I actually really like Ceasar.Katniss says it in the books, what he does is helping the tributes in his own way.He gives everyone their little moment to shine, trying to make the audience like them.For someone that got a low or mid score, that is their way of reaching for sponsors, which we have already seen it can save your life.
@@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800I was team Gale as they where established as friends. Peeta and her almost never interacted. But I changed after the sister dies.
i cannot believe 13 yr old me even THOUGHT Gale is anywhere near the level of Peeta. Peeta is such a well written character and the best book/movie boyfriend ever
"If these two were the last two and they had to [try kill each other] that would be worse!" THAT'S A GREAT POINT it would be heartbreaking if Katniss and Rue were the last two
A really funny behind the scenes fact about this. When Jennifer’s mom came to visit her she walked into Jen’s trailer, saw her with brown hair and said “oh sorry. Wrong trailer.” Her own mom didn’t even recognize her 😂
It’s wild to think that Suzanne Collins was a television writer for a lot of wholesome children’s shows, like “Clifford’s Puppy Days” on PBS Kids, and yet she wrote one of the more thought-provoking young adult book series of the 2010s. Her talent is great!
They actually dressed katniss in yellow a lot at the end because they wanted to make the message that she was “young” and “in love” and thats why she did what she did in the games
I totally forgot that that happened in the books!! I wonder if they took it out just for the ease of filming. I did think that cream fixing his leg worked a little too well 🤔 HAHA
I wonder why we have so much media about rebelling against social injustice, but we never seem to move the needle very far.. I guess fiction like this exists to keep us encouraged to not give up;;
@@SophiaPhannnConsidering all the dullards that can watch a fantastic series, rooting for aliens or robots or monsters or whatever, but then when it comes to real-life peoples that the nonhumans are an allegory for, suddenly you're a "buzzword buzzword radical" for noticing or caring or doing.
It’s been years since I read the books but I think the bakery Peeta’s family owns was mostly used by the Peacekeepers and if any Capital official came to District 12. Most people in the district had to use the Black Market to survive.
Sophia, on AO3, there is a fanfic from Peeta's point of view called "Peeta's Games". It is so well written, duplicating the style of Susan Collins, it incorporates every single comment Susan has ever made on Peeta as well a beautiful take on the books. I know fanfic might not be your thing, but for this, I think it's a nice addition to the books
I think my main thing with the casting was the fact I remember hearing Katniss was described with features similar to Native American women so that's what I imagined when I first read the books. Don't get me wrong, I love Jennifer in this role and she was definitely one of the best actresses to play Katniss based on her performance alone, but I think there's another layer that could've been added if Katniss was canonically Native American. Like in the books they described the poorer people in her district as having olive skin and dark straight hair, so her and Gale were said to look like they could be related (Haymitch too funnily enough) because they shared these features; but Peeta was from the richer area so he had white features like pale skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes (her mom and Prim too, but Katniss inherited her dad's features). To me, there was something to be said about having the two poorest districts be majority made up of poc since district 11 was described as primarily Black and then district 12 had mainly Native American people and it emphasizes the parallel of the class systems present irl since Panem is meant to be based off of the US. I just always found that really interesting and I was a bit sad they eliminated that aspect of the story in the movies.
I do vaguely remember Katniss being described with olive skin. Given how the districts were divided and how it’s supposed to reflect future America, yeah it makes sense that Katniss was supposed to be poc. I’m not surprised Hollywood would cast a white woman as the lead to make it more “palatable” to the general audience 🙃 many other movies have done the same
@@SophiaPhannnnot to mention how they erase katniss and Peeta’s disabilities which I loved in the books because it was one of the first times I saw two protagonists have disabilities and not be lesser for it
Sad thing I remember is that for the casting of Katniss, they LITERALLY barred ANY woman that wasn't white to even TRY OUT for the role. They purposefully narrowed down the pool of talent to make Katniss a white woman and whitewash her to make her more palatable as a protagonist for white audiences. And in turn they whitewashed Gale and Haymitch.
An important part of the districts is that they are extorted for their resources, the cakes Peeta was decorating was FOR the capital or the peace keepers who were rich in district 12. nobody from their area could afford them and is used as another symbol to mock them
cakes are a luxury thing. the mellarks, along with katniss's mom growing up as the apothecary's daughter, were part of a merchant class that was more or less middle class. that's why peeta burnt the bread to give to katniss; it was food that could be spared, by only if by accident. the mellarks were still poor enough that they couldn't regularly afford the things they baked, but not so bad they were at risk of dying of starvation, as they at least made consistent money. the merchants sold to the peacekeepers and town officials, and a lot of them sold and bartered covertly. so peeta would probably be designing for birthdays and national holidays if nothing else
Another thing about Foxface’s death is that in the book and the movie she excelled at the plants station recognizing which ones are poisonous and which ones are edible. Considering she was faced with going against Cato, Thresh, Katniss AND Peeta her odds of surviving were basically zero at that point. Katniss is an unreliable narrator on purpose because she can only think about reacting and surviving without really seeing the bigger picture or other motives. She immediately assumes that Foxface ate the poisonous berries on accident because Peeta assumed they were edible. Theres a real possibility that an opportunity to peacefully end her life presented itself and she took it as opposed to a brutal or drawn out death. She wasn’t favored to win, she didn’t have a real weapon, she wasn’t a fighter, and she was malnourished. She was going to die but chose to do it on her terms.
I think in the books it's explicitly stated that foxface ate the berries because she trusted that peeta would not pick and clean something that he wouldn't eat himself, and it makes sense as shed been surviving by stealing from others. She unfortunatelydidnt count on Peeta not knowing the berries were poisonous. No mention of foxface at the plant station
@@LOSTmyHOSTBut it’s also stated that nightlock weren’t in the training books (because of their rarity) and only grew in the woods of district 12. There’s no way she knew.
In the book, Peeta had a cut leg in this scene from the Mutts and he was able to reach down his leg and get blood on his hand and he then drew a bloody X on Cato's hand to give Katniss a target so he'd get released from the chokehold without Katniss injuring him
peeta is an underrated GOAT, the films don't do him justice, and Peeta is probably my favourite love interest in ALL of fiction asides from Mr.Darcy, at least top 5!!
@@shadowcreature5732 Ok some people will fight me on this one but Neil Perry from Dead Poet's Society and Alyssa Jones from Chasing Amy. Both amazing movies I highly reccomend.
@@shadowcreature5732 Anyone who likes Peeta I think would like Rupert from the Paradox trilogy by Rachel Bach. My personal fave fiction love interest 🥰🥰can't explain why without spoiling too much, but goddamn he's 🥵🥵
Watching shows with Sophie like increases the quality of the show, she always has so many good thoughts and theories and it really makes me think abt what I’m watching and not just mindlessly consuming. I appreciate that :)
I watch The Hunger Games movies every year:) I really enjoyed the books, too! Another critique on casting Jennifer Lawrence was that she is white while Katniss' character was half white & half unnamed indigenous descent, which is only subtly indicated by the descriptor of her having olive skin & a little background about her father, who also has olive skin along with Gale.
I've said this in the past, but it's always true: Donald Sutherland makes a really good villain as President Snow. It's the same paradox with Imelda Staunton/Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter: a delightful actor playing such a vile, despicable character. And I've said this a lot, too: Effie's wigs, makeup and wardrobe would make a drag queen jealous.
If it was rue and katniss left, katniss would absolutely sacrifice herself (which would mean no revolution). She'd never suggest double suicide to rue and itd end at movie/book one
Oh! Just caught up to the end - so I do know there was controversy about Lawrence because in the books Katniss and many of the district 12 folks were indigenous coded so some folks wanted her actress to be indigenous
I'm just gonna say it because I feel like this community would be receptive... did anyone else imagine Katniss as Native American/indigenous when reading the books? Or how did you picture Katniss before watching the movies? I can't remember too well but I think the books describe her a bit differently than how JLaw looks (I'm not saying she was a bad cast necessarily, I think she did great acting the character and I'm glad her hair was dyed darker to match that part of the character, I'm just asking how you guys pictured Katniss, appearance-wise, before watching the movies/knowing Jennifer Lawrence was cast?)
