Oh man, I remember when they first announced the titan and thinking to myself "A thousand dollar GPU!!! Who would ever pay $1000 for a graphics card? That's obscene!" Lol, fast forward 10 years later
@@goregejones7248Naaah. Bought a 5700 XT in 2019. Here we are almost 5 years later, aside from ray tracing and maybe dropping textures 1 notch here and there, it's still doing 1080p60 maxed out in anything (with or without FSR2/TSR/TAAU Quality)
One good thing about it is the VRam as you can still up the textures on games while keeping settings lower for high frame rates. Its shocking how good games can look with high textures at low settings while still giving good performance.
The quality of these videos have increased SO MUCH, i've been following you for a good 1.5 years now, at first it was just to entertain and learn a couple things about PC related things since I was new to it, but now you're genuinely making me interested in old PC parts, so please keep doing what you're doing, I love it
Seeing the Titan X play the big games of its era, after they have been fully patched, drivers have matured, and CPUs can feed the beast, it is nice to see that it could play those games well even up to 4K resolution and as it should be. It is impressive how well it did in more modern titles up to a point, but it absolutely is showing its age. I know my RTX 2080 Super with its 8GB of RAM is going to struggle with certain current titles, however, I am not playing those and have no plans to currently. I have a back log of old titles I am trying to get through that play flawlessly at even 4K resolution maxed out. The more modern games I play such as Cyberpunk 2077, I have to make some small sacrifices at 2560x1440 to keep 60FPS, but have little trouble maintaining 70FPS on mostly high settings at 1920x1080 resolution. A friend of mine was offered a Titan to buy, and he considered it till I offered him my GTX 1070 and AMD Ryzen 5 1600X both for $200.00. Cyberpunk 2077 runs great at 1920x1080 with a mix of low and medium settings, FSR 2.1 set to Quality, maintains a pretty solid 60 FPS. And with his Christmas upgrade to an AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, the GTX 1070 doesn't even hitch at all now, its bonkers.
I bought two Titan X Maxwell cards (for Sli) back in early 2015. I still remember how annoyed i was when they released the 980 ti right after, which had basically the same performance (and for 300 dollars less). But as the years went by, the 12GB VRAM started to become a benefit in games. I ended up using them as my main GPU's for over 8 years until late 2023, which is the longest i have ever used any GPU. Only just recently retired them for an RTX 4080 16GB because of newer games. What started out as a bit of a buyers regret (since the 980 ti was released right after) ended up becoming one of the best purchases i have ever made.
It's astounding, how some people will turn objectively bad things into "Oh but it was actully good". Stop lying to yourself, you've wasted 3000 bucks on cards, which could have spent so much better. Hell, if you had put 3000 bucks into Nvidia stocks, you would have been a millionaire by now.
@@Orcawhale1 lol, look at this guy trying to ruin people's enjoyment. seriously, just.... who cares? the purchase is already done (and has been so for 8 years already), and sure, the card is objectively bad, but if one can still enjoy games and things they like with it, why should they care anymore? it's just like adopting pets, for some people (especially dads), they'd think that they hate the dog/cat/whatever because [objective reason A/B/C...], but after many months or years, they'll end up enjoying the animal's company and love.
@@jamesbrendan5170 If you treat a a inanimate object like a pet, you got major problems, truly. Am not even saying that to be mean, that's a legitimately sign of insanity.
@@cyclonous6240 Aside from TLOU remake you are absolutely fine with 10gb for how fast/slow the 3080 core is. You might have to turn textures from ultra to very high in a few games at 1440p, but you'll largely never notice in actual gameplay. the 3070ti with 8gb and the 4060ti with 8gb are about the only trouble cards for having faster cores vs the vram they have.
I replaced my Titan X (2015) a mere three months ago - with a used 2080TI I got as a gift. My Titan X now happily lives in the PC of my wife, replacing her 970TI she had before. What can I say, she loves Hogwarts Legacy and the Titan X is enough to play that game on very decent settings at 1080p.
What's really striking to me is how higher boost clocks really helped 980 Ti owners out versus this 1089 MHz on the Titan X. Such a low clock speed coupled with a longer pipeline really made the difference. The 1080 has 1 whole mb less than the Titan X so to see such a difference is just amazing. It's the lesson AMD learnt after their Vega disaster, RDNA 1 had less alus but just a better pipeline for gaming, however Vega had the crown on crypto thanks to the massive cache ect. Just interesting to see this play out. Thanks for the video it was insightful and hope all is well cheers
I bought into that hype back in 2015, I always remember being awestruck about the performance of the 1070 matching my GPU just 8 months later xD at 1/3 the price too lol
it's crazy that the 'titan' idea (as in performance) started with 90 series cards, evolved into titans, and then devolved back into 90 series cards. I really do hope we get another titan.
i currently use a titan X maxwell in a core i7 3960x x79 system, i'm impressed with its emulation performance it runs rpcs3 about as good as my ryzen 7 5800x system with a 1080ti , the kicker is i still use windows 7 on my 3960x system so i can't even use the latest version of rpcs3 on that system , long live maxwell gpus still supported in 2024 and going strong
I bought a 980ti when it came out precisely because it was so close to a Titan X but at $350 less. It held up very well until I upgraded with RDNA 3's release.
Mine overclocked like a champ, 2200mhz on the core and she would just scream. was nearly 15% in most benchmarks. Ran 92c though even after thermal paste replacement. Coolers have come a long way since then for sure. I also had a golden sample that was a good 3% ahead of most benchmarks at stock (had the EVGA binned version).
