you are a good wood worker in my opinion and a good teacher, I learn a lot from you . I watch a lot of videos on wood work and most of them have very clean work shops as you do. I used to believe that a wood work shop basically keeps clean with a bit of cleaning but having had the hobby for about 10 years and with dust collectors my shop is as clean as a cleaned out pig sty I love my wood work and have some good machinery but don't like spending a third of my lifer cleaning and polishing. I have heard that a true wood worker spends about 20 percent of their time doing the actual wood work.
Hi Marc, while I have taken notice of grain detail, I learned a lot in a very short time as you explained it further. Thank you for going into such detail. I recently purchased a Domino but have not used it yet, this might be just what I am looking for.. Thanks again and Happy Holidays to you and yours.. All the best in the New Year as well.
Marc, this is a fantastic video! I love the details you go into and I would have bought this if it was a guild course! I never thought about choosing grain detail like you explained in this video. I will be looking at things differently now! Thanks for making this high quality content!
I don’t understand why build videos don’t do well. I find them very informative even if I don’t plan on building the particular project. The techniques can be easily applied to other situations.
Because RUclips represents the "typical viewer" and typical viewers aren't as interested in all of the crazy details. They're more interested in seeing things go together quickly with a concise overview of the process. So it's just numbers.....there are a lot more typical viewers than niche viewers.
I think you mixed up Rift and Quarter sawn.... Rift sawn is all vertical grain. Quarter sawn is more diagonal grain. That's why in Oak you see the medullary rays in quarter sawn, if the gain were vertical you couldn't see the rays.
You have it backwards. Vertical grain = quartersawn. Diagonal is rift. Google it if you want to see some diagrams. Here's one. d4c5gb8slvq7w.cloudfront.net/eyJlZGl0cyI6eyJyZXNpemUiOnsid2lkdGgiOjcwMCwiaGVpZ2h0IjoyNjB9fSwiYnVja2V0IjoiZmluZWhvbWVidWlsZGluZy5zMy50YXVudG9uY2xvdWQuY29tIiwia2V5IjoiYXBwXC91cGxvYWRzXC8yMDE4XC8wN1wvMzEwODQ2MTlcL3F1YXJ0ZXJzYXduLXZzLXJpZnRzYXduLXdvb2QtNzAweDI2MC5qcGcifQ==
@@woodwhisperer Definitely depends on where you google. From Wikipedia: Quarter sawing is sometimes confused with the much less common "rift sawing."[3][4] In quartersawn wood, only the center board of the quarter-log is cut with the growth rings truly perpendicular to the surface of the board. The smaller boards cut from either side have grain increasingly skewed. Riftsawn wood has every board cut along a radius of the original log, so each board has a perpendicular grain, with the growth rings oriented at right angles to the surface of the board. However, since this produces a great deal of waste (in the form of wedge-shaped scraps from between the boards) rift-sawing is very seldom used.
From the entry for Rift sawing: Civil Engineering Materials describes rift-sawing as a process where boards are cut radially.[1] Thus, the grain is always nearly parallel to the short edge of the board and thus nearly perpendicular to the long edge of the board. This produces stable boards with comparatively thin grain; least susceptible to warping, twisting, or cupping; and hence most valued for products where dimensional stability is critical (e.g. musical instruments, high-end sports equipment). This is similar to the process used to make wood shingles. The word rift derives from rive which describes the splitting of a bolt of lumber along its radius.
Okay. I've been down a rabbit hole on this. We are both right. Someone somewhere used the terms backward, and it stuck. Going by what builders look for in grain, 30-60 degree grain is commonly called riftsawn, and 60-90 degree grain is commonly called quartersawn. However, from a sawyer's perspective, rift sawing a log will never produce a riftsawn board but only quartersawn, while quarter sawing a log will produce both riftsawn and quartersawn boards. Therefore, the terms used for boards are backward from the actual meanings of the words.
Plans can be downloaded from our website: Download the FREE Plans: thewoodwhisperer.com/videos/all-about-that-grain-legs-and-rails-sideboard-series-pt-1/
Awesome, Marc! So ... essentially a detailed guild project without the guild project price? I understand it may not contain everything a guild project would, but you're such a giver! Speaking of wasting wood, have you ever discussed re-establishing the flat on overly thick material to get the grain pattern you desire? For instance on quarter sawn (or even flat sawn), material, if you establish a new face at an angle so the grain runs diagonal, it becomes rift sawn. Might be a way to get more out of a single board if you've got the thickness to support it. But it does waste a lot of wood. lol
Very nice. Personally, I love these type of videos Marc. You showcase your talents much better, and I'm able to pick up the tips and tricks I believe you intend to convey. So much so, I spent a small fortune today buying some high character walnut that Woodworker's Source has on sale. I'm conjuring my own designs and jointery methods, mostly going to be dowel. If I were a professional, i would certainly have a domino. Quality of life improvement right there. I decided to spend that money on a new bandsaw today as well. I think at this point I'll get more boogie bang for my buck with it. Cheers! Thank you.
