Conversations With History - Michael Scheuer
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- U.S. Foreign Policy and the Terrorist Threat
Michael Scheuer, former Chief of the CIA bin Laden unit
Conversations host Harry Kreisler welcomes Michael Scheuer, a 20 year veteran of the CIA, who in the 1990's headed the search for Osama Bin Laden and the rendition program to imprison jihadists. Scheuer discusses the career of Osama bin Laden, the origins of the rendition program, and the failure of the US foreign policy elite to understand the challenges posed by jihadist terrorism.
Recorded March 12, 2008
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I strive to be as hardworking, humble and polite as Mr. Scheuer.
Among all the comments, yours is one that I enjoy
darkroommonster you shall go far, it won't be easy but you'll go far.
Because he says “sir”?
All just tactics really to try and cover up the fact that he's an extremist unfortunately
According to official figures, nearly 30,000 American soldiers were killed and wounded in Iraq, nearly 22,000 American soldiers were killed and wounded in Afghanistan, 30,000 committed suicide in the last 20 years, more than 600 NATO soldiers were killed, and 8,000 were killed who were working in American security companies. And spending more than five trillion dollars, and now the US national debt reaches 30 trillion dollars, and the American economy since 2008 has many problems. There is no victory in Iraq and Afghanistan, frankly.
Hard to believe this was 9 years ago and government stupidity and ignorance is still exactly the same in 2017
Your over generalization betrays your ignorance.
Denise G- Hill and in 2019!
28 may 2019 now Iran and rolling
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October 2nd 2019, and still we are hearing about Iran.
We are done like dinner 2024 Michael Scheure
As an Afghan living in the US for 20 years, I have to say it's an honor to know that an American such as Michael Scheuer exists.
It would be an honor to meet him someday and thank him.
Very few Americans ( White Men, non jew ) understand the issue. If you are Afghani or Pakistani, you have a friend. The jews haves subverted the American people for a lifetime. Karma is deserved.
He´d bomb your home, ignorant muslim
What are you gonna thank him for? Destroying your country and genociding your people?
His assessment was correct than and nothing was done about it at the time, now we are helping Israel kill women and children in Gaza, demoralizing to me personally. It seems to me that Biden was selected by a rigged election, as Donald Trump decried fowl. AIPAC has proved to be Antisemitic to Americans and our laws by placing dual citizenship pro Israel candidates in positions of power.
+1..... Thank you Mr. Michael Scheuer for your service to our country and expertise..!!
Wow, two very intelligent people having a very interesting and serious discussion, without interrupting each other mid-sentence.
Absolutely amazing!!! This guys knows his stuff. 20 years in the CIA Bin Laden Unit. Can't get any more knowledge about our enemies than this guy has
His last name is Scheuer and educated in a Jesuit school 😊
His assessment was correct than and nothing was done about it at the time, now we are helping Israel kill women and children in Gaza, demoralizing to me personally. It seems to me that Biden was selected by a rigged election, as Donald Trump decried fowl. AIPAC has proved to be Antisemitic to Americans and our laws by placing dual citizenship pro Israel candidates in positions of power.
First, I totally agree with Michael Scheuer on his opinions in this interview. Second, I really appreciate the candid and inquisitive nature of the interviewer.
History lesson. Almost 11 years ago.
Americans still have learned nothing.
You mean Americas have not learned anything.
I don't understand some of the comments ignorant people make!!!! He was a CIA agent for 20years and he since then became a professor and you bastards still criticize this man. You fools don't even know 5 per cent of this mans knowledge nor have the experience!!! How can you criticize someone about subjects that has much more information and knowledge than you?
President have to look at whole picture. He only looking from his little world. He correct about Religion church and state needs to be separate Its in constitution.
John Sinclair Your statement makes no sense, If the Jews were controlling the election process Romney would be president. Obama has been the least Israel friendly president we have had since the State of Israel was created. Also, Obama is not even eligible for re-election, so I really have no idea who you are even talking about.