I pictured her as indigenous, I think book wise even if it was as more coded it seemed pretty important with the divide between seam and merchant people like with peeta and how Peeta’s family would be against him being with someone like Katniss. I imagined Katniss, Gale and Haymitch all as indigenous, not like the actors that played them. I wish even that they gave Haymitch black/brown hair even because he’s supposed to look similar to Katniss and not peeta
she was meant to be native american coded, yeah. the books were supposed to be based on the oppression in the US specifically so it makes sense that district 12 was majorily supposed to be indigenous people and district 11 had majorily black people, aka the two poorest districts / the two most disinfranchised groups in america etc. ALSO when casting katniss for the movie the casting directors specifically searched for white actors only and basically dismissed any women of color who wanted to try out, i believe someone said that they thought that with a white actor, the story would be more generalized and "relatable."
@@kairosvt3000 oh damn, if that's true (the part about the casting) then that kinda sucks Yeah I thought she was written that way! But I couldn't remember if I was remembering correctly. Thanks for confirming. And you're right, it does make sense that those would be the two districts in America that are most disillusioned with the government.
There was a huge theory for Foxface. The first time we see her in the movie she’s matching berry’s and plants to what’s good and what’s not. The theory is that she had the night lock because she knew she wasn’t going to win and would rather d!e on her own terms
I am going to be really annoying but… that’s not true at all. It’s a theory that only works from one scene in the movie, however even then she’s definitely not a expert on identifying plants at all. That training thing is a matching game that to test reflexes and reaction times. It’s nothing to do with identifying edible plants. I’m always confused why people see it as her being a plant expert… she’s just matching images that look the same, that’s not identifying anything or shows any knowledge. The reason why foxface is smart is because she’s cunning, which is why fox is a could part of her name. Not because she knows a lot about survival. In fact her biggest weakness is that she doesn’t know how to find food herself, however she is sneaky so she gets through the games by stealing other tributes food and supplies in small unnoticeable amounts. She did it with the careers pile of goodies the whole time, until katniss blew it up. Especially book wise, foxface also stole katniss and Peeta’s cheese along with the berries, because she was starving since she couldn’t get any food for days. She wouldn’t steal that as well if she was trying to kill herself. When she died she was described as emaciated. She ate them genuinely because she thought they were safe since Peeta was collecting them thinking they were edible. Her downfall was the fact that she knows it’s dangerous to underestimate your opponent but overestimating them is just as dangerous. If Peeta did what he was doing as a trap, foxface wouldn’t have ate the berries. Even if foxface was an expert on plants, nightlock berries only grew on the outskirts of district 12 and katniss even says they weren’t in the training books at all. It’s why Peeta also doesn’t know what they are and katniss does, because katniss went out to hunt illegally because her dad took her and showed her them, Peeta who is a bakers son who hasn’t left the fence wouldn’t have seen the berries in his life. So foxface being from district 5 would’ve have a chance to know what those berries are. In fact, Katniss shouldn’t know what the berries are either, considering that sneaking outside the fence to hunt is illegal and punishable by death, which is why her trick with the berries is even more of a punch in the face to Snow, because it shows more ways that she has been rebelling even outside those games. So it’s not foxface being dumb… or even peeta being dumb, it’s information that they literally wouldn’t have any access to. Plus they look like berries that katniss was picking since they were edible before that in the book as well
@@clover2739Exactly!! Foxface is cunning, like a fox!! and Peeta isn't dumb, Katniss is just exceptional in her knowledge of foraging food and hunting game.
@@stuffwithsoph8264 yes! Katniss knows these things because her dad was someone who was rebellious and was brave enough to sneak out to hunt when most people wouldn’t and taught Katniss before he died so she has survival skills the majority of district 12 doesn’t, which is why their district is usually goners. Peeta isn’t stupid, he just have no way of knowing this since he’s never been outside the fence and he’s merchant class which is more ‘well off’ than the seam where Katniss is from. He technically isn’t starving for food even if what he eats is extremely stale food no one buys
Actually if you think about it Katniss is not supposed to be super skinny as most of the people that complained said. Because yes, she was from the poorest part of her district but she grew up with a decent amount of food on her plate until her dad died and then she took that job so it makes sense that she's not super skinny. That's also why she would be a little bit stronger than the other girls from her district, cause Katniss had to do physical activity to hunt, she had to climb trees, run in the woods and all that sort of thing so I think the casting was perfect and the only reason why she was so criticized is bc it was 2010
The impact and power this movie has, till this day, is amazing. It’s crazy seeing how sick the capitol is and knowing this is happening to real people right now, in real time. Take time to call your loved ones today. This movie series shows us the power we have together. 💗 Thank you for such a fun reaction to a nostalgic movie Sophia💗💞!! #freepalestine #ceasefirenow #freecongo #endtheoccupation #callcongressnow
i cant picture anyone else as katniss, especially knowing how the series plays out. im so glad u reacted to this and im excited for the rest! also ur hair slaying as always queennnn
I think one thing that people don't consider is that prior to the games and looking at the state of Katniss's life in District 12 girlie probably wasn't thinking much about her future or boys or love or anything like that. So hearing Peeta talk about his feelings for her and then learning that it was all a plot and then leaving the games and going back home to Gale; Gale who in the books Katniss literally says was someone people thought she would end up with mainly because they were always together. Like just imagine what she was going through trying to sort out her own feelings about surviving the games, Peeta's supposed feelings for her, Gale's freauent guiit trip sessions about her doing whatever she had to to survive the games and her own actual feelings towards these two guys. One she bonded with because of the tragic state of the lives growing up and close friendship and the other she bonded on an even deeper level with during and after the games. Bruh if i were Katniss idk how I would have coped with all of that plus being manipulated to be the figure head for a rebellion she never agreed to. Couldn't be me honestly 😂. I must say though I do love Peeta, maybe partly because I love Josh Hutcherson but also because Peeta rocks and he dealt with so much bruh 😭. I also love book Peeta. All versions of Gale suck 😂.
I understand why Madge mayors daughter was cut from the movie for time and too many characters etc. but it really was a big deal when it was Madge that give Katniss the mockingjay pin because in the book Katniss was like "oh have I had a friend this whole time?" like Katniss herself is oblivious to how much she means to others. (also hc fruity Katniss!!!)
Tbh I really think it's very implied rue and her story are the cause of the revolution as the audience see later katniss is just who has the "right look" to be pushed... Rue and what she symbolically represents in both the books/movies/and real life tell the other half of the undertones.
@@SophiaPhannn yep! Rue is the metaphor to the mocking jay bird she when you go back and watch/read these movies/books represents everything katniss wants to be but, is not it's why she is so impacted by her and the tone of the series shifts greatly after... Hunger games have many different thoughts,ideas,themes,and real life parallels Suzanne Collins was exploring but, there is a VERY strong undercurrent starting in the 2nd half of the book/s of rue/district 11 being symbolic allegoresis (since we don't know if Suzanne Collins, meant to do this) of black civil rights movement ideas one of the most obvious being katniss using a 3 finger hand rise panem verison of freedom from class oppression and peace which literally mirrors the real black power fist.... Interesting the financially poorest district and the black and worst treated district are who help start the rebellion because after all systematic poverty/oppression and systematic racism go hand and hand.
I always thought the bakery was there for the more 'wealthy' (if you could call it that) people in district 12, specifically the mayor and his acquaintances. If the leaders (figureheads with next to no power, but still) still have some sort of luxury that the rest don't have, they're going to be more resistant against resistance, since they're going to fear losing that luxury. Probably required by the Capitol to have such a place installed to make sure small-town leaders wouldn't organize behind their backs
i don't think they explained this well in the movie but the reason gale's name has higher chances of being reaped is because he applied for A LOT of tesserae. due to his father being dead and him having a big family, gale needs the extra rations supplied through the tesserae system. which is evil as fck when you think about it. the capitol starves the people in 12 to the bone and then dangles the opportunity for food and oil in front of the CHILDREN in exchange for what is essentially living like they're on death row until they hit 18.
THIS IS ALL I NEED TO DO MY DAILY CARDIO CUZ I'M PIST AND MARCHING IN PLACE LET PEETA BE HAPPY AND BAKE PLEASE OH MY GOD you took me right back there you bleep 🤡
I don't know if you remember this from the books or the movies, but they did say that finnick O'Dare was the youngest winner ever and he was 14. So that means everyone who is ever chosen at 12 or 13 died whether they were executed by one of the other players or died from you. Know dehydration or infection or something like that. No one under the age of 14 has ever survived the hunger games. I wonder how old the winners usually are. I'm going to assume 18 because a lot of the capitals kids train and tell their 18 and then volunteer and that's why they win so much. But the fact that no one under 14 has ever won the hunger games or would win the hunger games because the following year remember there was no kids in that one cuz it was all existing winners literally the youngest people in the 75th hunger games were pita and katniss because apparently I mean even there were some people who were still under 18 from the other districts, they weren't the ones chosen. That is just batshit crazy that in 74 years of the hunger games, no one who was 12 or 13 ever won. I don't know if anyone 15 ever won or if any other 14-year-olds ever won. I know 16-year-olds want a couple of times because hammock was 16 and he won also and you know I assume it was mostly 17 and 18-year-olds
I think I read somewhere that cakes being made in district 12 could just be what's sent to the capitol and the spare could be sold in the district but only to more well off families could afford it
I have to agree, Sophia, Harry Potter is a childhood favourite that i will always watch. But, The Hunger Games, there's something about the series that (for me) just gets better with age.
