As a yoga teacher (with Indian origins) living in Senegal who loves Sufi teachings and has learned so much from them, I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this video. The amount of work, dedication, and authenticity you put into each subject you bring to us is ASTOUNDING, and I cannot thank you enough. Sending you much love and well wishes for your continued success.
In Shattariya sufi order, you can find Amartakunda Yoga that have been converted into Islamic sufism way. May be the Shattariya of the Indian sub continent still use it. One of the main book in Shattariya is Jawahirul Khams,in Arabic. I live in South East Asia and the Shattariyah Sufi Order here doesn't use the Yoga, may be because the origin of the order from Hijjaz. Shattariyah was introduced to Hijjaz by Shaikh Sibghatullah, the student of Shaikh Wajihuddin Alawi of Bengal. The Shattariyah in South East Asia came with two waves, 1st by the students of Mulla Ibrahim al-Kurani and second by the Malay Patani teacher, Shaikh Daud al-Fatani who became one of the teachers in Masjidil Haram. Coming in two waves but all are from the same line of transmission or sanad.
Have been meditating for 43 yrs - day and night - and researching literature etc - ancient and modern You - dear Phillip - have performed a wonder - with your video. The span of yogic research is vast and now growing - as its influence spreads worldwide. One would need a whole series - for all the many questions - that may arise. Thank you - for all your work here - yet even beyond - this effort too. Fare thee well - on life's journey.
"Have been meditating for 43 yrs - day and night " .. name the very top thing that, had it not been for this exercise has, made you better (AND that could not have been devised using the method of science).. I ask because at 56 years of age myself, i have exercised every day (running and weights). Although you only have my word for it, i am several decades younger than my biological age (my resting heart rate is 50 bpm). A new colleague at work (Indian), 15 years younger than me claim yoga cures many illnesses (eg hypertension and leads to fitness ... he coulr not walk two flights of stairs without breathing heavily)... as for my mind and my inner peace ? Well it is no worse than yours (depends on family, social contact etc)...
@@tariq_sharif Thank you - you seem to have your priorities - organised . Feeling the life force - in me heart - as a specific pressure - since childhood. Research - gave no answer - that was acknowledged there. At 11 yrs - reading a book of relaxation - at the end - meditation. Heart bloomed - as an open flower -response. That night - started meditation (Zen 10 yrs + Raja yoga - 43) Conclusion - In the heart - is the Real Being. Will dissolve all the mineness - on the way to mergence - with Him, alone. Quest - interesting/ worthy. Base is Love. Fare thee well - in life's journey
All the life - one has sought the highest thought - then to integrate this within the heart. As one has relatively reduced time available and one's other duties - it can be quite a quest. Fortunately - it was with Yoga meditation teachers of India - that real steps and transformation are being made - almost magically. It is for others - to find their goal of human life - in their appraised/practised methods. May you be - really successful. Fare thee welll - on life's journey.
@@kylewilliams5454 spiritualism implies the belief in the supernatural; which would entail the existence of supernatural beings such as God(s) angels etc whatever you want to call them. The young man is correct in saying the comment is contradictory. The original commenter most likely meant agnostic which means to believes in the supernatural but rejects religion
Agnostic means you think there might be a god, but you don't know Atheist means you don't belive in god at all You can have spiritual beliefs not tied to any gods
I just HAD to watch this video after watching your video on Yoga and Islam - indeed, it was a very edifying Sunday morning for me, being deeply absorbed in spiritual study. Thanks!
@@NakedSageAstrology but still have ego barrier which creates illusion of separation, actually in Buddhism it's explained more detailed such as samuti level and paramattha level of realities. You can also learn about Yogacara in Buddhism, it's quite similar.
Great work as always Filip. I am always happy when something healthy and productive becomes trendy in the West. I have incorporated yoga and vigorous exercise into my practice for several years, I believe it’s a natural legal “high” that I can access without stimulants. Btw I incorporated a Whirling Dervish practice based on your video. Cheers.
Why "modern postural yoga"? Sounds contrived. Good explantion of Yoga in the first half of the video. But why steal thousands of years of work of Hindu rishis/yogis by stripping it of its inspiration and call it modern/secular? That ends up in ungratefulness and Cultural Appropriation (which the West has done too much of to Hinduism). One would be left doing stretching, not Yoga. Also, Hindus did not wish to learn from Islam because of Islam's concept of divisive otherism (Muslims vs Kaffirs) and Apostacy punishments, which is an antithesis of the Hindu worldview of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (united world family), let alone allowing it to influence its Yoga traditions. Everyone was & is free to learn Yoga/Pranayama/Dhyaana/Ayurveda/Karma from Hinduism to improve their daily lives, even while saying they identify as Muslims/Christians etc. Why? Because Hinduism never bothered to "convert people". But at least have the rather basic awareness to not culturally appropriate. Remember, Hindus don't go to any Islamic/Christian retreats to improve their daily lives, but millions of Muslims/Christians come to Hindu Yogic retreats to improve theirs.
Tantras sure sound more appealing than the prior concepts. I really really have come to dislike world-rejecting religions and is a breath of fresh air to see world-accepting ones.
I took RussaYog studies in 2004 from Jasprit Singh PhD (b. in New Delhi India in 1953) and his wife Teresa Singh MSW/MPA in Ann Arbor MI. They now reside in Santa Barbara CA. Learned to harness my inner strength & warm my heart w/rope-based yoga that promoted physical, mental and emotional wellbeing. Introduced to the 7 😇 Chakra energy centers of the body and have never forgotten to tune them over the decades. Very easy with color-coded chart on my wall. Root - red Sacral - orange Solar plexus - yellow Heart - green Throat - light blue/turquoise Third eye - dark blue/purple Crown - violet/white Poses ! Breathing ! Meditation ! OH MY ❗❗
Thank you for another good research. It is important to differ between religious doctrines and a religious experience, as in a shared spirit between Hinduism, Sufism and Ubuntu.
I do enjoy that you post videos about lesser thought of religious concepts and histories as I personally am somewhat against organised religion and enjoy the more academic and historic aspects.
Well, all I can say is, why are there yoga poses carved in Chola age temples including postures such as tree, cobra, bow, shoulderstand, warrior poses etc.? I would not take Mark Singleton as a source as he had been trying to prove yoga as un-Indian for a long while in blog articles. He was set out with his hypothesis first and did his best. But what he did not do was look at Tamil sources as the Thirumantaram etc. or the ancient martial arts such as Kalipayatru that used warrior poses similar to the ones used in Krishnamacharya's hatha yoga that David Life learned from. Nor did he look at old paintings and carvings in temples. Hatha yoga postures are designed for directing the flow of prana. India also had other physical culture practices too. Max Alding, who made body building popular at the turn of the century found his inspiration from the Indian muscle men and even wrote a book about them. Well we could even go back to the Mahabharata and Bheema if we are talking about those who have devoted their lives to physical excellence. I hope you read this. You have been doing great work but associating with the likes of Mark Singleton will ruin the reputation of this channel as real information gets discovered by those with honest curiosity about the origins of physical yoga.
Exactly.. Even as a northerner even I know that yoga is widely documented In many Tamil-kannada literatures written during the feudal era like the cholas or Sri vijayanagar
The definition of Yoga from the Katha Upanishad given at 4:40, of stilling the perceptions and mind, combined with the meaning of “bringing together”, sounds the same as the concept of Samadhi - a different Sanskrit word for a state of being or mind achieved in meditation in both Buddhist and Hindu practice. Samadhi also means gathering together. I wonder how practitioners - particularly Hindu - conceive of the distinction (I practice a form of Buddhism predicated on the early texts, which I think do not make reference to Yoga, so more of a question for the Hindu practice I think). Edit: the video does go on to talk about Samadhi later. But the question still stands regarding the use and definition of Yoga in the Katha Upanishad.
well, canon contains a lot of word "yoga". Do you recognise "ultimate release from bondage?" This word has different translations, but in pali it reads "yogakhema"... A pretty major topic in Early Buddhist Texts, it's not the only phrase with word "yoga" in it. Be well!
@@sylwesterkukuka3592 Oh, okay, I did not realise this. Thank you. I am just embarking on a project of reading the Canon directly, rather than through modern dharma talks and writings. I am planning on trying to get my head around the key Pali terminology as I go as well. I have a certain amount relating to key basic terms from Buddhist practice, but I’ve not come across anyone picking out the term Yoga as yet, so I will look out for it. You be well also, and thank you again!
I really enjoy all of your videos! Thank you so much for teaching in such a detailed way, which gives insights even into areas that I have studied heavily.
As a Sunni Muslim Indonesian, International Relations graduate, living in Bali. This channel continue to be the best content to listen while cleaning my room and ascending to higher level consciousness ❤️
Great video, very beautiful, especially the first half, I have been meditating in the original yoga tradition for 40 years and teach that and you summarised it perfectly. Thank you. Love your other videos as well. P.s you nicked our chakra chart but you are welcome.
Asked one of my meditation guides - why so many women are practicing meditation. 'The women come first' - His reply. (late 80's) Hearts - you see - as priority May men - also benefit - from meditation and yoga - in general. And to the same extent - and depth. There is so much to learn - of an inner nature and especially love and the heart. A new way of being - intimate and real - transformed humanity and even - realised. May it be so Fare thee well - on life's journey.
@@Historia-sc1pi Should it not be be schizo punctuation ? I agree - from Africa - schooled in English - now in Germany - have to get used - to the way ideas are expressed - Germans build mountainous sentences and English much shorter. Do not think that this play - will ever be understood - by meself. Fare thee well - on life's journey.
And then one writes - only about Raja yoga meditation research - personal and other - for the last 40 plus years. No wonder that - speed wobbles - abound. Fare .....
@@user-hy9nh4yk3pAfrican and know English better than most. Am a writer, too. I understand you well enough even while understanding before you mentioned who you are that you expressed information differently, but not sloppily. As long as communication is understood, that is what matters. :)
@@dumsaint In humans - words should originate - (in our system) - from the heart -and be presented - to the other hearts. Goodwill - nay love - should work therein. Doing this - we relay the Divine intention - that sharing love - should be constant and the real dynamic - for the change - to a world that be a pearl - glowing subtly in the dark - and that even realised souls come to - to refresh in and to further transform from - to this whole universe. As 'love is the Base' (Ram Chandra) - so should the thoughts and actions - be. This is the fine and gentle law of Existence May we all find right words - and thank you for your fine comment. Fare thee well - on life's journey
Bodily practice is called asana (just small part of yoga) which was/is done just to keep body in good state in order to seat for longer time comfortably and do meditation without bodily interference.
