*There was some popping issue with the audio. I spent a couple hours repairing the audio, but you can still hear some issue. I'll have it fixed for later videos :)
And poppy sees nothing wrong with it, she’s either incredibly stupid, or completely brainwashed by titanic and is being abused herself, orrrr just a complete bitch who only cares about money and fame either way I don’t understand why people support her
@@alyssa1960 same...I've been saying this for a while. For the longest I couldn't figure who poppy reminded me of then last year some dude posted about this and I was like OMG she's copying Mars Argo. I lost the little respect I had for poppy. Titanic Sinclair is...I just can't believe he didn't do any jail time for what he did to her. Imagine living in constant fear every day.
Well his name is literally titanic “Sink”clair also find it funny poppy’s music I mean 100% got better after she stopped working with him it really feels like she’s actually producing music she wants to produce
Someone gotta save poppy. She's an asshole in this too don't get me wrong. I can only imagine Mars and Poppy are both victims of his guy's abuse. Poor ladies. Although I really do wish Poppy didn't go along with it, if it wasn't her, he would have found someone else to brainwash.
Some of their songs sound kinda similar, like listen to Time is Up by Poppy (2018 song) and then Save Me by Mars Argo (2011 song). I think it was intentional because Poppy and Titanic probably released Time is Up as a Mars diss, they did it on the date of one of the court hearings. And remember Save Me is produced by Johnny K, not Titanic
So the guy invented a creepy girl and got his girlfriend to play her, he harassed her, they broke up, then he got another girl with which he recreated his girlfriend. That sounds like a plot of a movie, I never would have thought that something like that could happen in real life.
i feel like titanic couldn’t get over the fact that mars argo broke up with him and he was still obsessed with her so he tried to create someone just like her aka poppy to feed his obsession
@@callumb4980 there literally was a lawsuit and pictures included that he broke into her house , sat outside her house , broke her stuff and manipulated her social media lmao what more prove to you need that hes a predator ???
Princessy Jessie 1. an animal that naturally preys on others. "wolves are major predators of rodents" 2. a person or group that ruthlessly exploits others. "a website frequented by sexual predators" a company that tries to take over another. Doesn’t have to be child related at all
My ex did this after we broke up..got her to cut her hair and even got her to wear my old clothes after I left.. When we first started going out he would say a lot of negative comments about my appearance and tried to persuade me to adopt a certain style, cut my hair and dress a certain way. He was a total narcissist, this Titanic guy sounds like a similar personality, especially the controlling of how his girlfriends looked
@@brandonwilson7718lmao so out of touch, she's been releasing music solo now while poppy's ass has been irrelevant for ages now. not even the pandemic could save that grifting career. and titanic is grooming some other chick now LMAO
@@brandonwilson7718if she was reaching for attention she wouldnt have dipped right after filing the lawsuit, she would’ve used the “attention” for her gain dont you think ?
I read the comments before I was halfway through the video so I was wondering what the hell did the ship that sunk have to do with the video 😭😭😭 I'm sorry hhhh
What a piece of shit! These girls need to date men with Balls because if I dated a girl and her ex did something this, someone's going to the hospital and it ain't me!!!
Update: Poppy broke the contract with Titanic Sinclair, and also filed a lawsuit saying that Titanic also abused her physically and mentally. Now, Poppy has made her own songs with her own style and sounds, she is touring some countries (mostly in the USA) and many fans admire her, now she is happy with no one to press her Mars Argo has made an appearance with a "new" song called Angry (I put the word "new" in parentheses since the song had already been leaked years before), also, they changed the name of the channel from "grocerybagdottv" to "shouldicleanmyroom" . With this, she implies that she has planned a comeback with more songs and videos, and all of her fans are eagerly awaiting it. And speaking of Titanic... he keeps uploading "his style of him" videos of him and songs as well, but these don't get as many views and he only has a small portion of fans who continue to support him. So far my report, and also another curious fact: Speaking of situations where Mars Argo was mentioned in Poppy videos, there is a video where Poppy uses the phrase "eveything is going to be a-okay" and a Mars Argo song is called "a-okay" Curious fact that I hope you like it, I invite you to support Mars Argo and Poppy, neither is to blame for what has happened, the only culprit here is Titanic, who manipulated both of them.
IDK, I think the project was an image he had inspired by Brittany Sheets and when they fell out he continued it without her.. I love Mars Argo persona though, it feels more genuine, Poppy is a bit more contrived...
I genuinely pray for Mars’ mental health and peace of mind. To be manipulated, abused, and taunted like that is sickening. Titanic will one day get his karma.
Since this came out in Oct. 2019... Here is an update on what happened since. Poppy sided with Mars. "Poppy later retracted her accusations towards Argo following her public split from Sinclair in December 2019, and alleged that she was a victim of the same psychological abuse Sinclair had inflicted on Argo."
@@greenadewashere Actually Brittany wanted to reinvent herself and make new music under the name Guppy and titanic made a derogatory song about her and called it that so she couldn’t call herself that
Poppy is NOT DIRECTED BY TITANIC SINCLAIR ANYMORE she said he was controlling her and she had enough apparently they were dating to at one point and she suffered abuse from him too. Anyway they broken up now and Poppy makes her own music and doesn’t post those kind of videos anymore she’s doing her own thing and I really like it!
I feel so bad for Mars Argo, Titanic cheated on her then literally ruined her career and life to the the point she had to hide and move away, leave all of her social medias and stop making music, all while he was mocking her with a replica showing how easily replaceable she was and how she needed him. like he blocked any opportunity she had to continue her career and tried to remove all her friends from her life, the thing she needed was to not have him in her life but yet he still thinks she didn't make it because she didn't have him... he needs serious help and I hope Mars is doing better now and healing. I will never support anything he ever does or has a part in creating
Aleesha Yes, this whole thing seems like Sinclair‘s petty way of getting revenge and hurting Argo. I don’t know if Poppy/Mariah has anything to do with this. She could be being used by Sinclair as well. If Sinclair was abusive with Argo, couldn’t he be with Poppy/Mariah?
I'm glad I watched this video because I had NO idea about any of this and now I know Poppy and her manager are just stalking bullies. I never liked Poppy but now I'm purposefully avoiding them.
@@callumb4980 he deleted 12.000 tweets that mentioned her. It doesnt matter that some of them were posted before they broke up , he tweeted about her 12.000 times! Thats not normal.
@@callumb4980 he was asked to delete every tweet mentioning her. The fact that he found it easier to delete 12k tweets before a certain date rather than every tweet specifically mentioning her is not to his benefit.
@@callumb4980 The evidence shows that he was more than just controlling. The number of the tweets is hardly an issue compared to the nature of what he said. Callum, if you are tweeting a long time after your relationship has ended, disturbing cartoons about missing your ex-girlfriend's mother, then you are a sick fuck pure and simple. You are not "controlling", you are not a victim; fucking get help.
The fact that the three still reference each other in their songs- Poppy's "Her" is about how Titanic made Poppy from Mars as a copy and how disposable they were to him, Titanic's "Pixie Chick" is satirizing how women can be an image on the internet and not be called out for being pretentious and can get away with stuff he otherwise wouldn't, and Mar's "I Can Only be Me" is about her identity and how it was taken from her and given to Poppy, but she can keep it because she had shed that identity and is a new person. Very interesting stuff, but also very sad
To everyone wondering how I know this: The movie comes from her IMDB page. She was added in the credits. The album is not confirmed, but she's hinted at it. On Instagram, a fan said, "@marsargo, like this if you are making an album this year." She liked it. On her Tumblr, a fan asked what kind of content she'll be uploading to RUclips when she returns. She responded, "You'll see".
This isn't even a theory? That's an objective fact of the whole situation? That's like saying THEORY: MARS ARGO STOPPED MAKING VIDEOS. Watch the video before you say something.
