Best TV of CES 2025 - QD-OLED vs Tandem OLED vs RGB-Mini LED
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- We pick the TV that impressed us the most at CES 2025, choosing mainly from the Hisense 116UX RGB-Mini LED TV, the LG G5 & the Panasonic Z95B with 4-layer tandem OLED panel, as well as the Samsung S95F QD-OLED with EL gen 3 technology (except 83-inch model).
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The DiCaprio joke was golden
Anyone that tells him that she was born in the 20th century, are too old for him. He could ask a woman, what year were you born in and as soon as she says 19, he's out of there
Not for the people who know he is closeted and only uses these women as a cover. He is close to a man named Lukas Haas. And he is not the only one. Hugh Jackman and his PR team also know that being seen as a cheater is more acceptable than being "out in the open".
Yeah ripped off from Ricky Gervais 👍
Can we all just stop for a moment and agree that Vincent is a Godsend, for cutting right through the marketing and giving us a fair, concise and expert breakdown of the tech being shown off at CES? Thank you sir, I am planning ahead based on the info you have given here.
Notice me senpai
Digital trends and Linus Tech Tips both reported on Samsungs RGB “Micro LED” tv but neither highlighted what the micro in this case actually meant which confused the hell out of myself and other commentators as we all thought (correctly) that micro LEDs would have no need for an RGB back light as they are already self emissive. Thank you for clarifying where the other channels did not. Best in the business.
Not great by Samsung at all!
Micro led is a dead technology regarding home tv’s.
Way too expensive and fixed manufacturering costs and low output of panels @@tennissir1986
@@tennissir1986”dead” would imply it lived in the first place lol
@@phantom498 Well if you have a spare $150,000 Samsung sells a 150 inch model.
Samsung’s marketing strategy to call their TV MicroLED must be changed. It’s very deceptive.
They're the QLED and "OLED sucks, at least before we start shipping it" guys too.
Agreed!
Samsung is always behind on tech but due to their massive size they are able to benefit most from it when they eventually adopt it.
Being deceptive is one of Samsungs core ethical principles.
Who was the first manufacturer to call their LCD panels “led?” Samsung?
In the previous video you are standing in front of the 116UX and the quality is so good that a woman in red walked past and I thought "damn, can't she see you are filming", then realised she was on the TV.
The DiCaprio joke made me laugh! xD
Only channel that explains these new models that Ican understand, thank you Vinnie 😊😊😊
This year the competition will be crazy between these TV's. Can't wait for a review of this Hisense and if it lives up to the hype.
Competition for whom? Enthusiasts chose LG and Sony flagships. They are the only ones who bring the best picture processings with 3D pop image.
Well done. The 116UX will necessitate a good installer ! 😅
Good and strong. It looks quite chunky!
crazy how advance sony was, introducing a technology 17 years ago.
@@shronklescrimblo69 $8000 back then .. 55 inch. Crystal clear 1080p. Top notch stuff
I had one, it was awesome at the time
@@KaizenOzWhat happened to it? Cos I have a couple of Kuros that still work great from that time 😁
@@stepheng8779 it eventually stopped working, year 12 🤣
They made the first OLED TVs, the first IPS 4K phone and first OLED 4K screen phone which as a bonus the Xperia XZ Premium with it's 4K screen can do 1080p 120hz along with many other Sony phones around that era but it's only accessible through a custom ROM.
That G5 is holing me back on pulling the trigger on the G4. I hope the reviews come very soon.
I have a G4 and it's incredible even if the G5 is probably slightly better it's all incremental given content has to be calibrated
Not until March unfortunately, I'm in the same boat. I actually did upgrade my cx briefly to a g4 but it had uniformity issues so I exchanged for s95d, terrible mistake I should've just got another G4 but returned that right away and these were announced so I decided to wait.
@ Thsts sucks. I have the 95D but I miss LG G-Series. It’s made for a home theater. It has every audio codec I need unlike Samsung plus Dolby vision and better picture processing. I regret this purchase.
@ Agree. The issue is pricing right now. I want the 83 inch G4 which is 5K plus right now and I do have a 95D 77 inch. If I’m going to spend 5K on a TV, I want to spend it on the best TV worth 5K that I can buy.
