The Youtuber Who Filmed Her 'Kidnapping' | Save Marina Joyce
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Marina Joyce was a British RUclipsr who had gained a significant following for her beauty and fashion videos. However, in 2016, her behavior on camera started to change, and her fans became worried about her well-being. This led to a wave of concern and speculation, with many people wondering what had happened to Marina Joyce. #savemarinajoyce
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
⚉ T W I T T E R: / primink
⚉ I N S T A G R A M: / iprimink
⚉ D I S C O R D: / discord
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
POPULAR VIDEOS! WOWza!
► How Shane Dawson Destroyed This RUclipsr: • How Shane Dawson DESTR...
► The Instagram Model Who Fabricated Her Entire Life:
• The Instagram Model Wh...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: Primink.Media@Gmail.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sources:
Marina Joyce: / @marinajoyce
Where is Primink? clips:
Tiktok: www.tiktok.com...
Boondock Mysteries: www.youtube.co...
HannahTheHorrible: • 100K SUBSCRIBER Q & A
Blowing Up Montage:
DramaAlert: / @dramaalert
Jenna Julien: / @jennajulienpodcast
Clevver News: / @clevvernews
FaZe Rug: / @rug
Love that Primink disappeared for 3 years and suddenly came back with a story about a missing RUclipsr
lmao true
Ikr?! Was here to comment that the biggest mystery on RUclips was HIS disappearance now. But I guess we might never know, sounds like an NDA sitch... ::gulp::
@katymaloney Yeah I defo think whatever happened, law enforcement was involved if he's not sure what he can really say
Lol I didn't see the irony til you mentioned it 😂
The irony is not lost
am i hallucinating or is there a new primink video
We've been blessed.
Both
Seeing you liking good content is wild 😂
Dude no freaking way
...Am I hallucinating, or is that ElvistheAlien?
well, look what the cat dragged in
omg
Kings
this from you
@@AidanPatko!!!
@@nicematerial at least he’s back to regular ish uploads now.
And just like a dream… he’s gone again… We miss you, Primink!
Istgg
🥺 hopefully the king will return once again
Ikr 🥺
guess what
Guess whis back
The RUclipsr Who Returned When the World Needed Him Most | Primink
lmao missed seeing you as well!
We needed you back too.
Omg dangelo wallace and primink in the same comment section what is this a crossover episode??
Periodt.
DANGELO SAID IT BEST
love how he just casually drops a video as if he didn't just dissapear from the internet for 3 years mad respect
It’s been 3 years already????
@@Meowzer030 I can't believe it has been 3 years either, like what???
Huh? YT has been pushing his vids to me, every couple of weeks; were they old vids? I didn't even notice
IS THE LEGEND BACK OMFG!!!!
#SavePrimink
oooh, I get it. Primink is trying to say that he's disappointed that none of us started a 'Save Primink' campaign during his absence.
**bowing head in shame**
That was pretty thoughtless of us. On behalf of the community, I can only apologize and hope that you'll forgive us.
Lol
i’m screaming 😂😂😂😂
Which is crazy because I was just about to start that very campaign! Day late & dollar short, eh? 😂
Lmao 😂 💀
See yall in 3 years when Prim posts again
See yaa! 🫡
See you all!
the f, dude your life is hell for everyone, might as well not be a man anymore, erectile dysfunction is no joke
see yall 🙃
hes backk!
As an ex drug addict, i can attest to the fact that bruises on arms and hyperactive speaking and her philosophical posts could definitely be an effect.
Proud of you for overcoming your addiction ❤️
as an ex iv drug user, of the bruises ive seen they dont appear to be caused by drug abuse.
@Kenny-sc1ey I'm in recovery from IV drug addiction and i always had a few bruises on the backs of my arms from the tourniquet. But I was seriously underweight and malnourished too so that didnt help. But yeah they looked different than track marks.
if she says she was partying then it makes sense. my ex was her similar build, shorter, pale white girl, and she came home with tons of random bruises and whatnot after we got home from raves/parties/clubs. i dont bruise easy but pale girls with most likely iron/potassium deficiencies definitely bruise from random bumps.
@@Kenny-sc1ey no i know the bruises arent from iv. They would be on the other side. But you can be more prone to bruising from drugs in general.
Imagine being a youtuber for like 1 year, then, desappearing for 3 years, but having such dedicated fans that the day you reappear you get 1M views, like... That's a flex
It's always made me so happy when I check and see that no matter how much time passes, the sub count didn't go down. I never would have unsubscribed cuz I didn't want to give up and I'm glad most people were still just waiting!
@@LunarEleven I agree!!
It helps that the fans are sweet. SO many commentary channels have pretty toxic communities, meanwhile down here it’s just kind of like: “Haha, messy RUclips drama is messy.”
Coryxkenshin is the same, even he gained like 1 million+ subscribers in his last hiatus😂😂
@@LunarElevenI have a new phone and a new account so my phone hasn’t even searched for a Primink video before. An angel obviously put him on my recommended list and I am THRILLED
I’m glad Primink is making videos again and definitely hasn’t been forced to make them by his kidnapper.
Genuinely looked to see if you came back multiple times! We missed you lad.
Bruh?💀
@@jamstahjamsame, I thought this was an old video
ugh he left again, babe i miss you
Wake up, he’s back!!! New vid just dropped!
He's back as of today
he's back again!
WTF
@@LittleLilyGaming can't even speak my truth anymore smh
As a fully grown 34 year old woman with two children to look after, I have absolutely no business being this excited that you're back!!!
Tbh. Life goals lmao.
Same. I'm 40 with a kid and husband. But I'm weirdly attached to this dude and making sure he's ok. I guess it's the mom in us lol
I'm middle-aged with a kid, and I squealed like a teeniebopper! Great content is great content, even if we're old enough to be the creators parents/piblings.
31 with a toddler and honestly same lol😅
32yo who felt the same 😂
When I met my husband, we bonded over your disappearance from the internet, and how fitting that you're back as we're hitting our anniversary lol
THIS IS SO CUTE
That's so adorable! twisted, but adorable
You've summoned him (Happy anniversary!)
Happy anniversary 🥹🥹
that’s so adorable, God bless you both
When I met my husband, we bonded over your disappearance from the internet, and how fitting that you're back as we're hitting our anniversary lol
Primink being gone for three years only to reappear in 2023 was not something I expected. Either way it’s a good surprise. Welcome back Primink glad you seem to be doing well.
Holy Shit... I didn't realize it was THREE years.
ITS BEEN SO LPNG 😭😭
3 YEARS???? IT WAS 3 YEARS??
wait was he actually sued?? i thought that was a joke 😭
@@mason96575or was it Venus' mom? Cuz he mentioned something about her suing him in the vid about Lillee
Honey come back, the kids miss you 😔
Bro went to get milk, stopped back in to drop it off and realized he forgot cigarettes
Hes back with the milk!!