Same that's exactly why I subscribed, so shocking to me we had the same exact thoughts. Also the atmosphere he makes with music, and jokes keep me here.
now I want to see if you caught up with this story. Poppy ended up doing the same thing and split from Titanic and claimed he groomed her, manipulated her and physically and mentally abused her. She took her Poppy persona, dyed her hair black, donned a goth-bjork look and started acting more like a human and less perfect AI. She and Titanic are not in contact with each other anymore which makes all the allegations actually look legit.
I honestly don't give a shit about the background drama. Poppy's music is good so that's all I care for. And Poppy has become way more than what Mars ever was. Mars and Titanic just made some smaller stuff that was very simple and at this point, Poppy isn't even really like that anymore. Her videos are a lot more dark and her music has become pop metal.
It's worth noting, that as of 2023, Mars Argo is back (to some extent). She released a song in 2022 and 2023, both released on her RUclips channel and Spotify and they're very good! Here's to hoping she can find her place once more and thrive
*Update: Poppy cut ties with Titanic. She also made similar accusations as Mars Argo did. Poppy also said that Titanic was very manipulative and used suicide as a way if manipulation... I'm just glad Moriah broke free from this man, although; I'm worried his gonna find another young vulnerable girl to take advantage.
I'm I the only one that can't imagine how threatening suicide can control anyone? Like "If you do this thing I don't want you to do, I'll kill myself." Like am I just heartless? I'd be like. "Well don't make a mess when you do it." and peace the fuck out. I guess if that threat works, the person has been majorly manipulated into thinking that would be a bad thing, and perhaps their fault.
@@nakoda787 I am not sure when exactly but a while. If you are curious about the details I recommend you to look up, there are a few videos that have been made.
Good thing Poppy and Titanic Sinclair are separated professionally now. She's under a different label and doesn't credit Titanic in her videos anymore.
@@ratssstick Agree with you, a lot of people defend her and claim she's a victim too, but she knew what she was doing and even mocked Mars Argo's statements. At the end she gained all the fame and money that belonged to the other girl. She agreed to steal the concept and image, even is she's adding her own ideas, it's still a shady thing to do. The only good thing about this is that Mars Argo is gonna appear in a movie next year.
There are many good people it’s just a few bad apples that ruin the whole image. Don’t worry, I’m positive you will find someone who loves you for you and treats you right ❤️
@@kristinwhite4472 First off, it's a joke. Second, they may be aromantic (or asexual) or just not like the idea of dating/etc. I'm not trying to be rude btw, cause that's a very inspiring and thoughtful comment ♡ just trying to inform :)
I really love Mars Argo and I’ve been listening to her music a lot recently. I hope she comes back, her fan base is still growing. And we all believe her.
@@Tyronejizz Titanic. He's the abuser/problem child here, no? Poppy does have responsibility in the matter but stupid girls do stupid things for stupid men, she'll get hers one day I'm sure.
Nah. I watched poppy back around 2015-2016 and mars Argo was talked about a ton back then. We just didn’t know half the shit that was covered in this video
@@blazereho811 That's the thing- she was only spoken about because of Poppy and Titanic. Her identity as an individual artist was stripped away, only to be seen as a look upon the dark history that led to her abusers fame
I feel like Mars was... beautifully her own. She always felt more genuine and odd naturally. And I think Sinclair took that and made poppy into a mini Mars out of spite to prove Argo she could be replaced.
chasethetuna Tbh with you, I don't think Poppy's whole gig was a ripoff. She was meant to be some sort of robot/illuminati puppet character. Mars was never trying to be that. I think most of the aesthetic similarities just come down to them both being directed by Titanic. Saying Mars did it better just isn't really a good equivalence. But that doesn't mean Titanic didn't try to abuse Mars through it, and Poppy knew that full well.
bunnie I agree with the first half but poppy was manipulated and emotionally abused by him. He would literally tell her he would end his own life if she ever left him
Dude literly I was scrolling through the comments while watching and when that clip came on I scrolled up trying to get rid of it even though it wouldn't work I was just creeped out
I’m glad to see poppy is out of that situation as well. She is also a victim, she is still responsible for some of the things she did to Mars but Sinclair is to blame for all of this
At "best", Poppy was so traumatized by her relationship with Titanic Sinclair she became a bad person because of it. She broke up with him in 2019 yet released what appears to be a Mars Argo diss track in 2020. Whatever she was like before her relationship with Titanic Sinclair, she's still a bad person NOW.
@@PhilipWesterwhat diss song are you referring to? If it’s the one I’m thinking of, Anything Like Me, it’s about her breaking away from the Poppy persona but still feeling it inside of her and wanting to let go of it but feeling like she can’t. It’s not about Mars
she also talked trash about mars argo, she knew what she was doing and is not being made accountable for her actions because she claimed victimhood when she realised she was losing public opinion
Poppy also has a song called "Hard Feelings" and some of the lyrics are "Am I a replica of someone that you loved (someone you made me to replace) " which is probably a reference to Mars Argo
A lot of Poppy's news songs are not produced by Sinclair. Honestly I think she is becoming more independent and leaving that toxic mess behind. But people for some reason refuse to see that. She most likely has a contract like any other artist. I don't think she's a bad person.
Birthday Waffles just because you get punched doesn't mean there's any marks.i was abused for years and I never ran to a camera and tried to get proof. I'm guessing you never been abused.
poppy and titanic aren’t working together anymore, by the way. they unfollowed each other on instagram, and he deleted most of his pictures with her. surprised that no one’s talking about this, it happened like 2 weeks ago. update: poppy just made a statement today confirming that she left titanic, and also revealed that she experienced similar abuse/manipulation to what mars argo went through. PSA: please don’t support titanic sinclair or any of his future endeavors. he is an abuser.
Damnnn that’s great. He gets what he deserves. Poppy keeps the fame she worked for and he gets dropped off just like he did to poor Mars. And Mars is coming out with an album and starting in a movie next year 💜
Ah thank you for posting. I was checking up on his social media and I'm finding stuff out too. I think it was way too soon to say "why didn't he get canceled like the others?" because it looks like it has happened and he's getting what he deserves.
And now Mars Argo has returned and is making great music again. It’s kind of amazing how Mars Argo was so silent for years and she finally acknowledged what was going on in music. And now both Poppy and Mars Argo are putting their experience and anger from what happened into their music. I would love to see them collaborate on a song.
I find it so odd that Poppy is supposed to be a representation of how disposable and replaceable celebrities/influencers are, while Poppy was a replacement for Mars Argo. I feel like the whole character was meant to taunt Mars and Poppy unknowingly signed up for this. I mean idk, Poppy could know, but either way this character is definitely some form of copying.
It's so on the nose and *"*aesthetic*"* that the obvious assumption would be that it's a metaphor. In reality it was just the literal thing describing itself.
is kinf of a 50 50, from a point of view you can say that poppy is just a copy of Mars, but .... in another point of view, Titanic was the creator of the character, so....and the one giving instructions of how to act, so you can say that this is just his style ?. but knowing that he was a bad guy and cheater, make you feel that need to say is just a copy because you want to be team Mars (or at least thats the way I felt). but in an objective view he just copy himself o_o . (sorry 4 the bad English, is not my native language)
Coming from a person with experience in an abusive relationship, I totally get it. She didn't document getting punched because she was too busy getting punched and then fled to Japan to get away from his a**. Poppy needs to get away from this creep too.
She got away from that creep since technically 2020(during I disagree). Poppy, as since directed multiple music videos and as reference the situation in multiple songs such as "Never find my place." I'm so glad they both(Mars Argo and Poppy)got away from him. I'd like to think that Poppy and Mars Argo have forgiven each other and are now friends.
I wouldn't say poppy copied Mars Argo. More like Titanic dude was obsessed with Mars Argo and tried to turn poppy into her. If they start dating in the future, you'll know why.
Honestly the fact that he probably did try to turn poppy into Mars Argo- Just hearing the part in the story when he said he could easily replace her makes me agree
She's been kind of out of character in recent times, it seems like Moriah is being inserted into the persona in some form now, more than previously at least.