@@AndrewB23 Why was the s95D a terrible mistake? was it not good in a dark room
Coverage of the TCL QDEL display please 🙏
Vincent. The God King of display information and reviews. All Hail the King!
The LG Evo G5 for me with its 4K resolution, 165Hz refresh rate, and NVIDIA G-SYNC certification. Plan to upgrade from my LG OLED C2 I currently use it as both a display monitor for my mac mini, desktop pc and as a TV, I'll be picking up the LG Evo G5 on release
Remember it doesn't come with a stand and sizes below 55" don't have the brightness improvements from the new 4 layer panel.
Also have a C2, but only 240Hz is really enticing for me, so I guess it's a skip this year too.
are you wearing 4 t-shirts?
It’s winter.
Now that’s a four layer stack.
Looks like 3, the red shirt just has purple around the collar
How bad is your tv that you can't clearly see it's 3 layers?
3d
Vincent bringing the Heat as always!...good stuff!
I indeed had the great sony xbr8 '55 size in 2008. it was awesome for its time,great blacks and color.the sony processor produced a very grainy filmy picture at the time.but the tech was ahead of its time.
I wonder how the panasonic z95b compares with the lg g5 in a potential future test.
As long as Panasonic doesn'T turn back to its own chipset, it will suck.
*Looks like we will not see blue pholed in qd-oled until 2027 earliest because the Samsung display rep said they are on a 2 year cadence when it comes to new materials.*
Tests to see if it last the usage! Or burn badly in few years!
So yeah! Even when the new oled material is actually made… it takes time to tress test it.
Yea, it's starting to feel a bit like microLED, just on a smaller supposed ETA.
Damn, I've been with my TV for at least 10 years and desperately need an upgrade (horrible backlight bleed). But I can't bring myself to when I know that a major release is around the corner. I've waited this long so what is a few more years? A painful wait.
Is it fixing ABL?
Unless they can eliminate blooming, especially with closed captioning on, I'll stick south oled
Vincent, could you please do a setup guide for the Hisense U8N, all the guides online use the android OS but the UK version uses their Vidaa OS and it's pretty different. I bought it as I'm an avid gamer and have just bought a PS5 pro and specifically would love to know the best setting for it. Thank you!
If they can boost refresh rates on these super high nit LCDs to 240hz+ then combined with strobing, the gap narrows significantly between LCD and OLED for motion, though it doesn't disappear.
Seeing 10,000 nits in highlights out of the 115 UX is great for the 60 plus years of legacy content mastered on professional CRTs at the NTSC spec. Finally an LCD is putting out the raw luminescence that the old analog Tube's electron beam spot was capable of putting out. That's why the SDR content feels HDR, because the display is finally approaching the physical light output of old analog tube TV that the content was mastered on.
@@jamescampbell8482 interesting comment, thanks!
Got a surprise bonus this year, and I'm debating this year whether I should invest in a new tv for my living room or a new gaming laptop? Budget limit: up to $5K, tax included.
I am waiting for the 83-inch OLED TV from Sony with LG NEW OLED PANEL
Keep waiting....
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Fantastic video as always!! Thank you ❤
I definitely would prefer the LG Micro Leds Displays Technology uses Sapphire inorganic materials which gives the Leds Higher Brightness consistently 📺!
Great video, congrats! My question his: why all these company when it come to make tv's in 48'' or 42 '', they don't put all there specs ? I know the G5 will have one in 48'' finally, but without the advantages of the bigger sizes... Come on LG !!! I would really appreciate your opinions on the best oled tv in the 48'' sizes and hopefully you will make some comparable videos on the different marks! Thanks!
I have a G1 from 2021 (evo panel) I think I’ll upgrade to the G5 in 2026
You are the king!
Did anyone else see the mega blooming around the tennis lady as she approaches the net on the Hisense? Im sure its overblown on the recording and might still be very good in person but OLED will always be King in that regard. Now just give me send me a 83 inch OLED with 3000 nits and 90% BT2020 and Im good.
Did you get to AWALL for their microled displays? Can build various sizes at surprisingly cheaper $$$. 😊
Awesome video again. Samsung and it's naming... forst the QLED to confuse consumers with OLED and now the micro/mini LED names get get the same treatment.
