A Deep Dive Into The Hunger Games Trilogy With Mike's Mic Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2023
- Thank you @mikesmic for joining me today for a deep CRITICAL discussion about the Hunger Games trilogy before The Ballad of Snakes and Songbirds comes out! This video tackles The Hunger Games AND Catching Fire and all of the glorious moments within them.
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the fact that they didnt talk about "If it werent for the baby."....
SICKENING.
the gag of the century
TRUUUUUUE
the first time I read that in the book I was GAGGED
THAT PART
@@user-be3iu9vz4sgiggling and kicking my feet literally
this is the collab of the century… like it’s serious to me
absolutely same. This is like the Spiderman crossover movie
This is honestly the Greatest colab reaction ive watch from all of youtube i forgot this was a reaction they were just chillin vibing Flow’d so well
I lost it when I just saw this in my recommended!!
Same the crossover I never knew I needed
It’s giving Lady Gaga and Beyoncé collabing for Telephone
I think Mags kissed Finnick because she couldn’t speak and it was happening so fast that there was no other way to express her love for finnick as quickly as the kiss.
Even though it’s not a romantic/sexual love, she needed to express it before she died and that’s what she thought of in the spur of the moment.
this!!! It wasn’t sexual, it was an affectionate goodbye :(
or on a more symbolic idea that she gave him the kiss of life as she sacrificed herself for him/the others idk
It was kind of motherly to me, in a lot of countries mothers kiss their children on the lips in a loving way, much like kissing on the cheeks
also I feel like since Finnick was basically sold for pleasure, he wasn’t fazed 😩 sad
right? it was a familial kiss
I will say to be fair to Peeta in the beginning of Catching Fire- Katniss basically cut him off completely after the games. His main issue wasn't that Katniss wasn't his gf, what bothered him is how easily she ignored him after everything they went through. I think Peeta's kind heart just didn't have the strength to bottle that trauma like Katniss did, and when he needed someone to be there, someone who understood what he went through, she was emotionally unavailable.
We know for all of Katniss' strengths, she is not the most socially adept, and she likely was unaware of what he needed from her, as well as what she needed from him. I don't think Katniss was even aware of how much Peeta's presence could help her process her own trauma until they were forced to be together for the tour.
Plus we don’t know exactly why he was living alone but I imagine just how shut out peeta feels in general after winning those first games, I feel like it must feel like a twist in the gut seeing Katniss live with her family and being surrounded by support while he lives in that big victors village house by himself because his parents and two brothers weren’t willing to live with him. Especially after just being traumatised and book wise just losing a leg so he needs more help than normal.
It’s never gone into much detail because we are in Katniss perspective but with how things are I imagine for peeta he’d probably feel distant to everyone. There’s a reason why he sees himself as so disposable and knows that no one needs him so it’s fine if he dies. I don’t think it’s just a simple thing of ‘she doesn’t love me!!’ We also know even in this distance peeta still brings the Everdeen family and Haymitch bread and frosted cookies and things
@@clover2739you perfectly summarized peetas pov. it breaks my heart thinking of him in that big empty house, his family isn’t around, katniss his only companion in this pushing him away because he’s a reminder of it all, having his body permanently disabled in the very games he said he didn’t want to change him, while still navigating that regardless of katniss pushing him and everyone away her existence (and more importantly to her; her families existence) relies heavily on having people be there for her and help her and he still shows up and basically sacrifices himself for haymitch. he’s one of my favorite characters i wish we got more insight on his perspective
@@skunkskiestink6620 it’s why I also think Peeta’s reaction at the end of the first book is more than ‘Omg you don’t love me back??’ He seemed to know at the beginning that they were putting on a show for the cameras. His issue seemed to be more that it seemed like Katniss and Haymitch were leaving him out (which happens again multiple times which he’s shown to be upset over) but he asks more about how much of it was real. I think for someone like him it would’ve been shocking and nice to find out someone actually seems to care about his life so much, to do all that for him when he could’ve been left to die. But then he realises it’s for the camera so he wonder how much of it is really real, did she care about his life at all or was that an act. Even though deep down he knows she must, it must hurt with his family life and how much he feels unneeded that the only time it seemed like someone really cared for him was for the cameras and was fake. Maybe I’m looking too into it, but even from what peeta says at the end when he gets upset it does seem more than him being islet that the girl he likes doesn’t actually like him back.
