@@paulknoll4261 Yes, I meant regional. There are regions that were late in the 2016 PC Gaming Resurgence and didn't get the memo for a RX 470, instead in 2017 they got the 1050 Ti, the Etherium Survivor...
@@paulknoll4261 There are regions that did not get the memo to get a RX 470 in 2016, the year PC Gaming had a resurgence. Instead, they got the Etherium Survivor, the 1050 Ti.
@@paulknoll4261 There are regions that did not get a RX 470 in 2016, the year PC Gaming became strong. They got the 1050 Ti in 2017, after all the other GPUs were out of stock.
@@klocugh12 the major overprice here is on AMD, the 6400 should be $99 the 6500 should be $120 and the 6600 should have been around $160-180 from launch. This should be called the rtx 3040 and should be priced at $150-160.
@@klocugh12 At release it was 180 on amazon... wouldn't say it's overpriced for what it delivers, considering a 6500xt is 140 reg, and 170 for ITX. also, 6400 is 150 and arc a380 is 120. For 180 (or even 200 that it's gone up to recently) this is a pretty price efficient card, you might as well just go with a 6600 for like 200 if you want better performance instead of form factor and power savings though...
Hmm... I'm trying to get my hands on an LP model, but you can't buy it in the states yet. Anyhow, I think it's an exciting card for the LP market. The 1650 LP sells for about the same money on eBay, has 2GB less VRAM, doesn't have DLSS and is quite a bit slower. When your only other options are the RX 6400 and Arc A380... for gaming, this is pretty awesome for SFF OEM systems. This is a great option for the SFF OEM market. However, at a full height card, it makes no sense at the same price point when a $190 RX 6600 exists and wipes the floor with even the 8GB model, even with RT. It needs to be a sub $150 card. And I agree, it should have been the 3040. Had the 8GB been a 3050 Ti... it would be fine, but NVIDIA is going to do NVIDIA things.
@@Lostcontroller Newegg never had the LP models in stock, nobody has, so they're not really sold out. They popped up and have always been on auto notify. I ordered the MSi model from B&H and it says it's special order. 7-14 business days. I'm uninterested in the full height models, as I already said... they're not worth it with the 6600 being $10 more. They need to be sub $150. I need the LP model for some testing I'm doing against a bunch of other LP cards. I'll just wait for B&H to ship my order. Probably won't see it until March.
@@Lostcontroller Newegg didn't sell out of them... they never had them in stock. No retailers in the U.S. have had any of the low profile models in stock. B&H will let you order the MSi model, but it says that it's special order and will take 7-14 business days. I ordered one from them, and hopefully I see it by March. As for the full height models, I already made it clear that I don't think they worth getting. They need to be much cheaper to be enticing when there are other new, faster options, at the same price... like the RX 6600.
Yup, you make a good point; the low profile model is interesting given you can throw it into almost anything. The full size version, however you're better off not bothering with as there's better options out there and yep, it should be called the RTX 3040. Nvidia being Nvidia again....
If you need a new low profile card powered by a PCIe slot for an SFF computer that has previously been used in an office, the choice is rather small: A380, RX6400 and RTX3050. It's not worth complaining about the RTX3050, because it has better performance than the others.
@@a.bamatraf6054 yeah basically super niche case. You do know that as long as the card fits you can use a sata to pcie power connection run stuff like 6600 right ? Like I am pretty sure that even the cheapest power supplies have have a power connector these days
This is genuinely a good option for the mini pc with a pcie slot. Aside from the power consumption I still think getting a use rtx 2060 is kinda better option for an nvidia card with it being around $150 locally for me.
No it's genuinely terrible option given the existence of RTX 4060 Gigabyte OC edition when Low Profile cards are required . Though I suppose 4060 is less addorable.
@@GameslordXY I wasn't talking about mini itx or small form factor pcs, I'm talking about those mini pcs similar to intel nucs. The one with a full pcie slot is the minisforum ms-01 and it doesn't have a pcie power cable to run the 4060 low profile.
@@LeKingCarnage get a used 1650? it will be 20% slower but less than half the price. But if this fits your use case, it just is the niche card I guess.
Budget level is not for RT gaming. So happy with my RX 6600, snagged it Nov '22 for 280$ CDN, thing's a champ man for the price. Next step up was 400$ CDN, and the uplift was nowhere near 30%. Just cannot justify the cost to somewhat properly run RT. *edit to add: am no fan boy of team green - red or blue, am team CONSUMER!
I don't do team blue-red-green stuff, only care about how we the shopper plebs fair out hehe ^_^ Wish I could remember how those two stack up against one another. 12gb ain't bad at all these days for my budget lol XD Is rasterization performance (pure fps ommph) higher with the 6700XT? What's the draw for you to move over to the 6700XT? Genuinely curious and bored on a Sunday, hehe ^_^' @@mohamedmagdy-dz1pm
I love how everybody calls it poor value and if I ask them what is the better deal then, they recommend some used 10 year old enthusiast class Radeon with monster size that won't fit into my case and with 400W TDP they found on ebay at the same price. But hey, it's 10% faster!
I keep seeing people say that this should be called a 3040 but you should keep in mind that the XX50 cards from Nvidia have historically been the 75w TDP drop in versions since the RTX 750 and the RTX 3050 8gb is really more of a Super based on it's power draw. This being dual slot kind of murk's the trend though and keeps out many SFF PC's but it should still fit those cheap hp mid towers. The question is what kind of performance loss is there on an old used PC w/ PCIE 3.0 that these no pin connector cards are very useful in.
