shane in his statement leaving the beauty community: “i’ve never been in drama or tried to destroy another youtubers career EVER” *bobby burns enters the chat*
I feel so bad for bobby, he had so much potential and shane pretty much shit all over it. Bobby was great and had alot to offer but when shane got involved things started to spiral.
Ok granted if someone’s mom asked me if I wanted to kill their child I would be pretty breathless after too. Cause like. What kind of question even is that?
Also the fact that shane Dawson buying a car is like any regular person buying a fucking sammitch. When the car was destroyed was probably a mere drop in the ocean in relation to Shane’s income
honestly and lie detector tests are very flawed as is. It detects nervousness. You can be nervous about someone thinking you are lying, and then fail the test even though you are telling the truth
@@laneyb8911 yeah polygraph has been discredited for years. didn't a guy do a test on a plant? on the bright side the guy who made it created wonder woman, so that's cool.
that's exactly why I will always refuse to take one. I have Anxiety Disorder and severe Social Anxiety so I probably would fail the question where I say my name or birth day. I despise lie detector, they do not work.
Exactly! If I was forced to take one every single answer I gave would be marked as a lie. I start sweating and getting anxious when there’s a lot of pressure or when everyone’s watching me.
that’s so messed up how shane didn’t even tell his fans to back off bc they were ruining bobby’s career. usually some youtubers tell their fans they don’t want to spread any hate to that person but ig shane didn’t care. i would think he would care a lot especially if they were so close, smh
Sure, he could tell everyone to fuck off but do you really think that will do much? He has zero control over his own fanbase. Just like any other RUclipsr. And he unlisted the videos and changed some titles so he obviously had to care at least a tiny amount for what was happening to Bobby.
I think he was butt hurt about Bobby seeing thru his bullshit and calling him out. His ego was hurt and wanted to punish Bobby. So he approached it the Shane way by painting a clear target on Bobby's head aka labelling him as a hater, and then put him in a series of videos to strip away at any points of sympathy that his stans may have towards Bobby, and also make himself look like a nice guy trying to do nice guy things but oops didn't think anyone would come for Bobby
Thank you soo much for having compassion! I was feeling so upset after seeing how people are starting to have no sympathy for people. I'm glad to see you are the type to care about others.
Rainbow Doodler209 True, I absolutely hate it when people don't care about each other, and then they wonder why the world is such a bad place. Well for one thing, you guys choose to be negative and hate people all the time, then you wonder why everyone hates you back. I get that sometimes people can get bullied without a reason, but there are many others in the world who are also super sweet and they don't deserve to be hated.
I just never thought Bobby made good content I tried to watch his stuff after shane introduced him but I honestly forgot he existed like a month after the series came out. I didnt even know all of this stuff happened after the series ended... yikes
@RyanZ I mean I'm 26 and love Shane but I never said mean things to Bobby. Sucks that people did that but Shane has a very diverse fan base it's not all of us who are rude.
I saw the Bobby video around 13? I mean, I’m still an adolescent, (15, my dude), but I never sent hate, taken his theories as facts, or regarded someone he liked as “royalty.” (Not too crazy about Trisha, sorry😂. I’m just trying to use myself as an example.) Yes, there are a loud toxic part of the fandom, but what fandom doesn’t. It gets a little annoying how the group people immediately blame is “14 year old girls.” Also, I’m not just being a defensive moron (ik I sound like it tho😂, but shhh). Please don’t read this as an aggressive rant, I’m just trying vocalize that the fans are all different ages, and not just a bunch of kids. (I’ve seen som grown af MOMs going OUT on people.) Sorry if I bothered any of you tho matesss.
RyanZ lol I am a 14 year old girl and I love Shane. And I can say that yes, I do do some of the things in the OP’s comment. I see now that that’s wrong now. Time to change!
The way Shane basically dumped Bobby was so disgusting. The only thing that's even more disgusting is how the masses are only admitting it now. Nobody had Bobby's back and everyone was busy kissing Shane's ass. Oh the hypocrisy.
This video is hella telling now. I read that basically Shane love bombarded Bobby which is a manipulative and abusive tactic and it’s SO TRUE. Shane took a young kid with anxiety, flew him to his house and started gifting him really expensive gifts while filming him 24/7. That made feel Bobby indebted to Shane and even more anxious around him. Shane Dawson completely broke that kid and threw him away when the whole confronted my hater didn’t benefit him anymore.
He groomed him to put it simply. It’s such abusive tactic and it’s honestly sad... even worse that Shane’s fans made everything worse and tire this guys mental state apart.
@@lunarialoonatic the saddest thing is that shane fans are still defending him. I was arguing with a butthead like that only yesterday. They still think shane is some good samaritan who is being misunderstood. Someone once said when you've been bamboozled long enough you tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. It's pathetic
These are the same people that if Bobby committed suicide would be crying about mental health awareness and bullying. The internet is so nasty sometimes, and breeds hate because people can hide behind their screen for protection.
To be fair we shouldn’t make it a 1:1 comparison. I don’t always think it’s the “exact same people” who bully and harass who go right around and preach not to bully and harass. People who don’t even know Bobby could still say bullying is wrong and condemn that behavior, while the people who did bully could just say nothing and continue to be awful people.
And he definitely isn't the only evil person to pass a polygraph. Lie detector tests are really unreliable. They should just be called anxiety meters. Nervous people like Bobby will fail even though they're telling the truth, while psychopaths like Ted Bundy never get nervous and will pass even though they're lying.
Well Shane won't be doing any more series on Yt for awhile or if he does he won't be making money on it. I wonder what working in the real world will be like for him.
Bright blue The guy who created the machine even said that it wasn’t made to be a lie detector test, and even stated that they were using his machine incorrectly. John Larson(the original inventor) came to hate his machine before he died, stating that he wished he never made it, because he felt that law enforcement was abusing it, since it was only designed to measures stress, and was extremely inaccurate to use it in the way officials were.
I had a realization about Bobby Burns.... By giving him a car, Shane was basically love bombing Bobby. Instead of a good faith gift, it was an overwhelming gesture designed to engender loyalty/feeling of indebtedness. And then, through video titles and manipulation, Shane eroded Bobby’s sense of self over the courage of the series. And then didn’t stop his stans from going on the war path. The car wasn’t a nice gesture... it was part of an abuse pattern.
yeah I thought that was pretty obvious too. You have to say no to these type of presents, but obviously I get how difficult/impossible this was for Bobby in the situation. Who knows how staged that whole series was anyway
I just love how the poor guy got in a _literal car accident_ and all his haters could worry about is how he "destroyed Shane's Jeep", as if he did it on _purpose_ EDIT: I feel like my original comment made it sound like I was worried more about the jeep than Bobby. To clarify, I'm chastising the people who ignored the fact that someone got into a _literal car accident_ and instead focused on an inanimate object that can be replaced. But yeah thanks to everyone who understands what I mean.
Also, if it’s a gift it’s not “Shane’s jeep“ now is it? This Shane character strikes me as a very narcissistic type who does these “ good deeds“, which are absolutely preposterous, like giving someone he doesn’t even know a new car, as a way to make himself look good. Nothing more. It’s very much like the Oprah God complex
I always found it funny how he saw someone calling him out for racism and emotional manipulation, intentional or not, and he decided to go "hm... hes just being a hater."
Lmao if you'll see the way he treats his crew that give him fair advice when he was making his movie you'd get straight away why he took Bobby's very fair criticism so personally that he felt the need to crush his career. Shane is also famous for snapping back at any and I mean anybody who criticized his content on Twitter with bullshit excuses like "I haven't slept for days and only ate and drank redbull so fuck off" like he is being held hostage and chained up in basement by his fans.
That part where he gave Bobby a car made me feel uncomfortable. I had friends who love bombed me and then made me feel I was indebt for everything they gave to me. When I tried to leave the group to save my sanity they became aggressive with me and ganged up on me, then threatened to throw me out of our thesis group. Then they tried to act like the victim and said that I was ungrateful for everything they gave to me. It made me feel like shit and I forced myself to act normal and be friends again for the sake of graduating and my diploma. Thank God I survived that dark part of my life though because of the experience I no longer trust people and I don't know how to keep lasting relationships with other people anymore. You really need to be careful with people and try to figure out what their true intentions are.
Shane tried to weed out anyone that could start an uprising against him to expose him. With the most likely man to do that now under his control, he was safe... Shame it wouldn't last forever.
I bet everyone wished they listened to him now lol. I was supportive of his video on Shane and was so confused why everyone was saying it was bad and just a video about hate, it felt like a standard critical video about a youtuber. It was like Shane Dawson's fandom was gaslighting me fr 😂😂
The question “are you using my bf” and “do you want to kill my son” threw Bobby so off guard that is probably why the lie protector said he was lying. The lie protector follows breathing and blood pressure. It worked but isn’t accurate on “lying”. Edit: wow uh thanks for the likes
@@macksies420 Well yeah, he would have been thinking "What if, when I say no, the machine somehow says I'm lying, and then everyone thinks I want to kill Shane Dawson even though it's not true?!"
Also how can you be asked that and not feel like you’re using someone who bought you a car and invited you to have a part on his channel? I mean even if he knows he’s not using him, it would be hard in those moments to not feel guilty to some extent and the test will read that as a lie.
Pearl Shane published a statement on Twitter a few days ago (now deleted) where he confessed that he was aware of the james charles’ take down that jeffree star and tati planned last year. He basically justifies all the horrible things jeffree starfish does and still thinks that falsely accusing a teenager (james charles) of sexual assault allegations is “tea” and that “he deserved a piece of humble pie because he has a big ego” and so. It’s a bit of a mess so if you wanna know the details just see the recent videos about that from channels like smokey glow, itzkeisha, or angelika oles. They covered the whole situation.
@@jazzmynee6980 lol I took a look, I feel bad that this is where his career led him since he didn’t seem to want to do content like that a while ago, but he looks good!
Yes, lie detector tests can't detect lies. It's a common misconception the law enforcement likes to perpetuate, because it gives them a way to trick people. It mostly detects your stress levels, because in theory, people get nervous when they lie. But people also become nervous for millions of other reasons. For example being suspected of lying and put to the test. Lol. The law enforcement uses it as a trick. To determine how nervous someone is and how they'll react after being told that they failed the test. Some people crack and confess to crimes out of stress and their own ignorance. It’s kind of fitting that Shane used it on Bobby. Shane's a master manipulator and Bobby was an easy target for Shane due to Bobby's anxiety.
I've seen so many true crime shows where the real murderer gets ruled out as a suspect temporarily because they passed a polygraph. Those stone cold murderers can pass polygraph tests because they're psychopaths and can stay calm under pressure. I would never agree to do a test like that because I'm a nervous wreck and the test would probably say I'm lying, even if I'm not.