@@clover2739 yes i agree i never felt like peeta was whiny about her not liking him or something. they went through something intense together and before their games katniss was so convinced he was plotting against her. he opened up to her and showed her he didn’t have some plan he was a scared child like her. he just didn’t want the games to change him for his last few days alive. they manage to do their whole act and make it out alive even tho he lost his leg and she goes right back to being cold and distant. i think obviously katniss isn’t his mom and her role isn’t to fulfill him but i do think peetas relationship and grips with katniss are connected to katniss and her mothers issues. katniss resents her mother for shutting down at their hardest point but it’s a coping mechanism she has also developed. i think that peeta holds up a mirror to katniss that she too disassociates and shuts down when she’s going through it and although that’s understandable, it does make it easier to push through and connect with the people who love you and are going through those same situations with you. peeta is there to show katniss that this coping mechanism isn’t healthy and she needs to learn to lean on others.
@@clover2739 He lost a leg in the book?
Gale doesn’t volunteer because they both agreed that if one goes into the games that they will hunt and provide for the other’s family if the other dies
this i remember
it’s also too late for him to volunteer as they’ve already moved on to the female candidate
@@analuizafmsgale could not volunteer in Katniss or Prom's place. The books never suggested that he and Peeta had enough of a relationship for him to volunteer on his behalf
@@liz_loves_catsit doesn't matter if you have no relation to the Person you're volunteering for, as we can see in the career districts. Its only like an unspoken rule in district 12 that you wouldnt volunteer for someone not close to you, because why would you do that to your family.
@@Milena_wins they don't have to be family to not get along. Gale and Peeta had no reason to volunteer on each other's behalf. They didn't get along. They didn't need to throw themselves on the sword for each other
it is truly criminal that if it wasn't for the baby didnt make it into the video because peeta truly gagged us all with that
Life sentence type of criminal
Or him hitting the force field , the cpr , finnick realising katniss loves peeta 😭
PR move of the CENTURY
I get why mike doesn’t like peeta. He needed so much help in catching fire. But the real reason is that the wound on his leg was badly infected and he lost his leg. He didn’t adjust well with a prosthetic leg so he basically had 1 leg. In the movie, they cut this part off and just gave him that magical cream that healed his wound when actually his leg got amputated after the first game. Plus, the district 12 bombing situation k1lled all of his family members. So basically Katniss is the only person he had left😭
for real tho!! to be honest they ruined peeta's character with this. him losing his leg is such a big part of his struggles, and exactly why he's having trouble in the games. instead, they just kept his struggles and made him look weak. i'm team peeta forever lol
@@alexislee8904 right? he's soft but not weak like can we bfr?? he had 1 leg, no family. he was tortured by the capitol and didn't know his true self anymore. but at the end he's still there for her and trying to be stronger for her despite his lost and everything he went through. gale could never lol
I forgot this!!!! Thank you!
I know they sent Peeta because Haymitch couldn't function without alcohol and he needed to be behind the scenes working with the rebels but Peeta really was basically a damsel in distress lol
no fr i get why movie onlys hate peeta bc i would think he’s a bit irrelevant too if i never read the books.
Cato couldn't climb a tree because he was too big/heavy and not quick. every time he tried, branches snap under his weight. that's one of the times where Katniss being borderline malnourished and short as a result worked in her favor...but it's also why Clove could tackle her so easily. the same thing applies to Rue climbing but also being easily trapped under a net.
As well as this he and the other careers are not from manual labor districts and never learnt how to climb trees effectively
See this makes perfect sense but like the fact that they had extra arrows plus the knives and cloves just as small could have gotten up idk alot of plot holes
Didn’t rue also climb trees in her district to let people know it was quitting time?
@@gabriellepriest5007 yup and they explicitly chose her bc she was the smallest
Johanna won by crying and pretending to be weak until the actual games start and then just goes ham - which is why Katniss struggled trusting Peeta right after their names were called and sees him cry
oh sht really? thats crazy like all i knew was that she was obviously great during her games like ruthless
(btw im reading your comments for context bc i never even finished reading the 1st book 12ish yrs ago)
she pretended to be weak in the games as well, she waited until there were only few left and then slaughtered them with her axe
@@No1PlutoSupporter it’s 1 of the reasons why she really needed allies in the quarter quell. her fake-out strategy wouldn’t work twice. Johanna’s training/strength score is “low-to-medium” but Katniss & Peeta scored 12
@@Nadia-jk5jwkatniss and Peeta only scored so high because Snow wanted the careers to target them first and kill them quickly. Haymitch actually tells them to pretend to be weaker and not show their talents so they wouldn’t be targeted. Neither of them showed skill worth a 12, they just kinda made a mockery of it all. For that they had to be punished and it sealed their fate. (It’s known that the careers target whoever has the highest score first to prove that they are the strongest and instill fear in the other tributes. This is why they went so hard after katniss in the first games and were just using Peeta to track her down before they planned on killing him)
@@Aliteralmilfive only seen the movies and u guys are making me want to read the books rn
Rue being a "PR move" TOOK ME OUT 😭😭😭
17:39 I believe in the books the crane has to wait until the other tributes are far enough from the body so part of Katniss’ rebellion is that she doesn’t let the crane take Rue right away and gives her a funeral
that’s so interesting
I thought the crane was invented because one of the tributes (titus) was cannibalizing all the body's so the crane was invented to take the bodies quicker. I could be wrong tho
i love how basically all of their questions can be easily answered by reading the books. to me it shows that people who make book adaptations sometimes assume that almost everyone watching will be a book fan so they dont have to give full context to things. "they'll know what happens in this scene, they'll understand why character X did that". i remember a lot harry potter films having similar problems.
