Probably, recorded earlier.. they record multiple videos and projects in a day after all.. to keep consistent uploads.. imagine 1 video per 2 months ☠️.. although that would make it Netflix level quality.. 😂
I sold high end television for years and even been taught by Lucasfilm and certified in THX technologies, just gonna say this is one of the best done videos I have ever seen ever to show the differences and why such an expensive television is worth it. Excellent job folks you did absolutely stellar work here
@@the_bridgesthey don’t cut any corners in production (not cost savings by using 3rd party components that are ultimately worse) and more importantly the target market is quite small, colorists in a professional setting. 20k for a color accurate monitor isn’t even that much more than the standard in these industries, if anything it’s right in line with a lot of professional grade equipment. Whether it’s a RED cinema camera (50k for a sensor), a hasselblad (20k sensor and used just for high detail studio photography), or whatever else it’s just a different kind of product. It isn’t for mass consumption because most of the benefits are irrelevant to most people. Color accuracy is great, but unless you are trained in the field/have a consumer product to directly compare it to a lot of people aren’t going to be able to tell. Same goes for speakers, headphones, monitors, camera lenses and sensors. TLDR: expensive because it’s all self built and not many people will buy it, meaning the cost has to be higher to ensure it can continue to exist.
@@jaredliveson1764 On a consumer TV, even with all of the processing settings the manufacturer provides you turned off, the chips that decode and present the video are actually still doing some of their own and taking shortcuts wherever they can get away with it without negatively impacting the experience of actually watching media. The panels are also bright enough to display the vast majority of content, but not as bright as they could possibly be manufactured. These are cost-saving measures and the reason a consumer TV costs what it does. The Flanders display gives you the raw signal and the best panel they can muster. It's not for consumers, it's for the professionals who do a film's color grading during production. It allows them to really dial in the exact changes they're making with the highest degree of accuracy. It's similar to how an audio mastering engineer does all their work on studio-grade headphones for the mixing process, before testing the result on everything from AirPods to car speakers to a smartphone. It accomplishes this by forgoing the off-the-shelf chips from Mediatek, Samsung, LG, etc. and using FPGAs for everything. These integrated circuits are really expensive - because they can be reprogrammed as many times as you need. Flanders programs these to handle the same tasks as the off-the-shelf chips without the extra processing, and without having to fabricate their own custom chips.
@@rileysimmons9886it's not the review of this product! It's a video to showcase cool tech. Nobody who is actually the target audience of this thing is going to make up their mind based on what linus has to say about it!!
Guy in my team used to work for a company that made display port KVMs for studios, they were basically display and audio pipelines implemented on FPGA. the amount of work that goes on to NOT add ‘corrections’ and have ‘what you see is what you get’ is wild.
The $250 option will be complete ass, I'm sorry to say. At least for something like a 55-inch TV, it will be a bottom-barrel panel with none of the bells and whistles. HDR? Nope. HDMI 2.1/high refresh rate/VRR? Nope. Color accuracy? In your dreams. You'll be lucky to get even the most basic local dimming.
You have clearly never actually seen a quantum dot display of any type. It is the biggest improvement in display since the colour CRT. It won the Nobel prize in physics for good reason.
Define "everyday users". Someone who watches movies everyday in their home room theater for example is also considered an everyday user but would most certainly NOT consider a $250 tv to "more then enough". The only people who would accept that kind of tv are going to be those who have never tried anything better OR people who can't afford better.
When he said “the Samsung is more pleasing to my eye” I think it summed a lot of this up really well. For nearly everyone, and nearly all content, how it’s “supposed” to look matters far less than if looks the way the watcher wants.
Same for audio, studio monitors aren't always the best experience even though they may be more accurate. People like 'colour' in their audio, not usually the more flat audio experience.
yeah, this is a neat review in terms of geek factor but, watching this review on my 1440p IPS monitor, it's like, who cares - I'm not buying it, i'll never know the difference and literally none of the displays I'll ever watch content on will have this accuracy. you really have to wonder what the point is. I guess cinema displays - projectors or IMAX - but what % of professional content/cinema consumers actually view via those channels these days? everyone's streaming on their sh-tbox 4k budget TV or monitor these days
Same with audio. F.e. a lot of people are critical of Sony dynamically tuning the 1000X-series. But in the past they had the 1R-series that was tuned more neutral, and people didn't buy it. I would say that even people who say they like neutral sound do in fact not like it. The TV manufacturers did their research and know what people like, even better than the people themselves who often don't like the cinema-settings or film-maker mode (which still isn't as accurate as what a monitor like this XMP550 or the Sony, Trimaster series and probably a compromise between producers and experts from the part taking manufacturers) but when they get used to it, they do.
@@JFat5158 Preach. Tried Genelecs for a while years ago, and while they were amazing, they just lacked all the pizzazz, had to change to passives for that fun sound.
Pulling from the labs crew for more in-depth details is incredible! The added insight the labs members have on more specific/niche tech is a critical touch
xD yes, me! Was just checking that out. I was starting to think my screen had a dead pixel but I noticed it wasn't present in other shots or when moving a window over it.
This video made me question if I had a dead pixel on my monitor... Every time the camera went to Linus and Brandon, there was a single white dot on the screen in the exact same place every time.
What really got me was the low light quality of their camera while they're in shadow too. No idea why the white pixel was showing up, maybe some post processing error?
@@chalion8399 When you crank the ISO of most cameras there are always pixels that end up showing up 'bright', even after a black frame calibration it just seems to be the way cameras are. I know most LTT videos are shot on FX6s which are pretty good with low light, but even so this video looked to be shot in the 100,000 ISO range which is cranking it by any definition.
I always appreciate the videos where they show us differences in screens and audio quality and I'm watching on my 8 year old computer monitor with built in 3w speakers.