Lie detectors are bullshit some cops tried to use it to see if these dudes were the ones that actually killed this dude(one of them did the other just watched) and the one that killed the dude ended up getting away while the one that watched got a lot of years in jail just goes to show it doesn’t tell if you are lying it shows if you are nervous the one that killed the dude is locked up now I think he got out I don’t know but the dude that killed tricked the whole system the man was a psychopath he murded someone because he was bored and he walked around for years without any suspicion and after the trip in korea he went back to America (the murder was American he was just visiting)
@@sirbuffalo they also look at body language and many other way so 95 procent of the time law enforcement does a good job the other 5 may be lying but life's not fair so yeah law enforcement people are people like you and me so they can make mistakes but at least it's just 5 procent
He got in a car crash, and instead of everyone saying, "Oh my god! Bobby, are you hurt?" Everyone said "Wow bruh. No drinking and driving, plus Shane paid a lot for that car!" That's unfair and what did he do to deserve those negativity?
Madelyn Barhorst I know he shouldn’t but that shouldn’t be the main reason why people talked about it they should have cared about it they should have cared about his Heath and if this is affensive I’m so sorry
bobby was ahead of his time period. if shane didn’t manipulate and ruin his career, he would’ve been probably one of the first large commentary channels.
like in the same space as cody ko. even w his music, feels like if he was able to continue being outspoken and funny he could’ve made some lowkey “satirical” songssss idk 😭 idk why i see that. BOBBYYY COME BACK WE’LL BE UR FOUNDATION FANBASE😭
i mean we are talking about the guy who basically made everyone realize how similar are the youtubers apologies, he's a very clever guy who would have been one of the top creators if shane didn't stick is fat unhyganic nose into bobbys business
@@casper3105 I think Bobby was the first youtuber to point out flaws in youtuber apology videos and damn did he open my eyes lol. He's clearly an intelligent kid and I wish he'd go back to his old content. Nothing against his new rap content coz if it's what makes himself happy he should go for it, but I feel like his old content was really the best of all that he made. I felt like I was being gaslighted by Shane's fans when they kept trying to tell me Bobby's content is bad and he's untalented and all that jazz lmao, I found them to be really good actually. Way better than all of Shane's "documentaries".
@@daphnedaphn3 bobby is intelligent but also anxiety ridden and had a very fragile sense of self. Shane saw that and capitalized on it, just like Jeff Satan did with Tati's desire to fit in (not that she's 100% innocent either). They are manipulators cut from the same cloth
Shane has always reminded me of the kids in high school who acted so sweet and kind to their friends and so the staff thought they were ideal students and angels, but were constantly backstabbing "their friends", manipulating them, and were assholes to everyone else.
Not really. What Shane did here was crappy, but to assume someone is a complete monster is terrible. What he did here was absolutely wrong, but to assume conspiracy over that? Isn’t that a bit rude, no offense meant. I feel really bad for Bobby. He didn’t deserve that. But you shouldn’t say that. That’s rude. Shane isn’t gonna get better by saying that Shane is a high school stereotype. Please don’t kill me after saying this.
You can even see his body language show his anxiety and being caught off guard with the question. I'd gasp and hold my breath if that was thrown my way. Bobby had great potential and it sucks to see the decline of it. Hopefully he returns to show us what's next.
lie detector tests (or polygraphs) use a thing called the galvanic skin response, which basically shows if a person sweats or not, which of course is a result of plenty of things (among mistruth, yes), but on the flip side, there are some people who can lie and stay completely static, meaning their polygraph incorrectly shows a truth when they actually lied. in conclusion, polygraphs suck and bobby deserved better :(
Xander xns well he’s not using Shane, he’s just really fake , he only began being nicer to him when he and Shane talked. He criticized him in his video but couldn’t do that same face to face.
Julian Pena yea most people are like that. But Shane’s fans were specifically hating on Bobby because he was “using Shane.” Which is stupid because Shane brought him on. Also wouldn’t you be nice if the person bought you a car for no reason ?
Xander xns yeah I agree people from Shane’s fans are over reacting and are attacking him way too much , but Bobby didn’t know he was gonna get a car , he didn’t have to be nice when Shane first questioned him , he said in his videos that he hated Shane’s videos but didn’t say the same when Shane asked him and confronted him.
Julian Pena well if the videos and the series were preplanned and they’d already planned on doing the series (like primink said), then they’d probably already had a confrontation privately and gotten over most of that stuff. which would mean that there’d be no reason for bobby to be rude or confrontational in the video.
Poor guy, he seems like a sweet kid that got wound up in a bunch of bullshit and lost himself in the process. I hope he can develop his love for film and do what he loves, feel better.
@@kaeruikaisen. I looked into this and I can't find a thing. You say it's everywhere tho. The only thing I found was that friend of his liked to talk to minors. Could you be getting that mixed up? If you have proof I would love to see it.
Didn’t Bobby Burns say he’s been watching Shane since 2014? He did and Shane said he had a feelings Bobby was actually a fan and Bobby was! So sad Shane did this to one of his fans...
I feel really bad for Bobby,Shane just kind of lifted him up and dropped him.Also he clearly has anxiety and visual tics,so maybe don't do a lie detector test?Also lie detector tests detect lies in plants so PERIOD
shane should NOT have gifted him the car. that was a very manipulative move. he intentionally led bobby into a river of debt. he very clearly has horrible anxiety during the lie detector test.
it’s messed up for them to say he “wrecked shane’s car” it was a gift to him and i mean come on. if he was having money issues would he purposely wreck a car?
alexcia m it’s like they value an object more than the human being, it’s so upsetting. I can’t imagine how that made him feel. Like imagine getting into a car accident, and everyone is mad at you for it. It’s just crazy.
I’m honestly not a fan of him but that’s the dumbest thing I have heard. Who the hell would crash their car on purpose. I love Shane but his fans are really toxic and they seem to find anyway possible to hate on Bobby.
I guess it just get's to point where people forget that their favourite youtuber or celebrity is really just another human. People begin to see them as some sort of untouchable god and value them more than anything. At the end of the day, they didn't really understand the gravity of the situation, all they could see was them having to defend Shane from some "hater" that was trying to destroy him or something. They lose their mind and devote their everything to this one guy.
the people who said he wrecked Shane's car were probably immature kids who don't know better. IF Shane had just given him money things still probably would have ended badly for this kid. He is simply a jealous kid trying to use bullying as a way of getting attention. I wish Shane had just ignored his hate video. I know I'm ignoring him.
I had no idea this happened to him until now, I was even wondering where he went, because he seemed like a chill guy overall. The situation could've easily escalated to something very dangerous and what seems to matter most is the integrity of the car. I'm officially uninstalling my faith in humanity.
I actually feel so bad for Bobby because everything was new for him, he felt trapped by all his new fans and he just couldn't handle that situation, that's so sad
That's what fame does to you. Some people make the right choice and control themselves and live freely and not give a fuck what people want from them, others choose the wrong choice and let their followers control them. He made the wrong choice
@@Eraeyan Plus the fact that he was so young when this shit went down didn't help...I couldn't imagine being 20 and having all this anonymous hate directed at me, and not come out of it a different person
I still think Shane had a crush on Bobby. Thus why Ryland was so against having him around only because he knew the threat he posed. Once Shane knew nothing was going to happen between the two he let the backlash just to happen.
But it's not really a thing tho. The people who "cancel" maybe sometimes stop watching or buying things from who they think they "cancel" but it never really affects the "canceled" they still making $$$ gaining subscribers. 😂
that lie detector video made me stressed from the start bc he clearly has anxiety issues and ik as someone who also has anxiety issues that those tests dont work on us bc they track ur heart rate... so u'll fail like every question... but u know he's gonna be in hot water with fans when he failed. As soon as I heard that video concept i knew he was done for lol.
Also lie detector tests are bull. You can strap them to plants and get “lie” readings. Even the guy who invented them said they don’t really do anything and they’re not admissible in court.
They don’t work at all(as a whole test). The fact they use them at police stations and the FBI is criminal. Now, some company is trying to create a new biological “lie detector”. It’s crazy
They don't work like that.. you take a base reading. I'm not saying that lie detector tests work, but I am saying that they don't compare it to the average heart rate, they compare it to YOUR average heart rate.
Anaeliseianna having an anxiety disorder doesn’t mean u have a faster heart rate than most people tho.... you get heavy anxiety very easily and often for no reason, it’ll fluctuate and that exact thing is a noted cause of failing a lie detector test regardless of if ur lying.
That’s cause Logan & jake Paul are as big as Shane Dawson. When you have the same fame as someone, you tend to respect them more. But he thought he could walk all over Bobby because Bobby is underneath him in the RUclips world
I trully hope he's ok now. I couldn't finish the Shane's videos. It was too much not worth to watch. Repeating the word "hater" on the videos multiple times was almost like brainwash to his young audience.
So for anyone coming back to this older video and wondering what bobby is up to now, nothing. Hes vanished from the public eye as far as i can tell. His Instagram is deactivated. His last post was two years ago. His last song was 4 years ago. His patreon is deactivated, and his twitter is private. Makes me sad to see the decline of his career thanks to shane.
But thats the thing, if one sees a juicy and really dramatic part, even if it doesnt make any sense or any impact on the video as a whole. They just gon eat that shit up, gobbling it, and thinking up themselves whatever the hell they want.
Yeah, who the hell even takes it seriously? Any personal question might give you a false negative. There's a reason why it's not used as court evidence or anything serious. It's in the realm of crappy reality shows and vlogs.
"Fun" fact, I used to post my drawings on Deviantart, and at first nobody paid them much mind. However, I started posting fanart of Gorillaz in 2010, and that made my art skyrocket so much it took me by surprise. people started to recognize me by my Gorillaz fanart, and then by other types of fanart. At first I was ok with that, but then I wanted to post my own art, my own characters and my own stories. Everything that was my original content was completely ignored and left aside for fanart. People started asking for just fanart of what they liked, and I felt like a factory producing art for everyone but me. Five years ago I abandoned the artist name I had back then, and decided to start from scratch on the Internet. Right now nobody knows me, nobody remembers me, and I can draw whatever I want whenever I want. And I couldn't be happier.
I'm glad you made that choice for yourself. I follow a couple artists who got crazy popular for fanart and had trouble breaking away from that community later on. Would you mind plugging yourself so I can see your work?
I had the same experience!! I got 5k followers in less than a few months bcs of fanart. But then my followers have 0 interest in my original art and telling me tht i should ONLY make fanart. I started new without fanart and have less followers, but i feel way way happier. (im on ig not DA tho so idk if tht relate 😂, @vyansya)
This is the way of all 'Work'..this is why some artist do not want to 'work' as an artist. This is it though..imagine a job as a commercial artist.its just production
I just have to say, lie detectors don't *actually* "detect" lies. It's record the heart and respiratory rate of the person hooked up to it. Meaning: it detects rushes in adrenaline. This can be helpful as (with most people) our heart rates increase quite a bit when we knowingly tell a lie. But I think that if someone asked me if I wanted to kill their son and I was already *hooked up to a lie detector,* my heart rate would skyrocket as well.