I have always wondered if you are familiar with Roberto Calasso and his special approach to religion and specially the Vedic texts. He has two major oeuvres on Indian traditional texts, Ka (which refers both to the question who?, but also as the name of Prajapati) and L'ardore (which is te Tapas itself), which for me have been the entry door to the rich and complex world of these texts, cultures and traditions. Congratulations once again on a fantastic video!
A timely exploration of the Yoga phenomena, a part of my life and so many of my friends. Clear and informative. No matter which door you enter by its the same room. Thanks again.
An excellent job! Can't imagine how much time and effort it took to gather and compile all this information. You also presented it so well. And now it's time to go and refresh yourself at the Govindas restaurant. My recommendation 🙂
Thank you Philip for such an elaborate explanation about the roots of Yoga. What being practiced and seen on social media is only a tiny fraction of what it really is. I am a teacher of Hatha from lineages that strictly follows Yoga Sutra. I admire your work and dedication. There is a movie about Guru Nanak. He was a master in both aspects religions islam and Hinduism. He used to meditate in the corners of mosques. Truly devoted to God, people were not able to identify him with any specific religion.
A favourite singular Zen story - that can be universalised - in Yoga meditation methods - too. Master moves to the mountains - with an advanced aspirant. Master - as both guide and inspiration. Soon they are travelling over increasingly difficult terrain - until they come - to the very peak. Rest ordered. After some time - the Master says: 'Now comes the real work'. He stands up - and proceeds to take - rising steps - in the air - above the mountain - to the aspirant' s astonishment. Started meditation early - and always felt that something vital and useful - had awakened and that one would always have this resource available - if one practiced and researched this -in an intense way. So - the real magic of the meditation method - is always awakened - in this way - by the capable human master. No other learning methods - like books etc - can even summon this - or even help one - fully realise - the human spiritual goal of life. It needs the linking - of hearts - with love - merging even this - into Divine love - itself. Fare thee well - on life's journey.
@@user-vh1gc1ct6z Yes dear person - have followed this process for about 53 yrs now- First 10 yrs - Zen - then went back to the source (India) - now for 43 yrs - practicing Raja yoga (dhyana) I set out at 11 yrs - to do this spiritual method - because of the certain impulse of the heart - and it has been the most interesting and worthy quest - for the very Source, itself - and the human has learnt for the better - too. Fare thee well - on life's journey.
It always brings out angry Hindu-Nationalist far right Indians calling it Western and Abrahamic bias. As if actually history and scientific research doesn't interest or matter to Indians as well.
Super interesting. At 18:47 when you make the distinction between jhana yoga and sankya, both are used in Advaita Vedanta. Practices such as jhana, bhakti, dhyana, and karma, can all be found in the upanshids. Interesting though Adi Sankara united all these into non duality using logic with the practise of meditation and knowledge of the absolute. A rope appears to be a snake on a dark trail. Similarly The body appears to project consciousness, but consciousness projects the body. The sky appears to be blue. Like wise, the mind and body appear within consciousness. Is water different from a wave? Is clay separate from the clay pot? Similarly, mind and body cannot be different from consciousness. That which appers to consciousness is nothing other than consciousness itself.
Yog(a) itself means integrate...the sanskrit word for total sum is yog(a)....yoga is also described in sutras means string and threats which means you mould it according to place and time and still it's basic principle remains constant...
A note on the supreme yoga. Found it so useful - to fix the Goal - at the Highest - constantly. 'I would advise that instead of pondering over how the universe came into existence, we should admire the Being that brought it into existence' (Ram Chandra) It would seem to vitally include - the methods of karma, jnana and bhakti yoga elements - therein. It is also - the reason for raja yoga - the training of the human will and the mastering of the mind. Do not know - how hatha yoga features - except for heath and wellness, I suppose. Fare thee well - on life's journey
The term 'yoga' comes from the stem 'yug' - to bind or to connect. (Aspirant to the Divine) While alive - and practicing Yoga - one will be helped - with issues of health - exercise - science of breathing - even sleeping (yoga nidra) - issues of applied thinking and practice of meditation - calmness - and even the development of intuition. There are normal human experiences - one works with - and also the advanced spiritual training available. Therefore - the applied version of yoga - 'skill in action'. Not only life skills - but the theory - as the soul leaves the body - moving through the chakras - is also a developed yoga science. The afterlife and the vibrations and process ? Fare thee well - on life's journey.
The origin of yoga is Instinctual Pandiculation. It is metabolic. When the body is still, calcium accumulates, and intracellular mitochondrial communication causes the body to move and stretch without thought. Once the biochemical environment is upregulated a permanent flow state is achieved. The body then heals through morphogenic resonance restoring the physical structure at the genetic baseline (morphogenesis resume). Morphostasis is achieved, providing “immortality” though cellular regeneration. Innate savant abilities come forth such as knowledge over nature, bacteria, the role of nutrition in evolution, along with use of language and tools. This is the biochemistry of all religion. It ties together all of your themes and research. It is the answer to the paradoxical riddle that haunts your dreams 🐛🦋🧬🧠 Keep up the excellent research. I couldn’t have figured it all out without you 👍🏼🙃
Quite interesting! Have you read U. G. Krishnamurti? He described the phenomenon of enlightenment and its associated experiences in purely physical and physiological terms, vehemently refusing to attribute any spiritual meaning to it.
@@Sundar... it’s on my reading list. I have only read his Wikipedia bio. I think he enjoyed some good cheese while in Switzerland 😉 The “loss of memory and relearning” is due to shutting down the frontal lobe via vascular modulation. This is how flow states work. I had to learn how to walk, talk, and do basic cognitive tasks all over again. It is a long process to rebuild the mind to operate via bottom-up processing, allowing the brain stem full control. Effectively you are sleepwalking, while consciously observing yourself in action. You give up all control, and live in flow. It is a radical alteration of how your biochemistry functions. It is all controlled via the diet. I have spent every day since that moment researching neurobiology and biochemistry to build a framework of understanding. I will compile and publish it when I have completed rebuilding my body, and mind. Rapid neurogenesis is an exhausting experience, this is why people retreat from society to silence and stillness. One becomes as an infant again, requiring silence, solitude, and a diet that replicates the nutritional construct of breast milk - the perfect meal for the mind and body 🧀🍖🧠
@@robertm005 I highly recommend *_The Biology of Enlightenment: Unpublished Conversations of U. G. Krishnamurti After He Came Into The Natural State_* . Please let me know when your book gets published.
@@NapalmMan69 Grew up in strict Muslim household. Went to religious school studied Quran plus Arabic language. Read books, Islamic sharia and everything came to the conclusion that Islam is designed to serve not God but few religious leaders. If I wanted to become an Imam Islam would have been a useful way of life. But Instead I wanted to become a nurse and become a God myself helping people when they needed the most without expecting anything from them just a simple salary from the government but millions of friends and long lasting friendships. We all have a God inside, there is no need for external Gods.
@@NapalmMan69 Somebody has to creat Allah Set up the rules( Sunna) Allah doesn’t rule or manage societies or communities. Somebody has to represent Allah in the society. Those who created the illusion of Allah also benefits from managing the society.
@@Shaftalooooo Allah and the Quran has always existed even before the creation of the Universe. How could you say that rules are man made even though the sunnah are divinely revealed to Muhammad peace be upon him.
Lmao Did he just said islam influenced Yoga? 😂😂😂 And he left the video with question that what is yoga? And to whom does it belongs to? 😂😂😂 This guy is trying hard not to give any credits to Hinduism. Yoga simply means "Union," and the different forms of yoga are pathways to unite with the Universal oneneness. It's not just about physical postures or acrobatic exercises. There are primarily four types of yoga: 1) Bhakti Yoga (Path of Devotion) - This is the yoga of love and devotion, where one surrenders to the divine through prayer, chanting, and worship. 2)Karma Yoga (Path of Service and Duty) - This path emphasizes selfless action, where one dedicates all actions to the divine without attachment to the results. 3)Jnana Yoga (Path of Knowledge) - This is the yoga of wisdom, focusing on the study of sacred texts and self-inquiry to attain spiritual enlightenment. 5) Raja Yoga (Path of Meditation) - Often referred to as the "royal path," this type of yoga involves meditation, discipline, and the practice of mental control to achieve a deep connection with the divine and the physical postures to allign the body. Each of these paths leads to the ultimate goal of union with the Universal Oneness, providing different approaches to spiritual growth depending on one's nature and inclinations.
@@bananidas8941Far right and Hndu nationalists are way too disillusioned to see their own shortcomings. Civilization didn't start in India. Humanity didn't start with Hinduism or Sanatan. There really isn't any reason to appreciate how we learn from each other. American First Nations people had nothing to do with Sanatan, but they've had the swastik symbol since before Europeans or South Asians came to the continent. Nobody is out to get you. People just grow out of dogma sometimes. Funny how Nationalists of Modi's India are never this passionate about ending caste system and discrimination.
Yoga as the teachings of movement and states, without religious aspects, is perhaps a more pure form of itself. The simplicity of it makes modern Yoga interesting.
This was fantastic. I dont know if you ever did an episode on the Bhagavad Gita, but if not, it would be great to hear. Also i appreciate your explanation of the Bhagavaf Gita in this episode.
Great breakdown, thank you. I think a lot of the way modern yoga is viewed as purely secular in the west has a lot to do with the work of many European orientalists in the 19th century, who were deeply enamoured with Asian religions, but sought to find ways to re-interpret them, without feeling in conflict with their strict christian heritage. Hence the modern western misunderstanding of Buddhism and Daoism as being 'philosophies,' rather than religions.
A lot of the actual modern postures and the way the different postures themselves are done come from 19th and early 20th centuries Western gymnastics and not Hindu traditions
@@itisoktobedifferent.6081 yoga is hindu It has derived from hinduism It is used in both right hand and left hand path i. e. Dakshinachara and vamachara since the beginning Om is a hindu word dedicated to hindu dieties Buddha used it because he was hindu and so on liberalism and internet didnt exist at that time
Trying to decoupling - secularization of Yoga ( which has both birth and growth in eastern religions and philosohies) as the foundation and core principles match.