What's really strange is a year ago, Iceberg Tech reviewed the 980ti. The 980ti is literally a cutdown varient of the Titan X Maxwell, the 980ti even has a lower boost clock and the same TDP! Yet the 980ti consistently outperformed Titan X. I guess driver support for the titan is dropped earlier.
Looking back at the numbers, the 980Ti won by ~10% in Forza Horizon 5 and ~20% in Cyberpunk. The 980Ti was boosting higher, but not by much - about 70MHz - so it shouldn't really have scored higher, but I think I might have an answer. Cyberpunk has had some big updates, including the Phantom Liberty DLC since my 980Ti review, which probably accounts for the difference. Meanwhile, I don't believe I used TAA in FH5 back then, which might account for the drop in performance compared to the 980Ti. I'm watching an auction on a 980Ti right now, so if I win I'll retest it to see how it's held up.
30:54 Yeah, the average price of a used Titan Volta finally dipped into my price range mere days before Derbauer's video, which caused them to shoot back for the moon again. Wasn't lucky enough to grab one in time. :(
One interesting thing about the Titan X Maxwell card was that it was actually allowed to have custom models from AIB/board partners and after this generation it was ceased. EVGA had the Titan X SC (Superclocked) with a 13% out of the box OC, it looked the exact same as the NVIDIA Titan X Maxwell card, just pre-binned. They also had a Hydro Copper variant which had a copper waterblock already attached with a 15% OC. It was interesting to see that NVIDIA allowed their partners to mess around with the Titan product line of cards and create custom models. The Titan lineup has always been interesting because although it was always super expensive, it did always have huge VRAM for its time period.
Back in 2015, I'd never thought that 9 years later integrated graphics would match the Titan X everyone talked about back in school, mostly because IGPUs were not a reliable option for low-gaming back then (I think they started to be a low-budget option with the 2nd gen of ryzen CPUs)
Maybe if you're talking about M2 Ultra "integrated GPU". Because the ARC iGPU in Intel Core Ultra or RDNA3 780M is very far from matching 980 Ti / Titan X Maxwell
@@raresmacovei8382 bro did you even watch the video 20:22 he literally says the rx 780m got same average fps as the titan x and whats the point of bringing up intel graphics their igpu’s are only good at display adapters not gaming
@@agab3asbgedsbef479 forza is a bit of special case since horizon 4 i think? Radeon usually faster in that game if you use maxwell or pascal. Nvidia did not really even the gap until turing which support all DX12 features more properly.
They literally are. I've hear people say it. Not sure if Nvidia have, but it's a ridiculously overpriced card, when then 4080 super will comfortably smash anything you throw at it. It's basically just there so you can say my GPU was £1,700 for no reason. Sounds like a Titan to me!
My thought is that the people who bought this card had the intention of playing a large variety of games at high settings. With that in mind I would imagine that even though that even though over time the performance fell off, the people who bought this card probably felt that they got their moneys worth of gaming with it. Some things don't last forever and when it comes to tech, that statement is more than true, it's inevitable. This card was top of the line, and as a result it was only used by a small percentage of gamers at the time, and I'm sure those people were happy with it at the time.
I'm gonna do some clearing of my current subscribed channels. There's some that just aren't doing anything for me. I don't want to have good content like this amongst stuff I don't care for.
@@Orcawhale1 same chip mate, only lower clocks and less vram and less cores and tmu's and better say the titan x is 3% better then the 980 ti (techpowerup)
@@the_sjdo A cutdown chip isn't the same as the full fat one, so that's wrong. What's more, it can't be a "uncut" version of 980Ti, when the Titan X predates it.
9 years old and is only just being pushed out at 1080p for casual gamers. I'd say £1000 for 8 years of use is really good! I had this Titan X... sold it for a 1080Ti two years later :P
Just looked up the price of used ones out of curiosity, people asking 300-400$ listing it as a 12 gig card, can it even use all 12 Gigs in most games these days? I find SLI interesting but it's tech from before I was super into this stuff.
If 12gb is on 1 PCB on one of the cards, yes, it can use all 12gb. People think memory bus width / bandwidth have anything to do with how much a card can use, which is false. However, there is a difference between using it and using it and having it run fast. That's where mem bw is important@@pptemplar5840
Awesome work on the video, very enjoyable. Anyone else get a weird perverse pleasure from seeing the former "for the rich only" products get humbled so severely?
Prices of GPUs became abysmal these days. GTX 970 was 35000 tk here. Now a 4070 costs 85000 tk and it's not even that impressive performance wise on current games.
@@Radek494 Taka. 970 was roughly around 320-350$ here depending on model. And now a 4070 costs 770-780$. I just gave up on pc gaming and moved on to consoles because of the price.
@@RiasatSalminSami I mean they literally are. £70 on console and £50-60 on PC but with PC you could get them in other ways off a man with an eye patch or buy the keys half price on G2A or CD keys.; They cost up front is less but with steam sales and just cheaper games it will even out if you use it for a few years. Best thing to do is get a steam deck right now. Console quality experience with all the extra cool shit of PC. Cost less than a PS5 £309 for LCD and £479 for the OLED. and it's portable, and it's a PC. so powerful for the price, doesn't make any sense but I love it.
Perfect timing! I am building a Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Vista Ultimate high-performance workstation at the end of the year and intend on getting two Maxwell Titans in it. Just have to tweak the driver files so XP recognizes them!
