The Cyberpunk tests were done on game version 1.63 without the use of Ray Reconstruction, but GamersNexus only measured an 8% increase in performance. 14 × 1.08 = 15.12fps, so add a single fps to my numbers if you're considering running a game at under 20fps.
Man. Hands down your video helped me decide whether i should upgrade to this gpu or not. Not a single tech youtuber compared this LP 4060 with an actual full fledged gpu. It really helped me
WOAH I couldn't really make out the size from the thumbnail but now you holding it in your hand😳 that thing is tiny, so great to see a small graphics card again and it definitely performs a lot better than my GTX 1070
Really enjoyed the video, and subbed! Yes, please test this on a 3.0 motherboard. Pretty much every SFF workstation machine available will be 3.0, so this info would be very useful.
If they make this exact PCB size with the following changes I'm sold; - AD106 with 4608 Cuda cores minimum (mobile "4070", actually a binned 4060ti) - 2x92mm heatsink option using standard fans with standard headers (remains within PCI bracket height) - shift the power connector to the "bottom" of the card (i.e. same orientation, same side, but towards the motherboard) I don't plan to build an SFF system, but I like small cards, good design, and I'm just sick of the trends towards ever bigger GPUs. I'd rather have an under-stressed mid-tier card which is inaudible, runs cool, and is powerful enough to give a good experience. That GPU sag is even a problem is just silly. Reinforced slots are silly. Having to dismount a GPU for transport is silly. Cases getting fatter to accommodate taller cards and their silly sleeved cables is silly. Less is more.
That would be a fantastic card if one of the AIBs would step up to make it. I settled for an Asus Dual in my quest for Ada Lovelace in a reasonable size. Didn't need *actual* low-profile so it's fine, but it was disappointing to see how bad the situation was when I was shopping around. Video cards are so laughably oversized these days and it's largely (no pun intended) for no good reason at all. Just excess for the sake of excess. Even my Asus Dual/two-fan cooler keeps the AD106 chip at barely over 70C while sustained max load.
VERY happy to see it's not noisy! I had the same Zotac 1650 LP in my system and it would scream like a banshee when playing games (but to be fair rarely touched past 78C either). I then upgraded to the RTX A2000 which never made a peep, so that really spoiled me. As a result I was hesitant to upgrade again to this, but the much higher quality heatsink + additional fan seem to have been worth it.
This card is absolutely amazing. Okay, so you have to use Frame Generation and DLSS in some titles, but while playing the difference is nearly zero and you'll soon be enjoying an amazing 5L PC doing what your old 35L PC used to do. Smaller, more efficient, quieter... Oh amazing.
1080p monitors are my go-to. My last 1080p monitor broke down and I went out to buy another one. Works fine for all games. I don't see the need for 1440p at the moment.
I have this card. Before that RTX A2000. in big sence, yes RTX 4060 is bad card. Exspensive, low Vram and slow compared to the rest of 4000 series. I know, i have a RTX 4090 as well. But lets take one step back and look at this card from another angel. Only from the perpective of low profile cards. RTX 4060 i signigficantly faster than RX 6400/GTX 1650 and has twice the Vram aviable. RTX 4060 is even almost twice as fast as RTX A2000 (based on A2000 is pretty much RTX 3050 performance) and if it´s the 6 GB vram A2000. RTX 4060 still has 2 GB vram more and cheaper and faster than a new RTX A200 and way cheaper that RTX 4000 SFF. In that perpective RTX 4060 low profile is not so bad in that picture. I am not saying it´s a good card in the whole picture. But for low profile choise i don´t see it as bad at least.
If only the RTX 4000 ada was cheaper. I believe it performs similarly to the 4060 lp in scenarios where there isn't a significant Vram bottleneck. The major advantage is that while doing so, it comes in standard lp specs and draws less than 75 watts (meaning no power cable).
The silverstone ML06E (7 liters) case is compatible with SFX psu and low profile gpu up to 175mm. The issue with this gpu is being longer than others LP gpu at185mm. Dont think it would even make sense to build a case based on a gpu. There are several cases you can get with this combination (HDplex + LP), (FLex + LP). Honestly this gpu only makes sense in certain scenarios.
So... it's a pretty rubbish skew that may have only wound up in a LP form factor because the power draw makes that possible and otherwise there would have been an awful lot of unsold silicon at the outrageous price. Got it. I bought a new LP 1650GTX just before prices went really crazy and I still think I was robbed - never again! Thankfully I run emulators and play games from the days when new titles weren't unplayably buggy and actually fun. So I'll be getting my money's worth from the 1650 for a long time to come.
Honestly indie games from small teams are vastly more fun than AAA nowadays, and most of them run great on the Steam Deck, so I think your 1650 will do you just fine.