Thank you for this fascinating video! It would be great to watch something like that on qi gong and its origin. As a muslim I decided that qi gong is more appropriate for me than yoga. Chinese practise looks more "moneteistic" from my point of view.
Have you ever visited India. I am an Indian,watch all your videos and admire the deep knowledge you have about Hinduism. If it is second hand,by reading,it's amazing. Do visit India and see how everyday life here is steeped in spirituality. They say India is a gyana bhumi and the west is bhoga bhumi.
@kasturiswami784 The West is also jñāna-bhūmi. The West loves knowledge, always has, and is the only civilisation today and for the last 400 years that is built on rational and critical thinking. The West is not just bhōga-bhūmi. Please know that Ancient India was also bhōga-bhūmi. That is what made Ancient India so great and wondrous. It was a vessel of so many planes of existence.
@@LetsTalkReligion if you come to Hyderabad in central India,I would like to meet you. I am a 78 year g.mother who is interested in spiritual knowledge. Have enjoyed your videos immensely.
What is Hinduism? +++++++++++++++ I have long pondered on what constitutes this so called religion that is sitting on the head of my Tamizh people and have come up with some conclusions .... The priest from the Zoroastrian religion came to india with their Avestan language and fire rituals and later created some slogans in old Sanskrit to form the Vedas which was never written down. These priest learnt the principles of the Samana tradition that originated in the southern part of the sub continent namely in the Tamizh tradition and started incorporating it into their already existent vaiteegam rituals and produced the Upanishads and became vegetarians. For a solid philosophical footing which they needed in a highly philosophical Tamizh infused land about the 8th century Adi Sankara came up with Advaita logic that distorted the original Buddhist thoughts and produced a dichotomical nonsense which did not last the test of time. Later they took up the Tantric Samana Tamizh tradition and put forth the bakti religiosity. This they took also from the Christian tradition and desperately created for the Islamic onslaught. Bakti was based on erotism and appealed to the masses. The high Samana tantric philosophical basis was ruined for the newly conjectured 'Hindu' religion of the wretched puranic tales. This is the history of the Priestly class(Brahmins) that still retain their priesthood in the agamic temples that held sway through the bakti movement from the 10th century onwards. The consecutive non-Tamizh rulers firmly rooted the new found 'Hindu' religion with its caste system( the four varnas) that the British gave the final seal to....
What is Hinduism? +++++++++++++++ I have long pondered on what constitutes this so called religion that is sitting on the head of my Tamizh people and have come up with some conclusions .... The priest from the Zoroastrian religion came to india with their Avestan language and fire rituals and later created some slogans in old Sanskrit to form the Vedas which was never written down. These priest learnt the principles of the Samana tradition that originated in the southern part of the sub continent namely in the Tamizh tradition and started incorporating it into their already existent vaiteegam rituals and produced the Upanishads and became vegetarians. For a solid philosophical footing which they needed in a highly philosophical Tamizh infused land about the 8th century Adi Sankara came up with Advaita logic that distorted the original Buddhist thoughts and produced a dichotomical nonsense which did not last the test of time. Later they took up the Tantric Samana Tamizh tradition and put forth the bakti religiosity. This they took also from the Christian tradition and desperately created for the Islamic onslaught. Bakti was based on erotism and appealed to the masses. The high Samana tantric philosophical basis was ruined for the newly conjectured 'Hindu' religion of the wretched puranic tales. This is the history of the Priestly class(Brahmins) that still retain their priesthood in the agamic temples that held sway through the bakti movement from the 10th century onwards. The consecutive non-Tamizh rulers firmly rooted the new found 'Hindu' religion with its caste system( the four varnas) that the British gave the final seal to....
I enjoyed your talk I advise put links to your music in the description and on your channel if you don’t have i couldn’t find any I only found it when you showed the words at the end of your video I will show some friends
Several of my Indian and American teachers work with the Yoga Sūtras of Patañjali (which focuses on a version of Dhyāna Yoga), with the Jñāna (Jñ conjunct pronounced like gy, gyahna), Bhakti, and Karma Yoga of the Bhagavad Gītā, with the philosophy of Advaita Vedānta, and with Haṭha Yoga as essential foundations for the esoteric Tantric Yoga of the Śrī Vidyā tradition. Patañjali wrote in a way that was explicitly non-sectarian for the time, with Īśvara being a flexible (albeit masculine) term for an omniscient and omnipotent being that Śaivas or Vaiṣṇavas (or later Śāktas) can each associate with their chosen deities. Dualism, Unity-in-Duality, and Non-Duality are all valid, polarized conceptualizations of a primordial Reality that simultaneously transcends and expresses itself through all polarities. My favorite yoga teachers have perennialist tendencies related to relatively recent saints like Rāmakṛṣṇa and Rāmaṇa Mahārṣi, whereas some of my more sectarian teachers (e.g. Trika Śaiva Tantra teachers who hate and philosophically misrepresent Buddhism and Vedānta in their arguments) have repeatedly demonstrated that their experiential insight is relatively superficial and that they tend to rely heavily on various Sanskrit texts that are biased in sectarian and caste-ist ways, as well as on bigoted and misleading stereotypes regarding historically rival lineages.
Trika (Kashmir Shaivism) is some of the finest developments of Tantra; Along with the Tibetan tradition (Bon/Buddhism) and the Northeastern tradition (modern day Assam/Bengal), the use of Mantras, deities, symbols (yantras) and rituals developed into sophisticated systems along with very important centers for practice. Since you mentioned sectarianism, you must understand that the use of Smriti knowledge (eg. Dharmashastras etc.) were products of their times, and nothing more. Every civilization back then had to have a worker/slave class. Experiential insight is important so long as it is reflected upon to help guide you once you are grounded in practice, and practically or experientially grasp the basics of the nature of reality around you. Through a Guru's guidance, you fully imbibe it, and act out like you understand it without any dissonance. In the Jnana Marga (or Gnana path related to specific traditions), this is commonly referred to as Nidhidhyaasana. Since you took Sri Ramakrishna's name, his experiential unity or Jivanmukti was unlocked by the guidance of Avadhutha Thothapuri, a Tantric sage of heterodoxical bent who didn't even articulate his experiential insight to Ramakrishna, let alone the world. Just imparted pure spiritual guidance. In India, multiple Siddhas walk the land (very many real ones although most of them are charlatans these days, quite sadly). They don't seek to teach or change the world or spread their teachings but guide people on their spiritual journeys. These statements may seem tangential but are very relevant to your critique of Trika in the sense that you are not getting from it what you are looking for. Please don't hesitate to be more specific. And a blessed Gurupoornima to you. Om Sri Gurubhyo Namaha.
Just say you like a hotchpotch. Your "sectarian" teachers are absolutely correct in adhering to the said texts which are crucial to the authentic practice.
Thank you, this was great..I practice Sahaja Yoga which is a Meditation focused practice, established in 1970 but based on the ancient knowledge of Yoga (and indeed other religious traditions). We very much have to emphasise the Meditation part as most people assume it will be exercises.
That was an awesome episode! Great topic selection, and it also felt like just about the right amount of going into detail vs. a high-level overview. Following what you mentioned in the video itself, PLEASE DO make a video about Yoga and Islam, and/or Yoga "tandem-ed" with other religious traditions Cheers!
There are no references to where it was created but it’s documented who created it and who the first “Yogi” was. Yoga was created by the god Shiva or he was as Hindu people believe it is the first practitioner. He invented it to gain access to spiritual plain and power to transform and transcend life and consciousness.
Mahā Yoga driven from Natha lineages considers any practice that brings us closer to the Self, Atman will be in path to practice and to reflect on. Physical practice will only impact the first Kosha the first shell of the self. To dive deeper we need work with prana to expand it and transform it.
Very interesting video, Filip. I have been researching this topic for a long time. Yoga, like all religious practices, has evolved over time. It started as a religious practice aimed at bringing one closer to realizing the nature of God and reality. As you correctly pointed out, the Yoga Sutras encourage one to find meaning in life and connect with God through physical acts, often accompanied by the chanting of Hindu gods' names. The nearest equivalent to yoga in Islam is Dhikr, performed by Sufis. In the West, yoga is usually associated with spirituality and secularism. For yoga to remain secular, one should avoid chanting Hindu gods' names; otherwise, it becomes a religious practice and worship. One can argue and question why the attitude of the western population toward Yogo, which has its roots in Hinduism, so tolerant while Sufism/Islam is associated with negativity.
Yoga is not about chanting of Gods names..it is beyond the physical postures which are the Asanas, these postures are just a small part of the huge yoga traditions..it is also beyond the pranayamic practices.The 'secular' yoga you are talking about is mainly Hatha -yoga, pranayama and dhyana yoga (meditation). YOGA is a philosophy of realising the Self...Hathayoga, dhyana yoga are merely the tools.. Hindusim and many pther Dharmic religions talk about the 'Aatman' or true Self. The chantings, rituals are just a small part of the tradition..so upto you to think of it as religious practice..if chanting is a religious practice so are the Yogasanas and the pranayama practices by the same logic as all three are mere small steps and milestones that lead to a bigger goal...that is 'realising the Self'...And also, why a taboo around the word 'religion' or chanting ? In Dharmic religions, be it Hindusim or Buddhism..chanting is a practice that is used to stabilize the mind..and practice of chanting of 'Ishta' deva's ' name is there. Ishta deva means your 'personal God' what name you chant is not important.. one can chant whoever you consider as your 'God' . Buddhism does not have a concept of God, so they chant Buddha's name.The focus should be on what is the purpose of chanting rather than what name is being used in the chanting and whether by chanting, it becomes a tabooed 'religious ' practice...that is infact immaterial Practice of yoga which is just centred around bodily and mental faculties is not what was focus of yoga. They are mere smaller milestones to realise the higher purpose and that is the Self.
