Claim regions faster than the AI in Manor Lords. 3 regions before 1.5 years!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Showing step by step how mercenaries in combination with clearing camps can get you 3 regions by may of the second year in Manor Lords. The combination is a bit broken in terms of early game military power and growth.
by the way. Sorry about the clicking sounds in the background. It was my gf playing on another computer next to me. Didn't think it would sound that loud.
Here is a much longer guide on early to mid game strategy (without annoying keyboard sound in the background)
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Sorry about the clicking sounds in the background. My gf was playing on another computer next to me. Didn't think it would sound that loud in the recording.
Here is a much longer guide on early to mid game strategy (without annoying keyboard sound in the background)
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Heh, never thought to use the enemy Troups as a distraction to grab the Tents.
I think mercenaries need some changes. Possibly that you only get new ones once every year. To easy to abuse that you can use them and only pay once, then just hire new ones all the time converting something meant as a monthly cost into a one time fee. I did have to pay twice this time. Got unlucky with where the battlefield was against the AI so had to walk quite a bit to get there. Will you be making any Manor Lords content?
@@Ketmo785 I'm honestly still trying to figure out WHAT to make. I was going to do a whole thing about Burgages (since it's kind-of building) but the finicky nature of creating the Plot size just right is difficult to properly replicate in a video tutorial.
I'm all about making things easy for the audience to understand/replicate themselves. Hopefully I can figure something out, I'm addicted to the game.
@@delindsay I'll probably do a m ix of let's plays and guides. But also depends a little on how the videos perform
@@Ketmo785 Fair.
20 soldiers were more than enough to take out bandits. I have taken out with as low as 16… without any casualties and using the rivals army is not a good tactic because you won’t get any influence points unless u attack the bandits with the rivals army.
if you get all the inverimental buffs high moral you can do it with 12 solo with baiting back to your own borders, easiest if you have camp next to your land
Yes, Absolutely. Usually only minimal losses. With a lot of luck zero but usually not more than 1. I play he scenario on the edge quite a lot since I like to see how fast I can reach large town. It's a nice optimization challenge, and no AI there.
To take this further, you don’t want to claim more than 1 extra regions to farm bandits as long as possible. They only spawn in neutral zones
I actually had them spawn in my home zone, the starting zone once. But I think that was a bug. Bandits are right now pure bonus. Strategically it would have been better not to take that third region but it made for a better thumbnail and title to do so :)
Setup additional spearmen militias. If you had 4 spearmen groups, then only 5 men would have left the village (so you'd overall have been much more productive while you ran across the map to snipe the bandit camps).
That is a very nice little trick. It won't work if you end up needing to fight a camp yourself (minimal losses with 20 ..usually 1) but it is very smart
This is why Early Access and Betas exist. So players can trial and error the game and report back to the Devs, or in this case Dev. So the game can improve. Hopefully you have let him know!!!
I will write about it on Manor Lords Discord. But this video ended up with, for my channel being so small, very good traction. So there is probably higher chance he end up seeing the video than the post on discord. I think there are two things. I think there are two things at play here. Bandit camps being a resource rather than a threat. Past extremely early game bandit cams are free influence and money and secondly that you can just ditch mercenaries without any consequence and get new ones very quickly so you only got to pay for a month.
@@Ketmo785 Third one is AI being too op and fast if you don't use these "tricks". Almost impossible to keep up. Obvious best thing to see implemented in the full game would be the enemy on the actual map
@@stenaf From´my understanding that is planned for. Both that and stuff like siege mechanics and city walls
I just grab them as the AI tries to take them because if you defeat him in battle you get the land for free then when I have 4k influence I take both his plots and win the game.
true.. no point in actually buying any yourself at all :)
Now who's the real bandit
This is exactly what I needed to beat that AI bumrusher cuz he just blasts me late game but with mercs and added regionwealth and treasury i finally took his other land
With merc you can go way past the troop limit as well. Late game that is really useful to get a very big army
good video but is there any way for a more chill approach? like just using your own resources and men? I wish they would make the AI take territories at a slower pace.
You can easily take out bandit camps with 20 soldiers. you might lose one. Just make sure the are in good condition when the fight start. There is absolutely no need to push like this to win. I think the dev mentioned tuning down how fast AI takes territories, it will most likely happen in the first patch
@@Ketmo785 ya I'm trying to understand the flow of the game and with how I play the ai gets every territory, then I found your solution which is cool but feels not right because I'm trying to role play :)) but if I role play the AI is too fast so ya looking forward to that patch.