@@blabla187 yeah that will work as well
its literally driving me insane that they're like "why doesn't this blah blah blah???" and its like ITS IN THE BOOK! I'm having the moment of that one tiktok where's he's like "its under the sauce ITS UNDER THE SAUCE!!"
While I agree with you, this is a difficult slope.
There are some details that may make the film lose flow and slow it down, but there are other details like Peeta losing his leg that should have made it in.
It is really hard to figure out what extra details are necessary and which ones are ok to take out.
antisemitism simulator enjoyer 🫵
@@Neonlazerbeams u say this as if they dont say like 50 times in this video that they know its probably in the books but theyre not gonna read them 😭☠
I'm choosing to believe that Peeta's parents were providing the capitol with these specialized cakes that require this sort of insane level of artistry and that's where he got the skill from cause otherwise I bust out laughing every time I watch the scene
No because they must’ve been the most life altering cakes you’ve ever seen like, they were made specifically for Snow, because WHERE DID HE GET THOSE SKILLS FROM 😭
I don’t believe that’s true because first of all how would they get the cakes and stuff to the train station?and technically they would be really rich (according to District 12) and plus remember that there’s a whole lot of bakers in the Capitol that can bake and stuff
Not plausible bcuz only the mentors can send stuff. Haymitch didn't send anything to peeta during the 1st hunger games
The movie really exaggerated this scene.
In the book he just covered himself with mud & leaves not made himself look like a photo realistic slab of rock.
The only real reason that worked was because the careers had probably gone far away from that area to heal from their tracker jacker stings (remember that Katniss had a crazy trip & was out for days & she only got stung like three times unlike the careers) & then were busy digging up those explosives inside the podiums so that the D3 tribute could make that boobytrap for the food (& all the other remaining tributes were probably hiding). Peeta was so lucky that Katniss found him first.
Also any natural tan from being outside for so long was probably gone at that point since he was also loosing so much blood (from fighting Cato) that he was gonna die from blood poisoning as well as starvation.
My Auntie used to do really intricate cakes that looked like a photo until you could actually just print a photo on icing haha she did one for my brother's wedding of woodland. I imagine that's what he did as well.
Foxface was identifying edible plants not matching pictures - which is why it’s theorized she was offing herself when she ate the berries. She’s also supposed to be super clever so her trusting some guy to know edible plants just doesn’t make sense and she wasn’t beating the careers, thresh and Peeniss.
But I remember seeing that's those berries are a district 12 and 13 specific berries so no one else who isn't familiar with district 12 vegetation would know that they are poisonous since they look similar to another berry
Panem is a futuristic USA. District 12 is in Appalachia (KY) and district 5 where Foxface is from is just outside of the Capitol (Colorado) so Utah or Wyoming. Night lock is supposed to be based off of Deadly Nightshade or Poison Hemlock (or combination of both) and both grow across the US. Also the edible plants station in training also teaches about recognizing poisonous plants and the number 1 rule is to error on the side of caution.
yes i believe she killed herself but made it look like it was by accident because if you commit suicide in the games the capitol kills your family or something like that
To be fair, she was probably very hungry & exhausted. I think in the book, they describe her corpse as "emanciated". So she might have made a mistake that she wouldn't normally make, because she wasn't thinking straight anymore :(
The actress who played Foxface actually addressed this theory recently at the TBSS premiere! She recalled that she went to the director about this theory pretty early on and he basically said no. But she herself is a believer of the theory due to Foxfaces intelligence and the “fruit ninja” scene. In the books it was implied that she was just hungry and didn’t know the berries were poisonous but people believe movie Foxface did it on purpose, knowing the properties of the berries.
4:12 Gale’s name is in there so many times because he’s from a pretty big family and his father died in the same accident that killed Katniss’s father. There’s a system in the districts called “tesserae” where you put additional tickets with your name into the reaping in exchange for a years supply of food and oil for one person. Some people like Gale, Rue, and even Katniss herself put their names in multiple times to feed larger families. Prim didn’t take tesserae and neither did any of those characters siblings because they all refused to let them risk it.