@@nemoonemii yessss hahaha saw his new vid
It’s likely that even Marina isn’t aware of what happened with her. Her mental illness is causing her to detach from reality and I’m sure it can’t be easy to have millions of people telling her something wrong is going on when to her it’s just normal behavior.
I basically don't remember anything from when I was depressed, so yeah it's very likely she doesn't either, especially with being on drugs
Yeah she seems extremely dissociated like 90% of the time
@@jodoodlyboi2963 Right? Depression alone can distort thoughts pretty badly but imagine that distorted sense of reality x 100 because it seems like she might be struggling from psychosis or mania. In that case, the person is so deep in that they don’t even realize there’s anything wrong.
And its SO gross how people were making fun of her.. like wtf??
@@Ch39470We're (comment section) all thinking drug-induced psychosis considering everything outlined in this video.
I can’t believe you’re back. Whatever happened to you, I’m so sorry. My life was turned on its head a year ago and I’m still recovering, trying to feel better. Thank you for not only making this, but sharing it with all of us too. I’m so happy it made you happy to work on this. Give Frank some nice words and be good to yourself. You’ve been very missed.
VERY missed. I've binged the catalog probably six to eight separate times. I'm SO glad that you've been okay, Primink!
Yes just like Jesus, Primink died for our sins and 3 years later he resuscitated and he's now more glorious than ever.
I couldn't've worded it better myself.
And, I'm wishing you well with your own situation; it can be rough climbing out of a hard spot, but the goal of feeling better I'm sure is so worth it
@@Alfred-Neumanthe word resuscitated took me out 😂
@@DirtyBngWatersomeone gave Jesus some really REALLY good CPR in that cave
Regardless of what happened, we’re all glad you’re here. Welcome back, Primink!!!
Cool comment
I like your comment. :]
depends on what he did hope its nothing bad..
@kayanono Pretty sure he was being sued by one or two of the batshit mothers he covered in past videos. They were hellbent on trying to get him to take down the videos he made exposing them.
I wonder if it has anything to do with Lillie Jean... 🤔
As someone who’s done a wellness check, you’d be surprised how little police truly do during wellness checks. Unless they’re held at gunpoint in front of the cops, they don’t see “immediate danger”
I attempted a wellness check for my dad. I had a feeling he died. The cop refused to check on him. We fought for about an hour.
@@TheBrae13what was the result? Was your dad okay?
He was dead. Not sure for how long. We were not even sure why.
@@TheBrae13 Wow, that sucks, i hope you could keep going after that shit my friend. People who don´t even really care are the worst.
Wow, I'm so sorry. That's awful. You shouldn't have had to go through something like that on top of a loss.
Wow, AI has really come a long way, it really sounds like him. It is almost like he never died. We miss you, Primink. No matter how good the ai voice is, it'll never replace you in our hearts.
Stalin no💀💀
Wha huh 💀
Ehhh?
SCREAMING HAHAHA
Just when I forgot we were in the matrix... 😩
Marina: comes back after disappearance like nothing happened
Primink: comes back after disappearance like nothing happened
In all seriousness Happy your posting again ☺️
omg he kidnapped her!
Primink you are a scholar and an upstanding gentleman. You were missed.
Odd thing to specifically say about a guy fresh out of prison
@@adambonesaw3689lmao sure
I was 16 when save marina Joyce was happening but I knew that it was drugs first seeing that video. A lot of my family are addicts so i can spot it so quickly. I felt so bad when everyone was saying she planned it but she had no idea she was even acting different due to drug induced psychosis.
For some reason a lot of people going through psychosis always are deeply interested in religion as u can notice by the way she gets more spiritual I’ve noticed that a lot with the people around me. Their speech is different everyone else notices but the person going through it. They almost feel more like themselves more in touch with themselves but it’s complete opposite in reality. They legitimately beleive the thing they’re saying even if it makes no sense to us, it’s the truth to them.
U can spot it so quickly, it’s ridiculous people made a bunch of bs up. The way they even move u can tell. U can see it in their eyes the most. It’s mania x10 complete delusion sometimes they can even hear and see things that aren’t there
I never heard of Marina Joyce before this video, and throughout watching it I'm completely exasperated seeing how my fellow humans were reacting to a teenager, suddenly with lots of expendable income, starting to act strange.
You don't need to be experienced with drug abusers to put two and two together; Occam's razor anyone? Hanlon's Razor?
I guess it's my fault that my expectations of people were too high.
I think the real conclusion here is that people need to stop expecting solutions to mental health and drug abuse. She'll never post a video that will make people think "Ah now it's done and she's fine, now we can move on", she'll always struggle, she might fall back in more than once, she might never be fully "okay" and that's fine. This kind of thing happens to millions of people, their breakdowns just aren't shared worldwide.
yeah we don't expect a full happy ending with regular people, we shouldn't with influencers either
@@heroinfathr Exactly, I think people treat influencers like entertainment and expect a conclusion that would happen in a story but in real life that just doesn't happen. As much as some of them want us to think otherwise, they're just humans.
Yeah I think this is a big problem nowadays. We see influencers as our entertainment and equate them as fiction. So we see them and their lives as characters/stories instead of real.
It's not fine. Just because it happens to a lot of people doesn't make it fine. It's sad that so many people go through that and no one can or help them.
@@XCookieEaterX Then what are you going to do about it? How are you going to make sure not a single person falls back into addiction? You can't, hence it's fine. I'm not saying ignore it ffs I'm just saying this kind of obsession and acting like it's an outlier just makes things worse.
This really sounds like you were sued, my guy, but happy to have you back!
@@mason96575 I think it was that human doll girls mom he mentioned it in a past video that she was trying to sue him
Oooo, the heart... Confirmation? Now was it Venus Angelic's Mom or Lily Gene?
He hearted it O.o
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sued or committed
Love how bro casually says "I didnt die" after coming back after 3 years. Glad you took time to sort out private life, happy you're back
"AS YOU CAN SEE I AM NOT DEAD"
...bet he was being held hostage, after doing drugs in Peru.
@@zoolog2012😂😂😂
Wait he uploaded only after 3 years. What happened to him?
Bro this is my first video on the channel and your here? Dude why are u everywhere
i had a bad psychedelic trip when I was about 19, which turned into ptsd with delusions and psychosis. behavior like this is really similar to how I felt, so im honestly not surprised. I really am just glad shes ok, and hope she knows that shes not alone in her struggles
Oh god I’m sorry, is that permanent?
@@ravenID429for some, it can be, there are plenty cases where people who have a bad trip find themselves hallucinating uncontrollably for months after and those effects never going away, it’s like having a seizure, it happens but not in control of the person. May God bless Us All
Lmao this has nothing to do with tripping. It would never make you act dumb like this and continue to edit and post videos .
One snort of the wrong coke handed me my very debilitating OCD and anxiety disorder at 17. I didn't even like coke. So stupid.