Luna...Shane's "lie detector" test was about as real as his Tanacon series. LOL. It was all fake to get a video out and Burns thought it would help him because The King of RUclips, Dawson, told him so.
Actually no, they test how much you believe in what you say not if you're anxious. First they ask you a bunch of simple questions to set a base line so even if your anxious you should be fine
@@sanjanapatwari910 they test your breathing and heart rate. If the situation changes, the base questions can easily been thrown out of the window. If your crush walks in and starts asking you questions, you are highly likely to start failing, because your heart rate and breathing frequency will increase because of the presence of that person. If they ask you an uncomfortable question, it can also show a false positive. There are a lot of factors that can throw the results off even assuming that the person isn't trying to fool the lie detector.
I actually feel really bad for Bobby. Like when Shane’s videos came out about Bobby I saw the flood of hate and accusations and harassment. It made me so sad that this dude was tossed into such a bad situation and eventually fell off the face of the Earth.
I tried leaving supportive comments on his videos when it was at it's worst, but I don't think he ever went looking for that needle in the haystack. It's not like it's possible to recruit the hate-squad to common sense either, we're talking about people who believe in a conspiracy theory about recycled pizza here. It's really sad that a horde of kids that barely have the collective IQ of a bag of doritos have managed to drive him off the platform. I hope he's doing ok.
Ok..true. no one deserves hate. I never even threw hate towards him even tho I didn't support the series. But I'm pretty sure- to this day, believe that Bobby truly did not like Shane and lied (saying he was lying and actually loved Shane-)...like come on💀 plus Shane tried as much as he could but Bobby threw it all away. He broke up w his gf and she deadaas exposed him and his ig is just full of him smoking/doing drugs, drinking, and asking his followers to follow his SoundCloud lmaoo 😌 but idk..I don't know him personally so I'll try to stay neutral about the situation
This poor guy. He had a horrible audience. Seems like he couldn’t please them, no matter how hard he tried to adapt his content. I hope he’s okay now. I hope he has a lot of support. Shane’s toxic fans ruined him.
ive been a subscriber of bobby and im just happy that he's back. tho he gets small amount of views, he looks happier with the videos he recently posted especially the camping and cooking one :)
To me it just seems like a lot of people treated him unfairly. Like Shane was willing to give him a chance, but his audience wasn't? These are the same people who gave JAKE PAUL A CHANCE, like wtf? I just dont get it.
Tbh I never really gave Jake a chance, I watched the series and I could tell he was lying to Shane the whole time. I don’t know for Bobby. I didn’t really jump into any of it, I didn’t jump into hating on him or loving him I just went with it.
Cause its easier to watch a video in which the person you like is in (this case Shane) rather than watching someone who Shane supports and digest said persons content
Shane used him as a pet project for his ego boost and to switch things up on his own channel because he needed a change on his own channel. when it didn't go as planned he dropped him with no hesitation so he would not get caught up in the backlash he himself caused.
So Shane made him turn his life upside down to go work for him, fires him after a month and says, hey it's not going to work but good luck with no job in a city you don't know... And Bobby's the bad guy? I love shane but sometimes he doesn't live in the real world and that sucks
Shane didnt make him do anything. Bobby had a choice to go to california he didnt have to go to California. And he wasnt fired. Bobby said he wasn't fired, he wanted to take a BREAK. But he never went back because of all the backlash. You take things that were dismissed in this video and say that it happened. When it clearly didnt.
@@tweeezersss3479 the thing is the opportunity of working with Shane (which I dont think had ever been a bad thing-) was a LARGE JUMP from where he was.
@CatandBonez you mean throughout, not "threw out". Using the word "cucked" distracts and detracts from your argument, as does implying that there is some kind of LGBT+/feminist cooperate plot. Corporations co-opt LGBT+ and feminist language and symbolism to sell shit, it's a cynical attempt to make money, there aren't any actual feminists or LGBT+ people behind most corporate marketing schemes. You know how during pride there are rainbows all over corporate instagrams but then when pride's over it's like it never happened? If they were actually part of some gay agenda, there'd be rainbows all year round (oh the horror) You know the only gay agenda is to be treated like a human being, right? LGBT+ people aren't trying to take over the world or take away anyone else's rights, they just want the same rights as everyone else. What I'm saying is, you almost made a good point, but you couched it in nonsense.
I’m not an avid Shane enthusiast or hater, but I think this whole this was largely his fault if not entirely. He is literally a RUclips demigod, he brought attention to this youtube novice, made him a member of his team, made it seem like he supported him, gave him a polygraph test (while not researching its validity in an OBVIOUS attempt to dramatize the video), was completely silent when his fandom mauled this guy.... so on and so forth, I don’t know weather or not Shane is a bad person (I don’t know him personally), but that doesn’t matter, he did a very bad thing that ended up really hurting somebody.
fantastic comment, I couldn’t agree more. what shane did was shitty. does that make him a shitty person? idk. but i think he needs to own up to his mistakes and try to help bobby.
I definitely think Shane had good intentions to try and upstart this kids youtube career more but couldn't support him in the long wrong. Good intentions but intentions don't fix problems. I really like the way you stated this. Super good analysis!
괜찮아 u good man? Bobby Burns just started uploading to RUclips again after taking a huge break. He’s back to his cheerful content again and everyone in the comments of his videos are fully supporting him. Trust, it may seem like you’re alone and don’t have worth but people do appreciate you. There’s so much to live for man. Even with the stuff Bobby went through, he’s staying happy and uploading videos again.
Shane’s real hater that we all know of is onision, the only hater he should’ve publicly confronted. Cause honestly who cares if that didn’t work out for onision
Jessica he’s not afraid of criticism at all, especially with the stuff he be saying and doing and with the emails he was sending Shane when Shane was in the middle of controversy not too long ago. I think he’d do anything for publicity. I see what you’re saying tho
Jessica trueeee, it’s funny that he does that tho, while making videos and saying things that he KNOWS will get backlash and would be controversial. 🤦🏽♀️
@@annie372 you know, I should make my own video sharing website and let people post major shit videos about Onision on it and he wouldn't be able to to jack because he'd be banned from the website or making any copyright claims 😂😂😂
He’s mad that some people can drink or smoke socially or recreationally because he can’t. Everyone’s an addict cuz he personally can’t handle his intoxicants. So annoying
I think that Shane’s intentions were good, but his fans are horrible. Edit: Y’all I want to point out that there are also good fans, but they are less outspoken and visible than the toxic ones.
Daddy Dan Is Here! Like some take it sooo wrong and I legit don’t even know how they do this! Like I’ve watched Shane since 2009 and I am so ok with his old jokes even the “black face” ones. But this is 2019 where people legit get so triggered by old stuff but they probably have done worse and won’t say what they have done. They think they can judge everyone since it s the internet and no one knows them.
@@starri__ i agree. Also not everyone has to like the jokes. Its fine. The shit that gets me is this fucking stupid cancel culture, it's the most fucking toxic and hurtful thing ive seen in a very long time.
Daddy Dan Is Here! Ugh cancel culture is pure stupidity like ok you say you like this person and all but the second something that could possibly not be true and is a complete lie to make them look bad happens you switch sides like.. who does that but the second the truth is brought back up most damage is done and it’s like too late. (Ex. Melanie Martinez Vs Timothy Heller bs) I was legit neutral since I didn’t know anything at all but you had people burning merch, throwing it away; like completely destroying it! For what oh yea because they wanna do the whole “guilty until proven innocent bs” but they were quick to switch ones the full truth came out.
That's what Hollywood does to people. Literally look at people before and after moving out to Hollywood and LA. They turn into degenerates, pretentious fucks, etc.
sure, its not like shane didn't call bobby his "HATER" in all parts of his video series, already painting him in a bad light from the start. and dont get me started with his awful lie detector video, how did he even though it was a good idea to upload it is beyond me. if he truly cared i dont think he'd even edit that video.
I remember watching this in real time & I can tell you 100% what it was: *Shane's preteen, underage fans* They were vicious & their comments were completely uncalled for. It was hard to watch. I agree, Shane should've reeled them in.
the sad part is that this is a recurring thing that happens. shane's audience is so big that they often get out of control on his behalf and having so many people to be responsible of is overwhelming especially for someone like him. i just wish whenever situations like this happen shane would be able to have better control over his fans instead of letting it escalate like this
I love that you mentioned the fallibility of polygraphs! I was sitting here like.. are you not supposed to react a little anxiously to someone asking if you want to kill their son? Like I feel like I'm suffocating walking past a cop and I know I haven't done anything wrong.
The conspiracy theories were a 💯 and I used to be an average fan of Shane. But now that he's getting cancelled by all these videos like this one and exposing the manipulative facade, I am beginning to head out of the fandom
i'm starting to really dislike that lie detector administrator. He's on everything and perpetuates the myth that lie detector tests are completely infallible, which he either believes and therefore is not a good scientist whatsoever or he's lying which makes him morally reprehensible for carving out this 'lie detector' for the stars business and making money off tests that can ruin someone's life.
The Vlog Squad was talking about him on one of Jasons videos. They were discussing how it's kind of a known thing that the guy picks and chooses what is "true" and that he gave them all bad vibes.
@coudy WANE I'll have to go dig when I get back home. The video is on Jasons channel and its Jeff Jason Carly Erin and maybe Jonah all standing in Davids driveway talking about it. It was after the video they did lie detector testing the whole vlog squad, but after Trisha was long gone. lol I'll find it and post asap
Just saying, not hating on shane but if he called himself a empath that is an insult to us real empaths again, not trying to hate lol plaese dont kill me
These so called Shane fans who did this are terrible, I’m personally a Shane fan and I would never say the things these Shane fans would say ( not all Shane fans are like this I know)
NO....Shane actually started it. He flew this kid out to interrogate him., It traumatized him. Don't try to absolve the leader of the troupe from guilt....
You know Primink’s videos are good because they age like fine wine. Man does god tier research, drops an iconic video and dips for three months lmao legendary.
@@folddealfeal2740 some people think its bc of a lawsuit hes got, or that hes maybe doing his own show thing. But most people think that Timmys got his revenge...
The whole series (I could be wrong) feels like a huge publicity stunt on Shane’s part. He wanted to solidify that he is ‘a kind person’ by being nice to his ‘hater.’ He picked a random video that got a lot of views and contacted Bobby. Inherently, people are selfish, and Shane seems quite manipulative to the trained eye. He used this opportunity to actively portray himself a certain way to the public by tarnishing Bobby in a more discrete way. He labelled Bobby a hater to his massive fan base, hooked him up to a lie detector machine when he clearly has anxiety, and made Bobby look bad. The fact Bobby made a ‘hate’ video and Shane gave him a car makes Shane look like the ‘hero’ and Bobby, the ‘villain.’ Shane knows how nasty the internet can be and set Bobby up for failure since he can’t take criticism and must be liked by everyone. He sat idly by while Bobby’s life crumbled, making money off of the series while Bobby struggled financially. Shane has a giant platform, whereas Bobby didn’t. He used that to his advantage, which causes me to make this conclusion. Bobby is not the hater. Shane is.