With this series iceberg i wish you the best of luck trying to get the rtx titan from the 20 series (its a rtx 2090) ive seen those things at about a grand
If you are still running a Titan XM; I presume that your budget has significantly decreased over the years. So these are the GPUs I would go for. This will contain a mixture of used and new. New: 7600 XT ($320) 4060 Ti 16GB ($410) 7800 XT ($480) 7900 GRE ($550) Used: 2080 Ti ($330) 3080 12GB ($350) (Don’t go 10GB unless you like shooting yourself in the foot) 3080 Ti ($400) 3090 ($550-$650) 6800 XT ($350) 6900 XT ($490)
I reccomend adding Helldivers 2 to the benchmark lineup, it's an actually optimized game that won't make most GPUs commit wattage go boom or melting temperatures as it's a PS5/PC "exclusive" with plenty of dynamic yet consistent scenarios
One thing to mention is that it is the fastest gpu that still comes with a DAC so you can use CRTs out of the box with no latency punishment. Still using one for a Sony GDM FW900
Hey iceberg, I was just thinking, will we ever get VR benchmarks? As a person that plays a lot of vr games (sometimes more than normal games) I was wondering about the performance of some cards since vr benchmarks are surprisingly not that common. Thanks!
You should check out the 12gb Tesla m40 same specs as the Maxwell Titan X but it's headless but very easy to setup, most sell for around $40usd but I've picked them up as low as $25usd. Definitely not a bad option if you're on a super tight budget.
my first gpu that i ever bought for myself was a used pascal Titan X and my god that card was such a step up. I loved it, but i wanted to switch to linux so i gave it to a friend to build a pc and bought a 6700 xt. i also played cyberpunk on my titan x after beating it on my xbox one s. fsr was a champion for that
Can I take just a second to recommend the "Hairworks on everything but Geralt" mod on Nexus. it's the first mod I install every time, and specifically the version that keeps his beard wit hairworks. the monsters with fur aren't the biggest issue with hairworks, it's the higher AA tiers and geralts hair in particular. but I don't like the way his beard looks without it. and the griffon trophy keeps his locks too which is a nice bonus. minimal hit to framerate compared to vanilla hairworks.
i just got one of these theyre now 125 on cex, i actually could not see one cheaper on ebay, grabbed it because its the best card with xp support via driver modding
As a backup gpu it would not be a terrible option. The key is getting it for a good price. It seems to go for $150-$200 in the current second hand market.
I gotta ask... is it throttling? It sure as hell looks like its hitting 83c where boost stops and not maxing out on power I know these blowers are particularly terrible for noise but the thermal paste seems to be dried or something
i like how resolutions lower than 1080p basically don't exist anymore. idk if i had this card i'd have no problem using 900p to get a few more fps. heck even 720p is on the table, i don't care
I did play Arkham Knight at launch, which is also why I bought a GTX 970 to get it and Witcher 3 for free. It wasn’t too bad on my PC but I also had the game installed on a SATA SSD instead of a hard drive. Main issue is some graphical glitches happened but I might also have avoided it if I didn’t play it for so many hours as I did, lol. On a hard drive and lower tier GPUs it would be unplayable.
I rock 2 of these in my system. I got them for 350 for the pair without shrouds. 2 3d printed shrouds later, and i have the cheapest 24gb of vram money can buy for deep learning. Also, they run gtav at 100 fps on max in 4k.
I remember wanting a Titan so badly, but it was just not feasible on a college kid budget I’m surprised there wasn’t a way to get a 1.0 version of Arkham Knight on the interwebs somewhere from a third party website and tried testing it out that way..
I know it will sound dumb, but after watching a bunch of videos of older cards since the 900 series, it's shameful how the current GPU scenario is. $200 GPUs now can barely run a 1080P game at ultra/high settings without some kind of help from those upscaling tools. Back in 2014, I really believed that by now we would at least have less expensive cards able to handle 1440p easily
I'm still using a Titan Xpascal, starting to show it's age in some games but still a fairly capable card, got it instead of the 1080ti as they were both the same price used in 2018 😅
not many people know this but hairworks in the witcher is rendered by the cpu not gpu they coded it wrong so it doesnt use the nvidia phyx engine on the gpu but on the cpu
Getting a mid range-ish GPU and upgrading every 2 to 4 years is WAY more worth it than getting a very high end gpu and upgrade in 8 to 10 years. It takes about 4 years to a lower mid range to catch up with a very high end gpu, but that comes with many benefits: support to newer techs, lower power comsumption, overall better driver compatibility, and lower price.
600 euros got me the 980ti back then that has lasted to this day, still playing most everything decently at 1080p 50+ fps. For that price the highest I can get now would be the cheapest 4070 model (non super), an MSI Ventus 2X OC... I don't know about you but I don't expect that 4070 to last even 4 years at this rate meanwhile the 980ti is getting close to 10. Needless to say spending any less that that nowadays on a graphics card is going to provide a horrible return on investment. You end up paying more in the long run and having to worry about selling and recouping money to spend on the next card every few years, dealing with early driver issues, never quite having the performance to keep you happy for long... At some point the hassle doesn't become worth the money saved now.
got this gpu in 2015 ran it at 1440p 165 overclocked it the entire time as high as itd go did so good for those years till in 2020 i got a new cpu and a titan xp second hand in box
I think that the Titan X could perform better in recent games. Despite being officially supported with new Game Ready drivers I always wonder whether in reality Nvidia is optimising games to run at their maximum on Maxwell and Pascal or if they are just checking if the game starts and that is it since they have all the interest in the world for people to change old hardware.
man i remember watching linus tech tips showing off the titan X as an "unbelievable" $1000 card. "who would spend that much money on a pc?" I said. well past me, I didn't spend a grand on a gpu, i only spent $850 on a gpu. Who would have thought buying a gt610 would lead me here eventually?