Well I think that is an easy question to answer . Is there any generalized recommendations or references to violence in vedantic texts. Sufism such as the poetry of Rumi is well loved in the west . Islamic fundamentalism, which seems to be ubiquitous in the west , is replete in the west . Even at speaker's corner in London Muslims openly say that they want Sharia law in the west . They also openly say that apostates should be killed . The security services in the UK have prevented hundreds of intended terrorist attacks by Islamists , a few by right wing extremists , but none as far as I know by Hindus , Buddhists or Jain's . It's hardly surprising that islamic fundamentalism is feared in the west - not just by westerners but also by former Muslims . There are some wonderfully brave ex Muslims on RUclips who risk their lives talking about their experiences of islam . Ask the Yezedi people if they think Islam is a religion of peace ? ? ? I have great sympathy for some of the Sufis - particularly the ones Filip has spoken of on here , because I see many parallels with Advaita Vedanta which is my favourite philosophy. Judging by what filip has mentioned on here and how the Sufis were influenced by yoga , maybe they weren't Muslims after all as the fundamentalists say . My favourite Sufi was Mansur Al Halaj whose life and ending parallels Christ's in so many ways . 🙏🕉️
@@michaeldillon3113 You are forgetting that fundamentalism or extremism can exist in any religion and society. You mentioned Hinduism and Buddhism but you did not address the lynching of Muslims in India by the Hindu extremist groups and killing of Rohingya population in Burma by the Buddhist extremist group. Why do you think that is?
Sure just steal thousands of years of work of Hindu rishis/yogis by stripping it of its inspiration (Vedas & Ishwara) and call it secular. Cultural Appropriation at its worst (which the West has done too much of to Hinduism). One would be left doing stretching, not Yoga. Also, Hindus did not wish to learn from Islam because of Islam's divisive otherism (Muslims vs Kaffirs) and Apostacy punishments, which is an antithesis of the Hindu worldview of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (united world family), let alone allowing it to influence its Yoga traditions. Everyone was & is free to learn from Hinduism to improve their lives, even while saying they identify as Muslims/Christians etc. Why? Because Hinduism never bothered to "convert people". But at least have the rather basic awareness to not culturally appropriate. Remember, Hindus dont go to any Islamic/Christian retreats to improve their daily lives, but millions of Muslims/Christians come to Hindu Yogic retreats to improve theirs. Learning without gratefulness is never fruitful for long.
Good explantion of Yoga. But why steal thousands of years of work of Hindu rishis/yogis by stripping it of its inspiration and call it secular? That ends up in ungratefulness and Cultural Appropriation (which the West has already done too much of to Hinduism). One would be left doing stretching, not Yoga. Also, Hindus did not wish to learn from Islam because of Islam's concept of divisive otherism (Muslims vs Kaffirs) and Apostacy punishments, which is an antithesis of the Hindu worldview of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (united world family), let alone allowing it to influence its Yoga traditions. Everyone was & is free to learn Yoga/Pranayama/Dhyaana/Ayurveda/Karma from Hinduism to improve their daily lives, even while saying they identify as Muslims/Christians etc. Why? Because Hinduism never bothered to "convert people". But at least have the rather basic awareness to not culturally appropriate. Remember, Hindus don't go to any Islamic/Christian retreats to improve their daily lives, but millions of Muslims/Christians come to Hindu Yogic retreats to improve theirs.
Such a great video. I have a suggestion, could you please add references to the images shown in your videos, I think it would help to contextualize the image to the narration and make it easier for us to search further in some scripts, paitings, or artists shown.
Really well done! Whether people are comfortable with India or Hindu spirituality, the truth is that even basic asana practice cannot be separated from India, or spiritual and philosophical traditions that are complex and continue to develop. Honestly, I think it is a legacy of colonialism to try to separate Indian religious practice from asana practice. The West always wants to condescend to the East and dismiss its influence, even as we seek it, as though we can only admire Eastern culture if we also know how to put it down.
Exactly! 💯 Good explantion of Yoga in the first half of the video. But why steal thousands of years of work of Hindu rishis/yogis by stripping it of its inspiration (Vedas & Ishwara) and call it secular? That ends up in ungratefulness and Cultural Appropriation (which the West has done too much of to Hinduism). One would be left doing stretching, not Yoga. Also, Hindus did not wish to learn from Islam because of Islam's concept of divisive otherism (Muslims vs Kaffirs) and Apostacy punishments, which is an antithesis of the Hindu worldview of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (united world family), let alone allowing it to influence its Yoga traditions. Everyone was & is free to learn Yoga/Pranayama/Dhyaana/Ayurveda/Karma from Hinduism to improve their daily lives, even while saying they identify as Muslims/Christians etc. Why? Because Hinduism never bothered to "convert people". But at least have the rather basic awareness to not culturally appropriate. Remember, Hindus don't go to any Islamic/Christian retreats to improve their daily lives, but millions of Muslims/Christians come to Hindu Yogic retreats to improve theirs.
You did not do justice to the yoga sutras, you misrepresented eshwara pranidhana, in that you did not describe eashwara peoperly, eshwara is not God, it is beyond Your god, it is essentially the controller of the universe, the interacts with nature, manages nature, complements nature, the prakriti. Also you whitewashed 1000 violent years of Islamic invasion and oppression in india, right under the guidance and influence of sufis, cherry picking your dara shikohs. Please stay away from history, not your forte.
This guy has a bias towards islam, I think he is Sufi Islamist. He intentionally crafted this video to dis credit Hinduism. He haven't provided much quotes from Hindu philosophers, saints or scriptures, just stated bunch of western interpretations on yoga and Hinduism and made a video. In the last part he is telling that nobody has clear definition of yoga and doesn't know to whom yoga belongs to? 😂😂😂
No slight intended, but "Gralstank" immediately hit my "ah, my Viking metal cover/tribute band to Hoobastank" button. Also, yoga, in this context, is very similar conceptually to the definition of magick (and probably part of why yoga was integrated into many of the practices) he gave for Thelema- as stated in "Magick in theory and in practice": Magick Science and Art that provokes Change in conformity with the Will. And also, similar to his "mission statement" of the O.T.O: Our method is Science, our aim is Religion
Excellent video! Would it be possible for you to include bibliographies of sources you use or reference in video descriptions for those of us interested in exploring topics further? Many thanks! 👏👏👏
Love your work, great job overall. However, Paramahansa Yogananda did not advocate for the postural yoga as you are suggesting. His system barely resembles anything you would see at a yoga studio in 2024. His teaching were about inner work and self studyas well as sef-observance.
Wait! My favorite mystical musician made a song based on my favorite poet? *Pauses video and heads to Spotify* However, I personally think that "Gurras" best use of the Holy Grail theme is in "Sagan om Gral" (The Grail Saga), from "Drömvers". (Dream Verse.) That poem gives me the chills.
Corrections:
1. "Bahr al-Hayat" means "Ocean of LIFE" and not light.
As does " Dalai Lamar. " If we interpret "light " as " wisdom ".. Know Acception. Peace..
Very good correction.
Excellent video Filip…love the new song as well!!! Thank you 🙏
Can you link to your new song? 🙏
@@jeremyt4292 yes please!
As a yoga teacher (with Indian origins) living in Senegal who loves Sufi teachings and has learned so much from them, I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this video. The amount of work, dedication, and authenticity you put into each subject you bring to us is ASTOUNDING, and I cannot thank you enough. Sending you much love and well wishes for your continued success.
He didn't receive what you sent because it lacks a real medium for tranamission. Writing it means he can read your message, though.
❤ As a fellow Sufi and Yogi, I agree with each of your words. ❤ Such a blessing for us all to learn from Filip. ❤
@@tessathulien61 the spiritual delusion must be crazy with you
In Shattariya sufi order, you can find Amartakunda Yoga that have been converted into Islamic sufism way. May be the Shattariya of the Indian sub continent still use it. One of the main book in Shattariya is Jawahirul Khams,in Arabic. I live in South East Asia and the Shattariyah Sufi Order here doesn't use the Yoga, may be because the origin of the order from Hijjaz. Shattariyah was introduced to Hijjaz by Shaikh Sibghatullah, the student of Shaikh Wajihuddin Alawi of Bengal. The Shattariyah in South East Asia came with two waves, 1st by the students of Mulla Ibrahim al-Kurani and second by the Malay Patani teacher, Shaikh Daud al-Fatani who became one of the teachers in Masjidil Haram. Coming in two waves but all are from the same line of transmission or sanad.
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currently in a world of so much chaos i really admire your channel and the hard work you reflect into musical craft, peace
Have been meditating for 43 yrs - day and night - and researching literature etc - ancient and modern
You - dear Phillip - have performed a wonder - with your video.
The span of yogic research is vast and now growing - as its influence spreads worldwide.
One would need a whole series - for all the many questions - that may arise.
Thank you - for all your work here - yet even beyond - this effort too.
Fare thee well - on life's journey.
"Have been meditating for 43 yrs - day and night " .. name the very top thing that, had it not been for this exercise has, made you better (AND that could not have been devised using the method of science)..
I ask because at 56 years of age myself, i have exercised every day (running and weights). Although you only have my word for it, i am several decades younger than my biological age (my resting heart rate is 50 bpm). A new colleague at work (Indian), 15 years younger than me claim yoga cures many illnesses (eg hypertension and leads to fitness ... he coulr not walk two flights of stairs without breathing heavily)... as for my mind and my inner peace ? Well it is no worse than yours (depends on family, social contact etc)...
@@tariq_sharif Thank you - you seem to have your priorities - organised .
Feeling the life force - in me heart - as a specific pressure - since childhood. Research - gave no answer - that was acknowledged there. At 11 yrs - reading a book of relaxation - at the end - meditation.
Heart bloomed - as an open flower -response. That night - started meditation (Zen 10 yrs + Raja yoga - 43) Conclusion -
In the heart - is the Real Being.
Will dissolve all the mineness - on the way to mergence - with Him, alone.
Quest - interesting/ worthy. Base is Love.
Fare thee well - in life's journey
All the life - one has sought the highest thought - then to integrate this within the heart. As one has relatively reduced time available and one's other duties - it can be quite a quest.
Fortunately - it was with Yoga meditation teachers of India - that real steps and transformation are being made - almost magically.
It is for others - to find their goal of human life - in their appraised/practised methods. May you be - really successful.
Fare thee welll - on life's journey.