1:08 Such a silly little card🤭, three tiny fans instead of 2 that are as wide as the IO bracket and an absolutely overkill 8 Pin PCIe. Many 4070s also only have a single 8 pin, although it seems that the 6 pin PCIe has died out because I can't find any RTX 40 or RX 7000 card with a 6 pin PCIe, I suppose it's cheaper to just stock one connector instead of two these 8 pins might be rated for 150W but extreme overclockers draw 300+ watts from one without any issues, der8auer has mentioned this at this year's computex, these connectors are extremely stout, makes the 12VHPWR even more embarrassing
Honestly say what you want about the 40 series but the fact they made a low profile 4060 is amazing. I think its awesome. Edit. I agree about starfield it seems like no matter the settings its weird and the way the game looks you would think for it to run better. Also this new update has made my fps lower but more consistent. Went from 60 to 90 indoors to 45 to 55. And 35 to 45 outside. Was getting 45 to 60 outdoors. But no stuttering.... a weird game for sure.
Unfortunately, the RTX 4060 lp won't work for everyone due to the requirement for a power connector, the nonstandard length, and the very limiting 8gbs of Vram which is already a problem with titles today and will only get worse as time goes on. If it wasn't 1000 dollars more expensive than an already badly priced card, the RTX 4000 ada would be the best card in all metrics except raw performance at stock (although hardware modding could change that).
Yeah the power connector is such an annoyance. I actually swapped the PSU in my Xbox PC because the old one didn't have an 8 pin. Same with the power supplies in Dell SFF PCs.
@TotallySearch The rtx 4000 sff also draws less than a third of the power while performing in a similar ballpark to the 6800xt and is a workstation card designed for continuous use under max load. As far as the silicon itself is concerned, the rtx 4000 sff is basically magic. However, efficiency and stability aren't worth the extreme difference in the price between the two for most use cases. It's also not a complete wipeout, but given the price, it can not be justified if gaming is what you're using it for.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 if you have to go low end . Go with nvidia . Dlss. If I have to live with one gpu for 5 years. I would much rather be stuck with rtx 4060 than Rx 7600 . Dlss can still make 540p look decent. Meanwhile 540p is a nope zone for fsr.
It's crazy, I want to build a HTPC and therefore need a low profile card. The 4060 is crap and this card especially is very expensive, but it is the only f****** low profile card in the whole world that can be used for gaming. There is not a single competitor to this card. I hate it, but it seems I have to buy it if I want to build this small form factor PC. I may wait a bit longer, but until now I didn't hear of any card in development that can compete with the 4060 low profile. It's so weird that no other company seems to care about it and Gigabyte can charge whatever money they want for this one.
The 4060 low profile kinda missed it's mark to sell this to the Dell SFF droids (not worth putting a gpu in those ticking limited bios/hardware failures if you ask me) for having a pin connector on it. You can still put it in a SFF but you need to use fire hazard adapters, I definitely wouldn't suggest it. But it's far from the worst gpu of decade, the 1630 is still horrible. $130 for a 2022 GPU that can't compete with the 1650 and it's huge too.
The card's power draw is so low, there is no way it gets a heat problem. It's a standard 8-pin you find on every psu that is newer than 10 years or so. This card's power consumption and therefore heat might be comparable to the GTX 1060. It's not an 12VHPWR burn burn burn cable.^^
Bought the 3050 because i needed a low profile gpu that uses the pci power only, and will probably stick with it tell they get a gpu with a noticeable improvement. Having 32gb of ram also helps with game play. Rust sits at 22gb+ consistently.
@@BonusCrook Maxwell and Pascal have the same IPC, the TFLOPs between these architectures are in line with the performance from them. You can use TFLOPs as a measurement if you know what you are doing, all this number means is the theoretical number of floating point operations the GPU makes in a second, but yes you are correct that you can't just use TFLOPs across very different architectures without understanding of how those architectures perform against each other. You can compare Pascal and Maxwell flops 1:1.
Even though this card can only put out good results on 1080p, every good monitor i have available can only get to 1080p. And i cant afford a good 1440p high refresh rate monitor, and a better high ish end gpu at the same time.
That's what I'm saying! I know tons of people who have relatively strong PCs connected to older monitors. Why get rid of a perfectly good 1080p monitor.
@@evrythingis1 considering what you said, if a ‘mid teir’ graphics card is 5 times more expensive than a high refresh rate 1440p monitor, and taking into account that THE cheapest 144hz 1440p monitor sales for around 170$ on amazon, that would make mid tier graphics cards 800$ and up. A 1080p 240hz monitor sales for around 140$ and a good 1080p gpu sales for around 350$ on average. So then whats the point of spending so much more for basically the same thing? ( i know 1440p and 1080p are diffeent, i just dont think the upgrade is worth it for the price.