It's cool man
True that!
Scheuer's a shill for Islam. He's a traitor, just like Nidal Malik Hasan is a traitor. He's in bed with ISIS, ISIL, Hamas, Hezbolah, CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood, and whatever brand of Islamic fascism there is out there in the wasteland. Scheuer's an enemy of America, an enemy of Israel, and an enemy of civilization.
Not only the US, but the whole West needs more brave and wise people like Mr. Scheuer.
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from 38:00 to 41:00 I confirm what Michael is saying.
I am from Pakistan & I dont hate America or Americans but actually Admire the people. we are against the American policies that have only brought grief to the other nations & didnt help America in anyway either
ok but realize one thing .....you don't need to apologize to the west sir
Irfan you are a stupid fool to believe Scheuer. Islam has brought grief to you , not America!
@@TesterBoy lol... You mean it was the Islam who started World War 1? World War 2? or the Hitler was Muslim? Wake up .... Israel's lobby within America has invaded many muslim countries...Let me know which is the country who invaded most number of countries mostly Muslim majority states???? That's Reality Check if you can answer.... When you bomb people whether in Japan or Afghanistan what you expect in return? minimum thing is hate....
“admire...”! Why!? This part of your comment is an interesting expose. I agree with the rest of your post.
@@leisureclub_Kudo! Nice job there. I hope the jerk read your response and wake up to reality and to the truth.
I think Professor Scheuer brings an objective comprehensive point of view to the table. He's credentials are impeccable, and he has the courage to face adversity.
anyone who believes any CIA guy 100% is a fool. My sense is the most of them lie with a project in mind.
How naive of me! I take his informative replies to be candid and sincere.
2008? The production looks like it was in the 80s
😂😂Yes.
But the content is still interesting.
prietty much anybody who ever understood war has said similar things... history is defined by conflict, and this guy has studied history, he knows what a people have to do to win a war
Very informative and clever person. He is 110%Wright.
i wish americans to listen to that man !!!
I love this interview. Great interviewer and great interviewee. This is how it should be done. Surprised this was at Berkeley.
Wars ends and somehow the defense budget never goes down.
Lol , Exactly. Even going up .
Its called military industrial complex. Previous leaders realised wars create wealth for them! They train and send our adult children to war, (not their children) that is the great cost. They go to war on a rumours of war. Cost is vreat
Brave guy !!!!
Loads of very interesting information. Worth the time to watch it fully.
I like this dude. He's common sense
Agreed and need more of common sense which isn't common in our present unfortunately. 😢😢😢😢😊
We need people like this running our country to repair the good name of America
2019, still completely relevant. He is a very intelligent and thoughtful individual
Sadly he's drank the coolade is now a joke figure
@@timothyprentice4706 yep. Joined the QAnon & antivaxxer brigade!
Victor Davis Hanson is another one. An incredibly smart man who is now completely paranoid about "elites" and the "deep state"
Mr. Scheuer is really a super nice guy who is absolutely brilliant and who speaks the 100% absolute truth.
This guy is brilliant
Well spoken. You've convinced me with your outstanding examples that this man far exceeds your own worth.
23:00 - 24:05 BRILLIANT observation
That intro was awe-inspiring!
DR Michael you are one the most honest and geniun person on this planet and You Love your country.
Very understanding line of work
Is he the same guy who headed Alec Station which sat on intelligence on Al Qaida which resulted in 9/11 attack for more than a year before the attack even took place?
Indeed, this is the bastard.
Lets pray that there are others this true in the CIA! Seems impossible. This man is a hero.
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2024, the CIA, completely Zionist controlled as the media who worked so hard to keep us informed, bless the chosen people of God in Zionist Israel !!!
One thing Mike didn’t bring up which is essential in feeding “terrorism” is the lobbyist that put their shareholders interest first. One example is the Military industrial complex that seeks to perpetuate these anti terrorism wars. In other words, get rid of lobbyists from government and you will see a lot less false flag terrorism operations.