My mom is schizophrenic, so I have never messed with psychedelics (well, excluding weed). Growing up with her taught me just how horrible and scary psychosis/delusions are, and I genuinely hope from the bottom of my heart that you are doing well and if you are still having problems, that you have a good support system. I'm currently having a very rough time with all my mental problems (developed Bipolar II at 31 due to stress, just my dang luck), but knowing there are other people out there who can relate to drug induced mental disorders makes it a little less lonely.
Literally same. At 19 although luckily it wasn’t AS bad. I def had tracers for years but no psychosis. But the crippling anxiety of the last 10 years all started after bad trips. Can’t smoke weed can’t drink. Get paranoid about people spiking my food with drugs. So extreme paranoia. Very dissociative. Panic attacks. Absolute nightmare. I hope my kids never touch drugs. Horrendous.
It’s so good to see you again! We went full on investigation mode searching for you!
He came back with a "Save someone other than me" video 😅
@@mason96575 do you have proof or is it just an educated guess? I hope you have proof to be speaking so confidently about this across the comment section
@@syl59281 that's fair. Taking the comments down.
It's just he heavily implied it 3 years ago - then mentions it in the final frame of this video, too.
Plus if you look her up she has been suing and copyright striking any channel that has mentioned her. As recently as three months ago with a guy named Price.
@@mason96575who is doing that?
@@mason96575 Fair enough! and sorry if I was harsh, which I think I was, I'm just tired rn.
Also thanks for elaborating. It does make sense, I get where you were coming from
CONGRATS ON COMING BACK! We are so happy, but do not get overwhelmed with the need to upload regularly - we'll always be here. Your editing style is really unique and has been missed, thank you, Primink!!
Yess! Even if he posts just a few videos a year I’ll be happy
Frrr, we want that quality over quantity 😤 would rather he enjoy what he’s making and continue to see that passion shine through his work instead of overworking himself
It’s not unique lol we love his videos cause he a twink
This! He can post whenever he wants to, even if it's not often. His channel, his life, his rules.
@@scionixx9568what’re u talking abt 😭
Right when you left the world fell apart, and now you've returned to bless us again. There's hope for humanity once again. 🙌🙌
We should make a temple or sg😂
I just assumed that she went through some kind of profound psychological issue. I couldn't even begin to imagine what, but that is the only thing that makes sense to me.
Young girl learning about the world, suddenly has lots of expendable income.
Honestly? I'm perplexed that there was ever any question about whether it was drugs or not.
I'm almost infuriated that no one seems to know about how mental illnesses like schizophrenia and psychosis in general can be activated by taking drugs...
Then you become upset rather easily and without reason. Many comments (posted prior to yours) say exactly this. Also, it is addressed in the video. But why would you have an issue even if they didnt know? Do you think everyone should be associated with either thing? I only know because of my education. Not because I’ve ever seen it in person. Most people on the planet don’t actually understand mental illness.
I do believe she was using (likely a variety) of drugs. But as someone who has used (speed, benzos, psychedelics, etc.) extensively in the past, there's a stark difference between a "regular" drug user and someone whose addiction is comorbid with a more serious mental disorder. In a group of drug users, sometimes there's someone who seems to not "handle it as well" or they are never the same afterwards even if they get cleaned up. These are often people with bipolar, schizophrenia, or a dissociative disorder. While drug induced psychosis is possible on its own, it's not really true that drugs cause some of these more long term conditions (especially since there's a genetic component). It's more like they become "activated," as you said.
I guess this is all to say, yes, Marina likely used drugs. However, her mannerisms indicate there's deeper issues that are likely only exacerbated by the drugs. Like, it's only a small part of the whole picture. As outsiders, we'll never be privy to that whole picture, but I hope she's coping and doing well in her day to day life regardless.
I considered the two being coexisting issues for this person pretty much immediately.
I have mental health issues and I know from experience that the effects of mind-altering substances can change a lot due to the different neurodivergencies and mental illnesses one has, and that such substances can also act as triggers for symptoms either in some circumstances or in all of them.
For me, my nervous system and mental health doesn't react well to sativa strands of marijuana (or at least, it hasn't before, tolerance might've changed). Also, I know indica is typically known for relaxing people in a way that might make them sleepy. However, for me, indica's sedative effects only serve as a counter stimulant to my ADHD, without putting undue strain on my nervous system (as sativa would). Doing indica allows me to focus and to choose whether to relax or do something with more activity, without my body and brain being as picky about it. I can rest if I want to, I can be more active than if I were sober if I want to, I can play video games (with tunnel vision, which works against me sometimes), I can do art without getting art block as easily, and I can do other creative things as well as think through emotional problems more easily with it.
Sativa makes me overstimulated, and it's harder to focus on what I want to focus on. If I get high on it without being in a calm, relaxing, and safe feeling environment when I take it, especially if I don't have anything pleasant to distract myself as the effects of the high come on, it can trigger nerve pain, seizure-like episodes, panic attacks, and if I'm super high, confusion and terror.
ADHD also changes how stimulants and depressants work in the brain, chemically, which changes how a person with an ADHD brain presents and experiences their ADHD.
I am ADHD, autistic, and have PTSD/C-PTSD and panic disorder. I also have mobility issues with my spine, caused by early skeletal degeneration and spinal compression, and peripheral neuropathy. The only substances I use are FDA approve medications, and medical marijuana. THC can be used to help with symptoms of ADHD if used correctly, for some people, like myself.
@@Rumplegirlskin and yet, most people on the planet are affected by mental illness/mental health adjacent issues, which are very important parts of life for both the individual and society. A basic understanding, above what is the average now, should be maintained. In communities were the average understanding of mental health and neurochemistry is higher, the rates of suicide, self harm, substance abuse, and so many other issues are quite lower.
Especially with pshycadelics. They are becoming more popular, and people are beggining to not look at them as drugs, which they are. Weed especially, which can cause severe pshycosis. I fell into doing Weed and pshycadelics for awhile, mainly shrooms, DMT, and weed (yes, Weed is a mild pshycadelic) and it put me in an episode of pshycosis that had me believing I was a God and acting a lot like how Marina was acting. It's terrifying, and these drugs should not be messed with. That doesn't go without saying that shrooms and dmt can actually be beneficial IF someone can guide the trip and under moderation. Your brain also should be fully developed, because it can fuck you up if it isn't. Out of every drug I did, shrooms were actually the one thing that I can confidently say helped me more than did harm, but dmt and Weed? Shit will have you believing you are the second coming of christ if abused lmao
she truly was one of the blueprints for the eventual tiktok culture of assuming that any person being vaguely weird on camera is a trafficking victim making cries for help lol. glad to have you back, primink.
yeah, ppl will see weird stuff and assume there's some kind of secret code, and will comment shit like "omg wear orange in your next video if you need help!!!" and it always just confuses me bc like...in the hypothetical situation where you have a kidnapper who's making you make videos, you don't think the kidnapper would be watching the comments like a hawk? like even if they were being held hostage and being made to make videos i doubt the captors would be that stupid lmao
@@jasperjazziewell they're usually teenagers, children, or adults who have internet brain rot (aka online-children). They perceive things differently.
