Final 350 Legend Review! 350 is the thumper we've been looking for.
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Has 350 Legend gotten past its growing pains? Is it the heavy hitter that Winchester promised? After months of extensive testing with nearly every factory load available on the market, I can definitively say that yes: 350 Legend is ready, willing, and able to flatten the hogs and deer in your sights.
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350 Legend uses a case roughly the same size as 223 Remington to deliver a LOT more energy at close to medium distances. More than enough to take down medium game. In the face of well-established heavy hitters like 6.5 Grendel, 450 Bushmaster, or 458 SOCOM, what advantages are there to choosing the 350 Legend? First, the swap is easy. Just replace the barrel and mags. That's it. No need to use a special bolt head or buffer. Second, you get more rounds per mag. Third, the entire 9mm and 357 Magnum projectile catalog is available for you to play with. Got a favorite pill? 350 Legend can launch it at rifle speeds.
Watch the whole video to see how different ammo performs at realistic distances: ballistic gel hits at 100 and 200 yards.
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Kyle Broderick, The Social Regressive
I've been looking for a home defense deer hunting gun combo which for hunting performed similar to my 30-30 Winchester rifle but came in an AR-15 format and checked all the Michigan Deer hunting law boxes. Literally, this 350 legend seems like the magic bullet.
You're absolutely right. .30-30 is a fair comparison.
Made the same move today! Just made sense.
Straight wall cartridge states usually don’t have a mag capacity on pistols. An AR pistol in 350 L may have what u are looking 4
@@garretthegun4982 I ended up building an AR-15 350L rifle with a 16in barrel. Originally thought I was unable to hunt with anything less than a 16in barrel but learned later that was wrong. For hunting, Pistol capacity limit is 9 rounds, where rifle is 5 rounds. Think my next AR-15 build will be a 350L Pistol with a 8.5-10.5in barrel.
@@SocialRegressive I always compared the 450 BM to the 20 g slug and the legend to a 410 slug..
I’m willing to bet that if actually had a suppressor on that CMMG, the added back pressure would cycle the bolt just fine. Why anyone would actually choose ammo called “super suppressed” and run it without a suppressor is beyond me.
But your series about the 350 legend has been excellent. I just recently converted an older AR 15 with a Ballistic Advantage barrel and I’m super happy!
yea exactly, I was wondering why he was shooting super suppressed without a suppressor. Other than that, great video. Ive been looking at getting 350 legend since I already shoot 300blk suppressed (subs for close range and supers for hunting). The 350 legend is the most powerful round that my Wolfman suppressor can handle, and provides more energy than 300blk in both subs and supers
After lots of research I decided this was the round for my second. I was looking for something with knock down and considered the 308. I have a 6.5 Swedish bolt. Like you said, who wouldn't want a 357 magnum type high capacity mag.
I've been away for awhile, but recently went hog hunting with a CVA cascade bolt action 350 legend. I dropped a 225 lb, fully tusked boar with it, and man it was exhilirating! Thank you for all of this information, as I think I will be adding to my new 350 legend arsenal! Thank you! Kapper
Great vid. If you're not limited to straight walled cartridges and want a better
.35 cal AR, go with the .358 wssm. 200 gr bullet @2650.
Man you really do such a great job on explaining things 👍 guess ima have to get me a 350 😂 just finished a 6.5 Grendel and man I’m in love with it !!! But I guess that will wear off soon because the last 10 builds I loved also 😂 but the grendel is different kinda cool tho
I shopped the Grendel vs the 350 hard, and went with the 350. As sweet around as the Grendel is, I don't need range past 200yds, and the 350 dropping like a stone after 200 is a feature not a bug for me. I don't have to worry about a 1000yd death ray streaking off into the distance if I miss a shot. The accuracy of the 350 is pretty impressive too. It looks to be quite stable for a thumper (junior) round. The Grendel can be cheaper to shoot, and for the Western boys, it would make a damned fine antelope rifle. Here in the East where we're shooting off hand more and in rolling hills, the 350 scratches the itch just fine.
"Yakkity Snacks"?! 😂
I glad to hear you have a rig that you love, Mate!
I know how exciting it is to find your perfect handload/s...
Straight-walled cartridges are my thing, & I wonder if those pressure problems that you discussed would be an issue in the Forcing Cone of a BFR?...
I imagine the BFR could handle this very well, especially since it would probably require moon clips. No need to worry too much about headspace.
@@SocialRegressive Don't forget the 350 Legend headspaces off the case mouth. To short a cartridge is held in place by the extractor and will cause headspace problems. Hornady found this out the hard way, the only difference between the original 450 Bushmaster and the black version is the Black has a .005 longer brass.
