Why Young Women Are More Woke
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- This is a clip from tomorrow's podcast with Eric Kaufmann. In it, he and Dr. Peterson discuss the current definition of "woke" and why young women tend to align themselves with this ideology.
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Being a woke woman is like being member of a club where you are always right and you have seemingly unlimited support by your peers. Support that manifests as social lynching and cancelling of people who threaten their cult.
GSR -- gossiping, shaming, rallying + seemingly endless empathy and oxytocin
Insert "white" into that descriptor, and your comment will be spot on.
and it seems so silly and even non-threatening at first... but it's been systematically, and actively destroying the vulnerable, generous Anglosphere for fifty years and at an accelerated rate for ten straight years, which not only threatens to annihilate the fruits of the Enlightenment and classical liberal democracies, but also engulf the world in eternal totalitarianism, when whatever replaces the Balkanized West/Global North is inevitably worse (1984 or CCP.) This would be a world where freedom of speech doesn't exist, the scientific method is curated by neomarxists, property rights are subject to the state's fluid interpretation, mobs are even stronger and more numerous than they already are, all economies are centralized by impenetrable oligarchies, which devolve into mercantilist policies. The craziest thing isn't that these radical leftists exist, or even seemingly sprung up out of the woodwork when Trump was elected, but that the MODERATE LEFT COMPLETELY EVAPORATED *O V E R N I G H T* on election night in November 2016. Imagine if any more moderate sphere just disappear like that. What will we be left with? As someone who was raised on the moderate left and was a proud liberal until 2016 when I saw radical leftists strut into court and sit on the throne UNCONTESTED due to COWARDICE, which was exhibit A and exhibit B was twisting all of the left's positions into a sort of reverse-McCarthyism. Hundreds of years of moral progressive ideology erased in what feels like was less than a month. I would be more sad if I wasn't honestly terrified of what happened. I'm not scared of radical leftist, but I am scared by how fast literally TENS OF MILLIONS OF LIBERALS across the anglosphere just suddenly decided they were going to cede their morality, ideology and history to a bunch of postmodernist deconstructionist mobs.
@jbtechcon7434 Open your eyes, remove the race lenses and look around. Wokeness has a globallist agenda, it's not ethnically limited, quite the contrary.
@@jbtechcon7434 Being white is definitely not a prerequisite when it comes to being woke...
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy." - George Orwell, 1984
Which makes me think Eric’s theory is closest to the truth than Jordan’s one. I don’t think it’s biological I think women will just team up with the strongest narrative of the moment no matter what it is
@@marteumar8429 If men aren't doing this at the same rates, then it IS biological. What else does this difference arise from?
@@marteumar8429 If it's not biological, why is it expressly female?
@@marteumar8429 You're point is affirming that the behavior is biological.
In context within the book Winston was wrong. He later finds out Julia is just as critical of IngSoc as he is. Then they screw a ton before eventually O'Brian sniffs them out by pretending to be against the party as well. Which I think is what is a more demonstrable plot point. O'Brian was totally full of it he was like hey Julia and Winston I'm WOKE and then Winston and Julia were like oh wow we trust you completely then as we are also WOKE AF
Dated a girl who was in college for 6 years and it was hell. Every time anything bad was mentioned she would blame the “patriarchy” it was exhausting and she didn’t even know what she was talking about, she would just spit out these talking points. She thought the Supreme Court was all white men until I had to pull up all of them on their website and show the 4 women on a 9 person Supreme Court. This is just one example of the ignorance I dealt with. She told me about all her professors and them teaching her about all white people being subconsciously racist and that black people could not be racist. It’s insanity, we have an indoctrinated problem from our professors and teachers that needs to be stopped
i can only imagine that you put up with her for a very good reason?
97% of Harvard faculties are liberals - what do we expect?
She must've had the looks of a supermodel with a brain like that.
@@markwoods1530There could be only one reason.
Please cut this guy some slack. Relationships are multifaceted.
The ideology didn’t creep in, teachers and professors imbued it from elementary school to college.
Yes, just because they missed it doesn't mean it wasn't there in the 1990s
I graduated from h/s in 2004 and that’s when the gentleman in the video said it really started showing up in 18-34 y/o’s, that they were more progressive. And man, my mindset leaving h/s was awful. It took the Lord and constantly renewing my mind to be transformed over time and praise God I was. I grew up in a conservative family but the school’s influence from elementary and on took over, because of the lack of participation from my parents. We are here because parents stepped back from taking charge of their kids schooling many many years ago…
Also, ideology doesn't just float in the air, like microbes, it has its "carriers" (or believers)...
@@ValerieMajorspot on.
As a teacher if I may say while SOME are woke the problems come predominantly from the school board and not teachers. Most school boards are made of activists and Karens who have never been in a classroom and yet feel that they can make the rules for us.
Because they don't think independently and are easily influenced by others. My Dad was always telling me to "THINK!", "FOCUS!", and to not be influenced by others - actions have consequences.
Mine said similar words "Don't be a follower, be a leader." Too many people will go along to get along. It took me a long time to leave the follow group and enter the leader group. You have an excellent parent.
If enough people nearby said the sky was green, they would believe absolutely that the sky was green.
@@nschlaakFather. She has an excellent father. Why did you choose to dance around that word like that?
Exactly
I completely agree. They remind me of the Borg (Star Trek Next Generation). No independent thinking. They are part of the whole. Independent thinking is frowned upon.
Idealism over realism is a big problem right now.
=> Facts before morals
@AnneDeo-uu9nb Only because "truth" is a subjective reality, whereas science is about discovering the inescapable objective reality (i.e., facts). Read the first chapter of "Sapiens" by Harari.
@AnneDeo-uu9nbJust another version of flat earth believer. Bet you think you can fly if you identify as a bird LMAO
@@sandb1867like ol Tyson said, everybody’s think their shet’s gonna work till they get punched.
@@sandb1867 science can not explain or give reason everything happened, happening in this world. It is limited. Science is human way of understanding of things. And it can not explain human nature.
My girls went to a Canadian Ivy league University, they were not taught, nor allowed to think. As if they wished a decent grade they had to show they believed the woke agenda, and as Breath requirements classes were also required to graduate. These political classes were masked as necessary and the more essays written, the gap widened between myself and them. Now they have no contact with me as I am the Problem, as their mother I am more conservative and every Ism and Istic they could label me, they did. I loved them through this, and realize now it wasn’t another phase. Now I wish I had never sent them to this indoctrination institution.
I am so sorry that this has happened to you. I attended an American Ivy League university from 2016 - 2020. It was one of the biggest mistakes I ever made in my life. A few of the classes were extremely woke but most stayed on their subject matter. After 2020 and the heist of the 2020 election the woke movement exploded. The Left became completely emboldened. I cannot and will not use my degree. I will not have people associate me with the insanity and cancel culture that is occurring. Give your children time. They will likely mature and reason out of this as will the world. This is a passing trend. The corporations are losing money over it. Don't lose hope and hold your ground.
Praying for you. As previous commenter said, hopefully they come around. It took me 25 years to truly love my mother with my whole heart.
What a terrible scenario. The socialists always need to undermine the nuclear family and the bonds within it to push their agenda. Both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union encouraged children to snitch on their parents.
We've got to figure out how to bring back religion and reject socialism and cultural Marxism in our society.
People naturally have faith in a system of some kind. If they don't have religion, they will create an epistemological structure out of the dumbest things in the world.....like the utterly ridiculous idea of anthropogenic climate change.
If you don’t mind sharing (I also understand if you don’t for privacy’s sake), which Ivy League school was this?
It starts with an 'H'.
Women look upon themselves as morally superiour, defend the weakest etc etc. But in reality I remmember back at school when the largest bullies were actually the girls, not physically but mentally, boys could be rough and argue with each others but the next day it was forgotten. Not so with women, one argument and they would hold grudges more or less forever, and their methods was truly evil.
Years ago my sister got in trouble with her teacher (Woke hadn't been coined as a term but it was around already) by mentioning her older twin brothers (I was one) would fight like wildcats but twenty minutes later we were best buds again. Moreover we would always back each other up, period. Girls on the other hand would be best friends but if they ever fought that was over forever. Moreover they would backstab each other as naturally as we would stand behind each other right or wrong.
Why don't we stop making up fairy tales about women and blaming them for everything? These overly simplified stereotypes aren't helping anything. Sad Jordan Peterson is hopping on the bandwagon and making it worse. All the conservatives I used to respect turned so stupid (but I'm just going to "go along with the norm" and agree with them, right?)
