@@arriitv1716 and then they took that criticism of "we'd like to see our transmog in combat" and threw it in the bin and made evoker/dracthyr who can see ... SOME of their transmog in combat
Faerie fire (feral) was a critical tool for bear tanks. It was the single highest threat gen ability short of a taunt. that didn't share a CD with taunt. it was a very useful tool back when threat was an actual mechanic
Treant form is still in the game, just have to buy the Tome of the Wilds: Treant Form from Lorelae Wintersong in Moonglade or Amurra Thistledew in the Dreamgrove.
I miss thorns. At some point it could be talented so that any enemy that would attack you when you had thorns on you they got rooted. It was great to escape from enemies, specially when leveling. Also the permanent tree of life form for healers, that was introduced in TBC.
Treant form is still in the game, just have to buy the Tome of the Wilds: Treant Form from Lorelae Wintersong in Moonglade or Amurra Thistledew in the Dreamgrove.
@LadyTsunade777 While the actual form was good, the bonus to healing(and mana by proxy) was what made it shine. Doing at level content pre and post removal was noticeable. After that, I just went Main Tank healing on my pally.
@cabrondemente1 My job wasn't to do damage it was to heal bot. As long as there wasn't a ton of movement involved, I would raid heal and throw additional HoT on tank or some rouge who didn't understand how cleave works. The healing difference was noticeable still able to do my job.
I miss the spell teleporting directly to moonglade! I would use it all the time to hang out with druids in Moonglade. They even moved the teleport in spot with the new spell hub.
Faerie fire: it was the ranged pull for cats at the time. Before we could cast moonfire in cat form in order to stay in we could range pull with faerie fire. Very useful for questing, running old raids, dungeons, etc.
as a druid i liked taking mirror image from the mage as mage i hated getting healing touch from the druid, since it wasnt so usefull for me in our progress raid
As a DK, I loved getting the Plague Mushroom from Druids since it had a 30 sec duration, and would apply all of our diseases to all enemies within 8 yds of it every 3 seconds. Was so amazing since the only other ways to apply our diseases were Icy Touch and Plague Strike, both of which were single target.
I just realized you’re my favorite WoW RUclipsr by far and I’ve seen like all your older videos and seamlessly just caught up to today and I gotta say.. you’ve been unbelievably consistent and listenable. Even if I stop playing wow I’ll definitely still be watching these videos. Very good work
I think adaptive swarm needs to be on this list. It was the Necrolords Covenant ability for Druids, and in Dragonflight it got turned into a talent, and it became the "1 button to win" healing ability. Since they took it out with the TWW pre-patch, we've lost what feels like 80% of Resto Druid healers. They don't know how to heal with HoTs. It was just "Adaptive swam to carry" and that was it. With it now gone, nobody plays Resto Druid.
@@TheZashalamel Then you're part of the 20% that stuck around. lol. I played my Resto Druid for years before Adaptive Swarm was a thing, and I'm perfectly fine playing without it. Just like you.
Natures grasp- automatically routes if ur hit Thorns-(I know it’s in pvp) Leader of the pack-(again pvp but it’s different) Moonkin Aura Challenging roar-AoE taunt Mangle (cat)-was something else it hit Healing touch- our only direct heal vs hot Abolish poison-was amazing so u wouldn’t have to keep removing poison Actual tree form-amplified healing and poly protection Insect swarm Power shifting- busted in pvp Just a few off the dome. Still remember as a feral using symbiosis with an enhance sham gave you feral spirits it was amazing.
in TBC bear lacerate was great. small bleeds even when stacked, but huge threat generation. we used to joke that 2 lacerates was as good as 3 sunders. ;)
Claws of Shirvallah wouldve been a cool visual change for the Druid of the Claw hero spec. Maybe coulda reworked it to be more of a hybrid between cat and bear giving a mix of both without being full benefits of course for an actual functional ability.
Really want the claws of shirvalla look back! It was a lot of fun running around as an angry cat dude! Like, could we get a glyph/secret saberon form quest from the traders outpost in spires of arak?
