The BEST Guide to DIY Home Automotive Rust Repair!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- In this video we will show you how to use DIY Equipment to properly repair rust the correct way! If you are interested in a quick fix, this is NOT the video for you. We will take you through all the steps of the process in order to complete a beautiful long-lasting repair!
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I was one of the "spray can repair" people, then got a used 26 gallon compressor, an Areopro R500 gun and never looked back.
Now I get consistent, much better results.
Thanks Brian for another cool video 👍
Brian, I just finished painting my corvette hood and front bumper. I watched so many of your videos about B/C Clearcoat prep. and how to achieve a great result, well it payed off, it came out fantastic. I followed everything you said to do and bought the right spray gun you recommenced off your store. Oh, I did this in my garage and I'm so glad I took the time to leran from you. Thank you so much you're a great teacher in both your professions.
Awesome!!!! Ty. Glad it worked
I was curious if you would ever access the backside through a drain hole that you could create and then plug and spray corrosion protection on the panel's backside. Excellent DYI.
If he doesn’t, it’s just going to rot out fast with all that welding having burned off the primer coat on the inside.. Good video otherwise…
Wish you guys watched the end of the videos
@@PaintSociety my apologies - I got pulled away and somehow it skipped to the end. You made a really good video of a repair that will last for years. Kudos!
@@PaintSociety I did watch the entire video, showing some minor spritzing through a screw hole at the inner fender wheel opening is not coating the inside of the panel adequately. It will just rust through from the inside.
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Please advise, I was trying to find my notes on products that I saw used on one of those Car and/or Truck shows. I remember It is a product that you can spray on your vehicle to stop the rust from spreading and yet it protects the patina - I think it is good stop-gap until you can prepare and paint your vehicle. I own a 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 and the clearcoat is basically destroyed on the hood and roof; the sides have a lot of scratches due to bungee cords used while covering the truck with a tarp to impede water leaking into the passenger cab for approximately four years-(4-yrs).
Vice grip garage has a product and poppy's sweet patina that Dylan mcCool uses. I forget what budget buildz uses...
That is a very nice job! I also want to do this on my car, I have a few rust spots that need fixing. What do you do with the rest of the can that still has some 2k clear coat or primer in it? Because I'm guessing it's going to harden in a day or so in the can.
You can preserve any 2k leftovers if you put it in the fridge for about a week maybe more until the day its ready to be used again. Let it get back to room temp hours before spraying it
It's funny how an experienced Auto Body person calls his orbital sander a DA. Orbital sanders are single action not dual action . You can't grind with an orbital sander
Love your body shop helper. Good to see see your a Family Man love it
Damn bro didn't even practice before welding that 😅.He could have tested the settings on the welder for better welds as he clearly had the material...
Attention BB welding trolls; ATTACK!🤣🤣. Brian must have a deleter on retainer. When I show a weld that doesn’t look like stacked pesos, I get 40 hundred trolls😉😉🤣
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Yo Bondo B... Just mentioned you in my post here. You might get a kick out of it.
Folks been kinda nice lately😂
that rusted from the inside out, so you didn't fix anything.
Am I the only one shaking my head at buying an entire replacement panel only to cut out a small section to weld it in to a damaged panel? That's insanity.
I whole heartedly agree, but then he couldn’t get all the product names and manufacturers mentioned.
Actually quite opposite. If i replaced the whole section then we couldnt paint just that lower area. We would have to do the whole entire quarter and you would see even more products names and manufactures.
I think the point of the video was to show patch repair techniques. And showing product :)
What about the inside of the weld ,it could rust from there?
Depends on the actual amount of damage. Not all warpage is immediately visible. Or if you discover prior repairs that were hidden and now you need that full panel. Many scenarios here. I do agree it needs paint on the inside welds to prevent rust out. But then again.. How long will this vehicle remain road worthy?? It's definitely not a classic.
This is by far the best DIY example of panel refinishing, thank you SO much. 5 Stars!!
Wow, thank you!
Great work and great to see your young son helping ❤
Pin holes come from your mixing ! You have to pull long and thin as you mix on the board . You add air by bad process. .
Thanks for the tips!
Lot less work to replace THE ENTIRE bumper.
And a better result.
I mean, geez...
???
A lot of useful information as always Brian, great Job 👍🏽
Love how your son is around you watching you work, I hope he likes what you do and hopefully see him learn from a great teacher.