This will be huge for the OEM SFF upgraders! The 4060 LP has struggled from needing an external 8 Pin PCIe power cable and the a2000 has been overpriced because of it's niche status. You can hardly even find USED LP 1650/1050 for less than $180, so this is sure to sell.
I think people underestimate how big the OEM SSF upgrade market is. There's a reason the 1650 LP is often out of stock and being scalped at $250+. Most kids can convince their parents to grab a new $200 GPU over a bunch of random used parts off eBay or Craigslist. It $180 its basically a steal compared to what's been available beforehand
@@kathleendelcourt8136 On the subject of normal PC components, yes, on the subject of drop in OEM replacements, no. That's the point that has been made.
It has ray tracing hardware, so it deserves the RTX name, at least on paper. Whether GPUs this weak should ever have ray tracing hardware in the first place is a different question though. They could be made cheaper and more powerful by leaving out a feature that isn't useful anyway on GPUs this weak. AMD should have done the same with their integrated GPUs - Radeon 740M having 4 RT cores is just dumb, who wants to use ray tracing on a GPU only as powerful as a GT 1030?
@@nathangamble125oh that's easy, AMD doesn't have dedicated RT or AI hardware, instead the stream processors present in RDNA compute units are capable of ray tracing and AI workloads. That's why RT cores always = CU count and why AMD loses more performance when turning on RT, it's because a portion of your compute units switch from rasterization to ray tracing.
@@nathangamble125 well a gtx card like the 1080 ti can infact raytrace just imagine if this card was called something else, had more vram, was more capable but did not have rt capability and did not have dlss support, it would soooo much more appealing for sub 200 dollar gpu and you are absolutely right, no weak card should ever have rt capability but well many people are going to buy it thinking its just one class below the 3060
Whilst it isn't perfect, it's great to see Nvidia actually starting to care about the budget gamers who just want to have some of the recent Nvidia-only features. Now we can hope that they will continute to make cards like this, although preferably at a lower price.
For a low profile it is nice. You are right saying that other cards are better at slight lower price, but this is the only best Low Profile card. It is nice if you have prebuild pc with simple psu, without pins for powered gpu. That said, it should be compared only to other low profile cards, not other and also older psu powered cards, beacuse it is not its purpouse of use.
Forgetting the fact that SFF PC's exist. For someone who wants to build an emulation console or Steambox to sit under the TV out of an old office PC, this is going to the best card you can get. Nvm, you mentioned it at the very end. Lol
Just pay the extra money for the GigaByte RTX4060 lowprofile. I have one on my HP800 G1 with 4790 and it brought new life to the i7 4790 for 4k resolutions and its the render equivalent of the RTX2080 in a small form factor. Absolutely amazing
@@My_Old_YT_Account so what about the power connector? The 4060 for the price is overall the better value. Has the same render equivalent as the RTX2080 that MSRP'd for$1200 new and to get that equivalent in the 4060 for under $355 after tax the price to performance, price has gone way down. My HP 800 G1 uses a 240 watt power supply and powers the 4060 just fine. The 3050 6 GB renders at about a GTX 1060 6GB model sells for $275 after tax at half the render scalability of the RTX4060 that just cost less than a 1/3 more. The RTX 3050 6GB is just overall a bad value for long term gaming.
@@unknownname6519 its not its a 1/3 more for double the power. The RTX3050 6GB is $265 after tax. The RTX 4060 on amazon is $349 after tax. Literally 30% more in cost for 90% more render. The 3050 6GB would beed to be $216 to be a value to the render equivalent
Honestly SCAN is an amazing retailer and no I am not a advertising bot lol Got my GPU from them ages ago and came the next day. Then got a Micro SD for my SteamDeck ordered at 9pm on a Sunday and came at 8am on the Monday. Got some parts for my brothers PC from SCAN and some from Overlockers and lets just say all the SCAN stuff was fine but the Overclockers items may have had a few bent pins with no physical damage around the pins. Guys WE STAN SCAN.
I'm happy with Scan after I bought my Suprim X 4080 Super from them on launch day - got it early the next day without any issues. Glad I bought in quick as they soon disappeared 😂
Yeah this card just ain’t it. NVIDIA’s playing anyone who thinks they are getting a 3050. If you want new just get an RX 6600 and call it a day. It at least has 8 gigs of vram which I think is the minimum for 2024 1080p gaming.
Is this the new SFF 75W King? The SFF Prebuilt upgrade scene is a little dead since CPU performance surged in the last 5 to 10 years.. but still nice to have.
This is an excellent SFF computers card and can turn gaming on console type looking PCs into a real thing. Of course it's only FULL HD 1920/1080p card, that's something to remmeber and you could probably only need a 60 Hz refresh monitor as the card doesn't seem to exceed that FPS area
One thing to note the Gigabyte version has 4 outputs. In business environment using Oem PCs where you need some 3d rendering for work and 4 outputs it makes it one of the only GPUs you can buy.
From what I've found, the answer is "it depends on your motherboard", so probably best to look up your particular one to find out if it can deliver that much power over PCIe.
It’s a perfect option for me. I’m trying to turn an old small form factor business PC with an i5-6500 into a Plex server capable of 4K transcoding. This GPU will be able to just slot right in, and it’ll be able to handle all the transcodes I could ever need, breathing new life into a PC that would otherwise end up in the scrap bin. Being small form factor, it can just tuck away out of sight and consume as little power as possible, while returning some decent performance
In on itself it is not a 'bad' card per se, but I believe it is still expensive for what it is and it came out a little too late. If this card, appropriately named as a 3040, was released two years ago it would have been awesome for an entry level gpu, even at the $180.00 price. Still this is not a bad option if you want a new entry level card or you can't use external power connectors on your pc. Great to see you cover this card, even if it is not the best price/performance wise it is still important to see how it fares, more so due the price being a relatively entry level GPU. Thanks for the video!