As an aside, the intro music is really good.
The term "as far as I could throw them" comes to mind.
So under the watchful and wise supervision of Prof.Michael Scheuer international terrorism flourished. Well done sir.
Yup, he ran Alec station. He did absolutely nothing to keep 3k people from dying. Their bloods will ALWAYS be on his hands.
You got to love his answer on 9/11( we never found who did 911)
but attacked seven countries🤔
We do know, it was the US government
This individual is brilliant, more research is needed(for me)....
Great interview! It would help for the interviewer to learn how to pronounce mujahideen.
Does this guy do public speaking or a visiting professor tenure? I would like to attend his lecture after I read his book....
Why is the theme music from 1981?
fascinating.........
you can sense honesty in this mans face.
For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill ~ Sun Tzu
Why do the UC videos' soundtracks sound like really bad MIDI files?
Jonas Savimbi was from Angola and not Namibia...Don't you love to correct the experts?
20:52 Jonas Savimbi was in Angola, not Namibia.
The following is a list of countries invaded by the US forces (naval, military and ultimately air forces) since its inception in order of major incidents. This catalogue derives heavily form the work of US academic Dr Zoltan Grossman's article “From Wounded Knee to Libya : a century of U.S. military interventions” [1], Gideon Polya's book ‘Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950” (that includes a brief history of all countries since Neolithic times) [2] and William Blum's book “ Rogue State ” [3]. This list includes instances of violent deployment of US forces within America (e.g. against demonstrators, miners etc), and includes small-scale bombing and military intervention operations, military evacuations of Americans and specific instances of explicit threats of use of nuclear weapons. The list does not include the 1801-1805 US Marine Barbary War operations against Barbary pirates based in Morocco , Algeria , Tunisia and Libya , and also ignores massive US subversion of virtually all countries in the world. @t
(1) American Indian nations (1776 onwards, American Indian Genocide; 1803, Louisiana Purchase; 1844, Indians banned from east of the Mississippi; 1861 onwards, California genocide; 1890, Lakota Indians massacre), (2) Mexico (1836-1846; 1913; 1914-1918; 1923), (3) Nicaragua (1856-1857; 1894; 1896; 1898; 1899; 1907; 1910; 1912-1933; 1981-1990), (4) American forces deployed against Americans (1861-1865, Civil War; 1892; 1894; 1898; 1899-1901; 1901; 1914; 1915; 1920-1921; 1932; 1943; 1967; 1968; 1970; 1973; 1992; 2001), (5), Argentina (1890), (6), Chile (1891; 1973), (7) Haiti (1891; 1914-1934; 1994; 2004-2005), (8) Hawaii (1893-), (9) China (1895-1895; 1898-1900; 1911-1941; 1922-1927; 1927-1934; 1948-1949; 1951-1953; 1958), (10) Korea (1894-1896; 1904-1905; 1951-1953), (11) Panama (1895; 1901-1914; 1908; 1912; 1918-1920; 1925; 1958; 1964; 1989-), (12) Philippines (1898-1910; 1948-1954; 1989; 2002-), (13) Cuba (1898-1902; 1906-1909; 1912; 1917-1933; 1961; 1962), (14) Puerto Rico (1898-; 1950; ); (15) Guam (1898-), (16) Samoa (1899-), (17) Honduras (1903; 1907; 1911; 1912; 1919; 1924-1925; 1983-1989), (18) Dominican Republic (1903-1904; 1914; 1916-1924; 1965-1966), (19) Germany (1917-1918; 1941-1945; 1948; 1961), (20) Russia (1918-1922), (21) Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999), (22) Guatemala (1920; 1954; 1966-1967), (23) Turkey (1922), (24) El Salvador (1932; 1981-1992), (25) Italy (1941-1945); (26) Morocco (1941-1945), (27) France (1941-1945), (28) Algeria (1941-1945), (29) Tunisia (1941-1945), (30) Libya (1941-1945; 1981; 1986; 1989; 2011), (31) Egypt (1941-1945; 1956; 1967; 1973; 2013), (32) India (1941-1945), (33) Burma (1941-1945), (34) Micronesia (1941-1945), (35) Papua New Guinea (1941-1945), (36) Vanuatu (1941-1945), (37) Austria (1941-1945), (38) Hungary (1941-1945), (39) Japan (1941-1945), (40) Iran (1946; 1953; 1980; 1984; 1987-1988; ), (41) Uruguay (1947), (42) Greece (1947-1949), (43) Vietnam (1954; 1960-1975), (44) Lebanon (1958; 1982-1984), (45) Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011), (46) Laos (1962-), (47) Indonesia (1965), (48) Cambodia (1969-1975; 1975), (49) Oman (1970), (50) Laos (1971-1973), (51) Angola (1976-1992), (52) Grenada (1983-1984), (53) Bolivia (1986; ), (54) Virgin Islands (1989), (55) Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003), (56) Saudi Arabia (1990-1991), (57) Kuwait (1991), (58) Somalia (1992-1994; 2006), (59) Bosnia (1993-), (60) Zaire (Congo) (1996-1997), (61) Albania (1997), (62) Sudan (1998), (63) Afghanistan (1998; 2001-), (64) Yemen (2000; 2002-), (65) Macedonia (2001), (66) Colombia (2002-), (67) Pakistan (2005-), (68) Syria (2008; 2011-), (69) Uganda (2011), (70) Mali (2013), (71) Niger (2013).
Clearly ... WE are a nation of murderous thieving self righteous hypocrites!
what's up with that opening song?!!!!!!
At least Dr.Sheuer told us the truth!
Hey akamal113... I am an American, and I love ALL people of ALL the HUMAN RACE !!! Your right about our government & policies...if only they would do what they're supposed to do , things might be alot better for everyone! They really don't care about regular citizens in America, much less anywhere else in the world...EVERYONE should open their eyes and see whats happening to our home...Its because of how we are ruled!!
Epic intro music
Yes
Very good points:
37:27
39:15
49:00
what about the stingers?
Evidently an intelligent and forthright individual, and yes, I heard what he said about leaving the agency. What I would like to see though is more of change-agents whilst within, and not as soon as they’ve earned sufficient pension fund.
"Is Ares right? Will Warriors forever define the future" Gabrielle
This guy went so crazy. It’s hard to believe he was ever in charge of anything
It's a shame as he's clearly highly intelligent and there is a lot of merit to what he says. However he's started to go off on one now over social issues such as gay marriage and abortion which have nothing to do with foreign policy
He failed to bring any information on ubl and al quails to light. He sat on his ass and did nothing, he must've cheered when he saw the towers fall. Why wasn't he charged with treason.
Nice try Clown In America
Must respect for the truth 👏
Is Michael Scheuer still alive ?
yes, he is.
2020 ...
I wonder how he feels about the vote on H.R. 5606?
Scheuer really lays it out @ 39:00 min mark
great interview. interesting point made at minute 24 which runs counter to the "soft power" concept of joseph nye. the evidence seems to support scheuer over nye.
STOP THE MUSIC..........
Pretty good talk. It irked me somewhat when he said the Cold War was relatively peaceful since I have a lot of South East Asian and Latin American friends. But I can understand why he'd think so. Can't wait to read his book on Bin Laden.
Was a fan of Dr Scheuer until I heard him say the official report on 9-11 was correct.
Don Rendal did really said that, guess he didn’t watch tv solidly for the next few weeks. We had two tv’s going almost constantly especially in the first 2 days. Funny thing is there are some things have never seen again like the tv reporter who was first on the scene after the supposed plane hit the Pentagon and said he saw no signs of plane parts and the hole it supposedly made was small for the size of the plane that was supposed to have hit. And I just loved that the cameras for that side were not working. Plus then the Pentagon then sent out agents to collect film from area buildings’ security cameras. Couldn’t show a plane but one showed a streak of light.