Katniss essentially sacrificed herself for Prim when she volunteered - she had no way to know she would win. When Katniss paired up with Rue, she saw Prim in her - Katniss would never have killed Rue at the end if they both made it. Katniss would have died so Rue got out.
So…in the books there were still people who were from the richer area of district 12 there just wasn’t many as there were in other districts and only the richer folk from district 12 could afford to buy cakes and everyone else would SOMETIMES buy bread. Katniss’s mom was actually from the richer area but married katniss’s dad who was from the poorer area. Katniss looks like alot of the people from the seam(poorer area) and her sister looks like her mom
I love being early I love your videos so much!! I’m excited to see Catching Fire! I never read the books, but I loved the movies when I was younger, but tbh I was a silly silly child, I didn’t get half of it, watching them now is so shocking bc now I actually get them, love it
I gotta be honest, when I read the books and watched the movies growing up, I never really understood Katniss and Peeta. I felt that they didn't have much real chemistry, at least from Katniss' perspective. But I was never team Gale either. I didn't really see Katniss with either of them to be honest. I felt like the main part of the books were the Games and Katniss' experience. Don't get me wrong, I do think Katniss would probably have died without the whole Peeta pretend love story, but that's the thing - it was mostly just pretense, at least on Katniss' part. I don't remember there being much _real, romantic_ feelings from her when I read the first book, so thought there wasn't any real chemistry between them. In the movie I still think the characters don't have that much chemistry but the actors themselves do, if that makes sense? Like Katniss and Peeta, I still don't get it/see it as an actual real romance in the first movie and book (and the second to be fair) but I think Jennifer Lawrence and Josh Hutcherson did have chemistry. Especially when he said "Now I know I can't let you go. Stay... Please?" I think the actors had great chemistry there, the best in the whole movie, and the line delivery was great. But yeah growing up when I watched the movies and picked the books, I never really picked sides between Gale and Peeta because I felt like while she did seem to have some kind of feeling for Gale in the books, he was a lil... oddly controlling? Especially in the movies. I kinda liked Gale's character more in the books than the movies (obvious until Mockingjay but yeah). And I never really thought Katniss had any _real_ feelings for Peeta. Not that she disliked him, but I didn't feel romantic chemistry on her part from the book (and the movie because it was based on the book although the kiss had more spark in the movie). I was just neutral on them. But yeah, in the 3rd book obviously my opinions of both Gale and Peeta as Katniss' love interests. I think Peeta was a good/better choice but not that their relationship was necessarily healthy/formed healthily (I mean that's not really their fault that they had to go through all that and their relationship is based almost entirely on being in traumatic situations together/trauma bonding but still). But to be honest I could still see Katniss ending without a partner or just with someone who wasn't Peeta or Gale. Some people have said it would be a lonely ending/sad for her but I think... yes and no. Yes, she has experienced devastating losses which is sad and lonely, but I don't think romance necessarily solves that? I think she could have still had a good ending (fulfilled, happy, secure, etc.) even if she was single. Or if she got together with some unnamed character by the end, that could also be a good ending and it would be a refreshing supportive relationship with someone who didn't have the same trauma. (Again, some may argue that she wouldn't be able to bond with someone/an outsider the same way as with Peeta, because they were in the Games together, but I think if that's true then that in itself is sad, almost implying that she is too broken to bond romantically with anyone else who isn't also traumatised by death and murder). I mean if she (the character) was happy with Peeta and was able to kinda move on and (SPOILER) even have kids at the end, then that's fine by me because he is by no means a bad love interest or person. I just didn't feel much genuine romantic feeling from Katniss until like the 3rd book. I do like him as a love interest a bit more now, but I still think they had no real chemistry in the first two books at least from Katniss' side - and it's entirely in Katniss' POV with her internal monologue, so you can't even really get to know Peeta's emotions during their interactions. But that's different in the movies. I like Peeta in the movies a bit better as a love interest because the actor is obviously able to show more with his face, and you can _see_ the chemistry between the actors, especially in the kiss scene when he begged her not to go. So yeah he's warming up to me but growing up I never understood either Gale or Peeta as love interests. Lmao how did I end up typing this much???
See I used to think this when I was younger too because at face value, yeah Katniss was pretending to be in love with Peeta. However, I think there were a lot of small moments where Katniss did show love towards Peeta. It was just buried through denial and the fact that there were bigger things to worry about LOL because Katniss was a teenager who was essentially acting as a mom to Prim, then she got thrown into the games, and so on and so forth. Romance wasn’t really on the forefront of her mind. She was a very complex character with a lot of trauma, so it’s not surprising that her feelings wouldn’t be as straightforward or obvious! But I understand that everyone’s interpretations are different
@@SophiaPhannn I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt that way (or used to)! What you said makes total sense; the games in reality are no place for romance so obviously it wasn't really on her mind. And I do like that while it was pretense for a while/at first, Katniss couldn't deny she felt something for him. I actually really like Peeta as a character himself, I always have, I just didn't understand/see him as a real love interest (especially in the books) if that makes sense. I like how he's so... pacifist yet still wants to let the Capitol know that they don't own him, which he says right in the first one. Which also makes it that much more tragic when they get him later on and brainwash him. I really love his character arc and I do think he genuinely liked Katniss for a long time, which I liked to see (especially when literally seeing Josh Hutcherson acting so in love, it was pretty cute ngl) but I just felt like there wasn't much real romantic feeling response on her part for so long, if that makes sense. I'm not saying she didn't care about him, it was very clear that she did care a lot even in the books, but I didn't think she was truly _romantically_ attracted to him till much later in the story. It was also iffy because until the 3rd one, Gale was still very much an "option" as a love interest, and they kept kissing, so I wasn't sure what to think about how she truy felt about Peeta. But I still prefer him as a love interest in general at the end though over Gale. And I realise as I get older that I keep warming up to Peeta as a love interest more and more; he's sweet. Today rewatching that scene where they kiss and then he says "now I know I can't let you go... stay with me, please" I was totally SIMPING ngl. So I guess it was just Katniss' response to him/his feelings that had me uncertain. I've also seen a couple other reactions where they're like "girl, for him I would have already FOLDED" or "he's perfect, I'd marry him" 😂. But as you said, there wasn't really time for real romance and stuff when survival was the priority, and it was probably difficult even back in 12 because they were both so traumatised (Katniss' PTSD was so intense😢) and maybe also awkward because of Katniss and Gale's uncertain relationship after the first games. Also, "fake" affection probably turns into real love quite easily, especially when she already cared for him deeply as a person. Thank you for replying queen, sorry for these long ass comments!
@@SophiaPhannnyeah it’s at first pretense for her and also that she doesn’t have time to think about that in midst survival but it’s generally agreed upon that katniss falls in love with Peeta in catching fire. It’s just that 1) she’s in denial 2) her love language isn’t words it’s acts of service, it’s physical touch so when we were younger we couldn’t that she actually did love him she couldn’t say it out loud for a long time
I do have to disagree on her not ending up with someone who knows her pain though. Like most of her nations people theyre all pretty familiar with suffering but only fellow tributes are familiar with that added horror and what it comes with and being used for a revolution against your will. Sure you can have a relationship outside of that and its probably healthier but it doesnt suit Katniss' personality imo. I think she needs someone who understands the pain but can say its still no excuse to be a monster bc from anyone else its patronizing. Where as from peeta its the truth to her.
I think her true feelings for Peeta came out in book 2 during the 2nd games but then after everything that happened her developing feelings had to be relegated to the back burner. In the books though we do learn that they were definitely trauma bonding after the first games and thus it turned into a truer love there after.
Okay so on the cake decorating thing, I thought that too, but I think I remember in the books - they described the way district twelve is much better than the movies could and Peeta's family and bakery were part of the 'richer' part of the district (kinda like where the mayor and his daughter lived if that helps jog your memory; it helped jog mine😅)
Gail is 2 years older than katniss. Katniss was 16 year. Also, Gail's name is in multiple times for each year because he's also getting food for his mother and his. I believe three or four little siblings. So yeah, his name is in almost probably the maximum you could have it in. I don't think anyone in the district has it in more than 50
District 12 was sorta divided into 2 parts, a poorer and a richer one. The bakery was making cakes for the richer part, like for the mayor and his friends and visitors. But yeah probably not that many cakes over all.