Sarah Ranin lmao way to be an enabler 😂😂😂 dumbass, if the bird uses their broken wing to smack other peoples’ teeth out, it’s still the birds fault for being an asshole. The broken wing isn’t a get out of jail free card 😂 you’re either stupid as fuck or you’re an ignorant child. Educate yourself before making these false equivalencies lmaooo
Eva Taylor they must think I’m attacking their fave, without even bothering to stop for 2 seconds and think about it 😂 or the fact that I’m a fan of both these guys.moh well, that’s what I get for being the “older” person in a sea of mostly 11 year olds I guess.
he literally seemed anxious during the test. as the person testing the other he should know that he would fail because he’s anxious and that throws off the answers
Lie detective tests aren't the most reliable machines to use anyway. It's been proven by Adam Ruins Everything that Lie Detectors only became "popular" because of the Maury Show, which has also been proven to be fake, too. There's also a lot more reasoning as to why Lie Detectors aren't reliable but it's best to watch that episode on Adam Ruins Everything. Edit: lol this kinda have been explained in the video. I didn't notice that lol
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shane in his statement leaving the beauty community: “i’ve never been in drama or tried to destroy another youtubers career EVER” *bobby burns enters the chat*
paige yup
I was wating for someone to mention this
I wondered what Bobby was up to, when all this Shane and jefree shit started. This video came up in my recommend.
yessssssssss
I feel so bad for bobby, he had so much potential and shane pretty much shit all over it. Bobby was great and had alot to offer but when shane got involved things started to spiral.
Ok granted if someone’s mom asked me if I wanted to kill their child I would be pretty breathless after too. Cause like. What kind of question even is that?
Straight up what I was thinking lol
shortness of breath might have been his tourettes
sicardpicard ok but if someone asked me if I wanted to kill someone who just gave me a car I would say a definitely say no 😂
Luc Str content for you my guy
Lowkey also shows how dark shane and his mum probbaly are behind the scenes 🤣
I love how the dude got into a car accident and all Shane’s fans could care about was the car.. like a car can be replaced, however a human cannot.
Also before anyone comes at me, I know not all of Shane’s fans are bad.
@@yellowblob405 bobby could've died but all they cared about was a fucking jeep lmao
Untile we can clone people
@@supresso8313 nah...
Also the fact that shane Dawson buying a car is like any regular person buying a fucking sammitch. When the car was destroyed was probably a mere drop in the ocean in relation to Shane’s income
The sad part is that Bobby was right..
And none listened to him...
What happend
We should’ve known...
@@alpse1112 same 😂 I have no clue who either of these people are?
bobby right wrong dawson
hooking up a boy with anxiety n clear visual tics to a lie detector then holding the results against him is just cruel.
honestly and lie detector tests are very flawed as is. It detects nervousness. You can be nervous about someone thinking you are lying, and then fail the test even though you are telling the truth
@@laneyb8911 yeah polygraph has been discredited for years. didn't a guy do a test on a plant?
on the bright side the guy who made it created wonder woman, so that's cool.
that's exactly why I will always refuse to take one. I have Anxiety Disorder and severe Social Anxiety so I probably would fail the question where I say my name or birth day. I despise lie detector, they do not work.
Exactly! If I was forced to take one every single answer I gave would be marked as a lie. I start sweating and getting anxious when there’s a lot of pressure or when everyone’s watching me.
That was exactly my thought! His tics are very obvious I can´t imagine the pressure of all of that on the kid.
that’s so messed up how shane didn’t even tell his fans to back off bc they were ruining bobby’s career. usually some youtubers tell their fans they don’t want to spread any hate to that person but ig shane didn’t care. i would think he would care a lot especially if they were so close, smh
Shane was spreading the hate
That's because Shane is bias
Sure, he could tell everyone to fuck off but do you really think that will do much? He has zero control over his own fanbase. Just like any other RUclipsr. And he unlisted the videos and changed some titles so he obviously had to care at least a tiny amount for what was happening to Bobby.
Shane always did come off as minipulative to me 🙄
I think he was butt hurt about Bobby seeing thru his bullshit and calling him out. His ego was hurt and wanted to punish Bobby. So he approached it the Shane way by painting a clear target on Bobby's head aka labelling him as a hater, and then put him in a series of videos to strip away at any points of sympathy that his stans may have towards Bobby, and also make himself look like a nice guy trying to do nice guy things but oops didn't think anyone would come for Bobby
“Some don’t like my giggle, I hate those people.” *giggle* I loved it
Kitty Kat lmao that part was funny
So basically, Bobby called out Shane ahead of time..
...And none listened to him
@@lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198 I listened to Bobby burns
His videos was embarassing pls
@@petarvujcic6834 no
Yes and as always, no one listened and Shane fans called him a hater
It's concerning that people care more about a damn car instead of the dude inside during the accident.
Yeah, that right there made me sad.
Thank you soo much for having compassion! I was feeling so upset after seeing how people are starting to have no sympathy for people. I'm glad to see you are the type to care about others.
@@aaAa-bp1yd Of course, I rather care about other people and myself last. Than care about stuff you can easily replace.
true
Rainbow Doodler209 True, I absolutely hate it when people don't care about each other, and then they wonder why the world is such a bad place. Well for one thing, you guys choose to be negative and hate people all the time, then you wonder why everyone hates you back. I get that sometimes people can get bullied without a reason, but there are many others in the world who are also super sweet and they don't deserve to be hated.
"Hes turning into Onision" the worst insult ever
True. No one on yt is like that sicko. Onision should have acct taken away.
that's lower than LOW, I wouldnt even call my worst enemy that
At least he hasn't written any books yet
Does he even still exist? :')
Jeff_Wolf
Onision still exists and has gotten way worse.
Shane's fandom can be really cultish sometimes. If Shane likes someone, they're royalty, if someone dislikes Shane, their career is basically over
I just never thought Bobby made good content I tried to watch his stuff after shane introduced him but I honestly forgot he existed like a month after the series came out. I didnt even know all of this stuff happened after the series ended... yikes
@RyanZ I mean I'm 26 and love Shane but I never said mean things to Bobby. Sucks that people did that but Shane has a very diverse fan base it's not all of us who are rude.
I saw the Bobby video around 13? I mean, I’m still an adolescent, (15, my dude), but I never sent hate, taken his theories as facts, or regarded someone he liked as “royalty.” (Not too crazy about Trisha, sorry😂. I’m just trying to use myself as an example.)
Yes, there are a loud toxic part of the fandom, but what fandom doesn’t. It gets a little annoying how the group people immediately blame is “14 year old girls.”
Also, I’m not just being a defensive moron (ik I sound like it tho😂, but shhh). Please don’t read this as an aggressive rant, I’m just trying vocalize that the fans are all different ages, and not just a bunch of kids. (I’ve seen som grown af MOMs going OUT on people.) Sorry if I bothered any of you tho matesss.
RyanZ lol I am a 14 year old girl and I love Shane. And I can say that yes, I do do some of the things in the OP’s comment. I see now that that’s wrong now. Time to change!
Human trash same
The way Shane basically dumped Bobby was so disgusting. The only thing that's even more disgusting is how the masses are only admitting it now. Nobody had Bobby's back and everyone was busy kissing Shane's ass. Oh the hypocrisy.
Sometimes a hypocrite is a man in the process in changing.
Sometimes.
For most people, they gave Shane a pass because he seemed to be such an uwu boy.
Well put.
O
@@ultimatekunochi6577 I´ve NEVER seen a hypocrite change......
Bobby is not Shane’s responsibility.
This video is hella telling now. I read that basically Shane love bombarded Bobby which is a manipulative and abusive tactic and it’s SO TRUE. Shane took a young kid with anxiety, flew him to his house and started gifting him really expensive gifts while filming him 24/7. That made feel Bobby indebted to Shane and even more anxious around him. Shane Dawson completely broke that kid and threw him away when the whole confronted my hater didn’t benefit him anymore.
I've noticed Jeffree does the exact same thing.
Thank you!
These kinds of abusers so easily slip under the radar.
He groomed him to put it simply. It’s such abusive tactic and it’s honestly sad... even worse that Shane’s fans made everything worse and tire this guys mental state apart.
@@lunarialoonatic the saddest thing is that shane fans are still defending him. I was arguing with a butthead like that only yesterday. They still think shane is some good samaritan who is being misunderstood. Someone once said when you've been bamboozled long enough you tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. It's pathetic
HEY BLINKKKKKKK
These are the same people that if Bobby committed suicide would be crying about mental health awareness and bullying. The internet is so nasty sometimes, and breeds hate because people can hide behind their screen for protection.
FACTS.
FRL
Hannah Warren he has a heart, but he’s naive. (Slight Jeffree star reference there).
@Hannah Warren I'm definitely not hating on shane, I adore him! I'm more talking about the people that send hate comments for the heck of it.
To be fair we shouldn’t make it a 1:1 comparison. I don’t always think it’s the “exact same people” who bully and harass who go right around and preach not to bully and harass. People who don’t even know Bobby could still say bullying is wrong and condemn that behavior, while the people who did bully could just say nothing and continue to be awful people.
Fun fact: Ted Bundy passed 2 lie detector tests. Sooooo
And he definitely isn't the only evil person to pass a polygraph. Lie detector tests are really unreliable. They should just be called anxiety meters. Nervous people like Bobby will fail even though they're telling the truth, while psychopaths like Ted Bundy never get nervous and will pass even though they're lying.
I just compared Shane to him a few days ago!
Well Shane won't be doing any more series on Yt for awhile or if he does he won't be making money on it. I wonder what working in the real world will be like for him.
you can’t rely on those. I told the truth but I still failed mine.
Bright blue The guy who created the machine even said that it wasn’t made to be a lie detector test, and even stated that they were using his machine incorrectly. John Larson(the original inventor) came to hate his machine before he died, stating that he wished he never made it, because he felt that law enforcement was abusing it, since it was only designed to measures stress, and was extremely inaccurate to use it in the way officials were.
Lol this vid hits different after shane got exposed
😭🤣😂
Yeah he wasn't wrong about Shane in the first place.
It really does 😭
Same as Onision. He called it too
He also hints at how hard it is to hit a level of fame without expecting it. No wonder Prim has been gone for over a year
I had a realization about Bobby Burns.... By giving him a car, Shane was basically love bombing Bobby. Instead of a good faith gift, it was an overwhelming gesture designed to engender loyalty/feeling of indebtedness.
And then, through video titles and manipulation, Shane eroded Bobby’s sense of self over the courage of the series. And then didn’t stop his stans from going on the war path.
The car wasn’t a nice gesture... it was part of an abuse pattern.
The behaviour of a psychopath.
yeah I thought that was pretty obvious too. You have to say no to these type of presents, but obviously I get how difficult/impossible this was for Bobby in the situation. Who knows how staged that whole series was anyway
My thoughts exactly, tho I wasnt able to put them into words
Exactly!