This is an extremely informative video! Love the work you do on this round, it’s very hard to find info out there on this caliber I consider this channel one of the leading experts on 350 legend! I’ve been trying out some plinking reloads for 350 legend with sone 115 grain 9mm bullets, I’d love to see a video of you trying out to find a load for some plinking ammo!
I have a bunch of lighter bullets I could try. It would be interesting to see how they hit.
Nice! Just invested in this caliber after learning some valuable lessons on my 1st Hog Hunt. Very informative. Thanks!
350 Legend is what 458 socom should have been. I hope 350 really makes it .. it sits in the Goldilocks zone for so many uses.
@Thystaff Thywill
Or the 6.8spc
I think it would make a good round for special forces and cqb
@@RickJamesGhostGuns I load 90 gr gold dots in my 6.8 and love them. Haven’t taken any game yet but screaming out of a 21” barrel should slam them
@Thystaff Thywill rip
@@RickJamesGhostGuns rip
The subsonic bullets are really intended for suppressed rifles. Thus, heavier to add energy and thus longer which requires higher twist rates to stabilize. See AP2020. There aren’t intended to ‘tumble’ in the flesh.
Some reloaders are reporting good results putting jacketed bullets through sizing dies. I’ve not tried, but .358 rifle bullets might size down to .356 in a Lee sizing die and work ok.
The .350 headspaces off of the case mouth. Roll crimps should NOT be used. Yes, the case length has to be maintained to spec. I intend to use the Lee Factory crimp die (lightly).
One fun thing to witness in all the gel tests was the greater penetration at lower impact velocities. This is an anticipated outcome: at lower velocity the bullet does not expand as much, the resistance is reduced so greater penetration.
Cheers
I was on the fence about getting a 350 upper and after watching this video I think im falling onto threw right side.
I'm glad to see someone testing gel at longer distances and really enjoy the details that you give
Oh, yes!!! A gel test 10 feet from the muzzle might be interesting to make sure OBL goes down with three, but I pop game animals out to 400 yards so this is great testing. Especially true for cartridges that use pistol bullets, such as 350 Legend and 450 Bushmaster.
I see you've done most of the 350 Legend ammo. I'm waiting for the Hornady 165 grain FTX.
If your a seasoned handloader, you already know why this is such a great caliber. I have loaded 147 jhp for 53 cents a round, that's using all new components (yes including bass) Once you have the brass it can drop as low as 16 cents + depending on bullet selection. (pre-virus price) For a powerhouse that'll take down bear that's simply amazing. I doubt you could find any other AR caliber that gives you that bang for your buck. I have 15 ARs in varying calibers so I got a pretty good handle on what it takes... thanks for the vid. BTW SR, you need to show the folks what a 90gr lehigh extreem defender will do. I'm getting over 2800fps (16") with those. And for those of you who are on the fence, would you get an AR in 357mag? well here you are, x 2.
This right here. Nailed it, Jon.
Would you take a bear with a .357 magnum?
@@borkwoof696
Depends on a lot of things.. How big a bear, what distance one is.. Bears even giant Kodiak can be killed with a 22 short if you are close enough and placement is correct so with the right load yes bears can be taken.
Mac 11700 I‘m not talking about what CAN be used but what about is adequate if given a choice and I don’t think .357 is that.
let's get real here, it's a deer round for restrictive states and the recoil sensitive but hunting bear with it is NOT advised. I bought one last year and took 2 deer with it, good hits but had to track both for some time. There's a good chance you'll end up bear scat when using one for that purpose unless you have a very well placed shot.
Thank you for details with so many different rounds. Really thinking of getting a 350 legend for feral pigs here in Texas. Great info
Great video. One of the most informative videos pertaining to firearm reviews I've seen.
Really like the video, through explanation, I really appreciate all the work you did on this video. One thing though remember subsonic ammo is designed to generate enough pressure to cycle the action while using a suppressor. Without a can, subsonic ammo most likely will have issues cycling a semi-auto firearm.
Thanks for spending time on each of the companies ammo.., keeps me from spending money on rounds I probably wouldn't like.
Its great that you are at real world ranges it is almost worthless to shoot at gel at 15 yard to show results.
Yeah, I wanted the weight and handling of the AR platform, but in a hunting rifle. 350 Legend seems to deliver on that. I'd be okay hunting black bear with this round, with the right load. Hogs, yotes, and deer are my main targets, so this is perfect. I also like that I can't mix up the calibers because it uses specific mags. I still want a 30 round or more magazine. But I'm pretty happy with it thanks to all the information I learned here.
i shave my pmag inside and they work great
If they weren't so expensive I would love to see you guys do a handload with the 125 grain Hammer bullets..
Holy cow! That's a dollar a bullet!
@@SocialRegressive
Yup.. These aren't plinkers but from everything I have seen they are definitely a great hunting bullet and should give us 350 legend handloaders a bullet that will be accurate to 300 yards and beyond and have good energy as well, if their claims are accurate of getting 2500 fps+ from them.