By the way, you know a lot of those kids who are in the hunger games. They might have siblings her the right age to be allowed to volunteer for them. But pita I believe had one brother who was old enough to where he could volunteer and the other one was too old to do anything
I think they deliberately dressed Katniss in colors that didn’t suit her in the dorms (ie the awful yellow that washed her out) to highlight the fact that she was never able to fully adapt to the capitol or relax in her given space. While the materials might be nice and luxurious, she always looked wrong and uncomfortable whilst wearing it. It really underscores the sense of being a doll or puppet for the capitol, to be dressed up and displayed before being discarded for their entertainment .
That is without Thanksgiving. Thing is called. It's called a cornucopia. That's also what I was picturing but like a metal one of those like tall enough to like a big enough to comfortably walk through and stand on top of me. Whatever I imagine. All the low value stuff would be at the very opening where you've got room to maneuver and run, but you'd have to go deep into the cornucopia to get anything good where you can't maneuver around and you'd have to fight your way out to be a literal sitting duck in the very very back for the best price, so I imagine that's how it would be. And yeah
other than me enjoying another reaction from Sophia... I'm just thinking about how nice her lip gloss looks omg especially with her current hair color *chef's kiss*
12:48 To be fair, Katniss is unfamiliar with the Capitol's synthetic bows because she's had a homemade, natural one her whole life, and Haymitch gave her the great advice to not practice her archery in front of the Careers so they wouldn't know she can shoot. Which would improve her chances of getting the bow bc if they didn't know she could use it, they'd be less likely to take it first. And only the Gamemakers would know she's good with a bow, so they'd make sure to include one for her in the weapons Cornucopia, so her chance at survival just makes their TV show "better."
You know everyone always questions how Peeta painted himself into a rock but nobody ever asks what the hell he even used to make the paint. 👽🤔 Also as I remember from the book, the cornucopia actually did look like an actual cornucopia but made of gold, they climbed up the weaves in the metal.
Katniss being impulsive and her tendency to act before thinking were what made her such a hero. She refused to play by the Capitol's rules even when she didn't realize how deeply her actions defied Snow. His actions were based on his emotionless, self-serving, and sadistic nature while hers were founded on her compassion and caring for fellow human beings.
I watched the first movie before reading the book lol. But The Hunger Games is such a good book adaptation and Catching Fire is my favorite book and movie 😭😭
No but you have a point about the cake decorating girl! District 12 is one of the poorer, if not the poorest. Not only would just basic food be the priority, but also what would they have to decorate the cakes? I'm not saying they couldn't be resourceful or something, I just mean that they lived in poverty and each family/person had to work so hard just to get food. Also, even they had icing and stuff sometimes, for Peeta to have that level of detail in painting was odd. I think maybe he just ended up talented/skilled at painting anyway, but the cake reason makes not much sense.
I read the first book maybe 2 weeks ago. And I’m glad I read the book after. Some may think that’s weird but I was an avid reader and it’s hard to read and be engrossed in a book hear that it’s being adapted in film only for the film to be trash in your opinion because of such a high standard you had in your head. I plan to read the 2nd end of Nov. In this reverse order I get to appreciate the film on its own as well as the book separately
Noooo I totally get that, some movie adaptations are SO trash that you wonder what the point of making it into a movie was if they were just gonna change everything 😂
You look beautiful as always! I am so exited to see you cover these movies! Thank you for your constant hard work, stay safe and have a peaceful week. 💜✨😌”I fixed my notifications issue btw”
I love these movies, always have. I remember watching them as they were coming out but it was only a couple of months ago that I read the series and wow! The series is so good and these movies are a 10/10 adaptation. Peeta will forever be the biggest simp there is and you know what? I’m a simp for him too so it works out lol ❤
Yeah when I was younger, I was more into the action and pretty blah about the romance. But now I’m kind of like “yeah Peeta is really sweet 🥹” the hand on the braid at the end of the movie really sold it for me hahaha
@@SophiaPhannn Since I saw the movies first the only Peeta I’ve ever known is Josh Hutcherson and honestly he is just so sweet he really sells it. The second book was also my favourite cause Peeta is there the whole time. Take your time with the reactions but the second you upload Catching Fire I will drop everything lol
Have you read the fanfic in Peeta's POV!??? I highly recommend them!!! Called Peeta's Games, Throwing Sparks and The Mutt. So well written that in my mind, they are canon. I definitely agree the Peeta and Katniss in the books definitely give a different look and vibe than the movie version but I think the spirit and sentiments are the same
12:18 I just rewatched the movie last weekend and I made the same comment lmao, like what kind of market is there in District 12 for nicely decorated cakes? There's like two upperclass families in the whole district
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I actually really like Ceasar.Katniss says it in the books, what he does is helping the tributes in his own way.He gives everyone their little moment to shine, trying to make the audience like them.For someone that got a low or mid score, that is their way of reaching for sponsors, which we have already seen it can save your life.
Vivek Ramaswamy looks like Ceasar and kinda acts like him too... HUNGER GAMES WAS A PROPHECY Y'ALL
@@nailinthefashion I WAS THINKING THE SAME TODAY
@@BOOMXYZU the laughs being almost exact 🤡 the crazy smiles 🤡 how did Suzanne know????
He really was just in love with Katniss the whole time. Like from the second he laid eyes on her. There is no team peeta or gale there is only peeta.
FRRRRR I’m convinced that the team Gale people were just Liam Hemsworth fans, but he’s not even all that imo 😭😭😭
@@SophiaPhannnREAL 😂
@@SophiaPhannn My mom is team gale only cause Liam Hemsworth is hot 😭😭😭😭😭
@@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800I was team Gale as they where established as friends. Peeta and her almost never interacted. But I changed after the sister dies.
i cannot believe 13 yr old me even THOUGHT Gale is anywhere near the level of Peeta. Peeta is such a well written character and the best book/movie boyfriend ever
"If these two were the last two and they had to [try kill each other] that would be worse!" THAT'S A GREAT POINT it would be heartbreaking if Katniss and Rue were the last two
I love that you added the brackets because I could not finish my thoughts HAHAHA
@@SophiaPhannnI think it was suggested in the books that katniss would let rue win
A really funny behind the scenes fact about this. When Jennifer’s mom came to visit her she walked into Jen’s trailer, saw her with brown hair and said “oh sorry. Wrong trailer.” Her own mom didn’t even recognize her 😂
"because she came here with me" will never fail to gag me lol
You were actually right to imagine the cornucopia that way, because that is how it looks in the books. It’s a giant woven horn made of gold! ✨
OKAY I KNEW I WASN’T CRAZY LOL
It’s wild to think that Suzanne Collins was a television writer for a lot of wholesome children’s shows, like “Clifford’s Puppy Days” on PBS Kids, and yet she wrote one of the more thought-provoking young adult book series of the 2010s. Her talent is great!
It happens. The guy who directed the original Black Christmas also directed A Christmas Story.
@@christopherb501 Oh that's right, he did! Always impressive when a person can transition seamlessly from one genre to another.
They actually dressed katniss in yellow a lot at the end because they wanted to make the message that she was “young” and “in love” and thats why she did what she did in the games
Its a good book to movie adaptation BUT I'm forever annoyed that they didnt included Peeta's leg being amputated! It was so important!
I totally forgot that that happened in the books!! I wonder if they took it out just for the ease of filming. I did think that cream fixing his leg worked a little too well 🤔 HAHA
Did research, apparently because they think it would've been "too gory" for PG 13 reasons
i liked that they didn't proceed with the amputation bit bc they've made him suffer more than enough :')
That bothers my art teacher she's so upset about it 🤣
I wonder why we have so much media about rebelling against social injustice, but we never seem to move the needle very far.. I guess fiction like this exists to keep us encouraged to not give up;;
I think about the same thing ☹️ seems easier to root for a fictional character with no real life consequences than actual people I guess 😔
@@SophiaPhannnConsidering all the dullards that can watch a fantastic series, rooting for aliens or robots or monsters or whatever, but then when it comes to real-life peoples that the nonhumans are an allegory for, suddenly you're a "buzzword buzzword radical" for noticing or caring or doing.
It’s been years since I read the books but I think the bakery Peeta’s family owns was mostly used by the Peacekeepers and if any Capital official came to District 12. Most people in the district had to use the Black Market to survive.