I have a three monitor setup with three different monitors (not used concurrently, two are side-by-side with one made for color-accurate editing while the third is on an arm in front of my gaming couch) and I enjoyed watching this on all three at the same time and seeing the differences, and then knowing that I'll never really know the real difference because this was all filmed. Maybe I need to get a Flanders for my fourth monitor :P
I love it when you review pro gear. I'm a 20+ year broadcast video engineer. I always love having the Sony OLED Trimasters, but these Flanders Sci monitors are looking good too. Also a note colorist Cullen Kelly recommends the LG C3 43" as a budget option for a reference monitor. (You still need to professionally calibrate it.)
@@Daithi_mk you need test gear (colorimeter, spectrophotometer, some reliable signal generator) and knowledge of the TV calibration menu and the workflow to get reliable results. It shouldn't be more than a few hundred if you have a local calibration tech and that person is not too busy.
@@Daithi_mk It’s not to difficult you just need to get a calibration kit that can handle the tv and your production requirements. Then follow the instructions that come with the tv and calibration kit. Just look up display calibration kit on google for different options just be aware that some of the more capable ones are expensive!
I just want to take a moment to appreciate the LTT team for dealing with YT's wack processing and making sure these videos are available in 4k and everything else it is seriously so nice
I hope this does well because I absolutely love comparisons of high grade enterprise/mastering/EXTREMELY non consumer devices to consumer devices and in a lot of cases, the gap is closing. So it's always super interesting.
7:25 Right after he says "picking at" there is a cut. My heart sank for a split second as I thought I had dead pixels. Right side of Brandon's Hair and way off to the right of Linus' head lol
i love this new method of throwing linus in a part of the scene to fill in the viewer with more info and tidbits, idk if it was cause you guys left it out of the script or not but that is very smooth and i wouldnt know if thats fixing a mistake or just a bit either way, loving the progress keep things like this up guys good work
The phrase "memory colors" immediately hit in a way that helped me understand why "reference" footage versus various display processing magic. If you're looking at something for which you have no frame of reference, it could look like anything at all and you will just accept it. If you're looking at something that your brain has an immediate reference for, differences stand out. But, as with all content, color matching is only as good as the palette designed by the color editor. Whatever was filmed by the camera will never be seen by the end user regardless of display; it goes through myriad filters and adjustments that (presumably) have taken into consideration it will be played back on a variety of displays.
6:10 Samsung S95B is 2022 and filmmaker mode has issues.(first year for Samsung with QDOLED) Filmmaker mode is much better with the 2023 S95C sets. Panasonic has the best OLED with out of the box accuracy(better shadow detail) but they dont sell them in the U.S/Canada anymore. If you want dead on accuracy you need to hire a ISF calibrator to calibrate the set. You could calibrate these sets to be much closer to the Flanders....especially if they were using current gen OLED like the MLA from LG and the newer Samsung sets.
I have an S95C and noticed a big difference once I calibrated the display vs in filmmaker mode. 2023 Filmmaker mode is objectionably better than the 2022 version but it still has issues.
LTT has done many display videos in the past, and I'm happy to say this is the first (in my memory of watching LTT) that matches HDTVTest in terms of technical level.
This reminds me of when I was working a job at the Sony Store in the Galleria Mall in Dallas TX circa 2007, when Sony released the XEL-1: the world's first OLED Television. The screen was tiny, at only 11 inches diagonal, and it cost $2,500. Crazy how far we've come since then!
That was the TV I thought of when reading the video title, saw it at a Sony store when went to a GDC convention in 2008. Really left an impression at the time.
This brought back memories of reviewing video output on a studio monitor. It was an old Sony CRT model, and only a grade 2 device, but the quality that it picked up and showed was tremendous. It was well worth it compared to any other display we tried by comparison, and that's before all the useful features such as a proper visual overscan display, colour masking and anything else available was used.
10:45 TCL is actually one of the few mass-market TV OEMs which is vertically integrated, including in the chips. This is quite impressive as they have budget-friendly offerings. Hence, I typically assume that they see it as not a part of their core business. Which is especially strange, given that the chip is something which can make or break a TV. Moreover, Samsung has a branch which designs and manufacturers chips.
The LG OLED is a pretty standard “client” monitor alongside a colorist’s Flanders (or equivalent) just for anyone curious. Of course, proper pipeline, and paying a tech to professionally calibrate it still apply.
@@scorch527 jfc, its not a joke, it's juxtaposing the insane price point with the RELATIVELY-COMPARED-TO-THE-INSANE-PRICE-POINT tiny size, to pique interest about what else might be the reason for the price point. You know, they talk about you (People who call him out of touch because they fail to comprehend very basic communication) sometimes on the wan show, check it out some time.
Surgical monitors are very similar and they are fantastic monitors. Even going back to CRTs, these "broadcast" and medical monitors are far superior to what the normal person would get at home.
i kinda wish they had the flanders guys be interviewed, its always a ton of fun seeing people who are passionate about their specific field break it down in detail
Watching this in HDR on an M3 Max MacBook Pro display was awesome. Some of those scenes seared my eyeballs right out. Probably the best HDR video I've seen so far (that actually had content worth consuming and wasn't just a tech showcase)
17:00 i mean, if someone wanted to make the best projector... separate lasers and dlp chips for each laser. i dont care if i have to hand calibrate it.
Seeing Hetzner Ads on LTT while being Hetzner customer since years, both in our company as well as for my private stuff. Feels good to have such a great, local sponsor on this channel.
I remember back in the early days of FSI (mid 2000's) when they came by our shop to demo their first monitors. At the time they were more the less expensive version of the higher end monitors (like sony, dolby, etc). They brought a klein color sensor as well. It was an interesting demo, but hard to beat our CRTs at the time (blacks especially of course, we had large widescreen sony CRTs BVM-D32 I think.) Fun to see them rise to the top!