Hi! Yes. He starting to enjoy being with dad in the garage. Ty for your comment n good to hear from you
You have a good helper and future painter there.
That's where it starts! I started working for my dad on weekends when I turned eight. Been there ever since.
The best of the bests 👍
You helped me a lot to improve im following you from a country of North Africa and the things that you giving here for free no one will tell them to you here thank you so so so much for helping me to improve just from watching your videos
Off topic question: I love the paint side of the industry but don’t particularly have an interest in the actual body/repair side. Is it possible/reasonable to become successful in paint without knowing body?
Great video! I'm a terrible welder but I can make two pieces of metal stick together. The old saying I abide by is "a grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't!".
Found your channel a couple of years ago when I was researching on how to paint my truck, for my first time painting HVLP I was very pleased with my results thanks to your tips! I still come back to your channel because I enjoy your content and it gives me more information to put in my toolbox whenever I find the next project I can use them on.
Thank you for being a longtime viewer of the channel!
I see you have some highly competent help there from your trainee! What a heart warming project.
Great video! Nice helper you have there! Word of caution on grinding welds. You may get a nice weld with little or no warping and ruin it by leaning too hard on your sanding disc and building too much heat. Go slowly and keep checking how hot the panel is getting. Ask me how I know!!!!
I've used the metal overheating to my advantage a few times too but yeah the metal heating up can definitely be a bad thing
Question, would you or did you treat the backside of the panel? It seems if you do nothing to the back all your work will be for nothing when it starts to rust.
What always confuses me, and nobody every really addresses it for some reason is, what about the back side of that weld???
Like, won't it just rust away since it's completely untouched and protected?
At least on that part, you could probably get to the other side to sand it and seal it up and paint to protect it, but you didn't, and nobody ever mentions doing that???
But also, what about the places that you can't even get to the other side...
What would you do then, if you wanted the repair to last more than 2 or 3 years?
Lil man want that spreader😊
Brian, this is an excellent example of not only how to do auto body/painting work, but more importantly, how to teach others enough to get us jump-started. In your debt - thank you!
This looks like an Eastwood commercial.
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man if this got a rust spot after this parade of products which one failed or is it sue them all to get the right one, really I do not think plastic surgery requires this craziness I think it is just an infomercial for expensive line of body make up products
Only thing I can say is you should be using a longer block. But as long as it looks straight in the end I guess it doesn't matter
Brian: "These are not perfect welds"
Your friend obviously hasn't been watching a lot of RUclips how to weld videos 😂. Looks like he used the welder on the wrong polarity.
I appreciate your input and ‘how to ‘ techniques, but I feel that at the outset where you mentioned that you are not a professional welder and you did a ‘rough’ job welding, the resulting ‘pockmark’ effects in the weld area only gave reason for all the ‘extra’ steps to fill in or cover up those areas only means more labor times as well as added expense for the job. Needing to buy / use added products just to eliminate the ‘weld-blemishes’ just seems to me to be unnecessary. I think doing a more effective job of welding would eliminate the added steps to ‘cover up’ any ‘sub par’ welding. I’m sure you are able to do better welding, and you probably did it that way for training your viewers, so I only say this as my own personal opinion. Time is money, and even in a ‘diy’ setting wouldn’t it make more sense to just buy and use only what one needs to get the same results? I DO appreciate the video and I did learn some valuable lessons so please accept my comments as more of a compliment rather than a criticism! Again thank you for your presentation. Keep ‘em comin’! 👍🏼🤔😎
😂 having perfectly smooth welds on body panels is extremely unrealistic. Even if they’re dimes, you still have to grind and sand them down. There’s no way around it. That’s just how it is.
Brian, can you do a price comparison between shop repair and this "DIY" style repair?
Shop would be cheaper.
@@rockyninja5089really? I find that difficult to believe. I guess a cost comparison is the way to go.
@@burtreynolds3143 I hear ya. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me what a shop would charge though.
Thank you for another great video. It's good to see you have an apprentice learning the trade!
Thanks Man. Even if thats not perfect its 6587 times better than it was. and thats not bad at all. Not everyone can drop 10k on a 20 year old DD.
