rats rats we're the rats we stalk at night we prey at night we're the rats i'm the giant rat who makes the rules lets see what kind of trouble we get ourselves into
Reflective Armor Plating was incredibly useful for the Feltotem's Fall Mage Tower Challenge in Legion, allowing you to deflect the Fel Burst nuke the boss casted at your pet
I'm glad you covered monkeys and their blind being bugged, but what you didn't cover was the Hunters in arena coming in with 4-5 monkeys, using the blind-stun, abandoning pet mid-fight and summoning another monkey to do it all over again, it was chaos lol.
I fondly remember the hunter in wrath who camped the horde flightpath in Booty Bay with a rhino. As soon as someone landed, they'd get punted onto the docks to their death. Evil, and truly hilarious
I can't remember if it was Monkeys, Crabs, or Spiders, but I remember them being so broken in Cataclysm PVP lol. You could have multiple pets and they all had their own individual cd, so you could root with spider/blind with monkey/I think stun with crab and then quickly switch out your pets for another and do it again. I remember people having like 5 monkeys in rated arenas, it was a crazy time to be alive.
was the monkey* ppl even had a macro for instant pet swap. it used to abandoned pet instantly instead of the 2 sec dismiss. ofc u would have to tame a new pets every time after the arena but with cata change that made ur newly tamed pet is same as ur level u didnt need to level the last 5 levels as wotlk forced u to do.
No mention of the ability that made me and a lot of others fall in love with spirit beasts!? Spirit strike felt so special even though it was just a moonfire cast by a pet lol
I don't recall how it was in Cata, but in Wrath, Chimera Shot when used on a target afflicted with Scorpid Sting was also a 10sec disarm, which was great against double DPS comps in arena since a Hunter could disarm both simultaneously, then one of them for another few seconds as well.
@@karolworkowski3261 Yeah, I worded that poorly it seems. You could use Chimera on one, then have the pet disarm the other, having both disarmed at once until the pet one wore off.
chimera shot used to attack a 2nd nearby target as well. so in theory it can be done if both targets had scorpid sting. starting in cata the scorpion pet insted of the dot it used to have , it got the new ability with disarm. also in cata there this marcro to instantly abandoned pet. for even faster pet swap than dismess pet. but between arena pvp players used to to tame new pet instantly for the next match. since also in cata when u tame pet it levels to ur current level instantly instead of 5 less levels like in wotlk .
I am once again asking for a "history of executes" video. Talking about the original execute ability, major changes to it, passives and talents for other classes that gave them executes, trinkets that had or gave execute effects, that sort of thing.
@@kariminytIf i remember correctly the pet cast bar stayed a few seconds after the pet died. So if you were fast enough, you could immediately rezz your pet.
@@aureliodeprimus8018 ya i guess. i always had it on my 1 button pet macro which heal it. if its dead cast phenix. also if dead cast revive (this was nice in cause u changed to other pets without the phenix ability) and if clicked with shift it dismiss the pet.
I like how much depth they tried to give the hunter pets with its unique talent tree aspects or abilities. It really opened up the hunter toolkit to get an ability that they found useful for damage or utility.
here the thing so Counter Shot did not come out until Siege of Orgrimar patch up to that point we did not have a class wide interput MM has silence shot and BM had intimidation
@@Perry2186 i always play the highest dps since back then i used raid in mythic. but i really hated the melee survival change in legion. not cause its melee. but cause i loved the old survival.
iirc the quillen b-rez was added in MoP, so it was the only one hunter had for a little while. Kind of makes more sense if that powerful of an ability (which funnily enough I never saw anybody use besides myself) was only attached to one specific family to reduce its influence. Weird that they threw it onto a couple more families.