@@My_Old_YT_Account And that's probably why it's so expensive. It doesn't really have competition in the 75w power draw market, besides a weaker 1650 or a more powerful, but usually more expensive, RTX A2000 (the 6GB A2000 costs over 600€ in my country, compared to 3050 at 210-230€).
My mouth is watering at the idea of throwing this in my server but I can't think of any use cases atm that would justify not waiting for the price to drop or used cards to appear.
At this price, absolutely. It's a poor value even if you want to upgrade a low profile PC, and there are countless infinitely better options for a system of normal size.
In My Personal Opinion, Seeing the Chart at 2:30, I am Better off Buying an RX580 Which still to this day Is one of the Best Price to Performance Value, Coming at around $50~$60. I just hope they make an Low Profile Version of it so Everyone could put it any built without needing an External PCIE Power connector. This is only my Opinion reply if you have a different one.
I was actually thinking of doing a cheap SFF build for my niece (All she plays is the Sims 4 and Genshin Impact). This card might fit the bill, actually, since she doesn't have a lot of space for even a midtower PC in her room.
Why the heck did you freaking do all the Ray Tracing tests with max settings?????????? All the instances tested would put this card >6GB of VRAM used without the RT! Heck, RT usually isn't *that* big of a VRAM hog. My ROG Ally at 6GB to the VRAM can do 50+FPS Ray Tracing at Medium Settings at 1080p with Dynamic Res (floor is perf mode upscaling) in Miles Morales! And that's
All the 1080P gamers are gonna love this! Including me! This is a dream at only 200 bucks, the rest of my PC can pack quite a punch it's just the graphics card
The pricetag of the RTX 3050 6GB is absolutely it's downfall. Here in Denmark, the cheapest RTX 3050 6GB and RX 6600 are extremely close in price, and since most RX 6600 models have a powerdraw of 100 watts at stock, but sometimes double the performance of the 3050 6GB, there are very few good reasons to buy the 3050 6GB...... However, it could be a very interesting GPU for a lot of people if the price was lower. For a lot of people, who just plays older titles or easier to run e-sports titles, it has acceptable performance, and a nice and low powerdraw. So at a lower price it could be the go-to for a lot of people, but we all know that Nvidia won't reduce the price enough for it to be relevant...
Is there a reason you didn’t compare this to the Arc A580 instead of the A380? The A580 costs the same or less than the new 3050 and appears to be much more comparable performance wise to an RTX 2060, which in your testing is far superior to the new 3050. Whether you pay a little less and get an A580 or a little more and get an RX 6600, both have higher vram and higher performance while still being brand new. Anyway, keep up the good work! I like your videos better than that Hardware Nexus guy anyway…
Sure, it’s because I buy this stuff with my own money, so I can only compare GPUs to others that I’ve bought. I haven’t bought an A580 yet. For a while it wasn’t possible to get one in the UK, but it does now seem to be available, so maybe it’s something I’ll look at in the future.
For Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora, expect some texture issues due to VRAM usage. 8GB is the minimum requirement and I have already encountered some issues with my 6GB card. Sure, you can play with a 6GB card but the game would only allocate around 5GB and max that out quite often.
Out of curiosity, is your RX 5500 running through a PCIe x4 or xi interface? There are reports of the AE cards occasionally being reflashed W5500s that are running x4 rather than true RX 5500 OEM cards running x8.
This was a great video with good comparisons. As someone that use to ONLY use computers that could fit the low profile cards and the 75watts the slot provided (think recycled business class PC), this was right up my ally. You are spot on with the idea that there are older cards that can out perform if you just give up the smaller form factor (as I did) and use more power. This is still nice to take a look at. It's too bad they can't squeeze just a bit more out of these tiny power sippers.
Ok, guys leave a clap emoji in the comments. Iceberg is one of the only youtuber that I watch. It's because of this quality. The content feels premium, Iceberg you are a hidden gem for every hardware enthusiast. Thanks.
The amount of people not understanding this is really for SFF OEM PC owners is astonishing. You know, the PCs with very limited options for GPUs and PSU upgrades to support them. It outpaces the 6400 and the 1650 and is only worse than the 3060LP, a2000, and a4000. Not everyone has the money to spend on an entirely new custom build. Some of us have to get our shit on the cheap.
Don't forget that there are also multiple versions of the base GTX 1650, a GDDR5 version and GDDR6 version. They can differ surprising amounts in performance.
Just started the video, but I've been waiting for this review!. I know the 3050 6gb isn't going to be great, but im curious how it holds up against something like the 1650. Ok. Gonna watch now hahaha
Looks like you forgot to enable Rebar. My ASRock a310 lp was able to play Forza horizon 5 (no upscaling) at 1440p ultra/extreme with ray tracing maxed for a solid 50-60fps only annoying thing was the "low vram pop-up" (Those were the settings I last used before I swapped cards to test out the a310's gaming performance before throwing it in my server) The a310 should not be outpacing the a380 at all. It really does appear that you left Rebar off.
Interesting. The cut down OEM rtx 3050's also have the same specs but it has 8gb of vram instead of 6gb on the low profile. So this is a cut down of a cut down.