The next TV I buy, I'm hoping will have the blur busters CRT tech implemented in it
All this is very exciting for those of us shopping a couple years out
17 years later..... that's crazy.
I‘m still happy with my SONY A95K. 🤩👌
Can you cut to the chase? So which one is best?
Vincent for president!
What TV and monitor do you use personally Vincent?
Good question !!! Probably his professional monitor
He's like a gynecologist, after staring at TVs all day it's the last thing he wants to look at when he comes home.
a 4 inch QDEL display
165" MicroLED
@@flatfish-d9o I have it on good authority he’s rocking a Westinghouse 37” 720P Edge-Lit LCD from 2008.
Is the newest Sony OLED still best overall picture or did Panasonic take it??
Thoughts on TCL QM8B?
Looking forward to your thoughts on the TCL QM6K.
Wait I thought the UX also had 85 and 98" versions?
I'm really stuck.. Had a 55" LG C9 for 6 years now, but have the opportunity to build a hone theatre with about 9-10ft viewing distance. The options are 77" LG G5, or the new Hisense L9Q UST projector with 120" screen. In completely dark room it might be way more immersive. I really like the Hisense Trichroma 116UX but it'll probably be about £20k
Which one did he pick?
Is it worth upgrading LG C4 to the new C5 model?
Are there any major changes besides the sign? The panel model? clarity?
Fantastic video Vincent BUT what's happening with SONY TV's i really hope SONY bring out the new A95K - QD-OLED OR LG's 4 STACK TANDEM PANEL STRUCTURE PANEL TO have the A95K
Would be great if somehow you can get your hands on the 100” and have that one in the shoot out- though I think everyone would know which it is being the only 100”
116” will be to much $$ I’m sure… the 100” could’ve been a great choice..
That Hisense 116" UX has me curious now. I will buy a TV and keep it 5 years, or more if it last, so get the LG G5 83" this year or wait till 2026 for a UX 85" or maybe Panasonic Z95C? 83". I look forward to your test and reviews Vincent
Why is HLG not reviewed on top end TVs? In the UK HLG is very important. It's used for HDR on Sky, Virgin, and BBC iPlayer. So it needs to be reviewed. I know Samsung used to have poor HLG, but I we now have no idea how HLG on Samsung's new TVs fares. I know LG does HLG well. But what about others such as Samsung, Panasonic, Phillips, TCL, Hisense, and Sony?
It looks like there’s no 48 inch QD oled tv this year, I have a 10 year old 40 inch Panasonic edge lit tv that I want to upgrade from. Should I get the 48 inch B4 or C4 or wait for the 2025 tv models?
The markup on OLED for manufacturers is💰
@HDTV does the Samsung S95F have the same matte coating as the S95D model from 2023/24? If yes, do the other TVs hv good matte coating too? I hv a bright room with windows and sliding doors everywhere, need a TV with good anti reflections, but I also play game and watch old blurays, so need good upscaling.
@akirahojo2: Yes, the Samsung S95F has a matte coating, but with deeper blacks and higher ambient contrast than that on last year's S95D when hit by light.
Wow the Samsung RGB Micro LED already releasing this year? Amazing. Hopefully these Hisense 116" UX come next year in smaller sizes! 55" up to 87" would be great.
Just to make sure, you didn't miss the part where he clarified this is not actually a Micro LED TV but rather a standard LCD TV with deceptive marketing?
@Aramil4 this is clear and actually surprised me, but the TV is insane and I prefer to get a 77" (in this case 75") RGB LED soon than waiting another 5 years on the MicroLEDs. So yeah, it was clear, same as the Hisense is a "miniLED"
I heard that hisense is the one making panels for Samsungs rgb “micro led” panels
@@rix5301 wow! The next few years are going to be great
Not true they only get their 98 inch mini led from TCL@@rix5301
Hello, please tell me if mini-LED VA panels from LG will appear this year (2025)?
Lol I remember the Triluminos branding; was hoping something cheaper would come of it, but alas.
Any news on 240Hz TVs?
Any idea on price for the 100UX?
How is that RGB mini LED supposed to work properly? there are quite a few less LEDs than pixels. It averages for the zone and lets the LCD do the rest?
mini led is great but most consumers only want a TV up to 65 or 77 tops oled is great at this
Is that a 4-stack t-shirt?