@@GamesExposedI play hyper boomy. Almost hit the 2,000 pop. I put it on conquest and the ai just straight up claimed the whole map and then without a sword drawn claimed my territory and game over 🤦♂️so I just set em to protective for now so I could I boom in peace, cuz that shit suckedd. Just RP that he’s a peaceful duke which makes sense cuz I would way outnumber him 10 times over so why would he want to fight me anyways… now that I’m more familiar with things I’m mightttt set him to him balanced next and figure out how to use defenses but it’s nice this way if your not super into how fast the ai moves, in his current iteration he’s basically the Golden Horde with no base or economy just pulling troops out of his ass from nowhere and conquering everything in sight which is what leads to “cheese” like this strat. Lots of things need to be adjusted so don’t feel bad giving yourself some leeway like I figured a regiment of spears to hold the line would be fine with a couple regiments of bows to whittle em away would be fine at first but even against unarmored bandits I quickly learned your better off stacking as many cheap troops as you can for flanking maneuvers, but fatigue drops effectiveness quick and it being all just a string a melee isn’t super fun sigh where’s my longbows and Calvary? The shock and awe that made everything from napoleon to desert storm so edamn effective…The most powerful unit you can field, the retinue, requires you have some regions already to have the biggest numbers of them so again, you have that problem needing to get regions quick when the ai will do it much quicker… I’m happy I got to try it at least but it definitely needs a bit of work and this is just the military side..on the civilian side at almost 2,000 I noticed ALOT of people just unassigned standing there, it’s hard to transfer resources between regions at first, and you fuck up a region at first no way of getting it back…little shit like that that adds up quick over time. TLDR: the battles need some work and so does alotta of other stuff that punishes you if you don’t play it perfectly so taking some time to really learn the game before full on might be worth it
I beat a group of bandits with about 12 guys. I found high ground, held position to get our cohesion up and won. I then went on to the camp and got mercs for other bandits like you. Point is, it's possible to beat bandits with very few spearmen but it's a risk
yep. Spearmen are much stronger. But even with 20 there is always a risk of loosing 1 or 2 of them.
Ai is too Op playing 3 days till now can't win and lose my base also.i just want my refund but the refund time is gone..one of the shit game wich has too op ai
New patch just went live. Expansion rate of AI is one of the things that is changed. You can also always tune down AI in settings
@@Ketmo785 then its great i even played ai no react but somehow it react also
7:17 Dayum, your troops became Wehrmacht
Can you make a video on how to beat the Barons army? I’m pretty sure you hire mercs so the baron can’t but the fact that you are disbanding make me wonder if the baron will not buy them up?
I haven't had a problem getting new mercs early to mid game and late it is usually enough with own troops + retinue if making sure terrain is to your advantage, like forcing the AI to fight uphill.
man you save me i start from 0 9 times and play for hours he always get land so fast " i wasnt fight bandit every time so that why he keep claiming so fast
Glad it was helpful!
What is difficult ? because in my game, IA have 8x 36 not 3x 36
the 3x 36 is the ones he goes for camp with...if you check the fight for the region at 6:41 you can see that AI got 5 units. I think it scales up with time. So the longer the game goes on the more the AI will have in every engagement. This fight was very early on in the game so that is why he did not have more. Also If I had not waited for the 3 units taking camps to move off map I would have ended up having to fight those as well
Do they not challenge you after you claim it? I claimed a territory pretty early, and at up a decent village. Then they claimed it. Rolled up on me with like 6 or 7 units of 36 troops. Didn't stand a chance.
you can choose the the ai behavior, to not take any land only protec take all the land and save you when its nothing more to take or that you might get attack anytime
This si using just standard settings
Might be randomized? This is standard settings. I have gotten attacked by the AI in my playthroughs. But doesn't seem to be correlated with if I challenged a claim or not.
My current play, I managed to grab 4, well, +3 with just influence. I'm building my 2nd tile up so I can build a 2nd 24 man retinue of armored beasts! Then we start the War! muahahaha
yep. Right now the extra retinue is pretty much the only reason for having multiple towns. I feel like the internal trade needs a re-work to make it easier to trade between villages
I usually run interference in July already with 16 soldiers but I only get 2 camps a season which indicates that you changed the settings initially. Under normal difficulty without any changes I don´t think getting 3 regions is possible within the first 2 years.
It is standard settings. It is a bit random how often camps spawn. So this will not be possible this fast every single game. But most certainly it is with standard settings. Plus, there is no setting to increase how often camps spawn. Only possible to change if camps keep spawning past having 3 on the map at the same time or not. ..and well, amount of initial camps. But I didn't change that either. I got the full playthrough from start to finish to prove it. But without editing would be a pretty boring couple of hours to watch :)
This is hilariously awesome 🤣🤣
it's a workaround for sure, but it feels like cheating to me, I think they just need to rebalance the AI.