I do stuff on twitch with a dual PC setup. It is a LP EliteDesk with a 6700 and my gaming PC has a 12400F and 6700 XT (was bought before streaming) I could see myself buying one for that computer for reasonably priced Nvenc. Would be a pretty good option with not being able to use PCIe power and needing LP.
hey guys look, it only took nvidia 8 years to bring a gtx 1060 with dlss that looks like shit at 1080p anyway looking forward to checking raytracing in cyberpunk at 480p i swear nothing short of capital punishment will stop these marketing departments from trying to scam consumers
Time Spy graphics: 4864
Fire Strike graphics: 12379
I always figured My laptop 3050 6gb was better it has more cores at the same power draw and has a graphics score of 5564 in timespy
@@tyler6602 because of voltages
An nVidia 6GB Grudge-Match would be entertaining
RTX-3050-6GB v GTX980-Ti
1660 super or ti?
Batlle of the hexagigs to the death!
@@shutitmoronbasically the same gaming performance, so get the super as it is generally cheaper
Vs 1660s vs 2060
@@-_--le3zk oh no i know i was talking about the guy doing a 6gb battle. he left out the 1660
hardware nexus , paul's twocents 💀
What about jarods random iceberg in hd?
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Digital Foundry or bust
Why is jay red though???
@@baoquoc3710 what was the original channels of this? lol
not jayz word but the last one
A regional upgrade for 1050 Ti owners.
Had 1050ti, bought RX6600. 3050 is so bad
@@paulknoll4261 Yes, I meant regional.
There are regions that were late in the 2016 PC Gaming Resurgence and didn't get the memo for a RX 470, instead in 2017 they got the 1050 Ti, the Etherium Survivor...
@@paulknoll4261 There are regions that did not get the memo to get a RX 470 in 2016, the year PC Gaming had a resurgence.
Instead, they got the Etherium Survivor, the 1050 Ti.
@@paulknoll4261 There are regions that did not get a RX 470 in 2016, the year PC Gaming became strong.
They got the 1050 Ti in 2017, after all the other GPUs were out of stock.
@@paulknoll4261 Well, most folks got a 1050 Ti in 2017.
Usually AMD product stock is not high globally.
Those mutant RUclipsrs were terrifying, thanks.
Dayum, a 2024 RTX card that makes 6500xt looks like a contender horse at the Hippodrome
Huh? It beat both 5500XT and 1650 SUPER, which means it will beat 6500XT easily as well. Not bad per se, just a tad overpriced.
@@klocugh12 the fact that it's in a similar ball park is what's disappointing.
@@klocugh12 the major overprice here is on AMD, the 6400 should be $99 the 6500 should be $120 and the 6600 should have been around $160-180 from launch. This should be called the rtx 3040 and should be priced at $150-160.
@@koreannom price is in similar ballpark too. 6500XT isn't a match. 6600 isn't either - except other way round.
@@klocugh12 At release it was 180 on amazon... wouldn't say it's overpriced for what it delivers, considering a 6500xt is 140 reg, and 170 for ITX. also, 6400 is 150 and arc a380 is 120. For 180 (or even 200 that it's gone up to recently) this is a pretty price efficient card, you might as well just go with a 6600 for like 200 if you want better performance instead of form factor and power savings though...
This card would be great at $100.
This is the price of a used 2070 super, this card won't be a good value even for 2 dollars
@@nullravager can delusional annoying people like you shut up?
@@nullravager this is not the price of a ryx 2070 super, it still sells around 190$
This card is 170$ msrp anyways
@@masterswords7202 Thanks for correcting me, I saw one for $100 so I thought that was the norm
@@masterswords7202 20 dilla more for 2070 super
Hmm... I'm trying to get my hands on an LP model, but you can't buy it in the states yet. Anyhow, I think it's an exciting card for the LP market. The 1650 LP sells for about the same money on eBay, has 2GB less VRAM, doesn't have DLSS and is quite a bit slower. When your only other options are the RX 6400 and Arc A380... for gaming, this is pretty awesome for SFF OEM systems. This is a great option for the SFF OEM market. However, at a full height card, it makes no sense at the same price point when a $190 RX 6600 exists and wipes the floor with even the 8GB model, even with RT. It needs to be a sub $150 card. And I agree, it should have been the 3040. Had the 8GB been a 3050 Ti... it would be fine, but NVIDIA is going to do NVIDIA things.
Newegg is already sold out of those, but the ASUS and Gigabyte OC models are still up for grabs. But, for $180 this is not worth it.
@@Lostcontroller Newegg never had the LP models in stock, nobody has, so they're not really sold out. They popped up and have always been on auto notify. I ordered the MSi model from B&H and it says it's special order. 7-14 business days. I'm uninterested in the full height models, as I already said... they're not worth it with the 6600 being $10 more. They need to be sub $150. I need the LP model for some testing I'm doing against a bunch of other LP cards. I'll just wait for B&H to ship my order. Probably won't see it until March.
@@Lostcontroller Newegg didn't sell out of them... they never had them in stock. No retailers in the U.S. have had any of the low profile models in stock. B&H will let you order the MSi model, but it says that it's special order and will take 7-14 business days. I ordered one from them, and hopefully I see it by March. As for the full height models, I already made it clear that I don't think they worth getting. They need to be much cheaper to be enticing when there are other new, faster options, at the same price... like the RX 6600.
Yup, you make a good point; the low profile model is interesting given you can throw it into almost anything. The full size version, however you're better off not bothering with as there's better options out there and yep, it should be called the RTX 3040. Nvidia being Nvidia again....