Thanks Alex, my 2400G HP elite media/portal 2 machine was getting a lil long in the tooth. 4060 drop in awesome! No If you were doing this bit and indeed had no pants on. I'm sure we;d all trust you the exact same amount ;)
I got the A2000 And just now upgrading to the RTX 4060 Only bummer I’m putting it in my Precision 3431 There’s an issue with PCIe slot placement The x8 issue isn’t a problem as I only have an x4 open end slot Intel makes an Arc A380 low profile fyi I use Intel and nvidia mostly Newest I have nvidia is an Ampere (30 series) RTX A2000 and two Turing (GTX 16 series) GTX 1650 and 1630 Also have an Intel Arc A380 and Arc A750 limited edition on hand My gaming rig runs the Arc A750 Illl be putting the RTX 4060 in my i9 9900 Dell Precision 3431 Small Form Factor with 64 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX, WD Black PCIe 4.0 at 3.0 speed 1 tb NVMe ssd and two WD Blue 1 tb SATA 6 gbps ssds in raid 0 and an ultr hd Blu Ray optical drive For an SFF i9 9900 pc that started with a Quadro P620 swiftly upgraded to a GTX 1650 then back to a RTX A2000 now back to GeForce RTX 4060 again I think this is where the machine lives it’s life out til it’s just a server in my home lab
From someone living with solar and batteries. This looks like the best video card without having to spend a fortune on RTX 4000 Sff ada. Id like to know how this 4060 goes undervolting to reduce the power consumption further. IT surely will be a massive upgrade from intel integrated graphics lol
If you really think about it everybody who needs one of these will probably buy it pretty quickly out of desperation for more power since this is a niche market
I found for me starfield is very cpu intensive. I run a 11700F and a RTX 3070 and in quite a few areas its cpu bound(includes new atlantis). May explain why FSR did almost nothing for you. I even use the DLSS mod and it does about the same thing. I was hoping myself that 40 series could be a potential upgrade from my 3070 but id have to dish out 600 dollars just to gain 30% more performance. Really hoping 50 series or amd 8000 series will be worth upgrading to. Hoping for double performance around 500 bucks, alot to ask but im hopeful lol
with the 550 and the rx 6400 both coming in at 89 / 149 respectively, compared to 3060 / 4060 coming in at 290 / 340. about 90% of the peformance for half the cost, or 75% for a third to a quarter the cost....
Sorry, I can't take any of the results as truth unless I know whether or not pants were worn for the duration 🤣 /s Good tests, I've subbed! I was acutally going to go with the 4060 but I ended up going for a 6750 XT instead and it's serving me well! EDIT: I got to the end of the video, legend! xD
I downgraded to the LP 4060 because I assume its going to hold its value way more than my 6800 XT until it comes time to upgrade. The 1650 LP was overinflated in price for years even before covid.
I think it would be very interesting trying to undervolt the card, to see the max performance it can get inside a vero close clase like the xbox you have and not be burning itself down xd
The gpu really misses the usecase for low profile gpus. Most people use them to give a quick upgrade for an old, low power office pc. Its to big and to power hungry and expensive for what people will actually want to use it for
stuck one in an i5-8500 HP sff. even with the jank 250w psu feeding through a jank SATA to 8-pin adapter it does fine. Performs way better than my Series X for about the same outlay of cash too.
My main PC is a little weaker than yours with a 4080 and a 5900X and I basically stopped playing Starfield. Very disappointed in the performance and quality of the game tbh.
Me using LP cards despite having a full tower due to it probably going to be used on an itx case down the line... that thinking that is hard... since there's barely SFF cards out there thats actually "decent" outside of 1050ti
Umm, it’s definitely a 1440p or 4k card. I mean, not with those newer games but have you seen the Triple A gaming market lately? It’s absolutely garbage! & This card is amazing for a small form factor pc. Other than that niche though, you’re right, get anything else….
Check the description hahaha I'd consider another videos if I coulr find one of the dang things. I swear I'd have to fly to Shenzhen to actually buy one.
Here is my take as to why it will not be the "king" of low profile. They are too long! they don't fit in those business desktops and require a power connector! Everybody I know who are looking for LP card is for business desktop builds.
Rtx 4060 .. but uses a ad107 sku ... a really, really low end sku ... the gtx 1050 uses a 107 sku .... The rtx 4060 is the direct evolution of rtx 3050. And that is actually an amazing upgrade. 165% raster performance boost in average . 120% retail price. The frame/$ was . 73% of the rtx 3050 . Another way to see it is . The rtx 3050 cost 80 % of rtx 4060 . Raster perf at 60% of rtx 4060 .
@@Swallowfirenvidia up-named their gpu lineup .. and so did amd. The rx 7800xt... isn't the evolution of rx 6800xt.. but rx6800 non xt. This rtx"4060", would be an absolute banger at 250$. ( retail price of rtx 3050) Yet even at 300 $ . The direct competition is rx 7600 . At 270 $. -Performance are broadly similar . -rtx4060 is dwarfing the rx7600 in raytracing performance. - dlss vs fsr.. Despite the 30$ increase. The rtx is a "good value " Because the rx7600 is a poor value to begin with. Tho that is personal but I would still go with the rtx4060 even I could get the rx6700xt for the same price. Because fsr looks bad. And even when using 1440p as the base resolution to upscale. Dlss will still be ahead. Amd that gap widens and widens the further we go down in resolution. Like; 720p dlss >>1440p will look drastically better than : 720 fsr >> 1440p And a bit better than: 1080p fsr >> 1440p I can't recommend the rx7800xt when for 50$ you get dlss and way better rt performance. Witht the rtx 4070 non ti. I can understand that some would want 20~25 % better raster with rx 6700xt. But I prefer to have a cleaner image output. I have seen a video comparing ( native 1080p vs native 1440p vs 1080p dlss>>4k) In every cases . Dlss 1080p >>4k outclassed even native 1440p for image quality 👁👄👁. ( not only in stills but in motion. I could genuinely use the rtx4060 on my 4k 60hz TV. Cap the framerate lower a bit some settings and still have better experience than xbox series x🥲.. I regret buying an Xbox. I was so glad to hear we were gonna get raytracing in cyberpunk 2077 on consoles... I should have known .. that reflections wasn't even turned . Legitimately the most noticeable and important features of raytracing....