The funny thing is when I was a young teen i had a moral superiority complex thinking i was better then others. And the truth is I often hurt the weak and innocent due to it while thinking I was the good guy. i regretted it all my life that I was petty, judgemental and rejected kayla for stupid reasons. I committed long ago to be better. Only to find out that the majority of women are exactly like I was as a teenager, except most of them never grow out of it.
It is just one of lifes many ironies....
and yes women can be unfathomably evil. there is a reason why the saying exists hell hath no fury like a women scorned.
@@lunalee3021 They are valid and common anecdotes. It is not necessary to believe them, everyone can search among those they know and the same trend will be verified in female group behavior.
@@rodtack8420 Stop lumping us in with your own issues. Weirdo
WOKE:(adj) A state of awareness achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything but their own behavior.
Suffragettes
That was perfect
@@brianbrice1250 This definition can be flipped to many who critizise woke, for example those who rage against "woke" comic books etc.
Or am I wrong?
Some please explain how this isn't the definition of narcissism...? Just asking
@solidstehl9546 Sure, narcissism already has a definition, go look it up before continuing to use the word as your go-to buzzword for a lack of vocabulary.
Nobody who whines about the rights of "indigenous people" is ever concerned about the indigenous people of Europe and the UK.
It's like dealing with blacks. There's ALWAYS some injustice they will interject, to get ANY advantage.
Weather it be financial, social.
IT'S ALL BAD FAITH ARGUMENTS.
And who were these people?
The record shows that only the Neanderthal were native to Europe. Homo Sapiens arrived from Africa and displaced the Neandertal because they were smarter and better hunters.
@@frequentlycynical642 I see, so you would see the native tribes of Europe replaced by African invaders on behalf of an extinct species? And the Neanderthal were not native to Europe, they were just the first wave of immigrants. For that matter, the native tribes everywhere other than Africa were just the first wave of immigrants.
@@condew6103 As I asked, who exactly was there before the Neanderthals?
Did you ever see the Solutrean hypothesis? That theory has been shut down.
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My wife took an English class in college where she was required to write why certain things were bad, without being asked if they were bad. You'd expect this from kindergarten, not college.
I had a similarly framed class assignment once, and simply instead wrote about how the premise was false. got an A.
@@SoloRenegade Nice! That's a gamble for sure, but a welcome one!
@@SkywalkerOne1977 not a gamble at all. I know how the college system works, and how to fight back. Logic, facts, and math. They can't refute science. Once college I was at almost lost accredidation becasue of a class I was in and the professor went too far and we pushed back. Professor was banned from teaching that class for a few years.
just have to know the rules, understand science, math, logic, and reason, and remind the college what their purpose in life is. If they earn a bad reputation with employers, students wont enroll.
@@SoloRenegade It's a relief to hear that your experience with colleges is that they "can't refute science". Seems like that could change at any moment with celebrity scientists being illogical and irrational these days.
@@ashchaya7676 Science works, if you know how to use it properly. you have to understand the psychology of teh people you're up against as well, and know how to tailor your arguments to win against them.
It can be done, it's just that most people don't know how to do it unfortunately.
I earned a number of nicknames during my time in the military. Two of those nicknames were, "Data", and "Spock", from Star Trek, because of how logical and precise and analytical I am. I've also had two lawyers try to hire me over the years as well because they were so impressed with my argumentative skills.
Sometimes it pays to be hyper logical and precise.
I am a brown latino male and virtually every white girl who I had to interact with at university confided to me that they "hate white people". I left confused and then suspected that these same women would be hating other races if they were in Nazi germany. It is natural to love your own but they see it as all or nothing. Just because the Japanese love their kind and culture does not mean they have genocidal tendencies towards others without provocation. In any case, as terrible as the holocaust was, I find it far more disturbing to hate your own than to hate out-groups IF you are going to hate anyone.
You clearly don't know the history of Japanese. Ask the Koreans how they feel about the murder and imposed name changes and such. Please know your history before you say things like that.
The Japanese were murderous violent people who subjigated both the Koreans and Chinese with violence and cultural decimation. Find another example cause this one shows your ignorance.
@@tallspicy His point still stands man. While it's certainly true that the Japanese military committed atrocities in the name of ethno-nationalism during WW2, that doesn't contradict the assertion that national pride =/= militant ethnic superiority. Besides, if the Japanese were still this way, then Johnny Somali wouldn't be doing so well at this moment.
You sound like someone who has no idea what they are talking about. The Japanese were murderous amongst themselves and towards others for hundreds of years. Hundreds. It makes the commentary mean nothing and undermines the point.
I’m white and never hated myself or anyone white. Most I know don’t hate white people it’s usually liberals that have a problem with white people simply bc they are white
Identifying as a victim allows you to absolve yourself of the consequences of your actions. This makes life a lot easier in a superficial way. One problem with this is that you just never change or grow, but if you assume you are perfect anyway then that's not a problem (in their minds).
It's harder to realize the truth when the lies flatter your ego, much easier to call bullshit when the lie is a condemnation of your own humanity; so in the defense of women, the reason why young men are more aware than they are is because we had to develop our awareness because our nature as masculine beings has been under constant attack since early childhood.
This is so on the money👌
That's the "under dog" narrative.
"The under dog is morally right in their perceived self defense against their enemy"
You don't even see the irony of what you wrote here of men playing victim to exactly what every other group has actually experienced for years. Poor things, they have to evolve and work just like the rest of us.
@@tallspicy ??? what?
They are so depressed too that’s what really bothers me. It’s like they don’t even know what love is
And not only young girls, many of my woke girl friends are past their 40's, unmarried, childless, living with cats/dogs. I trully believe wokeness is the expression of their resentment.
How do you want them to know what love is when wokeism is against any form of true love as it would imply any kind of implication, which they're completely against, just watch the number of women nowadays, especially younger than 25, who had 20 times more partners than their past 5 generations together
They have been trained to focus on the self or on larger, ideological issues, rather than focusing people around them--which is traditionally women's jobs as mothers or as social leaders within neighbourhoods and communities (rather than the larger political fabric that men tended to inhabit traditionally). As such, they have been taught to be both unloving and unlovable. And therefore, they are miserable but largely incapable of ever being able to put their finger on WHY.
@@KatallinaVT very well said! thank you for this. Ive been starting to think the same thing and often think at great lengths to the psychology of these sorts of things because its one of the few places I enjoy asking the question of "why" when so many whys are unknown or unhelpful. Them not seeking answers may be the saddest part.
You BELIEVE in depression? (A fake illness made up by big pharma to sell meds). That is the first problem here. 2nd you sound like a bitter man-enist who blames everything in society on women.
The big issue is that for the majority of women, how they 'feel' is more important than logic and facts.
Tru, and all the talk about "my truth" as you can bend reality.
Thats why they shouldnt vote
As an atheist, I would say the same is true for religious people as well. Maybe also explains why most religious people are women.
We men do the same, we can be very contrarian when we get a feeling that something is off.
I am pretty sure if you are honest with yourself you will realise more than often you decide on feelings more than you would like to accept. We grew up in a world where we got used to men doing this and for better or worse we have learnt to deal with these flaws in men. Now women are regaining power and guess what they can also be problematic, it’s time for all of us to be compassionate and learn the best way to communicate with each other now that the power dynamics have changed and will keep on changing
This is such an oversimplification of the fact that women are more sensitive (physically i.e more tastebuds, can see more colors, and psychologically more aware of emotions), which does not mean they put necessarily put emotions over logic. These half-truth stereotypes aren't helping the culture war and are just making it worse.
I'm a 30 year old Australian female and most of my female friends are "woke" and none of my male friends are. I avoid talking politics with my girl friends, that's for sure 😂
Do they take jokes? I have a male friend who's woke and I roast him every now and then, but in a funny way. He tries to get it back at me, but Woke people tend to just be naive :)
@@Just_a_Lad I tell my woke friends they have unicorns flying out of their asses! They are ridiculous! They tend to be scattered and impulsive and unreliable. I tend to hang out more with my older friends because they are organized and sensible for sure.
@@ZFern9390 woke people might grow up ... eventually
Ditch your female friends miss, and social media. From US veteran who has been in war. Don't subjucate yourself to that. At least you were willing to admit that. That takes guts. You were right on your assumption. Stick with it ma'am. You will succeed that way with men. Delete all your social media. It's no good
25 year old Australian male in the middle of Sydney. I grew up surrounded by woke women, and I always spoke my mind, which caused a lot of conflict. In the end, most of them actually agree with me now. If you talk to them rationally and slowly introduce ideas, they will likely lose the wokeness.
"ideology tells you who to be compassionate to" - there's a profound statement there
That one hurts!!