6:03 if you use filmmaker mode on Samsung TV you are basically watching content through lightly applied sepia filter so it doesn't surprise me that you would complain about color accuracy
Just change the contrast to 47 that's what I had to do with my lg also bring down the gama a bit resorts in a pretty big difference I would also bring down saturation vibrance down one or two points
This actually makes me want to buy this TV. The trees in the first scene just look so realistic. This also made me realize when I dont like LG TVs, their picture is always too cool looking where the warmer samsung looks better to me
From about 6:15 there's a dead pixel on your camera or some other anomaly when facing both you guys, i panicked thinking my 2 week old qled was imperfect but it's definitely there.
I have tried a lot of different OLED TV's. By far, my favorite TV i have seen is the one i own. The LG C2 (and hopefully soon the C3). Not only is it amazing for watching movies, but gaming in 4K 120fps with gsync on my 4070 ti super / 7800x3d PC build really takes advantage of what the LG C2 has to offer. I went with the 42" and got it open box, but brand new, for $700. From PC, to PS5, to watching movies and shows, i truly belive it is the best tv you can get for its cost.
I assume the Flanders arrived for review after being perfectly calibrating using $15k worth of colorimeters and Spectroradiometers. Can the same be said for the Samsung and the LG? unless they were all calibrated using the same gear and software, isn't this test sorta a waste of time to compare? I work in professional content creation and filmmaker mode out of the box isn't anything I would rely on. We run the monitor through calman studio with proper gear. Everyone can drool over Flanders, but perhaps its not the screen that's so beautiful, but instead the perfect calibration you are seeing. Years ago, rumor on the street was that their XM series OLEDs were $17k screens that were using THE SAME internal LG panels, but Flanders threw on some SDI ports , added internal LUT processing, added easy colorspace switching , but it in a custom branded chassis, and jacked the price from $3000 (consumer LG) to $17,000. So before everyone starts getting too excited about these Flanders, we should be asking once again where they are getting these panels internally. I can only assume they are getting the same panels as what Sony is using in their QDOLEDs. So if that's true, you are drooling over a Sony A95L with some bells and whistles on it, and most importantly a PROPER STUDIO LEVEL CALIBRATION. EDIT: As I get further into this video I now see Flanders is touting a tetrahedral LUT ....the C2 and G2 LGs started doing this too. good grief. You need to redo this shoot but calibrate the damn LG professionally. You guys may be getting tricked. I have a feeling a $4000 LG G3 (G4 will for sure be a better option) that is properly calibrated will be almost identical to this Flanders. AND THEN, if you see a difference between them still, who is to say that the LG OLED isn't more accurate than the Flanders. Are you saying just because it has a larger price tag, its more accurate? With that theory, if Kia charged $90k for a suv, does that price automatically make it better quality than a Mercedes?
These are intended for preview of movies to tune the color balances for the theatrical release. That is a very exclusive market and in no small part is why they are so expensive.
I'm watching this video on my 250 USD MVA monitor from 2013 and I can confirm that I'm very satisfied by all these color differences and brightness halos on these 20000 USD TVs :)
I don't know if any one mentioned it, but @ 9:47 to 9:49, the Tree Bark seen on the XMP550 was MUCH clearer than the S95B. It was more noticeable around the top backside of his head,but the Grain definition depth is cleaner on this monitor. The difference to me was like night and day. Now i look again in still shot,the jaw area too shows lighter and more detail too. I am also viewing this @ 4K 30FPS on you tube on a ASUS PG32UQR 4K. Looks Amazing ! I've been hoping for Monitors to reach this level of Accuracy, per say to the Human Eye, without TOO much extravagance ! This Monitor comes close, you have to start somewhere ! It will only get better. That will be the eye poppers! Would I like to have it,YES. Can I afford it? NO ! Uncle left me at the bottom of the Hand-Out Line with Peas every Month ! 😓 Something like the XMP550 @ $20K is completely not within any possible reach on my budget. Even if it was $5K. FPGA's are nothing new,they are just creeping into this space now. They use this sort of tech in Engineering Procs so they can re-program them all the time on the Fly,so to speak. Another reason that makes FPGAs more expensive,more to it than that though. And they are faster than a cpu driven unit. Like everything,there are good and bad. Now if we can get some MORE NEW Mixes into the different screen technologies into the fray to help push us into in next Frontier,instead of same old same old. Looking at BATTERIES !! Don't get me started. I will end that note here. 😎
I like how the time stamp at 1:30 to skip past the ad still makes sure you get the last bit of it that sends you to the store with a discount code. I see what you did there. And I like it.
For the record my mom bought a 43” Pioneer Elite plasma tv for 10k at Ultimate Electronics back in 2004. Sure it wasn’t these kind of TVs but it’s insane how expensive it was.
Glad to see the E251 and E171 BVMs getting a quick shout out in the end. They remain the absolute best SDR HD (and, with some qualifications, SD) displays ever. If only these Flanders monitors had BFI for motion clarity on 60fps content they'd be seriously compelling. The HX3110 does have it as an option if you buy a license for it.
I always thought the directors of most movies has no idea how the finished product looks. Glad to see I was right. Their TV shows completely different to what their customers will watch it on
The dead pixel or like... improper response of the camera that was recording Linus and Brandon was super distracting at times! Thought my monitor popped a mini-led at first, because it's not on every shot. Very interesting, and makes me wonder how many other videos it is in where it hid in the brighter scenes
For something you spend upwards of 4+ hours looking at. If I had the money, I would buy it in a heartbeat. With all other OLED TVs, there is always a "cinematic" preset that makes it look awful. After applying it, I always thought this was what the creator wanted? The monitor is phenomonal. I have never seen something so perfect, and that's through a youtube video. Im real life it must me mezmorising.