My video was writen, shot, edited, and uploaded before Dawid's. Specifically the 14th of Sept. The only reason it went up late is because I had to comment on the Unity drama.
8:40 this confirms me that not even reviewers understand new technology anymore and try to brute force everything 9:46 againg full on ignorance path tracing shouln't exist yet and no gpu can play it natively use DLSS or don't bother Not using DLSS or DLSS3 makes the gpu not beign used at its full potential, if you wan't so hard to brute force games get AMD as rasterization is their strong and then come back complaining games are not beign optimized
I used DLSS in Plague Tale and showed the card running with and without DLSS in CyberPunk. I even said DLSS3 looks good in Cyberpunk since it's a first person game. What's the issue?
The Cyberpunk tests were done on game version 1.63 without the use of Ray Reconstruction, but GamersNexus only measured an 8% increase in performance. 14 × 1.08 = 15.12fps, so add a single fps to my numbers if you're considering running a game at under 20fps.
Agreed navida I simply pulling software tricks now a days. We are currently at a physical limit!
Man.
Hands down your video helped me decide whether i should upgrade to this gpu or not. Not a single tech youtuber compared this LP 4060 with an actual full fledged gpu. It really helped me
The 4050 in its low profile form is finally revealed!
No ones buying that
@@Bolt451 Woosh. Its what 4060 is...
@@Sevastous nah I mean if they actually released 4050 it would just 4020
@@Bolt451 shall see. If it has RTX name people might throw money at it :)
WOAH I couldn't really make out the size from the thumbnail but now you holding it in your hand😳 that thing is tiny, so great to see a small graphics card again and it definitely performs a lot better than my GTX 1070
dont mind me, im just the video editor
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 😂
Really enjoyed the video, and subbed! Yes, please test this on a 3.0 motherboard. Pretty much every SFF workstation machine available will be 3.0, so this info would be very useful.
Should be out this week!
@@Swallowfire^legend
If they make this exact PCB size with the following changes I'm sold;
- AD106 with 4608 Cuda cores minimum (mobile "4070", actually a binned 4060ti)
- 2x92mm heatsink option using standard fans with standard headers (remains within PCI bracket height)
- shift the power connector to the "bottom" of the card (i.e. same orientation, same side, but towards the motherboard)
I don't plan to build an SFF system, but I like small cards, good design, and I'm just sick of the trends towards ever bigger GPUs. I'd rather have an under-stressed mid-tier card which is inaudible, runs cool, and is powerful enough to give a good experience. That GPU sag is even a problem is just silly. Reinforced slots are silly. Having to dismount a GPU for transport is silly. Cases getting fatter to accommodate taller cards and their silly sleeved cables is silly.
Less is more.
Low profile gpus are better for resale imo, so that's the only thing it has going for it
That would be a fantastic card if one of the AIBs would step up to make it.
I settled for an Asus Dual in my quest for Ada Lovelace in a reasonable size. Didn't need *actual* low-profile so it's fine, but it was disappointing to see how bad the situation was when I was shopping around.
Video cards are so laughably oversized these days and it's largely (no pun intended) for no good reason at all. Just excess for the sake of excess. Even my Asus Dual/two-fan cooler keeps the AD106 chip at barely over 70C while sustained max load.
VERY happy to see it's not noisy! I had the same Zotac 1650 LP in my system and it would scream like a banshee when playing games (but to be fair rarely touched past 78C either). I then upgraded to the RTX A2000 which never made a peep, so that really spoiled me. As a result I was hesitant to upgrade again to this, but the much higher quality heatsink + additional fan seem to have been worth it.
Your a2000 made no sound? Mine is really annoying. I even got replacement fans and they still make the same sound. It's whiny.
@@MartinKrol I can't help but think you got a bad bunch or something. I had two going in two PCs and never heard them. Sorry to hear that.
This card is absolutely amazing. Okay, so you have to use Frame Generation and DLSS in some titles, but while playing the difference is nearly zero and you'll soon be enjoying an amazing 5L PC doing what your old 35L PC used to do. Smaller, more efficient, quieter... Oh amazing.
You don't know if I am wearing pants either!!!
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1080p monitors are my go-to. My last 1080p monitor broke down and I went out to buy another one. Works fine for all games. I don't see the need for 1440p at the moment.
1440 is noticeable at even 24 inch monitors and 4k is miles different for certain
I have this card. Before that RTX A2000. in big sence, yes RTX 4060 is bad card. Exspensive, low Vram and slow compared to the rest of 4000 series. I know, i have a RTX 4090 as well.