As deeply spritual indian atheist i feel you gave a wonderful synopsis of yoga for me....good luck in your journey.
Spritual ? Atheist ? Synonym dont match
@@SushantGope-f7d Theism means believing in a god, you don't need to be theistic to be spiritual.
@@kylewilliams5454 spiritualism implies the belief in the supernatural; which would entail the existence of supernatural beings such as God(s) angels etc whatever you want to call them. The young man is correct in saying the comment is contradictory. The original commenter most likely meant agnostic which means to believes in the supernatural but rejects religion
Agnostic means you think there might be a god, but you don't know
Atheist means you don't belive in god at all
You can have spiritual beliefs not tied to any gods
@@Atlashands26 What are those spiritual beliefs that are not ties to any gods? Genuine question.
Thank you so much for another video, the quality of this channel is unbelievable, a true gem.
I started following you years ago and I think this is one of the best videos of yours. Love you Philip❤
Thank you! ☺
@@LetsTalkReligion❤
.i also think thats one of the best clips😅
YOGA plays the same key role in mysticism that LOGIC plays in philosophy.
@@irfanmehmud63 would you mind elaborating on that point?
It is not mysticism. It is spiritualism.
This is wrong for many reasons... Logic shouldn't require practice. Ancient philosophers never used logic to acquire a higher state.
Ok yeah I suppose that's a decent analogy
Spice.
so happy you did this one!!!! I have always been interested in hearing your take on what Yoga has grown into these days vs its roots 🙏🕉️
Thank you! This was exactly the information I was looking for, precisely when I needed it.
I just HAD to watch this video after watching your video on Yoga and Islam - indeed, it was a very edifying Sunday morning for me, being deeply absorbed in spiritual study. Thanks!
Would like a standalone video on the Samkhy philosophy.
Swami Vivekananda translated Yoga as Self Realization in his book What Religion Is
yoga is derived from the root · yuj (युज्) "to attach, join, harness, yoke"
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Yes, and what are we uniting with? The Self. Beyond Waking, Dreaming & Deep Sleep. Turiya.
@@NakedSageAstrology uniting with divine.
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Rorri Maesu says useaMirroR
You already are the Divine. 🙏
@@NakedSageAstrology but still have ego barrier which creates illusion of separation, actually in Buddhism it's explained more detailed such as samuti level and paramattha level of realities. You can also learn about Yogacara in Buddhism, it's quite similar.
Another excellent video. Thanks for sharing. Well done.
My pleasure!
@@LetsTalkReligion the interaction between Muslims and Hindus was as early as Abbasid. Hint: the number zero
What a wonderful and satisfying post on yoga! Thanks!
Thank you for explaining human belief systems to me. It is a gift.
Great work as always Filip. I am always happy when something healthy and productive becomes trendy in the West. I have incorporated yoga and vigorous exercise into my practice for several years, I believe it’s a natural legal “high” that I can access without stimulants. Btw I incorporated a Whirling Dervish practice based on your video. Cheers.
Thank you! Yes, regardless of its background etc., modern postural yoga has clear and proven health benefits. So that's only a good thing!
Why "modern postural yoga"? Sounds contrived.
Good explantion of Yoga in the first half of the video. But why steal thousands of years of work of Hindu rishis/yogis by stripping it of its inspiration and call it modern/secular? That ends up in ungratefulness and Cultural Appropriation (which the West has done too much of to Hinduism). One would be left doing stretching, not Yoga.
Also, Hindus did not wish to learn from Islam because of Islam's concept of divisive otherism (Muslims vs Kaffirs) and Apostacy punishments, which is an antithesis of the Hindu worldview of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (united world family), let alone allowing it to influence its Yoga traditions.
Everyone was & is free to learn Yoga/Pranayama/Dhyaana/Ayurveda/Karma from Hinduism to improve their daily lives, even while saying they identify as Muslims/Christians etc. Why? Because Hinduism never bothered to "convert people". But at least have the rather basic awareness to not culturally appropriate.
Remember, Hindus don't go to any Islamic/Christian retreats to improve their daily lives, but millions of Muslims/Christians come to Hindu Yogic retreats to improve theirs.
You were the first person who actually taught me this in a way I can truly understand it, tysm!
Tantras sure sound more appealing than the prior concepts. I really really have come to dislike world-rejecting religions and is a breath of fresh air to see world-accepting ones.
I took RussaYog studies in 2004 from Jasprit Singh PhD (b. in New Delhi India in 1953) and his wife Teresa Singh MSW/MPA in Ann Arbor MI. They now reside in Santa Barbara CA.
Learned to harness my inner strength & warm my heart w/rope-based yoga that promoted physical, mental and emotional wellbeing.
Introduced to the 7 😇 Chakra energy centers of the body and have never forgotten to tune them over the decades. Very easy with color-coded chart on my wall.
Root - red
Sacral - orange
Solar plexus - yellow
Heart - green
Throat - light blue/turquoise
Third eye - dark blue/purple
Crown - violet/white
Poses !
Breathing !
Meditation !
OH MY ❗❗
That was a really great breakdown thank you.
Thank you for another good research. It is important to differ between religious doctrines and a religious experience, as in a shared spirit between Hinduism, Sufism and Ubuntu.
I do enjoy that you post videos about lesser thought of religious concepts and histories as I personally am somewhat against organised religion and enjoy the more academic and historic aspects.
Well, all I can say is, why are there yoga poses carved in Chola age temples including postures such as tree, cobra, bow, shoulderstand, warrior poses etc.? I would not take Mark Singleton as a source as he had been trying to prove yoga as un-Indian for a long while in blog articles. He was set out with his hypothesis first and did his best. But what he did not do was look at Tamil sources as the Thirumantaram etc. or the ancient martial arts such as Kalipayatru that used warrior poses similar to the ones used in Krishnamacharya's hatha yoga that David Life learned from. Nor did he look at old paintings and carvings in temples. Hatha yoga postures are designed for directing the flow of prana. India also had other physical culture practices too. Max Alding, who made body building popular at the turn of the century found his inspiration from the Indian muscle men and even wrote a book about them. Well we could even go back to the Mahabharata and Bheema if we are talking about those who have devoted their lives to physical excellence. I hope you read this. You have been doing great work but associating with the likes of Mark Singleton will ruin the reputation of this channel as real information gets discovered by those with honest curiosity about the origins of physical yoga.
Exactly.. Even as a northerner even I know that yoga is widely documented In many Tamil-kannada literatures written during the feudal era like the cholas or Sri vijayanagar
The definition of Yoga from the Katha Upanishad given at 4:40, of stilling the perceptions and mind, combined with the meaning of “bringing together”, sounds the same as the concept of Samadhi - a different Sanskrit word for a state of being or mind achieved in meditation in both Buddhist and Hindu practice. Samadhi also means gathering together. I wonder how practitioners - particularly Hindu - conceive of the distinction (I practice a form of Buddhism predicated on the early texts, which I think do not make reference to Yoga, so more of a question for the Hindu practice I think).
Edit: the video does go on to talk about Samadhi later. But the question still stands regarding the use and definition of Yoga in the Katha Upanishad.
well, canon contains a lot of word "yoga". Do you recognise "ultimate release from bondage?" This word has different translations, but in pali it reads "yogakhema"... A pretty major topic in Early Buddhist Texts, it's not the only phrase with word "yoga" in it. Be well!
@@sylwesterkukuka3592 Oh, okay, I did not realise this. Thank you. I am just embarking on a project of reading the Canon directly, rather than through modern dharma talks and writings. I am planning on trying to get my head around the key Pali terminology as I go as well. I have a certain amount relating to key basic terms from Buddhist practice, but I’ve not come across anyone picking out the term Yoga as yet, so I will look out for it. You be well also, and thank you again!
I really enjoy all of your videos! Thank you so much for teaching in such a detailed way, which gives insights even into areas that I have studied heavily.
Thank you so much. You are such a blessing to this world ❤
Hinduism is father of all religions Buddhism Christianity Jainism
What an amazing video! As a moghul empire aficionado, let me say the video was very clear and well thought out. Thank you!!
Mughal empire was the very thing which swore to destroy yoga
As a Sunni Muslim Indonesian, International Relations graduate, living in Bali. This channel continue to be the best content to listen while cleaning my room and ascending to higher level consciousness ❤️
Maybe you could think about doing a video about the connecten between presocratic philosophers and the hindu traditions. I would really like that
Were there any real historical connections? Or, you mean just doctrinal similarities?
@@Sundar... i think there is no firm evidence yet for a historical connection. But in there concepts and ideas there seem to be.
@@jipgroenhart5755 OK. Thanks for your reply.
Great video, very beautiful, especially the first half, I have been meditating in the original yoga tradition for 40 years and teach that and you summarised it perfectly. Thank you. Love your other videos as well. P.s you nicked our chakra chart but you are welcome.
Simply a Amazing video
So much of facts in such a short video - I've learnt so much
Thanks Sir
Asked one of my meditation guides - why so many women are practicing meditation.
'The women come first' - His reply. (late 80's) Hearts - you see - as priority
May men - also benefit - from meditation and yoga - in general. And to the same extent - and depth.
There is so much to learn - of an inner nature and especially love and the heart.
A new way of being - intimate and real - transformed humanity and even - realised.
May it be so Fare thee well - on life's journey.
Scitzopunctuation
@@Historia-sc1pi Should it not be be
schizo punctuation ? I agree - from Africa - schooled in English - now in Germany - have to get used - to the way ideas are expressed - Germans build mountainous sentences and English much shorter.
Do not think that this play - will ever be understood - by meself.
Fare thee well - on life's journey.
And then one writes - only about Raja yoga
meditation research - personal and other - for the last 40 plus years. No wonder that - speed wobbles - abound. Fare .....
@@user-hy9nh4yk3pAfrican and know English better than most. Am a writer, too. I understand you well enough even while understanding before you mentioned who you are that you expressed information differently, but not sloppily.
As long as communication is understood, that is what matters. :)
@@dumsaint In humans - words should originate - (in our system) - from the heart -and be presented - to the other hearts. Goodwill - nay love - should work therein.
Doing this - we relay the Divine intention - that sharing love - should be constant and the real dynamic - for the change - to a world that be a pearl - glowing subtly in the dark - and that even realised souls come to - to refresh in and to further transform from - to this whole universe. As 'love is the Base' (Ram Chandra) - so should the thoughts and actions - be.