I didn't play druid at the time, so i might remember incorrectly, but i think you also forgot to mention that since Genisis consumes the rejuvs and gives the genisis heal instead, you could still stack rejuv on top, which was basically just twice as much healing, which made it awesome.
3:19 *_Faire Fire:_* ...man, after tanking for so long as *_Prot Warrior_* ... *_Faire Fire_* was literally a "breathe of fresh air" for being able to easily pull multiple groups at the same time... VERSUS, on *_Warrior,_* having to wait for my Ranged Weapon to both "cast" & "travel" to the target. *_Faire Fire_* was an instant cast that instantly applied: Very useful for pulling as a Tank !!!
Symbiosis was so fun, I remember having a guide bookmarked that had all of the class spec combos listed lol. MoP was so fun man, never understood the kung fu panda hate
At the end of MoP every healer was able to top a whole raid and fights for healers was like watching those visual sound effects go up and down, every minute there was a mechanic to make everyone go to 10% hp, and CD rotation was extremelly important. I miss Bloom and Symbiosis.
I liked Faerie Fire. It's one of those abilities that may be very niche, but they still add to class fantasy. If it was such an issue for PvP, it could've made more sense to increase it's cooldown, or decrease its duration on players. Miss it.
OG Balance Insect Swarm. Got removed, then replaced by a shitty Moonfire pallete swap. Then, when they added it back, Balance was the ONLY SPEC that didn't have access to it.
The funny thing...the reasons they gave for removing symbiosis...applied EXACTLY to the Shadowlands covenants. It's crazy that they were so tone deaf to not only repeat a mistake but then double down on it.
Both farie fire and Displacer Beast take their names from Dungeons and Dragons, interestingly the Displacer beast is trademarked by Hasbro and should have resulted in a lawsuit but I'm guessing that the actiblizzard being the bigger company meant there wasn't one.
Faerie Fire was our bow and arrow. Feral tank from Vanilla to Wrath myself. Yes, you could drop form for Moonfire, engineering bomb, etc, but when chain pulling a dungeon/raid or picking up a pat it did wonders. Wasn't a hassle or annoying. 😂 Hurricane was our AOE! We had no other AOE other than Bear Swipe in Vanilla and BC. Was Hurricane good? No but it was always fun to cast or in fights that used similar animations to scare fellow raiders. Feral is Feral. Feral is bear and cat. And yes, Symbosis was overpowered. As a mostly classic player I'll say the times we were OP were rare early on so we as long-time druid players thoroughly enjoyed the times people said we were too overpowered. 😂😂😂
Druid Mana pool was fine with dragonflight. I play rest of druid, rest of shaman, mist Weaver monk and I also have a level 70 preservation of ocher. The only class I ever had mana issues with was Russell. Shannon. Once I get my priest and holy paladin up to level 80 and start healing I'll let you know what they are like.
The first one was for ALL specs that used mana, as mop removed int giving mana, which you didn't even mention when talking about it. They wanted everyone to have the same amount of mana regardless of their gear. The passive had literally nothing to do with.. basically anything you said at all in the slightest and was literally JUST as a way to make it so specs that didn't use mana, like ret/prot pallis, or cat/bear druids had a smaller mana pool so they couldn't spam heals, but then make sure specs that DID, like resto/boomy druid, or resto/ele sham, had a larger mana pool as prior to mop, that's just how it would have worked with having all int gear. Agi/str users would have lower mana because they wore no int gear and specs that did would have a higher mana pool. It had nothing to do with making it "easier to heal" or anything. The reason it was removed was because they just have a set amount of mana that everyone has now, regardless of their spec. If I am a ret palli and switch to holy, my mana bar max stays the same, basically they increased the amount of mana non int users have to match the amount that int users have. But now change the mana cost of stuff if you are not in an int using spec. So if I cast flash of light as ret it will take 10% of my mana but in holy it will take like 2.2% or something. And with this change even int users have had their mana cost of healing spells increased. If I switch to shadow on my priest, flash heal cost 10% instead of 2% when in holy or disc. I'm hoping you didn't cut anything FOR that first ability since it was not druid exclusive, but used for ALL int specs in mop, just named something different for each spec. Again, to replace int giving mana which is how int has worked since, well, since WC3 really.