Compassion is nice, but it is also a double edged sword. Compassion might cause you to feed a man over and over again because they are hungry. But the only way to truly help that man is to teach him to feed himself!!! That is the bigger difference between true Liberalism and Wokeness.
Feeding the man over and over again creates a reliance, thereby giving power over that person....
maybe compassion in some sort of vaccuum that excludes all other virtues, like discernment and wisdom. If you add in more virtues along with compassion then you often come up with a much better solution. Bring lunch on your fishing trip to teach the person how to fish, and in the meantime, share your lunch.
Indeed…someone tell that to the religious fundamentalists on the right too though💁🏻♂️
@@Jerbraska Lumping everyone into a groups. You sound like a liberal trying to understand things that are above your ability. There are good church people and bad church people. And just about every color in between. You have people that do great things, and you have charlatans.
Heck, I can't even go to a service at a church and find many groups that agree fundamentally with each other on most subjects. No one says you have to go to any church, but bad mouthing people you don't know makes you look pretty sad and desperate......
IMO, the turn started in the 90's, where male teachers and admin in the public school system were lost, for whatever reason. Boys acted like boys and the women in charge couldn't handle them so, they started labeling boys as hyper-active thus, started medicating them to comply. This has now destroyed masculinity for two, full generations.
My son was an outgoing, rambunctious 8 year-old and that is exactly what they did to him. Unfortunately, it caused him to live the next 17 years with Grand Maul seizures until his death at 25. He was a beautiful boy that women destroyed.
@73challenger5031 : Sorry to hear about your boy. My condolences, FWIW.
As part of that group, even though I am not medicated or anything. My dad was once brought to school to have a talk with the teachers and principal. They said xyz and thought I was in the wrong.
My dad, on the drive home asked me "did you think what you did was wrong?"
As I think at the time I was mostly minding my own business and just happened to stumble into a situation where another kid was now threatening me.
I told him "I didn't really do anything, I may have said something."
He then replied: "do you believe you did the right thing?"
I replied "Yes. I didn't do anything, I just like to mind my own business most of the time."
He replied "yep, I figured you were like that. I'm not going to punish you for something that you didn't do, or someone else is trying to frame you."
The other kid was trying to bully and pin it on me for by telling the school. My dad could have been harsh. Instead, he heard me out and he trusted my judgment if another was being the aggrivator.
The feminization of the classroom is a problem. Boys need to move! They need to tinker, rough house, have deep discussions, and be allowed to be themselves within reason.
More like 2004 I was a junior when this Alphabet community stuff started getting pushed
So you're blaming women because your son was born with an illness...
The only thing more impressive than a young woman's devotion to an ideology is the speed at which she will forget she ever adhered to its tenets the second a more advantageous alternative is offered!
Correct!
"Misplaced maternal instincts" helps to explain it all. Once these women would have been looking after babies and small children and using up the reservoir of compassion and care within them naturally and not wasting it on Marxist-based malicious nonsense.
hits the nail on the head
That is one aspect of this conversation, and the other aspect is that w will more readily accept and support the prevalent norm in society.
It's that combined with being easily manipulated (so, stupid in short). Even back in the garden of Eden, Eve was manipulated into eating the apple.
Yep!
The best way you can make women advocate for Mass Migration is to show pictures of brown boys crying.
Then seeing instead a massive amount of males, in reproductive age, and ready to fight, at best makes them neutral, at worst it presents the ultimate shit test they can throw at you.
And now, the cheery on top.
The best to make women NOT advocate for Mass Migration is to show pictures of young, pretty refugee women, of reproductive age, *actually* fleeing from war. They will fight for those women to stay at the border.
If you understand that, you understand everything that happened in the last 20 years.
I think social media plays a large role. Young people are easily influenced by those around them. It used to be that you were just influenced by your immediate family and peers, which could be both a good and a bad thing, but now young people are susceptible to a sea of misinformation and sophistry. I don’t think it’s an accident that wokeism took off around 2013, the year smartphones became mainstream. My sister has become somewhat more left-leaning because of the environment she’s in on TikTok. Women also tend to be more agreeable, so they are more easily influenced than men.
This explains to me why some young ladies barely wear any clothes at the gym.
Oh boy, I do hope you see the irony of posting that on a jordan peterson video.
Why it was stupid to lower the voting age to 18. They go with the crowd and are influenced by the daftest things.
Well said.
People are in general are incredibly vulnerable to social pressure, this trait is exceptionally prominent in your teens. Human development research shows that teens care almost exclusively what their peers think of them, combine this with parasocial relationships and marketing/messaging targeting particular demographics algorithmically (sex/race/religion/sexual orientation) and you get an extra nasty cocktail that results in viral cults. You're correct it isn't a coincidence smartphones accelerated the spread, and it's no coincidence that patient zero was California. Home to both Hollywood and Silicon Valley. It's the modern day jewish diaspora spreading christianity by founding churches in every city. Except this time the diaspora is in wireless airwaves, beaming Jesus and his cult following right into a little church in your pocket.
Why women tend to support the prevailing ideology: can it also be their preference for following the fashions or fads of their times? To be joiners? To downplay their critical thoughts in exchange for acceptance into the group?
I wouldn't call the things they support prevailing in a lot of cases, unless you're talking about a very specific vocal minority. Girls are the ones who support some of the most bizarre and obscure causes I've ever seen. What a ridiculous overly simplified take.
What critical thought?
I'm a Gen Z woman and not woke. I know my limits. I like being stronger than I think I am which makes me feel good. I want to become independent because I'm too shy to ask for help.
You appear entirely normal and well balanced, and thank heaven for that, Joanne.
I’m a woman and accepted long ago that other girls were never going to accept me. I was always bullied in school and rejected by most other girls my age. Even now most of my opinions make me too “prickly” to be friends with most other women. I’m blunt and honest, I think for myself , I don’t go with whatever the trend or popular opinion is, so for those reasons I can’t get along well with them. I think some women desperately want to be accepted so they just go along with things, they hate feeling rejected.
Ditto ‼️
same here. I'm rarely in a large group of women, but when I am there isn't a diversity of opinion. They tend to go along with the leader of the group
I have had a similar experience throughout life. I'm the odd chick. I wear what I like and get things done my own way. I don't like confrontation so- sooner than later- I quietly slink away from the female relationships I do end up in. It's especially hard in a workplace setting- I stay well away from women unless they are as odd as I.
blunt and honest..... maybe you're a transgender man!😂😉👍🏻
100 💯 percent correct
I think much of this today has to be rooted in people looking for absolution from their own personal flaws and offenses. "Hey, it's okay if you're rude, lazy, ignorant, cruel, hateful, callous, capricious, or irrational. You're amazing, and you don't need to change a thing. All of your flaws come from the inherent flaws in our society, and the problems in your life are not your responsibility." I cringe at that idea, but to many it must be like someone offering them a mug of hot cocoa with extra marshmallows.
But why is it OK to present male role models that are rude, lazy, ignorant, cruel, hateful, callous, capricious, or irrational, and still believe they are amazing, and 100% entitled to submissive wife and children, whom they can neglect? Just check wide-spread pop-culture and Tic Toc. Also check how little adult men protect society from such influencers.
@DNA350ppm I think if you'll read my comment again, you'll find I wasn't excusing men from anything, my friend. I'm no Andrew Tate fan, and I find just about every "influencer" distasteful. I don't believe anyone is entitled to anything, which is why I find the "none of my mistakes are my fault" narrative so poisonous. Everyone, regardless of what is between their legs, needs to accept responsibility for their mistakes, learn that blaming any demographic for the shortcomings of their life is ignorant and pathetic, and become productive members of a respectful society. They need to set a higher bar for people around them through their personal behavior and actions, rather than using the low bar as an excuse for being, frankly, weak losers.
@@keenanluciani5577 I agree! Thanks for your clarification!
@@DNA350ppm I have to say, I'm seeing a growing number of men on the right, the ones who think they're "red-pilled" who think exactly like this. And I think a lot of it IS Andrew Tate. There's a split in men on the right, it's like factions. There's the Jordan Peterson faction and the Andrew Tate faction. It's the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction. And probably an IQ issue, too, of course.
and the root cause of this isn't communism like JP thinks. It's in western culture's obsession with freedom. Freedom will necessarily devolve into the freedom to be/do all of those things you listed.
The more “equality” and power women achieve, the less happy and more aggressive they become. My opinion.
but you're right!
It’s a fact backed by research and data.
My ex claims she is finally living the life she always wanted. Nothing I ever heard about, but sure.