Extremely good and timely information as I am building my AR 350 Legend. I did finally find some ammo, the Hornady Custom 165gr FTX. What are your thought on that bullet?
If it's perfect for killing deer, it's perfect for killing people, an excellent self defence cartridge, if you need to shoot past 200 yard, get a cheap used 30-06 bolt action.
Outstanding job on this cartridge. By far the best testing done here. Thanks Kyle👍👍
You're the man. I'm glad you found those problems early on so we can live in a happy 350 Legend-filled world.
Wow, I love this channel. Very articulate and concise presentation. Nice work.
Thank you very much! There's more on the way!
Do you have a summary of the accuracy (in MOA @ 100 yards) for the different loads and powders tested?
If someone is loading 350l in 115g 9mm fmj bullets which are like the only bullets I can find in my area that are not $0.30 to $0.40 each I've tried lil'gun, not getting full obturation yet. From reading I'm thinking IMR 4227 might be a better option since it should hit full case capacity before hitting max psi of the cartridge. I only have 200yrd ranges so I want a steel plate smacker. If have to go heavy with casts or plated I'm all ears. I have a lee 356 sizer to knock down casts, add my own gas checks or size down 357/358 sizes to keep pressures down. So 115g and 200g tests would be appreciated, for educational purposes only. So more 350 reload videos would be highly appreciated.
Thank you for the video, I already have a lower ready for its new upper :)
If your viewers are building their own upper, they should be sure to open up the receiver feed ramps a little.
Also don't give Winchester too much credit for development, wildcatters have been turning the rim off the 357 Remington Maximum cartridge for years.
And to expand bullet selection even further, you can easily swage .358 bullets down to .356 (although the ogive is too long on some to fit an AR mag).
That's a good point to mention. The CMMG feed ramp is just one huge slide.
Just an FYI, a 20rd .223/5.56 mag gives you 18rds in 6.5Grendel, a 30rd.223/5.56 is a 25rd mag in Grendel.
NOT RELIABLY.... THE MAG IS TOO STRAIT..... NEEDS MORE CURVE LIKE AN AK MAG
@@jeffmaines1507 I have a 25 round Grendel mag, it has a slightly different angle but the same size as a 30 round 556 mag
Beings i own a 5.56 I was interested in a new upper for 350 legend. Last season I dropped my dear in its its tracks. Never done that with my 243, very happy with accuracy and cost.
What bullet ?
RDB or some other bullpup with 24 inch legend barrel could be getting close to ideal slugger
Oh, heck yes.
Outstandingly informational vid! Thank you for all the work that you put into these projects.
I used the 180gr A-typical on deer last season. Worked fantastic. Excellent wound channel. It was the most accurate load I tested. The A-typical is a different bullet than the standard Federal load.
Do you know the difference in the bullets between nontypical and regular blue box? Some claim they are the same but packaged differently. Thank you.
I have paid no attention to this round until now. I have been asking for a reliable high cap 357 mag loaded for a semi auto rifle. This is it +P. But to late. I've moved on to 44 mag for that role. I get bored with the AR. Give me a smooth running lever gun.
I feel that way about revolvers sometimes.
@The Saint's Pigeon
Bad taste detected
This 350 Legend series was excellent. Thanks much for this. Hope you can add to it as additional ammo become available from different ammo and bullet manufacturers.
Curious, you name the bunch of the heavier calibers used in ARs but did not mention 50 Beowulf. Just curious on your thoughts and why you excluded it. Not harassing mind you just curious to pick your brain.
In a previous video I included 50 Beowulf in a comparison. It dumps a lot more energy than these others, but its ballistics are so shockingly terrible that I consider the round to be useful only within a hundred yards or so.
Oh Ya, Hogs can be a real Lead Sponge.
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Ruger American takes AR style mags.
Another benefit you didn’t mention is that it is legal to hunt deer with in Iowa because it’s straight walled. Makes a great youth gun in an AR because there’s much less recoil than a 20 gauge which was the best option until this. My wife and daughter both have 350 legends now and I use a 450 bm. I’ve shot 10-15 deer with the 450 so far with hornady black FTX and they blow fist size holes.
Innerflame I’m aware. And so is the DNR. They listed it as legal.
That’s a lot of great information! Well done thank you!
sorry im gonna take GunBlue490's opinion of which the 350 Legend isnt that great and Winchester made it look much better than it really is. not saying it's a bad round but where they compared it to a 30-30 the numbers seemed off.
Yeah, I think the comparisons fall a little flat. It's not an earth-shattering, world-beating round. I'm a fan, though, after seeing its gel performance and feeling it in action. We're working on a hog hunt, and I can't wait to see what it can really do in the wild.
