Still Getting WASHED OUT Images? Use These Export Settings To Fix It!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Fix washed out colors when exporting from Davinci Resolve.
In todays gamma shift export settings video, we unveil the ultimate solution to achieving flawless color accuracy in your videos. Join us as we share the latest export settings and expert tips for perfect color grading.
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Table of Contents:
0:00 - Don't you hate when this happens?
0:45 - System Settings
1:57 - Project Settings
3:12 - Timeline Settings
3:35 - My Export Settings and Secret Sauce
5:32 - Why this WORKS!
6:04 - The Results
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The origin of the problem, if anyone is interested is that under NCLC tagging which is the definition standards for which the display function relates to the numbers that are shown in this video. That the 1-2-1 tag which has been recognized as referring to rec709 2.4, actually according to the NCLC - the 2 is "undefined" and there actually isn't any transfer function defined in the list for gamma 2.4.
So Apple Sync that applies the profile is actually showing on a color managed player - rec709 without a display gamma function- which will work out to about gamma 1.96. So grading a 2.4 gamma and then seeing it being played back at around 1.96 = washed out colors and less contrast ).
The Resolve fix to change the meta tags to force Applesync to show their default profile actually doesn't fix the problem - but it gets it closer because 1-1-1 defined by NCLC is reads as :
Color Primaries - 1. ITU=R BT.709 - and
Transfer Function - 1. ITU=R BT.709 * transfer function for display
And Color Matrix - 1 - BT709
Dunna - your example above - not sure where rec709 2.4 is indicated anywhere. My guess is that you are actually seeing and grading to your Mac profile - which on most Macs is gamma 2.2 - which is just fine - especially if you grade in a room that has ambient lighting.
For me I grade in 2.4 - so I have a CST at the end of my timeline that only has the gamma tag set to rec709-a - then of course I also set it in the advanced section on the delivery render. But I use a breakout box to a calibrated display that is rec709 2.4.
I find that any stills ( frame grabs ) have the problem of not using the render tags - so the rec709-a has to be on the setting output for that to work.
It is a big mess for sure. I only commented to explain the reason there is a problem, for some people knowing what causes the problem helps to understand the problem better.
It is also confusing for people that look at non-color managed players like VLC and think that they are correct and Quicktime isn't - but they have independant color management in the player - so you could see a beautiful image in that player and it could look like crap on everybody else's devices. So as a reference - it's not good to use.
So Dunna's fix for the problem is more of a workaround? Still a good way to workaround on this problem that, apparently doesn't have a proper fix yet?
@@ssergiomarques All the fixes are workarounds. There is no actual transfer function for gamma 2.4 - although Windows accepts that.
@@JimRobinson-colors ohh, that’s quite interesting! Does it mean we don’t need workarounds in windows so we can use Rec709 and Gamma 2.4 without problems?
@Jim Robinson Great info dude! Thanks for sharing! To answer your questions, I'm mostly grading on external monitors calibrated to 2.4. I use my macbook monitor as well but never for the heavy color lifting, just for edits and such when I'm on the go (though this set of settings helped a lot with that too just by getting it closer)
Hi Jim, your comment cleared a lot of misinformation that’s been in my brain . Thank you ! Do you have a website or blog or anything I can follow ?
I can't tell you how appreciative I am that you Uploaded this video. It seems like ever RUclipsr says something different about this but you included things both in the beginning and the end of the video that I have not heard elsewhere. I love the color work flow in resolve but that color shift upon export was absolutely driving me nuts! Many thanks, you are gifted as an educator.
Glad I could help! Thank you foe the comment! Don't forget to subscribe and check out my other videos!
U just won my heart on this tutorial. Realized Timeline colospace needed to be changed. Thank you
Ok, This is the one that worked. Others didn't cover the extra steps needed to solve the dull video rendered color. Thank You, 👍🏻
The only video to solve this problem totally for me. After too many videos.. Thanks my man. Subscribed.
I've hit up enough of your videos and found some incredible tips now to hit that subscribe button, keep up the great work!