Ohhh okok yeah that would make sense!! Another example of things from the books not making it into the movies 😂
Sophia, on AO3, there is a fanfic from Peeta's point of view called "Peeta's Games". It is so well written, duplicating the style of Susan Collins, it incorporates every single comment Susan has ever made on Peeta as well a beautiful take on the books.
I know fanfic might not be your thing, but for this, I think it's a nice addition to the books
I think my main thing with the casting was the fact I remember hearing Katniss was described with features similar to Native American women so that's what I imagined when I first read the books. Don't get me wrong, I love Jennifer in this role and she was definitely one of the best actresses to play Katniss based on her performance alone, but I think there's another layer that could've been added if Katniss was canonically Native American. Like in the books they described the poorer people in her district as having olive skin and dark straight hair, so her and Gale were said to look like they could be related (Haymitch too funnily enough) because they shared these features; but Peeta was from the richer area so he had white features like pale skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes (her mom and Prim too, but Katniss inherited her dad's features). To me, there was something to be said about having the two poorest districts be majority made up of poc since district 11 was described as primarily Black and then district 12 had mainly Native American people and it emphasizes the parallel of the class systems present irl since Panem is meant to be based off of the US. I just always found that really interesting and I was a bit sad they eliminated that aspect of the story in the movies.
I do vaguely remember Katniss being described with olive skin. Given how the districts were divided and how it’s supposed to reflect future America, yeah it makes sense that Katniss was supposed to be poc. I’m not surprised Hollywood would cast a white woman as the lead to make it more “palatable” to the general audience 🙃 many other movies have done the same
@@SophiaPhannnnot to mention how they erase katniss and Peeta’s disabilities which I loved in the books because it was one of the first times I saw two protagonists have disabilities and not be lesser for it
Olive skin and dark straight hair could also be used to describe Greeks or Italians tho, but yes Indigenous could have been nice
Sad thing I remember is that for the casting of Katniss, they LITERALLY barred ANY woman that wasn't white to even TRY OUT for the role. They purposefully narrowed down the pool of talent to make Katniss a white woman and whitewash her to make her more palatable as a protagonist for white audiences. And in turn they whitewashed Gale and Haymitch.
@@blueyeshadow2738what kind
of disabilities did they have? (I haven't read the books yet)
An important part of the districts is that they are extorted for their resources, the cakes Peeta was decorating was FOR the capital or the peace keepers who were rich in district 12. nobody from their area could afford them and is used as another symbol to mock them
cakes are a luxury thing. the mellarks, along with katniss's mom growing up as the apothecary's daughter, were part of a merchant class that was more or less middle class. that's why peeta burnt the bread to give to katniss; it was food that could be spared, by only if by accident. the mellarks were still poor enough that they couldn't regularly afford the things they baked, but not so bad they were at risk of dying of starvation, as they at least made consistent money. the merchants sold to the peacekeepers and town officials, and a lot of them sold and bartered covertly. so peeta would probably be designing for birthdays and national holidays if nothing else
Another thing about Foxface’s death is that in the book and the movie she excelled at the plants station recognizing which ones are poisonous and which ones are edible. Considering she was faced with going against Cato, Thresh, Katniss AND Peeta her odds of surviving were basically zero at that point. Katniss is an unreliable narrator on purpose because she can only think about reacting and surviving without really seeing the bigger picture or other motives. She immediately assumes that Foxface ate the poisonous berries on accident because Peeta assumed they were edible. Theres a real possibility that an opportunity to peacefully end her life presented itself and she took it as opposed to a brutal or drawn out death. She wasn’t favored to win, she didn’t have a real weapon, she wasn’t a fighter, and she was malnourished. She was going to die but chose to do it on her terms.
I think in the books it's explicitly stated that foxface ate the berries because she trusted that peeta would not pick and clean something that he wouldn't eat himself, and it makes sense as shed been surviving by stealing from others. She unfortunatelydidnt count on Peeta not knowing the berries were poisonous. No mention of foxface at the plant station
@@marialevale21In the book she is describe as one of the smartest that's why she survive that long, so I actually believe she kill herself too
@@LOSTmyHOSTBut it’s also stated that nightlock weren’t in the training books (because of their rarity) and only grew in the woods of district 12. There’s no way she knew.
A detail I never noticed was that, while Cato had Peeta in the choke hold, Peeta motioned with his finger for Katniss to shoot Cato in the hand.
It’s just a good detail!!
In the book, Peeta had a cut leg in this scene from the Mutts and he was able to reach down his leg and get blood on his hand and he then drew a bloody X on Cato's hand to give Katniss a target so he'd get released from the chokehold without Katniss injuring him
@@raeannariggs97whoa, u know the more i hear abt the books the more i think i should read them.. only problem is my attention span 💀
Girl those scholastic book orders were the shiiittt. That’s how I got into the Hunger Games too!!!
RIGHT, it really fed into my reading addiction as a kid 😂
peeta is an underrated GOAT, the films don't do him justice, and Peeta is probably my favourite love interest in ALL of fiction asides from Mr.Darcy, at least top 5!!
What are ur other fav love interests? Any recommendations? (Asking for a friend 👀)
@@shadowcreature5732 Ok some people will fight me on this one but Neil Perry from Dead Poet's Society and Alyssa Jones from Chasing Amy. Both amazing movies I highly reccomend.
@@shadowcreature5732 Anyone who likes Peeta I think would like Rupert from the Paradox trilogy by Rachel Bach. My personal fave fiction love interest 🥰🥰can't explain why without spoiling too much, but goddamn he's 🥵🥵
Watching shows with Sophie like increases the quality of the show, she always has so many good thoughts and theories and it really makes me think abt what I’m watching and not just mindlessly consuming. I appreciate that :)
Omg thank you 🥹 I try to strike a balance between being funny and insightful hehe 🫶🏼
I’m glad they didnt cast someone “malnourished” looking as katniss, that couldve sent bad messages even if that would be staying true to the book
I watch The Hunger Games movies every year:) I really enjoyed the books, too!
Another critique on casting Jennifer Lawrence was that she is white while Katniss' character was half white & half unnamed indigenous descent, which is only subtly indicated by the descriptor of her having olive skin & a little background about her father, who also has olive skin along with Gale.
I've said this in the past, but it's always true: Donald Sutherland makes a really good villain as President Snow. It's the same paradox with Imelda Staunton/Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter: a delightful actor playing such a vile, despicable character. And I've said this a lot, too: Effie's wigs, makeup and wardrobe would make a drag queen jealous.
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🥹🥹🥹🫶🏼 thank you babe
If it was rue and katniss left, katniss would absolutely sacrifice herself (which would mean no revolution). She'd never suggest double suicide to rue and itd end at movie/book one
i do think there could’ve been a rebellion but with katniss as the martyr
Oh! Just caught up to the end - so I do know there was controversy about Lawrence because in the books Katniss and many of the district 12 folks were indigenous coded so some folks wanted her actress to be indigenous
I always heard it was because Katniss was always described as being smaller idk man but Jen did kill it. Also I loved Josh as Peeta
@@tiffanykim2773 oh she did great, I just get why people were claiming whitewashing for it and were disappointed
I'm just gonna say it because I feel like this community would be receptive... did anyone else imagine Katniss as Native American/indigenous when reading the books? Or how did you picture Katniss before watching the movies? I can't remember too well but I think the books describe her a bit differently than how JLaw looks (I'm not saying she was a bad cast necessarily, I think she did great acting the character and I'm glad her hair was dyed darker to match that part of the character, I'm just asking how you guys pictured Katniss, appearance-wise, before watching the movies/knowing Jennifer Lawrence was cast?)
I pictured her as indigenous, I think book wise even if it was as more coded it seemed pretty important with the divide between seam and merchant people like with peeta and how Peeta’s family would be against him being with someone like Katniss. I imagined Katniss, Gale and Haymitch all as indigenous, not like the actors that played them. I wish even that they gave Haymitch black/brown hair even because he’s supposed to look similar to Katniss and not peeta
she was meant to be native american coded, yeah. the books were supposed to be based on the oppression in the US specifically so it makes sense that district 12 was majorily supposed to be indigenous people and district 11 had majorily black people, aka the two poorest districts / the two most disinfranchised groups in america etc. ALSO when casting katniss for the movie the casting directors specifically searched for white actors only and basically dismissed any women of color who wanted to try out, i believe someone said that they thought that with a white actor, the story would be more generalized and "relatable."