One of the issues is that the current design of bandit camps makes them pretty much just free money and influence, and except for extremely early, not really a problem
hahah that's genius
And you cant use any of the territory because you need to build a camp on each section which cost 250 Coin/gold, so you can maybe claim one and then focus on two territories while having an empty third or fourth territory.
I had enough for 1 camp but it is usually enough for 2. I got very unlucky with where my mercenaries spawned in relation to the battle with AI.Of course when recording.... Previously I have been able to fight that battle within the month and not having to pay the mercenaries twice ..and then you have enough for both regions. That said I think there is very little benefit right now to actually building in more than one region due to how internal trade works. The internal trade system needs re work.
Half the time the baron wont take the bandit camp and if another bandit camp is near the other sometimes it will agro the both of them
yep. There is some improvement needed in the AI behaviour. Hopefully Greg, I think that is the devs name, will hire some external help on a lot of stuff to speed up development. He should have the money for it now.
At hard difficulty u dont have any pikemans though)
yep. Then you have to start production of shields and spears a bit earlier, but you just need one to snatch that first tent. ..after that, mercenaries.
al got all my regions how to take it back now 😅
Time for mercenaries and a lot of them, since you can go over the troop limit with mercenaries :)
@@Ketmo785 cant go over limit only 36 troops max 😀
"fat eh gee" bruh you mean fatigue? Fuh Teeg
Most likely.. I am not english native speaker and I don't live in an english speaking country, so I constantly work on my pronunciation. I am also very much aware that there is a reason I need to work on it. I make quite a few mistakes. makes sense it should be pronounced that way thought since it is probably a word originating from french.
@@Ketmo785 hey man not hating. Glad I can help. As a native English speaker (dumb American) I got a kick out of it
@@dewesafavor8275 No worries. I don't mind getting corrected or any other feedback in regards to my videos for that matter. It is a lot easier to improve different skills when people tell you what you do wrong :o)
This guy is a ninja
That definitely earned a sub
Thank you!
lol - most of those type of videos RUIN THE EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME. This game is not meant to be "meta played" or cheesed - omg just chill with the vibes of creating beautiful village
This is a single player game. The beauty of single player games is that people can play the way they want to without affecting the gameplay of someone else. If you want to chill and build a nice town. Great. If you want to play "on the edge scenario" and see how fast you can reach large town, great! ..and if you want to cheese, well cheese. An nothing of that will have an affect on how other people are able to experience and interact with the game. Right now I am playing on the edge on challenging difficulty, just playing as intended, no cheese, but there is zero chill doing that. Smallest mistake in the start and it is pretty much over
I’m ready to demolish this game and any AI in my way!
I finally found the perfect settings for this no off map AI and no raids, perfect for just starting out. My goodness when you have two territories it's almost too much.
Haha awesome! 🎉
Nice video. Thanks! 🙂
Glad you like it!
now do it witouth the camps
well... :o) ...funny that right now the bandit camps makes the game easier, not the other way around.
@@Ketmo785 This strategy seem to require you selecting armament shipment when starting - is it doable without that?
@@TheMithridates It is. But you have to get a blacksmith and maybe a joiners workshop early just to get enough for one single soldier. You don't need more than that to steal the first camp. After that you can just buy mercenaries with the money to get the rest.
The question is how to get more influence. It needs at least 5k more
Donate food production to the church through the manor interface
@@jr8260 do you know what is the math of this donation?
@@alexshefer1187 Simple math, it takes % of your current food in the region every month
@@ОлегБунша thank you man. I will update
@@ОлегБуншаI think the question is how much influence does this earn you? 1 influence per food?
Its also pretty easy to just contest claims of the baron and win the fights then gaining regions that way. No influence needed
It's not for the first several years no. The AI has more troops than you and will get mercenaries if you do
@@CubeInspector I've had success doing it with the game on the default settings and mode. I beat the bandits with just the 20 initial militia and just keep the gold for your ruler and use that to buy up all the mercenaries before contesting the barons claims. He should only show up with the retinue, maybe two sword, one bow, and one thug mercenaries which aren't too hard to defeat but I guess it just depends on what mercenaries are available to you when he makes the claim.
I've also read that if you beat the bandits before he does it drastically slows down the barons rate of making claims.
yep. 20 is enough to beat bandits with minimal losses. It is funny how bandits right now makes the game easier than harder since they are pretty much free gold and influence, and the gold can be easily converted into military power. Even More so since you can get away with paying the mercenaries just for 1 month in most cases