Same here I startet with gtx 570 and now rocking a Asus rog strix rtx 4090 oc. I became totally obsessed with pc hardware just to watch even more hardware videos on RUclips
Love your videos, im not sure how much the Lenovo p520 goes for in your region, but here in the states they are very cheap and very upgradeable, i would love to see you do videos of those with different gaming configuration at lowest to best possible for gaming options and value for gamers on a budget trying to get the most out of there money. Ty sir for your videos
How we got here mainly is 5nm is expensive as fuck and will not be going anywhere any time soon. Now I'm not excusing nvidia over pricing the 4080 and 70-60 and whatever but the 4090 does take around 800-900 dollars to make because of the huge ass die it has (609 mm²).
How we got here is the same reason why AAA games suck, mindless consumers armed with their parents credit cards. I sold these cards back in the day, and i can tell you that all of these cards were sold to kids/young adults, who weren't going to use that power. Most of whom would come back and buy the next card, aswell, because they were addicted to buying new hardware.
@@yasu_red I think people just like to bitch because nvidia does in fact bend people over for GPU prices. However there are some times when the cost of a product is justified. When you butt up close to the reticle limit of any given node and the node is expensive as shit (5nm and any future nodes will be even more so) then yeah you will have cards that cost 1000+ dollars. And this is coming from me, someone that thinks no one should buy nvidia because fuck them.
big downfall of the maxwell arch was its poor a sync compute performance and low fp32 bandwidth because of it in turn. thats why you saw a quick turn around because nvidia knew gcn would keep chugging as long as it got fed faster and faster memory. gcn 2+ all have amazing a sync performance.... thats why you saw some games on maxwell cards havea huge difference and even more so now with it being implemented more regularly (its also why maxwell sucks in vulkan)
Oh man, I remember when they first announced the titan and thinking to myself "A thousand dollar GPU!!! Who would ever pay $1000 for a graphics card? That's obscene!"
Lol, fast forward 10 years later
Hello jeff
Even if u spent 1k dollar that day, u could use the GPU more than 5 years, now if u spent 1k dollar buying a rtx 4080super I'm not sure about it.
@@goregejones7248Naaah. Bought a 5700 XT in 2019. Here we are almost 5 years later, aside from ray tracing and maybe dropping textures 1 notch here and there, it's still doing 1080p60 maxed out in anything (with or without FSR2/TSR/TAAU Quality)
@@goregejones7248DLSS and Frame Gen will greatly increase the lifespan of GPU's.
Cause game developers are getting lazy
They launch half baked games in the pretext of" graphic"@@goregejones7248
Man the work involved in this video was massive for a 9 year old niche product. I love seeing these old flagships revisited.
It is absolutely criminal how little recognition this guy gets for how high quality and high production his videos are
Iceberg has been steadily delivering such top-notch content for years now ⭐️
niche is the keyword here.
One good thing about it is the VRam as you can still up the textures on games while keeping settings lower for high frame rates. Its shocking how good games can look with high textures at low settings while still giving good performance.
Rdr2 is a great example of that, ultra textures and everything else at the lowest looks great.
I remember those days when people would say you’d never need 6 gb or 12 gb of vram. Oh those were the days!
Just a few years ago we were told we didn't need more than 10GB of VRAM, and to ignore the allocation numbers
The quality of these videos have increased SO MUCH, i've been following you for a good 1.5 years now, at first it was just to entertain and learn a couple things about PC related things since I was new to it, but now you're genuinely making me interested in old PC parts, so please keep doing what you're doing, I love it
Seeing the Titan X play the big games of its era, after they have been fully patched, drivers have matured, and CPUs can feed the beast, it is nice to see that it could play those games well even up to 4K resolution and as it should be. It is impressive how well it did in more modern titles up to a point, but it absolutely is showing its age. I know my RTX 2080 Super with its 8GB of RAM is going to struggle with certain current titles, however, I am not playing those and have no plans to currently. I have a back log of old titles I am trying to get through that play flawlessly at even 4K resolution maxed out. The more modern games I play such as Cyberpunk 2077, I have to make some small sacrifices at 2560x1440 to keep 60FPS, but have little trouble maintaining 70FPS on mostly high settings at 1920x1080 resolution. A friend of mine was offered a Titan to buy, and he considered it till I offered him my GTX 1070 and AMD Ryzen 5 1600X both for $200.00. Cyberpunk 2077 runs great at 1920x1080 with a mix of low and medium settings, FSR 2.1 set to Quality, maintains a pretty solid 60 FPS. And with his Christmas upgrade to an AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, the GTX 1070 doesn't even hitch at all now, its bonkers.
I bought two Titan X Maxwell cards (for Sli) back in early 2015.
I still remember how annoyed i was when they released the 980 ti right after,
which had basically the same performance (and for 300 dollars less).
But as the years went by, the 12GB VRAM started to become a benefit in games.
I ended up using them as my main GPU's for over 8 years until late 2023,
which is the longest i have ever used any GPU.
Only just recently retired them for an RTX 4080 16GB because of newer games.
What started out as a bit of a buyers regret (since the 980 ti was released right after)
ended up becoming one of the best purchases i have ever made.
How many modern games still supported SLI?
It's astounding, how some people will turn objectively bad things into "Oh but it was actully good".
Stop lying to yourself, you've wasted 3000 bucks on cards, which could have spent so much better.
Hell, if you had put 3000 bucks into Nvidia stocks, you would have been a millionaire by now.