But lets take one step back and look at this card from another angel. Only from the perpective of low profile cards. RTX 4060 i signigficantly faster than RX 6400/GTX 1650 and has twice the Vram aviable. RTX 4060 is even almost twice as fast as RTX A2000 (based on A2000 is pretty much RTX 3050 performance) and if it´s the 6 GB vram A2000. RTX 4060 still has 2 GB vram more and cheaper and faster than a new RTX A200 and way cheaper that RTX 4000 SFF. In that perpective RTX 4060 low profile is not so bad in that picture. I am not saying it´s a good card in the whole picture. But for low profile choise i don´t see it as bad at least.
If only the RTX 4000 ada was cheaper. I believe it performs similarly to the 4060 lp in scenarios where there isn't a significant Vram bottleneck. The major advantage is that while doing so, it comes in standard lp specs and draws less than 75 watts (meaning no power cable).
Really impressive card, it's a shame that you can't find any good low profile cases anymore that uses SFX psu not Flex or TFX
"The past was built to last"
The silverstone ML06E (7 liters) case is compatible with SFX psu and low profile gpu up to 175mm. The issue with this gpu is being longer than others LP gpu at185mm. Dont think it would even make sense to build a case based on a gpu. There are several cases you can get with this combination (HDplex + LP), (FLex + LP). Honestly this gpu only makes sense in certain scenarios.
Silverstone has several good cases for ATX. I think SFX fits in those too.
@@masterluckyluke There is an adapter SFX to ATX so you can use sfx power supplies on ATX cases.
I would love to see the temps and setup of your sleeper xbox 👀
So... it's a pretty rubbish skew that may have only wound up in a LP form factor because the power draw makes that possible and otherwise there would have been an awful lot of unsold silicon at the outrageous price. Got it.
I bought a new LP 1650GTX just before prices went really crazy and I still think I was robbed - never again! Thankfully I run emulators and play games from the days when new titles weren't unplayably buggy and actually fun. So I'll be getting my money's worth from the 1650 for a long time to come.
Honestly indie games from small teams are vastly more fun than AAA nowadays, and most of them run great on the Steam Deck, so I think your 1650 will do you just fine.
1:08 Such a silly little card🤭, three tiny fans instead of 2 that are as wide as the IO bracket and an absolutely overkill 8 Pin PCIe. Many 4070s also only have a single 8 pin, although it seems that the 6 pin PCIe has died out because I can't find any RTX 40 or RX 7000 card with a 6 pin PCIe, I suppose it's cheaper to just stock one connector instead of two
these 8 pins might be rated for 150W but extreme overclockers draw 300+ watts from one without any issues, der8auer has mentioned this at this year's computex, these connectors are extremely stout, makes the 12VHPWR even more embarrassing
Honestly say what you want about the 40 series but the fact they made a low profile 4060 is amazing. I think its awesome.
Edit. I agree about starfield it seems like no matter the settings its weird and the way the game looks you would think for it to run better. Also this new update has made my fps lower but more consistent. Went from 60 to 90 indoors to 45 to 55. And 35 to 45 outside. Was getting 45 to 60 outdoors. But no stuttering.... a weird game for sure.
Unfortunately, the RTX 4060 lp won't work for everyone due to the requirement for a power connector, the nonstandard length, and the very limiting 8gbs of Vram which is already a problem with titles today and will only get worse as time goes on.
If it wasn't 1000 dollars more expensive than an already badly priced card, the RTX 4000 ada would be the best card in all metrics except raw performance at stock (although hardware modding could change that).
Yeah the power connector is such an annoyance. I actually swapped the PSU in my Xbox PC because the old one didn't have an 8 pin. Same with the power supplies in Dell SFF PCs.
Imagine spending 1500 for a RTX 4000 just for it to get beaten by a 6800 XT. Brutal.
@TotallySearch The rtx 4000 sff also draws less than a third of the power while performing in a similar ballpark to the 6800xt and is a workstation card designed for continuous use under max load. As far as the silicon itself is concerned, the rtx 4000 sff is basically magic. However, efficiency and stability aren't worth the extreme difference in the price between the two for most use cases. It's also not a complete wipeout, but given the price, it can not be justified if gaming is what you're using it for.
Techpowerup shows the rtx 4000 SFF having 14 Gbps GDDR6...💀
@@BonusCrook It's probably slower because it has ECC and because they prioritized stability and energy efficiency.
It's kind of wild to see a low profile card that requires a GPU power connection. I like to see manufacturers push the limits of this form factor.
Did you also mention how hot this low profile Rtx 4060 is?
The 4060 is actually the best value NVIDIA GPU there is right now.
Especially when the direct competition is an rx 7600 .. that is stuck with fsr.
@@jeofthevirtuoussand and doesn't have more VRAM or a wider memory bus.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 if you have to go low end . Go with nvidia . Dlss.
If I have to live with one gpu for 5 years.
I would much rather be stuck with rtx 4060 than Rx 7600 .
Dlss can still make 540p look decent.
Meanwhile 540p is a nope zone for fsr.
Best value nvidia gpu but not the best value gpu if you consider amd stuff.