This is the fine and gentle law of Existence
May we all find right words - and thank you for your fine comment.
Fare thee well - on life's journey
Yet another great video ! Cant wait for some more info about the interactions between sufis and yogis. They happen to be my favorite topics 🙏❤️
I just listened to Gralstänk and it’s beautiful. This yoga video is great too! Thank you very much for both 🙏🏼
Bodily practice is called asana (just small part of yoga) which was/is done just to keep body in good state in order to seat for longer time comfortably and do meditation without bodily interference.
I have always wondered if you are familiar with Roberto Calasso and his special approach to religion and specially the Vedic texts. He has two major oeuvres on Indian traditional texts, Ka (which refers both to the question who?, but also as the name of Prajapati) and L'ardore (which is te Tapas itself), which for me have been the entry door to the rich and complex world of these texts, cultures and traditions. Congratulations once again on a fantastic video!
A timely exploration of the Yoga phenomena, a part of my life and so many of my friends. Clear and informative. No matter which door you enter by its the same room. Thanks again.
I enjoyed this video, thank you.
An excellent job! Can't imagine how much time and effort it took to gather and compile all this information. You also presented it so well. And now it's time to go and refresh yourself at the Govindas restaurant. My recommendation 🙂
Thank you Philip for such an elaborate explanation about the roots of Yoga. What being practiced and seen on social media is only a tiny fraction of what it really is. I am a teacher of Hatha from lineages that strictly follows Yoga Sutra. I admire your work and dedication. There is a movie about Guru Nanak. He was a master in both aspects religions islam and Hinduism. He used to meditate in the corners of mosques. Truly devoted to God, people were not able to identify him with any specific religion.
Hotpotch teaching.
He was a hindu
Thank you, your videos are always great! 🙌
A favourite singular Zen story - that can be universalised - in Yoga meditation methods - too.
Master moves to the mountains - with an advanced aspirant. Master - as both guide and inspiration.
Soon they are travelling over increasingly difficult terrain - until they come - to the very peak. Rest ordered.
After some time - the Master says: 'Now comes the real work'.
He stands up - and proceeds to take - rising steps - in the air - above the mountain - to the aspirant' s astonishment.
Started meditation early - and always felt that something vital and useful - had awakened and that one would always have this resource available - if one practiced and researched this -in an intense way.
So - the real magic of the meditation method - is always awakened - in this way - by the capable human master.
No other learning methods - like books etc - can even summon this - or even help one - fully realise - the human spiritual goal of life.
It needs the linking - of hearts - with love - merging even this - into Divine love - itself.
Fare thee well - on life's journey.
Meditation is form of yoga
In india meditation was called dhyan from india it went on to become chan in china and from chan it became zen in japan
@@user-vh1gc1ct6z Yes dear person - have followed this process for about 53 yrs now- First 10 yrs - Zen - then went back to the source (India) - now for 43 yrs - practicing Raja yoga (dhyana) I set out at 11 yrs - to do this spiritual method - because of the certain impulse of the heart - and it has been the most interesting and worthy quest - for the very Source, itself - and the human has learnt for the better - too.
Fare thee well - on life's journey.
I love when you talk about Hindu philosophy and practice. Amazing wrok!
It always brings out angry Hindu-Nationalist far right Indians calling it Western and Abrahamic bias. As if actually history and scientific research doesn't interest or matter to Indians as well.
No one, literally no one,
Me looking at guitars in background
BTW Nice setup FIlip
Super interesting. At 18:47 when you make the distinction between jhana yoga and sankya, both are used in Advaita Vedanta. Practices such as jhana, bhakti, dhyana, and karma, can all be found in the upanshids. Interesting though Adi Sankara united all these into non duality using logic with the practise of meditation and knowledge of the absolute.
A rope appears to be a snake on a dark trail. Similarly The body appears to project consciousness, but consciousness projects the body.
The sky appears to be blue. Like wise, the mind and body appear within consciousness.
Is water different from a wave?
Is clay separate from the clay pot? Similarly, mind and body cannot be different from consciousness. That which appers to consciousness is nothing other than consciousness itself.
Thank you for an objective deep dive into this topic. It was refreshing and gave me a completely new understanding and appreciation of yoga!
Yog(a) itself means integrate...the sanskrit word for total sum is yog(a)....yoga is also described in sutras means string and threats which means you mould it according to place and time and still it's basic principle remains constant...
A note on the supreme yoga. Found it so useful - to fix the Goal - at the Highest - constantly.
'I would advise that instead of pondering over how the universe came into existence, we should admire the Being that brought it into existence' (Ram Chandra)
It would seem to vitally include - the methods of karma, jnana and bhakti yoga elements - therein.
It is also - the reason for raja yoga - the training of the human will and the mastering of the mind.
Do not know - how hatha yoga features - except for heath and wellness, I suppose.
Fare thee well - on life's journey
The term 'yoga' comes from the stem 'yug' - to bind or to connect. (Aspirant to the Divine)
While alive - and practicing Yoga - one will be helped - with issues of health - exercise - science of breathing - even sleeping (yoga nidra) - issues of applied thinking and practice of meditation - calmness - and even the development of intuition.
There are normal human experiences - one works with - and also the advanced spiritual
training available.
Therefore - the applied version of yoga - 'skill in action'.
Not only life skills - but the theory - as the soul leaves the body - moving through the chakras - is also a developed yoga science. The afterlife and the vibrations and process ?
Fare thee well - on life's journey.
EXCELLENT VIDEO! Would rename as "HOLISTIC TREATMENT OF HINDU PHILOSOPHY.". Such depth.... awesome!
The origin of yoga is Instinctual Pandiculation. It is metabolic. When the body is still, calcium accumulates, and intracellular mitochondrial communication causes the body to move and stretch without thought.
Once the biochemical environment is upregulated a permanent flow state is achieved. The body then heals through morphogenic resonance restoring the physical structure at the genetic baseline (morphogenesis resume). Morphostasis is achieved, providing “immortality” though cellular regeneration.
Innate savant abilities come forth such as knowledge over nature, bacteria, the role of nutrition in evolution, along with use of language and tools.
This is the biochemistry of all religion. It ties together all of your themes and research. It is the answer to the paradoxical riddle that haunts your dreams 🐛🦋🧬🧠
Keep up the excellent research. I couldn’t have figured it all out without you 👍🏼🙃
Quite interesting! Have you read U. G. Krishnamurti? He described the phenomenon of enlightenment and its associated experiences in purely physical and physiological terms, vehemently refusing to attribute any spiritual meaning to it.
@@Sundar... it’s on my reading list. I have only read his Wikipedia bio. I think he enjoyed some good cheese while in Switzerland 😉
The “loss of memory and relearning” is due to shutting down the frontal lobe via vascular modulation. This is how flow states work. I had to learn how to walk, talk, and do basic cognitive tasks all over again. It is a long process to rebuild the mind to operate via bottom-up processing, allowing the brain stem full control. Effectively you are sleepwalking, while consciously observing yourself in action. You give up all control, and live in flow. It is a radical alteration of how your biochemistry functions. It is all controlled via the diet.
I have spent every day since that moment researching neurobiology and biochemistry to build a framework of understanding. I will compile and publish it when I have completed rebuilding my body, and mind.
Rapid neurogenesis is an exhausting experience, this is why people retreat from society to silence and stillness. One becomes as an infant again, requiring silence, solitude, and a diet that replicates the nutritional construct of breast milk - the perfect meal for the mind and body 🧀🍖🧠
@@robertm005 I highly recommend *_The Biology of Enlightenment: Unpublished Conversations of U. G. Krishnamurti After He Came Into The Natural State_* .
Please let me know when your book gets published.
As an X muslim, I found peace with Yoga and meditations.
Why you left Islam?!
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Grew up in strict Muslim household. Went to religious school studied Quran plus Arabic language. Read books, Islamic sharia and everything came to the conclusion that Islam is designed to serve not God but few religious leaders.
If I wanted to become an Imam Islam would have been a useful way of life. But Instead I wanted to become a nurse and become a God myself helping people when they needed the most without expecting anything from them just a simple salary from the government but millions of friends and long lasting friendships.
We all have a God inside, there is no need for external Gods.
@@Shaftalooooo Islam literally means submission to Allah how does it serve imams and mufis whose job it is to serve Allah?
@@NapalmMan69
Somebody has to creat Allah
Set up the rules( Sunna)
Allah doesn’t rule or manage societies or communities. Somebody has to represent Allah in the society.
Those who created the illusion of Allah also benefits from managing the society.
@@Shaftalooooo Allah and the Quran has always existed even before the creation of the Universe. How could you say that rules are man made even though the sunnah are divinely revealed to Muhammad peace be upon him.
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Amazing video! Very good stuff 👍
Lmao Did he just said islam influenced Yoga? 😂😂😂 And he left the video with question that what is yoga? And to whom does it belongs to? 😂😂😂 This guy is trying hard not to give any credits to Hinduism.
Yoga simply means "Union," and the different forms of yoga are pathways to unite with the Universal oneneness. It's not just about physical postures or acrobatic exercises. There are primarily four types of yoga:
1) Bhakti Yoga (Path of Devotion) - This is the yoga of love and devotion, where one surrenders to the divine through prayer, chanting, and worship.
2)Karma Yoga (Path of Service and Duty) - This path emphasizes selfless action, where one dedicates all actions to the divine without attachment to the results.
3)Jnana Yoga (Path of Knowledge) - This is the yoga of wisdom, focusing on the study of sacred texts and self-inquiry to attain spiritual enlightenment.
5) Raja Yoga (Path of Meditation) - Often referred to as the "royal path," this type of yoga involves meditation, discipline, and the practice of mental control to achieve a deep connection with the divine and the physical postures to allign the body.
Each of these paths leads to the ultimate goal of union with the Universal Oneness, providing different approaches to spiritual growth depending on one's nature and inclinations.
Even in my very non-dualist tradition of Trika, the first 24 of 36 Tattvas in our system are the 24 in Samkhya lol
I want your phone number. I want to know about trika.
The dates mentioned in the video seem incorrect. I wonder if it is a deliberate effort to undermines the antiquity of Sanatana dharma.