@@Orcawhale1 lol, look at this guy trying to ruin people's enjoyment.
seriously, just.... who cares? the purchase is already done (and has been so for 8 years already), and sure, the card is objectively bad, but if one can still enjoy games and things they like with it, why should they care anymore?
it's just like adopting pets, for some people (especially dads), they'd think that they hate the dog/cat/whatever because [objective reason A/B/C...], but after many months or years, they'll end up enjoying the animal's company and love.
@@Orcawhale1 no one cares
@@jamesbrendan5170 If you treat a a inanimate object like a pet, you got major problems, truly.
Am not even saying that to be mean, that's a legitimately sign of insanity.
This is the defination of future proof GPU for 8-9 years.
Something we'll never get from these new GPUs
@@KingVulpesHere I am using RTX 3080 worrying about VRAM usage for newer games as appearantly 10GB VRAM isn't enough for 1440p High-Ultra details.
@@cyclonous6240yeah upgraded from a 10gb 3080 to an RX7900XT and I’ve got no regrets.
@@cyclonous6240 Aside from TLOU remake you are absolutely fine with 10gb for how fast/slow the 3080 core is. You might have to turn textures from ultra to very high in a few games at 1440p, but you'll largely never notice in actual gameplay. the 3070ti with 8gb and the 4060ti with 8gb are about the only trouble cards for having faster cores vs the vram they have.
I replaced my Titan X (2015) a mere three months ago - with a used 2080TI I got as a gift.
My Titan X now happily lives in the PC of my wife, replacing her 970TI she had before.
What can I say, she loves Hogwarts Legacy and the Titan X is enough to play that game on very decent settings at 1080p.
Wake up babe, icerberg just bought a new gpu
"old gpu" xD
The coolers are F*CKING the BEST looking of all coolers
Radeon VII for me, just gorgeous
This and the GTX 690 are some of the best looking nvidia GPUs
@@FalseOracle617 that too! sexy af
They might be but they sure are louder than Krakatoa
@@cryluneMy 1080FE wasn't too loud imo.
This thing had Windows XP official video drivers. Most powerful card works on XP.
for real ? maaan that is crazy cool
Would be laughing my ass off if I saw Roman appear in the comments being "excuse me?!"
What's really striking to me is how higher boost clocks really helped 980 Ti owners out versus this 1089 MHz on the Titan X. Such a low clock speed coupled with a longer pipeline really made the difference. The 1080 has 1 whole mb less than the Titan X so to see such a difference is just amazing. It's the lesson AMD learnt after their Vega disaster, RDNA 1 had less alus but just a better pipeline for gaming, however Vega had the crown on crypto thanks to the massive cache ect. Just interesting to see this play out. Thanks for the video it was insightful and hope all is well cheers
"... mod the hell out of Skyrim..." 26:03
Iceberg knows his audience. :D
I bought into that hype back in 2015, I always remember being awestruck about the performance of the 1070 matching my GPU just 8 months later xD at 1/3 the price too lol
The last gpu I was expecting a review/retrospective of was the titan V. Really looking forward to that review, and great job on the video as usual!
it's crazy that the 'titan' idea (as in performance) started with 90 series cards, evolved into titans, and then devolved back into 90 series cards. I really do hope we get another titan.
I always turn my speakers up just for your intro. Ive always loved your intros!!
As always, congrats to the desperate majority in dire times that brought us these current GPU prices. Thank you!
Lol just came from the Der8auer vids haha that diss at the end was PERFECT!!!! Good info on maxwell top of the line :)
i currently use a titan X maxwell in a core i7 3960x x79 system, i'm impressed with its emulation performance it runs rpcs3 about as good as my ryzen 7 5800x system with a 1080ti , the kicker is i still use windows 7 on my 3960x system so i can't even use the latest version of rpcs3 on that system , long live maxwell gpus still supported in 2024 and going strong
"Cops and corpo thugs, but I repeat myself"
Based af line holy shit
Only in the context of the world of Cyberpunk, of course 😉
@@IcebergTech Ofc, ofc! My favorite V-Tuber Leftberg, UwU.^^
t. radical leftist who calls police after being robbed by a friendly immigrant anyway
This card basically a 980ti with 12gb. Honestly it isn't doing too bad 9 years later.
I bought a 980ti when it came out precisely because it was so close to a Titan X but at $350 less. It held up very well until I upgraded with RDNA 3's release.
What a video! This is why I support you on patreon. Keep it up!
Don't forget to overclock the Titan X Maxwell.
Mine overclocked like a champ, 2200mhz on the core and she would just scream. was nearly 15% in most benchmarks. Ran 92c though even after thermal paste replacement. Coolers have come a long way since then for sure. I also had a golden sample that was a good 3% ahead of most benchmarks at stock (had the EVGA binned version).
He has terrible temps on his Titan, cant even hold 250W all the time.
What's really strange is a year ago, Iceberg Tech reviewed the 980ti. The 980ti is literally a cutdown varient of the Titan X Maxwell, the 980ti even has a lower boost clock and the same TDP!
Yet the 980ti consistently outperformed Titan X. I guess driver support for the titan is dropped earlier.
Looking back at the numbers, the 980Ti won by ~10% in Forza Horizon 5 and ~20% in Cyberpunk. The 980Ti was boosting higher, but not by much - about 70MHz - so it shouldn't really have scored higher, but I think I might have an answer. Cyberpunk has had some big updates, including the Phantom Liberty DLC since my 980Ti review, which probably accounts for the difference. Meanwhile, I don't believe I used TAA in FH5 back then, which might account for the drop in performance compared to the 980Ti.