Get a new TV or visit specsavers.
So is it worth waiting for the G5 or get a G4 now ?
£3500 vs £2200 for the 65".
Sony.....please please use QD-OLED for your A95L successor.
Will the G5 be more blue cuz of the extra blue layer? LG TVs are already too blue.
The Mini LEDS Televisions Displays Technology still uses a backlighting system to project the Leds lighting which causes blooming distorted colours in the Displays Televisions Technology 📺 pictures as well as the quality of true black ⚫️ Colour looks gray in the pictures 📸 background 😀!
@HDTVTest Why won't the Sony Bravia 9 be in the shootout?
with 10BIT Viedo and Audio Formats can you send a 10bit DD5.1 into a 8 Bit Receiver and get Audio Working ?
It will just scale down to 8bit
@sarahwright6833 I can't figure out how to on my denon avr 4308 , 2009 model , do you have any ideas 🤔
It only takes Optial Digital Sound no hdmi direct it's to old
I need a 98" with a pedestal. Do they all (98") have feet on the outside?
How much will this Hisense 116UX cost?
Lg oled c4 or Samsung s90d
Currently using my C2, but it's going to go in the bedroom.. Considering looking at the qd again, but idk, the last 2 had DSE.
It's not mentioned enough in Samsung tvs, and it's turned me off from looking at the new ones.
More new will come soon only not yet… Hope Sony won’t skip qd oled😅
But what’s the viewing angle on the 116” tv? Does it all go to trash when sitting off-axis? Like what’s the point of a massive led-lcd tv if you see a shift from dead center because of the massive size?
That always bugged me. I had an lcd with local dimming and when viewing off axis, the blooming was insane!
Vibrant colours and 0 blooming even when you're far to the side. You can find footage of it, a few youtubers have filmed it off-axis.
@@bartus88 Zero blooming? No.
is there any other TV manufacturer on the market where i can put it directly on the wall in the same way as LG gallery series? Thank you
is there anything good at 42-43" to use as a PC monitor?
A shout out for the XBR8. Vince you know your stuff
Thanks for mentioning the XBR8. I've been trying to get clarification about this as being the same basic idea. Considering the hype is that it's "new" and a breakthrough and so on. I get that this is a step above and beyond with the LED backlight being finer, the resolution being higher, but it is indeed the same basic concept. I had that set and loved it until a friend's kid threw his matchbox car into it. The purest colours I'd seen by a country mile back then, especially the reds blew me away. And I didn't mind the "dumbo ears" at all. Overengineered ans super exy, and Samsung were right in thinking most people wouldn't notice the difference and knocked Sony out for ages. But hey, that set was amazing and I always refer to it as one of those landmark ones...
What’s the best 76” TV I was looking at the TCL qm8 looks good n cheaper then most any ideas anyone or FOMO
It’s a big mystery as to why LG didn’t show the details of the new tandem oled panel where is the Panasonic gave us a full details.
Even with the fancy backlighting, I don't understand how the Hisense RGB mini-LED TV could possibly display such a large percentage of the BT.2020 color space. The light still needs to pass through liquid crystals. What kind of LCD panel does it use?
The color bscklight makes the difference
Which 85 inch led mini tvs are ips
Is LG likely to ever ditch the white sub-pixel at this point? I was hoping their tandem RGB screens would be just RGB and not still WRGB.
Not enough people are willing to buy a small screen quality TV when a large one with a bright display will do. Best not to confuse business with personal preference.
Chunty chunty five is going to be very exciting.
Will LG G5 use DSC? Because i was disappointed when i tried Samsung and found out i cant set 8k resolution
I don't know what to get and 2025 just started. Games and Movies for me with Television shows as standard needs.
Panasonic OLED RGB backlight tv
@@sarahwright6833 I thought we don't want backlit tvs which are LED and not OLED.
Dude, you have a PhD on TVs and anything related to this field 😎.
The technology of the giant Hisense also amazed me.
However, we will have to be patient, because between its presentation at CES and seeing 55-65 inch TVs arrive at very reasonable prices, a few years will pass.
I saw TCL's OLED in small format and it's extremely promising too.
Little by little, we will end up with huge TVs that are closer to the professional sector and calibration monitors.