6:20 Gale didn’t volunteer because he and Katniss had an agreement where if one of their names was pulled the other would look after their family
Yes!!! This! I really wish they had read the book so they would have known this, but it's all good. Fun video
mike and trin with their coordinating backgrounds like wow this really is two queens maximizing their joint slay
its giving world domination without even breaking a nail 💅😍
“you better not be serving seneca crane when i get there”
mike: …
Effie was climbing the social ladder so her being assigned district 12 makes sense. You get a better district the better connections you have. Cinna was a new designer so he was assigned 12 even tho he asked for it.
Sorry I lied, I do have to speak. Peeta is an artist and continues to be throughout the books. He illustrates a book of herbs, plants, fruits etc and their properties with Katniss in CF and he decorates an elaborate cake for Finnick’s wedding in Mockingjay and that’s just off the top of my head. The CIA level disguise for the first movie was over the top though LOL
And his painting of Rue in the rating section of catching fire!!!
Trin's theory about how the quality of the camera work/shots improves as we and the characters enter the superficial world of the capitol and how it visually blurs the lines between the real world (where the capitol people are hideous and grotesque) and the "perfect" world the capitol (where the extravagance is normal) is genuinely so GENIUS! i NEVER even made the connection in my brain. her observation skills are crazy
4:19 Gale has like 3 siblings (plus his mother) to feed who are all younger than him. His mother was pregnant when his father died. So he has to provide for his family. He took out Tess for all of his siblings because, like Katniss, he doesn't want his siblings to put their names in more times than they need to (Prim's name is in their 1! Time) he doesn't want to heighten their chance to get picked, so he takes like 5 Tess + his own name getting tossed in the bowl, doubling every year, for multiple years just so his siblings have a low possibility of getting picked. He puts all the burden and likelihood of getting reaped on his own shoulders so that his family is a tiny bit saver
wish he was like this in the movies
That's why I was bummed out that he became so revengeful which causes the deaths of innocent children. Katniss lost a life time long friend and who was with her half of her life. He changed so much.
@@scorpioj3 It's actually interesting that you say he changed so much, because I think Suzanne Collins/the films do a really great job of foreshadowing Gale's "change" into the person he becomes. For example, that scene near the beginning of the first movie, where Gale says "You know how to hunt" and Katniss says "Yeah, animals! Not people" and Gale says "It's the same thing." It shows that Gale has always had a disregard for human life, that Gale doesn't actually view those different from him as people. Another example is when Gale is quite vocally resentful of Madge Undersee in the book, because Gale has fallen for the us vs. them mentality that the Capitol instills in people (which is what the actual Hunger Games serves as a metaphor for) -- and eventually leads Gale to bombing innocent children. In fact, it's interesting that Gale feels so tortured at the end that he "killed" Prim. We have to wonder: would he care if he didn't kill Katniss's sister, and he only killed some random other people that aren't close to him? I think Suzanne Collins did a really good job in crafting Gale's character arc!
@@juju-kn6rxSuzanne was forced to add the love triangle she wanted him to just be katniss’s best friend, a lot of his actions in the book are also more obvious to how he comes to the final plan and it’s awful but is he wrong it’s abit like if someone kills all your children are you truly evil if you do it to them or are you just seeking revenge and doing something evil has your hand been forced and are you able to live with yourself afterwards
@@macwell685good points
devastated that you guys didn’t cover the “if it weren’t for the baby” peeta moment where he gagged everyone
I remember almost nothing from the first book I read when I was like 10 but the 1 I remember the most is that it was strongly implied that the mutts where made of the dead tributes, or at least their eyes. They behaved human like and held resemblance to the tributes, I think Katniss recognizes one as Rue.
omg that’s horrific
they were probably just designed like the tributes to scare the remaining ones, because katniss is having like a crisis about it trying to figure it out and I don’t think they would be allowed to dissect the dead tributes before they go home
Katniss putting those flowers around Rue was one of her first acts against the Capitol because it both gave her favor and showed the brutal truth behind the games themselves to the viewers. She did it intentionally both out of grief and anger.
27:56 Mags volunteered to take Annie’s place, that’s why Finnick wasn’t shocked by the kiss bc he and Mags were like family - Haymitch even says that Mags basically raised Finnick, and that’s also why he’s so sad when she dies :((
Still! I love my mum but if she was abt to die I would NOT kiss her on the lips??! On the cheek maybe, I’d give her a big hug but NOT KISS HER ON THE LIPS??! No matter which why you twist it I can’t get on board with the kiss and I’ve also read the books
@@beneesodeinde5170 ok but they also don’t live in the same world we do. Just because it’s weird to you doesn’t mean it’s not socially acceptable in thg universe
@@R0SEE_xolol even in _this_ world there are people who treat kisses on the lips as platonic and/or familial. it's really just a case of "you need to go outside more".
