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I fly powered paragliders and I will mount the battery and most likely won't put it in my pocket anyway! Thank you a million I really was bummed about the factory run time
I was about to pass on hoodie becouse i dont want to buy batteries just for it. But since i do have m18 batteries i am realy considering buying hoodie. Cheers man. Will be good for fishing and work.
I’ve been running this since I bought my jacket 2 years ago with a M18 CP3.0 and I believe that battery will give you the best balance of comfort and power.
I bought the power topper from home depot. I find it fine with any of the compact m18 batteries for comfort. The 1.5ah m18 lasts about the same runtime as the 2.0ah m12 since that 1.5ah is at 18v and gets dropped to 12v. Anything bigger than the compact batteries isn't comfortable at all to wear
@@danielfher566 I haven't used the m12 3.0ah battery but I'd imagine it would last twice as long as the 1.5ah m12 battery. I have a m12 2.0ah battery, two m18 1.5ah batteries, and a m18 5ah battery
So much better to just get a few cp 3.0 and stick and extra one in the pocket on the other side and have one two three in your vehicle or wherever ready to go. Or just wear layers and run it on medium and get way more runtime. I have all these adapters and batteries and don’t like anything over the cp 3.0. I’ve used a m18 2.0 and even 3.0 HO and it’s just not worth it. The watt hours listed on the battery aren’t more. Will you get more runtime, yes but not enough more to want to deal with the size.
I don't understand your comment "the watt hours listed on the battery aren't more," especially since you immediately admitted that you do get more run time with the M18. The math is pretty simple and the battery ratings reflect this exactly. E.g. 2 Ah x 12 V = 24 Wh, which is what is printed on the battery, and 2 Ah x 18 V = 36 Wh, which again is what is printed on the battery. (Note that these are all "nominal" values.) Due to some unavoidable inefficiency in the buck converter within the M18 "Power Source" (worst product name ever, BTW) you don't get exactly 50 % more energy out of the M18 combination at 12 V. However it's pretty close according to some thorough tests on YT that I was searching for when I ran across this vid. My buddy only had a screencap to show me of the charted results. I looked specifically at the 2Ah comparison and it was very close to 50 % greater using the M18 combo. (Edit: and of course right away I found the vid: ruclips.net/video/06M-NbrztXo/видео.htmlsi=ErQ2OFWHtVliGftN) Now if you don't feel the extra weight is worth it, that's perfectly understandable. That's a subjective judgement. I strongly doubt that I'll be chucking a 9 or 12 Ah M18 in my pocket. Gawd, the weight of my overalls with the tools I normally have on me is plenty for this old man. I haven't experimented with some of my smaller M18's yet but if power is available for charging I think I'd lean towards having more 12V batteries on the go and cut down on carried weight.
Better yet but the DC adapter and put a battery babk in a backpack. You would have heat for weeks. Lol. But for real tho it's great if you have a DC socket in a car
AND IT SNOWS. Congrats on your 6' snowmageddon :) , and yes, in buffalo, m18 ROI is ok because you are at risk. Where we want strictly comfort, and sometimes heat for safety, the M12 3.0 they just came out with 2022, is maybe the way to go. I have a handful of the 1.5, 2.0 and now 3.0 M12, because the M18 can hit you hard if you jump and land, etc., very heavy.
I just got one for Christmas. But I find it interferes with my tool belt. Anyone know if you can get a cable extension so I can put the battery in my pouch
Yikes the 12v power supply is 80$ CAD you can find sale price of $30 CAD not sure how much the m18 power supply is now I bought mine many years ago if you don't have any Milwaukee batteries I'd price out what's cheaper m18 2.0 or M12 3.0
Does the 12v power "supply" have any converter or metering on it? Or is it purely just a barrel plug going into the terminals on the battery? Might just use some 18650 cells to make my own flat one...
Do the electronics in the jacket regulate the voltage so the jacket sees 12 volts even with an 18v battery, or does it run hotter with the m18 batteries?
Most electronic devices will only pull the max amount of power it can handle. Electricity doesn't get pushed into a device from a powersource. That's why it's called "draw" because device will draw power from a power source. I did some research on it a while back because I was worried about using a 30 watt charger for my cell phone. It only affects the time it takes to charge. If you are using a power source that is much larger than what the phones Max draw is then it will just draw power at the maximum amount the entire time. So if a device like a cell phone only draws 15 watts but you're using a 30 watt charger, it will charge as fast as it possibly can at a stedy 15 watts Max. Now if you use a 15-watt charger it may not pull the constant 15 watts the entire time so it will charge actually slower.... at least I think that's how it works anyway 🤷
@@YTOG. you’re correct about current but voltage is voltage. A 12v 10a device will pull 10a even if you hook it up to a 12v 30a power source. If you hook it up to a 24V source it could blow up depending on what it is.
@@Fade_Modded YES! This helps me figure out my heated visor question ("15V, 2 amp max"). Now I know what that means. Now if I could just find an M12 battery holder adapter to RCA ... lol But Thanks.