Toss those movies into DaVinci Resolve and have the output via an IO device. If you’re using Mac or Windows, their color management alters the colors a bit, versus loading it into Resolve and getting the feed thru the IO Box, it’ll give you closer to the raw colors in the video file.
HEY I KNOW THIS!!! I once went with my colleague (We're both Spanish) to pick up 8 of these in Georgia. I walked in alone because he was having a cigarette outside. The old racist white dude at the counter told me "There's no loitering here boy" and to come back with my boss because this is worth more than "your kind" makes in a year :) Went outside and called my boss telling him exactly that and in 30 mins he was there causing hell, Needless to say, Old Yeller completely denied it to the point we had to call his manager to check the cameras just to confirm what he said or we won't be purchasing. Hope that snide comment was worth more than your job "boy" :)
I remember in the 80's (yes, I'm that old), I was at a friend's house. On their TV, they saw and advertisement for an expensive TV. His mom asked "why can't our TV look like that?" Think about it. Btw: Don't knock his mom. She was a great person.
Finally a great HDR showcase, LTT finally shot many of their videos in HDR, and they upload them in HDR, which is now becoming increasingly widespread in smartphones, tablets, oled monitors and TVs
A few thoughts... Firstly, you only glanced over the huge advantage of QDOLED- the lack of a white pixel for Brightness means that colours maintain saturation up to peak brightness. When using WOLED screens - like the LG - it's impossible to have a 1000 nit "Red" for example. The tv uses a combination of White and Red pixels to reach that 1000 nits, so the end result is less accurate. Second major point - It was clear that the LG and Samsung TV's hadn't been professionally calibrated. LG's have the ability to load a 10bit correction LUT for white balance, which ensures extremely accurate white balance, as well as loading a 3D LUT for the colours. When properly calibrated, the difference between the content would be dramatically less - when viewing "consumer" content, as opposed to test patterns.
NB - I actually have a HX310, a BVM, and a 77" LG sitting in my office, all of which were calibrated wth a Klein K10A - which itself was calibrated recently.
As a graphic designer, even I don't know how my colors are supposed to appear, I just use pantone swatch pallets and send them to the manufacturer and hope for the best.
I feel like this is one video where having the main version be an emulated HDR -> SDR one and then a separate true HDR one would've been well worth it. I'm just using an affordable ultrawide and even the things that aren't pointed out are just mostly invisible on my monitor, because while it has very accurate colors it does not do darkness very well
Hey idk if youve noticed but there is either dust or a dead pixel on one of your cameras. Some of the shots, you can see a white speckle around Brandons hair.
Odd that a Sony A95L wasn't used given that it's the best OLED and pretty much the best TV currently available on the consumer market. You'd think a direct comparison with that and the XMP550 would make the most sense. Especially since the A95L has a 55" model which is the same size as the XMP550.
The dead pixels on the camera sensor at 5:52 and 7:30 had me thinking my brand new (as of today) monitor had a dead pixel. (to the far right, a little above halfway up the frame)
14:16 *"This is the ability of the processor to interpret all the different little micro-steps of color..."* This is one of the many problems with the digital displays that have replaced CRT. A display isn't supposed to "interpret" anything --- it is supposed to _faithfully display the signal it receives._ The only goal of _reproduction_ is just that: to reproduce audio or video as accurately as possible, not to alter or intrepret, or "enhance" it.
You really need to like start testing a lot more TVs from cheap to mid to expensive because it would definitely help a lot of people to select their TVs of what’s good and what’s bad
I was watching this on a decent office monitor. Then i went and watched again on my S23 Ultra and there is a significant difference in everything. I knew there was gonna be a huge difference, but i rarely watch HDR content and it always amazes me when i do.
Linus is a great performer and speaker, possessing the ability to inspire belief and radiate a positive vibe in front of the camera. I never felt deceived.
Me watching this on a 1080 LCD non-HDR Display: Ah yes, I can see the difference
😂😂ikr. just kept watching
The legend
This guy is a goldmine of memeism
Same, except I thought the expensive display looked way worse. Mario looking pink, the strawberries very weird color. 😂😂😂
You're here 😅
Tiny 55 inch TV, you just called me poor in tech language.
Was going to say this, I thought my 23” monitors felt small let alone a 55” 😂
For real, My biggest tv in the house is 55 😂
When I read the words "tiny tv" i thought the video is about a 10 inch or smaller tv.
He almost aways does that in every video, you will get used 🥲
Who needs a bigger TV when you can install a go go gadget extendo mount
Ok either shaved linus is AI or they are REALLY ahead with these videos schedule.
I think its the former…
They are REALLY ahead
But some videos do get out faster than others. Im guessing this is one of those filler videos thats in the bank
They have two linuses, one shaved and one bearded. Shaved was imprisoned for a long time, but something happened and they released him
@@pritorchannel3698 lies
Probably, recorded earlier.. they record multiple videos and projects in a day after all.. to keep consistent uploads.. imagine 1 video per 2 months ☠️.. although that would make it Netflix level quality.. 😂
6:12 Linus: "Dirt's not orange!"
Aussies: "You've never been to Australia have you mate?"
Or Utah 😂
In Kenya, everything is red.
Or anywhere whit soil that has a lot of clay in it.
Or Mexico, according to Hollywood 🙄
Or North Carolina...
I sold high end television for years and even been taught by Lucasfilm and certified in THX technologies, just gonna say this is one of the best done videos I have ever seen ever to show the differences and why such an expensive television is worth it. Excellent job folks you did absolutely stellar work here
Yeah well what warrants it to be thousands more in cost
@@the_bridgesThey mentioned this in the video, the largest factor in the cost is the absence of off-the-shelf chips. Instead they're using FPGAs.