Every single druid player here knew exactly what 1 and 2 would be long before we even got that far in the video. The truth is, if you have two such beloved abilities they should have never been removed.
I wish symbiosis came back but make it so the ability given to the non Druid is based on their role+class (as example all mage specs would get the same Druid ability, paladins would get a different ability for each of their specs, etc) while the Druid side works like the original symbiosis but have the ability they gain have a longer cooldown (or given a short cooldown if original doesn’t have one). Heck they could even nerf what other classes get from Druid in the same way so it’s like yes the Druid is sharing abilities with a partner but both are getting less effective versions of the others
I already know Symbiosis is going to be on this list without watching it all and other than the fact that it was probably a nightmare to balance and that's the main reason it was removed I bet... I propose another reason. In Throne of Thunder, my friends and I would go in on our two druids and two priests. Symbiosis gave druids Lifegrip. We'd be normal until the Turtle boss. We would space out and leave two people on the cliff before the boss and as soon as the tank would go in, we would chain our grips together to pull the tank all the way back up to the cliff drop, pulling them a second time on the cliff to place them at the ledge. This would wipe the raid or reset the boss. It was kind of 50/50. This is only one of the degenerate tactics that could be done with this spell. I'm sad it's gone, but it's probably for the best.
I've played a Balance Druid since MoP and no spell has ever been as busted as Displacer Beast imo. Being able to blink through raid mechanics was way too powerful for a class that already had immense utility.
proper rng boomkin from wrath, bear cat from wrath, tree healer from wrath....actually, anything after that was just a poor shadow of what druids used to be.
As a die-hard druid, since vanilla, how long ago was it that they added and took away claws of Shirvallah? To this VERY day I'm still PISSED OFF beyond sanity about it, and I'm just a bear druid!
Ravenous frenzy not making this list is wild the spell made druids some of the most powerful beings ever for like 2 tiers even though I loved kindred spirits so much rav needed to be top 5
"by this time talent trees were far too inflated" boooooooooo removing the trees was one of the worst decisions in WoWs history and turned the game into a never ending treadmill of borrowed power.
Blizzard keeps struggling every new expansion with class fantasy and it's like yeah wonder why, maybe it's all the unique and interesting skills you keep removing. After they announced Hero talents, I was so excited to see some new stuff available with all the classes but like maybe two of the hero talents out all of them have anything fun (DK mounted combat being an example)
It will always baffle me that balance... Fuck it I am gonna say nonhealer druids, even today it baffles me that nonhealer druids never existed before the Dungeon finder. Actually I do not recall druids when I played classic, maybe one but they were playing a healer. A real shame as to get through dungeons, you have to conform to what others want you to be. And before anyone ask, dual specing can be a pain in the ass, even if you are swapping between the two.
It's nice to see this channel is still of the same (low) quality. So much bad information in this video. Was this written by AI? Absolutely zero research. -Ashamnaes Frenzy still exists, it was just renamed to Feral Frenzy. It works almost exactly the same. -Essence of G'hanir still exists in a form. It was merged with Flourish after legion. -Moonfire did not replace Faerie Fire in any way. FF was a massive threat generator that did some damage. Moonfire generates resources and does lots of damage, cleaves and has other interactions with your abilities. -Genesis still exists in a form, although it's only single target. It's called "Invigorate". -Hurricane shouldn't be on this list, it was literally never good. It was just Blizzard or Rain Of Fire, and nobody cared when it got removed. -Wild Mushroom still exists for balance. It explodes after one second instead of having to detonate it yourself, but otherwise it's functionally the same. Changed or iterated on is not the same as removed.... My god this video is a mess.