@@SocialRegressive yeah it is a really cool round I just didn't like that Winchester kinda fudged the 30-30 numbers to make it look better. It's definitely a huge help for that rule of no bottleneck cartridges that's for sure.
That front Grove on the 5.56 mag is for round set back.
It has nothing to do to strengthen the mag!
It's so the rounds stop on the shoulder bouncing around under recoil and the bullet doesn't hit the mag and get set back into the case.
RUclipsr : 350 legend is great for handloaders, you can use your favorite 9mm or 38/357 projectiles for an AR15 platform rifle Me : begins casting 148 grain wadcutters
Heck yes.
The Social Regressive just picked up a 350 upper from Bear Creek Arsenal and I felt it was necessary to put it on a Anderson lower with aero precision parts. With the buffer tube assembly and magpie stock I will be right at $400. This is my first build and was cheaper than even the bolt actions options. I have not had a chance to run it but I have been vigorously sanding down the inside of Pmags in anticipation of our public lands in my state opening back up. Any chance you will play with any Trail Boss loads with cast bullets? Maybe even just for likes and lols
Logan Waltz what if I use soft cast projectiles and with trail boss to keep it under 1100 fps. Would that help my case?
Real good video.Well made and very descriptive.
I built a 350 legend with all Palmetto State Armory parts except the barrel and it's a Bear Creeks Arms stainless spiral fluted . I built a 450 Bushmaster before the 350 and wanted less recoil. I like the 350 Legend.It is a very good round out to 200 yards and my is very accurate. Prior to my build I had read the 350 Legend had accuracy problems. Not So With Mine.I have a FLIR 4X Thermal on it and it's a HOG Wrecker.
I shoot Federal 140 grain primarily in it.I have not reloaded for it yet.Just ordered the dies.
This was one of the best videos I've watched in a longtime.Thank you.
Great video I can’t an AR style gun in Australia so I have the ruger American bolt action still waiting for it I think the Carona virus is holding up shipments but can’t wait for it
I think you're going to love it. If you guys can have AR magazines there, you should check out the new Boyds bottom metal for AR mags.
My dad has the American, heoves it...
You're not gonna see guns from America for nearly another year if I had to be honest. The shortage here.. in a country with over 500 million civilian owned weapons mind you, is horrendous.
I'm sticking with the Grendel. Great content all the same mate, very interesting.
Can't lose with Grendel!
It’s not a sin to own more than one upper...
The round has only been out for a year, might become much more common than the Grendel sooner than you think. I’ll be trying it out this summer as an alternative to the 5.56;)
@@JeepCherokeeful not with the 6mm ARC
If you can use a necked cartridge on deer, go for it.
If you live in a place that requires a straight walled cartridge like Ohio, I think that .350 legend is a decent choice. If you want to use an ar platform, you’re only looking at .450bushmaster, .350 legend, .50 Beowulf, .40s&w, 10mm, .45acp, or a wildcat cartridge. I wouldn’t even consider a pistol caliber ar, except 10mm, which is rare, finicky, and still not up there with .350, .450, .50. Out of those three, I would rule out .50 Beowulf, because it’s the least common, ammunition isn’t easily found. Then you’re left with two good choices. .350 legend is adequate, cheaper ammunition, cheaper build, lower recoil, and possibly less destructive of meat. .450 bushmaster is harder hitting, more recoil for sensitive shooters like kids, more expensive to build, more expensive to shoot, and some people have said that it is too destructive on deer. Two good choices for people in straight walled states. I wouldn’t hesitate to try a .350 legend on deer after seeing the ballistic gel at distance. I still haven’t decided on one yet, but it will probably be.350 legend. Then I will spend less on something that’s only going to have a few hundred rounds through it in its lifetime. I will feel better about my wife and/or daughters using it if they want to. It uses more common thread patterns, so I won’t have to buy a specific mount for my suppressor. It sounds like a win to me.
gear series of videos man!!! the only gripe I have about it is that not everyone that has access to the 350 legend will be able to guy an AR platform for it. A bolt action rifle would've been better to test the cartridge, especially when it comes to accuracy. But I don't blame you for not testing a bolt action however, considering that outside of the Midwest they seem to be hard to find.
If it came down to it though and Texas for whatever reason said only straight walls for big game, I'd gratefully get ahead of the curve and grab a Ruger or Winchester in 350 Legend.
I really would like to see the 80gr TUI from Fort Scott in this. Should be able to get through anything below level 3 with ease. Maybe even some level 3 stuff. And the 68gr XD should be exemplary in this gun. If I i was going for a gas gun, I would go for this or a 22arc. I have 223 in a bolt gun, and i prefer it there.