If you need a new low profile card powered by a PCIe slot for an SFF computer that has previously been used in an office, the choice is rather small: A380, RX6400 and RTX3050. It's not worth complaining about the RTX3050, because it has better performance than the others.
rx 6400 has half power usage of rtx 3050 6gb btw
RX6400 TDP=53W, RTX3050 6GB TDP=70W
Facts, and it still performs well at PCIe 3.0 (x8), unlike 6400 that got crippled performance on the same PCIe
This is your next upgrade gt 1030 users.
That Hardware Unboxed face edit will give me nightmares.
Finally a new bus only low profile card :D
Like i know the 3050 is meh but thats a feature that i like
10 % faster than 1650Super ? LOL
I got that GPU for 145$ 4 years ago.
for mini ITX build that require non power connector ? nothing can beat this card LOL
@@a.bamatraf6054 and 0,1 % of all buyers gives a shit about this.
@@a.bamatraf6054That seems to be rather niche market.
For "normal" budget build, card is hot garbage at this price that nvidia asks
@@a.bamatraf6054 If you want a card with no power connector your choice is basicly non-existant...
@@a.bamatraf6054 yeah basically super niche case. You do know that as long as the card fits you can use a sata to pcie power connection run stuff like 6600 right ? Like I am pretty sure that even the cheapest power supplies have have a power connector these days
This is genuinely a good option for the mini pc with a pcie slot. Aside from the power consumption I still think getting a use rtx 2060 is kinda better option for an nvidia card with it being around $150 locally for me.
No it's genuinely terrible option given the existence of RTX 4060 Gigabyte OC edition when Low Profile cards are required .
Though I suppose 4060 is less addorable.
@@GameslordXY I wasn't talking about mini itx or small form factor pcs, I'm talking about those mini pcs similar to intel nucs. The one with a full pcie slot is the minisforum ms-01 and it doesn't have a pcie power cable to run the 4060 low profile.
@@LeKingCarnage get a used 1650? it will be 20% slower but less than half the price. But if this fits your use case, it just is the niche card I guess.
If only it were single slot.
@@modernlogixDLSS is a killer feature to have.
man, the production quality on these videos are great, i am definitely staying to be a long time viewer
The King of Transitions returns to us @ 9:10, excellent work once again.
Budget level is not for RT gaming. So happy with my RX 6600, snagged it Nov '22 for 280$ CDN, thing's a champ man for the price. Next step up was 400$ CDN, and the uplift was nowhere near 30%. Just cannot justify the cost to somewhat properly run RT.
*edit to add: am no fan boy of team green - red or blue, am team CONSUMER!
I run RT on my 7600, used to on my 6600xt, but my 7600 has better performance, got my 7600 for $250
Same here, bought an RX 6600xt on december and I'm very happy with it. I couldn't care less about RT either
Don't let it mislead you. RT is actually the least feature you're buying with Nvidia RTX card.
I have been contemplating ditching my RTX 3060 12GB Card for an AMD 6700XT, actually.
I don't do team blue-red-green stuff, only care about how we the shopper plebs fair out hehe ^_^
Wish I could remember how those two stack up against one another. 12gb ain't bad at all these days for my budget lol XD
Is rasterization performance (pure fps ommph) higher with the 6700XT?
What's the draw for you to move over to the 6700XT?
Genuinely curious and bored on a Sunday, hehe ^_^' @@mohamedmagdy-dz1pm
4:45 what the heck is this? 😂😂😂😂😂
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I love how everybody calls it poor value and if I ask them what is the better deal then, they recommend some used 10 year old enthusiast class Radeon with monster size that won't fit into my case and with 400W TDP they found on ebay at the same price. But hey, it's 10% faster!
u didnt watched the video to the end right ? RX 6600
@@Uthleber RX6600 needs an 8-pin connector, the 3050 doesn't
@@deanchur3050 is still expensive for what it offers in terms of performance
@@deanchurmost people who don't need the SFF form factor do have a power connector
I keep seeing people say that this should be called a 3040 but you should keep in mind that the XX50 cards from Nvidia have historically been the 75w TDP drop in versions since the RTX 750 and the RTX 3050 8gb is really more of a Super based on it's power draw. This being dual slot kind of murk's the trend though and keeps out many SFF PC's but it should still fit those cheap hp mid towers. The question is what kind of performance loss is there on an old used PC w/ PCIE 3.0 that these no pin connector cards are very useful in.
And laptop version shall be called 3030
This will be huge for the OEM SFF upgraders! The 4060 LP has struggled from needing an external 8 Pin PCIe power cable and the a2000 has been overpriced because of it's niche status. You can hardly even find USED LP 1650/1050 for less than $180, so this is sure to sell.
Or just get a better PC
I think people underestimate how big the OEM SSF upgrade market is. There's a reason the 1650 LP is often out of stock and being scalped at $250+. Most kids can convince their parents to grab a new $200 GPU over a bunch of random used parts off eBay or Craigslist. It $180 its basically a steal compared to what's been available beforehand
@@spoots1234 $180 is way overpriced for such entry level harware and performance.
@@kathleendelcourt8136 On the subject of normal PC components, yes, on the subject of drop in OEM replacements, no. That's the point that has been made.
@@ALmaN11223344 Sure, let's justify price gouging just because there's a lack of offer.
Haardware Nexus and Paul 2 Cents got me cracking! Please keep being the funniest, most budget oriented and most sincere reviewer on youtube.
at this point, you might as well call it a gtx
it should be gtx.