Symbiosis actually didn’t create a world where they had to memorize all these new spells. It created a world where meta comps excluded classes where their symbiosis wasn’t the absolute top tier. Bad design.
Didn't they re-add symbiosis for Shadowlands Kyrian Covenant? And I think the spell is still learned of you have a druid in this Covenenat and are in Shadowlands zones. I never had a chance to try it though, cause I never had anyone in group while leveling in Shadowlands zones...
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Kind of wish they made the werecat form from WoD an artifact skin in Legion.
SAME. It was cool!
it should've been the mage tower skin for it
They just need to give us some more options for all the forms. 1000s of transmogs for everyone else but here have a handful for druid 😂😂😊
@@arriitv1716 and then they took that criticism of "we'd like to see our transmog in combat" and threw it in the bin and made evoker/dracthyr who can see ... SOME of their transmog in combat
Symbiosis was almost as cool as DKs dark simulacrum
If Symbiosis isn’t the first place I dunno what this list is. It was stupidly broken but awesome
I miss bone shield on my druid :/
Faerie fire (feral) was a critical tool for bear tanks. It was the single highest threat gen ability short of a taunt. that didn't share a CD with taunt.
it was a very useful tool back when threat was an actual mechanic
indeed
I miss being able to dance as a tree while casting. That was peak WotLK for me. Resto druid tree dancing.
Treant form is still in the game, just have to buy the Tome of the Wilds: Treant Form from Lorelae Wintersong in Moonglade or Amurra Thistledew in the Dreamgrove.
@@LadyTsunade777 yeah sure give it other 2 expansions max. And Restro druid would only be playable in cat form.
I miss thorns. At some point it could be talented so that any enemy that would attack you when you had thorns on you they got rooted. It was great to escape from enemies, specially when leveling. Also the permanent tree of life form for healers, that was introduced in TBC.
Cata thorns were so overtuned that I had a rogue open up on me amd killed itself off of my thorns alone. I can still remember cackling maniacly
@@christianstanley4819 Oh those days were hilarious at the start oft the expansion when nobody knew just how deadly thorns was.
Thorns is still in wow
Thorns exists still.... it's a pvp talent.
Rip claws if Shirvallah. While everyone was going blood claws I rocked by snow leopard worgen.
I totally forgot that was a thing because I don't remember anyone ever using it...
@@Calekoflight Probably because it was never competitively viable in PVE compared to Bloodtalons. It was only valued in PVP.
@@Calekoflight it was the only way to play in pvp lmao, first time I quit my feral since vanilla cause of that dogshit talent. Ugly ass form
It was my favorite talent of all time. Every expansion i hope it returns.
Man I loved this
Resto Tree form. Felt like a badass healing as a tree. Was very sad when it got removed. Druid healing hasnt felt good since.
Treant form is still in the game, just have to buy the Tome of the Wilds: Treant Form from Lorelae Wintersong in Moonglade or Amurra Thistledew in the Dreamgrove.
@LadyTsunade777 While the actual form was good, the bonus to healing(and mana by proxy) was what made it shine. Doing at level content pre and post removal was noticeable. After that, I just went Main Tank healing on my pally.
And the resistance to being polymorphed while an original treant as well.
It was terrible, you were locked into healing while now you can multi-task.
@cabrondemente1 My job wasn't to do damage it was to heal bot. As long as there wasn't a ton of movement involved, I would raid heal and throw additional HoT on tank or some rouge who didn't understand how cleave works. The healing difference was noticeable still able to do my job.
Symbiosis, my beloved ❤❤❤
Such a unique spell. Miss it so much. Was so epic in arenas.
#1 Symbiosis
It was too fun.
I miss the spell teleporting directly to moonglade! I would use it all the time to hang out with druids in Moonglade. They even moved the teleport in spot with the new spell hub.
There's a Moonglade portal in the Dreamway though...
@@LadyTsunade777 That is what referring as the hub. It is not the same as the old spot was right inside the druid village.
If you just never do legion content, you still have it.