I'm watching an auction on a 980Ti right now, so if I win I'll retest it to see how it's held up.
30:54 Yeah, the average price of a used Titan Volta finally dipped into my price range mere days before Derbauer's video, which caused them to shoot back for the moon again. Wasn't lucky enough to grab one in time. :(
Really love the video man and I’m even more looking forward to the Titan V. 😮
One interesting thing about the Titan X Maxwell card was that it was actually allowed to have custom models from AIB/board partners and after this generation it was ceased. EVGA had the Titan X SC (Superclocked) with a 13% out of the box OC, it looked the exact same as the NVIDIA Titan X Maxwell card, just pre-binned. They also had a Hydro Copper variant which had a copper waterblock already attached with a 15% OC. It was interesting to see that NVIDIA allowed their partners to mess around with the Titan product line of cards and create custom models. The Titan lineup has always been interesting because although it was always super expensive, it did always have huge VRAM for its time period.
Back in 2015, I'd never thought that 9 years later integrated graphics would match the Titan X everyone talked about back in school, mostly because IGPUs were not a reliable option for low-gaming back then (I think they started to be a low-budget option with the 2nd gen of ryzen CPUs)
Maybe if you're talking about M2 Ultra "integrated GPU".
Because the ARC iGPU in Intel Core Ultra or RDNA3 780M is very far from matching 980 Ti / Titan X Maxwell
but the igpus then matched the insane geforce 7800 gtx that was the talk back in 2005. that's just how things work.
@@raresmacovei8382 bro did you even watch the video 20:22 he literally says the rx 780m got same average fps as the titan x
and whats the point of bringing up intel graphics their igpu’s are only good at display adapters not gaming
@@agab3asbgedsbef479 forza is a bit of special case since horizon 4 i think? Radeon usually faster in that game if you use maxwell or pascal. Nvidia did not really even the gap until turing which support all DX12 features more properly.
3:21 you could argue the 3090 and 4090 ARE the titans tho.
They literally are. I've hear people say it. Not sure if Nvidia have, but it's a ridiculously overpriced card, when then 4080 super will comfortably smash anything you throw at it. It's basically just there so you can say my GPU was £1,700 for no reason. Sounds like a Titan to me!
"Accurately calculated Shadow of the Tomb Raider" That'd be a rocker of a DLC hahaha see what you did there
My thought is that the people who bought this card had the intention of playing a large variety of games at high settings. With that in mind I would imagine that even though that even though over time the performance fell off, the people who bought this card probably felt that they got their moneys worth of gaming with it. Some things don't last forever and when it comes to tech, that statement is more than true, it's inevitable. This card was top of the line, and as a result it was only used by a small percentage of gamers at the time, and I'm sure those people were happy with it at the time.
Back in earlier times (around 2017) these cards were the in-thing for running machine learning models with all that VRAM.
I'm gonna do some clearing of my current subscribed channels. There's some that just aren't doing anything for me.
I don't want to have good content like this amongst stuff I don't care for.
thanks! love the travel through time for games as always :)
the good old 980 Ti Uncut Edtionen
Titan X predates 980Ti by over 3 months.
the uses the same DIe Mate@@Orcawhale1only clocks a down and VRAM
@@Orcawhale1 same chip mate, only lower clocks and less vram and less cores and tmu's and better say the titan x is 3% better then the 980 ti (techpowerup)
@@the_sjdo A cutdown chip isn't the same as the full fat one, so that's wrong.
What's more, it can't be a "uncut" version of 980Ti, when the Titan X predates it.
@@Orcawhale1 the are the same, same GM200 only slight cutted, you can even add the missing 6 GB VRAM on a 980 ti. (hardmod)
9 years old and is only just being pushed out at 1080p for casual gamers. I'd say £1000 for 8 years of use is really good! I had this Titan X... sold it for a 1080Ti two years later :P
Meh, if you get a Titan, you aren't the type to power settings.
@@Intelwinsbigly yeah unless you are jobless TITAN dues have 4090 right now lol🤣
@@turtleneck369 wot
@@Intelwinsbigly people the bought titans back than are wealthy they probably switching then gpus every other year when new high end is released
Selling pieces of Silicon in series offering 1.5x performance for tripple the price is the most Nvidia thing Ive ever heard.
Just looked up the price of used ones out of curiosity, people asking 300-400$ listing it as a 12 gig card, can it even use all 12 Gigs in most games these days? I find SLI interesting but it's tech from before I was super into this stuff.
If 12gb is on 1 PCB on one of the cards, yes, it can use all 12gb. People think memory bus width / bandwidth have anything to do with how much a card can use, which is false. However, there is a difference between using it and using it and having it run fast. That's where mem bw is important@@pptemplar5840
Awesome work on the video, very enjoyable.
Anyone else get a weird perverse pleasure from seeing the former "for the rich only" products get humbled so severely?
2023 really was the year that older cards got their asses handed to them, RIP my poor old 1060. You were brilliant while it lasted.
Iceberg about to open a museum of computing and graphics in the next few decades
want one of these!! thanks for video!!
Prices of GPUs became abysmal these days.
GTX 970 was 35000 tk here. Now a 4070 costs 85000 tk and it's not even that impressive performance wise on current games.
What currency is that? My currency is Złoty but if I want to tell people how to search it I say PLN. Like 1000 PLN is 253 US Dollars
@@Radek494 Taka.
970 was roughly around 320-350$ here depending on model.
And now a 4070 costs 770-780$.