It has ray tracing hardware, so it deserves the RTX name, at least on paper.
Whether GPUs this weak should ever have ray tracing hardware in the first place is a different question though. They could be made cheaper and more powerful by leaving out a feature that isn't useful anyway on GPUs this weak. AMD should have done the same with their integrated GPUs - Radeon 740M having 4 RT cores is just dumb, who wants to use ray tracing on a GPU only as powerful as a GT 1030?
@@nathangamble125me I want to use rt on a low low end gpu
@@nathangamble125oh that's easy, AMD doesn't have dedicated RT or AI hardware, instead the stream processors present in RDNA compute units are capable of ray tracing and AI workloads.
That's why RT cores always = CU count and why AMD loses more performance when turning on RT, it's because a portion of your compute units switch from rasterization to ray tracing.
@@nathangamble125 well a gtx card like the 1080 ti can infact raytrace
just imagine if this card was called something else, had more vram, was more capable but did not have rt capability and did not have dlss support, it would soooo much more appealing for sub 200 dollar gpu
and you are absolutely right, no weak card should ever have rt capability but well many people are going to buy it thinking its just one class below the 3060
That Hardware's Nexus/PaulzTwoCents image is going to be seared into my brain for the rest of my life.
Well done sir!!!
Being worse than the 1660 series makes absolutely no sense.
With 6 gigs, you might be able to trace like, 3 light rays at most.
Whilst it isn't perfect, it's great to see Nvidia actually starting to care about the budget gamers who just want to have some of the recent Nvidia-only features. Now we can hope that they will continute to make cards like this, although preferably at a lower price.
Why not just buy a 1060 or 1070 on the 2nd market?
@@lateralus6512 its for people that dont have an external Power connector...
@@lateralus6512 because they are used
For a low profile it is nice. You are right saying that other cards are better at slight lower price, but this is the only best Low Profile card. It is nice if you have prebuild pc with simple psu, without pins for powered gpu. That said, it should be compared only to other low profile cards, not other and also older psu powered cards, beacuse it is not its purpouse of use.
Forgetting the fact that SFF PC's exist. For someone who wants to build an emulation console or Steambox to sit under the TV out of an old office PC, this is going to the best card you can get.
Nvm, you mentioned it at the very end. Lol
Just pay the extra money for the GigaByte RTX4060 lowprofile. I have one on my HP800 G1 with 4790 and it brought new life to the i7 4790 for 4k resolutions and its the render equivalent of the RTX2080 in a small form factor. Absolutely amazing
It's almost twice the price and needs a power connector...
@@My_Old_YT_Account so what about the power connector? The 4060 for the price is overall the better value. Has the same render equivalent as the RTX2080 that MSRP'd for$1200 new and to get that equivalent in the 4060 for under $355 after tax the price to performance, price has gone way down. My HP 800 G1 uses a 240 watt power supply and powers the 4060 just fine. The 3050 6 GB renders at about a GTX 1060 6GB model sells for $275 after tax at half the render scalability of the RTX4060 that just cost less than a 1/3 more. The RTX 3050 6GB is just overall a bad value for long term gaming.
Its double in €$
@@unknownname6519 its not its a 1/3 more for double the power. The RTX3050 6GB is $265 after tax. The RTX 4060 on amazon is $349 after tax. Literally 30% more in cost for 90% more render. The 3050 6GB would beed to be $216 to be a value to the render equivalent
Hardware Nexus and Paulz2Cents are my favorites
I prefer RandomGaming Yes City and Craftconst
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Got my GPU from them ages ago and came the next day. Then got a Micro SD for my SteamDeck ordered at 9pm on a Sunday and came at 8am on the Monday.
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Yeah this card just ain’t it. NVIDIA’s playing anyone who thinks they are getting a 3050. If you want new just get an RX 6600 and call it a day. It at least has 8 gigs of vram which I think is the minimum for 2024 1080p gaming.
My man, keep it up! Although i don't comment on your videos, i will be watching from the sidelines as usual.
Your channel is growing steadily!
Can't wait for the next GPU, the RT(X) 3030, the upgrade of the GT(X) 1630.
32-bit memory bus, let's go!
With less bandwidth than ddr3 ram
Hell yeah 720p ray tracing dlss potato
@nathangamble125 nah you gotta adjust for inflation it's gonna be 16
I felt physically ill reading this
This is a lemon. Calling this an RTX 3050 while lacking 40% worth of performance is just a straight up lie.
So a power efficient 1060 6GB with Raytracing for double the price a 1060 costs used? Fair enough.
Is this the new SFF 75W King?
The SFF Prebuilt upgrade scene is a little dead since CPU performance surged in the last 5 to 10 years.. but still nice to have.
The A2000 is still faster, though maybe not in games as that has to be seen
Feels more like the release of the last AGP cards...
This is an excellent SFF computers card and can turn gaming on console type looking PCs into a real thing. Of course it's only FULL HD 1920/1080p card, that's something to remmeber and you could probably only need a 60 Hz refresh monitor as the card doesn't seem to exceed that FPS area
@4:44 I've watched one guy never heard of the other but def like your presentation style better than the one.
For 10$ more you can get an RX 6600 which is like 2 times the performance and 8GBs of VRAM 💀
Not if you have an SFF PC
you're not the target audience for this gpu. an rx6600 will not work on a low watt PSU without 6 pin or a small case.