@@the_bridgesthey don’t cut any corners in production (not cost savings by using 3rd party components that are ultimately worse) and more importantly the target market is quite small, colorists in a professional setting. 20k for a color accurate monitor isn’t even that much more than the standard in these industries, if anything it’s right in line with a lot of professional grade equipment. Whether it’s a RED cinema camera (50k for a sensor), a hasselblad (20k sensor and used just for high detail studio photography), or whatever else it’s just a different kind of product. It isn’t for mass consumption because most of the benefits are irrelevant to most people. Color accuracy is great, but unless you are trained in the field/have a consumer product to directly compare it to a lot of people aren’t going to be able to tell. Same goes for speakers, headphones, monitors, camera lenses and sensors.
TLDR: expensive because it’s all self built and not many people will buy it, meaning the cost has to be higher to ensure it can continue to exist.
I don’t think this video shows “why such an expensive TV is worth it”
@@jaredliveson1764 On a consumer TV, even with all of the processing settings the manufacturer provides you turned off, the chips that decode and present the video are actually still doing some of their own and taking shortcuts wherever they can get away with it without negatively impacting the experience of actually watching media. The panels are also bright enough to display the vast majority of content, but not as bright as they could possibly be manufactured. These are cost-saving measures and the reason a consumer TV costs what it does.
The Flanders display gives you the raw signal and the best panel they can muster. It's not for consumers, it's for the professionals who do a film's color grading during production. It allows them to really dial in the exact changes they're making with the highest degree of accuracy. It's similar to how an audio mastering engineer does all their work on studio-grade headphones for the mixing process, before testing the result on everything from AirPods to car speakers to a smartphone.
It accomplishes this by forgoing the off-the-shelf chips from Mediatek, Samsung, LG, etc. and using FPGAs for everything. These integrated circuits are really expensive - because they can be reprogrammed as many times as you need. Flanders programs these to handle the same tasks as the off-the-shelf chips without the extra processing, and without having to fabricate their own custom chips.
I'm scared for the moment beard-less linus escapes hibernation... the end times are near
The beard-less It's coming...
Gets me every time... I'm afraid
3:12
Last few videos have had some unsettling, non scruffy segways to their sponsors.
We should all be afraid. The end is near.
6:12 "Dirt's not orange"
Lives in Australia, looks out window towards dirt.
Yup, it sure is orange, with a tinge of red too.
Australia doesn't exist.
Looks out window in UK to clay soil.... yup, dirt is orange
Erm, you may be in Mars? /s
But yeah, I can confirm clay is orange in Mexico too
your area is sponsored by LG
Oklahoma, USA is the same, maybe a tinge redder.
The attention to detail in this video is incredible, from the HDR display to the purposely dimmed website captures. Truly top-notch production!
@@bradhaines3142The Flanders scientific people were there... Doesn't get much more accurate than that.
@@bradhaines3142such as? They're steering a lot towards accuracy and they have been for a while now
@@techkidwhiz*biased - I wouldn't want to review a product with the manufacturer/marketer in the room lol
@@rileysimmons9886eh i mean this time its not like youre gonna buy a tv for 20k anyways
@@rileysimmons9886it's not the review of this product! It's a video to showcase cool tech. Nobody who is actually the target audience of this thing is going to make up their mind based on what linus has to say about it!!
Guy in my team used to work for a company that made display port KVMs for studios, they were basically display and audio pipelines implemented on FPGA. the amount of work that goes on to NOT add ‘corrections’ and have ‘what you see is what you get’ is wild.
For everyday users, a $250 option is more than enough. Understanding the high-end tech and appreciating its justification is a journey on its own.
The $250 option is terrible for even normal users. get a halfway decent TV.
The $250 option will be complete ass, I'm sorry to say. At least for something like a 55-inch TV, it will be a bottom-barrel panel with none of the bells and whistles. HDR? Nope. HDMI 2.1/high refresh rate/VRR? Nope. Color accuracy? In your dreams. You'll be lucky to get even the most basic local dimming.
You have clearly never actually seen a quantum dot display of any type. It is the biggest improvement in display since the colour CRT. It won the Nobel prize in physics for good reason.
You have clearly never actually seen an OLED display@@mycosys
Define "everyday users". Someone who watches movies everyday in their home room theater for example is also considered an everyday user but would most certainly NOT consider a $250 tv to "more then enough". The only people who would accept that kind of tv are going to be those who have never tried anything better OR people who can't afford better.
When he said “the Samsung is more pleasing to my eye” I think it summed a lot of this up really well. For nearly everyone, and nearly all content, how it’s “supposed” to look matters far less than if looks the way the watcher wants.
Same for audio, studio monitors aren't always the best experience even though they may be more accurate. People like 'colour' in their audio, not usually the more flat audio experience.
yeah, this is a neat review in terms of geek factor but, watching this review on my 1440p IPS monitor, it's like, who cares - I'm not buying it, i'll never know the difference and literally none of the displays I'll ever watch content on will have this accuracy. you really have to wonder what the point is. I guess cinema displays - projectors or IMAX - but what % of professional content/cinema consumers actually view via those channels these days? everyone's streaming on their sh-tbox 4k budget TV or monitor these days
Same with audio. F.e. a lot of people are critical of Sony dynamically tuning the 1000X-series. But in the past they had the 1R-series that was tuned more neutral, and people didn't buy it. I would say that even people who say they like neutral sound do in fact not like it.
The TV manufacturers did their research and know what people like, even better than the people themselves who often don't like the cinema-settings or film-maker mode (which still isn't as accurate as what a monitor like this XMP550 or the Sony, Trimaster series and probably a compromise between producers and experts from the part taking manufacturers) but when they get used to it, they do.
And this is the problem. The general public is not very "bright" catering to this just ruins everything for the rest of us.