@@mophead_xu lol true
OH MY GOD WHEN MY TWO WORLDS COLLIDE
JOHANNA won her game in the best most iconic way: she pretended to be weak up until the games so that noone paid her any attention and then she just came OUTTA THE GATES SWINGING and for quarter quell she was the only living District 7 female victor
17:36 I’m pretty sure in the books it talks about how they don’t retrieve the bodies when other contestants are around because they don’t want them to escape with the ship or whatever. That’s why they wait until Katniss walks away.
Also with the Cato climbing the tree thing, they said it’s because katniss grew up climbing trees outside of district 12 and the other kids haven’t. Also because Cato was so much bigger and stronger katniss was up in the thin parts of the tree so they couldn’t reach her
@@dddayesq5061it’s mostly about weight. he was able to climb the tree, but not to the high branches where katniss and rue (both fairly small and malnourished) were hiding
the funny thing is that in the movie he totally could have just thrown a spear at her, she wasn’t even that high up and he just gave up after trying to climb like twice. my friend who didn’t read the books was so confused
mike and trin together, are you kidding me??? this is the best thing ever omgg
Their energies match so perfectly!!!! I mean, they got each others jokes, finished each others sandwichs, that is THE collab!
I feel like this is Effie's first game that is probably why she was assigned to 12 being a newbie. Also why she was so enthusiastic about everything and how she easily got attached to her team
it’s not. in the books she’s been doing the job for as long as katniss can remember.
me sitting here watching u guys ask questions that are answered in the book literally thinking to myself like “wait.. did they read the books?” then trins like WELP WE DIDNT READ THE BOOKS SO LMAOO IM DEAD 😭😭💀💀
29:10 i think that's because she didn't want Peeta to go back in, so she was so relieved when it was Haymitch's name. You can see how her tone changes again when Peeta volunteers. The fact that her two victors would go back in and most likely die was heartbreaking to her
Yeah like Katniss is Haymitch's girl while Peeta is Effie's boy like she's the MOTHER of PEETA
@funfunslay well yeah but also katniss had no choice, she was the only female victor, whereas for Peeta there was 50% chance he wouldn't be picked. Effie had "accepted" Katniss had to go again but was holding that hope that Peeta would be safe
in the books it's explained that Katniss and Haymich had an agreement that if Peeta's name was called he'd volunteer, and Haymich points out to her that if his named is called there would be nothing she could do about it.
@@genesisblaise3191thats literally in the movie
and haymitch would have volunteered if peeta was picked bc he promised katniss they’d protect him. sad
Mike’s thirst for Haymitch 😂 Peeta slander is understandable because they did him dirty in the movies, my boy didn’t lose his leg for them to just do that disservice to his character.
Capitol citizens wanting Katniss and Peeta to do it already (like Trin) must have lost their minds when the two heavily made out in the quarter quell arena but was pulled back to reality by the lighting. And Finnick waking up seeing their lovebirds tangled together knowing what they were up to while “keeping watch”. 😂
The books have other juicy little details other than the mushy, sticky nightlock berries, just saying.
mike saying he wantsless romance is so funny bc the books are less romance more rebellion 😭😭 BUT HE WONT READ THEM😭
7:00 I think the book (if I remember correctly) implies that usually it’s newer staff that’s placed for the “lower” districts. I think Effie made a remark to Katniss at one point saying something along the lines of “if you win I might get promoted to a better district next year”
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE COLLAB OF THE CENTURY!!!
i vaguely remember mags kind of raising finnick because mags was finnick’s mentor and finnick was the youngest tribute to ever win. they were really close so she was kind of a maternal figure role kind of like a grandmother so the kiss isn’t totally weird if you think about it like that. she also pointed out the cameras after she volunteered for annie and finnick hugged her because she didn’t want the other tributes to see his weakness for her (mags). he was her grandbaby :(
the utterly shameless mentions of the refusal to read the books was comedy gold babes love yall
people always joke about peeta and the cake decor/camo body paint but like it’s discussed in the books that peeta just has a natural talent/likes art period. i’m sure cake decorating was a way for him to practice and explore that in a practical way but his talent for painting is suppose to be bigger and deeper than just the cake decorating and i like that it’s like a little nugget of “this is peeta without the pressure of having to work at his parents bakery or fight in the arena he’s a talented artist” it reminds me of katniss’ singing how it’s not something she could or wants to pursue but it’s a characteristic of her from outside the games or even the pressures of her life back home. it feels kinda funny how 2 people with so much crazy stressful life changing shit happening to them but deep down they’re just kids who like to be like to do their random little hobbies and activities it just feels humanizing, relatable, etc
37:55 wondering what the mutts are made of.... in the books the dogs are made to look like the tributes, with identical eyes to each dead tribute and district numbers on their collars. In the prequel you find out the avoxs (people forced into servitude with their tongues cut off as a punishment for rebellion) were used for some of the original capitol mutations. trulyyyyy horror worthy stuff
The more I look into the lore of the hunger games universe the more horrifying it gets. I’m surprised it’s categorized as just a teen dystopia and not a full on dystopian horror series.