@rach3092that IS what happened though? She took drugs and they gave her mental issues?
@@alexbennet4195Not exactly, she was diagnosed with MS and went crazy after
I remember as a young teenager recognizing some drug-induced psychotic tendencies in Marina’s videos. Both of my parents were previously drug addicts years before I was born, and coupled with the fact that they were also medical professionals (pharmacist and EMT), I learned a lot about the impacts of drugs from both a user and a researcher/rescue/recovery perspective. Everyone else I knew was convinced that she had been kidnapped and were fixated on this idea that they could help save her somehow, but the online attention seemed to just make her worse. The internet is not a great place for substance abusers and we honestly should have just left her alone. The whole thing did nothing reinforce her delusions
As someone who has also been in recovery and clean for 7 years, that's what it felt like to me as well. It all felt a little too familiar and made me uncomfortable the kind of attention she was receiving. She needed help with her mental health and instead everyone kept feeding in to her behavior ☹️
It seemed like everyone was looking for a movie-like spectacle when the answer was actually very simple. She needed help but the internet wanted a show. The sensationalism about her case was a disservice.
I always thought she was having some sort of psychotic episode or something like that.
@@talic-os5899you’re right pretty much if you watch the video that she posted about it recently it is that she talks about it idk why he didn’t go more in depth on that cause she didn’t say it was just drugs
Exactly and sadly social medi is the platform they love no human contact they only hear what you tell them and it’s made for narcissists
Him coming back was a cruel fever dream .
Everyone wanted to save her and when they found she was actually safe, they started to hate on her… People’s need to be the hero is just disgusting
Lashing out after being embarrassed, that's what I'd guess.
She did play into it though...
i don’t think it necessarily means that people wanted to be the hero, she fed the idea of being kidnapped and everyone realizing she was just lying was part of the reason of everyone disliking her
bro what shes obviously safe💀💀
@@carobebebonita um she was just having a mental health episode she didn't feed into it at all... ppl are so fucking cruel jesus its getting embarrassing how no one on the internet has any kind of empathy anymore
screaming, crying, and throwing up. i’m so happy you’re back and safe, welcome back! sorry to hear you’ve been going through some rough times, hope things are better for you now
But are you "literally shaking"?
@@iHaveTheDocuments well, duh… they’re like ✨literally✨ throwing up over a RUclipsr!
yesss
shes doing okay now i believe, shes still uploading actually and i agree im so glad hes back, i almost had a stroke when i seen the new upload.
same, crazy to finally get some kind of conclusion!
Hello, I am a Registered Nurse and I've spent years with people suffering from mental health concerns. Also, my mother has been diagnosed with schizophrenia and raised me by herself. Before you even mentioned schizophrenia that was what I thought while watching her clips and listening to her speech pattern. Abusing substances is known to increase the severity of mental health concerns such as schizophrenia. However, there's only so much you can tell about a person from behind a screen.
my drug abuse had not much effect on the schizo part infact it decreased alot of the issues
drugs usually do the opposite only when you dont have the disorders
with the disorders it can impact you in a good way if used properly ;)
She really does talk like someone with schizophrenia .. I agree.. my friend at 28 yrs old did a bunch of cocaine once & changed like a light switch over the course of like a couple days & was never the same again. He’s 34 now & been diagnosed schizophrenic for all those years. Almost like the drugs awoke the mental illness?
@@amberlayne4206 yeah, that definitely sounds probable. Drug use can definitely bring on psychosis and schizophrenia if it’s already underlying in that individual. That must’ve been really hard for your friend. I hope they’re getting the support they need
@amberlayne4206 Gross. No she doesn't.This addiction to speculating about other peoples' mental health is truly fucked up
You should know better. And you clearly didn't play a role in diagnosing patients.
This does present like textbook schizophrenia with delusional episodes and then coming back to normal. I've had people in my life who talked similarly when developing that awful disorder. But of course, unless she's been assessed by a professional that's pure speculation. Hope she is well and is taking care of herself.
Feels more like schizo-affective disorder to me. My wife has schizo-affective disorder and I see so many parallels between her and Marina. The way they talk, act, how their mind works, how they ramble.
Had it been schizophrenia, I'd have expected more extreme situations. And more extreme delusions with more extreme outcomes and thought processes. I've known a few schizophrenics in my time and, well... none of them would've been able to even remotely fake being OK, while actively experiencing a psychotic episode.
There's no illness, there's just drugs: Young girl exploring the world suddenly has thousands in expendable income every month...
Literally happens every day, you just normally don't have recordings of their behaviour to obsess over.
Aw I feel like an old friend has come by for a chat. You've been missed but hey life gets busy. No pressure to upload all the time. It's good to hear your voice again. ☺️ wishing you well!
You’re so much more calm than I was about this return lolll
omg you came back 🥲
James what are u doing here??.
Is this the multi verse too much happening I can't
@JamesWelsh ain't no way you're here too
Omg James here!!
I like this crossover
" I was a sad boy but making this made me happy" We always want you to be happy.
We missed you tons, hope you're doing well. We all send good vibes your way :)
Sometimes people will develop a mental health condition after a particularly bad trip on any psychedelic. A pre existing condition or addiction can also worsen it of course so she was definitely having an awful time. Seems like she's been trying to recover for a while but i imagine its hard when people are always talking about you.
When the world needed him the most, he came back! Welcome back Primink 😢
Talking from experience I can say her behaviour matches mania perfectly. The emotions, spiritual purpose, apparent lack of sleep and appetite. She already had depression. Manic episodes could've come from drugs or (self-medicating) bipolar.
Regardless I hope she's stable and taking her meds. Mania can absolutely destroy your life. At the time it felt like watching myself slip from reality and it's a terribly powerless thing.
I believe she's mentioned she has multiple scelerios in one of her videos, which would explain a lot
Yup. I am diagnosed with bipolar disorder I resonate with a lot of the behaviors she was exhibiting because I did the exact same things.
she was on drugs. a friend of hers who is also a youtuber made a video a few years ago about how they did drugs together and then she really went off the deep end in her substance abuse
I'm 30 now and was diagnosed with Bipolar 1 when I was 15. Mania is a terrifying, often destructive symptom and while a lot of her behavior is consistent with mania, the fact that this behavior continued nearly uninterrupted for years simply doesn't support the nature of the disorder. Mania takes a tremendous toll on a person, both physically and emotionally, and as a result, the episodes don't normally last more than a few weeks at most. The body just can't sustain itself in that state for such an extended period of time. Drug abuse, while certainly common in people with chronic psychotic illness, seems to fit better here. I'm no psychiatrist, nor do I know marina, but I think long-term substance abuse is a more likely part of an accurate explanation.
Same! I’m bipolar too.
It's not what we expected,
but it's what we NEEDED.
Primink's back!
I’ll wait another 3 years for you
AND WHEN THE WORLD NEEDED HIM MOST, HE CAME BACK!!