One thing to note the Gigabyte version has 4 outputs. In business environment using Oem PCs where you need some 3d rendering for work and 4 outputs it makes it one of the only GPUs you can buy.
ur underated man love ur vids
Given that a low profile 4060 exists by Gigabyte for double the price, you’re better off going with that instead, especially in the long term.
With it's 70w tdp requiring no external power does this mean I can put this in to an old dell optiplex and it will be sufficiently powered?
From what I've found, the answer is "it depends on your motherboard", so probably best to look up your particular one to find out if it can deliver that much power over PCIe.
Really, the LP cards and KalmX of this GPU are the only ones worth buying
Think ill just stick with my 1650 for a couple more years👍🏻 thing’s a champ
Being Bus powered is pretty sick though for an RTX card
10:24 I recall noticing some artifacts also with FSR at 1080p for my GTX 1070 in CP2077.
YAY, you cover with the 5500!! I got that for my daughter for $70 from Ali, I found it wonderful!
I would say arc a580 is more of 3050 6gb competitor than a380, a580 is around the same price as 3050 6gb if i remember correctly
Nvidia never fails to disappoint their average customer like us
What planet are you from? 😂
@@AshtonCoolmanI think he means that nvidia never fails to disappoint
@@AshtonCoolmanEarth, where Nvidia never fails to disappoint us
People still buy Nvidia like crazy that's dumb
@@Revealed2705Because both Intel and AMD suck.
It’s a perfect option for me. I’m trying to turn an old small form factor business PC with an i5-6500 into a Plex server capable of 4K transcoding. This GPU will be able to just slot right in, and it’ll be able to handle all the transcodes I could ever need, breathing new life into a PC that would otherwise end up in the scrap bin. Being small form factor, it can just tuck away out of sight and consume as little power as possible, while returning some decent performance
Elitedesk per chance?
In on itself it is not a 'bad' card per se, but I believe it is still expensive for what it is and it came out a little too late. If this card, appropriately named as a 3040, was released two years ago it would have been awesome for an entry level gpu, even at the $180.00 price. Still this is not a bad option if you want a new entry level card or you can't use external power connectors on your pc. Great to see you cover this card, even if it is not the best price/performance wise it is still important to see how it fares, more so due the price being a relatively entry level GPU. Thanks for the video!
"it is still expensive for what it is" and that is the definition of a bad card.
@@Uthleberthere's not any other real option sadly
@@My_Old_YT_Account And that's probably why it's so expensive. It doesn't really have competition in the 75w power draw market, besides a weaker 1650 or a more powerful, but usually more expensive, RTX A2000 (the 6GB A2000 costs over 600€ in my country, compared to 3050 at 210-230€).
My mouth is watering at the idea of throwing this in my server but I can't think of any use cases atm that would justify not waiting for the price to drop or used cards to appear.
Why don't they just call this the RTX 3030 lol
Really enjoying the content man. Great job!
launching a brand new 6gb gpu should be illegal
At this price, absolutely. It's a poor value even if you want to upgrade a low profile PC, and there are countless infinitely better options for a system of normal size.
In My Personal Opinion, Seeing the Chart at 2:30, I am Better off Buying an RX580 Which still to this day Is one of the Best Price to Performance Value, Coming at around $50~$60. I just hope they make an Low Profile Version of it so Everyone could put it any built without needing an External PCIE Power connector. This is only my Opinion reply if you have a different one.
I love Low profile GPUs, that make any office computer in a nice gamer pc.
This would be a good upgrade from my msi 1650 low profile but here in the states it’s currently $446.82 with shipping on amazon and not worth it.
It's not that bad tbh, if they lowered the price it would be valuable option.
Sincerely it should've been a 120$ GPU, the 3050 8 GB should've been 150/160$...
@@ismaelsoto9507 yeah I agree.
I’m looking at cards that don’t require external power to upgrade an old office PC and this is one of the only options so...
Finally, a 1650 with all the modern features, like the feature to be able to cut performance in half for no reason.
Truly revolutionary
I was actually thinking of doing a cheap SFF build for my niece (All she plays is the Sims 4 and Genshin Impact). This card might fit the bill, actually, since she doesn't have a lot of space for even a midtower PC in her room.
rtx 3050 6gb it's trash
6gb vram at 96 bits 😂😂😂 lol
just buy a 6600 non xt
Way to sum up a 20 minute video in three lines...
The 6600 non-XT is a real champ at its price point
The 6600 wouldn't fit in an SFF case
Why the heck did you freaking do all the Ray Tracing tests with max settings??????????
All the instances tested would put this card >6GB of VRAM used without the RT!
Heck, RT usually isn't *that* big of a VRAM hog. My ROG Ally at 6GB to the VRAM can do 50+FPS Ray Tracing at Medium Settings at 1080p with Dynamic Res (floor is perf mode upscaling) in Miles Morales! And that's
Yeah, I found that decision God awful. If you want to test ray tracing, then do medium or even low settings, and enable ray tracing on top of it.
6gb is a crime at this point 😂
I live in the US and this card is nearly impossible to find. I don't get it, this card ticks a lot of boxes for budget builds here in the States.
Probably because it would get murdered by Tech Jesus and everyone else in reviews. And rightfully so given the poor naming.
All the 1080P gamers are gonna love this! Including me! This is a dream at only 200 bucks, the rest of my PC can pack quite a punch it's just the graphics card
The pricetag of the RTX 3050 6GB is absolutely it's downfall. Here in Denmark, the cheapest RTX 3050 6GB and RX 6600 are extremely close in price, and since most RX 6600 models have a powerdraw of 100 watts at stock, but sometimes double the performance of the 3050 6GB, there are very few good reasons to buy the 3050 6GB......