I love this so much. Still watching, but I think the reason Gale didn't volunteer in Peeta's place was because he promised to always look after and protect Prim and her mother. But I agree with Trin in that I've never looked at Gale and thought "He ate", hahaha.
I think the other thing is that him or Katniss would’ve had to kill the other? like that’s a big part of it
@@naiapulotu7760 True, but I think the implication is that if he volunteered he’d sacrifice himself for her.
Peeta really started the “is it real or is it cake” trend
this is the collab of the ages😭 also, I know they’re not gonna read the books, but it’s so funny how right they are about how many of their questions are answered in the books😭
a couple of thoughts:
- there wasn’t much peeta/katniss romance at first cause katniss was genuinely just tryna survive. but at the same time, it was also very romance centric because of the whole “star-crossed lovers” narrative they were playing up
- the peacekeepers could have actually not recognized the victors at first cause they don’t have tv’s (from what I remember). peacekeepers stay posted at bases in the districts they are sent to, so it’s not like they came from the capitol knowing full well who everyone was
- I’m like 95% sure that they knew what order the sections of the clock were in because of the lighting at the tree signalling 12 o’clock. the lightning struck which signalled fog, then after the hour of fog, our main group went through the monkey section, and so on
- I can’t remember if the mutt dogs were also created from absolutely nothing in the books, but there is a capitol lab! if everything from ABOSAS was carried on through the decades, then the monkeys were muttations created specifically for the games
- snow chose those flowers cause his grandma’am grew them and was quite obsessed with them
- snow and seneca really should’ve just left the “two winners from the same district” rule alone cause it would’ve just seemed like a cool lil thing they were doing for this year’s games
they could've said the two winners bit was pr to hype up the quarter quell. like "if you think 74 was something, wait til you see 75!"
The mutts were mutated from the dead tributes from what I remember! Or just made to look like them? Truly altered my brain chemistry haha
katniss was lowkey hilarious in the first book with the romance because she’d be like “I literally hate kissing this guy” and then occasionally be like “damn actually I kinda like him” and just let it go immediately after, which makes sense because of the survival thing but still
one of my fav aspects of the books is the mystery around the background characters!! it was the small things weaved in that made them (joanna, annie, tigris etc) so memorable and real. im literally reliving my 12 year old hg obsession rn..
You have a running total of numbers of time your name goes in. It’s 1 when you’re 12, 2 (+1) for 13, 3(+3) for 14, 4(+6) for 15, 5(+10) for 16 etc. Gale put his name in an extra time each year for all of his siblings and mom so they all had an extra serving of bread, oil etc that helps them get through the year
aight as someone who has read the books countless times (comfort book) let me answer ur questions:
1. gale had so many entries bc it’s 1 extra entry each year per person, then you can add entries for per person for a year supply of grain so since gale has like 5 siblings then himself he gets 42 entries because he is 17 which is 6 entries that year.
2.Effie took district 12 bc it was the same district her mother had when her mother was an escort.
3. Cato couldn’t climb the tree because he was too heavy and the branches kept breaking (this is clarified in the books).
4. Flickerman is the host and that job runs in the family, he is very loyal to the capitol and does have control over what he says but knows to keep it in line with the capitol propaganda.
5. The reason the claw doesn’t immediately scoop rue up is bc they don’t send it down if there is a contestant nearby, in order to avoid injuring the contestant or having the contestant try to hijack it or whatever.
6. The reason petta chose that spot specifically is bc he needed to be by a water source since water was limited in the arena and since he couldn’t move easily he wanted to disguise himself where he wouldn’t have to move each time he needed water.
7. I think the Mags/Finnick kiss is due to like cultural norms for district 4.
8. The sigh is bc she knows petta will volunteer, however it could also be bc she knows if petta doesn’t volunteer he won’t know how to mentor (send gifts, get sponsors, etc.) like haymitch does. That and Haymitch wouldn’t do as well in the HG as petta would.
9. The rebellion was simmering before Katniss even came around, however once they had a face that other districts would rally around it kicked into full speed. The victory tour is 6 months after the HG then the next HG is a year later so as soon as the 74th ended and Crane ate it Heavensbee stepped up to create a games that district 13 could use for the rebellion.