She's also more frustrated with complete strangers than I have ever seen her in my life. She's brainwashed.
Care to explain why you think that?
@@gabe1277 The genders are supposed to compliment each other. The closer to being men women are, the more out of sync with nature they are. Same thing with men being feminine. It’s not a matter of legal equal rights. It’s about societal and cultural gender norms. Gender roles to a point, are a product of biology, not a social construct. It shouldn’t take a social science study to figure out that women aren’t fulfilled in the workforce and men aren’t built to have women lead them. Let’s also be honest that women don’t want that at all.
Misplaced maternal instinct went off in my head like a lightbulb, it makes so much sense. It basically explains everything
Why are they for abortion tho?
@jpespinosa4539 because they're allergic to responsibility and accountability, how the hell are they're going to raise a child lol
@@jpespinosa4539 They don't view an embryo as a sapient creature, just a "clump of cells." That, and they want to be able to whore around.
@@jpespinosa4539 The same for a fetus. Be it a week or 7 months into gestation. It doesn't matter to them. They view an unwanted baby as an intruder, a virus.
@@matheusjezini They same reason they think virginity is a concept created by a man to create a woman's worth. In reality, the woman tries to ignore what a hymen is and how more partners effect your oxytocin production for pair bonding. This also effects your care for family members, your children, and pets
He who is Compassionate to the Cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate
What?
@@danascully1248 read it again. It's a fact
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@@danascully1248 Try using the gray matter in your skull for once in your life.
@thefalsehero try not using an insult in every confrontation you create
As a middle aged female US Army veteran, I do not understand this frustration or hatred that the young women are having with men. I must be getting old. During my entire life, every man I’ve ever had to deal with in civilian or military life, all the fellas cared about was if I could do my part or job. I always got paid accordingly and advanced in my career based on my performance. I’ve never known a man who had the interest or even time to be “misogynistic “ . I just do not understand these younger women. Instead of bitching about inequality, I was raised to get after it and work my way to my goals. Just like the fellas have to.
Thank you for your service, friend 💛
As a older female (combat) veteran as well, applying one’s experiences to generalizations seems completely inaccurate. This problem is an escalation of social problems not dealt with and exploited by certain groups of our society for their personal political and economic agendas. On the back end of Postmodernism, and the erosion of moral values, younger generations have no solid ground to stand on and are easily manipulated. However, denying injustices, discrimination and violence against women is delusional. It is a complex problem but it is real. Recent scandals involving abuse against women and children, regardless of what is your source of news, support the reality that has garnered so much animosity from younger women. There is documented cases and policies put in place to deal with this social issue in both civilian and military settings. I can’t say that I am optimistic about improvements in the thinking of young women if there is no improvement about treatment of minorities. There many layers, socio economic, race, etc. Unfortunately, social media is an echo chamber of mostly half truths and a tool of distraction from weighty things and for the degradation of reasoning. Higher education has become a powerful cancer in many cases… just so many factors!
As a middle aged Romanian radiographer I can answer to some of topic. "Toxic patriarchy" is the motto. When I asked about "toxic matriarchy" or "human toxicity" WOKE goes feral. Just like the army, health have rules about discipline and teamwork. It's HARD work all the way. The young girls wants to cut corners because of WOKE or DEI. Different standard for the specials. All autocracy had this. It's sad that self mutilation is encouraged by the same people who think feminine and masculine are "social" constructs. Sexual perversions are encouraged (the game of pretending to be a fluffy pet is a sado-maso game) but sexual intimacy is banned and you will be cancelled.
They have an unhealthy distribution of hormones resulting in extreme amounts of personality trait neuroticism (sensitivity to negative emotion). Extreme amounts of fear over extended periods make them feel an overwhelming urge to try to gain power over their environment,. But because of their low testosterone levels they don't feel confident enough to compete/survive on an even playing field. They are basically terrified of men, especially rich men, and feel that they can't play fair in order to be safe from men.
Even if I can scientifically prove it and have the political power to change it. Should I? What if the solution is we have to start socially engineering people's hormonal balances?
That's your experience. Some of these women have unresolved trauma caused by men in their life or childhood and think every woman must have had this past so they become radical feminist seeking justice in places that don't need it.
Woke fatigue is becoming a real thing and I feel like I’m starting to see people unaffected by these folks trying to shame you for your beliefs.
It is generally in our (women's) nature to want to be compassionate and nurturing, which is a good and necessary thing, especially in the care of children. These woke women, however, are not tempering their emotions. They let their feelings run wild to the exclusion of reason and don't evaluate the consequences.
So grateful my mom made me read 1984.
Based mom!
For anybody willing to listen…f-mail influence is the issue, it is the common denominator.
W mom!
B A S E D !
Oh then you surely recognised some issues with it then, like how bad George Orwell was at writing women, and how he worshipped $ex for the whole theme of that book. It wasn't perfect.
I recently read 1984 and thought it interesting how the main character pointed out that it was the young women that towed the party line the most. Strange how this phenomenon isn’t new.
the worst prison guards in the concentration camps were the women. this was said by the prisoners themselves.
You didn’t read it too carefully did you? He turned out be wrong
@@swk862ssu4 Oh, right. Julia. I’d imagine she was the exception and not the norm. The main character was surprised when it turned out she despised the party.
@@swk862ssu4 that was 1 woman. wasnt it?
@@swk862ssu4 That's why he said women, and women of different ages; and didn't specifically say Julia.
I havent even watched the video yet and im gonna say … because it benefits them in every way. They get all the power in every single aspect of life. “Believe all women”, its always the mans fault. If men cheat they are evil , if women cheat its because the man wasnt giving her something in the relationship. If a woman isnt woke shes essentially fighting against all women who will attack her and gaining nothing from it. This is why its so rare. If a woman is woke she is living on easy mode , doesnt have to think, never has to take accountability, doesn’t have to improve herself because all problems are someone elses fault and they are always the victim. Women are social creatures and always have been. Men have power from physicality and status. Women have social power. Think of all the time even when its false, “me too” movement destroyed a mans life. Thats my ted talk. If a woman isnt woke she loses all social power in todays world. Really think about that considering thats the most powerful tool they have.
Thats right, "it benefits them in everyway"
Ill add: it benefits them in everyway when they are young/new to the theories and they can get away with it for a little while but the consequences catch up to them in the years to come...
Also its the popular ideology in the social circles they are engaged in.
Good point friend.
@eliteghost0001 said, "If a woman isn't woke she loses all social power in today's world."
I am a Gen-Z woman, and I see it a little differently than you do. Let me explain.
Woke people are professional victims. Just ask them.
However, you say a woman who is NOT woke loses her social power.
I'm not woke, and the only way I lose social power is if I choose to give it away. I realize there are groups who don't want to hear my opinion, either because I'm a woman, or because I'm not woke enough for them, or I don't fit whatever kind of group think they are into. I can wipe the dust off of my feet and move on. The paradox is we have to refuse to be professional victims and learn how to live free in an unfree world.
Why is it so hard for them to say young women are concerned with social status and develop their identity and self worth from it?
Motherhood changes political priorities. You go from protecting all these external groups to protecting your children.
20-40 year old single women are overwhelmingly liberal, and it's probably even higher for those who attended college.
Well said
Never would have thought about it like that, great comment!
Bingo! I believe that since young white women are having fewer children of their own these days, it leads to a misdirected protective instinct. If they did have their own children, they would see many of these so-called "marginalized" groups as threats.
Often they realize they need to protect their children FROM those external groups.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
every time I watch Peterson's video it's such a relief! like finally someone can put into words this thing that was in my head for a last couple months and turns out I'm not crazy I just could not articulate it well enough
I would posit that the university shift to female dominance in the early 2000s was directly related to increased enlistments after 9/11.
You make a good point. There was certainly a smaller cohort of men going into the colleges.
It started long before 2000.
I'm a female stoic and endorse this theory. Angela Merkel years ago was explaining her "no borders" policy for EU was due to her growing up in East Germany behind the wall. I remember thinking how silly and emotionally driven this was. Not well thought-out. The men all went along with this however.
Even Merkel had simps. 🤦♂️
@edwardx.winston5744
I am a man with very strong convictions but even I know not to rush someone holding a gun. I don't think it's a good idea to publicly challenge someone who has the power to point state violence in your direction.
Men follow because the West is largely feminized and gynocentric. Resisting institutions is what gets them in trouble, not resisting feminization.
She has not been the best president. She has enforced cancel culture.
The men were employees of the organisation she led. Men okay for the team or they’re dropped. Cancellation isn’t cultural is a systemic necessity. Hitler had followers whose job was to follow or die.