Great to have so much information about the grain pattern. Thank you very much! Questions: do you use the endgrain orientstion of the legs because the complete sideboard sits againts the wall? Would you use other orientation for table legs you can see from all sides? And why should the grain lines and not the core part of the leg point to the center ? Thanks again for your work and all the best to you from Munich, Germany
@@woodwhisperer How many pennies did amazon give you for all these graphite marker sales? Enough to buy a beverage I hope. Thanks for a great video! Look forward to buying some guild projects. This video just confirmed what I always figured was the quality of production.
The domino is expensive because it is the best power tool innovation since cordless tools. It’s worth every penny. You can also do the same thing with $100 dollars in hand tools, time and patience. People are so entitled ugh…
you are a good wood worker in my opinion and a good teacher, I learn a lot from you . I watch a lot of videos on wood work and most of them have very clean work shops as you do. I used to believe that a wood work shop basically keeps clean with a bit of cleaning but having had the hobby for about 10 years and with dust collectors my shop is as clean as a cleaned out pig sty I love my wood work and have some good machinery but don't like spending a third of my lifer cleaning and polishing. I have heard that a true wood worker spends about 20 percent of their time doing the actual wood work.
Love the pace and content. Plenty to absorb.
That turned out beautiful. I like the copper inlay. That give me a whole of ideas.
Anyone shame you for that Kobalt hammer??😂. Good to see you’re still a man of the people. I cannot imagine the ridiculous comments you must read
Great video. I’m going to enjoy this series.
This is great, Marc~! Just one episode in and I see a whole lot more lernin' comin'. ;-) Thanks for this one~!
Hi Marc, while I have taken notice of grain detail, I learned a lot in a very short time as you explained it further. Thank you for going into such detail. I recently purchased a Domino but have not used it yet, this might be just what I am looking for.. Thanks again and Happy Holidays to you and yours.. All the best in the New Year as well.
Marc, this is a fantastic video! I love the details you go into and I would have bought this if it was a guild course! I never thought about choosing grain detail like you explained in this video. I will be looking at things differently now! Thanks for making this high quality content!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for sharing this awesome project! Any chance you will also share plans? It’s harder to replicate without dimensions.
Ohhhh I don't know why but I thought the other video was the longer version with more detail. DOH!
Nice work
You had me at "crochy walnut boards"
Marc, I see you gave the link to the marker you use for the rough layout, can you please do so also for that mechanical pencil you use?
It's a Graphgear. Looks like they're doing a Cyber Monday deal if you're quick amzn.to/3SVskpq
@@woodwhisperer Thanks Marc!
I like details!
Well, strap in buddy!
I don’t understand why build videos don’t do well. I find them very informative even if I don’t plan on building the particular project. The techniques can be easily applied to other situations.
Because RUclips represents the "typical viewer" and typical viewers aren't as interested in all of the crazy details. They're more interested in seeing things go together quickly with a concise overview of the process. So it's just numbers.....there are a lot more typical viewers than niche viewers.
Well “typical viewers” are lame and don’t know what’s best for them.
Thats what the guild is for. Now go use his coupon code! The courses are awesome
Hey Marc, I appreciate all you do. Thanks for this terrific content.
Name white pencil?
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I think you mixed up Rift and Quarter sawn.... Rift sawn is all vertical grain. Quarter sawn is more diagonal grain. That's why in Oak you see the medullary rays in quarter sawn, if the gain were vertical you couldn't see the rays.
You have it backwards. Vertical grain = quartersawn. Diagonal is rift. Google it if you want to see some diagrams. Here's one. d4c5gb8slvq7w.cloudfront.net/eyJlZGl0cyI6eyJyZXNpemUiOnsid2lkdGgiOjcwMCwiaGVpZ2h0IjoyNjB9fSwiYnVja2V0IjoiZmluZWhvbWVidWlsZGluZy5zMy50YXVudG9uY2xvdWQuY29tIiwia2V5IjoiYXBwXC91cGxvYWRzXC8yMDE4XC8wN1wvMzEwODQ2MTlcL3F1YXJ0ZXJzYXduLXZzLXJpZnRzYXduLXdvb2QtNzAweDI2MC5qcGcifQ==
Depends on where you do your googling.