@@bananidas8941Far right and Hndu nationalists are way too disillusioned to see their own shortcomings.
Civilization didn't start in India. Humanity didn't start with Hinduism or Sanatan. There really isn't any reason to appreciate how we learn from each other.
American First Nations people had nothing to do with Sanatan, but they've had the swastik symbol since before Europeans or South Asians came to the continent.
Nobody is out to get you. People just grow out of dogma sometimes. Funny how Nationalists of Modi's India are never this passionate about ending caste system and discrimination.
Yoga is not a phenomenon, the world is. 🙏
Always thankful for your lessons
Thank you for taking time with something so immanent & confused. I'd love you to look at Ajata Vada in an episode.
Hari Om 🕉
By the way... Excelent video, a real reference !
Yoga as the teachings of movement and states, without religious aspects, is perhaps a more pure form of itself. The simplicity of it makes modern Yoga interesting.
This was fantastic. I dont know if you ever did an episode on the Bhagavad Gita, but if not, it would be great to hear. Also i appreciate your explanation of the Bhagavaf Gita in this episode.
@LetsTalkReligion I would love to see an episode on Alevism!
Meher Baba’s was quoted as having said, “The only real yoga is ‘you go’”.
Great breakdown, thank you. I think a lot of the way modern yoga is viewed as purely secular in the west has a lot to do with the work of many European orientalists in the 19th century, who were deeply enamoured with Asian religions, but sought to find ways to re-interpret them, without feeling in conflict with their strict christian heritage. Hence the modern western misunderstanding of Buddhism and Daoism as being 'philosophies,' rather than religions.
A lot of the actual modern postures and the way the different postures themselves are done come from 19th and early 20th centuries Western gymnastics and not Hindu traditions
Just a suggestion for next dharmic topic “Ashtvakra geeta”
THANK U
P.S. Your track is just as soulful as I imagined it would be (before listening to it!). Well done you!
Of course it's Hinduism. You CANNOT seperate the two. Every yoga mudra is a way of worship.
buddhist yoga?
@@blackroses6315both are same, both Buddhist yoga and original yoga
@@blackroses6315 Yoga is Sanskrit word of connection with divine . There is a separate philosophy in Hinduism for yoga .
@@itisoktobedifferent.6081 yoga is hindu
It has derived from hinduism
It is used in both right hand and left hand path i. e. Dakshinachara and vamachara since the beginning
Om is a hindu word dedicated to hindu dieties
Buddha used it because he was hindu and so on liberalism and internet didnt exist at that time
@@blackroses6315 Yoga exist even before Buddhist born.
Trying to decoupling - secularization of Yoga ( which has both birth and growth in eastern religions and philosohies) as the foundation and core principles match.
Mashallah brother, I always enjoy your videos
Great video - thanks for sharing. Such a complex topic, love the way you summarized the history…
Not only Hinduism. Buddhism as well.
Hindu Buddhist brothers forever
Bhuddhism is a copy of Hinduism
Not in budhhism , check your fact
@@crazyman-mq3ru Your name is correct. I, on the other hand, am Buddhist.
@@revalesqlol epic bro
Word on the street is Zini has a new single out
I heard it's pretty good, too!
It would be very good if you picked up one of those sound makers and played an intro and outro to your lesson..yeppers...very good indeed
Thank you for this fascinating video! It would be great to watch something like that on qi gong and its origin. As a muslim I decided that qi gong is more appropriate for me than yoga. Chinese practise looks more "moneteistic" from my point of view.
Have you ever visited India. I am an Indian,watch all your videos and admire the deep knowledge you have about Hinduism. If it is second hand,by reading,it's amazing. Do visit India and see how everyday life here is steeped in spirituality. They say India is a gyana bhumi and the west is bhoga bhumi.
I haven't yet, actually! But I might go later this year, hopefully!
@kasturiswami784
The West is also jñāna-bhūmi. The West loves knowledge, always has, and is the only civilisation today and for the last 400 years that is built on rational and critical thinking. The West is not just bhōga-bhūmi. Please know that Ancient India was also bhōga-bhūmi. That is what made Ancient India so great and wondrous. It was a vessel of so many planes of existence.
@@LetsTalkReligion if you come to Hyderabad in central India,I would like to meet you. I am a 78 year g.mother who is interested in spiritual knowledge. Have enjoyed your videos immensely.
What is Hinduism?
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I have long pondered on what constitutes this so called religion that is sitting on the head of my Tamizh people and have come up with some conclusions ....
The priest from the Zoroastrian religion came to india with their Avestan language and fire rituals and later created some slogans in old Sanskrit to form the Vedas which was never written down.
These priest learnt the principles of the Samana tradition that originated in the southern part of the sub continent namely in the Tamizh tradition and started incorporating it into their already existent vaiteegam rituals and produced the Upanishads and became vegetarians.
For a solid philosophical footing which they needed in a highly philosophical Tamizh infused land about the 8th century Adi Sankara came up with Advaita logic that distorted the original Buddhist thoughts and produced a dichotomical nonsense which did not last the test of time.
Later they took up the Tantric Samana Tamizh tradition and put forth the bakti religiosity. This they took also from the Christian tradition and desperately created for the Islamic onslaught. Bakti was based on erotism and appealed to the masses. The high Samana tantric philosophical basis was ruined for the newly conjectured 'Hindu' religion of the wretched puranic tales.
This is the history of the Priestly class(Brahmins) that still retain their priesthood in the agamic temples that held sway through the bakti movement from the 10th century onwards. The consecutive non-Tamizh rulers firmly rooted the new found 'Hindu' religion with its caste system( the four varnas) that the British gave the final seal to....
What is Hinduism?
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I have long pondered on what constitutes this so called religion that is sitting on the head of my Tamizh people and have come up with some conclusions ....
The priest from the Zoroastrian religion came to india with their Avestan language and fire rituals and later created some slogans in old Sanskrit to form the Vedas which was never written down.
These priest learnt the principles of the Samana tradition that originated in the southern part of the sub continent namely in the Tamizh tradition and started incorporating it into their already existent vaiteegam rituals and produced the Upanishads and became vegetarians.
For a solid philosophical footing which they needed in a highly philosophical Tamizh infused land about the 8th century Adi Sankara came up with Advaita logic that distorted the original Buddhist thoughts and produced a dichotomical nonsense which did not last the test of time.
Later they took up the Tantric Samana Tamizh tradition and put forth the bakti religiosity. This they took also from the Christian tradition and desperately created for the Islamic onslaught. Bakti was based on erotism and appealed to the masses. The high Samana tantric philosophical basis was ruined for the newly conjectured 'Hindu' religion of the wretched puranic tales.
This is the history of the Priestly class(Brahmins) that still retain their priesthood in the agamic temples that held sway through the bakti movement from the 10th century onwards. The consecutive non-Tamizh rulers firmly rooted the new found 'Hindu' religion with its caste system( the four varnas) that the British gave the final seal to....
I enjoyed your talk I advise put links to your music in the description and on your channel if you don’t have i couldn’t find any I only found it when you showed the words at the end of your video I will show some friends
Several of my Indian and American teachers work with the Yoga Sūtras of Patañjali (which focuses on a version of Dhyāna Yoga), with the Jñāna (Jñ conjunct pronounced like gy, gyahna), Bhakti, and Karma Yoga of the Bhagavad Gītā, with the philosophy of Advaita Vedānta, and with Haṭha Yoga as essential foundations for the esoteric Tantric Yoga of the Śrī Vidyā tradition. Patañjali wrote in a way that was explicitly non-sectarian for the time, with Īśvara being a flexible (albeit masculine) term for an omniscient and omnipotent being that Śaivas or Vaiṣṇavas (or later Śāktas) can each associate with their chosen deities. Dualism, Unity-in-Duality, and Non-Duality are all valid, polarized conceptualizations of a primordial Reality that simultaneously transcends and expresses itself through all polarities.
My favorite yoga teachers have perennialist tendencies related to relatively recent saints like Rāmakṛṣṇa and Rāmaṇa Mahārṣi, whereas some of my more sectarian teachers (e.g. Trika Śaiva Tantra teachers who hate and philosophically misrepresent Buddhism and Vedānta in their arguments) have repeatedly demonstrated that their experiential insight is relatively superficial and that they tend to rely heavily on various Sanskrit texts that are biased in sectarian and caste-ist ways, as well as on bigoted and misleading stereotypes regarding historically rival lineages.
You've given me a lot to look into, thanks.
Trika (Kashmir Shaivism) is some of the finest developments of Tantra; Along with the Tibetan tradition (Bon/Buddhism) and the Northeastern tradition (modern day Assam/Bengal), the use of Mantras, deities, symbols (yantras) and rituals developed into sophisticated systems along with very important centers for practice.
Since you mentioned sectarianism, you must understand that the use of Smriti knowledge (eg. Dharmashastras etc.) were products of their times, and nothing more. Every civilization back then had to have a worker/slave class. Experiential insight is important so long as it is reflected upon to help guide you once you are grounded in practice, and practically or experientially grasp the basics of the nature of reality around you. Through a Guru's guidance, you fully imbibe it, and act out like you understand it without any dissonance. In the Jnana Marga (or Gnana path related to specific traditions), this is commonly referred to as Nidhidhyaasana.
Since you took Sri Ramakrishna's name, his experiential unity or Jivanmukti was unlocked by the guidance of Avadhutha Thothapuri, a Tantric sage of heterodoxical bent who didn't even articulate his experiential insight to Ramakrishna, let alone the world. Just imparted pure spiritual guidance. In India, multiple Siddhas walk the land (very many real ones although most of them are charlatans these days, quite sadly). They don't seek to teach or change the world or spread their teachings but guide people on their spiritual journeys.
These statements may seem tangential but are very relevant to your critique of Trika in the sense that you are not getting from it what you are looking for. Please don't hesitate to be more specific.
And a blessed Gurupoornima to you. Om Sri Gurubhyo Namaha.
Just say you like a hotchpotch. Your "sectarian" teachers are absolutely correct in adhering to the said texts which are crucial to the authentic practice.
Congrats, you are a Secular Librandu now. The virus which kills their own.