I know this is an ancient question but for the sake of more recent viewers... The M18 "Power Source" does the voltage conversion. It has two outputs - a 5V USB A connector for charging a phone or whatever, and a "pin and barrel" connector that outputs 12V for the heated gear or whatever. The jacket doesn't have to regulate voltage, and chances are, it can't. If you fudged an adapter to use 18V directly, I would be surprised if you didn't get over double the power dissipated (since power is proportional to voltage squared) and that just might be enough to get you in trouble since it's not designed for that. The little indicator LED's, their current-limiting resistors and the switching electronics might get uncomfortable as well depending on their ratings.
No. The M18 "Power Source" (which is better described as a DC-to-DC adapter or converter) drops the voltage to 12V which is what the heated gear is designed for. Depending on the battery you choose, you can get more time but not higher power dissipation aka "more heat."
Well you increases voltage by 50% which will increase amps by 50% increasing the wattage by 125%. That’s more then a little. Which is wasn’t designed for 👀
It actually holds up super well, im I’m Washington and do commercial roof structures. Was in the no. Stop rain for 8 hours today and aside from water running up my sleeves when lifting my arms and the jacket getting a bit heavier , the water did not soak through and the heater kept me warm. Game changer
What’s the build date printed on the battery? and how many times would you say you’ve used it/recharged etc? e.g heavy use daily mechanic or diy one charge cycle per week
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Is that m18 12.0 in your pocket.. or are you just happy to see me?
Bro that's going to keep you warm all year long.
Coming next week how to wire your MX battery to your jacket 😂
I fly powered paragliders and I will mount the battery and most likely won't put it in my pocket anyway! Thank you a million I really was bummed about the factory run time
I was about to pass on hoodie becouse i dont want to buy batteries just for it. But since i do have m18 batteries i am realy considering buying hoodie. Cheers man. Will be good for fishing and work.
8 hour days.....LOL
Try 12s.... but I have multiple m12s and I never run full power
I’ve been running this since I bought my jacket 2 years ago with a M18 CP3.0 and I believe that battery will give you the best balance of comfort and power.
May God bless you as well.
And thank you for the good video
I find a 5.0 is a pretty good battery gives good running time and is not too heavy
I bought the power topper from home depot. I find it fine with any of the compact m18 batteries for comfort. The 1.5ah m18 lasts about the same runtime as the 2.0ah m12 since that 1.5ah is at 18v and gets dropped to 12v. Anything bigger than the compact batteries isn't comfortable at all to wear
Thanks for sharing
Have you used it with the 3.0 m12 battery? Is it much of a difference to the 1.5 m12 batter? I'm going to buy one battery was curious which you'd go.
@@danielfher566 I haven't used the m12 3.0ah battery but I'd imagine it would last twice as long as the 1.5ah m12 battery. I have a m12 2.0ah battery, two m18 1.5ah batteries, and a m18 5ah battery
The m18 5.0ah one while lasts a really long time is just too big and heavy to be comfortable to use
It would be cool if you could 3d print some sort of belt clip for the battery.
Awesome thanks, any ideas on how to fix the adapter connector cord, mines all frayed, i hear liquid electrical tape , any thoughts?
I just run a 6ah m12, lasts all day on high and less bulky
That’s what I was looking for.
Thanks so much for this video!
So much better to just get a few cp 3.0 and stick and extra one in the pocket on the other side and have one two three in your vehicle or wherever ready to go. Or just wear layers and run it on medium and get way more runtime. I have all these adapters and batteries and don’t like anything over the cp 3.0. I’ve used a m18 2.0 and even 3.0 HO and it’s just not worth it. The watt hours listed on the battery aren’t more. Will you get more runtime, yes but not enough more to want to deal with the size.
I don't understand your comment "the watt hours listed on the battery aren't more," especially since you immediately admitted that you do get more run time with the M18.
The math is pretty simple and the battery ratings reflect this exactly. E.g. 2 Ah x 12 V = 24 Wh, which is what is printed on the battery, and 2 Ah x 18 V = 36 Wh, which again is what is printed on the battery. (Note that these are all "nominal" values.)
Due to some unavoidable inefficiency in the buck converter within the M18 "Power Source" (worst product name ever, BTW) you don't get exactly 50 % more energy out of the M18 combination at 12 V. However it's pretty close according to some thorough tests on YT that I was searching for when I ran across this vid. My buddy only had a screencap to show me of the charted results. I looked specifically at the 2Ah comparison and it was very close to 50 % greater using the M18 combo.
(Edit: and of course right away I found the vid:
ruclips.net/video/06M-NbrztXo/видео.htmlsi=ErQ2OFWHtVliGftN)
Now if you don't feel the extra weight is worth it, that's perfectly understandable. That's a subjective judgement. I strongly doubt that I'll be chucking a 9 or 12 Ah M18 in my pocket. Gawd, the weight of my overalls with the tools I normally have on me is plenty for this old man. I haven't experimented with some of my smaller M18's yet but if power is available for charging I think I'd lean towards having more 12V batteries on the go and cut down on carried weight.