I've had bad luck with the hisence software, it keeps getting slower and less responsive. Now it takes a good 15 seconds just to load into the main menu when I turn the TV on.
Funny how these guys face off against eachother at the shootouts using eachothers parts/panels
Except they're not, because their display manufacturing division is entirely different from their TV manufacturing division.
LG Display makes WRGB OLEDs to be sold basically for everyone, while LG Electronics is the division that manufactures these LG OLED TV flagships using LG Display's OLED panels.
Likewise, Samsung Display manufactured QD-OLED for everyone, while Samsung Electronics manufactures different TVs of all kinds, including a QD-OLED flagship using Samsung Display's panels.
@troy5568 Sony used Samsung's gen 2 qd oled panel in the a95l when it competed against the s95c. That's literally what i said. It's not false. They used Samsung's (parent company which owns all the divisions) panel. That's all I'm saying. I know they have the different divisions but I'm looking at it from the overall company perspective. Just find it amusing since the panel is the most important tech along with the chipset.
Display manufacturing is similar to semiconductor manufacturing, you get the cheapest prices per panel because you keep the factory occupied as much as possible, producing panels to sell to whoever wants them. However, no single manufacturer can offer everything a consumer might want, and it’s best to separate out expertise when it’s warranted.
So what come first, Pholed or QD-UV?
Qd-uv seems to be simpler. Pholed needs long term tests to see if itnlas long enough… to cover the varrantry time…
For me OLED is the king, as pure blacks matter more to me, considering the movies are getting darker, and the brightness is already sufficient. Definitely, tech is progressing fast in displays industry. For now I am happy with my LG C3 (3rd OLED in past 8 years) and will wait for C6/G6 next year. LG offers good prices, also the reason why i keep getting them. Need now 32" 4K OLED monitor to upgrade my 32" 4K 144Hz VA display, just waiting for proce corrections.
What about TCL new models?
That's what I'm wondering is their a qm9 or something
Any idea on price for the 116?
Gotta be 20k
He said it was 30k usd
Yes $30k!
Sony A95L or G4/G5?
A95L sux in SDR. And there are other issues.
I'm so distracted by that dust spec in your camera sensor. Please clean up your sensor.
@madfinntech: That's not a dust speck, but a drill hole in the wall which was out of focus due to the shallow depth of field.
it's kinda sus to me that both LG and Samsung have a 30% lead this year and in the G3 generation they had a similar uptick as well. Seems to me that they have all the innovations ready and are drip feeding us so that they can keep making jumps each year and have a partnership with each other so that they don't completely destroy the other
Ofcourse they want to make some increasement each year! How else they would create fomo!
So it make Sense to not put all improvements to one year product.
Most electronics manufacturers have pipelines at least 2-3 years deep with the ability to tweak final specs to match competitors so that there’s always something new each year and the difference between the competition is the smallest possible. There’s no prize for creating the perfect TV in 2025, you’ll have nothing new to sell someone in 3-7 years until it breaks.
Vincent king of the nit nerds.
Until Samsung adds Dolby Vision, I won’t take them too seriously. Hisense is going to take the crown this year, with Sony in a close second. TCL has found their niche as usual though being the best bang for the buck. The QM7 and QM8 will find its way in a lot of homes this year.
I agree with the first thing you said, I don't take Samsung seriously, and it goes beyond not having Dolby Vision. Their matte finish is ugly, the one connect box is problematic and their image processing isn't as good as LG and Sony.
163 inches ooooh yeahhh give me that wall power!!! but cheap please ... please mr hisense.
The C5/G5 better not have a green tint in the screen like the C4/G4...
LG o melhor fabricante de TVS DISPLAYS etc do mundo LG tem confiabilidade qualidade líder imponente tem experiência durabilidade é segura só LG dá 5 anos de garantia etc LG melhor do mundo LG capricha em tudo 👑🥇🏆🌟💯🎉
Not much upgrade in the 42" size. Guess my CX will last another generation.
42” is not a size that is ”sexy”… it needs to be cheap… so it will getbthe cheapest hardware they just can find…
@haukikannel it is the size I need to use it as a monitor for my PC, I'll gladly pay 55" G series price for a 42" G series. but I might be a minority on that
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Yeah… that is the point. Not enough demand for really high quality small tvs!