They're both lucky to be alive. He's the creepy guy your family warns you about.. I would think the first red flag was his name being Titanic. That never ends well. He can call himself an artist, but at the end of the day, he's an abusive narcissist. He doesn't care about the women, they're just props to him.
About a month after you released this Poppy and Sinclair split and 'surprise' Poppy had some stories of her own to tell including how she was abused by Sinclair just like Mars Argo had been.
The scary thing about Poppy responding like she did is the possibility that Titanic could be forcing her to do it. If Mars was manipulated and abused in the way that she said she was, I can only imagine how he's treating Poppy.
Its probably worse seeing as poppy isnt the real product he is obsessed over. Margo is. Poppy is probably being treated worse because she is just the copy.
I remember when all this transpired and I was really put off by Poppy’s reaction to the allegations. Most of the lawsuit was directed at Titanic Sinclair so its really weird how she made it into this personal attack against her
Why I like your videos: - actually quality content - you aren't rude to anyone - you tell us actual information - you don't make drama out of nothing 💗💗
12:30 : I have to say, I had an abusive ex who wanted to stop me from going to Japan at all costs as well; he became more and more desperate as the time of my departure became imminent. If I hadn't left...I don't know. I do know I was able to end it with the space between us, and he KNEW that- thus the desperation, threats, etc. I didn't want people to know, I didn't want to *believe* it was that bad, if that makes sense...some things you don't document because they completely unhinge your, your faith in yourself and others, love, everything. Pictures don't seem so important when you life as you known it has just shattered. This seems very familiar. Does her story make a little more sense now?
i dated someone like Titanic Sinclair. they have damn near identical mannerisms too, and my ex is genuinely the most awful person I’ve ever met. i feel sooo bad for Mars Argo. edit: i’m sorry you guys had to go thru similar situations. nobody deserves to be treated like that. 🤍
Unfortunately, I did too. It took me so long to get away from him. So sorry you had to deal with that bullshit. I hope this girl gets what she's looking for. 🖤✨
This is well written and fairly objective, and it holds up for what info you had at the time. I appreciate it. It would be interesting to get an update video regarding Poppy's split from Titanic and her statement about that, and the ensuing drama.
the fact that poppy went out of her way to say that the abuse that mars endured was not real, claimed that she had been abused, faked being hurt by a lawsuit, and then denied allegations makes me so angry
@@Ri_5475 That's because Poppy and Mars Argo were under the influence of Titanic. Overall, he's a creepy and sick dude. Poppy is back to being herself and is no longer that creepy soulless robot.
what is this line from I can hear it in my head but can’t pin it lmfaoooo “what a horrible little man” OHMYGOD NEVERMIND it’s Star Trek I’m such a nerd I’m probably the only one in the world who remembers it 💀
You should’ve updated the story, poppy exposed titanic and confirmed he was abusive and he treated her the same way he treated mars, he even controlled poppy to make her copy mars and now she broke free and releases alternative metal which is the music she likes, she even uses her real name every now and then
It seems to me this Titanic dude was bitter about Mars leaving him and no longer giving him control over her so he slipped on over and created a little mini me so he could have her without having her... it’s all kinda creepy...
Wow.. i wake up to 200 upvotes.. so relieved I'm not the only one who noticed the pattern.. i thought it was a pretty old reference but it appears this a-hole has seared his perverted narcissism in our collective memories..
@@sirashley2355 It's not really being "so quick to judge", when we have near definite proof that he has a huge history of abuse, and obsessiveness. It's more along the lines of using information we know to make an educated assumption with much evidence to back it up. That being said, nobody truly knows what is happening.
That terrifying little baby’s ice cream commercial made me not want to ever eat any ice cream again, let alone their brand. I don’t know how that is an effective marketing tool
I think the creepiness of the ad calls attention to it, reaching a lot more people than a normal ad would, and many of these people may also try the ice cream given the opportunity. Only a small amount of people would know of little babies ice cream otherwise, but due to the ad many more know about it, don't they?
I don't how the way the lady is covered ice cream and just stares at you for seconds while the creepy narrator talks about "LITTLE BABY'S ICE CREAM" like he is whispering in your ear being like, "You like the taste of flavor do YOU?".
It's effective because it made their unknown brand go viral and while some people react like you did, others will say, "That was really weird and disturbing. I wonder what kind of ice cream a company like that makes. I wanna try it."
*There was some popping issue with the audio. I spent a couple hours repairing the audio, but you can still hear some issue. I'll have it fixed for later videos :)
Primink ok cutie
That's Poppy cursing the video 😂 She doesn't even do anything but put popping sounds over your audio.
"Not when your watching me though" ONLY when I'm watching you b 😈
"Popping issues"
Its popping Its popping Its popping
"5 years later, Poppy sues Titanic for psychological abuse"
Will not be surprised.
This is creepy.
they actually already split and poppy made a statement claiming similar treatments of abuse Mars did.
wow. I'm so behind of the times lol. Thankies for the heads up!
flayful odd..
and it happened lmaooo
she already disowned him and made a statement, she was a victim too
Imagine being so obsessed that you take an entirely different girl and make her exactly like your ex..... yikes.
OOF!!
And poppy sees nothing wrong with it, she’s either incredibly stupid, or completely brainwashed by titanic and is being abused herself, orrrr just a complete bitch who only cares about money and fame either way I don’t understand why people support her
@@alyssa1960 same...I've been saying this for a while. For the longest I couldn't figure who poppy reminded me of then last year some dude posted about this and I was like OMG she's copying Mars Argo. I lost the little respect I had for poppy. Titanic Sinclair is...I just can't believe he didn't do any jail time for what he did to her. Imagine living in constant fear every day.
Its just a character... Poppy and Mars Argo are CHARACTERS made by Titanic Sinclair.
@@alyssa1960 she just wants fame! such a sad rip off and poppy doesn't care who she steals from lol.
The guy is named Titanic you can’t expect his life not to sink
underrated comment check!!!
Well his name is literally titanic “Sink”clair also find it funny poppy’s music I mean 100% got better after she stopped working with him it really feels like she’s actually producing music she wants to produce
I gave you 666 likes
He’s taking everyone down with him 😂
I was your I got your comment to 1k likes!
OwO
999 was getting on my OCD ;w;”
The way he said he could replace her any time and then he straight up DID, that's a bit chilling tbh.
Of for sure he's a great director and great marketer just a terrible fucking person
You could say that Mars was on a sinking ship *wink wink*.
He has "replaced" poppy too
@@x_void_princess_x?!? Do spill the tea
@@chatnoir9038 new girl made her like poppy what more can I say
Nothing like a crazy, anger fuelled ex that makes a girl look just like you and then gets her to copy all your music and personality.
Tale as old as time. :')
Someone gotta save poppy. She's an asshole in this too don't get me wrong. I can only imagine Mars and Poppy are both victims of his guy's abuse. Poor ladies. Although I really do wish Poppy didn't go along with it, if it wasn't her, he would have found someone else to brainwash.
Some of their songs sound kinda similar, like listen to Time is Up by Poppy (2018 song) and then Save Me by Mars Argo (2011 song). I think it was intentional because Poppy and Titanic probably released Time is Up as a Mars diss, they did it on the date of one of the court hearings. And remember Save Me is produced by Johnny K, not Titanic
This is some Onision crossed with Single White Female type of shit.
Night Time are you fucking dumb? diplo produced time is up. it's literally a coincidence.. i-
So the guy invented a creepy girl and got his girlfriend to play her, he harassed her, they broke up, then he got another girl with which he recreated his girlfriend. That sounds like a plot of a movie, I never would have thought that something like that could happen in real life.
Well, reality is sometimes stranger than fiction
@Nicola Weinbacher I will.