“Women tend to support the established moral order, while men tend to be contrarian.“ I think that is the most significant statement in this entire video, that is the truth.
that's exactly how the trans athletes debate happened, most women saw no problem, fought for it and now they're being kicked out of their own sports.
That just means women follow the ideology that is most popular at the moment.
@@MisfitShawn the real question is how did it become so popular?
Women support the established "order" whether it is moral or not. See Patriot Act, Obamacare, the War on Sniffles and the persecution of Donald Trump for examples if immoral and amoral order.
Fighting people who are making generalizations with more generalizations is incredibly unhelpful.
Just absolutely SLAMMED a liter of chocolate milk and like 6 scrambled eggs
Send it buddddd
I agree that "Woke" is all about certain racial minorities, sexual deviants, and radical women, but I don't agree that there is no ideology behind it from the "top-down." This preoccupation with these marginalized groups comes not from pity or sympathy with these groups in the hope of incorporating them into the mainstream of Western societies, but just the opposite. Dating back to Antonio Gramsci, Neo-Marxists have been put off with the working classes of various nations that cling to their religious and cultural traditions and become satisfied with higher wages and better working conditions offered by capitalism. In the 1960's, Herbert Marcuse focused in on these marginalized groups as a better conduit for destroying capitalism and Western Civilization since blacks and later Hispanics, homosexuals and other sexual deviants and radical women are so offensive to most European people that they will never be "bought off" by either business interests or by mainstream Europeans and so will never compromise their dedication to working with the far Left to radically transform Western societies into a Communist utopia.
These Marxists are not left liberals who seek to bring these groups into the mainstream. Otherwise they would sell out the Revolution just as the working class did. These Marxists and Postmodernists who accept their social agenda while claiming to reject any "meta-narrative," have taken over American universities, even seemingly conservative Christian colleges and seminaries. They have, since the 1990's, been indoctrinating students in the concerns of "injustices" (even though these same people reject natural law and Justice with a capital J) perpetrated against these groups of people and that has aroused the pity of many young people, especially women without their being aware of the philosophical origins of Critical Theory.
It is not a secret you can sell anything to women with the right marketing.
@AnneDeo-uu9nb I don’t think it’s exploiting..it’s not like you’re marketing cigarettes to kids. These are adult women, they should be able to make other decisions
@@awsambdaman”should”
@@awsambdaman history shows that women are easy to manipulate. women who can make good decisions are rare and most need men to make the decisions for them. its a hard pill to swallow but its a fact.
Don’t forget that the Nazis were men 😊
With the right tone
Female compassion is great in the home but it doesn't scale.
it's not that it doesn't scale, it's that it's a terrible thing to try to make a system out of.
Female compassion works within the rational framework that men create. Men provide for their family and discipline the kids, women provide love and nurturing. Men create laws and economic systems, women work in the charities.
It stops working when you try to turn the economic system itself into a charity.
@@zanido9073
In other words it doesn't scale.
Exactly. Women are Socialist because each child should get the same amount of love and food, etc. Apply that globally and we have free hotels for illegals who cause inflation.
@@Sako-85_308 Ha ha ha...... exactly right! Brilliant!!
So it doesn't scale but longer also this means patriarchy and civilization are synonymous
You almost lost me in the first couple minutes because I definitely have low verbal intelligence. 😂 Glad I stuck around; very good discussion.
2004 also saw the beginnings of social media like Facebook. I think social media has had a tremendous and devastating influence on young women and girls.
Then you learn that Facebook was actually the CIA's Lifelog remade with the silly story about Zuckerberg somehow inventing it. It has tremendous power to subvert and control.
Esp the ones prone to narcissism.
There was a big push for marriages to get divorced instead of staying together. I grew up hearing “kids are happy if their parents are happy”. Well, when marriages broke up then the fathers were legally removed from their children (moms almost all times get more custody time than fathers). So now you have children growing up without fathers. Boy became beta males since they didn’t have father figures to look up to and girls became deeply resented against men.
Father and mother families are the cure to the woke society we live in
@@gus333thats not a cure for them
Women raise children, men raise adults.
I would LOVE to see the percentage of transgenders that were raised by single women. Of course, we’ll never see these statistics.
One statistic that is easy to find is, a man raised by a single mother has somewhere around a 70% higher chance of ending up in jail.
@@gus333 I know plenty of extremely Woke women with loving fathers, how children are raised also matters. Yesterday I met a woman who is highly educated and has a loving father, while her sister has a family she's in her 30's and still single. Fatherlessness is an effect of Wokeism rather than its main cause.
It’s also to drive the money to the hands of the spender.
Its a lack of fathers and brothers. Small families, with no father in the home have lead to several generations of women who have never been checked emotionally. Their feelings are all that mattered growing up. Voila, wokism has taken hold.
I think this is a big part of it totally
A lot of homes are fatherless because the mother divorced the father and got custody of the kids. Women initiate about 80% of the divorces here in America.
The real problem is that when women stand up for themselves , small weak men feel threatened
@@user-fs5mp6jf9q 🤦🏼♂️
This theory sounds like it comes from a lack of sisters. No one in my family has ever been woke, and it's mostly girls.
well tbh, when the conservative thinking says “women are less logical, less capable, cannot be a leader/cant lead, aren’t rational/thinking beings,” or the thing that’s very common here “women cause the downfall of civilization, like what Eve did”, then it’s not really that hard to understand why they go the other side. As conservatives, we value giving them honesty about their faults and go the extreme. But we should also be careful about ourselves as we might fall into the thinking/sin of Adam, who not only shifted all the blame to Eve, but even blamed God for giving him Eve, never understanding that he had his own faults.
Women connect to the world and their surroundings differently.
Yes, many conservatives talk too much.
That does not mean that women are currently not being weaponized. They quite clearly are, and they quite clearly miss one very important clue about their "victory", and that is that it is cultivated by the exact men they think they stand against.
But they don't care. They should. At least the average ones and down. They will never be more than mouths to feed in their brave new world. So they won't last long.
Their only hope would therefore actually be in the former status quo.
Adam and eve were an alegory that had nothing to do with present times. I don`t understand why people still shakes their heads over this
Fair statement....and any rational male who desires that we continue to exist knows BOTH genders are necessary for that. Knows this has always been the case and knows that the current repulsion makes no sense.
Men made a mistake giving them far too much power, and that has to be rescinded, somehow in order to return to the balance that kept us going for millenia....
Female-run large organizations preceding the 1990's: convents, charities, schools, nursing facilities, orphanages, women's colleges...there were also several large corporations founded by/run by women, most notably in the fashion and cosmetics industries, but also magazines and other businesses. Perhaps it's worth looking at how those were run, as compared with modern female-run organizations.
Simple. More women care about pointless details and worry more about hurting feelings than telling someone a hard truth. They also get more of a rush from FEELING virtuous, even if it comes at the cost of someone else. If you really care about someone, you give them the hard truth, even if it risks your relationship with them because you care more about them than how it makes you feel to tell them the hard truth.
Because women are emotionally driven. That's why they're easily manipulated.
I tried that… it was lonely. You have to know them enough to know how to get them to listen. We are living in a mainstream cult… we are stuck dealing with these people. Maybe it’s important for your husband or wife to know the truth. But, even then, there’s a way of going about it.
the other commenting is exactly right. People aren't robots with zero emotions that only adhere to hard logic and reason. And as long as that's true there is a better and a worse way of getting someone to understand the truth/reality.
The problem with the "hard truths" is that the sort of people that want to tell them very rarely have any idea what the truth is and are simply disagreeing with the person they are trying to truth bomb.
@@julesbrunton1728I am sure up till 8 mos. ago the word ‘genocide’ meant the attempt to eradicate an entire people in an area and/ or civilization.
Now, we have large swaths of the left using that term to describe a moderate sized regional war which has taken place the lives of ~30000 ppl out of a group 7.5M ppl from the river to the sea. This yr Palestinian population in that area will almost certainly INCREASE.
No, facts don’t mean a thing to much of the left.
Been saying this for years. The biggest political division in the West currently is between Men and Women. This includes Japan, and South Korea.
I watched a feminist documentation about south Korea.
And I swear nothing those women Said made any sense.
Of course the reason for Low birth rates was systemic sexism.
Even though thr contrary is true, the more patriachal and unequal the society the more children were born and vice versa.
They talked about how women earned less and therefore ran higher risk of old age poverty.
What didn't make them worry at all about the future, were birthrates around 0,8 children per women and the younger Generation exponentially shrinking 60 ,percent every Generation.
They seemed to be completely unaware what that means for their futures.