@@woodwhisperer Definitely depends on where you google. From Wikipedia: Quarter sawing is sometimes confused with the much less common "rift sawing."[3][4] In quartersawn wood, only the center board of the quarter-log is cut with the growth rings truly perpendicular to the surface of the board. The smaller boards cut from either side have grain increasingly skewed. Riftsawn wood has every board cut along a radius of the original log, so each board has a perpendicular grain, with the growth rings oriented at right angles to the surface of the board. However, since this produces a great deal of waste (in the form of wedge-shaped scraps from between the boards) rift-sawing is very seldom used.
From the entry for Rift sawing: Civil Engineering Materials describes rift-sawing as a process where boards are cut radially.[1] Thus, the grain is always nearly parallel to the short edge of the board and thus nearly perpendicular to the long edge of the board. This produces stable boards with comparatively thin grain; least susceptible to warping, twisting, or cupping; and hence most valued for products where dimensional stability is critical (e.g. musical instruments, high-end sports equipment).
This is similar to the process used to make wood shingles. The word rift derives from rive which describes the splitting of a bolt of lumber along its radius.
Okay. I've been down a rabbit hole on this. We are both right. Someone somewhere used the terms backward, and it stuck. Going by what builders look for in grain, 30-60 degree grain is commonly called riftsawn, and 60-90 degree grain is commonly called quartersawn. However, from a sawyer's perspective, rift sawing a log will never produce a riftsawn board but only quartersawn, while quarter sawing a log will produce both riftsawn and quartersawn boards. Therefore, the terms used for boards are backward from the actual meanings of the words.
Thanks for sharing this awesome project! Any chance you will also share plans? It’s harder to replicate without dimensions.
Love the long format multipart project content
Thanks for sharing this awesome project! Any chance you will also share plans? It’s harder to replicate without dimensions.
Plans can be downloaded from our website: Download the FREE Plans:
thewoodwhisperer.com/videos/all-about-that-grain-legs-and-rails-sideboard-series-pt-1/
I watched the full build, it was great. This is interesting and educational. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Nice work! It came out super interesting! So many details that are eye catching yet not too overwhelming…
Your such a good teacher thanks so much. Great content
I appreciate that!
thank you
Awesome, Marc! So ... essentially a detailed guild project without the guild project price? I understand it may not contain everything a guild project would, but you're such a giver!
Speaking of wasting wood, have you ever discussed re-establishing the flat on overly thick material to get the grain pattern you desire? For instance on quarter sawn (or even flat sawn), material, if you establish a new face at an angle so the grain runs diagonal, it becomes rift sawn. Might be a way to get more out of a single board if you've got the thickness to support it. But it does waste a lot of wood. lol
Very nice.
Personally, I love these type of videos Marc. You showcase your talents much better, and I'm able to pick up the tips and tricks I believe you intend to convey.
So much so, I spent a small fortune today buying some high character walnut that Woodworker's Source has on sale. I'm conjuring my own designs and jointery methods, mostly going to be dowel. If I were a professional, i would certainly have a domino. Quality of life improvement right there. I decided to spend that money on a new bandsaw today as well. I think at this point I'll get more boogie bang for my buck with it. Cheers! Thank you.
Great to have so much information about the grain pattern. Thank you very much!
Questions: do you use the endgrain orientstion of the legs because the complete sideboard sits againts the wall? Would you use other orientation for table legs you can see from all sides? And why should the grain lines and not the core part of the leg point to the center ?
Thanks again for your work and all the best to you from Munich, Germany
You can make a set of sanded Dominoes specifically for east dry fit...Just dye them a bright color so they don't accidentally get used with glue
I’m considering buying a Domino. To ensure joins are flush, would you make the domino in one board wider to ensure fit?
Love this.. gonna be my next projecg
I'm only a few minutes in, and I already love the series.
Dropkicks 👍👍
What is that marker you use to mark the walnut? I'm looking for a good white writing utenstil for marking on Walnut.
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so... uhh... where do you get the white graphite??
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@@woodwhisperer How many pennies did amazon give you for all these graphite marker sales? Enough to buy a beverage I hope. Thanks for a great video! Look forward to buying some guild projects. This video just confirmed what I always figured was the quality of production.
Marc what is that white pen/pencil you used to mark up your board when doing rough layout?
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The domino is expensive because it is the best power tool innovation since cordless tools. It’s worth every penny. You can also do the same thing with $100 dollars in hand tools, time and patience. People are so entitled ugh…