Thanks for all the time and energy put int to find out why a new round is called LEGEND when it is launched. My youngest brother built an AR in .350 Legend from a 20 inch Bear Creek Arsenal complete upper, a lower receiver that he found on sale and a lower receiver parts kit. Mostly because the AR is modular and can adjust to his kids as they grow, but he can also take it over to Ohio and hunt deer with it. Mostly only shot the white box 145 grainers and the Deer Season XP. The XP was much more accurate of course.
I look forward to more testing, but also wouldn't mind seeing a comparison with the AR vs a bolt action rifle like the Savage Axis, Ruger American, Winchester XPR, etc... He won't reload for it since ammo isn't too expensive and he has other rifles that he would use in more states for hunting.
I would go .350 Legend, but since he has one I guess I have to go .450 BM.
@Cap or 458 Socom
I bought BCAs 450bm side charger. I'll never buy another top charger. The internet is full of people saying the 450 kicks to hard. I'm 5'9 and 230lbs and it's nothing. Way less than a CVA Optima firing 230gr with two 777 50/50s. It's a great round.
@@handlesaredumb1 thanks 🙏 for your review based on experience with the cartridge. I have shot a bolt gun in 450 BM and it was fine. I also have shot a couple 300 WM and they don’t bother me.
@TheWVgoodguy22 I figured I'd share. I almost didn't buy it because of all the recoil shy comments. First time firing it I was so nervous that I wouldn't like it and wasted my money. Glad I took the chance.
Hey there. Awesome info on 350 legend!! Wonder if you’re looking at the GMX copper bullet for us in California. Love to see a video on solid bullets. Thanks for all the videos and good work.
I have a tough question for ya. If you had to choose one of the following calibers in a bolt gun for an all around scout style rifle for protecting a homestead from everything from 2 legged kind to whitetail and wild boar, what would you choose. Shots would not exceed 250m. Also factoring in reloading. 5.56, 350 legend, 7.62x39, 300blk, 450 bushmaster, 6.5 grendel. Thanks for all you do and special thanks for any reply.
Fun question! Assuming we continue to have access to surplus ammo, I might be inclined to favor 7.62x39, especially if I can get into a bolt-action rifle that accepts larger magazines. Soft-point, hollow-point, and ballistic-tip 7.62x39 can be devastating. The cartridge is also more accurate that many people expect. It's really the AK-47 that's holding it back. It's cheap, too!
@@SocialRegressive Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I was also leaning toward the x39. If you didn't notice yet, I am really interested in the Ruger American Ranch and those calibers listed are the only ones they offer. If they offered it in a .243, 7mm08 or .308, this would be an open and shut case. lol
The thorough testing and details of these tests have been great! Thank you so much sir for all the work and great content! Looking forward to seeing the xtp tests and maybe some gold dots? (Hint hint)
You're right. I should try the Gold Dots.
@@SocialRegressive just came in from testing some. The 125s are SCREAMING and the 147s (both gold dots) "ain't no slouch either". Both were loaded with LiL Gun.
Thanks for sharing, would you please consider trying 300 yards shooting for 350 Legend??
It's outta gas at 200yds on medium game, what would be the point?
The whole point of these straight wall cartridges, is that they run out of steam really fast beyond 200 yards. Winchester worked closely with agencies like Iowa DNR to develop an effective deer cartridge that wouldn't carry too far in farm country. Asking a .350 to do wonders at extended range, is like asking #8 shot to be effective against Geese... not really what it was intended for.
Great video. Thank you. I bought a 350 legend upper from Bear Creek Arsenal, very good upper used the Federal 180 grain last year. I wanted the larger bullet because of the ft lbs of energy it hit with. I shot a buck at about 50 yards in the neck and it dropped him where he stood. My son shot a great lung shot on a doe at 135 yards with the same round and she only ran about 30 yards in an open field, for which I'm glad because the exit wound was tiny and left very little blood trail. I'm interested in those Winchester 150 grain Extreme Point rounds, but here's my question. Do you risk it expending all its energy at upfront with a big wound, but then not exiting, thus not having much to trail by?
I expect so. The 180s punched through ALL the gel I had, and the 150s tended to stop about 18 inches in, if I recall correctly. On an actual animal with bone, you stand a good chance of having no exit wound. I might recommend the Winchester 180s. They expand reliably at any distance, and they carry enough energy for exit. The new Power Shok 160s rock, too.
Thanks for sharing your stories! It's good to hear from folks that have used the cartridge in the field.
The last hog I shot here in Texas was a stout 175lb boar right at 90 yards. I used the Winchester 150 grain XP. I hit him high right shoulder and he went straight down. I could barely see the entrance wound, no blood, but when I flipped him over there was a nickel sized exit hole. It expanded very well and dumped its energy internally and pushed right on through. So I wouldn't imagine any problem with the 150 XP "stopping short" in a deer.
And right there is the difference between tests and real world experience. Thanks, ericka!