How do you protect the inside of that panel,i thought that part rusted from the inside out..great job
generally you dont unless its galvanized or you paint it being from a hole drilled on the other side... I used galvanized steel, this way it wont rust on the otherside.
i like to use fiberglass too especially on rust because well it can't rust if its fiberglass hehee just make sure to PREP PREP PREP the metal VERY well 95% of body work is preparing the surface to be repaired. you can do everything else right but if you don't prep PROPERLy first you're up shits creek lol AWESOME VIDEO AS ALWAYS ! PEACE
Brian has been hitting the gym 💪
15 more pounds to go!
I was recently quoted 1,300 dollars to have a bumper cover and one fender painted to OEM color no installation or prep and parts are both brand new oem. Does this sound right? I do allot with Cerakote so I have a decent spray set up I just needed a new spray gun so I ordered everything from eastwood for 550 and a gun from amazon and figured I would just do it myself
I know the purpose of the video was to show the work and I appreciate that, but watching all the steps and time involved I kept thinking damn it would have been a lot easier if your friend had installed the entire panel that he purchased instead of cutting out a patch panel.
That would have been way more work and paint involved as well
The tip about using the Fast Etch is an excellent idea. I've always gone over any weld seams with polyester resin and some cabosil mixture to seal them before epoxy primer. pretty much the same idea as putting the short strand filler. Might be overkill but it was something I learned eons ago and have always done.
Nice job, your repair turned out spectacular as always. You're a very knowledgeable and skilled body and paint man
Great point!
Ah, where's the part where you cut out the rust, patch, weld, etc? 🤷♂️
My buddies channel has it where he did it. “My daughter’s garage”
Thank you. As much as I'm a diy guy, unless I do this daily, the amount I would spend on materials surpasses me bringing it to a local shop.
I have never even HELD a $40.00 rattle-can of spray paint. In my entire life.
But then again, my idea of body repair used to mean using pieces of wood and gooping them into dents and damaged areas with heavy roofing tar using a 2-inch putty knife, and letting the tar dry-out in the Sun for a few days until it quit wanting to sag off the car. Then a $5.00 can of Hardware Store Rust/Red Iron Oxide colored Farm Implement Primer to give it a good, strong, good-looking "skin". I thought that looked so classy. I spray painted the entire car with it, and I mean the ENTIRE car - chrome, lights, windows, wiper blades, etc. A single-edge razor took the paint off the windows and lights like MAGIC, and all the dirt and stuff came off in the ribbons of paint and the glass and signal lenses sparkled like new.
Before it all dried, it rained a little bit and the paint all mottled (my then being 16-year old idea of a Custom Paint Job) To preserve that wonderful mottling effect, I mopped the car about 5 times with that then-new product "Formica Floor Shine", and it would almost blind with shine!
Leaving High-School one day, the local State Patrol Trooper pulled me over. He's a really, great guy, and we all knew and liked him well in our small town. He inquired about my Mom, my Dad, my siblings, just a bunch of small-talk. All the other kids drove past us, his Blue and Red lights blinking, staring at me and him. When I finally asked him what I did "wrong?", I swear he almost started crying. He took his big Trooper hat off, held it to his chest, looked at me (I'm thinking "Oh my god, something bad has happened in my family and needs to inform me" and he said "You know, I've been a State Patrolman for a long time now..." here it comes, oh my god, what? It never gets easy, right? What??? "and NEVER in my career, EVER, have I pulled over... a BIG. SHINY. TURD!!!" He could barely get the words out, turned around, and as he walked back to his Cruiser all he was doing was snorting, guffawing and laughing out loud.
That was over half a CENTURY ago. Every EVERY time I've seen him after that, no matter where, no matter when, him and his Super-Duper State Patrolman VISION would see me well before I'd see him, and it was always the same thing when I'd see him: that big, beautiful toothy grin of his, POINTING at me, and laughing soundly. In the store, on the road, walking somewhere. ALWAYS.
But a $40.00 spray can of paint? How many of those did you use in this video? I dunno, man. I think I've proved to myself that a tube of roofing tar, a can of tractor primer and a razor blade can yield some pretty spectacular, quite memorable results, too.
Thank you for all the tips and tricks, however! I'm glad I watched your video, and "yes", I thumbed-up AND subscribed!
@@brucelarsen6650 I've bought a number of $40 rattle cans from an auto body supply place that makes them to match custom. Worked well.
I understand you do these in your garage,but why dont you use any ir lights?those 2k cans are longer to dry and arent as hard if the weather is difficult.great vid!
Seems like overkill. An awful lot of product.
What should
Have been skipped and why
wayyyyyy too much bondo.. but oik
Bump what they say in the comments, this is an older- well loved truck and your body and paint work on it is as good as it gets at home.