Faerie fire: it was the ranged pull for cats at the time. Before we could cast moonfire in cat form in order to stay in we could range pull with faerie fire. Very useful for questing, running old raids, dungeons, etc.
Symbiosis was the peak of being a druid, its been downhill since. I think about Symbiosis at least once a week if not more. We almost had it all.
Whoever thought of it was a genius. Such a unique spell.
Knew #1 before I clicked. Absolutely goated, and SHOULD make a return with more balanced abilities.
Fact Saberon wasn't added to the barber shop is a question we may never get an answer to
I loved Claws of Shirvallah back in WoD. I still mourn its removal.
Astral Storm was a really cool visual change to Hurricane. Really wish it was a glyph or something druids could pick up in retail.
as a druid i liked taking mirror image from the mage
as mage i hated getting healing touch from the druid, since it wasnt so usefull for me in our progress raid
As a DK, I loved getting the Plague Mushroom from Druids since it had a 30 sec duration, and would apply all of our diseases to all enemies within 8 yds of it every 3 seconds.
Was so amazing since the only other ways to apply our diseases were Icy Touch and Plague Strike, both of which were single target.
I kept hoping the removal of Claws of Shirvallah meant we were getting playable saberon, but alas.
I just realized you’re my favorite WoW RUclipsr by far and I’ve seen like all your older videos and seamlessly just caught up to today and I gotta say.. you’ve been unbelievably consistent and listenable. Even if I stop playing wow I’ll definitely still be watching these videos. Very good work
I think adaptive swarm needs to be on this list. It was the Necrolords Covenant ability for Druids, and in Dragonflight it got turned into a talent, and it became the "1 button to win" healing ability. Since they took it out with the TWW pre-patch, we've lost what feels like 80% of Resto Druid healers. They don't know how to heal with HoTs. It was just "Adaptive swam to carry" and that was it. With it now gone, nobody plays Resto Druid.
Speak for yourself i still love my tree
@@TheZashalamel Then you're part of the 20% that stuck around. lol. I played my Resto Druid for years before Adaptive Swarm was a thing, and I'm perfectly fine playing without it. Just like you.
I healed high keystones without adaptive swarm talented, I dont think I've ever used it
Blizzard’s ability to just completely f*ck over a class in a different way every expansion will never cease to amaze me.
No lies told. That was one of the reasons why I dropped the game. They just couldn't stop screwing things up.
Saberon was Peak Cat Roleplaying
I hope u do this kind of video with every class,
its fun to watch because I did not know half of these abilities
Haven't watched the video, pasued it at 0:01, I'm making a prediction that Synthesis is #1
I misspelled the ability name, still predicted it though.
This!
@@soggybiscuit4208 Synthesis is not a misspelling of Symbiosis, they are 2 totally different words😂😂😂 Simbiosis would be a misspelling of Symbiosis
you read my mind
Aight my fault gang, I confused the name of the ability with another.
Hiru: Sadly, Claws of Shirvallah was removed in Legion. Editor: Thankfully 👁👄👁
3:02 Did anyone else notice he said Faerie fire "decreases the target of the armor" instead of the other way around ? 🤔😂
I miss symbiosis mainly for rejuvenation as a warlock. Personally flavor-wise, i miss insect swarm, wish it hadn’t been replaced by sunfire.
Natures grasp- automatically routes if ur hit
Thorns-(I know it’s in pvp)
Leader of the pack-(again pvp but it’s different)
Moonkin Aura
Challenging roar-AoE taunt
Mangle (cat)-was something else it hit
Healing touch- our only direct heal vs hot
Abolish poison-was amazing so u wouldn’t have to keep removing poison
Actual tree form-amplified healing and poly protection
Insect swarm
Power shifting- busted in pvp
Just a few off the dome. Still remember as a feral using symbiosis with an enhance sham gave you feral spirits it was amazing.
Faerie fire also increased hit chance for melee in tbc talent tree. It was very useful
in TBC bear lacerate was great. small bleeds even when stacked, but huge threat generation. we used to joke that 2 lacerates was as good as 3 sunders. ;)
Claws of Shirvallah wouldve been a cool visual change for the Druid of the Claw hero spec. Maybe coulda reworked it to be more of a hybrid between cat and bear giving a mix of both without being full benefits of course for an actual functional ability.