Hunter pets used to be very fun to use, every family used to have something that made them special, now it’s all cunning, ferocity, and tenacity with only a few basic abilities. The downside is we couldn’t switch specs meaning most pet looks were forgotten and useless. The only hunter pet family right now with an ability unique to that family is lesser dragonkin, but the ability only reduces magic damage taken which is not that gr8. I hope they’ll add hunter pet spec switching again
a wasp sting used to dot. very useful on rogues. the quillen rez saved more than a few dungeon groups. rez the healer, use pet to tank while healer rez' the real tank. I did that occasionally to great effect.
I miss the original version of Serenity Dust for moths, it gave a attack power buff while also healing over time which made it overpowered imo during wrath. I wish it stayed the same instead of changing to because blizzard hates uniqueness in the game and only want uniformity.
In ToC during wrath, the bird pets were quite useful, since if you disarmed Gormok before he put his bleed up, it wouldn't apply. Pretty well nullified the mechanic
I miss the Wasp ability that stung a target and made them unable to stealth. I guarded SO many flags from Rogues and Druids in WSG in TBC that I was a force to be reckoned with. Night Elf stationary stealth, pet in the corner, Horde unstealths and grabs a flag, BOOM, wasp on the guy, kick the crap out of him, can't Vanish. Down he goes. I miss that one.
I miss when Hunter pets were all unique in some way besides model, nowadays all pets fall into the same 3 category’s which makes them pretty pointless cuz you can just get one of each type and never need to tame another pet again.
There used to be a passive ability Northrend Frost Worms used to have that gave something like a 5% boost to all ability scores. I don't recall the exact boost and it would have been only OK if it only effected the hunter, but it gave it to your entire party.
Spirit strike for spirit beast was like moon fire. And Hellhoot’s flame strike which did a mage flame strike but also burned them for more dmg if they stood in the aoe.
Phoenix heart could be placed on the pets action bar. Meaning you didn't have to open the book to cast it. Just cast it manually from the pets action bar. I removed growl from my pets list as I always had that off and just had the revive there.
Eternal Guardian was actually added in Mists of Pandaria, and Ancient Hysteria was in the game since Cataclysm. They simply expanded the abilities to other pets in WoD, not as a way to negate buffs, but just as another victim of WoD's destruction of uniqueness and identity.
Blink Strikes was so useful to combat bad pet AI, sad to see it removed. Fighting Sire Denathrius in Castle Nathria effectively turned Beast Mastery Hunters into a melee spec since their pets couldn't attack the adds on other platforms.
I remember when your pet would get a damage buff if you fed it enough, a smiley face would appear over its nameplate. :) Also, I remember Shale spiders had a special buff when they first came out in Cata. It had a 5% attack power/agility 'buff' as well. OH oh, also, spirit beasts monfire abilily from wrath!! How could you forget that one Hiru!! XD
the lick you wound was sort of good in solo game play if your not great geared and a mob is proven to be a bit over your level or you know another mod agrood before you was ready. because you could aggro the mob order the pet to heal up to 100% and then take the aggro back. the channel ability the hunter have more or less requires both the pet and you to not be in combat and stationary. this allows one of you to still fight while the other one keep fighting.
That's why I stopped playing WoW after MoP. They removed resilience and all of the Hunter's pet controls like disarm, silence, stun, and the monkey's blind. They might as well make Hunter a profession like fishing rather than keeping it as a playable class, considering how they keep nerfing it. On the other hand, they continue to allow the Warlock's succubus to use seduction and the Mage's elemental pets to freeze.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I could of sworn druids brez was instant cast before or at least for certain specs, I'm like 99% sure feral predatory swiftness proc used to make brez instant and castable in any form, and I think even now brez is instant for guardian druids.
Meanwhile in SoD: 🐍⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️🪦 It’s like hunters got to tame Godzilla for a while there lmao. Here you are, running around, doing your thing, and some green winged jackass pulls out a .45 and shoots you like three or four times and you’re dead. I once ran into a premade in WSG that was all hunters with the angry green lighting pukers. Theyed just pick a target and the gang of green gunslingers would mow them down in the street. One after another. It was a slaughter. I’ll be honest, I stayed in stealth and just cried as they camped our team at GY. I still hear the “sssss” in my head.