@@kairosvt3000 oh damn, if that's true (the part about the casting) then that kinda sucks
Yeah I thought she was written that way! But I couldn't remember if I was remembering correctly. Thanks for confirming. And you're right, it does make sense that those would be the two districts in America that are most disillusioned with the government.
There was a huge theory for Foxface. The first time we see her in the movie she’s matching berry’s and plants to what’s good and what’s not. The theory is that she had the night lock because she knew she wasn’t going to win and would rather d!e on her own terms
I am going to be really annoying but… that’s not true at all.
It’s a theory that only works from one scene in the movie, however even then she’s definitely not a expert on identifying plants at all. That training thing is a matching game that to test reflexes and reaction times. It’s nothing to do with identifying edible plants. I’m always confused why people see it as her being a plant expert… she’s just matching images that look the same, that’s not identifying anything or shows any knowledge.
The reason why foxface is smart is because she’s cunning, which is why fox is a could part of her name. Not because she knows a lot about survival. In fact her biggest weakness is that she doesn’t know how to find food herself, however she is sneaky so she gets through the games by stealing other tributes food and supplies in small unnoticeable amounts. She did it with the careers pile of goodies the whole time, until katniss blew it up.
Especially book wise, foxface also stole katniss and Peeta’s cheese along with the berries, because she was starving since she couldn’t get any food for days. She wouldn’t steal that as well if she was trying to kill herself. When she died she was described as emaciated. She ate them genuinely because she thought they were safe since Peeta was collecting them thinking they were edible. Her downfall was the fact that she knows it’s dangerous to underestimate your opponent but overestimating them is just as dangerous. If Peeta did what he was doing as a trap, foxface wouldn’t have ate the berries.
Even if foxface was an expert on plants, nightlock berries only grew on the outskirts of district 12 and katniss even says they weren’t in the training books at all. It’s why Peeta also doesn’t know what they are and katniss does, because katniss went out to hunt illegally because her dad took her and showed her them, Peeta who is a bakers son who hasn’t left the fence wouldn’t have seen the berries in his life. So foxface being from district 5 would’ve have a chance to know what those berries are.
In fact, Katniss shouldn’t know what the berries are either, considering that sneaking outside the fence to hunt is illegal and punishable by death, which is why her trick with the berries is even more of a punch in the face to Snow, because it shows more ways that she has been rebelling even outside those games. So it’s not foxface being dumb… or even peeta being dumb, it’s information that they literally wouldn’t have any access to. Plus they look like berries that katniss was picking since they were edible before that in the book as well
@@clover2739Exactly!! Foxface is cunning, like a fox!! and Peeta isn't dumb, Katniss is just exceptional in her knowledge of foraging food and hunting game.
@@stuffwithsoph8264 yes! Katniss knows these things because her dad was someone who was rebellious and was brave enough to sneak out to hunt when most people wouldn’t and taught Katniss before he died so she has survival skills the majority of district 12 doesn’t, which is why their district is usually goners. Peeta isn’t stupid, he just have no way of knowing this since he’s never been outside the fence and he’s merchant class which is more ‘well off’ than the seam where Katniss is from. He technically isn’t starving for food even if what he eats is extremely stale food no one buys
Don’t remind me of how expensive scholastic book fair was 😂
I spent so much money on the book fair 😂
Actually if you think about it Katniss is not supposed to be super skinny as most of the people that complained said. Because yes, she was from the poorest part of her district but she grew up with a decent amount of food on her plate until her dad died and then she took that job so it makes sense that she's not super skinny. That's also why she would be a little bit stronger than the other girls from her district, cause Katniss had to do physical activity to hunt, she had to climb trees, run in the woods and all that sort of thing so I think the casting was perfect and the only reason why she was so criticized is bc it was 2010
The impact and power this movie has, till this day, is amazing. It’s crazy seeing how sick the capitol is and knowing this is happening to real people right now, in real time.
Take time to call your loved ones today. This movie series shows us the power we have together.
💗 Thank you for such a fun reaction to a nostalgic movie Sophia💗💞!!
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i cant picture anyone else as katniss, especially knowing how the series plays out. im so glad u reacted to this and im excited for the rest! also ur hair slaying as always queennnn
Thank you 🥹🫶🏼
Please do the whole trilogy!! I missed this movie series so much 😢 I really can't wait for the new one lol, this was my childhood
"my mom said district 12 might finally have a winner.....and she wasn't talking about me" ouch peeta even i felt that.
I think one thing that people don't consider is that prior to the games and looking at the state of Katniss's life in District 12 girlie probably wasn't thinking much about her future or boys or love or anything like that. So hearing Peeta talk about his feelings for her and then learning that it was all a plot and then leaving the games and going back home to Gale; Gale who in the books Katniss literally says was someone people thought she would end up with mainly because they were always together. Like just imagine what she was going through trying to sort out her own feelings about surviving the games, Peeta's supposed feelings for her, Gale's freauent guiit trip sessions about her doing whatever she had to to survive the games and her own actual feelings towards these two guys. One she bonded with because of the tragic state of the lives growing up and close friendship and the other she bonded on an even deeper level with during and after the games. Bruh if i were Katniss idk how I would have coped with all of that plus being manipulated to be the figure head for a rebellion she never agreed to. Couldn't be me honestly 😂. I must say though I do love Peeta, maybe partly because I love Josh Hutcherson but also because Peeta rocks and he dealt with so much bruh 😭. I also love book Peeta. All versions of Gale suck 😂.
RIGHT, I’m too mentally (and physically) weak to handle all that. Katniss was truly built different 😂
I understand why Madge mayors daughter was cut from the movie for time and too many characters etc. but it really was a big deal when it was Madge that give Katniss the mockingjay pin because in the book Katniss was like "oh have I had a friend this whole time?" like Katniss herself is oblivious to how much she means to others. (also hc fruity Katniss!!!)
WAIT omg I totally forgot her!!! It does change the dynamic rather than a rando woman giving it to her
@@SophiaPhannn honestly, as much as I understand reasons for not including Madge, she was literally Katniss's only other friend aside from Gale. 😭😬
Gales little "its no different" is really the start of his villain arc.
Tbh I really think it's very implied rue and her story are the cause of the revolution as the audience see later katniss is just who has the "right look" to be pushed... Rue and what she symbolically represents in both the books/movies/and real life tell the other half of the undertones.
MMMMM it’s been a while since I read the books, but that also makes sense!!
@@SophiaPhannn yep! Rue is the metaphor to the mocking jay bird she when you go back and watch/read these movies/books represents everything katniss wants to be but, is not it's why she is so impacted by her and the tone of the series shifts greatly after... Hunger games have many different thoughts,ideas,themes,and real life parallels Suzanne Collins was exploring but, there is a VERY strong undercurrent starting in the 2nd half of the book/s of rue/district 11 being symbolic allegoresis (since we don't know if Suzanne Collins, meant to do this) of black civil rights movement ideas one of the most obvious being katniss using a 3 finger hand rise panem verison of freedom from class oppression and peace which literally mirrors the real black power fist.... Interesting the financially poorest district and the black and worst treated district are who help start the rebellion because after all systematic poverty/oppression and systematic racism go hand and hand.
I remember vividly watching this opening night with my best friend back in 2012 ❤😫 good memories
I always thought the bakery was there for the more 'wealthy' (if you could call it that) people in district 12, specifically the mayor and his acquaintances. If the leaders (figureheads with next to no power, but still) still have some sort of luxury that the rest don't have, they're going to be more resistant against resistance, since they're going to fear losing that luxury. Probably required by the Capitol to have such a place installed to make sure small-town leaders wouldn't organize behind their backs
That's the way such things usually work.
i don't think they explained this well in the movie but the reason gale's name has higher chances of being reaped is because he applied for A LOT of tesserae. due to his father being dead and him having a big family, gale needs the extra rations supplied through the tesserae system. which is evil as fck when you think about it. the capitol starves the people in 12 to the bone and then dangles the opportunity for food and oil in front of the CHILDREN in exchange for what is essentially living like they're on death row until they hit 18.
Yeah I don’t think they explain it at all in the movies, but I remembered about this detail when I was looking up stuff about the book!