@@FearsomeVoid You won't regret it! Its a very good story and even has a sequel
well now poppy split up with Tit*nic because he was very abusive. and whats even worse - TS has another gf who dyed ger hair from brunette to blonde
that's so like a psychopath
He looks like this drunk dude that flirts on a club by whispering on your ear: "You are art"
Darling Darling PFFT-
Darling Darling *gross shivers*
I thought u say fart or fat sorry lol
Oh god gross
Ugggghhhh fuuuck bleghh
They even look similar. He literally wanted to turn his girlfriends into robots he could control.
He was still stuck on mars and tried to make poppy into her weirdo he’s sick
i feel like titanic couldn’t get over the fact that mars argo broke up with him and he was still obsessed with her so he tried to create someone just like her aka poppy to feed his obsession
Ikr it like there his dolls or something
Wow-
Literally
Hi army
Oof. That's crazy.
Titanic Sinclair is a complete creep. He's a predator, end of.
"Why don't you take a seet over there"
The Falling Dream nah he is InNoCeNt
@@callumb4980 there literally was a lawsuit and pictures included that he broke into her house , sat outside her house , broke her stuff and manipulated her social media lmao what more prove to you need that hes a predator ???
Princessy Jessie 1.
an animal that naturally preys on others.
"wolves are major predators of rodents"
2.
a person or group that ruthlessly exploits others.
"a website frequented by sexual predators"
a company that tries to take over another.
Doesn’t have to be child related at all
@@jessicac8005 what they're referring to is a predatorial person, i.e. someone who preys upon other people, not necessarily a 'child predator,'
So creepy that he would essentially create a carbon copy of his girlfriend after they broke up.
Pumpkin God I see you everywhere ...
ღAzuʟღ We must have similar taste in videos then
Pumpkin God I agree
My ex did this after we broke up..got her to cut her hair and even got her to wear my old clothes after I left.. When we first started going out he would say a lot of negative comments about my appearance and tried to persuade me to adopt a certain style, cut my hair and dress a certain way. He was a total narcissist, this Titanic guy sounds like a similar personality, especially the controlling of how his girlfriends looked
I see this often. And honestly my own husband when we separated he started hanging out with my twin. 🙄 i don't get it but i get it 🤷♀️
I find it hilarious that Mars just appeared out of nowhere to file a lawsuit. Pop off queen drag the old man
and then she went back into hiding LMAOO that's iconic
> files lawsuit against weirdo
> elaborates
> leaves
Absolute icon
Someone wasn't getting enough attention 😂🤣 aww sorry, is Using You not good enough to merit a career? We have enough Weezer wannabe bands as it is.
@@brandonwilson7718lmao so out of touch, she's been releasing music solo now while poppy's ass has been irrelevant for ages now. not even the pandemic could save that grifting career. and titanic is grooming some other chick now LMAO
@@brandonwilson7718if she was reaching for attention she wouldnt have dipped right after filing the lawsuit, she would’ve used the “attention” for her gain dont you think ?
dude just recreated his ex girlfriend, what a creep
I'm not siding with him AT ALL but maybe he thought he could fix the past
Exactly
@Liiyahh Two i get where your coming from but some people just dont see it that way they recreate the pain to feel better its confusing to explain
What an incel amirite?
Actually true boiis
I'm disappointed that Titanic was never arrested for breaking & entering, plus all the other creepy stalker shit he committed.
yea seriously! Like what the fuck????
like mars had proper evidence and they didn’t do them 😤
I read the comments before I was halfway through the video so I was wondering what the hell did the ship that sunk have to do with the video 😭😭😭 I'm sorry hhhh
IKR LIKE WHAT THE F***
Same. And after all of that, Poppy retracted her statements and accused Titanic of doing the same shit to her.. smh 🤦🏽♀️
You forgot the part that Titanic broke into Argos home and stole her clothes and then later Poppy wears them in a video
That happened? That’s so messed up and creepy
@@trish1238 wow
Dude. Ugh.
That's.... really creepy.
What a piece of shit! These girls need to date men with Balls because if I dated a girl and her ex did something this, someone's going to the hospital and it ain't me!!!
Update: Poppy broke the contract with Titanic Sinclair, and also filed a lawsuit saying that Titanic also abused her physically and mentally.
Now, Poppy has made her own songs with her own style and sounds, she is touring some countries (mostly in the USA) and many fans admire her, now she is happy with no one to press her
Mars Argo has made an appearance with a "new" song called Angry (I put the word "new" in parentheses since the song had already been leaked years before), also, they changed the name of the channel from "grocerybagdottv" to "shouldicleanmyroom" .
With this, she implies that she has planned a comeback with more songs and videos, and all of her fans are eagerly awaiting it.
And speaking of Titanic... he keeps uploading "his style of him" videos of him and songs as well, but these don't get as many views and he only has a small portion of fans who continue to support him.
So far my report, and also another curious fact:
Speaking of situations where Mars Argo was mentioned in Poppy videos, there is a video where Poppy uses the phrase "eveything is going to be a-okay" and a Mars Argo song is called "a-okay"
Curious fact that I hope you like it, I invite you to support Mars Argo and Poppy, neither is to blame for what has happened, the only culprit here is Titanic, who manipulated both of them.
This is an interview with Sinclair's brother, worth a watch ruclips.net/video/HMWGt2wU13Q/видео.html
Was Shane Dawson in one of the clips with her?? It just looked like him is all lol😅
Thank u so much for the update
also mars uploaded a new song few months ago
@@LoserBug420yeah that’s shane
When your boyfriend coverts you into his ex's twin because he's so butt hurt from the break up!Priceless!
Which is kinda weird, because, and I may be remembering incorrectly, Poppy was underage when they all met.
@@WhimsicalNessa hipster Onision?
@@halogirl916 стоп с онисион!
IDK, I think the project was an image he had inspired by Brittany Sheets and when they fell out he continued it without her.. I love Mars Argo persona though, it feels more genuine, Poppy is a bit more contrived...
Monika Nikolova
Then you file a false lawsuit to get attention back because youre talentless on your own
I genuinely pray for Mars’ mental health and peace of mind. To be manipulated, abused, and taunted like that is sickening. Titanic will one day get his karma.
I kinda pray for titanics mental health bc.. hes crazyyyyy 😭
Hopefully
lmao... "karma"? he should be in jail.
Agreed and I lost all respect for poppy for condoning and DEFENDING that shit
Poppy recently released a statement backing up Mars Argo's claims and disavowing Titanic! Would love to see an update.
Do you have a link??
@@lauriemegan Edwins Generation made a video about that and the whole rabbit hole. There's a bit more to the story, but Poppy is an awful person.
Check out the recent episode of "In the dark: My Valentine"....just saying
Megan Laurie link for anyone who’s interested: mobile.twitter.com/poppy/status/1211006950160269313
@@lukefrew631 don't. It's a third party capitalizing on someone's trauma
Since this came out in Oct. 2019... Here is an update on what happened since. Poppy sided with Mars. "Poppy later retracted her accusations towards Argo following her public split from Sinclair in December 2019, and alleged that she was a victim of the same psychological abuse Sinclair had inflicted on Argo."
Thank you for this!!
she never sided with mars argo she just claimed herself a victim
Update: mars argo is releasing music again!! Check out her new stuff, it‘s so good!
Sounds to me like Mars Argo didn't give a crap about the money... She just wanted control of her own life and body back.
She herself comes from a wealthy family so she doesn’t need ut
it was the principle of the thing she was after
@@guppy9161 ok "guppy" wait.....I think I heard that name before....oh the name of titanic's song hating on mars
@@greenadewashere Actually Brittany wanted to reinvent herself and make new music under the name Guppy and titanic made a derogatory song about her and called it that so she couldn’t call herself that
@@guppy9161 Yeah yeah no need to over explain something that's already been mentioned in the video
Just like his name, Titanic is such a tragedy.
And a psychopath
LOL
This is an underrated comment.
Not to mention a failure
He also hit a iceberg.
mom: what are you reading?
me: oh just a 50 page long lawsuit
Law students be like
Mom: What's it about?