Thank you, someone who sees it for what it is!
I just love how the poor guy got in a _literal car accident_ and all his haters could worry about is how he "destroyed Shane's Jeep", as if he did it on _purpose_
EDIT: I feel like my original comment made it sound like I was worried more about the jeep than Bobby. To clarify, I'm chastising the people who ignored the fact that someone got into a _literal car accident_ and instead focused on an inanimate object that can be replaced. But yeah thanks to everyone who understands what I mean.
Idiots
Also, if it’s a gift it’s not “Shane’s jeep“ now is it? This Shane character strikes me as a very narcissistic type who does these “ good deeds“, which are absolutely preposterous, like giving someone he doesn’t even know a new car, as a way to make himself look good. Nothing more. It’s very much like the Oprah God complex
bruh what?💀
@@ourcorrectopinions6824 yeah that part tripped me out too. it was meant to be a gift. i would like to believe shane was sincere about it though.
@@beansprout9908 i was being sarcastic lol
Shane's hater wasn't even a hater he gave him criticism and Shane wrote it off as hate
DEADASS
I always found it funny how he saw someone calling him out for racism and emotional manipulation, intentional or not, and he decided to go "hm... hes just being a hater."
Thats cause hes a brainlet lol
Lmao if you'll see the way he treats his crew that give him fair advice when he was making his movie you'd get straight away why he took Bobby's very fair criticism so personally that he felt the need to crush his career. Shane is also famous for snapping back at any and I mean anybody who criticized his content on Twitter with bullshit excuses like "I haven't slept for days and only ate and drank redbull so fuck off" like he is being held hostage and chained up in basement by his fans.
Facts
That part where he gave Bobby a car made me feel uncomfortable. I had friends who love bombed me and then made me feel I was indebt for everything they gave to me. When I tried to leave the group to save my sanity they became aggressive with me and ganged up on me, then threatened to throw me out of our thesis group. Then they tried to act like the victim and said that I was ungrateful for everything they gave to me. It made me feel like shit and I forced myself to act normal and be friends again for the sake of graduating and my diploma. Thank God I survived that dark part of my life though because of the experience I no longer trust people and I don't know how to keep lasting relationships with other people anymore. You really need to be careful with people and try to figure out what their true intentions are.
That's fucked up... I hope you are okay now.
my god, i’m really sorry to hear hope you’re okay now
jump ahead to now... *Bobby Burns* was right the whole time and *Shane Dawson* ruined this guy.
Shane tried to weed out anyone that could start an uprising against him to expose him. With the most likely man to do that now under his control, he was safe...
Shame it wouldn't last forever.
I always liked Bobby and always knew. Fuck shane
I bet everyone wished they listened to him now lol. I was supportive of his video on Shane and was so confused why everyone was saying it was bad and just a video about hate, it felt like a standard critical video about a youtuber. It was like Shane Dawson's fandom was gaslighting me fr 😂😂
Big Hendery Energy Because Shane’s fandom is stupid
wait what happened? does anyone know?
The question “are you using my bf” and “do you want to kill my son” threw Bobby so off guard that is probably why the lie protector said he was lying. The lie protector follows breathing and blood pressure. It worked but isn’t accurate on “lying”.
Edit: wow uh thanks for the likes
Tbh if someone asked me that i would totally freak out too
he seems to be so anxious after those questions were asked
@@macksies420 Well yeah, he would have been thinking "What if, when I say no, the machine somehow says I'm lying, and then everyone thinks I want to kill Shane Dawson even though it's not true?!"
@@misssummersalt I'd probably be thinking the same thing shit
Also how can you be asked that and not feel like you’re using someone who bought you a car and invited you to have a part on his channel? I mean even if he knows he’s not using him, it would be hard in those moments to not feel guilty to some extent and the test will read that as a lie.
shane is extremely shady, but no one is ready for that conversation apparently
Well now everybody is ready for that conversation finally and I’m so glad to see that.
Amani J. why what’s going on?
Pearl Shane published a statement on Twitter a few days ago (now deleted) where he confessed that he was aware of the james charles’ take down that jeffree star and tati planned last year. He basically justifies all the horrible things jeffree starfish does and still thinks that falsely accusing a teenager (james charles) of sexual assault allegations is “tea” and that “he deserved a piece of humble pie because he has a big ego” and so. It’s a bit of a mess so if you wanna know the details just see the recent videos about that from channels like smokey glow, itzkeisha, or angelika oles. They covered the whole situation.
Amani J. what a fucking mess, these insatiable slugs honestly don’t deserve all the fame and money
Amani J. omg, i deleted my social media so i had no idea! damn, what these ppl do for attention
At least Bobby was right, Shane is a manipulator
The fact that he is on only fans now
@@jazzmynee6980 lol I took a look, I feel bad that this is where his career led him since he didn’t seem to want to do content like that a while ago, but he looks good!
“Are you using my boyfriend for views” as they’re filming Bobby’s lie detector test for views
Ryland can't just shut the hell up. Amongst their group, Morgan Adams is the only one I like.
Cal Kestis what about Garrett?
@@sarah_does_artt4717 I do like him, but I don't see him lately hanging out with them, which is probably a good thing.
Cal Kestis does he have his own RUclips channel? If he doesn’t he should I would watch it all day
@@sarah_does_artt4717 ruclips.net/user/GarrettWatts
I hate that Shane never mentioned him or helped him again. He just ruined this guys life then left him.
I literally see your comments all the time...just thought you should know ig
Makayla it’s not me it’s just someone with the same pfp
Why does everyone have this same pfp?
Ainsley Kelley ikrr he just got bored of him and let his fanbase bully him
hi fellow chicken
The lie detector test was not fair. He seems like he has some kind of anxiety. So it would be hard to pass a detector test.
Yes, lie detector tests can't detect lies. It's a common misconception the law enforcement likes to perpetuate, because it gives them a way to trick people. It mostly detects your stress levels, because in theory, people get nervous when they lie. But people also become nervous for millions of other reasons. For example being suspected of lying and put to the test. Lol.
The law enforcement uses it as a trick. To determine how nervous someone is and how they'll react after being told that they failed the test. Some people crack and confess to crimes out of stress and their own ignorance.
It’s kind of fitting that Shane used it on Bobby. Shane's a master manipulator and Bobby was an easy target for Shane due to Bobby's anxiety.
I've seen so many true crime shows where the real murderer gets ruled out as a suspect temporarily because they passed a polygraph. Those stone cold murderers can pass polygraph tests because they're psychopaths and can stay calm under pressure. I would never agree to do a test like that because I'm a nervous wreck and the test would probably say I'm lying, even if I'm not.
It's also not admissible in court so clearly its accuracy is questionable
Lie detectors are bullshit some cops tried to use it to see if these dudes were the ones that actually killed this dude(one of them did the other just watched) and the one that killed the dude ended up getting away while the one that watched got a lot of years in jail just goes to show it doesn’t tell if you are lying it shows if you are nervous the one that killed the dude is locked up now I think he got out I don’t know but the dude that killed tricked the whole system the man was a psychopath he murded someone because he was bored and he walked around for years without any suspicion and after the trip in korea he went back to America (the murder was American he was just visiting)
@@sirbuffalo they also look at body language and many other way so 95 procent of the time law enforcement does a good job the other 5 may be lying but life's not fair so yeah law enforcement people are people like you and me so they can make mistakes but at least it's just 5 procent
The thing that irritates me about the lie detector is that he has ticks. He could’ve moved his hand and it would’ve shown he was lying.
He got in a car crash, and instead of everyone saying, "Oh my god! Bobby, are you hurt?" Everyone said "Wow bruh. No drinking and driving, plus Shane paid a lot for that car!" That's unfair and what did he do to deserve those negativity?
Just a bunch of immature kids saying those things🙄
Madelyn Barhorst I know he shouldn’t but that shouldn’t be the main reason why people talked about it they should have cared about it they should have cared about his Heath and if this is affensive I’m so sorry
@@madisondubois5601 I have no sympathy for drink drivers, there is zero excuse its just selfishness. You can put peoples lives at risk.
This really isn't Shane's fault, people are just trash on the internet
@@Midasmistake well, shane is just literall trash too
bobby was ahead of his time period. if shane didn’t manipulate and ruin his career, he would’ve been probably one of the first large commentary channels.
like in the same space as cody ko. even w his music, feels like if he was able to continue being outspoken and funny he could’ve made some lowkey “satirical” songssss idk 😭 idk why i see that. BOBBYYY COME BACK WE’LL BE UR FOUNDATION FANBASE😭
i mean we are talking about the guy who basically made everyone realize how similar are the youtubers apologies, he's a very clever guy who would have been one of the top creators if shane didn't stick is fat unhyganic nose into bobbys business
@@casper3105 I think Bobby was the first youtuber to point out flaws in youtuber apology videos and damn did he open my eyes lol. He's clearly an intelligent kid and I wish he'd go back to his old content. Nothing against his new rap content coz if it's what makes himself happy he should go for it, but I feel like his old content was really the best of all that he made. I felt like I was being gaslighted by Shane's fans when they kept trying to tell me Bobby's content is bad and he's untalented and all that jazz lmao, I found them to be really good actually. Way better than all of Shane's "documentaries".
@@daphnedaphn3 bobby is intelligent but also anxiety ridden and had a very fragile sense of self. Shane saw that and capitalized on it, just like Jeff Satan did with Tati's desire to fit in (not that she's 100% innocent either). They are manipulators cut from the same cloth
@@yujibell true
Shane has always reminded me of the kids in high school who acted so sweet and kind to their friends and so the staff thought they were ideal students and angels, but were constantly backstabbing "their friends", manipulating them, and were assholes to everyone else.
Not really. What Shane did here was crappy, but to assume someone is a complete monster is terrible. What he did here was absolutely wrong, but to assume conspiracy over that? Isn’t that a bit rude, no offense meant. I feel really bad for Bobby. He didn’t deserve that. But you shouldn’t say that. That’s rude. Shane isn’t gonna get better by saying that Shane is a high school stereotype. Please don’t kill me after saying this.
Same. That’s all I can say.
@@ceph538 I didn't say he was, I said he reminded me. I mean that video alone says so much but it's pretty much all of Shane's stuff
Idk about shane but im that kid
Candyland I know.
Bobby has anxiety, he worries...how tf do ppl not understand this
Lie detector tests just show you’re anxious he wasn’t expecting that question
Lie detectors have no true science behind it and that’s why they amicable in most courts.
You can even see his body language show his anxiety and being caught off guard with the question. I'd gasp and hold my breath if that was thrown my way. Bobby had great potential and it sucks to see the decline of it. Hopefully he returns to show us what's next.
Only the USA uses them
lie detector tests (or polygraphs) use a thing called the galvanic skin response, which basically shows if a person sweats or not, which of course is a result of plenty of things (among mistruth, yes), but on the flip side, there are some people who can lie and stay completely static, meaning their polygraph incorrectly shows a truth when they actually lied. in conclusion, polygraphs suck and bobby deserved better :(
The lie detector has been disproven a long time ago, I don't know why they still use it
Wait why did people hate on him for “using Shane “ when Shane is the one who reached out to get him on his own video
Xander xns well he’s not using Shane, he’s just really fake , he only began being nicer to him when he and Shane talked. He criticized him in his video but couldn’t do that same face to face.