However, it could be a very interesting GPU for a lot of people if the price was lower. For a lot of people, who just plays older titles or easier to run e-sports titles, it has acceptable performance, and a nice and low powerdraw.
So at a lower price it could be the go-to for a lot of people, but we all know that Nvidia won't reduce the price enough for it to be relevant...
if you want ray tracing on older games
In this line up you could put the AMD Ryzen 7 8700G, the integrated graphics kind of compare to these GPU's.
I wonder why they only offered 3050 ti version for laptops only.
Is there a reason you didn’t compare this to the Arc A580 instead of the A380? The A580 costs the same or less than the new 3050 and appears to be much more comparable performance wise to an RTX 2060, which in your testing is far superior to the new 3050. Whether you pay a little less and get an A580 or a little more and get an RX 6600, both have higher vram and higher performance while still being brand new. Anyway, keep up the good work! I like your videos better than that Hardware Nexus guy anyway…
Sure, it’s because I buy this stuff with my own money, so I can only compare GPUs to others that I’ve bought. I haven’t bought an A580 yet. For a while it wasn’t possible to get one in the UK, but it does now seem to be available, so maybe it’s something I’ll look at in the future.
Why didnt you use arc a580 instead of a380
better than 1080 TI ?
For Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora, expect some texture issues due to VRAM usage. 8GB is the minimum requirement and I have already encountered some issues with my 6GB card.
Sure, you can play with a 6GB card but the game would only allocate around 5GB and max that out quite often.
Hey Iceberg, do you have comment rules like the largest TV channel in the UK?
Out of curiosity, is your RX 5500 running through a PCIe x4 or xi interface? There are reports of the AE cards occasionally being reflashed W5500s that are running x4 rather than true RX 5500 OEM cards running x8.
15:16 music name???
This was a great video with good comparisons. As someone that use to ONLY use computers that could fit the low profile cards and the 75watts the slot provided (think recycled business class PC), this was right up my ally. You are spot on with the idea that there are older cards that can out perform if you just give up the smaller form factor (as I did) and use more power. This is still nice to take a look at. It's too bad they can't squeeze just a bit more out of these tiny power sippers.
I don't know how you made a card as powerful as a 1060 look ok in 2024.
19:50 That's the same pc I have right now, and am planning to do my first upgrade with the RTX 3050 6GB Low Profile. Hope it works out 😁
Ok, guys leave a clap emoji in the comments. Iceberg is one of the only youtuber that I watch. It's because of this quality. The content feels premium, Iceberg you are a hidden gem for every hardware enthusiast. Thanks.
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The amount of people not understanding this is really for SFF OEM PC owners is astonishing. You know, the PCs with very limited options for GPUs and PSU upgrades to support them. It outpaces the 6400 and the 1650 and is only worse than the 3060LP, a2000, and a4000. Not everyone has the money to spend on an entirely new custom build. Some of us have to get our shit on the cheap.
Don't forget that there are also multiple versions of the base GTX 1650, a GDDR5 version and GDDR6 version. They can differ surprising amounts in performance.
GDDR6 version was meant to replace the GDDR5 one since memory maker stop making GDDR5.
DUDE PLEASE please please use a dang de-esser on your audio track! I love these videos but your high end cracks the eardrum way too much.
Just started the video, but I've been waiting for this review!. I know the 3050 6gb isn't going to be great, but im curious how it holds up against something like the 1650. Ok. Gonna watch now hahaha
Looks like you forgot to enable Rebar. My ASRock a310 lp was able to play Forza horizon 5 (no upscaling) at 1440p ultra/extreme with ray tracing maxed for a solid 50-60fps only annoying thing was the "low vram pop-up" (Those were the settings I last used before I swapped cards to test out the a310's gaming performance before throwing it in my server) The a310 should not be outpacing the a380 at all. It really does appear that you left Rebar off.
My 1660S: what a joke, i never felt so ashamed.
Was watching this after a day of work, and do be feeling oddly familiar yet equally foreign with Gamers Unboxed and JayZHardware at 4:42.
I might be in the minority but I think this would be great in an ultra low power use case. A passive cooled 3050 6gb would be great!
Palit always had issues with their availability =/ @@dualpapayas
"I bought the 3050 6GB for ray tracing" said the clown.
I heard the specs in the small print say it can manage 1 Ray per console generation 0.o
If not this, what will replace the 1050ish tier cards?
Maybe a good choice to pair with the 4th gen CPU's/Office Ewaste stuff
A would absolutely love to see you make a video about the different types of upscaling please 🙏
Interesting. The cut down OEM rtx 3050's also have the same specs but it has 8gb of vram instead of 6gb on the low profile. So this is a cut down of a cut down.
Please review the 12100f
Might buy one to use as a low end CUDA card in my optiplex machines.
I got an rx 6400 in my optiplex that I now regret buying because of this
I do stuff on twitch with a dual PC setup. It is a LP EliteDesk with a 6700 and my gaming PC has a 12400F and 6700 XT (was bought before streaming) I could see myself buying one for that computer for reasonably priced Nvenc. Would be a pretty good option with not being able to use PCIe power and needing LP.
hey guys look, it only took nvidia 8 years to bring a gtx 1060 with dlss that looks like shit at 1080p anyway
looking forward to checking raytracing in cyberpunk at 480p
i swear nothing short of capital punishment will stop these marketing departments from trying to scam consumers