That the nation will completely fall apart in two or three Generations and nothing will work properly
Not the biggest, but a symptom. The vaccine Nazis and worship of pharma products is the biggest threat. The milgram effect.
Perhaps it is engineered. Who is doing it?
@@hildegardvonbingen9092 5 to 10 years South Korean economy will collapse. Losing 30,000 people a month and accelerating.
@@Kolinahr1701 but it doesnt make any sense. the capitalists need cheap slave labourers
Our daughter started out by the age of 14 to advocate for the (at the time) LGBT-movement in a High School group. She then soon identified as ‚gender fluid‘ and finally graduated HS with her self chosen asexual first name with some sense of embarrassment. She didn’t want to reclaim her given name as the teachers and fellow students had supported her for nearly four years. Fast forward to today: She turned more conservative, dresses more feminine and embodies more a homemaker than her female elders. It sure helped her to move away from her childhood friends. Generally, despite of all her name calling, accusations of being bigots, homo- and transphobe, we always knew, it was a phase. To all parents out there: There is a good chance that you’ll be able to have a meaningful relationship with your child once the phase has run its course.
It might be compassion but it might primarily be wanting to avoid a confrontation. Women seem to want to keep harmony in the group regardless of the moral order, whereas men are more likely to be willing to engage in conflict. Many women might have no compassion for a person or group but they want to keep the peace anyway.
I have met more than one woman who was quite sure she knew better how to run my life than I did.
I've got a few in my family.
How many men have you met that are sure they know how to run a woman’s life better than her? I’ve met more men than women who have this affliction. Just my observation.
😂
I figure most women are like this. My mother insisted she run my life. I had to fight her on EVERYTHING. Ugh… narc moms are awful.
There is a Russian saying, which is hard to translate without lengthy explanations: "Некоторые люди - дуры".
The idea that you cant be in the wrong if you are in defense of someone or something is inherently female
I think it's just a logical fallacy.
Like claiming a sin is just part of being a certain gender.
@@monkey6207 Men and women are different, that supports different standards.
@@fatmonkey4716 You don't get away with that. "Men and women are different" has been used by redpills to dismiss an argument too many times. What does different mean? Not more sinful or less virtuous. Not less able to use logic. Not less able to use your brain. Not having less free will.
@@fatmonkey4716 "They are 'different'" has been used by redpillers to dismiss an argument too many times. You have to explain what this adjective means. I'll tell you what it doesn't: being less able to use logic (which most men can't, it's a subject you study), being able to reason, having free will and intellect, having certain virtues, avoiding sin. . .
And I'll tell you what can't be used as "evidence". Certain times in history where "most people vote a certain way" due to outside factors that may not have anything to do with biology. Because then we can all just point to Germany during World War II and make claims about men all day.
@@monkey6207 Women get bailed out of poor logic all the time because there is a higher standard of niceness applied to women. Noone cares if a man is shamed for using poor logic, but the same cannot be said of women. Therefore it is easy to see that men have to apply higher standards of logic than women.
Very profound and accurate description of woke; I've listened to many others describe it, and accurately too, but Eric's definition cuts thru to the basic architecture in a clear-cut way. Simple and spot on.
I had a woke professor who I criticized in a presentation I did in front of the class for a project (she was teaching powerpoint for a public speaking class and I had the audacity to think it was a waste of my time and the time of everyone else who was paying the 80,000/year tuition bill. My perspective is the power to impose the curriculum on students is in the hands of the professor therefore the right (and responsibility) to criticize it is in the hands of the students. So with powerpoint I presented on why powerpoint should not be used. I never saw someone more pissed off in my whole life. Full victim tantrum, accused me of sexism and bullying, it was wild. Tried to get me kicked out of class and failed for 6 credits. Total narcissist.
This victimhood ideology is insane. She could be pissed and angry, totally understandable, I was blunt and audacious. But I was in my right.
Unfortunately my daughter has fallen into this. I have no choice but to pray
Look she’ll most likely grow out of it, show her this video
@@chickentoucher55she's 47
She won't change until she hits rock bottom just being honest
🙏🏻😇⛪❤️🔥👑🕊️🕯️
Kick her out 😂
Perhaps Diversity Equity and Inclusion are the main personalities of a new religion which replaces The Father,
The Son, and The Holy Spirit.
I think there could be truth to that
Fuckin' A Dude.
@@Kolinahr1701 Watch your language young man.
Scary ! SCARY thought!
The new holy trinity of wokeism
Maybe I have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about, and maybe I'm misapplying certain ideas, but I think other things that Peterson himself has discussed in lectures and conversations past about the psychological differences between men and women are more than addquate to answer this question. At the very least, they're sufficiently adequate to arrive at a reasonably educated guess. I think the reason why the majority of women are "woke" is for much the same reasons why so many French women in WW2 embraced and shacked up with their Nazi conquerors. Women often pivot toward whatever is perceived to be the values and standards of the dominant power structure because women throughout most of history and still throughout certain parts of the world today physically depend upon men for protection from the violent and sometimes sexual aggression of other men, so following the herd by conforming to the dominant value structure that's in power is the best way to ensure a sense of psychological stability within one's social environment that women need in order to feel safe. Related is the fact that women are also more sensitive to external social pressure and fear of ostracization than men (which can be observed through the higher rates of mental illness and neuroticism among young women who are heavily emgaged in social media), which is one reason beyond merely the physical gender differences why female violence is much more social and reputational than physical. By bucking the dominant social trend, they risk falling victim to their fear of social ostracization. Like how it was said in the video that young women and men with feminine temperaments are more likely to be woke, I think it's entirely reasonable to infer that women who are more disagreeable and willing to buck the dominamt social trend or power structure probably have a more masculine temperament with a higher than average degree of diaagreeableness. Contrarian women are either more masculine in temperament, or they probably have an intimate social circle of likeminded people who provide a sense of security within their personal lives which affords them the psychological luxury of being a contrarian without having to deal with nearly as much fear of ostracization. It's much easier for anyone, man or woman, to confidently be a contrarian and fight the current of mainstream society when you have a support system of close family and friends backing your play. When you aren't at risk of being kicked out of your tribe, there goes the fear of ostracization and the need to conform along with it because losing your community, your primary mechanism for survival, is ultimately at the heart of one's fear of social ostracization. This might account for the more feminine women who are members of tightly knit and likely conservative religious families and communities.
Good point friend.
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“Low verbal intelligence” predicts wokeness.
Like, people don’t have the vocabulary to like describe like whatever it is they’re thinking like and because they don’t like understand the concepts, like like like like like like.
take my like. I like like likelikes.
but... liTERalLY!?
So, you people here are much more intelligent and logic than these women. Now I understand...
and I just think that, I mean, I just think like, you know, I mean, like, I dunno. You know? I mean, right?
@@timothyk1234 Yes, we're more logic than them.
Not even the greatest dystopian scifi writers could've predicted this woke matriarchy, where feelings and emotionalism overrule logic and rationalism
Yes I think we just need to accept that some people can't afford to be alive.
George Orwell did.
Finally, someone called it a matriarchy. Huge thumbs up.
Feelings and emotionalism overruling logic and rationalism? Sounds like the manoshpere and all the young men finding god.
@@s.e.studios1386 what are you on about?
Considering women tend to score higher on verbal intelligence tests, something isn't adding up here. In my experience if you express any nuanced thought as a woman at all you are seen as against the other women or against the cause. Additionally, men, especially young men around the age of the women mentioned make all these complaint about women being emotion led in their thinking but then in their dating preferences they usually prefer these women as mates. The social consequences for women are always greater both romantically and socially. Privately I've seen most women I know and have met be actually quite nuanced in their thinking when talking privately about any subject. So I really do think a lot of the behaviour of women in this age group is possibly performative and nothing to do with a redirected maternal drive or being innately more compassionate.
As a philosophy undergrad I was strong in analytic thought. I noticed that girls who studied literature and linguistics or languages excelled in continental thought. So I do think you have to consider whether men have a tendency to dismiss postmodernism or dialectic theory because it's so verbally convoluted, taking strong lateral thinking skills to consider, especially political mobilisations of Hegel. So I don´t think you can dismiss the possibility that one contributing factor to young women being more liberal is that they actually have the intellectual advantage on the men when it comes to comprehending the literature.