Julian Pena yea most people are like that. But Shane’s fans were specifically hating on Bobby because he was “using Shane.” Which is stupid because Shane brought him on. Also wouldn’t you be nice if the person bought you a car for no reason ?
Xander xns yeah I agree people from Shane’s fans are over reacting and are attacking him way too much , but Bobby didn’t know he was gonna get a car , he didn’t have to be nice when Shane first questioned him , he said in his videos that he hated Shane’s videos but didn’t say the same when Shane asked him and confronted him.
Julian Pena well if the videos and the series were preplanned and they’d already planned on doing the series (like primink said), then they’d probably already had a confrontation privately and gotten over most of that stuff. which would mean that there’d be no reason for bobby to be rude or confrontational in the video.
@@julian1538 He said that he hated the style of videos from that period from Shane, not that he hated Shane as a person
Poor guy, he seems like a sweet kid that got wound up in a bunch of bullshit and lost himself in the process. I hope he can develop his love for film and do what he loves, feel better.
He's doing ight
@@kaeruikaisen. please explain -_-
@@kaeruikaisen. I looked into this and I can't find a thing. You say it's everywhere tho. The only thing I found was that friend of his liked to talk to minors. Could you be getting that mixed up? If you have proof I would love to see it.
@@panicatthefallout7710 I'm guessing they won't explain, dude is quiet now.
Edit: They have- but not really. They "explained" on a different thread.
@@kaeruikaisen. Are you going to explain?
Didn’t Bobby Burns say he’s been watching Shane since 2014? He did and Shane said he had a feelings Bobby was actually a fan and Bobby was! So sad Shane did this to one of his fans...
Watching his videos doesn’t make someone a fan
@@starlaphantom2642 in this situation it does because Bobby was a fan of Shane he even said it
I feel really bad for Bobby,Shane just kind of lifted him up and dropped him.Also he clearly has anxiety and visual tics,so maybe don't do a lie detector test?Also lie detector tests detect lies in plants so PERIOD
maybe the goverment doent want you to know that planst lie 🤔 CONSPIRACY
Plants?
@@angelbabyy5606 my man had a stroke? i think?
@@angelbabyy5606 Yes they hooked one up to a plant and it showed false positives and negatives in the plant.
Don’t you have to talk for it to work tho
“Nasty boi” is reserved for Kermit
Yes
Cermet!
an cermet ❣️
KeRmIt ThE FrOg HeRe
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shane should NOT have gifted him the car. that was a very manipulative move. he intentionally led bobby into a river of debt. he very clearly has horrible anxiety during the lie detector test.
completely agreed! it was 10000% just a way to control him/guilt him :(
Bruh
@@LuisPerez-im2tx ??
bruhh where is the lie detecter test video i cant find it
@@tania-bx9sy it's on shane's channel. he might have taken it down though.
It’s the fact that Bobby was right the entire time for me, he wasn’t even a hater he gave very real criticism that has came back to bite Shane
it’s messed up for them to say he “wrecked shane’s car” it was a gift to him and i mean come on. if he was having money issues would he purposely wreck a car?
alexcia m it’s like they value an object more than the human being, it’s so upsetting. I can’t imagine how that made him feel. Like imagine getting into a car accident, and everyone is mad at you for it. It’s just crazy.
I’m honestly not a fan of him but that’s the dumbest thing I have heard. Who the hell would crash their car on purpose. I love Shane but his fans are really toxic and they seem to find anyway possible to hate on Bobby.
I guess it just get's to point where people forget that their favourite youtuber or celebrity is really just another human. People begin to see them as some sort of untouchable god and value them more than anything. At the end of the day, they didn't really understand the gravity of the situation, all they could see was them having to defend Shane from some "hater" that was trying to destroy him or something. They lose their mind and devote their everything to this one guy.
the people who said he wrecked Shane's car were probably immature kids who don't know better. IF Shane had just given him money things still probably would have ended badly for this kid. He is simply a jealous kid trying to use bullying as a way of getting attention. I wish Shane had just ignored his hate video. I know I'm ignoring him.
I had no idea this happened to him until now, I was even wondering where he went, because he seemed like a chill guy overall. The situation could've easily escalated to something very dangerous and what seems to matter most is the integrity of the car. I'm officially uninstalling my faith in humanity.
I actually feel so bad for Bobby because everything was new for him, he felt trapped by all his new fans and he just couldn't handle that situation, that's so sad
That's what fame does to you. Some people make the right choice and control themselves and live freely and not give a fuck what people want from them, others choose the wrong choice and let their followers control them. He made the wrong choice
they wernt even his fans
@@Eraeyan Plus the fact that he was so young when this shit went down didn't help...I couldn't imagine being 20 and having all this anonymous hate directed at me, and not come out of it a different person
I still think Shane had a crush on Bobby. Thus why Ryland was so against having him around only because he knew the threat he posed. Once Shane knew nothing was going to happen between the two he let the backlash just to happen.
Fuck Bobby.
Cancel culture literally needs to cancel itself, it’s so negative.
Jade Alyssa you’re right :(
Yeah! Just pull a Thanos. Use the Cancel culture to destroy the cancel culture
the irony in this comment....
But it's not really a thing tho. The people who "cancel" maybe sometimes stop watching or buying things from who they think they "cancel" but it never really affects the "canceled" they still making $$$ gaining subscribers. 😂
pemdas- it cancels itself out
We should have listened to Bobby 😔
Yup
No 😂😂
@@kevendelgado7403 yes
@@kevendelgado7403 yes….
that lie detector video made me stressed from the start bc he clearly has anxiety issues and ik as someone who also has anxiety issues that those tests dont work on us bc they track ur heart rate... so u'll fail like every question... but u know he's gonna be in hot water with fans when he failed. As soon as I heard that video concept i knew he was done for lol.
thats why they can't test anyone with certain medical issues and anyone that has mental illnesses
Also lie detector tests are bull. You can strap them to plants and get “lie” readings. Even the guy who invented them said they don’t really do anything and they’re not admissible in court.
They don’t work at all(as a whole test). The fact they use them at police stations and the FBI is criminal. Now, some company is trying to create a new biological “lie detector”. It’s crazy
They don't work like that.. you take a base reading. I'm not saying that lie detector tests work, but I am saying that they don't compare it to the average heart rate, they compare it to YOUR average heart rate.
Anaeliseianna having an anxiety disorder doesn’t mean u have a faster heart rate than most people tho.... you get heavy anxiety very easily and often for no reason, it’ll fluctuate and that exact thing is a noted cause of failing a lie detector test regardless of if ur lying.
Shane literally gave Logan Paul more respect than he gave Bobby Burns
Bobby had the power to bring him down, and Shane knew. He had a reputation to uphold.
Jake Paul...
That’s cause Logan & jake Paul are as big as Shane Dawson. When you have the same fame as someone, you tend to respect them more. But he thought he could walk all over Bobby because Bobby is underneath him in the RUclips world
Probably cause Logan boxes and could knock Shane out 🤣
Fantastic video! I hope Bobby finds his own way.
the twink has arrived, and the queen has spoken! best day ever!
I can't believe you also watch his videos!! This made my day
Two of my favorite creators. RTG I loved your videos on the Ukrainian orphan girl! 💜✨
Agreed
I trully hope he's ok now. I couldn't finish the Shane's videos. It was too much not worth to watch. Repeating the word "hater" on the videos multiple times was almost like brainwash to his young audience.
So for anyone coming back to this older video and wondering what bobby is up to now, nothing. Hes vanished from the public eye as far as i can tell. His Instagram is deactivated. His last post was two years ago. His last song was 4 years ago. His patreon is deactivated, and his twitter is private. Makes me sad to see the decline of his career thanks to shane.
He has an onlyfans still
ok but like he never “despised” him he just gave his channel an honest review
"Terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible" is great constructive criticism, I don't see how anyone could take that as "hate"
Maui Randall Yes, Ofc he’s being over dramatic there. But the rest of the video was pretty good.
But thats the thing, if one sees a juicy and really dramatic part, even if it doesnt make any sense or any impact on the video as a whole. They just gon eat that shit up, gobbling it, and thinking up themselves whatever the hell they want.
Finnish Crystaliu Yeah.
Fr 🙄😂
The inventor of a lie detector test even said they're not accurate 😂😂😂
Yeah, who the hell even takes it seriously? Any personal question might give you a false negative. There's a reason why it's not used as court evidence or anything serious. It's in the realm of crappy reality shows and vlogs.
You know its fucked when the inventor says it's not 100% accurate 😂😂😂
I was just about the comment that 😂
the guy who administered the test is also on EVERY reality show doing the same thing and i swear he just likes to stir shit up lmaooo
I honestly hope this is one of those times. 😂😂😂
"Fun" fact, I used to post my drawings on Deviantart, and at first nobody paid them much mind. However, I started posting fanart of Gorillaz in 2010, and that made my art skyrocket so much it took me by surprise. people started to recognize me by my Gorillaz fanart, and then by other types of fanart.
At first I was ok with that, but then I wanted to post my own art, my own characters and my own stories. Everything that was my original content was completely ignored and left aside for fanart.
People started asking for just fanart of what they liked, and I felt like a factory producing art for everyone but me. Five years ago I abandoned the artist name I had back then, and decided to start from scratch on the Internet. Right now nobody knows me, nobody remembers me, and I can draw whatever I want whenever I want. And I couldn't be happier.
Fame < Actually enjoying what you are doing.
You made the right choice.
I'm glad you made that choice for yourself. I follow a couple artists who got crazy popular for fanart and had trouble breaking away from that community later on. Would you mind plugging yourself so I can see your work?
@@highonquack6622 My name used to be Zilkenian. My gallery is still in Deviantart.
I had the same experience!! I got 5k followers in less than a few months bcs of fanart. But then my followers have 0 interest in my original art and telling me tht i should ONLY make fanart. I started new without fanart and have less followers, but i feel way way happier. (im on ig not DA tho so idk if tht relate 😂, @vyansya)
This is the way of all 'Work'..this is why some artist do not want to 'work' as an artist. This is it though..imagine a job as a commercial artist.its just production
Soooo Shane has a history of tearing down up and coming RUclipsrs. But he's never directly involved so as to have deniability.
Bobby deserved better.
The amount of stress in bobbys eyes over the time he dealt with things is truly saddening.
Jaymes Muir yeah he didn’t deserve this
@@a_man_duh3872 With Shane comes drama apparently. I just wish people were more productive with it in stead of destructive.
I noticed the same thing! Terrible ! Poor kid
Before the Shane videos he looked so innocent.