I just gave up on pc gaming and moved on to consoles because of the price.
Aren't console games more expensive though?@@RiasatSalminSami
@@Radek494 No.
@@RiasatSalminSami I mean they literally are. £70 on console and £50-60 on PC but with PC you could get them in other ways off a man with an eye patch or buy the keys half price on G2A or CD keys.; They cost up front is less but with steam sales and just cheaper games it will even out if you use it for a few years. Best thing to do is get a steam deck right now. Console quality experience with all the extra cool shit of PC. Cost less than a PS5 £309 for LCD and £479 for the OLED. and it's portable, and it's a PC. so powerful for the price, doesn't make any sense but I love it.
This cat makes good hardware content, keep this shit up son
Oh yes the loud music again! I always dance on that
I wonder how overclockable the Titan X actually is.
I had a Titan X back in the day and it really was a totally mind blowing experience.
for what reason?
Perfect timing! I am building a Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Vista Ultimate high-performance workstation at the end of the year and intend on getting two Maxwell Titans in it. Just have to tweak the driver files so XP recognizes them!
Is that kind of sorcery even possible?
Your throwaway line at the end about XP gaming is most interesting to me. Is there a video lined up?
Jeez, I would love to see a Titan V review! :D
With this series iceberg i wish you the best of luck trying to get the rtx titan from the 20 series (its a rtx 2090) ive seen those things at about a grand
If you are still running a Titan XM; I presume that your budget has significantly decreased over the years. So these are the GPUs I would go for. This will contain a mixture of used and new.
New:
7600 XT ($320)
4060 Ti 16GB ($410)
7800 XT ($480)
7900 GRE ($550)
Used:
2080 Ti ($330)
3080 12GB ($350) (Don’t go 10GB unless you like shooting yourself in the foot)
3080 Ti ($400)
3090 ($550-$650)
6800 XT ($350)
6900 XT ($490)
I am nostalgic for this card and the maxwell era as a whole, when I got into PC gaming the 1080 ti was the car to have
I reccomend adding Helldivers 2 to the benchmark lineup, it's an actually optimized game that won't make most GPUs commit wattage go boom or melting temperatures as it's a PS5/PC "exclusive" with plenty of dynamic yet consistent scenarios
This was the dream card for 15Y old me. Boy to see it age.
I'm actually really impressed. the fact that it preforms so much better than the rtx 3050 6gb in god of war is hilarious.
One day we’ll be looking at High end Gpus of the 2020s like this
Not until the 2030s
One thing to mention is that it is the fastest gpu that still comes with a DAC so you can use CRTs out of the box with no latency punishment. Still using one for a Sony GDM FW900
Yo old comment but what vga to dvi adapter so you use?
@@toastdtech3597 none. As mentioned the titan x is able to output analog so you can use a simple dvi to VGA cable.
Hey iceberg, I was just thinking, will we ever get VR benchmarks? As a person that plays a lot of vr games (sometimes more than normal games) I was wondering about the performance of some cards since vr benchmarks are surprisingly not that common. Thanks!
What software are you using that shows Vram (alloc) and (util) so specifically? MSI and HWinfo don't separate them like that.
You should check out the 12gb Tesla m40 same specs as the Maxwell Titan X but it's headless but very easy to setup, most sell for around $40usd but I've picked them up as low as $25usd. Definitely not a bad option if you're on a super tight budget.
The whole maxwell series was amazing. I loved my GTX 980. Solid card.
my first gpu that i ever bought for myself was a used pascal Titan X and my god that card was such a step up. I loved it, but i wanted to switch to linux so i gave it to a friend to build a pc and bought a 6700 xt. i also played cyberpunk on my titan x after beating it on my xbox one s. fsr was a champion for that
I'd love to have each of the Titans just for a collection. they're really beautiful cards
I had two of them liquid cooled back in the day in SLI with Asus rampage v and 5960x. Those were some lovely days.
Comparing the Titan X Maxwell to the 780M in Forza was brilliant. You could do a whole video with those comparisons. Hmm...
Can I take just a second to recommend the "Hairworks on everything but Geralt" mod on Nexus. it's the first mod I install every time, and specifically the version that keeps his beard wit hairworks. the monsters with fur aren't the biggest issue with hairworks, it's the higher AA tiers and geralts hair in particular. but I don't like the way his beard looks without it. and the griffon trophy keeps his locks too which is a nice bonus. minimal hit to framerate compared to vanilla hairworks.
great job testing ac origins and witcher 2015, they're basically the most demanding (without being broken) games of their respective years
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awesome benchmark
Thanks for the exhaustive benchmarks! As for me, for less demanding games, even the 970 is still awesome in 2024!
i just got one of these theyre now 125 on cex, i actually could not see one cheaper on ebay, grabbed it because its the best card with xp support via driver modding
As a backup gpu it would not be a terrible option. The key is getting it for a good price. It seems to go for $150-$200 in the current second hand market.
Thanks to this video I remember I have 3 Titans (1 Titan and 2 Titan X Pascal) in my mother's house XD
How dare you say 2015 was 9 years ago ....
I gotta ask... is it throttling? It sure as hell looks like its hitting 83c where boost stops and not maxing out on power
I know these blowers are particularly terrible for noise but the thermal paste seems to be dried or something
i like how resolutions lower than 1080p basically don't exist anymore.
idk if i had this card i'd have no problem using 900p to get a few more fps. heck even 720p is on the table, i don't care
you sir have more Titan X videos than the entire RUclips population combined. 😂
I did play Arkham Knight at launch, which is also why I bought a GTX 970 to get it and Witcher 3 for free. It wasn’t too bad on my PC but I also had the game installed on a SATA SSD instead of a hard drive.