He had no choice like others who wish to keep their jobs and reputation they corroborated the official narrative
@@carol89589 There's always a choice. He chose to cave. Like cops who "choose" to stand down instead of stand UP and fulfill their oath. Peace
@@carol89589 sorry he made a choice... job vs honor & truth. He chose job. That's against the oath he took...so he violated his oath. Not saying it's easy to stand for truth but if one swears then one must follow thru. I did. I know. I lost a job over standing for less. We need ppl who stand UP not DOWN. No excuses
@@donrondel8240 Thanks for standing for truth.
Wow. His insights r awesome. State and church are not separate but they are interchangeable, they r the same side of the coin. Our basic laws are born from religious doctrine and then reformed by social reform.
Not entirely, a lot of things we get from the Roman Republic, such as senators, representatives, things like that.
I like Mr Scheuer point of view on Israel.
You can hear what he was saying about these subjects in 2005, regarding Afghanistan, Iraq, Muslim World, Neocons ilusions with Western Democracies and Nation Building. Almost everything he said 20 years ago is valid today. And he is dismissed by the Washington Establishment because he says what he thinks about America support for Israel.
The Empire State building was hit by a much smaller plane travelling at a much lower speed, so it's not really a fair comparison, but it is the only one. Building No.7, like many buildings around the twin towers, was engulfed in flames and collapsed because the internal gas heating exploded, thus causing the building to implode.
It will be interesting to see what types of changes Leon Panetta brings to the CIA. When I was in college the father of a girl I was dating was friends with Panetta and I was fortunate to meet and get to know him. Leon Panetta is a fine man and when he was a Congressman out of Monterey California he served his district quite well. A very personable and reasonable guy. He showed his ethics when he left the Clinton cabinet right before the whole Monica Lewinski affair broke.
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Are we safer now in 2019?😞
@gupsphoo and what will that achieve?
America's got talent !!!!
Here I am distancing from Mr Scheuer that, apparently Libya's sending young people to the other Arab country is Gaddafy;s fault, but I wonder if US President also liable when the young Jews go to Israel to fight against the Palestinians?
the young people .. hat er bekämpft. Das war das Volk, das sorosh Hilfsorganisationen mit seiner Erlaubnis aufwiegeln durften. Rassismus wurde geschürt.
G. lieferte ja nach nineeleven seine Zentrifugen aus, dachte, es gäbe im Kampf gegen den Terrorismus eine gemeinsame Front. Das zeigt, er glaubte, es würde noch irgendwie nach Regeln gespielt.
Plötzlich waren diese Kämpfer das Volk, das mit der Flugverbotszone zu schützen war.
Als das Land komplett im Chaos war, servierte man der systematisch verblödeten Öffentlichkeit die Ermordung G.s durch kamerageignete, vorzeigbare Patsies, die wahrscheinlich cnn noch aussuchte, als Sieg.
Auch hier wurde wieder eine Konvention, die in Jahrtausenden Kriegführung entstanden ist, von absoluten Banausen über Bord geworfen. Im Irrenhaus gilt garnichts mehr.
Und das lässt Scheuers Campagne so naiv erscheinen.
Wahrscheinlich ist er geschockt, was er mit vorbereiten half.
Auch Deutschland spielt mit in der Liga derer, die NGOs einsetzen, um Demokratie und Werte in der Welt zu verbreiten. Im Arabischen Frühling waren wir in Ägypten mit der Adenauerstiftung vornean.
Hier werden Steuergelder verbraten ohne Ende, nur um in den Ländern Spannungspotential auszunutzen und aufzubauschen. Die Regimechangemaschine....
Was für ein groteskes Olligarchenprojekt hier vorliegt, sehen wir ja am Preisboxer, den die Adenauers fur cpviel Geld sponserten, der dann von der neocobraut N. mit fuck the eu kalt gestellt wurde. Seit Korea ist es den uSA nicht gelungen, einen einzigen ihrer Puppets zu installieren, ohne dauernd mit Zerstörung zu drohen.