@@SocialRegressive You are very welcome. I must thank you as well, as your video series on the 350 Legend and the different ammo availability, plus the possible performance we might expect in the field at realistic hunting distances helped me decide on what ammo to chose for shooting hogs. I have no doubt that the Winchester 180 grain Power Point would perform very well and plow through even the very large hogs based on your testing, and I will try them next. But I liked the bit of extra speed and the EXPLOSIVE expansion coupled with the ability to penetrate of the 150 grain XP. I believe the more popular this cartridge becomes the more ammo will be refined and optimized for a wide range of game hunting, from lighter grain varmint bullets to more companies developing the heavier better performing deer rounds like the XP. Again, thank you for a great series, hope to see more on the 359 Legend from you.
I bought mine and so many others lol. But I'm really excited to get this 350 out of it's case!!
I have a Ruger American Predator 20" gen 1 in 350 legend. Also look into 6.8 spc. Handload speer 130 gr. Short bullets that save powder space. One is a flat base the other is a spbt. Both are interchangeable with speer load data. I have a custom 22" 4 groove 10 twist. I run Hornady leverevolution powder and Berger classic hunter 130 gr (.498 G1 B.C) at 2600+ fps and is safe in my Bison Armory short freebore AR competition rifle.
I'd be very interested in seeing ballistic performance from the 180gr swift a frame bullets. This would be very close to a Nosler partition load.
I recently picked up a mossberg patriot in350 L and it is very accurate within NE deer ranges. 1” groups at 100 yds with the 145gr fmj. At $10 a box it’s a fun cheap way to get good brass too. The Hornady ftx works great too
This was a great video. What caught my main attention as you have already sold me on this cartridge was the winchester FMJ component bullet. If its .355 then I would really like to try it in my 9mm PCC as its chamber will go for 9x19 and 9x21. That more conicle shape interests me. And if other component bullets from other manufacturers are in the .355 even a touch heavy could prove usefull in the 9mm PCC as a hunting cartridge for short to medium short range. Mine sperts a very heavy barrel that can handel hotter loads. Please let me know if any of these component bullets are in the .355 range. Thankyou.
Sorry, I'm not buying that running .357 / .358s is advisable in this chambering.
Certainly not .358s. But I've already tested 357" with good results.
Ruger needs to make a mini-350 (mini-14 platform) version. Just to be cool...
That would be a handy a fun little monster!
Good call, Victor. That would be fun, love the classic design. I have an AR in .350 legend, but would be really tempted by a "mini 35".
I seen a RUclips video on them 9 mm round it put a 4in wound Channel through a hunk of ham that turn the ham into minced meat it was insane! I want to try reloading but that aspect just makes me nervous because I want them 9mm Shredder rounds
Do you have any observations re: Hornady's Interlock 170gr. spire point bullet? Thanks
Great video. I've been keeping close tabs on these 350 Legend videos. My rig is almost done now. What buffer weight is your AR using?
I need to check. I think it's the H3? Don't quote me.
@@SocialRegressive I had troubles in mine (Faxon barrel with carbine length gas system) with short stroking with and H2. I tried the carbine weight and it seemed like ejection was a bit aggressive. I have an H that is stuck in shipping and I hope that does the trick. Thanks again for the excellent videos!
Michael Schulte was your rifle ejecting in the 3-4:30 direction? I have a BCA upper that is amazing. Tight groups and perfect ejection pattern with carbine buffer. Maybe look at your BCG. If it isn’t a full shroud that might be your problem. If you have the not so common semi auto carrier, the H buffer equals out that weight.
@@iowamike7241 ejection position is pretty good. With the H2 it was short stroking. With the carbine it seemed that the bolt was slamming open way too hard. The BCG is Faxon as well as the barrel. I had an AR Stoner brand upper that would not chamber a round. It constantly got the round jammed against the bolt face and the top of the barrel. Actually buckled/kinked the brass it was jamming so hard. Since the internet seems to think that AR Stoner is made under contract from BCA I was nervous to try them. Glad yours is working bthough!
Hey y’all, anybody here use the 350 for coyotes? I was looking to use the 124gr. I don’t know if it’s legal to hunt coyotes with FMJ in Indiana. What caliber did/would you use?
Can u get a hold of Hornady 165 ftx? Love ur vids, best content
outstanding review UNIFORM BULLET SEATING DEPTH IS KEY TO ACCURACY .
Lehigh isn't posting load data for the 90grn XD. Sounds like most are getting 3,300fps but nobody is sharing load data. I'm planning on starting at 30grn of Lil Gun working towards 33.
What I want more than anything for this caliber is for someone to finally run with bulk ammo for 350. I want bulk 350 cheaper than white box.
Very informative! I’m fairly new to the AR platform and have had fun with 556. Now I want to build a hunting rifle and this might just be the caliber. I’m a new subscriber because your detail is very good. Thanks for a great video!!