I missed you my guy, glad you're back, great video as always
I'm so sorry you were going through something so bad but I hope you're doing better now and it's SO wonderful to see you back - I gasped SO loud when I saw you uploaded
Everyone was suddenly a detective when the Save Marina Joyce thing happened. I remember there was fake stuff being spread like fake photos of Marina being filmed by people in Ghostface masks, and a blank video of someone trying to sound like Marina Joyce and acting like she’s in danger. There was also someone who visited the site of the alleged “party” and no one was there. I actually never heard of this woman until this incident took place and it’s so wild to me how a stranger on the internet brought everyone together.
Wasnt there also that weird 'Hope Everyone Likes Pancakes' tweet that people said spelled out 'help' ?
@@shipper-of-heart8898 I've never seen that, but I'm not surprised people would come to that conclusion. What I do remember was how Joyce was liking tweets of people showing concern or asking about her wellbeing.
I remember how people went all detective. Meanwhile sane people are sitting back going.
So someone kidnapped, makes her do videos, steals her money, edits her videos whole she is leaving "cryptic" help me messages. Ya that makes total sense. It is a kidnappers dream to take someone and force them to make RUclips videos. 😂
The worst was people framing her boyfriend who did absolutely nothing wrong except be there for Marina and be in her videos.
what?
@Smash-gs5kd
This appeared in my side bar and I thought I was being trolled. This is actually wonderful. We are all so happy you're back Primink.
Omg you're back, What have we done to deserve this! Thanks for graciously taking pity on us and dropping this video for us all to enjoy.
It doesn't matter. We are just glad to have you back!!! Hope you are well and welcome back! We missed you!!!
@@mason96575 That girl was a lost cause. Her mom feeding her delusional existence just made her into something that was beyond our understanding. My mom thought I was special too but she didn't let me think I could write a story of lies about my life. I actually had to do things to tell the tale. Lilliee may have given Prim a stumble but he has too many of us for her to make him fail! I had to stop what I was doing to watch this. I had to see if it was really him back!!!
The real mystery is not what happened to Marina Joyce, the real mystery is what happened to Primink
pretty sure he got sued for something lol
@@CaseyCorruptedfor what
@@CaseyCorrupted wait really?
@@ilyjoudi idk friend its speculation based on his "explanation" for being gone haha
@@thevilonesfr it's just speculation on my part based on what he said! probably had to sign NDA stuff so he can't talk about it at all.
Now you’re gone again. Come back. We miss you and love you.
i personally think she could actually have schizophrenia. My nephew had schizophrenia and exhibited a lot of those symptoms. unfortunately, he also did drugs, it was a way to self-medicate. 2 years ago he took his own life. If marina is suffering from mental illness, I pray she gets the help that she needs before it's too late.
What's not touched on in this video is that she talks about her depression because she has MS. It's really weird that he didn't mention it at all.
@@BrennaDrawsalso the whole sam pepper situation was probably a factor.
@@BrennaDrawsdid not know she had MS. That makes a lot of sense. My brother is suffering from it as well
i’m so sorry for your loss.
@@spinelessimp thank you
Primink!! It's been some time, buddy! So glad to see you back, and we hope you're doing alright. :D
Remember to take it easy, though. You just returned, so do things at your own pace! We're here no matter what
'buddy'
you're not friends.
@@jimmybalzac6021 My bad. I tend to call people that, and tbh I'm just happy to see him back. That's all there is to it.
@@scentist_error there's nothing wrong with you saying buddy, it's cute that buddy is what you say when you're happy!
Hey Primink! It's worth noting that later on in the video where she talks about parties she admits she has Multiple Sclerosis, essentially her immune system is attacking her spinal cord or brain. It'd explain some of the personality changes. She seems to be happy and spiritualism is helping her cope. MS used to be a death sentence but nowadays with certain drugs it only reduces your lifespan by less than 10 years or so but it's still a very scary diagnosis to receive. Great video though, it's nice to remember some of the history of creators on this platform.
I was wondering if some of it had a physiological/neurological diagnosis that could explain. I do not personally have MS, but with the groups of people i interact with regularly, it's a thing (thing refering to behavioral, speech, and such changes) I've noticed paired with a wide range of health conditions.
Oh wow thank you for clarifying this
Thats so interesting! I have MS, diagnosed at 15 and im 17 now, when I first got diagnosed i got really depressed (still do) and used a bunch of things to cope because I thought my life was over. Just commenting because she might have gone through the same thing as I did!!
I wish he’d included this because it’s definitely significant, thank you for sharing it!
Can confirm it isn’t a death sentence, my partners dad has MS & he’s in his late 70’s
her last community post: Just got out of hospital after losing my vision but the NHS have blessed me with my vision back and now I’m home and recovering! Just been focusing on my health and getting better so I can keep living on, I will be back with more videos soon just need to heal, so much love my sacred moon kitties ♥♥♥
As someone who used drugs heavily on the past, she was most definitely high in the later videos where she was acting strange. You don’t realise until you get sober how irrational you behaved or acted.
Well the delulu was strong with me, but in this day and age, of course there's VISIBLE evidence of the depths of my ridiculous behaviors and thought process at that time 😬
Yikes!
Cringe isn't a strong enough word...
There's times that I absolutely utterly humiliated myself......
And had no idea that's what I was doing at the time!!!!
😢
I agree! I know someone who was heavy on drug use and watching them become clean from how they used to act to now is just completely different and a lot better for them!
She has MS I believe.
@@lostandfound625it's weird it wasn't mentioned in this video
@@lostandfound625I do as well and the personality change happened to me as well from MS and robotic movements.
I remember being sooo obsessed with this case. I was like 13 and absolutely CONVINCED she was kidnapped. But now after going through what I have with substance abuse I subscribe to the theory that she was going through a drug-induced manic break. Her speech changes, infatuation with spirituality and delusions of grandeur hit very close to home now that I see the full picture. Drugs will change your WHOLE ENTIRE life, forever.
Same i watched those insta accounts like a hawk for updates
I also remember following this. I was so concerned for her and I remember being very confused when she started getting into spirituality.
I’m currently going through this. The speech changes, everything. everything is like a blur, my mother asked if I was on drugs. I said I don’t touch anything but weed, but I’m high all day everyday. Sometimes I’d abuse other things like pills or sleeping medicine. I have ASPD so it’s hard to have that energy to quit because I like the feeling. It’s hard to let go of, but I know one day I’ll be okay, I hope she is okay.
@@blushbb.sending you love, take it one step at a time ❤
“Drugs will change your whole entire life, forever” important to hear
I used to be a fan but after watch this masterpiece I’m a whole air conditioner
Welcome Back Primink!! ♡
I died
I just used this on my husband 😂 he died lol
Nah, you are an HVAC unit.
Almost spit out my coffee after reading this! Saving this comment for use later!!