Me: Let me switch to porn, it's easier to explain.
Yeyeyeyeyy, am your 2,000 comment's liker!!!! Yeyeyeyeyeyy
Ngl, I’m thirteen and my mum had me read their incredibly long and detailed lawsuit thing lmao
Now that you mentioned that. I suddenly have the urge to read it as well so.....bye~ I mah read it now
Poppy is NOT DIRECTED BY TITANIC SINCLAIR ANYMORE she said he was controlling her and she had enough apparently they were dating to at one point and she suffered abuse from him too. Anyway they broken up now and Poppy makes her own music and doesn’t post those kind of videos anymore she’s doing her own thing and I really like it!
I feel so bad for Mars Argo, Titanic cheated on her then literally ruined her career and life to the the point she had to hide and move away, leave all of her social medias and stop making music, all while he was mocking her with a replica showing how easily replaceable she was and how she needed him. like he blocked any opportunity she had to continue her career and tried to remove all her friends from her life, the thing she needed was to not have him in her life but yet he still thinks she didn't make it because she didn't have him... he needs serious help and I hope Mars is doing better now and healing. I will never support anything he ever does or has a part in creating
Aleesha Yes, this whole thing seems like Sinclair‘s petty way of getting revenge and hurting Argo. I don’t know if Poppy/Mariah has anything to do with this. She could be being used by Sinclair as well. If Sinclair was abusive with Argo, couldn’t he be with Poppy/Mariah?
I'm glad I watched this video because I had NO idea about any of this and now I know Poppy and her manager are just stalking bullies. I never liked Poppy but now I'm purposefully avoiding them.
it's highly possible he cheated on her with poppy
She is doing a lot betterr rnow her real name is Brittney Sheets and she has confirmed that she will again release music one day
Same.
Who would defend this guy at all, he is a stalker literally tweeted about her 12,000 times tf
for real though
I wouldn't support him, I support his art though.
@@callumb4980 he deleted 12.000 tweets that mentioned her. It doesnt matter that some of them were posted before they broke up , he tweeted about her 12.000 times! Thats not normal.
@@callumb4980 he was asked to delete every tweet mentioning her. The fact that he found it easier to delete 12k tweets before a certain date rather than every tweet specifically mentioning her is not to his benefit.
@@callumb4980 The evidence shows that he was more than just controlling. The number of the tweets is hardly an issue compared to the nature of what he said. Callum, if you are tweeting a long time after your relationship has ended, disturbing cartoons about missing your ex-girlfriend's mother, then you are a sick fuck pure and simple. You are not "controlling", you are not a victim; fucking get help.
If you call yourself Titanic you’re asking to be a mess
Sara Katherine that’s not his real name?
a “wreck” if you will
Mason RobertsTV That’s the point he chose to be called that
@@universe514 i love u.
Dustpanda Music Aaaahhh that makes sense, my bad. It’s hard to figure out if someone is being sarcastic without hearing the tone of their voice.
The fact that the three still reference each other in their songs- Poppy's "Her" is about how Titanic made Poppy from Mars as a copy and how disposable they were to him, Titanic's "Pixie Chick" is satirizing how women can be an image on the internet and not be called out for being pretentious and can get away with stuff he otherwise wouldn't, and Mar's "I Can Only be Me" is about her identity and how it was taken from her and given to Poppy, but she can keep it because she had shed that identity and is a new person. Very interesting stuff, but also very sad
Mars is actually coming back. She'll be in a movie called "American Dinner" in 2020. She's also hinted at a new album.
How'd you find out?
Keep me updated man
Cause I haven’t heard any of this
To everyone wondering how I know this:
The movie comes from her IMDB page. She was added in the credits.
The album is not confirmed, but she's hinted at it. On Instagram, a fan said, "@marsargo, like this if you are making an album this year." She liked it. On her Tumblr, a fan asked what kind of content she'll be uploading to RUclips when she returns. She responded, "You'll see".
I thought mars shot herself....
*theory:*
titanic was so obsessed with mars argo that after they broke up and he met poppy, he tried to turn her into another mars argo.
@shane ruclips.net/video/h-UZpM3C-T4/видео.html you'll get even more clout
I mean obviously
its not theory its for real
This isn't even a theory? That's an objective fact of the whole situation? That's like saying THEORY: MARS ARGO STOPPED MAKING VIDEOS. Watch the video before you say something.
Thats not a theory. Thats literally what the entire video was about..
I honestly love this guy. He explains things so detailed without being rude. I loved how he talked about Breland. Props to this dude.
I thought you were talking about titanic sinclair and i was like 👁👄👁
Same 🥺
Same that's exactly why I subscribed, so shocking to me we had the same exact thoughts. Also the atmosphere he makes with music, and jokes keep me here.
now I want to see if you caught up with this story. Poppy ended up doing the same thing and split from Titanic and claimed he groomed her, manipulated her and physically and mentally abused her. She took her Poppy persona, dyed her hair black, donned a goth-bjork look and started acting more like a human and less perfect AI. She and Titanic are not in contact with each other anymore which makes all the allegations actually look legit.
Plot twist : Mars Argo and Poppy reunite and plan a revenge against titanic sinclaire.
HELL YEAH!
THEY NEED TO BECOME BEST FRIENDS ISTG
Titanic Must Die.
More like poppy continues to act just like mars Argo and it probably creeps her the fuck out
NANI?!?
That dude looks like he’s gonna tell me I didn’t “really understand” pulp fiction
Hannah 😭😭😂
Well did you not? That movie was sick
gizmodo baggins lmao why don’t u go make out with ur fight club poster
Hannah I haven’t watched fight club, but that does sound tempting
@@hhhhhhhhhh1919 Pulp fiction is a great movie. What has it got to do with anything?
God that guy seems like such a manipulative creep. It’s a shame they have such impressionable fans. Awful.
Tbh idc stream i disagree
I still like Poppy and Titanic for their music
I honestly don't give a shit about the background drama. Poppy's music is good so that's all I care for. And Poppy has become way more than what Mars ever was. Mars and Titanic just made some smaller stuff that was very simple and at this point, Poppy isn't even really like that anymore. Her videos are a lot more dark and her music has become pop metal.
@@TECfan1 I don't think this qualifies as "background drama". Drama is silly and pointless and this is just calling for some legal matter.
It sucks that he became famous. He sounds horrid.
It's worth noting, that as of 2023, Mars Argo is back (to some extent). She released a song in 2022 and 2023, both released on her RUclips channel and Spotify and they're very good! Here's to hoping she can find her place once more and thrive
I never heard of Mars Argo before tonight, and I'm really liking her music! I Can Only Be Me is a bop
*Update: Poppy cut ties with Titanic. She also made similar accusations as Mars Argo did. Poppy also said that Titanic was very manipulative and used suicide as a way if manipulation... I'm just glad Moriah broke free from this man, although; I'm worried his gonna find another young vulnerable girl to take advantage.
Wait when and where did this happen
he's got a new girlfriend now. hopefully nothing bad happens again
@@marsargoru yea each girl he has been with always looks Mars.....
I'm I the only one that can't imagine how threatening suicide can control anyone?
Like "If you do this thing I don't want you to do, I'll kill myself."
Like am I just heartless? I'd be like. "Well don't make a mess when you do it." and peace the fuck out.
I guess if that threat works, the person has been majorly manipulated into thinking that would be a bad thing, and perhaps their fault.
@@nakoda787 I am not sure when exactly but a while. If you are curious about the details I recommend you to look up, there are a few videos that have been made.
Good thing Poppy and Titanic Sinclair are separated professionally now. She's under a different label and doesn't credit Titanic in her videos anymore.
But she's still using a concept that isn't hers.
@@ratssstick as far as we know, she's forming it into her own idea.
@@ratssstick A concept doesn't really belong to anybody lol
@@damienthonk1506 no? You can copyright concepts. That's what intellectual property copyright is.