Thanks, Derek, and welcome!
The slower twist is because to keep the PSI down. If it had a 1-10 the PSI will raise a lot higher. Some of the custom barrels out there right now that have the 1-10 hit pressure faster than the guns with 1-16.
I had wondered about that.
Fantastic video! Thanks for taking the time to make this. Enjoyed it!
My cousin killed a nice 9pt. And a 250lb hog with the Browning tipped ammo. He loves his 350 legend he has the Ruger American go wild
Nice Work! 6.5 Grendel is my favorite AR-15 chambering for most purposes, but my state hunting regs convinced me to try a .350 pistol upper. I did have some problems getting reliable cycling because I used an adjustable gas block, but I also got a deer at 300 yards with the XP. Looking forward to trying some subsonic and an Underwood load with Lehigh bullets if they make one. I’m not a talented enough reloader to think I want to try that... yet.
Thanks for the notes. I've heard lots of good reports on the Win XP.
Tumbling is a very bad idea for a hunting round. It allows the projectile to vear off course shortly after impact, especially at high velocity impacts on large deer at quartering angles. Twist rate needs to be fast enough to maintain stability.
Do you ever make hunting videos?
I've shot a couple, but they're not that great. I have some new cameras that should help out a lot.
The Social Regressive sweet I’d love to watch them
How well does 9mm bullets work out with the rifle pressure
So far, so good. I haven't had any bullets fail on me yet.
Probably a good brush gun out to a max of 200 yards. Especially good for hogs except for current magazine capacity limitations.
That's how I feel about it, too.
Would love to see handloads of federal 147 and 158 grain hydrashok and also speer gold dot 147 grain and hot cor 180 grain.
Can you put the g9 external hollow point 9mm on the 350 ? And if so I’d love to see you test it.
I’m in an ARphobic state so I’m glad you touched on bolt guns.
Still plenty of options for you! Savage makes the axis 2, 110 apex hunter and hog hunter in 350L
Mossberg has a patriot offering, Remington has a 700 available in 350
And of course winchester has their xpr
Thompson center even offers a compass in this round. Plenty of bolt gun offerings for anti freedom states
@@jonquirk9582 I have a a patriot. It’s surgically accurate. I had spoken to Henry a year ago or so and they said lots of requests in the single shot so they now sell them. I mentioned that making it a switch barrel would be great. Also I requested (through their email as advised) a lever version.
@@blaws6684 I want to see a marin 336 in 350L come out. That would be sweet for us southeastern Michigan hunters who can't use 30-30.
I'm looking at a savage 110 apex hunter in 350 for myself
Any chance to try Hornady 165 ftx at distance I am hand loading them and they are devastating at 100 or less yards I would love to see a gel test out to 200 wish I had gel to try it out.
Glad to hear that .350 is turing out to be a great cartridge. I want to build a Retro style AR in .350 but the barrels only run carbine gas which is kinda disappointing. Great video!
If you go with a custom barrel maker you might be able to get a different gas configuration. You'll certainly want nothing longer than carbine length. There's a guy that actually recommends pairing a pistol-length gas system with an adjustable gas block so that he can adjust for subsonics and supersonics.
@@SocialRegressive Faxon actually makes a .350 barrel at 20 inch. Just have to find a Low-Pro gas block that will fit under an A1 handguard!
I built my AR350 using a Wilson Combat barrel. Sucks can’t find ammo.
I got a YUGE hog with my smoke pole using 75 GR. of Pyrodex select and a 385 GR. Hornady Great Plains hollow point bullet. I shot about 3 in behind the front shoulder and let the air out of him, he did not take one step. Heavy animal.
When you find the perfect round for hog hunting share with a video!
Perfect round for hogs is 170 grain 7mm rem mag. Poison. Absolute poison. They just tip over
I knocked the snot outta a big boar in a swamp down in Georgia with my 350, shot him at like 150 yards and just flattened him.
Guy with us put 3 round of 7mm-08 into a hog and it walked away like nothing happened so.....big bullet going slower seems to be the ticket
Please check those pistol projectiles at closer ranges also. Very often when pushed too fast the don't perform well.
I may do just that. They might go off like varmint bullets.
I have a lot of guns but, no AR’s. I’m hearing great stuff on the 350 Legend round, what company’s should I look at for my 350 Legend AR? I want budget and quality lol.
I'm no expert but I held a ruger the other day and seemed like a great quality rifle. I'm with you and doing homework. One pretty neat thing I found was after u spend about a thousand on the first rifle that u can just buy $350 uppers for about 10 different calibers barring magazines and blocks to make them fit in the mag well. So basically for another $350 you can have a 223 and it takes like 3 minutes to pull and reinsert a couple pins.