Really want the claws of shirvalla look back! It was a lot of fun running around as an angry cat dude! Like, could we get a glyph/secret saberon form quest from the traders outpost in spires of arak?
I didn't play druid at the time, so i might remember incorrectly, but i think you also forgot to mention that since Genisis consumes the rejuvs and gives the genisis heal instead, you could still stack rejuv on top, which was basically just twice as much healing, which made it awesome.
The Druid’s cat form could have been a new playable race either the Horde or Alliance.
3:19 *_Faire Fire:_* ...man, after tanking for so long as *_Prot Warrior_* ... *_Faire Fire_* was literally a "breathe of fresh air" for being able to easily pull multiple groups at the same time... VERSUS, on *_Warrior,_* having to wait for my Ranged Weapon to both "cast" & "travel" to the target. *_Faire Fire_* was an instant cast that instantly applied: Very useful for pulling as a Tank !!!
Loved the visual effects of Hurricane, they should reinstate it for Druids or Shamans in some form
Dream of Cenarius was my favorite. You could literally heal entire raids with the ability. I was healing heroic raids by myself with it lol.
Symbiosis was so fun, I remember having a guide bookmarked that had all of the class spec combos listed lol. MoP was so fun man, never understood the kung fu panda hate
At the end of MoP every healer was able to top a whole raid and fights for healers was like watching those visual sound effects go up and down, every minute there was a mechanic to make everyone go to 10% hp, and CD rotation was extremelly important. I miss Bloom and Symbiosis.
I liked Faerie Fire. It's one of those abilities that may be very niche, but they still add to class fantasy. If it was such an issue for PvP, it could've made more sense to increase it's cooldown, or decrease its duration on players. Miss it.
OG Balance Insect Swarm.
Got removed, then replaced by a shitty Moonfire pallete swap. Then, when they added it back, Balance was the ONLY SPEC that didn't have access to it.
I'll never get tired of hearing about symbiosis
Early WoD ganking people in Ashran with that dope Claws form was some peak gaming for me in WoW.
The funny thing...the reasons they gave for removing symbiosis...applied EXACTLY to the Shadowlands covenants. It's crazy that they were so tone deaf to not only repeat a mistake but then double down on it.
Both farie fire and Displacer Beast take their names from Dungeons and Dragons, interestingly the Displacer beast is trademarked by Hasbro and should have resulted in a lawsuit but I'm guessing that the actiblizzard being the bigger company meant there wasn't one.
Faerie Fire was our bow and arrow. Feral tank from Vanilla to Wrath myself. Yes, you could drop form for Moonfire, engineering bomb, etc, but when chain pulling a dungeon/raid or picking up a pat it did wonders. Wasn't a hassle or annoying. 😂
Hurricane was our AOE! We had no other AOE other than Bear Swipe in Vanilla and BC. Was Hurricane good? No but it was always fun to cast or in fights that used similar animations to scare fellow raiders.
Feral is Feral. Feral is bear and cat. And yes, Symbosis was overpowered. As a mostly classic player I'll say the times we were OP were rare early on so we as long-time druid players thoroughly enjoyed the times people said we were too overpowered. 😂😂😂
Been so far away from wow that I didnt know hurricane was removed already.... lol
as someone who started in MOP, I am so sad I was such a noob that I only figured out what Symbiosis did nearing the end of the expansion 😭
Druid Mana pool was fine with dragonflight. I play rest of druid, rest of shaman, mist Weaver monk and I also have a level 70 preservation of ocher. The only class I ever had mana issues with was Russell. Shannon. Once I get my priest and holy paladin up to level 80 and start healing I'll let you know what they are like.
Legion bear artifact ability was the best combined with other size buffs, it felt like you where a raid boss fighting another raid boss.
RIP Thorns and Thorns type spells.