I was playing wow and that Dio rhino Triceratops was attacking the healer. I thought hmm big brain time. I am going to nuke that dino out of existence with my death knight abilities but then he casts reflect and I nuked myself out of existence.
You could put Heart of the Phoenix on the cast bar, and it could be used automatically, in Wrath, without a macro. You also didn't link the videos in the description.
During bc, scorpid poison was broken for about a month with no cap on the stack. I was playing a hunter. On magtheridon had a rolling quarter million scorpid poison dot by the end of fight. It took them a month to patch this. Lol
Oh I forgot about the pet ability "Karen Feeder." The ability to have your pet eat a nosy woman who obstinately injects herself into other people's affairs. That was a great and sorely missed pet ability. 😉👍
17:33 Mentions Raise Ally as a DK res but not the fact it was a battle res with no cast time? It needed runic power sure but you were already building that like crazy anyway so kind of irrelevant.
I just want them to remove the healing reduction skill of all pets that have it, so that way pvpers could choose any pet they want instead of three or two of each family. It kills the hunter and pet fantasy so much.
rats rats we're the rats we stalk at night we prey at night we're the rats i'm the giant rat who makes the rules lets see what kind of trouble we get ourselves into
jerm
*Ster waves finger* That’s wrong
Reflective Armor Plating was incredibly useful for the Feltotem's Fall Mage Tower Challenge in Legion, allowing you to deflect the Fel Burst nuke the boss casted at your pet
I'm glad you covered monkeys and their blind being bugged, but what you didn't cover was the Hunters in arena coming in with 4-5 monkeys, using the blind-stun, abandoning pet mid-fight and summoning another monkey to do it all over again, it was chaos lol.
He's already done a video(s) on the monkey stun.
I fondly remember the hunter in wrath who camped the horde flightpath in Booty Bay with a rhino. As soon as someone landed, they'd get punted onto the docks to their death. Evil, and truly hilarious
haha that sound fun. i always wanted to do it in eye of the storm bg near the flag area.
@@kariminyt That would have been so much fun guarding the flag at the Lumber Mill in Arathi Basin. Try to capture flag? CLONK, off they go!
I can't remember if it was Monkeys, Crabs, or Spiders, but I remember them being so broken in Cataclysm PVP lol. You could have multiple pets and they all had their own individual cd, so you could root with spider/blind with monkey/I think stun with crab and then quickly switch out your pets for another and do it again. I remember people having like 5 monkeys in rated arenas, it was a crazy time to be alive.
was the monkey* ppl even had a macro for instant pet swap. it used to abandoned pet instantly instead of the 2 sec dismiss. ofc u would have to tame a new pets every time after the arena but with cata change that made ur newly tamed pet is same as ur level u didnt need to level the last 5 levels as wotlk forced u to do.
The baby chimp monkey pet that had 5 stuns
No mention of the ability that made me and a lot of others fall in love with spirit beasts!? Spirit strike felt so special even though it was just a moonfire cast by a pet lol
I don't recall how it was in Cata, but in Wrath, Chimera Shot when used on a target afflicted with Scorpid Sting was also a 10sec disarm, which was great against double DPS comps in arena since a Hunter could disarm both simultaneously, then one of them for another few seconds as well.
if the memory serves me. i think they nerfed that in cata to make the disarm have internal cd.
Chimera has cool down so you couldn't disarm both at the same time
@@karolworkowski3261 Yeah, I worded that poorly it seems. You could use Chimera on one, then have the pet disarm the other, having both disarmed at once until the pet one wore off.
chimera shot used to attack a 2nd nearby target as well. so in theory it can be done if both targets had scorpid sting. starting in cata the scorpion pet insted of the dot it used to have , it got the new ability with disarm. also in cata there this marcro to instantly abandoned pet. for even faster pet swap than dismess pet. but between arena pvp players used to to tame new pet instantly for the next match. since also in cata when u tame pet it levels to ur current level instantly instead of 5 less levels like in wotlk .