@@ratssstick Agree with you, a lot of people defend her and claim she's a victim too, but she knew what she was doing and even mocked Mars Argo's statements. At the end she gained all the fame and money that belonged to the other girl. She agreed to steal the concept and image, even is she's adding her own ideas, it's still a shady thing to do. The only good thing about this is that Mars Argo is gonna appear in a movie next year.
my conclusion: relationships are horrible and I should stay single.
Anarcho Frills um I think this was a joke
There are many good people it’s just a few bad apples that ruin the whole image. Don’t worry, I’m positive you will find someone who loves you for you and treats you right ❤️
@@kristinwhite4472 First off, it's a joke. Second, they may be aromantic (or asexual) or just not like the idea of dating/etc. I'm not trying to be rude btw, cause that's a very inspiring and thoughtful comment ♡ just trying to inform :)
Elven Rune I know it’s a joke lol 😂 and you’re right about the asexual and aromatic thing... also thank you for saying my comment was inspiring 😊
@@kristinwhite4472 No problem! Hope you're doing well during this time 😊 Have a nice day!
I really love Mars Argo and I’ve been listening to her music a lot recently. I hope she comes back, her fan base is still growing. And we all believe her.
I blame it all on Titanic, seems like he manipulated both of them girls
Yeah, just being a little naive, any girl can still get into some drama
Rachel Durham Hi
@@moonlightwinterbird8009 Word? Oh, shit!
Your gonna blame Titanic? Who else could you blame it on?
@@Tyronejizz Titanic. He's the abuser/problem child here, no? Poppy does have responsibility in the matter but stupid girls do stupid things for stupid men, she'll get hers one day I'm sure.
It's sad how the internet forgot about Mars Argo until now
Nah. I watched poppy back around 2015-2016 and mars Argo was talked about a ton back then. We just didn’t know half the shit that was covered in this video
@@blazereho811 That's the thing- she was only spoken about because of Poppy and Titanic. Her identity as an individual artist was stripped away, only to be seen as a look upon the dark history that led to her abusers fame
LilPissum I’ve never forgotten, I still have a Mars Argo shirt I wear.
I never forgot
Anytime I watch poppy videos Mars Argo vids pop up as related videos.
I feel like Mars was... beautifully her own. She always felt more genuine and odd naturally. And I think Sinclair took that and made poppy into a mini Mars out of spite to prove Argo she could be replaced.
chasethetuna Tbh with you, I don't think Poppy's whole gig was a ripoff. She was meant to be some sort of robot/illuminati puppet character. Mars was never trying to be that. I think most of the aesthetic similarities just come down to them both being directed by Titanic. Saying Mars did it better just isn't really a good equivalence. But that doesn't mean Titanic didn't try to abuse Mars through it, and Poppy knew that full well.
bunnie I agree with the first half but poppy was manipulated and emotionally abused by him. He would literally tell her he would end his own life if she ever left him
He's one of those guys whose girlfriends are clones of each other. To a creepy extent.
Mars was like the quirky cool girl in high school everyone looked up to and wanted to be. Glad both girls are doing better now.
That ice cream clip was scary.
leahthechick how wouldn’t it be??
I was immediately like
wtfwtf
help
ewwww ewwwww
Dude literly I was scrolling through the comments while watching and when that clip came on I scrolled up trying to get rid of it even though it wouldn't work I was just creeped out
leahthechick and with black one in the movie theater
I am watching it at 2:30 am and I got so scared that I had to cover my screen and wait until the scene went away
He's literally the text book "abusive boyfriend"
He's named Titanic 'cause this is a shipwreck
She is named Mars after another shipwreck. Sinclair and Argo are names of electric cars. Corey even named her Mars Argo.
and the name Sinclair means 'the jungle is rotten" ...hey kids, look up Upton Sinclair "The Jungle"
His real name is Corey Mixter.
@@starless1444 , yes.
Maybe Mars Argo should change her name to ICEBERG.
I’m glad to see poppy is out of that situation as well. She is also a victim, she is still responsible for some of the things she did to Mars but Sinclair is to blame for all of this
At "best", Poppy was so traumatized by her relationship with Titanic Sinclair she became a bad person because of it. She broke up with him in 2019 yet released what appears to be a Mars Argo diss track in 2020. Whatever she was like before her relationship with Titanic Sinclair, she's still a bad person NOW.
@@PhilipWesterwhat diss song are you referring to? If it’s the one I’m thinking of, Anything Like Me, it’s about her breaking away from the Poppy persona but still feeling it inside of her and wanting to let go of it but feeling like she can’t. It’s not about Mars
she also talked trash about mars argo, she knew what she was doing and is not being made accountable for her actions because she claimed victimhood when she realised she was losing public opinion
Poppy also has a song called "Hard Feelings" and some of the lyrics are "Am I a replica of someone that you loved (someone you made me to replace) " which is probably a reference to Mars Argo
A lot of Poppy's news songs are not produced by Sinclair. Honestly I think she is becoming more independent and leaving that toxic mess behind. But people for some reason refuse to see that. She most likely has a contract like any other artist. I don't think she's a bad person.
JT agreed. i think she’s just easily manipulated
@@blairence She made some posts making fun of Brittany's abuse. Think again.
Cumbat definitely, I agree
@@jupiter5128 let's end EVERYONE that makes fun of and belittle other people. Oop there goes Jeffree and half the drama channels
I feel like Mars Argo settling for just being left alone kinda proves she wasn’t lying about abuse
Birthday Waffles no shit... how TF was she supposed to document her getting punched?
Knowing Mars Argo there’s literally no reason she would lie about that
Matt there's no reason for anybody to lie about something like that
Emily 361 Why are you so aggressive? Also... uhh people take pictures afterwards? What you mean?
Birthday Waffles just because you get punched doesn't mean there's any marks.i was abused for years and I never ran to a camera and tried to get proof. I'm guessing you never been abused.
poppy and titanic aren’t working together anymore, by the way. they unfollowed each other on instagram, and he deleted most of his pictures with her. surprised that no one’s talking about this, it happened like 2 weeks ago.
update: poppy just made a statement today confirming that she left titanic, and also revealed that she experienced similar abuse/manipulation to what mars argo went through. PSA: please don’t support titanic sinclair or any of his future endeavors. he is an abuser.
cat yeah, i heard that too! i just hope titanic doesn’t find another girl to abuse. stan mars argo lol :)
Damnnn that’s great. He gets what he deserves. Poppy keeps the fame she worked for and he gets dropped off just like he did to poor Mars. And Mars is coming out with an album and starting in a movie next year 💜
I wonder what poppy is going to do now
Ah thank you for posting. I was checking up on his social media and I'm finding stuff out too. I think it was way too soon to say "why didn't he get canceled like the others?" because it looks like it has happened and he's getting what he deserves.
@@letihanson5954 wait what? how did she get movie?
And now Mars Argo has returned and is making great music again. It’s kind of amazing how Mars Argo was so silent for years and she finally acknowledged what was going on in music. And now both Poppy and Mars Argo are putting their experience and anger from what happened into their music. I would love to see them collaborate on a song.
*Doesn't he give off a strong Onision vibe?*
Giiiirl YES! he creppy
coz i'm fabulous no this is worse
I'm so happy people are finally seeing Onision for the sociopathic fuck tool that he is. Been saying this since the mid 2000's
He doesn't
Ready to hurt?
I find it so odd that Poppy is supposed to be a representation of how disposable and replaceable celebrities/influencers are, while Poppy was a replacement for Mars Argo. I feel like the whole character was meant to taunt Mars and Poppy unknowingly signed up for this. I mean idk, Poppy could know, but either way this character is definitely some form of copying.
It's taunting the ex gf from the very start
Sophia Josephine
When life imitates art.