@@JFat5158 Preach. Tried Genelecs for a while years ago, and while they were amazing, they just lacked all the pizzazz, had to change to passives for that fun sound.
Pulling from the labs crew for more in-depth details is incredible! The added insight the labs members have on more specific/niche tech is a critical touch
Did anyone else panic and thought they had a dead pixel whenever Linus and Brandon are both on the screen?
xD yes, me! Was just checking that out. I was starting to think my screen had a dead pixel but I noticed it wasn't present in other shots or when moving a window over it.
Oyeah almost had an heart attack
Yep came here to see if anyone else saw this
Maaaaaaybeeee ... Lol
YES
I only just started watching this video and instantly noticed it was in HDR. Thank you LTT and keep up the good work!
This video made me question if I had a dead pixel on my monitor...
Every time the camera went to Linus and Brandon, there was a single white dot on the screen in the exact same place every time.
What really got me was the low light quality of their camera while they're in shadow too. No idea why the white pixel was showing up, maybe some post processing error?
@@chalion8399even in HDR 4K I had the same issue here
Was just about to comment this, the one dead pixel in Brandon's hair was driving me mad
I had a similar experience. They made me think my screen was broken.
@@chalion8399 When you crank the ISO of most cameras there are always pixels that end up showing up 'bright', even after a black frame calibration it just seems to be the way cameras are. I know most LTT videos are shot on FX6s which are pretty good with low light, but even so this video looked to be shot in the 100,000 ISO range which is cranking it by any definition.
I always appreciate the videos where they show us differences in screens and audio quality and I'm watching on my 8 year old computer monitor with built in 3w speakers.
Probably 99% of people.
I have a three monitor setup with three different monitors (not used concurrently, two are side-by-side with one made for color-accurate editing while the third is on an arm in front of my gaming couch) and I enjoyed watching this on all three at the same time and seeing the differences, and then knowing that I'll never really know the real difference because this was all filmed. Maybe I need to get a Flanders for my fourth monitor :P
watching this on an iphone 7 🎉
I'm watching on my pixel 6a
I love it when you review pro gear. I'm a 20+ year broadcast video engineer. I always love having the Sony OLED Trimasters, but these Flanders Sci monitors are looking good too. Also a note colorist Cullen Kelly recommends the LG C3 43" as a budget option for a reference monitor. (You still need to professionally calibrate it.)
The fact that they didn't even talk about calibrating the consumer displays is a bit worrisome...
How difficult is it to professionally calibrate it?
@@Daithi_mk you need test gear (colorimeter, spectrophotometer, some reliable signal generator) and knowledge of the TV calibration menu and the workflow to get reliable results.
It shouldn't be more than a few hundred if you have a local calibration tech and that person is not too busy.
@@Daithi_mk It’s not to difficult you just need to get a calibration kit that can handle the tv and your production requirements. Then follow the instructions that come with the tv and calibration kit. Just look up display calibration kit on google for different options just be aware that some of the more capable ones are expensive!
MOM: Beard-less Linus isn't real. He can't hurt you❤
Beard-less Linus:HETZNER！！！
**Lorax Voice** Thats a LINUX??????
ur not an og are ya? that used to be linus
@destroyer99612 lol just joking, been watching Linus since 2011
When I've seen this, I wondered if that's some old footage.
Hetzner is not a trustworthy company, look at their history they are laden with criminal activity
I just want to take a moment to appreciate the LTT team for dealing with YT's wack processing and making sure these videos are available in 4k and everything else it is seriously so nice
..to feed you an ad for a20k tv. kay
I hope this does well because I absolutely love comparisons of high grade enterprise/mastering/EXTREMELY non consumer devices to consumer devices and in a lot of cases, the gap is closing. So it's always super interesting.
tbh the samsung is extremly bad here, thats more than a "gap"
7:25 Right after he says "picking at" there is a cut. My heart sank for a split second as I thought I had dead pixels.
Right side of Brandon's Hair and way off to the right of Linus' head lol
bruh, i freaked out too
I stopped the video right away and jumped to another tab to check for dead pixels. Phew!!!
I wiped my screen and it went away and thought it was me lmao
that dead pixel on their camera bout gave me a heart attack.
same just bought this G9 like 2 months ago almost cried
Bearded Linus and not Bearded Linus in the same video? Amazing!
only the fake Linus has real tattoo on his #monetizeda$$
The Linus we need AND deserve!
Its a God damn "Prestige." This whole "tech channel" has been a CIA psyop directed by Christopher Nolan since day one.
It's Schrödinger's Linus !
i love this new method of throwing linus in a part of the scene to fill in the viewer with more info and tidbits, idk if it was cause you guys left it out of the script or not but that is very smooth and i wouldnt know if thats fixing a mistake or just a bit either way, loving the progress keep things like this up guys good work
The phrase "memory colors" immediately hit in a way that helped me understand why "reference" footage versus various display processing magic. If you're looking at something for which you have no frame of reference, it could look like anything at all and you will just accept it. If you're looking at something that your brain has an immediate reference for, differences stand out. But, as with all content, color matching is only as good as the palette designed by the color editor. Whatever was filmed by the camera will never be seen by the end user regardless of display; it goes through myriad filters and adjustments that (presumably) have taken into consideration it will be played back on a variety of displays.
HDR is amazing and i am all there for it! Thanks for uploading this in HDR.
HDR content is great wish more content on youtube was HDR👍
the white pixel at 8:21 - 8:25 freaked me out, i just got new monitors and i was scared that i already got a dead pixel
xDDD, i just got a new monitor too, but i saw teh comments beforehand :D
6:10 Samsung S95B is 2022 and filmmaker mode has issues.(first year for Samsung with QDOLED)
Filmmaker mode is much better with the 2023 S95C sets. Panasonic has the best OLED with out of the box accuracy(better shadow detail) but they dont sell them in the U.S/Canada anymore.