I am once again asking for a "history of executes" video.
Talking about the original execute ability, major changes to it, passives and talents for other classes that gave them executes, trinkets that had or gave execute effects, that sort of thing.
I'd be keen! Arms warrior is such a mystery to me. Idk if Hiru ever played that spec though. :(
He probably has it on his list and may eventually get to it. He has dozens and dozens of video ideas written down.
You were able to have Heart of the Phoenix on your cast bars
i remmaber both, not able to put it on bar and also able to put it bars. dont remember when. but i dont remember it was autocastable.
@@kariminytIf i remember correctly the pet cast bar stayed a few seconds after the pet died. So if you were fast enough, you could immediately rezz your pet.
@@aureliodeprimus8018 ya i guess. i always had it on my 1 button pet macro which heal it. if its dead cast phenix. also if dead cast revive (this was nice in cause u changed to other pets without the phenix ability) and if clicked with shift it dismiss the pet.
I like how much depth they tried to give the hunter pets with its unique talent tree aspects or abilities. It really opened up the hunter toolkit to get an ability that they found useful for damage or utility.
I've mained hunter since I started but only used moths and spiders. Seeing dust of life make it on the list makes me miss it so much.
here the thing so Counter Shot did not come out until Siege of Orgrimar patch up to that point we did not have a class wide interput MM has silence shot and BM had intimidation
but isnt silence work as like interrupt as well but for all the magic schools?
@@kariminyt yes but I played Sv
@@Perry2186 i always play the highest dps since back then i used raid in mythic. but i really hated the melee survival change in legion. not cause its melee. but cause i loved the old survival.
@kariminyt Yeah that's why I quit in legion
iirc the quillen b-rez was added in MoP, so it was the only one hunter had for a little while. Kind of makes more sense if that powerful of an ability (which funnily enough I never saw anybody use besides myself) was only attached to one specific family to reduce its influence. Weird that they threw it onto a couple more families.
Thanks for making a video from a request I made time ago!
Hunter pets used to be very fun to use, every family used to have something that made them special, now it’s all cunning, ferocity, and tenacity with only a few basic abilities. The downside is we couldn’t switch specs meaning most pet looks were forgotten and useless. The only hunter pet family right now with an ability unique to that family is lesser dragonkin, but the ability only reduces magic damage taken which is not that gr8. I hope they’ll add hunter pet spec switching again
a wasp sting used to dot. very useful on rogues. the quillen rez saved more than a few dungeon groups. rez the healer, use pet to tank while healer rez' the real tank. I did that occasionally to great effect.
not sure which pet or which expansion but i remember one of our pets had a physical dot not magical. i think it was the scorpion in tbc. not sure when
@@kariminyt Scorpions in TBC had a stackable poison DoT. I don't know if that counts as physical, but it was there, and I loved it.
The Wasp sting also used to prevent stealth while the sting debuff was present. It worked wonders on Rogues and Druids in PVP.
All of your channels make my day. Great work as always!
I miss the original version of Serenity Dust for moths, it gave a attack power buff while also healing over time which made it overpowered imo during wrath. I wish it stayed the same instead of changing to because blizzard hates uniqueness in the game and only want uniformity.
In ToC during wrath, the bird pets were quite useful, since if you disarmed Gormok before he put his bleed up, it wouldn't apply. Pretty well nullified the mechanic
I remember using Heart of the Phoenix and Lick Your Wounds for specific solo fights when I’m kiting and need my pet to come back itself
I miss the Wasp ability that stung a target and made them unable to stealth. I guarded SO many flags from Rogues and Druids in WSG in TBC that I was a force to be reckoned with. Night Elf stationary stealth, pet in the corner, Horde unstealths and grabs a flag, BOOM, wasp on the guy, kick the crap out of him, can't Vanish. Down he goes.
I miss that one.