Bobby is an ass. He deserves everything bad that happened to him
I just have to say, lie detectors don't *actually* "detect" lies. It's record the heart and respiratory rate of the person hooked up to it. Meaning: it detects rushes in adrenaline. This can be helpful as (with most people) our heart rates increase quite a bit when we knowingly tell a lie. But I think that if someone asked me if I wanted to kill their son and I was already *hooked up to a lie detector,* my heart rate would skyrocket as well.
Luna...Shane's "lie detector" test was about as real as his Tanacon series. LOL. It was all fake to get a video out and Burns thought it would help him because The King of RUclips, Dawson, told him so.
@@Gicchinno fair point. I haven't really seen any of his videos.
Add that to being recorded and knowing that millions of people will judge your every move
Yeah. You would also be nervous about the machine saying your lying but your telling the truth
Yeah I would definitely fail it because I have severe anxiety and even when asked a question like my name I get nervous
Fun fact: Lie Detectors don't detect if you're lying, they detect if you're anxious.
Lmao I'd fail every question because I'd be anxious about being anxious and failing every question
Actually no, they test how much you believe in what you say not if you're anxious. First they ask you a bunch of simple questions to set a base line so even if your anxious you should be fine
@@sanjanapatwari910 they test your breathing and heart rate. If the situation changes, the base questions can easily been thrown out of the window. If your crush walks in and starts asking you questions, you are highly likely to start failing, because your heart rate and breathing frequency will increase because of the presence of that person. If they ask you an uncomfortable question, it can also show a false positive. There are a lot of factors that can throw the results off even assuming that the person isn't trying to fool the lie detector.
Scout Flake exactly, like no shit he’s gonna be anxious, he already has people telling him hes using shane
@@sanjanapatwari910 How can a machine detect whether or not you believe in what you say?
Ironically, though seemingly unintentionally, ended up being the best retaliation to silence a hater that Shane could've done.
It was absolutely intentional, it was textbook love bombing followed by discard.
He's cute enough to try and restart on Tiktok so fingers crossed for this poor kid
Jeez no, I hope he doesnt do that.
ALIcIA fAE tik tok is an okay platform he can make a career out of it tbh 🤷🏻♀️
lucky for you my friend, my on titkok vm.tiktok.com/pTCaUy/
@@Unknown-kf1uq tiktok is crap I'm sorry to say. But that's my unpopular opinion :\
ALIcIA fAE nah u ain’t wrong there’s only clout chasers now… tik tok 2018 was amazing doe
off topic but god i can’t stand listening to tana talk while she’s crying
Thought I was the only one 😂😂😂
Off topic but I can't stand listening to Tana talk
sebongie omfg me neither
Off topic but I hate Tana
I can’t stand Tana period
I actually feel really bad for Bobby. Like when Shane’s videos came out about Bobby I saw the flood of hate and accusations and harassment. It made me so sad that this dude was tossed into such a bad situation and eventually fell off the face of the Earth.
I heard he's back home and working on his music. I tried to get in touch with him but couldn't get a reply.
That’s so interesting. Well I’m glad he’s back doing something he enjoys. Hopefully working on his music will give him a new purpose.
In a way he did it to himself. Obviously no one should send death threats or hate.
I tried leaving supportive comments on his videos when it was at it's worst, but I don't think he ever went looking for that needle in the haystack.
It's not like it's possible to recruit the hate-squad to common sense either, we're talking about people who believe in a conspiracy theory about recycled pizza here.
It's really sad that a horde of kids that barely have the collective IQ of a bag of doritos have managed to drive him off the platform. I hope he's doing ok.
Ok..true. no one deserves hate. I never even threw hate towards him even tho I didn't support the series. But I'm pretty sure- to this day, believe that Bobby truly did not like Shane and lied (saying he was lying and actually loved Shane-)...like come on💀 plus Shane tried as much as he could but Bobby threw it all away. He broke up w his gf and she deadaas exposed him and his ig is just full of him smoking/doing drugs, drinking, and asking his followers to follow his SoundCloud lmaoo 😌 but idk..I don't know him personally so I'll try to stay neutral about the situation
I’m from the future and he wasn’t wrong
AngelicaM A nah, you from the past, like a day ago
Tiger Time c whst u did there
Is Bobby back?
I'm from the future
L
This poor guy. He had a horrible audience. Seems like he couldn’t please them, no matter how hard he tried to adapt his content. I hope he’s okay now. I hope he has a lot of support. Shane’s toxic fans ruined him.
ive been a subscriber of bobby and im just happy that he's back. tho he gets small amount of views, he looks happier with the videos he recently posted especially the camping and cooking one :)
Ming Tings right ! he the one made videos why he hates people joke or not
@Ming Tings but srsly, nah idk what to say, my instinct just pity him
Agreed
I am a fan of Shane but I would never do that to somebody
literally people assume instead of find facts these days
it is really messed up
@Ming Tings how did he do it to himself?
he did not plan on starting all this drama and stuff
literally though
shane dawson's channel in a nutshell
shane dawson : *breathes*
*dramatic music intensifies*
Literally the reason why I stopped watching his recent documentaries- even his sponsorships are dramatic 😂
STFU
verystream.com/stream/HLNCGEWVSQb/BOBBY_BURNS_REVENGE 👬👬👬👬
@@strudelh Agreed! I thought I was the only one
shane: *breathes*
all cats in a 500 mile radius: *incoherent screaming*
I'm literally in love with Primink's voice.
And I love giggle 💕
who the hell are the ppl who told they didn't like his giggle 🙄
@@mono-galantis ikr!
same girl, same
Saame
@@ruafleet It's so cute!
If y’all seen Bobby now in 2020, y’all need to get on his instagram cause he is just beautiful now
I know I’m 5 months late, but what’s his Instagram? I really want to follow this beautiful, mistreated boy
"No matter what he did, there was always a mob of people who were angry"
God damn, give the poor boy a break
I really wish people were easier on him
Evelyn Mendoza ok bitch your pfp is everything
I meant bitch in like a nice way. Because I’ll be like “ok but you snapped bitch” and sometimes people take that the wrong way😁
His name is bobby burns, they wanted to see him burn
@@fart227 thank u so much 🤗
@@JLydecka oH-
To me it just seems like a lot of people treated him unfairly. Like Shane was willing to give him a chance, but his audience wasn't? These are the same people who gave JAKE PAUL A CHANCE, like wtf? I just dont get it.
They all have way more "clout" than Bobby and is a different demographic to target so they get each others views from each other's fan.
Bobby is not charismatic. That is the main problem .
Tbh I never really gave Jake a chance, I watched the series and I could tell he was lying to Shane the whole time. I don’t know for Bobby. I didn’t really jump into any of it, I didn’t jump into hating on him or loving him I just went with it.
Cause its easier to watch a video in which the person you like is in (this case Shane) rather than watching someone who Shane supports and digest said persons content
Don't get me wrong like I love Shane but I will NEVER give jake Paul a chance
"This wouldn't be a Shane video if we didn't talk about Honey"
YESZSS
No cap
Shane used him as a pet project for his ego boost and to switch things up on his own channel because he needed a change on his own channel. when it didn't go as planned he dropped him with no hesitation so he would not get caught up in the backlash he himself caused.
So Shane made him turn his life upside down to go work for him, fires him after a month and says, hey it's not going to work but good luck with no job in a city you don't know... And Bobby's the bad guy? I love shane but sometimes he doesn't live in the real world and that sucks
fires?
Shane didnt make him do anything. Bobby had a choice to go to california he didnt have to go to California. And he wasnt fired. Bobby said he wasn't fired, he wanted to take a BREAK. But he never went back because of all the backlash. You take things that were dismissed in this video and say that it happened. When it clearly didnt.
CatandBonez Why do you hate him so much? If he gets hate or his fans call him out he addresses it in a good way.
@@tweeezersss3479 the thing is the opportunity of working with Shane (which I dont think had ever been a bad thing-) was a LARGE JUMP from where he was.
@CatandBonez you mean throughout, not "threw out".
Using the word "cucked" distracts and detracts from your argument, as does implying that there is some kind of LGBT+/feminist cooperate plot.
Corporations co-opt LGBT+ and feminist language and symbolism to sell shit, it's a cynical attempt to make money, there aren't any actual feminists or LGBT+ people behind most corporate marketing schemes. You know how during pride there are rainbows all over corporate instagrams but then when pride's over it's like it never happened? If they were actually part of some gay agenda, there'd be rainbows all year round (oh the horror)
You know the only gay agenda is to be treated like a human being, right? LGBT+ people aren't trying to take over the world or take away anyone else's rights, they just want the same rights as everyone else.
What I'm saying is, you almost made a good point, but you couched it in nonsense.
I’m not an avid Shane enthusiast or hater, but I think this whole this was largely his fault if not entirely. He is literally a RUclips demigod, he brought attention to this youtube novice, made him a member of his team, made it seem like he supported him, gave him a polygraph test (while not researching its validity in an OBVIOUS attempt to dramatize the video), was completely silent when his fandom mauled this guy.... so on and so forth, I don’t know weather or not Shane is a bad person (I don’t know him personally), but that doesn’t matter, he did a very bad thing that ended up really hurting somebody.
fantastic comment, I couldn’t agree more. what shane did was shitty. does that make him a shitty person? idk. but i think he needs to own up to his mistakes and try to help bobby.
I definitely think Shane had good intentions to try and upstart this kids youtube career more but couldn't support him in the long wrong. Good intentions but intentions don't fix problems. I really like the way you stated this. Super good analysis!
Realm of the misunderstood Jesus u should be a writer or something because this paragraph alone is getting a lot of praise, and I couldn’t agree more.
괜찮아 u good man? Bobby Burns just started uploading to RUclips again after taking a huge break. He’s back to his cheerful content again and everyone in the comments of his videos are fully supporting him. Trust, it may seem like you’re alone and don’t have worth but people do appreciate you. There’s so much to live for man. Even with the stuff Bobby went through, he’s staying happy and uploading videos again.
괜찮아 plz get help man. Trust it gets better 🙏🙏
bobby burns was the OG eboy... but nobody's ready for that conversation
Paul Zimmer was
Jade Bobby Burns walked so E-boys could run
That’s the rudest thing you can say to eboys jfc
Lol
RIGHT. bobby is the boy who doesn’t sleep and knows he’s the shit so it feeds his ego
your last sentence 'I wanna see you succeed' was truly heartwarming
Shane’s real hater that we all know of is onision, the only hater he should’ve publicly confronted. Cause honestly who cares if that didn’t work out for onision
Jessica he’s not afraid of criticism at all, especially with the stuff he be saying and doing and with the emails he was sending Shane when Shane was in the middle of controversy not too long ago. I think he’d do anything for publicity. I see what you’re saying tho
Onision is more than a hater, he's an abuser and plain sick. He should be just forgotten, not be given a platform of any kind.