10. Johanna won her games by implementing a fake persona, portraying herself as a "sniveling, cowardly fool" then turns out she was a badass with an axe and could climb trees.
yupp just venmo me next time girlies.
please correct me if I am wrong but did they not cover THE iconic "if... if it wasn't for the baby" scene?! *STILL, could not have asked for a better video, THIS IS IT*
You can tell you guys haven’t read the books 😂 but I still loved listening to this!!
I was begging my phone to have them just read the books 😭
the whole berries discussion has me dead💀
this is so mercedes joining the troubletones like omg the joint slay is slaying
4:11 Gale has a lot of brothers and a mom to feed. It's for all of them. That's why he has so many entries in the reaping. Imagine this being the same for other kids in 12. Some may even have more than Gale in the reaping just to eat. Which is why it doesn't make sense how Prim (1) and Peeta (5?) got called when their names are very unlikely to get picked.
with the way the 12 years olds just have their name in once but there seems to regularly be like one young kid every games i def think younger kids being picked are rigged for the drama. like katniss talks about how victors’ children get picked too often for it to be organic and she’s sure if she ever had kids they would be picked and i think it’s similar with prim or rues situation.
The entries stack each year and if you take the tesserae for members of your family it also adds to that. Rue would have probably had tesserae for her parents and younger siblings to get extra food, so her name would have been in several times over the required entry.
two minutes in and mike already did the olivia wilde nodding
A duo I didn't know I needed
The contrast and yet the SYMMETRY OF YALL’S BACKGROUNDS I CANT RN❤
Two side of the same coin❤
i actually felt the earth shift a bit when this video got posted. the slay of this collab rumbled at a tectonic level
Okay I LOVE THIS COLLAB
And also, there are people in the US without broadband internet access, meanwhile we have AI and robot police dogs 🤷 so it's not that crazy
IT NEVER EVEN CROSSED MY MIND THAT THIS COLLAB COULD HAPPEN BUT I AM SO HAPPY THAT IT HAS
Something interesting in the first movie is that in the training center, fox-face is identifying plants on that machine thing, implying that she actually had a good knowledge about what fruits or berries would be edible in the arena. This could mean that her death by poisoning via berry in the games was a suicide because she probably already knew the berry was poisonous because she literally trained for it.
Every time you guys asked a question that was answered in the books a fairly died 😭 anyway loved the commentary can’t wait for the next video you guys are the realest
I could have watched 3 hours of this as a book fan pure entertainment and I agree
amazing collab! you both should get the people who read the books to comment random trivia to you both and then react to those answers or do a try fill in the blank on trivia idk but we need more of this duo
I live for this idea!!!
The fact that you didn’t mention Peta dropping the fake baby bomb😭😭😭😭 that was absolute fire🔥🔥🔥🔥
I will say something interesting about the books and Caesar’s character is in the first book he is described as earnest in a way as in he really tries to help each tribute as much as possible through their moment in the spotlight during his interviews, while I’m sure this changed in the next two books I always found that aspect of his character most interesting.
record-breaking collab this means so much to me i cant explain it
So happy to see two beautiful queens working together 😊
Fun fact: in the first book katniss lost her hearing from the explosions and Peeta had to amputate one of his legs, specifically the one that got cut which is why he was camouflaged with the rocks, ready to accept his fate
Glad Trin knew she couldn’t JUST make a Hunger Games evaluation without including Mike’s Mic 👑
This is the exact feeling when that’s so sweet life of Hannah Montana premiered 🤩
the visual language difference between The Hunger Games and Catching Fire, could also be cause they switched directors. it's been Francis Lawrence since Catching Fire to Ballad now.
16:25 in the book katniss mentions that due to her lighter body weight that it was easier for her to climb the tree higher and faster because she wouldn’t break the branches. same as rue. she mentions that she would be the one to climb trees back in district 12 when hunting with gale because she could steal eggs from birds nest and not fall from the trees.
Out of all the names Mike could have said, I wasn't expecting Haymitch. But now that he mentioned it, I would want to read that.
so many people want a haymitch sequel. his games were WILD he beat out 2x the contestants anyone else had to because he was in the quarter quell that had double the players. AND his whole family is killed off because he uses the arenas force field to win which lowkey embarrassed the capitol which is why he’s an alcoholic his whole family is gone because of what he did. honestly so so many characters are so well rounded and could have amazing books about their POV
The duo I never knew I needed
The thing is if Effie had said Peeta, Haymitch would've volunteered for him, and I don't think anyone between her, Katniss and Peeta were going to let that happen.
Katniss literally made a deal with Haymith so that he would volunteer if Peeta’s name was called
@debora13897 yeah or that, either way he wouldve never been the one to go
Effie didn't care about Haymitch yet, it was a sigh of relief that he was called. Katniss, as debora13897 said, wanted to protect Peeta so she told Haymitch to volunteer if Peeta was called. If Peeta was called, Haymitch would have gone. Leaving Peeta as the only one who didn't want Haymitch to go. Peeta wanted to be able to protect Katniss in the arena while Haymitch uses his influence in the capitol to get Katniss sponsors. That is why Peeta volunteered.