The first one was for ALL specs that used mana, as mop removed int giving mana, which you didn't even mention when talking about it. They wanted everyone to have the same amount of mana regardless of their gear. The passive had literally nothing to do with.. basically anything you said at all in the slightest and was literally JUST as a way to make it so specs that didn't use mana, like ret/prot pallis, or cat/bear druids had a smaller mana pool so they couldn't spam heals, but then make sure specs that DID, like resto/boomy druid, or resto/ele sham, had a larger mana pool as prior to mop, that's just how it would have worked with having all int gear. Agi/str users would have lower mana because they wore no int gear and specs that did would have a higher mana pool. It had nothing to do with making it "easier to heal" or anything.
The reason it was removed was because they just have a set amount of mana that everyone has now, regardless of their spec. If I am a ret palli and switch to holy, my mana bar max stays the same, basically they increased the amount of mana non int users have to match the amount that int users have. But now change the mana cost of stuff if you are not in an int using spec. So if I cast flash of light as ret it will take 10% of my mana but in holy it will take like 2.2% or something. And with this change even int users have had their mana cost of healing spells increased. If I switch to shadow on my priest, flash heal cost 10% instead of 2% when in holy or disc.
I'm hoping you didn't cut anything FOR that first ability since it was not druid exclusive, but used for ALL int specs in mop, just named something different for each spec. Again, to replace int giving mana which is how int has worked since, well, since WC3 really.
Claws of shirvalla looked so sick it made me play a druid alt and after they took it away I have refused to touch the class until we get it back
i miss faerie fire so much. i made so many rogues cry with that thing
Every single druid player here knew exactly what 1 and 2 would be long before we even got that far in the video. The truth is, if you have two such beloved abilities they should have never been removed.
MoP seems to have given druids a ton of stuff.
Kinda made Arena matches at the time so boring when resto druids forever healed
Symbiosis is and always will be one of the best and most fun and interesting abilities ever seen in WoW.
I wish symbiosis came back but make it so the ability given to the non Druid is based on their role+class (as example all mage specs would get the same Druid ability, paladins would get a different ability for each of their specs, etc) while the Druid side works like the original symbiosis but have the ability they gain have a longer cooldown (or given a short cooldown if original doesn’t have one). Heck they could even nerf what other classes get from Druid in the same way so it’s like yes the Druid is sharing abilities with a partner but both are getting less effective versions of the others
With TWW I already miss "Protector of the Pack"
The mana pool thing was also put in as Intellect didnt give mana anymore
Wild mushrooms was in Dragonflight, I had it on my boomkin
I already know Symbiosis is going to be on this list without watching it all and other than the fact that it was probably a nightmare to balance and that's the main reason it was removed I bet... I propose another reason.
In Throne of Thunder, my friends and I would go in on our two druids and two priests. Symbiosis gave druids Lifegrip. We'd be normal until the Turtle boss. We would space out and leave two people on the cliff before the boss and as soon as the tank would go in, we would chain our grips together to pull the tank all the way back up to the cliff drop, pulling them a second time on the cliff to place them at the ledge. This would wipe the raid or reset the boss. It was kind of 50/50.
This is only one of the degenerate tactics that could be done with this spell. I'm sad it's gone, but it's probably for the best.
Ashamane Frenzy is just like feral frenzy we have now.
I've played a Balance Druid since MoP and no spell has ever been as busted as Displacer Beast imo. Being able to blink through raid mechanics was way too powerful for a class that already had immense utility.
I miss the Claws of Shirvallah so much, I've always hated that they just tossed the idea in the trash :/
Symbiosis was the coolest ability to ever enter the game. I was always sad when I didn't get grouped with a mage.
Let’s be honest, we all knew Symbiosis was going to be #1 😂😂😂
We really didn’t appreciate how OP we were in the MOP-legion days
I feel like faerie fire and displacer beast haven't come back in part to those names being part of D&Ds IP
proper rng boomkin from wrath, bear cat from wrath, tree healer from wrath....actually, anything after that was just a poor shadow of what druids used to be.