Jessica trueeee, it’s funny that he does that tho, while making videos and saying things that he KNOWS will get backlash and would be controversial. 🤦🏽♀️
Alia Ris youre right! But I would’ve preferred for him to get the hate that Bobby got
@@annie372 you know, I should make my own video sharing website and let people post major shit videos about Onision on it and he wouldn't be able to to jack because he'd be banned from the website or making any copyright claims 😂😂😂
"I'm an addict so everyone else must be" pretty much sums up every video I've ever seen from Rewired Soul
Yep. You got it.
He’s one of the most toxic people on RUclips.
@@HunterWoodlawn
Well, on the upside, I found Primink, Shane, and a wonderful recovery/mental health community.
Make him a shirt that says this and send it to him.
He’s mad that some people can drink or smoke socially or recreationally because he can’t. Everyone’s an addict cuz he personally can’t handle his intoxicants. So annoying
“One group hates my giggle” *giggles* “I hate that group”
I’ve never related to anything more.
Ngl his giggle is so cute
Gtfo Mah Life, I absolutely adore it!
Here in December 2024 waiting on your Honey video 👀👀
Jesus, be careful person scrolling in the comments, it’s a war zone.
thank you for the warning.
cassie lagman no problem.
lol how come?
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I think that Shane’s intentions were good, but his fans are horrible.
Edit: Y’all I want to point out that there are also good fans, but they are less outspoken and visible than the toxic ones.
Pretty much. This also proved it when the whole cat controversy and then got offended from a fucking joke (dark humor). That happened years ago.
Daddy Dan Is Here! Like some take it sooo wrong and I legit don’t even know how they do this! Like I’ve watched Shane since 2009 and I am so ok with his old jokes even the “black face” ones. But this is 2019 where people legit get so triggered by old stuff but they probably have done worse and won’t say what they have done. They think they can judge everyone since it s the internet and no one knows them.
@@starri__ i agree. Also not everyone has to like the jokes. Its fine. The shit that gets me is this fucking stupid cancel culture, it's the most fucking toxic and hurtful thing ive seen in a very long time.
The Velociraptor Queen Way I’m a fan I think I’m good
Daddy Dan Is Here! Ugh cancel culture is pure stupidity like ok you say you like this person and all but the second something that could possibly not be true and is a complete lie to make them look bad happens you switch sides like.. who does that but the second the truth is brought back up most damage is done and it’s like too late. (Ex. Melanie Martinez Vs Timothy Heller bs) I was legit neutral since I didn’t know anything at all but you had people burning merch, throwing it away; like completely destroying it! For what oh yea because they wanna do the whole “guilty until proven innocent bs” but they were quick to switch ones the full truth came out.
He has tics and anxiety I feel so bad for him :(
revisiting old primink content to soothe my soul... and being reminded that shane dawson fans really lack critical thinking skills
he seemed like a genuinely nice guy before he met shane and moved
He got turned out in hollywood
That's what Hollywood does to people.
Literally look at people before and after moving out to Hollywood and LA.
They turn into degenerates, pretentious fucks, etc.
L.A. can really destroy good people💀
Bobby burns roommates with some chick and some other dude he’ll be alright
This was the plan
Shane was seriously trying to help this kid and all the toxic fans took it way too far. I do really feel bad for him
Moss Patch you’re so right!
Periodttt
No... Bobby destroyed himself
Jaden how did he do it to himself?
sure, its not like shane didn't call bobby his "HATER" in all parts of his video series, already painting him in a bad light from the start.
and dont get me started with his awful lie detector video, how did he even though it was a good idea to upload it is beyond me.
if he truly cared i dont think he'd even edit that video.
I remember watching this in real time & I can tell you 100% what it was:
*Shane's preteen, underage fans*
They were vicious & their comments were completely uncalled for. It was hard to watch.
I agree, Shane should've reeled them in.
EXACTLY!!!
Honestly. Like I'm a fan of Shane's series and video style for the most part but the feedback and harrassment of his audience is a bit much to handle.
verystream.com/stream/HLNCGEWVSQb/BOBBY_BURNS_REVENGE
the sad part is that this is a recurring thing that happens. shane's audience is so big that they often get out of control on his behalf and having so many people to be responsible of is overwhelming especially for someone like him. i just wish whenever situations like this happen shane would be able to have better control over his fans instead of letting it escalate like this
God his fanbase is awful. Its honestly sad since shane had innocent intentions.
I love that you mentioned the fallibility of polygraphs! I was sitting here like.. are you not supposed to react a little anxiously to someone asking if you want to kill their son? Like I feel like I'm suffocating walking past a cop and I know I haven't done anything wrong.
So. In the end.. looking at Bobby's fate.. Shane's content was actually terrible.
The conspiracy theories were a 💯 and I used to be an average fan of Shane. But now that he's getting cancelled by all these videos like this one and exposing the manipulative facade, I am beginning to head out of the fandom
@@summerghost6551 look at the date of this video. this was not posted to cancel him. the facts were all there, but people just didn't see
i'm starting to really dislike that lie detector administrator. He's on everything and perpetuates the myth that lie detector tests are completely infallible, which he either believes and therefore is not a good scientist whatsoever or he's lying which makes him morally reprehensible for carving out this 'lie detector' for the stars business and making money off tests that can ruin someone's life.
The Vlog Squad was talking about him on one of Jasons videos. They were discussing how it's kind of a known thing that the guy picks and chooses what is "true" and that he gave them all bad vibes.
@@lala_lakeypoo can you link the video please ?
@coudy WANE
I'll have to go dig when I get back home. The video is on Jasons channel and its Jeff Jason Carly Erin and maybe Jonah all standing in Davids driveway talking about it. It was after the video they did lie detector testing the whole vlog squad, but after Trisha was long gone. lol
I'll find it and post asap
@@lala_lakeypoo Thank you sm !
hes just doing his job
10 years of hard working? and he is just 22 years old? with this all hate? how someone can? my god i feel bad for him.
His video about Shane aged perfectly.
I can’t believe Shane, the so called “empath”, could just stand by and watch this kid’s life deteriorate
psycho-path is more accurate
He was too busy kissing j*s ass so he could get millions of dollars from a makeup cash grab
The narcissism is stronger than the empathy
Just saying, not hating on shane but if he called himself a empath that is an insult to us real empaths
again, not trying to hate lol plaese dont kill me
@Anna you all people calling Shane a sociopath, haven’t studied psychology or psychiatry or met someone who is a diagnosed one. So shush.
These so called Shane fans who did this are terrible, I’m personally a Shane fan and I would never say the things these Shane fans would say ( not all Shane fans are like this I know)
So true
exactly real fans don’t go and harass people about something they did wrong
i didn’t even know that people harassed him until this video..
Yeah same not all of us are as cruel and the others
NO....Shane actually started it. He flew this kid out to interrogate him., It traumatized him. Don't try to absolve the leader of the troupe from guilt....
*Coming 2020* Shane's new 8 part series: "The downfall and return of Bobby Burns"
Yeah, if Shane can help jeffree. Why not Bobby?
It's just so sad what happened to him.
i know this may be a joke but maybe
I think this is a GREAT idea.
this is genius
@@zcythegeist but Jeffree is also helping Shane at the same time.
2024, nobody remembers who Bobby is and everyone hates Shane Dawson. I guess youtube do be like that.
My husband calls you Pimp Cup because he can never remember your name.
It works 👍
But he can remember your last name?
@@swiftset Well, considering it was most likely his last name for his whole life, I'm sure that's a safe bet that he remembers it.
Marry him
Tell him it's Pimp Chalice 😅
What's up with Shane and destroying young boys life? James and Bobby don't deserve that.
Let's get this comment to the top pls
@@daphnedaphn3 sure
Army hereee
Shane is a misogynistic punk
They hate the youth!
You know Primink’s videos are good because they age like fine wine. Man does god tier research, drops an iconic video and dips for three months lmao legendary.
Nicely said
its been 11 months now...
@@ehhhhnuts where is he? we need discourse
@@folddealfeal2740 some people think its bc of a lawsuit hes got, or that hes maybe doing his own show thing. But most people think that Timmys got his revenge...
@@ehhhhnuts hes in a law suit, against who?
here in 2024 and honey is in deep doo doo lol
The whole series (I could be wrong) feels like a huge publicity stunt on Shane’s part. He wanted to solidify that he is ‘a kind person’ by being nice to his ‘hater.’ He picked a random video that got a lot of views and contacted Bobby. Inherently, people are selfish, and Shane seems quite manipulative to the trained eye. He used this opportunity to actively portray himself a certain way to the public by tarnishing Bobby in a more discrete way. He labelled Bobby a hater to his massive fan base, hooked him up to a lie detector machine when he clearly has anxiety, and made Bobby look bad. The fact Bobby made a ‘hate’ video and Shane gave him a car makes Shane look like the ‘hero’ and Bobby, the ‘villain.’ Shane knows how nasty the internet can be and set Bobby up for failure since he can’t take criticism and must be liked by everyone. He sat idly by while Bobby’s life crumbled, making money off of the series while Bobby struggled financially. Shane has a giant platform, whereas Bobby didn’t. He used that to his advantage, which causes me to make this conclusion. Bobby is not the hater. Shane is.
Damn that's one in genius manipulation. Congrats to Shane he played the snake in the grass part well😬
damn this was well spoken. we did him so wrong when we knew bobby had all the talent 😭😭
that's a lot of good effort for a comment
yassss so so so true!! awesome job!🙌
I didn’t even know ALL of that happened to him after that and it sucks. How could anyone be so cruel to another person for such a stupid reason?
They didnt mature yet obviously its a personal flaw birds cant fly with broken wings
Sarah Ranin lmao way to be an enabler 😂😂😂 dumbass, if the bird uses their broken wing to smack other peoples’ teeth out, it’s still the birds fault for being an asshole. The broken wing isn’t a get out of jail free card 😂 you’re either stupid as fuck or you’re an ignorant child. Educate yourself before making these false equivalencies lmaooo
@@theforeverfalling sheesh so negative! Tf crawled out of your asshole?😒😒😒
wraxius well Awww truth hurts doesn’t it? Or did I use too many words for you to comprehend?
Eva Taylor they must think I’m attacking their fave, without even bothering to stop for 2 seconds and think about it 😂 or the fact that I’m a fan of both these guys.moh well, that’s what I get for being the “older” person in a sea of mostly 11 year olds I guess.
he literally seemed anxious during the test. as the person testing the other he should know that he would fail because he’s anxious and that throws off the answers
Lie detective tests aren't the most reliable machines to use anyway. It's been proven by Adam Ruins Everything that Lie Detectors only became "popular" because of the Maury Show, which has also been proven to be fake, too. There's also a lot more reasoning as to why Lie Detectors aren't reliable but it's best to watch that episode on Adam Ruins Everything.
Edit: lol this kinda have been explained in the video. I didn't notice that lol
And thats why i moved to europe cuz we dont have any stupid lie detectors
Sharky Gaming you moved to Europe because of lie detector tests... dam
Moving can throw off the tests and he does have tourettes.
also moving to much can make the test fail... people with anxiety during a panic attack can literally fail their own name.
And Shane claims to be empathic...