Thank god they removed Jerma from the game, otherwise i would be scared for my life
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I miss when Hunter pets were all unique in some way besides model, nowadays all pets fall into the same 3 category’s which makes them pretty pointless cuz you can just get one of each type and never need to tame another pet again.
There used to be a passive ability Northrend Frost Worms used to have that gave something like a 5% boost to all ability scores. I don't recall the exact boost and it would have been only OK if it only effected the hunter, but it gave it to your entire party.
I would like to humbly request a Warrior video next
So many good abilities. 👍🙂 thanks for the video and keep up the good work.
@hirumaredx did you miss the 5% spell power buff from wind serpants. Same buff as assassin rogues and balance druids?
Spirit strike for spirit beast was like moon fire. And Hellhoot’s flame strike which did a mage flame strike but also burned them for more dmg if they stood in the aoe.
Phoenix heart could be placed on the pets action bar. Meaning you didn't have to open the book to cast it. Just cast it manually from the pets action bar. I removed growl from my pets list as I always had that off and just had the revive there.
Eternal Guardian was actually added in Mists of Pandaria, and Ancient Hysteria was in the game since Cataclysm. They simply expanded the abilities to other pets in WoD, not as a way to negate buffs, but just as another victim of WoD's destruction of uniqueness and identity.
keep 'em coming bro dude
Blink Strikes was so useful to combat bad pet AI, sad to see it removed. Fighting Sire Denathrius in Castle Nathria effectively turned Beast Mastery Hunters into a melee spec since their pets couldn't attack the adds on other platforms.
i changed to unholy from hunter in legion. but ya i hated that fight only for dps reasons. but the fight it self was fun for me. REMORNIA
I remember when your pet would get a damage buff if you fed it enough, a smiley face would appear over its nameplate. :)
Also, I remember Shale spiders had a special buff when they first came out in Cata. It had a 5% attack power/agility 'buff' as well.
OH oh, also, spirit beasts monfire abilily from wrath!! How could you forget that one Hiru!! XD
the lick you wound was sort of good in solo game play if your not great geared and a mob is proven to be a bit over your level or you know another mod agrood before you was ready.
because you could aggro the mob order the pet to heal up to 100% and then take the aggro back.
the channel ability the hunter have more or less requires both the pet and you to not be in combat and stationary.
this allows one of you to still fight while the other one keep fighting.
That's why I stopped playing WoW after MoP. They removed resilience and all of the Hunter's pet controls like disarm, silence, stun, and the monkey's blind. They might as well make Hunter a profession like fishing rather than keeping it as a playable class, considering how they keep nerfing it. On the other hand, they continue to allow the Warlock's succubus to use seduction and the Mage's elemental pets to freeze.
just a note. soulstone has always been useable on other players. tho it wasnt something you could use as a battle rez until legion
Why didn't you mention the common thing of chaining monkey's bad manners in pvp? You mentioned the same process for disarm
the instant abandoned pet macro was insane.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I could of sworn druids brez was instant cast before or at least for certain specs, I'm like 99% sure feral predatory swiftness proc used to make brez instant and castable in any form, and I think even now brez is instant for guardian druids.
Hunters were the hardest class in vanilla and to this day are one of the hardest to play right and maximize their dps.
didnt mention Bullheaded, which was AMAZING during RBGs to break pet out of sap/blind and prevent someone from capping a flag.
i still have my moth, Fuzzy, in a place of honor as my first stabled pet for how many times that battle rez saved my guild.
Hahaha! "Hunters aren't the sharpest quiver in the arrow."
Well played Sir
Meanwhile in SoD:
🐍⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️🪦
It’s like hunters got to tame Godzilla for a while there lmao. Here you are, running around, doing your thing, and some green winged jackass pulls out a .45 and shoots you like three or four times and you’re dead. I once ran into a premade in WSG that was all hunters with the angry green lighting pukers. Theyed just pick a target and the gang of green gunslingers would mow them down in the street. One after another. It was a slaughter.
I’ll be honest, I stayed in stealth and just cried as they camped our team at GY.