Even though district 12 is poor, there is still a big wealth disparity so there’s people that can afford cakes and people starving like katniss
Hmm that does make sense. Probably one of those details from the books that never show in the movies
@@SophiaPhannnyeah, its unfortunate that adaptations can’t go into it, but these movies are great anyway :)
You got to watch the classic "Battle Royale" Japanese film I see you mention it in the end, still iconic. Great video, thanks
THIS IS ALL I NEED TO DO MY DAILY CARDIO CUZ I'M PIST AND MARCHING IN PLACE LET PEETA BE HAPPY AND BAKE PLEASE OH MY GOD you took me right back there you bleep 🤡
I don't know if you remember this from the books or the movies, but they did say that finnick O'Dare was the youngest winner ever and he was 14. So that means everyone who is ever chosen at 12 or 13 died whether they were executed by one of the other players or died from you. Know dehydration or infection or something like that. No one under the age of 14 has ever survived the hunger games. I wonder how old the winners usually are. I'm going to assume 18 because a lot of the capitals kids train and tell their 18 and then volunteer and that's why they win so much. But the fact that no one under 14 has ever won the hunger games or would win the hunger games because the following year remember there was no kids in that one cuz it was all existing winners literally the youngest people in the 75th hunger games were pita and katniss because apparently I mean even there were some people who were still under 18 from the other districts, they weren't the ones chosen. That is just batshit crazy that in 74 years of the hunger games, no one who was 12 or 13 ever won. I don't know if anyone 15 ever won or if any other 14-year-olds ever won. I know 16-year-olds want a couple of times because hammock was 16 and he won also and you know I assume it was mostly 17 and 18-year-olds
I think I read somewhere that cakes being made in district 12 could just be what's sent to the capitol and the spare could be sold in the district but only to more well off families could afford it
Part of me feels like the Tracker Jackers scene contributed into my fear of wasps.
Every time I rewatch the movies or reread the books my crush on peeta gets rejuvenated 😂❤
ive been meaning to watch these movies and seeing your commentary basically convinced me to watch them lmao. love ur videos 🫶
we're reading the hunger games in school so you reacting to this came around the perfect time
Omg wild that it’s a part of curriculum now!!
I have to agree, Sophia, Harry Potter is a childhood favourite that i will always watch. But, The Hunger Games, there's something about the series that (for me) just gets better with age.
so excited for the new hunger games movie!!!
Katniss essentially sacrificed herself for Prim when she volunteered - she had no way to know she would win. When Katniss paired up with Rue, she saw Prim in her - Katniss would never have killed Rue at the end if they both made it. Katniss would have died so Rue got out.
So…in the books there were still people who were from the richer area of district 12 there just wasn’t many as there were in other districts and only the richer folk from district 12 could afford to buy cakes and everyone else would SOMETIMES buy bread. Katniss’s mom was actually from the richer area but married katniss’s dad who was from the poorer area. Katniss looks like alot of the people from the seam(poorer area) and her sister looks like her mom
I love being early I love your videos so much!! I’m excited to see Catching Fire! I never read the books, but I loved the movies when I was younger, but tbh I was a silly silly child, I didn’t get half of it, watching them now is so shocking bc now I actually get them, love it
Please watch the rest though 🤭
I gotta be honest, when I read the books and watched the movies growing up, I never really understood Katniss and Peeta. I felt that they didn't have much real chemistry, at least from Katniss' perspective. But I was never team Gale either. I didn't really see Katniss with either of them to be honest. I felt like the main part of the books were the Games and Katniss' experience. Don't get me wrong, I do think Katniss would probably have died without the whole Peeta pretend love story, but that's the thing - it was mostly just pretense, at least on Katniss' part. I don't remember there being much _real, romantic_ feelings from her when I read the first book, so thought there wasn't any real chemistry between them. In the movie I still think the characters don't have that much chemistry but the actors themselves do, if that makes sense? Like Katniss and Peeta, I still don't get it/see it as an actual real romance in the first movie and book (and the second to be fair) but I think Jennifer Lawrence and Josh Hutcherson did have chemistry. Especially when he said "Now I know I can't let you go. Stay... Please?" I think the actors had great chemistry there, the best in the whole movie, and the line delivery was great. But yeah growing up when I watched the movies and picked the books, I never really picked sides between Gale and Peeta because I felt like while she did seem to have some kind of feeling for Gale in the books, he was a lil... oddly controlling? Especially in the movies. I kinda liked Gale's character more in the books than the movies (obvious until Mockingjay but yeah). And I never really thought Katniss had any _real_ feelings for Peeta. Not that she disliked him, but I didn't feel romantic chemistry on her part from the book (and the movie because it was based on the book although the kiss had more spark in the movie). I was just neutral on them. But yeah, in the 3rd book obviously my opinions of both Gale and Peeta as Katniss' love interests. I think Peeta was a good/better choice but not that their relationship was necessarily healthy/formed healthily (I mean that's not really their fault that they had to go through all that and their relationship is based almost entirely on being in traumatic situations together/trauma bonding but still). But to be honest I could still see Katniss ending without a partner or just with someone who wasn't Peeta or Gale. Some people have said it would be a lonely ending/sad for her but I think... yes and no. Yes, she has experienced devastating losses which is sad and lonely, but I don't think romance necessarily solves that? I think she could have still had a good ending (fulfilled, happy, secure, etc.) even if she was single. Or if she got together with some unnamed character by the end, that could also be a good ending and it would be a refreshing supportive relationship with someone who didn't have the same trauma. (Again, some may argue that she wouldn't be able to bond with someone/an outsider the same way as with Peeta, because they were in the Games together, but I think if that's true then that in itself is sad, almost implying that she is too broken to bond romantically with anyone else who isn't also traumatised by death and murder). I mean if she (the character) was happy with Peeta and was able to kinda move on and (SPOILER) even have kids at the end, then that's fine by me because he is by no means a bad love interest or person. I just didn't feel much genuine romantic feeling from Katniss until like the 3rd book. I do like him as a love interest a bit more now, but I still think they had no real chemistry in the first two books at least from Katniss' side - and it's entirely in Katniss' POV with her internal monologue, so you can't even really get to know Peeta's emotions during their interactions. But that's different in the movies. I like Peeta in the movies a bit better as a love interest because the actor is obviously able to show more with his face, and you can _see_ the chemistry between the actors, especially in the kiss scene when he begged her not to go. So yeah he's warming up to me but growing up I never understood either Gale or Peeta as love interests. Lmao how did I end up typing this much???
See I used to think this when I was younger too because at face value, yeah Katniss was pretending to be in love with Peeta. However, I think there were a lot of small moments where Katniss did show love towards Peeta. It was just buried through denial and the fact that there were bigger things to worry about LOL because Katniss was a teenager who was essentially acting as a mom to Prim, then she got thrown into the games, and so on and so forth. Romance wasn’t really on the forefront of her mind. She was a very complex character with a lot of trauma, so it’s not surprising that her feelings wouldn’t be as straightforward or obvious! But I understand that everyone’s interpretations are different
@@SophiaPhannn I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt that way (or used to)! What you said makes total sense; the games in reality are no place for romance so obviously it wasn't really on her mind. And I do like that while it was pretense for a while/at first, Katniss couldn't deny she felt something for him. I actually really like Peeta as a character himself, I always have, I just didn't understand/see him as a real love interest (especially in the books) if that makes sense. I like how he's so... pacifist yet still wants to let the Capitol know that they don't own him, which he says right in the first one. Which also makes it that much more tragic when they get him later on and brainwash him. I really love his character arc and I do think he genuinely liked Katniss for a long time, which I liked to see (especially when literally seeing Josh Hutcherson acting so in love, it was pretty cute ngl) but I just felt like there wasn't much real romantic feeling response on her part for so long, if that makes sense. I'm not saying she didn't care about him, it was very clear that she did care a lot even in the books, but I didn't think she was truly _romantically_ attracted to him till much later in the story. It was also iffy because until the 3rd one, Gale was still very much an "option" as a love interest, and they kept kissing, so I wasn't sure what to think about how she truy felt about Peeta. But I still prefer him as a love interest in general at the end though over Gale. And I realise as I get older that I keep warming up to Peeta as a love interest more and more; he's sweet. Today rewatching that scene where they kiss and then he says "now I know I can't let you go... stay with me, please" I was totally SIMPING ngl. So I guess it was just Katniss' response to him/his feelings that had me uncertain. I've also seen a couple other reactions where they're like "girl, for him I would have already FOLDED" or "he's perfect, I'd marry him" 😂. But as you said, there wasn't really time for real romance and stuff when survival was the priority, and it was probably difficult even back in 12 because they were both so traumatised (Katniss' PTSD was so intense😢) and maybe also awkward because of Katniss and Gale's uncertain relationship after the first games. Also, "fake" affection probably turns into real love quite easily, especially when she already cared for him deeply as a person. Thank you for replying queen, sorry for these long ass comments!