Just THANK YOU !!! 🤩 This tutorial has been sooo useful !! 🙏🏻
Thank you so much Dunna ! I really admire and appreciate your hard work
I'm looking forward for your next video
Bro, I love you! I watched ton of videos on color management and still couldn't figure out the issue. But this video fixed that small nic. Your way of explaining is also amazing! New sub!
Hugely important tutorial for Resolve users on a Mac. It's the basics, but vital to do on day one. These settings should come as defaults for the Mac version of Resolve, but, crazily, they don't. Big thanks for the video. 👍
Thank you so much for this. Finally getting the colours to export properly is making my heart so very happy now.
As a windows user, I do have a spot under preferences that says "Use Windows display color management and HDR for viewers". I tried clicking that box but it made my entire video very dark. Fortunately, the rest of the settings helped fixed the issue! Thanks for the videos. As a new DaVinci Resolve user, your videos have helped a lot!
Man you just save my life ! Thanks, I watched I don't know how many videos but noting was changing but thanks to you I have the result I want in my export now !
This is something knew, can't wait to try it out. Thanks for this video😎
Saved my butt man. Will definitely be coming back to your channel.
Perfect timing. I was bummed my stuff looked so great in Resolve, but the rendered video looked pretty craptacular. Now it looks more like what I shot and edited. Just subscribed. Thanks man.
I wanted to love Davinci Resolve for the longest time but this gamma shift issue kept me using FCPX. Now I'm finally ready to switch! Thank you for a great explanation :)
For a while I’ve been trying to figure this out with my iPhone footage and I FINALLY DID with your settings!!! Ahhhh thank you!!!!
I’m still benefiting from the original video you posted about Rec709-A and since then all my videos look like they did in Resolve. Crisp, informative and to the point !! As per usual. Thanks once again! Interesting you can change it by timeline I wasn’t aware of that.
Thanks for the kind words Paul! That timeline color space thing is brand spankin new!
You are my man! 🙏🏻 Thanks so much after hours of research it finally worked!
Thansk for a great help in this video. I love the cut-the-crap style of your videos. Cheers!
You are the best! I did not know about the individual timeline color profiles and had an old windows project, so washout colors at export....until now. THANK YOU!!!
Finally a video on the subject that is accurate info and not some voodoo BS or plainly false ! Thank you a lot for your time and effort for helping filmmakers. Those settings should be turned on by default on Resolve OSX version though… I understand the philosophie in DVR is to make it your own and being able to do everything but some simplicity, here and there, like turning on features that 90% of the users would want by default, wouldn’t hurt for the new comers.
FANTASTIC! I always hated the fix it with color grading!
I have to leave a comment to support you and also say how much we all appreciate you sharing this info. Thank you! Great video!
I appreciate that! Thank you!
This was so useful!!! Thank you!
Thank you for this! Helped tremendously!
Dunna... did it again.
An absolute legend, thank you so much man.
Glad to hear it helped! Cheers!
Fantastic video. This is just what I've been looking for. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and super helpful
I needed this!
thank you for this tutorial 🙏
Hey, man, thanks for this video! Whenever reinstalling my Mac or Davinci, I open your video and do as you recommende, that your recommendare effectave amazing effect. It two big difference between with this settings and without it. I'm a new in this, so my videos not looks like yours, but in any case I see big difference. So thanks again and wish you good luck!
You just saved me so much time and effort. Thank you!!
I was going crazy trying to troubleshoot this. Thank you!!
Best video I have seen so far on this, thank you so much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
As always, super helpful! Thanks a ton 👍🏻👍🏻
Happy to help!
Wow! Super helpful. Thank you so much!:)
Thank you so much! Worked perfectly and solved that painful issue for me!
Literally every Mac/Resolve user cheering for this video 🥳🥳🥳👏🏻👏🏻 thanks as always Dunna!!!
This made my year... Thanks dude!
Wow! And it's only February!
thankyou SO much for this, really helped loads!
Hey man, i'm just here to say you're an awesome creator, thanks for your hard work, keep it up.
