the air pressure on your gun up a little
I heard you have to treat this like clear. Shoot with higher psi.
When I saw your painting video headline I thought if you were painting today you must be freeze drying the paint. lol
Hahah. Yea I would def freeze. I have some old content I finally had time to edit and upload! 😬
Hey, great video. I'm currently spraying this exact paint using a HVLP setup. What tip size are you using? Thanks!
These guns come with the 1.4 tip
I've been painting for 15 years I paint cars yachts all types of things
Hobby or career ?
@@BulliKid this is how I pay my bills
Nice vid, do you ever use the ford cup to chech the viscosity? Good luck
I do not. Seems like way to much work and mess. I just used run off time from the stick for Rustoleum but once I figured out mixing ratios. Such as 1:1 2:1 3:1 I just use those and the run off time doesn’t matter. Run off time can differ based on the amount of fluid you are mixing up and just to many variations.
Great informative video! Maybe I missed it in the video but do you recommend using hardener with this ratio? Looking at painting a tractor soon with rustoleum paint.
I only used Japan drier with oil based and it worked great.
@@BulliKidwould I use that in place of hardener in this ratio? Using the measuring cup following the numbers
@@brianstasierowski7502 use mixing ratios for pain and thinner only. And use the instructions on Japan drier. You only add a cap full I believe. It is also tinted so be careful it doesn’t change the color
Like your show what Gardner would you use for this paint
that should be hardner
I recently tried japan drier and it worked very well
thanks very handy i want to spray my bike and tank with rusto
you can do it!
I am barely learning how to spray what is the best way to adjust your gun I'm having problems adjusting my gun appreciate it if you could help me out thank you very much
There is no best way. It all dependent on What you are painting , What size it is, what paint and mixing ratio you are using. In general fan pattern mostly open and have the psi around 25-35 psi range. The fluid tip if it is open to much may spray to much paint on an area and you will get runs too. It’s ok if you fail the first few times you try to paint. ThTs how you learn. I’m still learning every time I paint.
Can I or should I spray a clear coat over the rustoleum enamel paint on my motorcycle?
Mark Froats if you want max protection yes you can. Just sand the rustoleum with 600 -800 and spray clear.
Correct me if I’m wrong, rust oleum is an oil based paint, so you should also stick with oil based clear
No.
What spray tip are you using ,does it matter when change ratios?
1.4 m tip
yes the tip and ratios go hand in hand
4 to 3 is my magic ratio
Thanks for feedback.
how long will it take the paint to start drys in your gun ? And you did not use any hardener ?
Maybe a few hours. No hardener in the oil based paint.
3:1. What size is your gun needle.
1.4
I love your videos but like your accent best of all. Where the hell are you from? (smile)
Acetone or mineral which is better.
I would use acetone as it dries faster.
Mineral better for flow out to some degree.
Quit using that wax remover and tack remover in between coats and spray closer like 3-4 inches. You should also sand/smooth out your primer coat better because spray paint isnt meant to fill in scratches.
Thanks for the tips
Great info. Have you tried adding a hardener? I rolled my 63 Falcon 10 years ago using Rusto/mineral spirits/hardener. Still looks awesome. I’m restoring a 65 Mustang now but I want to spray this one. Love your videos and drive.
I have not used a hardener but I have used japan drier and it helps with dry time. Wow 10 years and looks good is great results in my book!!! Spraying will leave a better finish for sure. Just have to play around because the more you dilute the less glossy the finish becomes.
BULLI KID thanks. Here is my website on the Falcon. bobs1963fordfalconconvertible.jimdofree.com.
bob Kurmis looks good !! Did you just roll on and that’s it or did you buff after?
BULLI KID cut and buffed about 2 weeks after
bob Kurmis looks great!
Good evening thank you for the classes ,how long can the paint stay in the spray gun between coats before it starts drying..
@@corvettec8miamiracing259 are usually spray 3 coats. Usually around 45 mins apart. This paint takes forever to dry so it’s not gonna clog up real fast but I probably wouldn’t sprayed after two or three hours after your last coat.
@@BulliKid Thank you very much for your time young man you make good videos.
@@corvettec8miamiracing259 thanks boss. More painting videos coming soon I have been away from it but I miss it.