@@absolutelyalice1754 truly the best thing to be
Ive just recently found your page and I've binged every single video. I'm sure these are very time consuming, but I really hope you continue to make more videos! ❤
I actually burst out into real laughter when she was cut off immediately after "I was actually going to parties" because she probably actually had SO much to say in that video and realistically all we needed to hear was that she was partying and we would've all been like "oh word. ok"
yeah she did, he cut out the whole rest of the vid where she talks about having MS /:
@@piercetvenjoyer2003 What is MS?
@@VictariozMultiple sclerosis
@@Victarioz ^ yerp multiple sclerosis, she talked about how her brain was basically dying and thats why she was laggy and talked weird. she also said she "cured" it with holistic medicine and weed so take from that what you will lol
@@piercetvenjoyer2003 Oh, that's a shame that he didn't acknowledge that at all. My Mum has MS and it can be very bad at times. Nothing you should just skip over, it's an very important detail.
Its really sad, she's been suffering with MS the whole time and is treating it 'naturally' which is so dangerous.
Yeah he didn’t even mention it all he said was “drugs”
What is ms
She has MS? I had no idea. Someone I know has the disease and I always knew it was a bad disease to have, but I never understood the gravity. People with MS truly suffer and are in such a uniquely terrifying place
@@TosyaChanmultiple sclerosis
Where are ppl getting ms? How would a RUclipsr known for his research miss that. Bc it's prolly not true.
I’ve had a drug induced psychosis where I spoke in an accent for like a year, and tbh when you’re going thru a psychosis like this you have noooo idea you’re acting different. I can def see similarities in me and her
I’ve had drug induced psychosis as well. That’s what I immediately thought of watching this video. I’m glad you’re doing better and I hope Marina is too ❤
For a year???? That's insane! I didn't know effects could last that long
@@rawxane some people never recover! Drugs can cause life long psychosis or damage to the brain :( !! I’m lucky mine was only a year. I was def going off the deep end and was not a good person
May I aks what kind of drugs? My brother is an opioid addict dabbling with fentanyl he is a walking corpse , no one knows what to do for him. He's been in and out of jail and rehab for almost a decade. Just wondering how people get better 😊 glad for you!
@@krissyhenderson4089 mine was some LSD that wasn’t actually LSD. Idk what it was, but as soon as I put it on my tongue I could tell it was wrong based off the taste. Probably some sort of chemicals. Later, at a friends house he put meth in some weed were smoking and didn’t tell me. We aren’t friends anymore after that. But I lost my mind for 3 days after that. The last straw was doing MDMA that probably also wasn’t pure MDMA cuz I reacted really strangely to it. And I wasn’t the same after that. I was young and had no guidance whatsoever my whole life… now looking back, I would never do the things I did. I was stupid. And my brain paid the price!!
I thought I was hallucinating when I saw your video on my recommendations. I just can't believe it! You are back and alive and well, YOU ARE STILL HERE! That is, in fact a big achievement! I'm so glad that you are still hanging on. I wish that just like Marina, you have people around you who can comfort you and make you feel safe and sound. Life is tough and I know you are trying. I wish I could give you just a big warm hug. You are still here, Primink. Love youuu
It's good to see you back! I'm sorry that you were going through something serious but it's good that you're okay now!!! Good video!!
@@mason96575 What? I want also some beef, what happend?
@@Creative-Play he never said
@@mason96575there’s definitely some crazy legal action hinted to in the video, hope it gets cleared and we can all know the scoop, but moreover Primink is free to do and speak as he pleases
@@mason96575 You posted it on like three other comments?? and didnt take it down?? so whats the real story
edit: knew it was a bold faced lie lmao
@@lazybugs3952 wasn't a lie- it was an educated guess based on him saying he was being sued three years ago, then confirming in this video he legally cannot talk about whatever happened - and piecing together the very last frame as a hidden message. Take a look at it.
Also, if you look her up she has been suing and copyright striking people nonstop for the past three years. As recently as three months ago.
I don't understand why you're so offended by that and are jumping to defend her. Sorry I hurt your feelings by taking an educated guess.
Welcome back man! No matter the reason you left, your situation is valid and everyone is glad you are here! 💙
Glad? I am fucking over joyed 😆
I like your comment
and he’s gone again 😭😭 see y’all in four years
Good news, he's posting in 30-ish minutes!! 😍
Speaking as someone who is seriously mentally ill and experiences psychotic episodes, the fact that everyone thought kidnapping was the only explanation and turned on her once that was proven untrue is terrifying. People saying she fed into it don't realize that almost nothing she did during that time was thought out at all. She probably thought she was perfectly normal and the concern for her came out of nowhere. She maybe thought she was being trolled and didn't realize the concern was genuine. Psychosis, drug induced or not, literally changes the way you perceive and interact with the world. If you are sick with Lupus, but the world assumes it's cancer based on that time they saw you at a doctor's office, you aren't "feeding into it" by being sick with something else. And it's not okay for people to assume you're lying because they were wrong about what specific illness you have. Her odd behavior was not a calculated move to encourage the kidnapping theory, it was just how she behaved at that time. Also, it's glaringly obvious that this is a mental health issue rather than a kidnapping. The way she spoke is literally a symptom of psychosis in the DSM.
.
mental health definitely wasnt near as big of a topic as it is now. people were much less aware. thankfully thats improved A LOTTTT :)
@@PhylliciaField as a mentally ill person, it hasnt. The rhetoric and semantics has, but its the same if people dont like you or what youre doing.
@@jazzyg6059 THANK YOU! The current narrative actually feels more like gaslighting at a societal level than actual mental health awareness. In the real world, the responses and reactions to mentally ill people feel no different than before. What I actually see is rampant virtue signaling by people whose understanding of mental health doesn't extend beyond pop psychology articles or tik tok videos.
thank you for this comment. Villainizing people with mental illness FOR being mentally ill is some of the most hateful shit imaginable
Holy crap, welcome back! Saw you posted and clicked to your video right away! Whatever you had going on, we just hope you're safe, you're stable, and you don't feel shy around us! Your content literally got me and my wife through covid! I think we can all be patient as you settle back in!
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO🎉😊
I like your comment
@@Hollowdude15i bfq
I saw a video from you pop up and literally stared at my phone and went “oh. My. God.” I AM SO HAPPY YOU’RE BACK! I hope all the legal stuff is behind you and you’re doing okay! Welcome back to RUclips, Primink!
“dw guys im finee” leaves for 2months
Good to see you back, Primink!
I saw this pop up and yelled "WHOA!" out loud. You were missed dude. So happy to see you back.
My theory was always that she started using drugs and it changed her personality enough for people to notice a considerable change and she realized how much attention she was getting from people asking about it so she decided to lean in to the conspiracies and just act strange as hell while pretending like everything was the same. That or it was an homage to the RUclipsr and influencers who actually do those types of things.
I feel like mental illness has to be involved in some way
as an autistic person, she just sounds neurodivergent. i dont know why people are making such a big fuss, this is normal to me.
@lemonmeat except she didn't always act like this. Also I've never met an autistic person who speaks like this. This is more like someone in a psychosis or something
No she's clearly into BDSM stuff and if it makes her come to get slapped who are we to judge her?