If you want dead on accuracy you need to hire a ISF calibrator to calibrate the set. You could calibrate these sets to be much closer to the Flanders....especially if they were using current gen OLED like the MLA from LG and the newer Samsung sets.
I have an S95C and noticed a big difference once I calibrated the display vs in filmmaker mode. 2023 Filmmaker mode is objectionably better than the 2022 version but it still has issues.
Would you suggest using film maker mode or the smart calibration feature to get the more accurate picture?
LTT has done many display videos in the past, and I'm happy to say this is the first (in my memory of watching LTT) that matches HDTVTest in terms of technical level.
I have a 65” OLED LG G3, it’s been an eye opener from my old Non HDR LCD Panasonic 55”
This reminds me of when I was working a job at the Sony Store in the Galleria Mall in Dallas TX circa 2007, when Sony released the XEL-1: the world's first OLED Television. The screen was tiny, at only 11 inches diagonal, and it cost $2,500. Crazy how far we've come since then!
That was the TV I thought of when reading the video title, saw it at a Sony store when went to a GDC convention in 2008. Really left an impression at the time.
This brought back memories of reviewing video output on a studio monitor. It was an old Sony CRT model, and only a grade 2 device, but the quality that it picked up and showed was tremendous. It was well worth it compared to any other display we tried by comparison, and that's before all the useful features such as a proper visual overscan display, colour masking and anything else available was used.
I love how these days a 55" tv is 'tiny'
The smallest "tv" size, smaller than that are meant for desktop
@kiisseli1337 dude I remember when a 28" crt tv was massive
@@kiisseli1337 idk what you are on, anything bigger than 32 inches is a television.
10:45 TCL is actually one of the few mass-market TV OEMs which is vertically integrated, including in the chips.
This is quite impressive as they have budget-friendly offerings.
Hence, I typically assume that they see it as not a part of their core business.
Which is especially strange, given that the chip is something which can make or break a TV.
Moreover, Samsung has a branch which designs and manufacturers chips.
The LG OLED is a pretty standard “client” monitor alongside a colorist’s Flanders (or equivalent) just for anyone curious. Of course, proper pipeline, and paying a tech to professionally calibrate it still apply.
That 1 white pixel when on Brandon and Linus scene make me think i have a frozen pixel on my display -.-
I find it funny that for Linus a 55 inch TV is "tiny"
I hope it's a joke because if not it's very out of touch
For 20k it is
@@scorch527 it costs $20K and is meant for professional applications...
It’s all relative. I’d say 55” is the absolute minimum for most living rooms, as you’re probably sitting at least 9 feet from it.
@@scorch527 jfc, its not a joke, it's juxtaposing the insane price point with the RELATIVELY-COMPARED-TO-THE-INSANE-PRICE-POINT tiny size, to pique interest about what else might be the reason for the price point. You know, they talk about you (People who call him out of touch because they fail to comprehend very basic communication) sometimes on the wan show, check it out some time.
The camera filming Brandon and Linus show a white stuck pixel located mostly in the hairs of Brandon. Anyone noticed ?
Yep. A few weeks ago (about a month now), I noticed the same pixel in another video.
you can really see it when it zooms in on linus at 13:31
Surgical monitors are very similar and they are fantastic monitors. Even going back to CRTs, these "broadcast" and medical monitors are far superior to what the normal person would get at home.
You can at least get those surplus rather inexpensively. They are excellent to use with a microscope camera. ❤
i kinda wish they had the flanders guys be interviewed, its always a ton of fun seeing people who are passionate about their specific field break it down in detail
Watching this in HDR on an M3 Max MacBook Pro display was awesome. Some of those scenes seared my eyeballs right out. Probably the best HDR video I've seen so far (that actually had content worth consuming and wasn't just a tech showcase)
17:00
i mean, if someone wanted to make the best projector...
separate lasers and dlp chips for each laser.
i dont care if i have to hand calibrate it.
Who’s that guy at 1:21?!? 😨
Flanders Scientific who happened to be in the neighborhood huh? So not only does he pray for God now, he also makes reference TVs
Seeing Hetzner Ads on LTT while being Hetzner customer since years, both in our company as well as for my private stuff. Feels good to have such a great, local sponsor on this channel.
They ask for driver’s license to sign up
@@techbulb3440 Dont know how it is in other countries, but in Germany they only require payment information, which is kinda obvious though.
I remember back in the early days of FSI (mid 2000's) when they came by our shop to demo their first monitors. At the time they were more the less expensive version of the higher end monitors (like sony, dolby, etc). They brought a klein color sensor as well. It was an interesting demo, but hard to beat our CRTs at the time (blacks especially of course, we had large widescreen sony CRTs BVM-D32 I think.) Fun to see them rise to the top!
6:03 if you use filmmaker mode on Samsung TV you are basically watching content through lightly applied sepia filter so it doesn't surprise me that you would complain about color accuracy
Finally something I can watch my VHS on.
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Just change the contrast to 47 that's what I had to do with my lg also bring down the gama a bit resorts in a pretty big difference I would also bring down saturation vibrance down one or two points
This actually makes me want to buy this TV. The trees in the first scene just look so realistic. This also made me realize when I dont like LG TVs, their picture is always too cool looking where the warmer samsung looks better to me
From about 6:15 there's a dead pixel on your camera or some other anomaly when facing both you guys, i panicked thinking my 2 week old qled was imperfect but it's definitely there.
@8:50 the invention of a new word...Differenter...
I have tried a lot of different OLED TV's. By far, my favorite TV i have seen is the one i own. The LG C2 (and hopefully soon the C3). Not only is it amazing for watching movies, but gaming in 4K 120fps with gsync on my 4070 ti super / 7800x3d PC build really takes advantage of what the LG C2 has to offer. I went with the 42" and got it open box, but brand new, for $700. From PC, to PS5, to watching movies and shows, i truly belive it is the best tv you can get for its cost.