"So I don´t think you can dismiss the possibility that one contributing factor to young women being more liberal is that they actually have the intellectual advantage on the men when it comes to comprehending the literature." At first glance, this is a defensible theory. However, ultimately I think you're incorrect here. I mean look, the data tells us pretty unambiguously what the real patterns of unearned advantage and disadvantage are, despite incredibly uneven funding and publishing tendencies. So we know, for example, that certain subgroups of each of two main genders have enormous amounts of unearned advantage or disadvantage. While meanwhile, the genders themselves are not too far from parity, with the actual gender that's currently on top being a little bit hard to discern. Once we've accepted that basic reality, we can choose to be more or less sensitive and offense-prone in connection with comments and views that might increase that unfairness; however, the degree of outrage has to more-or-less line up with the actual patterns of unearned advantage and disadvantage in order for any semblance of intellectual defensibility to remain. So for example, if you find sexist comments more problematic than judgements of beauty, then you're at best completely wrong about everything. More likely, you're a complete asshole, adopting beliefs for personal advantage and not because you think they're true. Or, you're so selfish and intellectually incompetent, that you can't even distinguish between these two motivations. In any event, I'll just emphasize that the basic rankings of unearned advantage and disadvantage are essentially understood. And the point, really, is that wokeism gets the rankings, not slightly wrong, but outrageously, inexcusably wrong. And it's also true that wokeism is correlated with femaleness. So I don't think there's really much space for this hypothesis that the prevalence of female wokeism is the result of some kind of female intellectual advantage. It's clearly coming from a place of delusion, regardless of your preferred sensitivity level.
If we are going to talk about misplaced maternal instincts in women, we should also be looking for misplaced hunter instincts in men
Absolutely
They can be channeled into sports and not cause any harm to society.
@richatlarge462 indeed
Hunting as a sport do not cause any harm to society
@@richatlarge462 yeah
Group thinking. Peer Pressure. Mimetic Desire. Mirror Neurons.
Vapid egos and no self awareness I'd add to that
being a bunch of wusses. (i chose my words because i want to keep it classy in JPete's comment section)
This is too generic, the main point is hypergamy. Women have always responded this way in regards to the tribe leaders.
I see almost nothing but "Group thinking. Peer Pressure. Mimetic Desire. Mirror Neurons." among the comments here. Few sources, few original thoughts, almost all comments variations on theme posted hundreds of times. There is clearly a pattern! How are men to break free and come up with something constructive, acceptable solutions?
Nah, *lack of mirror neurons*
What happened to women? They don’t have kids anymore. That’s the problem. Without children to take care of, that nurturing instinct is misapplied.
Yes. Either two children or two idle hands, with idle hands being the devil's playthings.
@@kathycoleman4648 Wow, that's a pretty dark way of putting it.
Have you ever noticed that all woke people are very pale. It's anemia from iron deficiency. Women are more vulnerable to iron deficiency as they lose a lot of iron every month. It also causes sexual dysfunction which is why they don't want to have kids. I explain this in depth on my YT channel.
Peak b itching. About literally nothing. Produce nothing. All materialism consumers. Starbucks is their bizarre heaven. Serve me the swill.
Being a woke female is all about holding, and increasing woke privilege. But in reality, only LOYAL Woman, should be protected by the men in their lives
the "clean your room" pinstripes are legendary!
Women follow the dominant ideology for the same reason that men TEND to be contrarian: it is deeply rooted in biology. For almost all of history, for women to be cast out of the tribe was a death sentence. Not so for men, in fact it could serve to set you apart from your competitors and give you a chance at massive success. Whether they know it or not, the one overarching drive for women is to not be ostracized.
THIS. You absolutely nailed it with this comment, and to add to further is the fact that biologically and indeed historically most women are FOLLOWERS. They are easily suggestible and easier still to persuade to a cause that gains attention. Women want to be noticed, and getting involved in something like the "woke" or alphabet+ community which appears to be a hip and trendy thing to do is a magnetic, almost hypnotic to them. With age comes wisdom though, and as the reality of the world begins to truly take hold in their brains as they age past their 20's and 30's it becomes more clear to many that the radical ideals they embraced in their youth does them absolutely no good in middle adulthood as they plan for their golden years.
Young people in general are easy to manipulate and tend to follow groupthink. School and the media play a big role in that, especially now that kids have a computer in their pocket 24/7. I was homeschooled and chose not to get a smart phone until I was 22 and I am so thankful for that. I am 29 now and I still find it very hard to relate to many people my age because I don't enjoy drinking/partying/"advocating" for woke causes. I was taught to think critically, spend time outdoors, learn from people who are wise/experienced, explore interests and hobbies, grow in my faith, and work hard. I know not everyone has the opportunity to have an upbringing like that, but something has to change.
I got my first smart phone at 42
LOL!
@@robertrichards4930I got my first phone at 18. Beat that!
I remember the group think , kinda swarm intelligence from school.
The teachers/profs always had to inplement some anti conservative points during the lessons.
Since im put of school, my standpoints changed drastically.
Also the boomer generation never had those problems in school or when they went out drinking.
Just last weekend i could have been stabbed and then i couldnt tske the train back home because some terrorist fake called about an attack....
You're not alone :)
I still don't have a "smart phone" and I'm 53 IT tech. I do live like Neo from Matrix though... surrounded by computers. What would I need a smart phone for? And when I get out, a normal phone is perfectly fine with me. I can't understand why are people so addicted to the internet so they have to have it even in nature, or when walking a dog. It's sick.
I'm 62. I raised 4 daughters with two marriages. Their mothers made out like bandits--me, not so much. But I really did love being a dad. One thing I inculcated in them was to stop being a bitch and assume responsibility, even if they thought theirs was going to be an easier, softer way. 3 of the 4 became well adjusted, content individuals dealing with the everyday difficulties of life. The 4th, not so much. For her, I pray for her often, but I am not The Savior--and I won't go down with the ship. Her mother can, if she wants, but I won't. Thanks for reading.
Thanks for sharing.
Loved the story you’re a hero man god bless
You're a great Dad. Continue being strong and consistent. You are doing God's work. 💕🙏😇🙏💕
@@caterinaml Thank you for your kind word. Roy, So Cal
You're a shitty husband and father. It shouldn't matter what her politics are, she's your fucking daughter, man. Going down with the ship is your job.
Being woke means always being wrong and not having to apologise.
Women have had an onslaught of proprganda from hollywood and elsewhere that their value comes from their career and money and accolades from their peers via social media. They have been lied to and I see friends around me struggling in motherhood as they try to decide to quit their jobs while their own mothers are breathing down their necks to hire a nanny and get out in the workforce. These women lack confidence in motherhood and their own mothers did not raise them so they do not have Grandma to go to for advice. Id look into when daycares were normalized as well as outsourcing childcare etc
Interesting.
People who let their emotions control their actions are attracted to ideologies that promote those emotional behaviors.
Sometimes they recoil and join Islam... then change their mind about that, too!
Also..people with trust issues prefer to treat people as groups. In essence they give their selves over to loving the oppressed as a group vs loving family and individuals.
Isn’t the use of cancelling people absolutely inline with women’s use of character assignation as an expression of aggression to tear apart another person?
I think it's just a logical fallacy.
Like claiming a sin is just part of being a certain gender.
Yep, the reputation destruction angle is totally female-oriented. Men would settle it with fists, women destroy your image socially
Yeah, Barney...it sure is...
@@monkey6207, you posted this reply verbatim in another thread. Either you have nothing to add, or you’re a bot.
@@BeesAreArrogant Well I'm not, I just posted the reply to two similar comments. Do you know how to think in nuance?
Simple answer - They bow more easily to authority/propaganda, especially if it's framed in a lens of inclusion/equity
Around 2004 was when the internet started to rapidly gain popularity in people's personal lives.
I can proudly say that neither I, or any of my female friends, was ever "woke". I was roasting this nonsense the moment it became a thing and got pushed in everyones face.
I went to high school in a small midwestern town with two liberal arts schools in it and so almost everyone I used to be friends with went "woke". And they all unfriended me during Covid.
But I did notice something.
While it's primarily women who will follow the moral trends and tend to be on the left it is also women who I've seen be the first to start seeing the many layers of manipulation that we're under - one of them being the whole "woke" thing. I was a liberal in the 90's, too. It was the women that I know who were first to leave the left when it started acting like this. But we're Gen X, so they were all married and had kids. Maybe that's the difference. A lot of them have husbands who are still deeply under the spell of the so-called "elite", though, unfortunately. One friend's husband - who is one of those people I knew in high school, actually - learned that she voted for Trump and he said, "Who got to you?" As if she couldn't think for herself. And completely oblivious to the fact that HE was the one who was incapable of thinking for himself.
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Sounds nice and peaceful.
so kind of the same behaviour but on the other side? and proud of it. nice
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They think they are compassionate, but thinking of people in terms of groups is as dehumanizing as it gets.