You may want to revisit this subject..topic... Rust-Oleum label " 15" percent acetone mix ratio...?.... furthermore some people are using mineral spirits or lacquer thinner all to thin....if that not hard enough clean metal vs clean plastic further questions.... mineral spirits mix sprayed on newer bumper cover and got runs ....flat surface are not likely to run however curves ..car doors... vertical surface rustoleum and mineral spirits mix sprayed had runs...... lastly am thinking that aectone rustoleum mix may "flash" better in cooler temps as mineral spirits may be a summer time temp mix .... thanks
Good observations!
I am a pure painting virgin, but I'm doing my old hauling truck. Bono rustolium etc.
Is mineral spirits paint thinner or aceton?
David Weum I used both. But acetone will dry faster.
It's more expensive in Canada
Would you show how you clean the gun?
Jerry ignacio yes I did make a video I never posted. I can post it this week sometime.
Have you tried adding Penetrol? Nice video
Have not added anything for cost purposes. What is Penetrol? A hardener?
penetrol and flowtrol are coditioners to delay drying for a more even coat. Used more for brushing and rolling to reduce paintIng marks. Maybe it would be helpful when spraying with a round/conical tip to reduce striping but that is conjecture.
Your not using the cup right... The second number on your cup is for activator the third number on the cup is for reducer. You should do your mixes by ounces,
You are right. But I don’t use activator for this paint job. So I figured I would replace activator with reducer. I think it should still work well
I will look into it.
So now what your recommend , use 3-1 or 1-1 better? I planning to painting my old car with enamel paint
Jack Shinoda it’s a tricky subject. I am working on a video to answer that question also will have 2:1 In The equation.
@@BulliKid haha, i don't know which is the best choice ratio , here in Malaysia , our temperature is high than your country a tropical climate , so what your recommend for my suitable ratio mixing 😅
Okay I will choose the 2:1 ratio , hopefully it nice with last finishing
I would probably use acetone to dry faster in that warm climate. 2:1 is you want clarity and possibly no wet sanding.
But you may run the paint.
3:1 if you just want it to lay down nice and thick and very low chance of running the paint. 🤞 goodluck!
@@BulliKid tq for your recommendation bro , i will try 2:1 ratio , here my country temperature is 32°c to 36°c Celsius
So if your painting a car with a big area to cover...what psi do you recommend?
Midship91 the bigger the better.
30-50 gallon min
Acetone is much faster drying, mineral spirits will give you a longer drying time like in warmer weather, acetone is good when it's cold to get the paint dry, naphtha is slow drying as well, but faster than thinner or mineral spirits, but getting harder to find
I guess better to use acetone with rustoleum.
I figured that as well that each one having different evaporation rate would be used much like hardeners in which it varies according to temperature.
Can restoleum be clear coated?
Yes. Check out my playlist I have a video on that!!
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Can I do this with enamel hardener then spray 2k clear ?
Yes but probably best to sand the first coat. I will experiment with this.
Is it a good idea to use this mix ratio with Rustoleum latex primer?
Owlster that is a good question. I used a primer from rustoleum before with like a 3:1 and it sprayed down nice. I still sanded the primer to be sure it’s smooth so the mixing ratio for primer doesn’t have to be as good as the final topcoat.
@@BulliKid Thank you. I'll try it out.
Need a massive tank
If your painting just get one somehow
I have a question can you mix activator with oil based paint? Will it hurt or help anything ?
Speeds up the dry process.
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Keep your fluid mixture completely open all the time open your fan pattern up more would your fluid make sure at Max just move faster you don't have to keep playing with that fluid mixture I always leave mine wide open sometimes with it down too far you are spraying too much air and causing fisheye an orange peel open your fan up more turn the mixture up and just move a little faster and see how that does I've painted many many cars and boats and I have never played with a mixture it is always completely open and you know that you don't always have to pull that trigger all the way back you'll learn. And one more thing the thinning your paint is the better than shine will always be the smaller the droplets the shinier but you are inviting runs one little more trick when you're done spraying but you little but if you're thinner and your cup shake it up and hit it at the end real fast and you will bring a lot of shine out it will all actually lay the paint now especially if you have some orange peel and when you're doing a heavy metallic it will lay the flights down I do it on everything job but I typically use real paint what it will work when Restylane the same way
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Hey ah... what tip size, the most important information is left out.
Gary Muir it’s a 1.4 tip.