This is only a street driver no need for show quality! Besides, if you made that panel perfect the rest of it would stand out to much.
Looks great from here! Thanks for the tips Brian!
The best cheap body board I've found, a plastic meat cutting board from the box store. easy to clean and reusable 😊
Hey, i can't find a video on this subject. But I would love it, if not others as well, that you or someone would make a video explaining the different properties of the masking tapes and their functions.
There are so many types I feel, and as a novice, I am unsure if I really understand the differences between the types?
9:30 Pre nead the catalyst after purging a little air and before squeezing. It separates too.
Your Eastwood commercial is complete.... along with a two tone quarter panel
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I have done some body work when I was younger , always wondered
How concerned are body shops , developing rust from the inside .
You should be wearing a breathing mask when sanding metal and paint.
Kill the rust and then fill the void with a solid core foam and then sand down and cover with fiberglass 🤷🏻♂️ foam and fiberglass don’t rust 👍
Glad to see you back to the DYI garage paint and body. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!!
Bro, that finish is TIGHT! I wanted to do some work to my Cateye chevy, Rocker panels...Are all those two part sprays; One and dones? once it's mixed use it or lose it?... I use pre-cat epoxy paint in residential trim etc, but; you can reuse it once it's open...
It will still rust through on reverse side!
Comments from someone that didnt watch the whole video
WRONG! You mean IT WONT START RUSTING from the OUTSIDE! BUT THE INSIDE WILL RUST THROUGH TO THE OUTSIDE! WHAT A WASTE.
I did body work for 45 years,l say for amateurs they did ok.All you pros cut em a little slack!
You should wear nitrile gloves when working with super clean or purple power, they have acid in them and are corrosive to your skin, I learned this the hard way
Thank you for taking the time to make these amazing videos.
$300 in various applications? I'd love to know the total cost of materials.
I like that you are teaching the next generation. Its good to see your son helping you and learning. Pass on what you know.
New sub here hello from Australia, Great advice and work indeed.
Look great from this side. What do you do to protect the welds on the inside of the panel?
Unless this was treated with a zinc weld through primer and coated on the inside, this will rust out again.
It was. Did you watch the whole video
@@PaintSociety if I watched that part I would not have posed the question, good stuff,
@@Tacman556 Stop the video at 3:31 and read the label on Eastwood Fast Etch (or you can google this product). It says "Leaves Zinc Phosphate Coating", I think Brian is referring to that.
That came out pretty good, thanks for the video
why fix that quarter panel when the hood looks like it went thru acid rain?
Looks great at the end but if you live in the salt belt that's going to be rotted out in less than a year.
So many layers, I just don't have the patience for this
what about the back side !
it's going to rust at the weld , not my car who cares
Any replacement panels for the lip above the rear wheel thanks
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On working on those lower panels jacking up the vehicle helps
I think you ran your welder too hot.
Thank you great explanation great tutorial and great video
Man seems like a lot more work and materials then needed for one small panel
I've watched a few of your videos and they really are the best DIY painting videos I've seen on youtube. I haven't painted in a while but it's awesome to see what you can do with basic things when you know what you're doing. Where are you located btw?
The hottest place on earth! FL
Great job thanks for the instructions😊
I would avoid the harbor freight wire. Unless something has improved in the last 5+ years, I had poor results with their wire but much better results with wire from home depot. Using a Craftsman 120 volt flux-core welder.
ok can you explain how cutting a section out of a new panel and welding it into place after you grind away all the rust to as good as you can get it and then applying a rust inhibitor and hoping the rust does not come back is easier than bolting the new panel in place and painting it if the color does not match??????? one is for sure the easier route to fix the rust i wonder which way is easier???????
If you’re asking this question you don’t need to be doing this kind of work in the first place. On what planet can you just “unbolt” a rear quarter panel on a freakin SUV? The front of the vehicle “unbolts”. The rear does not in most applications.
Great video no other video showed a battery operated grinder and I don’t have a compressor so that alone gets my two thumbs up
Glad it helped
What is that body filler mixing panel thingy? Need that
Its in the description
@@PaintSociety what's it called?
Nevermind I'm a idiot lol
Great video! I had to replace the hood and a fender on my old Jag due to a deer. The car is beige tan color and my used replacement panels were black, severely burned 30 years old black paint and clear coat. I finally got the panels nice with high build primer, but I had difficulty with the coverage of Dupli-Color paint. In fact, it took me 11 spray cans to get good coverage on the hood and fender. But, I got it and the covered it with 2K Spray-Max clear coat and it looks very good for a DIY job!