I appreciate that! Glad I could help!
This video saved me. Many thanks!
I was just editing a video on Mac and couldn't figure out why it looked so bad on export, you're my hero!
This came in clutch!! Thank you!
You're welcome! Don't forget to check out my other videos!
Thank you for sharing this information, it works perfectly well 🙂
Thank you man! that helps me!
Thank you. You saved me. Dunna Did it again!! Subscribing
thanks again for the second time for them algorithms !!!! you a saviour
DUDE. I HAVE BEEN NEEDING THIS
Glad it helped!
Thank you so much! It worked for me.
Thank you. This was THE solution for me.
Nice! Thank you.
Thanks, your video helped me understand a lot of stuff. What's your recommendation for screen recordings (like tutorials) I found that 709-A looks washed in comparison to sRGB, also sRGB looks crispy and similar to the screen. Not sure what to do
*Thanks. It's really helpful*
Glad it was helpful! What was your favorite part?
Awesome, thanks so much!
Happy to help!
Great! Works perfect! Thanks!
You're welcome!
oh dude! I recently when through hell making a custom LUT that kinda did the job, but the results with this are wayyy better!
Killed it!
Thank you for this.
Just tried this out and got a closer rep on my footage. Thanks Dunna!
Amazing!
Perfect timing of this video.
Thats so great to hear! Let me know if you have any questions!
THANK YOUUUUUUUU
Thank you so much for this!!
my pleasure!
Great video! Anyway, I prefer H.265 over H.264 because H.265 is 10bit. Most banding that people see in blue skies does not come from their 8-bit camera but from exporting in 8-bit, namely in H.264. Changing to H.265 solved my banding issues literally with a mouse click.
Absolu8te legend for this
thank you man !!
Thanks a lot! Now it works for me perfect.
You're welcome!
Thank you so much!!!
Excellent video my friend.
Thank you very much!
Thanks!
Thanks for this quick guide! Would love to see a more in-depth explanation of color spaces!
Thanks a lot! Had everything right in the project settings but the old profile was still on the timelines.
great video, lots of nuggets here!
Thank you!
Appreciate the video as always. I am on Windows, which doesn't seem to be plagued by this issue, at least not for anything I've done for SDR. I've been tempted to switch to Mac for FCPX to work with Raw natively, but I reckon I'll either do that or look into getting a proper HDR setup going. I'm liking the idea of HDR not just for the dynamic range but the color as well. Without the proper gear though HDR is truly a nightmare, lol
Sub, like, excellent presentation, so clear and lots of help 👍, thank you !
thank you VERY MUCH !
Hi, Great video and it helped :) Do i need to do this settings for every video? Just went from premiere to davinci :))))) and already started to think to go back
graciasss!!!
omg this saved my life!!! I kept changing project settings and export settings to a bunch of different things and they never worked!!!! The problem was that my timeline settings were already set to rec709 scene, so no matter what i did anywhere, this would fck up everything all the time. Now that i changed it from my timeline settings it worked! finally it worked after weeks and weeks of searching and testing
Nice! Glad to hear it helped!
Definitely want to see a video from you on Color Management and those Color Managed workflows!
Super helpful!
Running into this issue though when round-tripping back into premiere to finish off the project (and then premiere export with the new QuickTime setting) it looks flat 🤔..
I'd assume we bring into premiere as 2.4 Gamma, and regular rec 709 right?
GREAT I will give it a try
Awesome! Good luck!
Thank you very much 🙏
you're welcome!
6:08 The change in color with gamma 2.4 is due to the fact that macOS defaults to a gamma of 2.2 with their displays (not 2.4). It even used to be 1.8 once upon a time.
The washed out color may be due to the fact that the latest Mac displays use the P3 color space instead of Rec.709. Similarly to Adobe RGB it'll look desaturated/washed out when displayed as Rec.709 (without proper color management/metadata).
Nice tutorial. It can really be challenging to find all settings in DaVinci. 😅
u r insane man... just wanted to look up this topic because all those different color spaces are a bit complicated for me sometimes... and then I see ur video *uploaded 5 hours ago*... comes so perfect ;)
Haha that’s too perfect! Did I manage to answer all your questions on the topic?