223 is most popular by far but I wanted to look at something that was more fun to run at the range cause that 223 has little kick and less impact down range. Plus I'm a 9mm fan and if u can reload u only need one bullet for both. I'm about sold but I'd like to see 30rd mags.
Edit: u can buy 30rd mags for 350 legend. Just get pangs and use a file to grind down the folowers on the sides of the mags. Tried it just for fun on a new $10 pmag and it fit 28 rounds of 350 in a 223 mag. U can find the video on yt.
Karver Keith go look at pof minutemen 350 legend which is a ar15 style.
Neil Gottfried Thank you, ill do that! #2A 👊🏼
You should try the Barnes 170Gr Triple Shock Hollow points.
If anyone is looking for alternative magazines the 35 round 5.56 Torkmags work flawlessly because the mags dont have the ribs in them like most 5.56 mags and are pretty durable. I load mine to 20 but its just an alternative though. I love this round so far and havent had any issues. I use the brn180 upper.
Thanks a lot, Konklus!
The 350 Legend is a great , new cartridge especially for first time and younger shooters but a thumper it's not. Basically it's a 357 Maximum with a 223 cartridge head and it gives up a lot after 150 yards. I bought a 350 upper and put it on my 450 Bushmaster lower, used it to teach my grandson how to shoot and took it hunting last season. Using Deer Season XP I hit a big doe at around 90 yards right behind the front leg, a nice double lung shot and had to track that doe for quite a while. With my 450 Bushmaster I've never had a deer take more than 3 steps with most just buckling their knees DRT. The 450 is a thumper, change your barrel and the bolt head which takes around a minute and go hunting with your stock mags. A 20 rounder holds 5 rounds for hunting and a 30 holds 9. Both are a reloaders dream for the reasons you stated but in my experience a 125-150 yard shot on game is about it and for hogs getting through that gristle plate will be a challenge for a clean kill. IMHO the 350 Legend is a legend invented, ok for the recoil sensitive or states with cartridge restrictions but needs a little more horsepower.
Good notes. 450 Bushmaster's energy is hard to beat. What ammo do you prefer?
@@SocialRegressive I'm a handloader and have shot Hornady Brown Box and Black. Just the same ammo but the Black uses a .005 longer case because of a screw up with the original trimming spec. I've also shot the Federal 300gr. loads for woods hunting here in Northern NY with my AR. That's about it for that platform. My handloads pretty much mirror the factory stuff for an AR. I bought a Ruger American in 450 and really stepped things up. My favorite load is big charges of Ramshot Enforcer pushing a Hornady 225gr. FTX bullet up to 2600fps. No pressure signs, cloverleafs 5 rounds at 100 and drops only 6" @ 250 yards when sighted in at 100. The bolt gun really lets you enjoy the full ability of the 450, kind of like a light bullet 45/70. Just not for the recoil shy.
Awasome break down
thanks for getting back to me after i asked about 9mm 147 xtps in the 350 scout rifle! i'd still like to know whatever happened to the idea of 10 bucks for a box of fmj. i knew that was all winchester hyoe when they floated that price balloon to get people onboard with 350 legend. glad i stockpiled primers and powder when Hillary's campaign went bust!!
Yeah, I saw those prices at Walmart for a short while. Then Biden. *sigh*
I've seen a 556 mag turned like a zombie from the Umbrella Corporation!! 5.56 mag turne.. 350 Legend mag!! Check it out and for heavens sake show us some hog huntin'!!! Great Video
so I tried it and it seemed to have worked.. What are your thoughts on that post? 556 to 30 rnd 350.. work or not?
Ok, now do the 300 Ham’r for comparison. It’s now SAAMI approved!
I hadn't heard! That would be a really cool comparison.
The Social Regressive I think you be impressed
300 Ham'r wouldn't be my choice, I'd try out .45 Raptor and possibly. 475 Bishop.
I can say the .45 Raptor is much more efficient than 300 Ham'r. I have tried the bishop yet though.
@@williamster2015 The Rapter requires an AR-10 platform. I have one in 6.5 CM. It's a pig! The upper with scope weighs 7 1/2 lbs, That's the TOTAL weight of my Hamr including the scope!!!! The Hamr is a better 30-30 which was it's original design. A new bullet by Speer makes it a 300 yard gun out of a 16 1/2" barrel! That's something that neither the 30-30 or the 350 legend can accomplish.
Head space is from the mouth of the cartridge be dam careful on the crimp!!!
have you tried cast 9mm bullets like Blue or Black bullets? is that a thing? will cast handle the pressure?
Check out Loads of Bacon on the Reloaders Network. He powder- coats cast bullets for rounds just like this.
A little late to the game here but have you shot any of the Choice Ammunition 350 L ammo? They’re advertised (and priced) as ‘hand loads’ but I haven’t seen any reviews of or data on them.
No, I haven't, but I'm glad folks are selling boutique rounds. Best of luck to them!