It's so on the nose and *"*aesthetic*"* that the obvious assumption would be that it's a metaphor. In reality it was just the literal thing describing itself.
is kinf of a 50 50, from a point of view you can say that poppy is just a copy of Mars, but .... in another point of view, Titanic was the creator of the character, so....and the one giving instructions of how to act, so you can say that this is just his style ?.
but knowing that he was a bad guy and cheater, make you feel that need to say is just a copy because you want to be team Mars (or at least thats the way I felt).
but in an objective view he just copy himself o_o .
(sorry 4 the bad English, is not my native language)
true
Who else is really bored during quarantine and decided to watch tea pages lmao
Haylee Maggerman yes
Yeapp
🙋🏾♀️
i finally found a good one which is this youtuber😎
Haylee Maggerman lemme say hi HAHHAHA
Coming from a person with experience in an abusive relationship, I totally get it. She didn't document getting punched because she was too busy getting punched and then fled to Japan to get away from his a**. Poppy needs to get away from this creep too.
She got away from that creep since technically 2020(during I disagree). Poppy, as since directed multiple music videos and as reference the situation in multiple songs such as "Never find my place." I'm so glad they both(Mars Argo and Poppy)got away from him. I'd like to think that Poppy and Mars Argo have forgiven each other and are now friends.
I wouldn't say poppy copied Mars Argo. More like Titanic dude was obsessed with Mars Argo and tried to turn poppy into her. If they start dating in the future, you'll know why.
You're really late lmao, Poppy already broke up with him because he was an abusive little shit
@@urdadsleftasshole69 oh lol well... I was right without even knowing it... I don't really keep up with poppy
Hulu made a movie about this (with no credit to Mars or Poppy) it’s called “Into the Dark: My Valentine”
Honestly the fact that he probably did try to turn poppy into Mars Argo-
Just hearing the part in the story when he said he could easily replace her makes me agree
poppy actually just broke up with him, same accusations. shes w ghostemane musically wise now!
its why she shifted from the """normal girl satire""" style mars argo did. Now shes harder on the "im a robot" theme.
She's been kind of out of character in recent times, it seems like Moriah is being inserted into the persona in some form now, more than previously at least.
she hasn't been doing the "I'm a robot shtick" for more than a year
@Devin Which is great! We love a queen who develops a unique style
I ha dang kept up with Poppy since the whole court case, but she had to change styles due to one of their many agreements.
Whimsical Nessa the style change was planned even before the lawsuit. A person can’t own a style and they can’t own a genre
So this is the Onision that succeeded in life. Huh.
Damn
оставь на покое.
My thoughts exactly lmfao
A Better Tomorrow honestly
I thought so too...
When Titanic just drew a messed up drawing of Mar's mother, oh my gosh. It's so creepy. I feel like he's a psychopath trying to blend in with people.
Imagine Poppy and Groot talking to each other,
Groot: Hi, I'm Groot.
Poppy: Hi, I'm Poppy.
Groot: I'm Groot.
Poppy: I'm Poppy.
This comment made my day in this quarantine lol
Batman: I'm Batman
@@Sakshighhh still in that ? lmao, things back to shitty normal here. besides the masks
I'm blue daba dee daba die
*_"I'M GROOT."_*
My mans really just got sponsored by an adult toy store.
On a Site mostly Viewed by Young children.....
@@bendover2684 lol RUclips isn't just for kids nor is poppy so if a child is watching this then that is the parent fault period.
@@bendover2684 OK, Boomer.
i saw this just as the video showed it
pfft your name
I hope Mars is out there having fun with her horses and friends
She’ll be fine. Apparently she’s quite well off
val eerie I hope she's ok too
omg i thought this was mean spirited at first and i was boutta go off but this comment is actually so pure
They're both lucky to be alive. He's the creepy guy your family warns you about.. I would think the first red flag was his name being Titanic. That never ends well.
He can call himself an artist, but at the end of the day, he's an abusive narcissist. He doesn't care about the women, they're just props to him.
Poppy -“i am a survivor of abuse”
Titanic- “i have a lawsuit against me for abuse”
Also Poppy and Titanic- film “Drama” and “You’re too close”
Yeah, people who are victims of abuse would never say shit like that
“This video is sponsored by Adam & Eve.”
Yeah, didn’t see that one coming.
Isn't he 17 tho???
That’s bizarre
@@zencoleman6347 fr
That's what she said...😃
That lady's face wtf
No wonder his name is Titanic, he's a complete disaster and wreck.
Psyche Art ~ titanic sinclair is a stage name
epic burn
@@revengeacademy congratulations for figuring that out
And that’s on the iceberg
When Brittany's lawyer made it public that she won and got back the rights to her music, there was a # dedicated to Sinclair, #TheTitanicHasSunk
About a month after you released this Poppy and Sinclair split and 'surprise' Poppy had some stories of her own to tell including how she was abused by Sinclair just like Mars Argo had been.
The scary thing about Poppy responding like she did is the possibility that Titanic could be forcing her to do it. If Mars was manipulated and abused in the way that she said she was, I can only imagine how he's treating Poppy.
Dude that’s what I’m thinking it’s a vicious cycle and when poppy inevitably dumps his sorry arse he’ll fuck over another girl it’s a treadmill
Its probably worse seeing as poppy isnt the real product he is obsessed over. Margo is. Poppy is probably being treated worse because she is just the copy.
Exactly, that makes all of these videos SOOO much creepier.
I bet you she didn't even write the response he did
Honestly that were my thoughts. Like... look deep into poppys eyes i don't think she likes that
I remember when all this transpired and I was really put off by Poppy’s reaction to the allegations. Most of the lawsuit was directed at Titanic Sinclair so its really weird how she made it into this personal attack against her
I mewn naes did call poppy out in the lawsuit even tho titanic directs her and is basically her boss poppy is just a actress
єчєвrσwѕ σn flєєk yeah
I have a feeling titantic was involved in those reactions tbh
Red Hood I’ve heard a lot of people say that titanic might have manipulated Poppy in some way to say those things about the Mars Argo
@@marymay8855 that would make sense, an abuser doesnt stop abusing people when they switch victims
He was so obsessed with mars Argo so he made a copy of her to fulfill his needs???
That's so disturbing to think about 😶
@FirstName Last which is fucked up.
No it was titanic that forced her to act like this !!
But I heard mars Argo Sued them
@FirstName Last Goodness gracious. I think I'm gonna puke now.
It’s so creepy that it actually makes the whole thing way cooler
Its so sad for mars Argo, I've been listening and loving her music for nearly a decade now and still love her music
Im a lil disturbed that Adam and Eve accept returns.
Ewe🤢 no way...
Ummm ew 🤢🤢
they probably clean and/or destroy the returned toys.
Uh...I think I know *but I kinda don't* but to be honest *~~~I don't want to~~~~*
@@goldkpae3830 don't blaspheme pls God bless
Why I like your videos:
- actually quality content
- you aren't rude to anyone
- you tell us actual information
- you don't make drama out of nothing
💗💗
His sponser tho
@@DarkwearGT ikr😂😂
also his voice isn’t annoying like some of them
I like his videos because I can understand the story even if I'm hearing the person's name for the first time
and his voice is so SOOTHING
They should make a movie about this and call it “Obsession” and give Mars Argo all the profits.
I love that idea.
holy shit that would be epic
YES
And the opening might be Mariah Carey's 'obsessed' remix 😂
Walker, you're a genius
12:30 : I have to say, I had an abusive ex who wanted to stop me from going to Japan at all costs as well; he became more and more desperate as the time of my departure became imminent. If I hadn't left...I don't know. I do know I was able to end it with the space between us, and he KNEW that- thus the desperation, threats, etc. I didn't want people to know, I didn't want to *believe* it was that bad, if that makes sense...some things you don't document because they completely unhinge your, your faith in yourself and others, love, everything. Pictures don't seem so important when you life as you known it has just shattered. This seems very familiar. Does her story make a little more sense now?
This is seriously disturbing, man.
Just like mars argo
So, why doesn't anyone seems to worry that Titanic is doing the same abusive and controlling behaviour he's done with Mars Argo to Poppy?