Might have been more cost effective if you had got a hold of a sprayer and compressor with the base, top and clear in cans
@@mikep509 Oh yes, for sure! But, I wanted to try to do it by myself. At 22$ Canadian per Dupli-Color can and 45$ Canadian per 2K clear coat cans, it was expensive. Lots of square foots in this hood!
@@alexandrecouture2462 ... yeah it's pricey with rattle cans.. I'm in canada too, I have borrowed a 16 gallon compressor and picked up a $130 paint sprayer on sale at Canadian tire for $50... I have a rear side door, front left fender and a spot on the roof near the windshield to fix/paint ... paint , primer, and clearcoat cost me $300 in cans... I just need time (and good weather lol) to work.on it... should take a day or so.... dialing in the sprayer is needed, and also for covering a bigger area like a roof, rattle cans are very difficult to use, so a sprayer was the way to go... 2009 toyota corolla, 150k km on the drive train... its in great shape except for a few corrosion spots... that im attempting to fix... bodyshops are quoting a fortune for this job if I was to go that route...
This is great but what about treating and rustproofing the inside of the repair?
Watch the end of the video
How much did the paint cost in total?
such a great guide, I have an old 08 chevy where paint just looked terrible but we rebuilt the engine and it runs great. We did this repaint on surfaces where sun hit directly (top and trunk) and the car looks brand new again! You make this look so easy which is why we should really appreciate the pros for the work they do. thank you for such a detailed and amazing guide.
I've gotta say, the end result looks really good!
When I saw those welds, i didn't think you'd ever cover them up!
That's a LOT of work, though.
I have 2014 F150 with steel body color painted bumper. The bumper has some surface rustvabout the size of your palm near the front wheel well. The paint is white platinum pearl paint. Can i use this method (other than welding patch panel) to repair the bumper and make it look good?
I just have a question it's not about this video but I searched to see if you had done a show on diy"car paint" like from AutoZone(Dupont paint shop)or a truck,tractor and implement paint from rural King? I used the Majic diamond hard truck,tractor and implement paint(the blue can)and thought it was really good for being cheap. However now they don't have it here so I'm gonna try the Dupont paint shop paint from AutoZone along with the clear coat. Was curious if you have ever used any of it and if I should use a hardener with the clear coat(it says not necessary)I would think it would make it more durable. Any tips if you have used it please
Why do you say it's simpler to cut and weld rather than replace the full preshaped corner ?
Because then we would need to remove more spot welds. The bumpers, weld it on a curved bodyline then have yo blend the whole quarter
I bought a old Honda for $1500 with mint interior, outside was all burned up! and handed sanded the whole car and used cans of spray paint and light wet sanded. Used cans of clear coat. Let dry 30 days lightly wet sanded and used a buffer wheel and different maguirs compounds and when I was finished, people thought I spent $10,000 on a paint job. Never did anything like it before, just watched lots and lots of RUclips videos. I just sold it for $7800 . I wanted $10,000 but money talks and bs walks! I made about $7k , I’m good.
You really should wear a respirator with that 2K Urethane Primer. That is a real isocyanate-based product, just like the stuff that runs through a gun.
How long should I wait after primer before painting over ???
Doing a candy pearl over black color
Great video for this beginner old man. LOL Thanks for the in-depth tutorial.
What was your total time for this small space? Thanks.
Hi brian ive been watching all your videos on painting at home, and was wondering if you recommend single stage paint or base and clear coat for a car thats going to be parked outside? Looking to repaint my 08’ civic si with peeling clear coat.
I can't get the masking tape off of one of the panels off of my Honda Accord 2008. The glue is still on there. Anything safe enouth to use without damaging the panel? Thanks
Those 2k products should be available in small cans for DYI projects.
What a waste of money and not good to put all that waste in the landfill.
Hi brian ive been watching all your videos on painting at home, and was wondering if you recommend single stage paint or base and clear coat for a car thats going to be parked outside? Looking to repaint my 08’ civic si with peeling clear coat.
Hi brian ive been watching all your videos on painting at home, and was wondering if you recommend single stage paint or base and clear coat for a car thats going to be parked outside? Looking to repaint my 08’ civic si with peeling clear coat.