@@lemonmeat i think people were making a big deal because it seemed like a complete shift in personality for her. the shift to that behavior seemed like it was because of drug abuse rather than being born neurodivergent. all of the mannerisms she displays now didn't exist when she was a teenager/young adult. drug abuse can permanently alter your brain as well so even if she isn't currently on drugs they still could potentially effect the way she acts to this day. she could have had some underlying mental illness that the drugs could have exacerbated but we'll never know for sure. i'm also neurodivergent and imo there's definitely more factors to it than just being born neurodivergent or developing those traits naturally later in life. i do wish the best for her though and she seems to be doing a little better so let's hope she continues to improve.
Not me going to rewatch old Primink videos just to see a new vid posted😱watched immediately! Glad to hear you’re not dead👋🏽
This video was 7 months old by the point you commented 😭 I mean I guess it's "new" in the sense that it wasn't over three years old but still 💀
Happy to see you posting again! Just wanted to let you know that Marina also has Multiple Sclerosis. It can attack your brain and cause many different neurological issues. It can affect the physical actions involved in producing speech and how your voice sounds. It may also change your understanding of language and the thought processes needed in deciding what to say. Really wishing her the best in the future. Glad you're back!
Yeaaah i was wondering if it was something neurological...
Do you have anything backing that up? Has she come out and said she has MS at any point in time?
@yotetoob yes she has said it herself. She also claimed to have cured it with alternative medicine or something along those lines iirc
I've been looking and found literally nothing on this. Would love to know how you came to this conclusion
@@yotetoob Marina released a video called "SAVING MARINA JOYCE - My Story" in which she details her struggle with mental health and MS
You were missed. I hope all is well and, for purely selfish and nosy reasons, I hope you’ll share where you’ve been, someday.
I always knew it was substance/psychedelic abuse. It was obvious with the nonsense she was saying in those “goddess” rants and the whole “near death experience” video she made. Plus her pupils always looked giant in most of her videos indicating she was under the influence of something. Psychedelics can really mess you up mentally if you’re not careful. And I find it so funny people can’t just accept her odd behavior change was from substance abuse. If you’ve ever done anything as much as weed, it’s glaringly obvious.
ALOT of her behaviours could also be explained by schizophrenia/mental illness. ESPECIALLY her inappropriate affect during videos. Im wondering if she has a predisposition to mental illness, and the drugs caused drug induced psychosis ?
I was thinking the same too. Psychedelics mess you up terribly if not done correctly or abused, and some of her actions like the “schizophrenia” can be directly explained by this. Some psychedelics are linked to schizophrenia, especially in developing brains. Considering her age when all this stuff was going down, her brain was still probably developing. She is 26 as of 2023.
It's def a lil odd how drugs are often the last thing people think of when it comes to RUclips "drama".
I grew up around drugs and could tell from her eyes. I had no idea what exactly, because im not her, but my god her eyes were like saucers
I always thought she was either on drugs or going through some type of psychotic breakdown. I never bought into her being kidnapped, but I always thought maybe she made a new group of friends since she was becoming a big RUclipsr (and I would see her pics allll over Tumblr lmfao) and they got her to experiment with drugs
This youtuber gives me such bad trust issues, just when I thought he was back he left again without notice😮
There are a ton of comments welcoming you back; me too.
Your fears are warranted, and I understand it.
I want to tell you that your scripting, your editing, and your project in this video are on point. You are still you, and I am so proud of you for pushing through what it is that kept you away. It is not our business unless you, yourself, decide to share it.
So.
*WELCOME BACK AND GREAT JOB ... GREAT FREAKING JOB.*
It's great to hear your voice and know that on some level... you found your happiness again in order to return.
Thank you for this :)
@@Priminkwe love you and adore you please dont disappear again need the content you made as food for thought and also to play it while in the shower so i dont fight with myself in the shower 😂
I always figured Marina was on drugs. Either that, or some mental health issues. I can’t imagine having my worst moments caught on camera daily. As a recovering addict, I can say that no one can help Marina until she wants the help. People can force you through withdrawals, sure, but that doesn’t change the addiction and more likely will just cause resentment and make a person sink to even lower depths. If you take away a person’s drug of choice and they’re not ready for change, it’s more than likely that they will become desperate and move on to something even more dangerous. What an addict needs more than anything is love. Not enabling but not “tough love” either, just unconditional love. An addict already feels unlovable and ashamed, you need to show them that you will be there for them no matter what, you don’t judge, and you’ll help them through the process whenever they’re ready. In the meantime, focus on their other issues, because drug use is rarely _the_ problem, not initially anyway, it’s a symptom. A lot of people may use drugs but those that actually become helplessly addicted have real problems, maybe trauma or mental health problems or an abusive situation or loneliness or physical pain. A new environment and new friends does also help, since addicts usually withdraw from others and/or band together - at the very least, try to give them company (as a friend or a family member or partner) and other stuff to do. That’s a good start. The rest is up to them.
(Also, IT’S PRIMINK, holy mf)
i was under the impression shes off c*caine
I absolutely love your response. I've been through rehab, I've been through detox, mental health facilities, and ruining my own life through addiction since 2017. But it wasn't until about two years ago that I for the first time in my ENTIRE LIFE was able experience stability and real unconditional love with the people around me. And that's when suddenly the cravings lessened, the need for mind altering substances lessened, the inability to be comfortable with being alone with myself lessened. Rehab didn't help. Immediately relapsed, even after months in there. The mental hospitals didn't help because I always felt invalidated and not heard. But this new life I've started leading has given me the want and drive to do better. And it's thanks to the love those around me are able to give me.
I hope if it was drugs for Marina, she's able to get help in the same ways I was. She deserves it. Thanks for reading my rambles. ❤️
❤
She wasn't on drugs lmao. She had mental issues
10 years clean.. no N/A, no rehab. You are right. Most of us need to be loved through our hard time. Only we can make the change. We're more likely to do so with love. "Tough love" forcing things on people is bs.
Her behaviour honestly just seemed like someone high as shit on MDMA and some psychedelics. I’ve seen people have the same revelations like wanting to become a god after death and coming back to talk to someone while high and also the strange arm movement is similar to what most people on a comedown or withdrawing experience. I don’t think she was mentally ill at all just on a few drugs.
Well people who get manic or psychotic when on drugs have mental illness. What i mean with this comment is that mental illness is not inherently a bad thing and it's very common. If we stop seeing it as this really bad shameful thing, people like Marina will seek mental help instead of turning to shamans who give them drugs.
Which isn't mutually exclusive. There's significant comorbidity between mental health disorders and substance abuse.
She was confirmed by multiple friends to be regularly taking drugs, specifically psychedelics so you are correct!
@@randomname24680 I’m aware but it definitely didn’t seem like both.
THIS! looks like it led her into spiritual delusion
Prim Prim disappeared... again... 😢
OMG?! did I just jump into a new reality?!!!!