As a die-hard druid, since vanilla, how long ago was it that they added and took away claws of Shirvallah? To this VERY day I'm still PISSED OFF beyond sanity about it, and I'm just a bear druid!
God i want them to bring back both claws of shirvallah and gladiator stance
Ravenous frenzy not making this list is wild the spell made druids some of the most powerful beings ever for like 2 tiers even though I loved kindred spirits so much rav needed to be top 5
"by this time talent trees were far too inflated" boooooooooo removing the trees was one of the worst decisions in WoWs history and turned the game into a never ending treadmill of borrowed power.
Claws of Shirvallah my beloved
Claws were only reason I made a Troll Druid... Q_Q WIsh it returns... If nothing else as option to unlock like other form changes.
Blizzard keeps struggling every new expansion with class fantasy and it's like yeah wonder why, maybe it's all the unique and interesting skills you keep removing. After they announced Hero talents, I was so excited to see some new stuff available with all the classes but like maybe two of the hero talents out all of them have anything fun (DK mounted combat being an example)
So unfair that guardian druid get to have a werebear form but feral druids didn't keep the werecat form...
I miss the big heal that the druid had in vanilla wow
I wish claws of shirvallah was a cat form still not the talent itself but as a customizable cat form in the barber shop :(
Claws of shirvallah man do i miss that one same with hurricane
Ah I do miss Symbiosis
Voice-over: sadly it was removed in legion.
Text: thankfully it was removed in legion.
It will always baffle me that balance... Fuck it I am gonna say nonhealer druids, even today it baffles me that nonhealer druids never existed before the Dungeon finder. Actually I do not recall druids when I played classic, maybe one but they were playing a healer.
A real shame as to get through dungeons, you have to conform to what others want you to be.
And before anyone ask, dual specing can be a pain in the ass, even if you are swapping between the two.
You could Faerie FIRE AND SUNDER ARMOR FAERIE FIRE WAS INVALUABLE
there was no hurricane in vanilla
It's nice to see this channel is still of the same (low) quality. So much bad information in this video. Was this written by AI? Absolutely zero research.
-Ashamnaes Frenzy still exists, it was just renamed to Feral Frenzy. It works almost exactly the same.
-Essence of G'hanir still exists in a form. It was merged with Flourish after legion.
-Moonfire did not replace Faerie Fire in any way. FF was a massive threat generator that did some damage. Moonfire generates resources and does lots of damage, cleaves and has other interactions with your abilities.
-Genesis still exists in a form, although it's only single target. It's called "Invigorate".
-Hurricane shouldn't be on this list, it was literally never good. It was just Blizzard or Rain Of Fire, and nobody cared when it got removed.
-Wild Mushroom still exists for balance. It explodes after one second instead of having to detonate it yourself, but otherwise it's functionally the same.
Changed or iterated on is not the same as removed....
My god this video is a mess.
Symbiosis actually didn’t create a world where they had to memorize all these new spells. It created a world where meta comps excluded classes where their symbiosis wasn’t the absolute top tier.
Bad design.
Fun is being had! Blizz incoming nerf/removal
its a crime to remove claw of shirvallah
Didn't they re-add symbiosis for Shadowlands Kyrian Covenant? And I think the spell is still learned of you have a druid in this Covenenat and are in Shadowlands zones.
I never had a chance to try it though, cause I never had anyone in group while leveling in Shadowlands zones...
Wasn't the fire cat added before the sabre form for druids?
God those talent trees sucked ass, so happy with what they did in dragonflight
My druid in classic stealthed an escort quest in dustwallow marsh using soothe beast. Can't do that anymore :(
I'm on the bring back symbiosis bandwagon.
I loved both versions of displacer beast
Loved Faerie Fire
I want my symbiosis back... my wife and I were balance and frost mage so i got mirror image she got healing touch very useful
Plz change you mic my friend, I’m getting whistle sound all video
I hope they make the werecat forms available in the barber shop one day 🙏