@@SophiaPhannnyeah it’s at first pretense for her and also that she doesn’t have time to think about that in midst survival but it’s generally agreed upon that katniss falls in love with Peeta in catching fire. It’s just that 1) she’s in denial 2) her love language isn’t words it’s acts of service, it’s physical touch so when we were younger we couldn’t that she actually did love him she couldn’t say it out loud for a long time
I do have to disagree on her not ending up with someone who knows her pain though. Like most of her nations people theyre all pretty familiar with suffering but only fellow tributes are familiar with that added horror and what it comes with and being used for a revolution against your will. Sure you can have a relationship outside of that and its probably healthier but it doesnt suit Katniss' personality imo. I think she needs someone who understands the pain but can say its still no excuse to be a monster bc from anyone else its patronizing. Where as from peeta its the truth to her.
I think her true feelings for Peeta came out in book 2 during the 2nd games but then after everything that happened her developing feelings had to be relegated to the back burner. In the books though we do learn that they were definitely trauma bonding after the first games and thus it turned into a truer love there after.
In the books, the three-finger salute is used to show respect for a loved one, commonly used in the lower districts (10-12)
Okay so on the cake decorating thing, I thought that too, but I think I remember in the books - they described the way district twelve is much better than the movies could and Peeta's family and bakery were part of the 'richer' part of the district (kinda like where the mayor and his daughter lived if that helps jog your memory; it helped jog mine😅)
WAIT did he decorate cakes for the Capitol? That would make so much more sense?
14:28 I would not have expected Boimler to be so ruthless and evil...maybe it's William Boimler! 😉
also i love sophia's pure joy of geeking out over a film she loves.
Gail is 2 years older than katniss. Katniss was 16 year. Also, Gail's name is in multiple times for each year because he's also getting food for his mother and his. I believe three or four little siblings. So yeah, his name is in almost probably the maximum you could have it in. I don't think anyone in the district has it in more than 50
I've been on a rewatching binge with this series and it's so damn good every time. Love your commentary!
Edit: FOR RUE!!
Peeta & Katniss shipping name= Peeniss😂😂
I literally just got done rewatching this movie and was so happy to see that you reacted to it ❤
District 12 was sorta divided into 2 parts, a poorer and a richer one. The bakery was making cakes for the richer part, like for the mayor and his friends and visitors. But yeah probably not that many cakes over all.
By the way, you know a lot of those kids who are in the hunger games. They might have siblings her the right age to be allowed to volunteer for them. But pita I believe had one brother who was old enough to where he could volunteer and the other one was too old to do anything
We need the harry potter binge too girl.
Harry Potter would literally take me forever LOL
I think they deliberately dressed Katniss in colors that didn’t suit her in the dorms (ie the awful yellow that washed her out) to highlight the fact that she was never able to fully adapt to the capitol or relax in her given space. While the materials might be nice and luxurious, she always looked wrong and uncomfortable whilst wearing it. It really underscores the sense of being a doll or puppet for the capitol, to be dressed up and displayed before being discarded for their entertainment .
That is without Thanksgiving. Thing is called. It's called a cornucopia. That's also what I was picturing but like a metal one of those like tall enough to like a big enough to comfortably walk through and stand on top of me. Whatever I imagine. All the low value stuff would be at the very opening where you've got room to maneuver and run, but you'd have to go deep into the cornucopia to get anything good where you can't maneuver around and you'd have to fight your way out to be a literal sitting duck in the very very back for the best price, so I imagine that's how it would be. And yeah
other than me enjoying another reaction from Sophia... I'm just thinking about how nice her lip gloss looks omg especially with her current hair color *chef's kiss*
OMG thank you babe the versed lip oils are my tried and true ☝🏼
12:48 To be fair, Katniss is unfamiliar with the Capitol's synthetic bows because she's had a homemade, natural one her whole life, and Haymitch gave her the great advice to not practice her archery in front of the Careers so they wouldn't know she can shoot. Which would improve her chances of getting the bow bc if they didn't know she could use it, they'd be less likely to take it first. And only the Gamemakers would know she's good with a bow, so they'd make sure to include one for her in the weapons Cornucopia, so her chance at survival just makes their TV show "better."
Yesssss girl!!!! We need you to watch the entire series
YAY i love the hunger games so much
You know everyone always questions how Peeta painted himself into a rock but nobody ever asks what the hell he even used to make the paint. 👽🤔
Also as I remember from the book, the cornucopia actually did look like an actual cornucopia but made of gold, they climbed up the weaves in the metal.
nah peeta thought this was love island, he was too relaxed
Katniss being impulsive and her tendency to act before thinking were what made her such a hero. She refused to play by the Capitol's rules even when she didn't realize how deeply her actions defied Snow. His actions were based on his emotionless, self-serving, and sadistic nature while hers were founded on her compassion and caring for fellow human beings.
god I love that bread boy 😭
What a coincidence! My family and I were just watching The Hunger Games the day after this video came out. ☺️❤
I watched the first movie before reading the book lol. But The Hunger Games is such a good book adaptation and Catching Fire is my favorite book and movie 😭😭
Only Sophia and her awesomeness could get me to watch this particular movie 💯 #gottaloveSophia ❤️ #influencer #moreSophiaplease 👏🏿
No but you have a point about the cake decorating girl! District 12 is one of the poorer, if not the poorest. Not only would just basic food be the priority, but also what would they have to decorate the cakes? I'm not saying they couldn't be resourceful or something, I just mean that they lived in poverty and each family/person had to work so hard just to get food. Also, even they had icing and stuff sometimes, for Peeta to have that level of detail in painting was odd. I think maybe he just ended up talented/skilled at painting anyway, but the cake reason makes not much sense.
I read the first book maybe 2 weeks ago. And I’m glad I read the book after. Some may think that’s weird but I was an avid reader and it’s hard to read and be engrossed in a book hear that it’s being adapted in film only for the film to be trash in your opinion because of such a high standard you had in your head. I plan to read the 2nd end of Nov. In this reverse order I get to appreciate the film on its own as well as the book separately
Noooo I totally get that, some movie adaptations are SO trash that you wonder what the point of making it into a movie was if they were just gonna change everything 😂
You have to do Catching Fire!! It is peak
You look beautiful as always! I am so exited to see you cover these movies! Thank you for your constant hard work, stay safe and have a peaceful week. 💜✨😌”I fixed my notifications issue btw”
Thank you 🥹🫶🏼
This is a great action adventure film series based on the books of the same name!
I love these movies, always have. I remember watching them as they were coming out but it was only a couple of months ago that I read the series and wow! The series is so good and these movies are a 10/10 adaptation. Peeta will forever be the biggest simp there is and you know what? I’m a simp for him too so it works out lol ❤
Yeah when I was younger, I was more into the action and pretty blah about the romance. But now I’m kind of like “yeah Peeta is really sweet 🥹” the hand on the braid at the end of the movie really sold it for me hahaha
@@SophiaPhannn Since I saw the movies first the only Peeta I’ve ever known is Josh Hutcherson and honestly he is just so sweet he really sells it. The second book was also my favourite cause Peeta is there the whole time. Take your time with the reactions but the second you upload Catching Fire I will drop everything lol
hey sophia! i would LOVE IT if you could react to all the hunger games movies, i love your commentaries they’re so comforting lol
Don’t worry babe I definitely will! Imagine if I just didn’t LOOOOOL
stoppppp im actually obsessed with the hunger games
Gurllll I just reread the series!!! Excited to see your thoughts!!!
Have you read the fanfic in Peeta's POV!??? I highly recommend them!!! Called Peeta's Games, Throwing Sparks and The Mutt. So well written that in my mind, they are canon.
I definitely agree the Peeta and Katniss in the books definitely give a different look and vibe than the movie version but I think the spirit and sentiments are the same
Ugh can’t wait to hear you react catching fire 🔥
Idk if this is unpopular or not but gale should have died not rue or SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN’T READ OR SEEN MOCKINGJAY PART 2
Finnick and Prim 😭😭😭😭😭.
12:18 I just rewatched the movie last weekend and I made the same comment lmao, like what kind of market is there in District 12 for nicely decorated cakes? There's like two upperclass families in the whole district
I need to re-read the books now. I miss them
i've been rewatching your vidoes all weekend/week this is so nice
suzanne collins went to my university which i’m so proud of! i mean so did ryan murphy of glee fame but it cancels out!
Not Ryan Murphy 😂
You're so adorable lmao, if you wanna change the notes, you need to move your tongue 😂😂😂
I CAN’T DO IT 😭
12:18 he is from the rich part of town. Where the Mayor, the victors and just generally rich people live. No cakes for the poor people though.