Better yet but the DC adapter and put a battery babk in a backpack. You would have heat for weeks. Lol. But for real tho it's great if you have a DC socket in a car
I have a Metabo heated jacket, I use my M18 batteries exclusively, gets cold here in Buffalo NY
AND IT SNOWS. Congrats on your 6' snowmageddon :) , and yes, in buffalo, m18 ROI is ok because you are at risk. Where we want strictly comfort, and sometimes heat for safety, the M12 3.0 they just came out with 2022, is maybe the way to go. I have a handful of the 1.5, 2.0 and now 3.0 M12, because the M18 can hit you hard if you jump and land, etc., very heavy.
What’s the run time with that humongous M18 12.0 battery? Like 7 months?
12 years 🤣
I just got one for Christmas. But I find it interferes with my tool belt. Anyone know if you can get a cable extension so I can put the battery in my pouch
I gotta get one of those jackets. My shop is freezing lol
Yeah they are awesome
Don’t get a tool brand one
What's everyone's go to battery just bought the heated vest it did not come with battery or charger so I'm looking around.
Yikes the 12v power supply is 80$ CAD you can find sale price of $30 CAD not sure how much the m18 power supply is now I bought mine many years ago if you don't have any Milwaukee batteries I'd price out what's cheaper m18 2.0 or M12 3.0
Does the 12v power "supply" have any converter or metering on it? Or is it purely just a barrel plug going into the terminals on the battery? Might just use some 18650 cells to make my own flat one...
Yes it has a battery life indicator
I like that jacket, which one is that one?
just get a generator .. and connect it .. that will last for a year ..
Do the electronics in the jacket regulate the voltage so the jacket sees 12 volts even with an 18v battery, or does it run hotter with the m18 batteries?
Most electronic devices will only pull the max amount of power it can handle. Electricity doesn't get pushed into a device from a powersource. That's why it's called "draw" because device will draw power from a power source. I did some research on it a while back because I was worried about using a 30 watt charger for my cell phone. It only affects the time it takes to charge. If you are using a power source that is much larger than what the phones Max draw is then it will just draw power at the maximum amount the entire time. So if a device like a cell phone only draws 15 watts but you're using a 30 watt charger, it will charge as fast as it possibly can at a stedy 15 watts Max. Now if you use a 15-watt charger it may not pull the constant 15 watts the entire time so it will charge actually slower.... at least I think that's how it works anyway 🤷
@@YTOG. you’re correct about current but voltage is voltage. A 12v 10a device will pull 10a even if you hook it up to a 12v 30a power source. If you hook it up to a 24V source it could blow up depending on what it is.
@@Fade_Modded YES! This helps me figure out my heated visor question ("15V, 2 amp max"). Now I know what that means. Now if I could just find an M12 battery holder adapter to RCA ... lol But Thanks.
I know this is an ancient question but for the sake of more recent viewers...
The M18 "Power Source" does the voltage conversion. It has two outputs - a 5V USB A connector for charging a phone or whatever, and a "pin and barrel" connector that outputs 12V for the heated gear or whatever. The jacket doesn't have to regulate voltage, and chances are, it can't. If you fudged an adapter to use 18V directly, I would be surprised if you didn't get over double the power dissipated (since power is proportional to voltage squared) and that just might be enough to get you in trouble since it's not designed for that. The little indicator LED's, their current-limiting resistors and the switching electronics might get uncomfortable as well depending on their ratings.
Does the bigger battery make it warmer?
Just we got one for my son and its not that warm with 2.o battery.
Can someone tell me what they think
No. The M18 "Power Source" (which is better described as a DC-to-DC adapter or converter) drops the voltage to 12V which is what the heated gear is designed for. Depending on the battery you choose, you can get more time but not higher power dissipation aka "more heat."
What’s the name of that jacket?
Do you know where I can buy a new thing that goes on the battery because I lost mine
I think they call it a "controller". try ebay
I might want that jacket to warm me up in the cold Canadian winter.
Yes sir!
Dude love this hack but always wonder 18vdc vs 12vdc. Manuel says don’t change batterie but it works so idk.
Well you increases voltage by 50% which will increase amps by 50% increasing the wattage by 125%. That’s more then a little. Which is wasn’t designed for 👀
The m18 power supply is regulated to 12v dc at the barrel connector. It’s not running off 18v out of that connector.
Yea ok that don’t fit in pocket!
does the m18 give you any extra heat?
I have the hoodie. It is significantly warmer with the m18 battery.
👍👍👍
This jacket is not for winter🌨🌨, because you will get so cold. so sad,
I have my carhartt:)
It actually holds up super well, im I’m Washington and do commercial roof structures.
Was in the no. Stop rain for 8 hours today and aside from water running up my sleeves when lifting my arms and the jacket getting a bit heavier , the water did not soak through and the heater kept me warm. Game changer
My 3.0AH battery lasted less than a hour, both settings on, jacket!!
What’s the build date printed on the battery?
and how many times would you say you’ve used it/recharged etc? e.g heavy use daily mechanic or diy one charge cycle per week