Compassion has nothing to do with any of this. It is a power trip.
Yes. Young women (mothers) historically used their compassion mostly on children (Individual children in individual circumstances)....
Now their compassion is applied to massive racial, sexual, cultural groups (collectives of people under seemingly all circumstances). How can you be compassionate to a group when they are all wildly different and individual? You have to dehumanize and stereotype the people in that group in order to be compassionate to that one group.
Its very new in human history for human compassion being applied to groups consisting of millions of people.
From learning a little bit about genocides throughout the 20th centuries, I noticed a pattern of the perpetrators having a strong theory/ideology that their group are victims of another group's oppression and their language starts becoming dehumanizing towards the oppressors...
Compassion for one entity can lead to the destructive hatred of another if it is perceived to be the aggressor, which would make sense in regards to children.
I've not found women to be compassionate at all mostly I find them callous that's why single fathers raising their children do a much better job
✔ I agree with you, based on my observations of female behavior.
In 56 years of living and being politically conservative since I was 12, I cannot recall a time where women were more conservative.
Women have always been more "liberal", they have just gotten more leftist.
So the world will be destroyed by modern women....
Its why no society has ever been matriarchal and they are always run by men. Once the women take hold it all falls apart
Nice way to weasel out of the blame for men.
I didn't know only women were democrats, nice accountability.
@@monkey6207 Ball-less simps enable the women...
@@monkey6207 what should we do? take their rights away?
The same reason companies target women and children in advertisements more than men…
They are more susceptible to marketing and the power of suggestion…
There’s been studies done on this globally and it’s pretty consistent.
And George Orwell. That was like 80 years ago.
Or… they do the majority of shopping? For the home and family?
It's been known since early ages. That's why there's no female priests or rabbis at legitimate religious institutions.
@@GraceHarwood88that was certainly part of the initial female targeted advertising for canned goods and such, they had to win over mothers first and foremost as the primary shoppers for the household. However we can also notice a gradual change in the what and the how of advertising from that time to the present.
Actually it's more because women go shopping more than men, since they're not in an office all day and getting the groceries falls to them. I work in retail and men barely ever come in. So why would more ads be aimed at men when it's not their job to go to the store?
I think you need to look back to the nineties. I'm 54 and attended college in 1990 and the only questionable class I had was a study on the Indian wars from the Native American perspective instead of a general history course. We were required to take critical thinking courses to graduate.
All I could think about during your discussion was how Feminists in the 1990's suddenly started to defend offensive acts against women. So, when Clinton had his "issue", Women said that "Men will do what they do and he isn't to blame." And yet they were also calling for longer sentences for rape offenders, extensions on statute of limitation cases concerning kids, and equality for women in the workplace.
I could not and still do not understand why a president was excused from persecution and actually forgiven by the female activists of society, while the issues of women's rights were still being hotly debated in judicial circles. There was a disconnect there.
Same reason they're more susceptible to joining cults, they're followers
If they're followers then men are leaders. So then who's at fault?
@@CuriousCattery How dare you go spitting facts like that? You're absolutely right. Even the Bible says the very same. When the men fail, the women and children become disrespectful. The men fail to realize that they caused the problem to begin with.
@@CuriousCattery education. woman have become smart enough to fight for their rights and independence while being unable to FUNCTION independently. Now men CANT lead them anymore, because they arent allowed to.
or more precisely greed, capitalism and education that doesent consider side-effects. e.g. the state is happy with how things are because if woman try to work as well, that means twice the taxes to collect. so is the entire capitalistic ruling class because they can increase prices for everything if two people in the family make money. they dont want woman to be female and supportive, they dont want men to be masculin and leading. they want everything to be equalized and more easily controlled.
they should have improved on how men lead woman (no physical abuse but with some respect) and on how woman support men (no emotional traps or playing with their sexdrive as a reward system etc. aka emotional/social power abuse) instead of trying to reverse 2+ million years of evolution. womans brains are different from men. they have more interconnections between hemispheres. they associate more, they have a harder time keeping things separated which is crucial for decision making/logical -non emotional - conclusion processes (at the same time, its very beneficial for e.g. languages to associate objects, moods and abstract meaning of words etc., it isnt all bad, just case specific.).
@@CuriousCattery The ones thinking that leaders are sexist
Suffragettes
If my almost 13 year old daughter wasn't homeschooled and did have a "smart" phone, she'd be "woke" 100%. These poor kids don't stand a chance. They don't even have a chance for their frontal lobes to fully develop.
You are correct. Public schooling since Covid has been poison, for our children.
My siblings and I were homeschooled. Smartphones weren't really a thing back then... We're in our late 20's and early 30's now... and decent, stand-up citizens, my parents would say..... My sister is studying psychology, my brother is studying kinesiology... I didn't own an iPhone until I was 27... even then, I found little use for it; canceled after the first year..... Corrupt people in high places are definitely after your kids, protect them at all cost!
It is very sad. We are beyond a foothold, beachhead idealogical situation. We are overrun. I hate to say it.
The only chance these kids have is for their parents to actually be PARENTS! It’s ludicrous…no, repulsive, how many parents throw their young children a smartphone.
@@Kolinahr1701 People are very much starting to fight back against all this idiocy. Enough is enough.
"Compassion" is a misused term. Women are NOT more compassionate than men. Men display their compassion by telling hard truths, women display their compassion by coddling. There is a place for both, but if you rely on only one, you're selectively compassionate.
I just want to congratulate/ thank you on providing a definitive answer to the question in the title of the video. So many times I watch someone's video, get to the end and wonder what the answer is.
Genuinely fear of this generation of women an generations to come if this insanity doesn’t end.
I’m not, feminists will end up alone in their 40’s with cats or they will be pretty enough for a lunatic to impregnate her and leave and they will be miserable single moms, selection of good woman by men will save and replicate the good ones.
But be aware ... these young people are just victims of an evil narrative, witch is driven from an evil source. Don't blame the victims, blame the Source and reject it.
Their kids are going to be little shits!
They will not come and kill you or rape you, rest assured.
Yes. Memory can go on for decades... or longer even centuries, or millenia.
It simple why it affects young people. As they lack Purpose. So their easy to con... As they will latch onto any Cause that gives them value. It's a replacement for the family and church..
I have also reached the conclusion that "the woke" lack purpose.
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Agreed!
Suffragettes
Well said. At the root of every woke person is a person with no 'purpose'. Imagine a person with purpose and drive ever trying to get along with a person with no purpose or drive in life.
Women are emotional. Men are logical. It’s that simple.
Lol, I just noticed the pinstripes on his suit say "CLEAN YOUR ROOM"
Wokeness is rebellion masquerading as virtue.
You have one part right and one part wrong , wokeness is a rebellion against years of injustice and it is masquerading as anything except we have had enough of this crap and we intend to change it for the better
It's conformity masquerading as virtuous rebellion.
Bingo.
rebellion against the patriarchy?
Rebellion can be a good thing.
I wonder if this isn't an example of the "female herd structure" we were taught in health class back in the 1980s here in the US, where the lesson on dating and boy-girl relations in the early phases were often complicated by the tendency that girls generally herd together, making them less approachable than boys, who are more often comfortable walking around school, eating etc on their own. That, together with something I read once about womens' role in the continuation of religiousity in societies (the old women in church meme) both seem to fit with young women being more woke, if woke is a new "religion."
Who took the first step towards the forbidden fruit? Well I’m telling it as a woman: we are easily influenced. Sometimes hugely naive, sometimes malicious. God help us.
@yourfanfictionhd : It was Eve who first ate of the forbidden fruit. The Serpent (i.e. Satan) turned to Eve first, to tempt her, because he figured she was the easier mark (being a woman and therefore more emotional). After she ate the fruit, Eve approached Adam and tempted him, and he succumbed.
IAC, I don't see what difference it makes in the end who went first -- they both sinned (i.e. disobeyed God's direct commandment not to eat the the Fruit of the Forbidden Tree, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil). Because they BOTH sinned, they were BOTH cast out of Paradise.
That is the Biblical narrative. People can take their pick as to whether they believe this story or not, but if they do, it is clear the Adam and Eve both sinned, and were therefore both punished.
I can't for the life of me figure out what Peterson is trying to say
"So what you're saying is that we should rescind women's suffrage, right?"
- Cathy Newman
Peterson would never say so, as an avowed liberal, but I sure as hell would. Yes, unironically, that is one of the many drastic decisions that need to be made to save the West. I would gladly go down in history as a monster to save my people.
Permitting women to vote was indeed a suicidal mistake.
No one that does not own property should vote
Good idea
Only fathers should vote