@@plsbanhackers9031 true
It's crazy, I want to build a HTPC and therefore need a low profile card. The 4060 is crap and this card especially is very expensive, but it is the only f****** low profile card in the whole world that can be used for gaming. There is not a single competitor to this card. I hate it, but it seems I have to buy it if I want to build this small form factor PC. I may wait a bit longer, but until now I didn't hear of any card in development that can compete with the 4060 low profile. It's so weird that no other company seems to care about it and Gigabyte can charge whatever money they want for this one.
Alex, can you elaborate more on your davinci resolve test? what parameters and gpu effects do you use? Thank you.
I just got an a2000 an receive it tomorrow super excited. I'm coming from rx6400 after having rx580 8gb best card I've had and 550x lp lol...
The 4060 low profile kinda missed it's mark to sell this to the Dell SFF droids (not worth putting a gpu in those ticking limited bios/hardware failures if you ask me) for having a pin connector on it. You can still put it in a SFF but you need to use fire hazard adapters, I definitely wouldn't suggest it. But it's far from the worst gpu of decade, the 1630 is still horrible. $130 for a 2022 GPU that can't compete with the 1650 and it's huge too.
The card's power draw is so low, there is no way it gets a heat problem. It's a standard 8-pin you find on every psu that is newer than 10 years or so. This card's power consumption and therefore heat might be comparable to the GTX 1060. It's not an 12VHPWR burn burn burn cable.^^
Dawid does tech stuff said to use a dual sata power to pcie 8 pin adapter, it'll only need to cover around 40W on this card.
That's card is something else. I can never get use to low profile cards, I've used them in Dell work stations because I had to . Great Video Alex
Bought the 3050 because i needed a low profile gpu that uses the pci power only, and will probably stick with it tell they get a gpu with a noticeable improvement. Having 32gb of ram also helps with game play. Rust sits at 22gb+ consistently.
you're good at this. surprised you have so few views!
I am sorry, but what CPU did you use to capture the framerate?
6:45 The GTX 1060 was a 4.6TFLOPs GPU and matched the GTX 970 also ~4.5TFLOPs, not the GTX 980, which matched the GTX 1070.
Tflops is a metric that only ignorant console gamers use. Its not a stand-in for actual benchmarking.
@@BonusCrook Maxwell and Pascal have the same IPC, the TFLOPs between these architectures are in line with the performance from them. You can use TFLOPs as a measurement if you know what you are doing, all this number means is the theoretical number of floating point operations the GPU makes in a second, but yes you are correct that you can't just use TFLOPs across very different architectures without understanding of how those architectures perform against each other. You can compare Pascal and Maxwell flops 1:1.
@@syferz yea, not really great to compare tflops other than similar architectures as you say.
Would love to see a tear down. Is the fin stack only one slot high?
Even though this card can only put out good results on 1080p, every good monitor i have available can only get to 1080p. And i cant afford a good 1440p high refresh rate monitor, and a better high ish end gpu at the same time.
That's what I'm saying! I know tons of people who have relatively strong PCs connected to older monitors. Why get rid of a perfectly good 1080p monitor.
@@evrythingis1 considering what you said, if a ‘mid teir’ graphics card is 5 times more expensive than a high refresh rate 1440p monitor, and taking into account that THE cheapest 144hz 1440p monitor sales for around 170$ on amazon, that would make mid tier graphics cards 800$ and up. A 1080p 240hz monitor sales for around 140$ and a good 1080p gpu sales for around 350$ on average. So then whats the point of spending so much more for basically the same thing? ( i know 1440p and 1080p are diffeent, i just dont think the upgrade is worth it for the price.
Thanks Alex, my 2400G HP elite media/portal 2 machine was getting a lil long in the tooth. 4060 drop in awesome! No If you were doing this bit and indeed had no pants on. I'm sure we;d all trust you the exact same amount ;)
i ve seen tests in cyberpunk 1440p high at 80 avg fps (ddr5 6000mhz, ryzen 7 7700, m2 980 evo)
Something is really fucked up with this setup for a 4060 to hit only 15fps in the city areas of Cyberpunk.