I am SO HAPPY you’re back!
Sending you so much love Primink!!! ❤
Yes lol my exact thoughts we manifested this 😂
On one hand i have a desire to know the ins and outs. On the other im just incredibly glad she was able to maintain this level of privacy throughout all of that.
he just stopped uploading....nothing happened to keep private
@@InZaynethey are talking about Marina
@@InZayne"she" as in Marina 😊
Yes indeed - given all the quite disturbing conjecture about her mental health, drug use etc(instead of, you know: just being a human who did a weird project that blew up more than expected, and who has other things going on in her life aside from RUclips) - if her privacy bubble had been burst, she'd have had to move to Antarctica to maintain a semblance of normalcy! It's disturbing to see so many people speculating about her mental health, possible diagnoses etc - as if her health was their play thing. It's so damaging, especially for those struggling and who need help. Encouraging self-diagnosis can be so dangerous.
@@InZaynelol
Honestly this is so nostalgic to me lol I remember being 14, staying over at my grandma's place during summer break with my cousins and I showed them these conspiracy videos and we would spend our days theorizing and checking for new videos everyday
bro same
Good ol days
I really hope u post another video soon Primink. This really made my day so much better😁
I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU POSTING AGAIN!!! I hope you're alright, Primink!!!
I like your comment
@@Hollowdude15 Thank you, Hollow!
It’s giving Britney Spears vibes. The way she can’t stand still while being on camera, swaying from one foot to the other. Definitely a nervous habit, not necessarily from drug use, but certain drugs definitely have a lasting effect on your behavior and nervous system. Lithium being one of them. Which is also a popular drug to give people who have schizophrenia and such. But just like the Britney situation I don’t think we’ll ever know the whole truth unfortunately. And also, people in this mental state can FEEL like they’re just fine when they’re actually not, because they get so used to it, which is why it’s so hard to convince some people to get treatment.
The whole situation of it is like what Britney is going through on the other side too - all the absolutely wild conspiracies about her being replaced bc one tiktoker posted an obviously manipulated video and claimed it was a filter glitch (like guys, we all know how to use cap cut in on some level bffr) to the claims on her mental health and drug abuse, and now that she is getting divorced it’s back to shaming her for her posts and saying she’s on drugs… and it’s like people PLEASE we will never know, we have no right to know and she is just trying to cope from 13 years of trauma that included pumping her full of lithium… obviously she is going through it, will continue to go through it but there’s no conspiracy or neat little answer that will wrap it up. Life & humans are complicated and that included influencers & celebrities lives and humanity
I mean im adhd/autistic and i cant stand still either. It doesn’t inherently mean a bad thing
Marina is one of those leftover scene youtubers who started on the internet way too young and definitely suffers because of it. The internet feeds on this kind of stuff, whether its intentional or unintentional- look at Eugenia Cooney. The more that people talk about these youtubers(Marina and others), the worse they get, and I really do feel so bad about it.
Oh don't get me started on Cooney or Like i call her Jane skellington
Erm, I feel like you're looking for a connection between the two
@@SelinaCaterm i feel like you’re ignoring the similarities
@@ozus8092correlation is not causality
This was a blast from the past, haha. I had forgotten about it, but now I remember when this was going on. From the start my theory was mental illness or drugs. She's at the right age for a lot of mental illnesses to first show and she did display a lot of traits from that. Seems like she is doing better now, but like you said, it definitely changed her. I feel bad for all the hate and ridicule she had to endure, it definitely can't have made it better.
I've been toeing the line of psychosis myself for the last six months and it was when I thought I had gotten better my friends really started worrying for me. Which was scary as fuck because I was like "No, I know I've been unwell, but this is real this time" and just felt like the entire world turned against me. Before that I still had the wherewithal to understand that I was acting crazy even though I couldn't help it. But after that I truly felt I had come out of it. I still kinda do. And I still haven't gone into full blown psychosis, just borderline.
Regardless of if it's drugs or mental health I really hope she has a good support system and is well.
Primink! I missed you!!! Hope you’re doing okay. Always love your humor and your storytelling abilities. You do so much research and make us laugh with every video. I hope the stuff you’re going through ends in your favor and that you keep being you ❤
As someone who did a lot of psychedelics in high school/early college and came out the other side okay, but DEFINITELY different than how I had been before, I wish people would have had more empathy for her directly after the whole SaveMarinaJoyce thing ended. Especially if she was still in the midst of it, and much of her strange tweets say that she probably was. If I had had my behaviors and ramblings during that period of my life psychoanalyzed by the entire internet WHILE it was happening?? Yeah, I’d be kinda fucked up afterwards too!
Bipolar disorder. People with the disorder can be perceived relatively normal until their reamblings start. RUclips is a great place to ramble... Mania often leads to psychosis and the longer you stay untreated the bigger the rabbit hole goes. My friend was like that, started with high energy, then drugs and psychedelics, then more delusions, then more drugs and delusion. He found himself becoming god and the master of "frequencies" and later killed himself when it all came crashing down. He was forced in to psychatric care once, but way too late and was to far in to his delusions so no treatment or motivation to do so, after all he was god in his own mind. Scary stuff, 4 years from being a normal friend to dead.
Yep!
I left a comment, but I'd say it's a combination of the booger sugar and psychedelics if she partied a lot. I rave frequently, and have my own experiences. Ran into a few Marina-Like people at parties/raves the past month alone.
to me personally it seems like a combination of substance abuse and a manic episode, the change in voice pitch, rapid speech, god complex, it’s all there.
Y’all have no idea lol
@@Ribbited omg I want to get into the raving scene sooo bad, but I have NO idea how and where to find the info abt the parties 😅 How do you find out?
On the realest note, I am so happy you're back. I have been having a shitty time recently, today in particular has been awful at work and I came to a room to cry. And when I got in the room to cry, I pulled out my phone and saw your video.
I still cried, but seeing you posted a video has made the tears worth it. Thank you for coming back, we've missed you ♥️
I'm really sorry you're having a rough go of it. Here, take a mom hug.
i know it doesn’t change anything but sending love your way ❤
Thank you, I needed that ♥️
Instant dopamine! Sending positive vibes! 🪬
As a nurse I feel you. Really really hope something great happened today or just that the day’s over and you get to relax now 🙏🏽❤️🩹
the final ‘explanation’ video (if you can call it that) was actually how she was not only taking drugs but suffering with MS which she claimed has been completely cured by ayurvedic medicine and becoming spiritual; which is false, ms cannot be cured and treatment is focused mostly on managing symptoms. i really hope marina sees what she’s doing can be damaging to herself, it’s honestly crazy what she’s been through.
also turns out her boyfriend at the time was supportive but take that with a grain of salt since it came from the explanation video which is already questionable anyways
I feel like the kid whose dad Finally came back from getting milk/cigarettes. 😂Thank God! So Happy to see you're back, you have been missed my friend
Really! I trolled social media looking for him😂 just to be certain that he was o.k & alive