I still hear the “sssss” in my head.
I was playing wow and that Dio rhino Triceratops was attacking the healer. I thought hmm big brain time. I am going to nuke that dino out of existence with my death knight abilities but then he casts reflect and I nuked myself out of existence.
@18:44 “Hunters aren’t known to be the sharpest quiver in the arrow.”
At the point, I’m convinced that you do it on purpose 😂
You could put Heart of the Phoenix on the cast bar, and it could be used automatically, in Wrath, without a macro. You also didn't link the videos in the description.
During bc, scorpid poison was broken for about a month with no cap on the stack. I was playing a hunter. On magtheridon had a rolling quarter million scorpid poison dot by the end of fight. It took them a month to patch this. Lol
hiru is my favorite brain rot wow content to consume on my second monitor
Oh I forgot about the pet ability "Karen Feeder." The ability to have your pet eat a nosy woman who obstinately injects herself into other people's affairs. That was a great and sorely missed pet ability. 😉👍
LET US TAME RATS BLIZZARD!
Love the use of the 3dmm rat
I dont play wow but i love the content. Instant click for the thumbnail
I LIVE to prove the "braindead hunter" trope wrong.
for a sec i thought u talking about the fames hunter pvpers briandead. he streams now days but as casual player not hard core any more.
Ravengers ravage stun ability
ya that was in tbc. not sure but i think it got changed in wotlk.
@@kariminyt it changed later it was a stun in wotlk
Death knights had a battle res too didn’t they?
Hunters arent known to be the sharpest quiver in the arrow?
ya i giggled at that as well =D . i guess he didnt do the [Ancient Sinew Wrapped Lamina] quest line /wink
@@kariminyt I put mine in the bank because I didn't know what it was for and forgot about it.
17:33 Mentions Raise Ally as a DK res but not the fact it was a battle res with no cast time? It needed runic power sure but you were already building that like crazy anyway so kind of irrelevant.
I remember the monkey pets bad manners ability and at the time i use to die laughin at it
I just want them to remove the healing reduction skill of all pets that have it, so that way pvpers could choose any pet they want instead of three or two of each family. It kills the hunter and pet fantasy so much.
I wonder with these videos, there are small details that are just wrong. With the wrath disarm saying focus and not the mana cost
all of these abilties are mostly ok this proves how much nerfs hunter keep getting ...
*Rodent*
That rodent on the thumbnail looks like the entire player base during shadowlands 😂
"Hunters aren't known to be the sharpest quiver in the arrow" hmmm
these abilities are mostly what adds to fantasy and to rpg which wow lacks a lot now
you forgot BFA spirit beasts healing for 50% of a healers overall HPS
How about passive abilities? Remember resistances? Remember Snarler? Vanilla mages remember X_X
killing me with the jerma rat
"Hunters aren't known for being the sharpest quiver in the arrow"... lol not sure if intentional or not
Almost certainly not. But that only makes it funnier.
Damn, so sad how Blizz just loves to make everything basic and boring. Pets used to be so unique and now meh
I hate how they removed all the cool pet abilities
Um… where’s Thunderstomp?
do you main hunter? "sharpest quiver in the arrow"
As per usual, PVP always the root cause of ruining the fun and utility of PVE abilities. Always a joke... >.>
Day 6 of asking Hirumaredx why he doesnt stream on youtube anymore
Bring hunter pet talent trees back pls lol
Look what is in the monkey's hand...
hunter pets are pretty much meaningless at this point they made them away to shallow theres no flavor left..
MICHAEL
carr-I-on not karen. fucking "i" in there. but I still sub & watch you on reg.
Bring back hunter b rez 😂
nerf hunter pets
5miinust x puuluup won eesti laul!
estonia sucks
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the amount of mispronounced words in these videos is wild
Hiru has dyslexia and zero interest in proofreading.
rodent
Play at .75 speed thank me later
Um… where’s Thunderstomp?
ya he missed things before wotlk. he also missed ravagers stun which is in tbc.