I got the A2000
And just now upgrading to the RTX 4060
Only bummer
I’m putting it in my Precision 3431
There’s an issue with PCIe slot placement
The x8 issue isn’t a problem as I only have an x4 open end slot
Intel makes an Arc A380 low profile fyi
I use Intel and nvidia mostly
Newest I have nvidia is an Ampere (30 series) RTX A2000 and two Turing (GTX 16 series) GTX 1650 and 1630
Also have an Intel Arc A380 and Arc A750 limited edition on hand
My gaming rig runs the Arc A750
Illl be putting the RTX 4060 in my i9 9900 Dell Precision 3431 Small Form Factor with 64 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX, WD Black PCIe 4.0 at 3.0 speed 1 tb NVMe ssd and two WD Blue 1 tb SATA 6 gbps ssds in raid 0 and an ultr hd Blu Ray optical drive
For an SFF i9 9900 pc that started with a Quadro P620 swiftly upgraded to a GTX 1650 then back to a RTX A2000 now back to GeForce RTX 4060 again
I think this is where the machine lives it’s life out til it’s just a server in my home lab
Bro just told he was not wearing pants at that moment ❤
From someone living with solar and batteries. This looks like the best video card without having to spend a fortune on RTX 4000 Sff ada. Id like to know how this 4060 goes undervolting to reduce the power consumption further. IT surely will be a massive upgrade from intel integrated graphics lol
If you really think about it everybody who needs one of these will probably buy it pretty quickly out of desperation for more power since this is a niche market
I found for me starfield is very cpu intensive. I run a 11700F and a RTX 3070 and in quite a few areas its cpu bound(includes new atlantis). May explain why FSR did almost nothing for you. I even use the DLSS mod and it does about the same thing. I was hoping myself that 40 series could be a potential upgrade from my 3070 but id have to dish out 600 dollars just to gain 30% more performance. Really hoping 50 series or amd 8000 series will be worth upgrading to. Hoping for double performance around 500 bucks, alot to ask but im hopeful lol
Kinda astonishing a game can be so poorly optimised that it CPU bottlenecks a 13400F with a GPU as weak as the 4060.
What’s the PCIe 3 performance ?
I'm not wearing pants either. We must be brothers.
with the 550 and the rx 6400 both coming in at 89 / 149 respectively, compared to 3060 / 4060 coming in at 290 / 340. about 90% of the peformance for half the cost, or 75% for a third to a quarter the cost....
Please run it on a PCIE 3.0 mobo, i need to know!
if you game close to your monitor, a 24 inch quality 1080p monitor is very nice, still, in 2023...
Flame on lol!
We will never know if his pants are on or not 😶We cannot trust!
Omg hes not wearing pants! 😂😂
So Is it a good upgrade for someone with a sff pc witch is using a 1660 gpu?
Sorry, I can't take any of the results as truth unless I know whether or not pants were worn for the duration 🤣 /s
Good tests, I've subbed! I was acutally going to go with the 4060 but I ended up going for a 6750 XT instead and it's serving me well!
EDIT: I got to the end of the video, legend! xD
Wow great video I love your energy!! ❤
Can you test this on a PCIE3 pc? I'm really interested in upgrading my Pavilion
should i get a used RTX 3060Ti for 260 gbp or a normal RTX 4060 for 288 gbp?
i dont agree with you at one point. the nvidia 60 cards never matched the previous 80 card.
Only time they got close in recent memory was the 1060 6GB vs the 980
Am I the only one who tried to see of he had pants on by looking at the reflection on the glass cabinet?
That comment was the reason to subscribe to him :D
looks like yts algorithm is finally catching onto your channel
I downgraded to the LP 4060 because I assume its going to hold its value way more than my 6800 XT until it comes time to upgrade. The 1650 LP was overinflated in price for years even before covid.
I think it would be very interesting trying to undervolt the card, to see the max performance it can get inside a vero close clase like the xbox you have and not be burning itself down xd
Pretty sweet card and possibilities with it
I run Cyberpunk on a Dell G16 with i9 and laptop 4070 and I get 1440p over 60fps consistent with RTX.
Imagine just commenting random stuff. Couldn't be this guy
How about the Arc A380?
GREATEST RTX 4050 low-profile
4060 is a better choice than 7600 at least.
The gpu really misses the usecase for low profile gpus. Most people use them to give a quick upgrade for an old, low power office pc. Its to big and to power hungry and expensive for what people will actually want to use it for
stuck one in an i5-8500 HP sff. even with the jank 250w psu feeding through a jank SATA to 8-pin adapter it does fine. Performs way better than my Series X for about the same outlay of cash too.
i want this one, but not avaiable in my country .. sad
Can I throws this in a victus 15L with a rx 6400 just want some more power without replacing 350 w psu
Finally I can switch out the lowprofile 1030 in my mom's pc
im curios to see it gaming Battle Field 2042 at 1440p low (every thing off) and 4k low+dlss
sadly, starfield runs bad on just about any configuration. even my 7950X3D/4090 combo doesnt help it much.
My main PC is a little weaker than yours with a 4080 and a 5900X and I basically stopped playing Starfield. Very disappointed in the performance and quality of the game tbh.
Of course it matters how it runs on a DDR4/PCIe3 SFF system.. this is its natural home.
Video update went up 47 mins ago! I used an old i7 5820K. Check it out.
subscribed because of the pants joke...
FINALLY
Trousers, sir. Trousers.
Gigabyte like their long cards don't they.
Nvidia's name is mud...HA! 9 months later.
Make a 16x pcie keep going I want one
A4000 Ada low profile should be even stronger…
I don't care about any nvidia technology, I care about horse power, not graphics parlor tricks.
Just give me rasterization
Lp cards are kinda the only use case for crappy gpu. Theyre great in sff builds but junk in full desktop setups.
Me using LP cards despite having a full tower due to it probably going to be used on an itx case down the line... that thinking that is hard... since there's barely SFF cards out there thats actually "decent" outside of 1050ti
Putting it inside an ATX case is hilarious. No chance of GPU sag though!
Umm, it’s definitely a 1440p or 4k card.