The disrespect of not having 5 minutes talking about THE dress and "if it weren't for the baby" 😭😭
speaking of effy, i remember when the movie came out it was nominated for some awards and elizabeth banks won the award for best on screen transformation or something. so they literally got better makeup for the second movie in the story and in the actual production. iconic.
No stop,,,, they don’t fully understand how iconic this collab is- I am 24 years of age and squealed at the thumbnail I swear to christ
As soon as you said the answers are probably in the books but you're not going to read them, I unfurrowed my eyebrows and had a very fucking good time 💕💕💕
The mischaracterization of peeta is WILD
The best part if this is every time one of you asks a question the other is like "i'm sure it's in the book or i'm sure we could find out from somewhereee" GOLD
THE SCREAM I SCRUMPT
amazing, my two faves have come together to maximise their joint slay
gale's name was in the reaping so many times because he has 3 siblings + his mother to take care of and putting his name in extra times means they get extra food which they obviously need. he doesnt volunteer when peeta's name is reaped because him and Katniss have an agreement that if one of them is reaped, the other must take care of the other's family including their own. peeta was able to conceal himself in the rocks using mud and plants (this was explained in the books but also shown in the movie) cato was unable to climb the tree to katniss because hes too big and also hes been trained as a fighter and killer from birth, escaping through climbing trees is probably something he never learnt. as for mags kissing finnick, she's unable to speak when shes dying and its her way of saying goodbye, its nothing more than that. besides, this could be customary in district 4, its common in many cultures and wouldnt be far-fetched to assume the same for district 4.
I will explain: Finnick’s whole speech on Interview Night with Caesar Flickerman was one of the last-ditch efforts to convince (or in his case seduce) the watchers to cancel the games. But as we saw, even Peeta’s effort of telling everyone she was pregnant didn’t make a difference… although it was the only thing that got even close!
Also Trin, Johanna Mason won her games pretending to be weak in the training sessions then using her skills as a surprise attack in the games. She was from district 7 which was a lumber district. Lots of practice with an axe.
You guys don't know me, but you did this for me... like this is my superbowl!!!
Not only am I rewatching The Hunger Games, but NEVER in my LIFE did I expect my two favorite creators to collaborate.
the careers and the tree moment is so telling to me. kato couldn’t climb the tree bc he’s too strong and couldn’t tell which branches were the strongest because he focused his training on muscle. they didn’t want clove to waste her daggers because she isn’t good with another weapon and those specific ones are limited. and glimmers trainers were counting on her looks and her being a career
I loved this video omg you guys put into words so many of my thoughts about the movies… but can we talk about “if it weren’t for the baby” LIKE PEETA ATE THAT UP like he knew it would get a rise from the capital. Like he’s so good with the whole performance aspect of the games it’s too good but also shows how people would be up and arms about a fetus that’s not even real while allowing children kill each other for their entertainment.
Effie sighs because she thinks there’s a chance Katniss and Peeta have a chance of living happily ever after. She’s not a part of the rebel plan and never had a real relationship with haymitch before the first movie
Thank you, first reply I've seen about this that shares my view. She sighs out of relief that it is not peeta, but then gets surprised and upset when peeta volunteers. Frustrated me that most people interpreted it a different way
It's funny that you mention the capitol zoo because well kind of sorta. They're from the muttations lab, those dogs in the book actually had the characteristics physically of the other tributes. There was a glimmer mutt there was a rue mutt Do you know how sick that is.
trin this collab is so slay of you thank you for this and for letting me procrastinate my work while you and mike analyse every aspect of the hunger games movies
This should be a series or a podcast! This collab is everything!
This is a historical moment. A canon event in my life.
I saw the prequel last night and really enjoyed it. The guy who plays young President Snow was so good.
This video is a masterpiece!
You guys play off each other sooo well
6:58 i think Effie was placed there because she's loyal to the capitol, and since there's always tension in 12 they wouldn't have put a "difficult" employee there. Effie wanted to chaperone the higher districts instead (for sure) but i don't think she had enough favors in the capitol to pull it off.
Trin and Michael’s Microphone feeding the good people🧎
I am not even kidding im on the floor like the world has changed with this collab
The reason why Gale's name was in the reaping so many times is because you could get food in exchange of having more papers with your name. And every year the numbers doubled. That made everything even more horrible, because kids had to risk getting picked for the games if they didn't wanted to die of hunger.
Heck yes...I've only just started this video and I'm so excited! Thank you for this content :D