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.
I am fan of Poppy and I'm worried :( we have to help her
poppy helped him mess with brittany so i have no sympathy for her
@@Valerybr02 are you sure?
@@Valerybr02 doesn't mean that he didn't abuse Poppy at the same time or after. Actually not a valid argument whatsoever.
i dated someone like Titanic Sinclair. they have damn near identical mannerisms too, and my ex is genuinely the most awful person I’ve ever met. i feel sooo bad for Mars Argo.
edit: i’m sorry you guys had to go thru similar situations. nobody deserves to be treated like that. 🤍
Unfortunately, I did too. It took me so long to get away from him. So sorry you had to deal with that bullshit. I hope this girl gets what she's looking for. 🖤✨
Oh my god. I didnt notice until i read this comment. I dated someone just like him as well. Fuck.
Same and mine still doesn’t respect the restraining order and still tries to belittle my reputation
I dated a violent, controlling abuser, 5yrs. Thank goodness Mars is ok and has her intellectual property back. So glad he’s out of her life.
Me too. It's awful. Glad you got away and you're ok. It's so much harder than people think.
This is well written and fairly objective, and it holds up for what info you had at the time. I appreciate it.
It would be interesting to get an update video regarding Poppy's split from Titanic and her statement about that, and the ensuing drama.
Titanic is probably a manipulative freak who’s blackmailing girls into being his doll
Mayhaps but who knows
Pretty much
Speckled Legs
definitely not worse, probably just on the same level
Lucia
what the fuck dude
@Speckled Legs mhm
This Titanic could be Onision's brother lulz.
I threw up a little at the thought of TWO
Not gonna lie, I genuinely thought it was Onision with a wig until I read the comments
No, he's way more smarter
Y’all cancel every youtuber for stupid petty drama but not men like this who deserve it.
Kassy Flowers I agree that a lot goes undetected, but you have to admit, we’re doing a good job at taking down onision..
Just Some Person Lol fuck onision
@@misaloelric2455 Last I heard his type is 17 year old girls, I don't know if they reach his criteria.
Zuzu and from his ex, shiloh, he is into loli p*rn and locked his ex out of the room so he could f*p to it. It's fucked up
just because they say somebody cancelled means nothing...ive never seen anybody actually get cancelled unless youtube remove their channel
the fact that poppy went out of her way to say that the abuse that mars endured was not real, claimed that she had been abused, faked being hurt by a lawsuit, and then denied allegations makes me so angry
And then everyone let her off the hook for it. 🤷♀️
Such a weird vibe… it makes me a little sick…
There all creepy people that Titanic guy, poppy, and Mars argo give me creepy vibes
@@Ri_5475 That's because Poppy and Mars Argo were under the influence of Titanic. Overall, he's a creepy and sick dude. Poppy is back to being herself and is no longer that creepy soulless robot.
Shiromi-chan this describes everything so well, kinda ruined my day
Shiromi-chan ah t français😂
The pic of him sitting on her front porch is SO creepy. What a horrible little man.
Time stamp?
@@Idk-ud1pf 11:56
Christine S. Thx
I would’ve thrown rocks at him
what is this line from I can hear it in my head but can’t pin it lmfaoooo “what a horrible little man”
OHMYGOD NEVERMIND it’s Star Trek I’m such a nerd I’m probably the only one in the world who remembers it 💀
She shouldn't have settled. She should've taken them to court. She had a solid case and could've gotten a lot more
Cordelia Bell you stupid , it’s the same person
You should’ve updated the story, poppy exposed titanic and confirmed he was abusive and he treated her the same way he treated mars, he even controlled poppy to make her copy mars and now she broke free and releases alternative metal which is the music she likes, she even uses her real name every now and then
Primink stopped making videos years ago.
Welp not anymore
she is using victimhood to deny culpability
It seems to me this Titanic dude was bitter about Mars leaving him and no longer giving him control over her so he slipped on over and created a little mini me so he could have her without having her... it’s all kinda creepy...
Mars Argo has the same look in her eyes as Shiloh did when she was in an abusive relationship with Greg (onision) it's uncanny..
Elle p i was about to say that titanic is giving me onion vibes. Eep
Elle p YES!!!!
Wow.. i wake up to 200 upvotes.. so relieved I'm not the only one who noticed the pattern.. i thought it was a pretty old reference but it appears this a-hole has seared his perverted narcissism in our collective memories..
poppy's got the same thing. This titanic guy is very strange.
IS THIS WHY I KEPT THINKING OF SHILOH?
Mars Argo felt like a real indie artist that found her niche. Poppy is a manufactured symbol for money making.
That's actually the entire point.
Thats literally the point to her lore tho
THEVAULTDWELLER that’s kinda what she’s trying to do. Sinclair (titanic) Is trying to do that. I think. Nah, I’m just tripping
can we j appreciate what mars had to go through.. she deserves the world
Mars Argo is probably the lucky one that made it out.
What if poppy is being abuse and brain wash
@@remie973 Pretty sure she is..
@@remie973 yah .. this wht im thinking tho..
@@remie973 at one point she probably was but after everything she's done, she's a partner in crime basically now
1000th upvote
He does have the face of an insecure guy who punches women and who gets aroused from hurting them tbh
the bluntness of this comment made me laugh lol (not that the content is funny, but you know what I mean)
that’s a fucked up thing to assume🧐
r/oddlyspecific
Women are equal right? That means they should be able to take whatever a man can right? I have no record of abuse, just making a point.
@@The1stDukeDroklar What a weird comment... Just because both parties can 'take' abuse, that still doesn't make it okay. Hahaha...
Okay but if Titanic abused Mars, then there's a huge possibility he abuses poppy as well.
Alex Yakubo it’s a definite possibility, abusers rarely ever change
Why do you think poppy said she's also a survivor of abuse
Alex Yakubo He probably is :/
my dumbass read those names, as names of objects.. 🥴
@@sirashley2355 It's not really being "so quick to judge", when we have near definite proof that he has a huge history of abuse, and obsessiveness. It's more along the lines of using information we know to make an educated assumption with much evidence to back it up. That being said, nobody truly knows what is happening.
A guy with the cutest, most childlike innocent voice sponsoring an adult toy store is the best part of the video imo.
STOP I WASNT READY TO SEE THAT ICE CREAM VIDEO 😭😭😭
same, I hate that video. you may excuse me, I need to call my terapist...
Baum Liura 🤣🤣😭
I literally had nightmares from that ice cream ad.
But you’re ready to see a documented video about Poppy’s videos?
Don't you want some of Baby's Ice Cream?
That terrifying little baby’s ice cream commercial made me not want to ever eat any ice cream again, let alone their brand. I don’t know how that is an effective marketing tool
I like it just because of how silly it is
I think the creepiness of the ad calls attention to it, reaching a lot more people than a normal ad would, and many of these people may also try the ice cream given the opportunity. Only a small amount of people would know of little babies ice cream otherwise, but due to the ad many more know about it, don't they?
I don't how the way the lady is covered ice cream and just stares at you for seconds while the creepy narrator talks about "LITTLE BABY'S ICE CREAM" like he is whispering in your ear being like, "You like the taste of flavor do YOU?".
IDK we're talking about it. So something worked.
It's effective because it made their unknown brand go viral and while some people react like you did, others will say, "That was really weird and disturbing. I wonder what kind of ice cream a company like that makes. I wanna try it."
An update to poppy: she is now engaged to ghostmaine, and is now doing what she has always wanted to do. Her new music is really good.
mushroom girly :D I don’t know about mars, I don’t think she’s on social media anymore. And wdym poppy isn’t innocent?
mushroom girly :D mars has a tumbler she answers questions on
mushroom girly :D brittany sheets is hinting to coming back soon :)
@@rooroolite no hate towards poppy but she copied Argo's entire persona so not that innocent.
@@rozlemoni3454 she was forced into it.