@@dunnadidit u definitely did! but I have a question u can maybe answer quick... why is my image sometimes noisy in the darker parts even in base iso?
@@its.seangordon most probably under exposure and you are raising the shadows in resolve, you should be overexposing by a stop or two if your camera has a high dynamic range and then lowering the exposure in resolve.
Thanks for this video! Do these settings apply to say something like a wedding video , or something a client may view on a large screen tv?
What if I want to airdrop the video to my iphone? Do I still export as an MP4 or Quicktime?
if I use a Mac Mini with a LG diplay, do I have to check the "use mac display...." setting?
Thank You So Much..
Hi Dunna, Thanks for your video. It is great. I work in my Mac for little things, but for other projects I use and LG Oled C3 in Filmaking Mode. We have a Mac Studio and I am not yet sure of what I am doing it terms of calibrating the TV to be accurate or close to accurate. I am just an enthusiastic teacher who is trying to learn more for a Filming Club I have created for my students. I think the Tv isactually set for HDR at the moment and whatever we are doing, seems to be translating the colour well enough for RUclips Deliverable. We get the washed out issue when uploading though. Would this settings be relevant for working with this Tv as our main monitor or is this only be applicable for Mac Monitors? Thank you in advance
Subscribed! Super helpful video! I’m quite a newbie when it comes edit videos on Davinci Resolve, and I was having the washed out issue for a while and I didn’t know how to solve it, cause I kept seeing the Rec709/Gamma 2.4 export settings in every other video, so many thanks! Quick question, I currently use a MacBook Pro to edit my videos, and then export them and airdrop them to my iPhone. I notice the colours are not exactly identical in both devices, and there’s a colour shift on this. Any chance you might be able to guide me on the right direction for a solution to this issue? Do I need to change the MacBook Pro Display settings or calibrate it somehow?
THE BEST
Really nice explanation. I just tried here and it worked perfectly. The only issue is that it works in my monitor (Apple LED Cinema Display) calibrated to Gamma 2.4. When I watch in another monitor (Apple Studio Display, which uses P3-600nits), or send the video to my boss/client for approval (Macbook Pro) contrast and saturation levels are still totally different. I tried to watch some samples in other devices, like iPhones, and it happens too. It seems like it only works on other Gamma 2.4 calibrated monitors.
Very helpful video. Is there a way to set this as default?? Instead of having to do it for every individual project?
Really helpful, thank you!! Do you know anything about whether to edit with True Tone on or off on Macs?
I definitely recommend turning true tone off. It changes the colors of your monitor based on the ambient light in the room, which seems helpful... but can actually really throw you off if it's not 100% accurate, and I wouldn't trust it to be 100% accurate.
Thnks a lot broooooo
The 'Use MAc color profile...' option is not shown (version 18.5). Is it available only in the Studio version?
This is super helpful! I had awful washed out grades once exporting. But now with these settings when I export, my video is really contrasty and much more yellow than my edit in DaVinci.....I can't seem to win either way for some reason. Any ideas?
Thanks man. I appreciate this, I'm just not sure if it's this simple. I wish it was, and maybe it is, this problem has been bothering me for years as an editor and VFX artist. So, take your exports from your rec709a project into Premiere. Note it all gets darker. Now, we could chalk this up to a Premiere problem... but I'm not ready to do that yet either. Let's say I'm grading in resolve to take it back into Premiere, are all my clips going to be wrong? Do I need an h.264 type setting with rec709a baked in and keep my pores masters at regular rec709? How will the rec709a stuff look on a PC? I don't have one to test. But all these questions are bothering me. Any followup would be greatly appreciated. Maybe we can get some adobe and Blackmagic engineers to way in.
I should mention that Premiere's ultimate look depends on if you have Display color management on or off. With it off, P and R are similar if using rec709a, but not the same. With it on, rec709(not A) files look right in Premiere, the same as resolve.