Thank you, this was great..I practice Sahaja Yoga which is a Meditation focused practice, established in 1970 but based on the ancient knowledge of Yoga (and indeed other religious traditions). We very much have to emphasise the Meditation part as most people assume it will be exercises.
Don't forget it's alao a cult
@@miguelatkinson what is a cult?
That was an awesome episode! Great topic selection, and it also felt like just about the right amount of going into detail vs. a high-level overview. Following what you mentioned in the video itself, PLEASE DO make a video about Yoga and Islam, and/or Yoga "tandem-ed" with other religious traditions
Cheers!
There are no references to where it was created but it’s documented who created it and who the first “Yogi” was. Yoga was created by the god Shiva or he was as Hindu people believe it is the first practitioner.
He invented it to gain access to spiritual plain and power to transform and transcend life and consciousness.
big brained and objective video, as always
Mahā Yoga driven from Natha lineages considers any practice that brings us closer to the Self, Atman will be in path to practice and to reflect on.
Physical practice will only impact the first Kosha the first shell of the self.
To dive deeper we need work with prana to expand it and transform it.
Very interesting video, Filip. I have been researching this topic for a long time. Yoga, like all religious practices, has evolved over time. It started as a religious practice aimed at bringing one closer to realizing the nature of God and reality. As you correctly pointed out, the Yoga Sutras encourage one to find meaning in life and connect with God through physical acts, often accompanied by the chanting of Hindu gods' names. The nearest equivalent to yoga in Islam is Dhikr, performed by Sufis. In the West, yoga is usually associated with spirituality and secularism. For yoga to remain secular, one should avoid chanting Hindu gods' names; otherwise, it becomes a religious practice and worship.
One can argue and question why the attitude of the western population toward Yogo, which has its roots in Hinduism, so tolerant while Sufism/Islam is associated with negativity.
Yoga is not about chanting of Gods names..it is beyond the physical postures which are the Asanas, these postures are just a small part of the huge yoga traditions..it is also beyond the pranayamic practices.The 'secular' yoga you are talking about is mainly Hatha -yoga, pranayama and dhyana yoga (meditation). YOGA is a philosophy of realising the Self...Hathayoga, dhyana yoga are merely the tools.. Hindusim and many pther Dharmic religions talk about the 'Aatman' or true Self. The chantings, rituals are just a small part of the tradition..so upto you to think of it as religious practice..if chanting is a religious practice so are the Yogasanas and the pranayama practices by the same logic as all three are mere small steps and milestones that lead to a bigger goal...that is 'realising the Self'...And also, why a taboo around the word 'religion' or chanting ? In Dharmic religions, be it Hindusim or Buddhism..chanting is a practice that is used to stabilize the mind..and practice of chanting of 'Ishta' deva's ' name is there. Ishta deva means your 'personal God' what name you chant is not important.. one can chant whoever you consider as your 'God' . Buddhism does not have a concept of God, so they chant Buddha's name.The focus should be on what is the purpose of chanting rather than what name is being used in the chanting and whether by chanting, it becomes a tabooed 'religious ' practice...that is infact immaterial
Practice of yoga which is just centred around bodily and mental faculties is not what was focus of yoga. They are mere smaller milestones to realise the higher purpose and that is the Self.
Well I think that is an easy question to answer . Is there any generalized recommendations or references to violence in vedantic texts.
Sufism such as the poetry of Rumi is well loved in the west .
Islamic fundamentalism, which seems to be ubiquitous in the west , is replete in the west . Even at speaker's corner in London Muslims openly say that they want Sharia law in the west . They also openly say that apostates should be killed .
The security services in the UK have prevented hundreds of intended terrorist attacks by Islamists , a few by right wing extremists , but none as far as I know by Hindus , Buddhists or Jain's .
It's hardly surprising that islamic fundamentalism is feared in the west - not just by westerners but also by former Muslims . There are some wonderfully brave ex Muslims on RUclips who risk their lives talking about their experiences of islam .
Ask the Yezedi people if they think Islam is a religion of peace ? ? ?
I have great sympathy for some of the Sufis - particularly the ones Filip has spoken of on here , because I see many parallels with Advaita Vedanta which is my favourite philosophy.
Judging by what filip has mentioned on here and how the Sufis were influenced by yoga , maybe they weren't Muslims after all as the fundamentalists say .
My favourite Sufi was Mansur Al Halaj whose life and ending parallels Christ's in so many ways . 🙏🕉️
@@michaeldillon3113 You are forgetting that fundamentalism or extremism can exist in any religion and society. You mentioned Hinduism and Buddhism but you did not address the lynching of Muslims in India by the Hindu extremist groups and killing of Rohingya population in Burma by the Buddhist extremist group. Why do you think that is?
Sure just steal thousands of years of work of Hindu rishis/yogis by stripping it of its inspiration (Vedas & Ishwara) and call it secular. Cultural Appropriation at its worst (which the West has done too much of to Hinduism). One would be left doing stretching, not Yoga.
Also, Hindus did not wish to learn from Islam because of Islam's divisive otherism (Muslims vs Kaffirs) and Apostacy punishments, which is an antithesis of the Hindu worldview of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (united world family), let alone allowing it to influence its Yoga traditions.
Everyone was & is free to learn from Hinduism to improve their lives, even while saying they identify as Muslims/Christians etc. Why? Because Hinduism never bothered to "convert people". But at least have the rather basic awareness to not culturally appropriate.
Remember, Hindus dont go to any Islamic/Christian retreats to improve their daily lives, but millions of Muslims/Christians come to Hindu Yogic retreats to improve theirs.
Learning without gratefulness is never fruitful for long.
Good explantion of Yoga. But why steal thousands of years of work of Hindu rishis/yogis by stripping it of its inspiration and call it secular? That ends up in ungratefulness and Cultural Appropriation (which the West has already done too much of to Hinduism). One would be left doing stretching, not Yoga.
Also, Hindus did not wish to learn from Islam because of Islam's concept of divisive otherism (Muslims vs Kaffirs) and Apostacy punishments, which is an antithesis of the Hindu worldview of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (united world family), let alone allowing it to influence its Yoga traditions.
Everyone was & is free to learn Yoga/Pranayama/Dhyaana/Ayurveda/Karma from Hinduism to improve their daily lives, even while saying they identify as Muslims/Christians etc. Why? Because Hinduism never bothered to "convert people". But at least have the rather basic awareness to not culturally appropriate.
Remember, Hindus don't go to any Islamic/Christian retreats to improve their daily lives, but millions of Muslims/Christians come to Hindu Yogic retreats to improve theirs.
I love your work so much! Thank you 🙏 like the university tutor i never had ❤️
Such a great video.
I have a suggestion, could you please add references to the images shown in your videos, I think it would help to contextualize the image to the narration and make it easier for us to search further in some scripts, paitings, or artists shown.
Really well done! Whether people are comfortable with India or Hindu spirituality, the truth is that even basic asana practice cannot be separated from India, or spiritual and philosophical traditions that are complex and continue to develop. Honestly, I think it is a legacy of colonialism to try to separate Indian religious practice from asana practice. The West always wants to condescend to the East and dismiss its influence, even as we seek it, as though we can only admire Eastern culture if we also know how to put it down.
Exactly! 💯
Good explantion of Yoga in the first half of the video. But why steal thousands of years of work of Hindu rishis/yogis by stripping it of its inspiration (Vedas & Ishwara) and call it secular? That ends up in ungratefulness and Cultural Appropriation (which the West has done too much of to Hinduism). One would be left doing stretching, not Yoga.
Also, Hindus did not wish to learn from Islam because of Islam's concept of divisive otherism (Muslims vs Kaffirs) and Apostacy punishments, which is an antithesis of the Hindu worldview of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (united world family), let alone allowing it to influence its Yoga traditions.
Everyone was & is free to learn Yoga/Pranayama/Dhyaana/Ayurveda/Karma from Hinduism to improve their daily lives, even while saying they identify as Muslims/Christians etc. Why? Because Hinduism never bothered to "convert people". But at least have the rather basic awareness to not culturally appropriate.
Remember, Hindus don't go to any Islamic/Christian retreats to improve their daily lives, but millions of Muslims/Christians come to Hindu Yogic retreats to improve theirs.
Hey. Absolutely love your content. Can you make a video on achintya bheda abheda of chaitanya mahaprabhu?
another amazing video, Jai Sri Rama!
Great summary, thank you 🙏
You did not do justice to the yoga sutras, you misrepresented eshwara pranidhana, in that you did not describe eashwara peoperly, eshwara is not God, it is beyond Your god, it is essentially the controller of the universe, the interacts with nature, manages nature, complements nature, the prakriti.
Also you whitewashed 1000 violent years of Islamic invasion and oppression in india, right under the guidance and influence of sufis, cherry picking your dara shikohs. Please stay away from history, not your forte.
This guy has a bias towards islam, I think he is Sufi Islamist. He intentionally crafted this video to dis credit Hinduism. He haven't provided much quotes from Hindu philosophers, saints or scriptures, just stated bunch of western interpretations on yoga and Hinduism and made a video. In the last part he is telling that nobody has clear definition of yoga and doesn't know to whom yoga belongs to? 😂😂😂
No slight intended, but "Gralstank" immediately hit my "ah, my Viking metal cover/tribute band to Hoobastank" button.
Also, yoga, in this context, is very similar conceptually to the definition of magick (and probably part of why yoga was integrated into many of the practices) he gave for Thelema- as stated in "Magick in theory and in practice": Magick Science and Art that provokes Change in conformity with the Will.
And also, similar to his "mission statement" of the O.T.O: Our method is Science, our aim is Religion
Excellent video! Would it be possible for you to include bibliographies of sources you use or reference in video descriptions for those of us interested in exploring topics further? Many thanks! 👏👏👏
Love your work, great job overall. However, Paramahansa Yogananda did not advocate for the postural yoga as you are suggesting. His system barely resembles anything you would see at a yoga studio in 2024. His teaching were about inner work and self studyas well as sef-observance.
Mate, you're the only persons videos that I listen to the end. They are very good.
Thank you!
Wait! My favorite mystical musician made a song based on my favorite poet?
*Pauses video and heads to Spotify*
However, I personally think that "Gurras" best use of the Holy Grail theme is in "Sagan om Gral" (The Grail Saga), from "Drömvers". (Dream Verse.) That poem gives me the chills.