I mean, not with those newer games but have you seen the Triple A gaming market lately?
It’s absolutely garbage! & This card is amazing for a small form factor pc.
Other than that niche though, you’re right, get anything else….
Like all new cards have to be 3 slot and 10lbp... even ehrn it takes like 100w.
Please run on PCI-E 3.0
Ah ! But you are wrong sir. Intel IS making low profile cards now !
Honestly that's as far as my knowledge goes.
Maybe a chance for another video.?
Check the description hahaha
I'd consider another videos if I coulr find one of the dang things. I swear I'd have to fly to Shenzhen to actually buy one.
Here is my take as to why it will not be the "king" of low profile. They are too long! they don't fit in those business desktops and require a power connector! Everybody I know who are looking for LP card is for business desktop builds.
I play cybepunk 2077, with raytracing, on my 2080. And I get MUCH MUCH higher fps than this, esp at 1080p. I generally run 1440p and keep over 60.
Normal raytracing or full path tracing? Path tracing is significantly more taxing.
Isn't better just get a gaming laptop at this point?
eh The Intel A380 LP is still the king in my opinion.
I think this GPU will sell out soon
I agree. Getting a hold of a 1650 low profile used to be a nightmare because they'd sell out every time.
3060 does 1440p and the 4060 is better, dont guess or take some of the AMD peoples word for it.
Well, I hope not.
Rtx 4060 .. but uses a ad107 sku ... a really, really low end sku ... the gtx 1050 uses a 107 sku ....
The rtx 4060 is the direct evolution of rtx 3050.
And that is actually an amazing upgrade.
165% raster performance boost in average .
120% retail price.
The frame/$ was .
73% of the rtx 3050 .
Another way to see it is .
The rtx 3050
cost 80 % of rtx 4060 .
Raster perf at 60% of rtx 4060 .
I honestly think if they'd priced it lower and called it the 4050 it would be wildly praised.
@@Swallowfirenvidia up-named their gpu lineup .. and so did amd.
The rx 7800xt... isn't the evolution of rx 6800xt.. but rx6800 non xt.
This rtx"4060", would be an absolute banger at 250$. ( retail price of rtx 3050)
Yet even at 300 $ .
The direct competition is rx 7600 . At 270 $.
-Performance are broadly similar .
-rtx4060 is dwarfing the rx7600 in raytracing performance.
- dlss vs fsr..
Despite the 30$ increase. The rtx is a "good value "
Because the rx7600 is a poor value to begin with.
Tho that is personal but I would still go with the rtx4060 even I could get the rx6700xt for the same price.
Because fsr looks bad. And even when using 1440p as the base resolution to upscale. Dlss will still be ahead.
Amd that gap widens and widens the further we go down in resolution.
Like;
720p dlss >>1440p
will look drastically better than :
720 fsr >> 1440p
And a bit better than:
1080p fsr >> 1440p
I can't recommend the rx7800xt when for 50$ you get dlss and way better rt performance. Witht the rtx 4070 non ti.
I can understand that some would want 20~25 % better raster with rx 6700xt. But I prefer to have a cleaner image output.
I have seen a video comparing ( native 1080p vs native 1440p vs 1080p dlss>>4k)
In every cases . Dlss 1080p >>4k outclassed even native 1440p for image quality
👁👄👁. ( not only in stills but in motion.
I could genuinely use the rtx4060 on my 4k 60hz TV. Cap the framerate lower a bit some settings and still have better experience than xbox series x🥲.. I regret buying an Xbox.
I was so glad to hear we were gonna get raytracing in cyberpunk 2077 on consoles... I should have known .. that reflections wasn't even turned . Legitimately the most noticeable and important features of raytracing....
Having it be 4050 Ti 8GB at 200 would have made gamers nexus cream his pants.
@@BonusCrook Tbf ,it would have been a pretty good deal ,if it was the case,that it
Yes use pcie3
did anyone know if he was wearing pants or not ???
Did you watch until the end?
not yet 😅but i'm enjoying watching it a lot. @@Swallowfire
He wasn't 💀... this video could have legit been posted on ph or xv or xh or yp...and I will stop there before anyone gets a wrong idea of me ...🫠
ngl this one you kinda really just took dawids video
My video was writen, shot, edited, and uploaded before Dawid's. Specifically the 14th of Sept. The only reason it went up late is because I had to comment on the Unity drama.
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really??
@@marchinoasti Yes, friend, 1800 revolutions, this is the threshold after which discomfort appears
8:40 this confirms me that not even reviewers understand new technology anymore and try to brute force everything
9:46 againg full on ignorance path tracing shouln't exist yet and no gpu can play it natively use DLSS or don't bother
Not using DLSS or DLSS3 makes the gpu not beign used at its full potential, if you wan't so hard to brute force games get AMD as rasterization is their strong and then come back complaining games are not beign optimized
I used DLSS in Plague Tale and showed the card running with and without DLSS in CyberPunk. I even said DLSS3 looks good in Cyberpunk since it's a first person game. What's the issue?
Calling 4060 the king of anything is just blasphemy
Winning an election is easy when you're the only name on the ballot hahaha