Main issue is some graphical glitches happened but I might also have avoided it if I didn’t play it for so many hours as I did, lol.
On a hard drive and lower tier GPUs it would be unplayable.
I rock 2 of these in my system. I got them for 350 for the pair without shrouds. 2 3d printed shrouds later, and i have the cheapest 24gb of vram money can buy for deep learning. Also, they run gtav at 100 fps on max in 4k.
Hi, what you recommend on £300 budget for T7820 workstation, I would like it to be best bang for you buck, hoping something more workstation based
I remember wanting a Titan so badly, but it was just not feasible on a college kid budget
I’m surprised there wasn’t a way to get a 1.0 version of Arkham Knight on the interwebs somewhere from a third party website and tried testing it out that way..
Used to use this card! Legendary
I know it will sound dumb, but after watching a bunch of videos of older cards since the 900 series, it's shameful how the current GPU scenario is. $200 GPUs now can barely run a 1080P game at ultra/high settings without some kind of help from those upscaling tools. Back in 2014, I really believed that by now we would at least have less expensive cards able to handle 1440p easily
I'm still using a Titan Xpascal, starting to show it's age in some games but still a fairly capable card, got it instead of the 1080ti as they were both the same price used in 2018 😅
not many people know this but hairworks in the witcher is rendered by the cpu not gpu they coded it wrong so it doesnt use the nvidia phyx engine on the gpu but on the cpu
I wonder if they'll retire Maxwell and Pascal driver support at the same time since the architectures are fairly similar. Maybe by 2025 or 2026?
XeSS is very slow because Maxwell doesn't have DP4a instructions and need to use a much slower fallback solution. DP4a were introduced on Pascal.
I kinda want this same ser of games tested on the Steam Deck to see how it runs them, and how it compares to this Titan.
Thanks for including Sleeping Dogs one of my favorites of all time!
Getting a mid range-ish GPU and upgrading every 2 to 4 years is WAY more worth it than getting a very high end gpu and upgrade in 8 to 10 years. It takes about 4 years to a lower mid range to catch up with a very high end gpu, but that comes with many benefits: support to newer techs, lower power comsumption, overall better driver compatibility, and lower price.
600 euros got me the 980ti back then that has lasted to this day, still playing most everything decently at 1080p 50+ fps.
For that price the highest I can get now would be the cheapest 4070 model (non super), an MSI Ventus 2X OC... I don't know about you but I don't expect that 4070 to last even 4 years at this rate meanwhile the 980ti is getting close to 10. Needless to say spending any less that that nowadays on a graphics card is going to provide a horrible return on investment.
You end up paying more in the long run and having to worry about selling and recouping money to spend on the next card every few years, dealing with early driver issues, never quite having the performance to keep you happy for long... At some point the hassle doesn't become worth the money saved now.
@@krixtoreiAnd many new games are trash. The golden era of pc gaming is over.....
got this gpu in 2015 ran it at 1440p 165 overclocked it the entire time as high as itd go did so good for those years till in 2020 i got a new cpu and a titan xp second hand in box
I think that the Titan X could perform better in recent games.
Despite being officially supported with new Game Ready drivers I always wonder whether in reality Nvidia is optimising games to run at their maximum on Maxwell and Pascal or if they are just checking if the game starts and that is it since they have all the interest in the world for people to change old hardware.
Should make video about pascal, as its just 220 in cex currently
man i remember watching linus tech tips showing off the titan X as an "unbelievable" $1000 card. "who would spend that much money on a pc?" I said. well past me, I didn't spend a grand on a gpu, i only spent $850 on a gpu. Who would have thought buying a gt610 would lead me here eventually?
Same here I startet with gtx 570 and now rocking a Asus rog strix rtx 4090 oc. I became totally obsessed with pc hardware just to watch even more hardware videos on RUclips
Love your videos, im not sure how much the Lenovo p520 goes for in your region, but here in the states they are very cheap and very upgradeable, i would love to see you do videos of those with different gaming configuration at lowest to best possible for gaming options and value for gamers on a budget trying to get the most out of there money. Ty sir for your videos
How we got here mainly is 5nm is expensive as fuck and will not be going anywhere any time soon. Now I'm not excusing nvidia over pricing the 4080 and 70-60 and whatever but the 4090 does take around 800-900 dollars to make because of the huge ass die it has (609 mm²).
I think die size is part of why the 2080 Ti was so expensive. TU102 is huge.
How we got here is the same reason why AAA games suck, mindless consumers armed with their parents credit cards.
I sold these cards back in the day, and i can tell you that all of these cards were sold to kids/young adults, who weren't going to use that power.
Most of whom would come back and buy the next card, aswell, because they were addicted to buying new hardware.
@@yasu_red I think people just like to bitch because nvidia does in fact bend people over for GPU prices. However there are some times when the cost of a product is justified. When you butt up close to the reticle limit of any given node and the node is expensive as shit (5nm and any future nodes will be even more so) then yeah you will have cards that cost 1000+ dollars.
And this is coming from me, someone that thinks no one should buy nvidia because fuck them.
big downfall of the maxwell arch was its poor a sync compute performance and low fp32 bandwidth because of it in turn. thats why you saw a quick turn around because nvidia knew gcn would keep chugging as long as it got fed faster and faster memory. gcn 2+ all have amazing a sync performance.... thats why you saw some games on maxwell cards havea huge difference and even more so now with it being implemented more regularly (its also why maxwell sucks in vulkan)