Vietnam.. Pinochet... war die massenmordende Ausnahme.
Looser.
The arrogance displayed in U.S. foreign policy is astonishing.Cherry Picking!hmm.😳😎
Respectfully, what's your point? Wars have a winner and a loser (at least in an economic and political sense) - are you suggesting a win by the Axis would have been preferable?
oops...correction Norman Dodds.
@browneyes4 President Paul, Secretary of State Scheuer, Napolitano for Supreme court seat, Bruce Fein for DA.
Why does he have a strong blue-collar (“nuc-u-lar”) Milwaukee Polish-American accent? He’s from Buffalo!
He hardly touched on the Isreali issue when it comes to perpetuating terrorism in the world. Mentioned it maybe twice. This guy knows it is because of Isreal that there is so much Islamic extremism in the world
that's patently absurd.
@@monkeyb1820 it’s true
@@omgjimmyboy except Arab (Muslim) Israelis support Israel and realize that this idiot is a cia shill.
@@monkeyb1820 he’s actually not he’s been ostracized by the media and CIA for speaking out against the prevailing narratives and criticizing Israel. There are several hit pieces on him and he has a website called nonintervention2.
@@omgjimmyboy He's not ostracized from the cia, b/c he was featured on tv repeatedly, and tv=cia media. But he does not present the cool image of the new Jewhate, like Tlaib, Omar, Kanye convey. So he's about as cool as that old Arabist that founded wrmea. Young morons can't relate to old white guys like Scheuer. Nobody hates Israel as much as former HRW Jew Ken Roth, not ostracized in the least.
I like him
It is very sad to read the comments from David Ben-Abraham who sounded like hateful of all others who did not agree with his opinion about Israel's wrong doings expressed by the speaker. His choice of words used - traitor, to be silenced- tells the readers that he has extremist ideas to eliminate fact finders and presenters on this platform. I am sorry to see that it is coming from a Jew who always seeks a path of truth.
N. Vietnamese admired us like muslims did.
@Izzadīn Ar-Rūsī SO why did Sayd Kotb so agressively oppose Americanization of Islam? Could be the music, food, clothing and culture? Why are blue jeans so popular in Iran?
@Izzadīn Ar-Rūsī Insults never provide evidence. Try to review the actions and statements by Sayd Kotb the Egyptian martyr and the founder of the muslim brotherhood who was allied with Ayman Ziwahari, the al Qaeda leader. Like you they try to take Islam back a thousand years by opposing Westernization.
@Izzadīn Ar-Rūsī Iran is not a Muslim country? Really? Someone should tell them that.
watch the look on his face when he says at 14:39 "allah delivered a victory"
he certainly is
10 times.
He was right, the torture of the prisoners didn’t give any useful information.
wow, the seat of Evil welcomes the resident fascist! The two cruds are worth each other.
Waging wars on nouns, like terror or drugs, is clearly a path away from enlightenment and humanism.
Scheuer doesn't support Buchanan and Paul, he merely refers to their point of view.
And Jesse Ventura for Sec. of Defense :D
@bewaver I'd rather don't open that box .... might upset people! It would still be just my opinion and for the respect I have for him, I will not speak. It is reassuring to me that there are people acknowledging his courageous work.
He's basically saying the USA is too blame for a lot of the bad stuff that goes on in the middle east NOT Islam or Muslim.
I agree, too bad you mentioned 'Bush' in your comment as it was buried under more than a few thumbs down. Keep it up, and stay smart.
@Empurity Guess he didn't so well for 20 years tho...
Who’s here after the US withdrawal from Afghanistan?
Yes, of course, I'm still a Patriot. I do not support any alignment with either Israel or Saudi Arabia. From what I gather, Michael Scheuer is also critical of our support of Saudi Arabia too.