So hard to appreciate through a notfilmmaker grade monitor, though youTube video compression.
I assume the Flanders arrived for review after being perfectly calibrating using $15k worth of colorimeters and Spectroradiometers. Can the same be said for the Samsung and the LG? unless they were all calibrated using the same gear and software, isn't this test sorta a waste of time to compare? I work in professional content creation and filmmaker mode out of the box isn't anything I would rely on. We run the monitor through calman studio with proper gear. Everyone can drool over Flanders, but perhaps its not the screen that's so beautiful, but instead the perfect calibration you are seeing. Years ago, rumor on the street was that their XM series OLEDs were $17k screens that were using THE SAME internal LG panels, but Flanders threw on some SDI ports , added internal LUT processing, added easy colorspace switching , but it in a custom branded chassis, and jacked the price from $3000 (consumer LG) to $17,000. So before everyone starts getting too excited about these Flanders, we should be asking once again where they are getting these panels internally. I can only assume they are getting the same panels as what Sony is using in their QDOLEDs. So if that's true, you are drooling over a Sony A95L with some bells and whistles on it, and most importantly a PROPER STUDIO LEVEL CALIBRATION.
EDIT: As I get further into this video I now see Flanders is touting a tetrahedral LUT ....the C2 and G2 LGs started doing this too. good grief. You need to redo this shoot but calibrate the damn LG professionally. You guys may be getting tricked. I have a feeling a $4000 LG G3 (G4 will for sure be a better option) that is properly calibrated will be almost identical to this Flanders. AND THEN, if you see a difference between them still, who is to say that the LG OLED isn't more accurate than the Flanders. Are you saying just because it has a larger price tag, its more accurate? With that theory, if Kia charged $90k for a suv, does that price automatically make it better quality than a Mercedes?
That dead pixel on one of your cameras is very noticeable. It had me worried thinking my TV had a dead pixel.
Nope but hopefully they see that one of their cameras have a dead pixel.
These are intended for preview of movies to tune the color balances for the theatrical release. That is a very exclusive market and in no small part is why they are so expensive.
I'm watching this video on my 250 USD MVA monitor from 2013 and I can confirm that I'm very satisfied by all these color differences and brightness halos on these 20000 USD TVs :)
Watching on my LG OLED and it makes the G2 almost always look better
I don't know if any one mentioned it, but @ 9:47 to 9:49, the Tree Bark seen on the XMP550 was MUCH clearer than the S95B. It was more noticeable around the top backside of his head,but the Grain definition depth is cleaner on this monitor. The difference to me was like night and day. Now i look again in still shot,the jaw area too shows lighter and more detail too.
I am also viewing this @ 4K 30FPS on you tube on a ASUS PG32UQR 4K. Looks Amazing !
I've been hoping for Monitors to reach this level of Accuracy, per say to the Human Eye, without TOO much extravagance ! This Monitor comes close, you have to start somewhere ! It will only get better. That will be the eye poppers!
Would I like to have it,YES. Can I afford it? NO ! Uncle left me at the bottom of the Hand-Out Line with Peas every Month ! 😓
Something like the XMP550 @ $20K is completely not within any possible reach on my budget. Even if it was $5K. FPGA's are nothing new,they are just creeping into this space now. They use this sort of tech in Engineering Procs so they can re-program them all the time on the Fly,so to speak. Another reason that makes FPGAs more expensive,more to it than that though. And they are faster than a cpu driven unit. Like everything,there are good and bad. Now if we can get some MORE NEW Mixes into the different screen technologies into the fray to help push us into in next Frontier,instead of same old same old. Looking at BATTERIES !! Don't get me started. I will end that note here. 😎
Is that a dead pixel, upper middle left, on the 3/4 shot?
Also the chick turning to the camera at 15:28 proper spooked me.
I’m still rocking a Panasonic VT plasma. No need to change.
I like how the time stamp at 1:30 to skip past the ad still makes sure you get the last bit of it that sends you to the store with a discount code. I see what you did there. And I like it.
Currently running 2x LG 27GL83A-B 27" QHD IPS 1ms NVIDIA G-SYNC. Interesting video.
For the record my mom bought a 43” Pioneer Elite plasma tv for 10k at Ultimate Electronics back in 2004. Sure it wasn’t these kind of TVs but it’s insane how expensive it was.
Glad to see the E251 and E171 BVMs getting a quick shout out in the end. They remain the absolute best SDR HD (and, with some qualifications, SD) displays ever. If only these Flanders monitors had BFI for motion clarity on 60fps content they'd be seriously compelling. The HX3110 does have it as an option if you buy a license for it.
I always thought the directors of most movies has no idea how the finished product looks. Glad to see I was right. Their TV shows completely different to what their customers will watch it on
at 7:29 that one pixel in the guys hair scared the crap out of me i thought my monitor had a dead one lol
Now do a blind test where you cover up every tv's stand and borders and then let's see if you can tell which one is the $20,000 one 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The dead pixel or like... improper response of the camera that was recording Linus and Brandon was super distracting at times! Thought my monitor popped a mini-led at first, because it's not on every shot. Very interesting, and makes me wonder how many other videos it is in where it hid in the brighter scenes
For something you spend upwards of 4+ hours looking at. If I had the money, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
With all other OLED TVs, there is always a "cinematic" preset that makes it look awful. After applying it, I always thought this was what the creator wanted?
The monitor is phenomonal. I have never seen something so perfect, and that's through a youtube video. Im real life it must me mezmorising.
Toss those movies into DaVinci Resolve and have the output via an IO device. If you’re using Mac or Windows, their color management alters the colors a bit, versus loading it into Resolve and getting the feed thru the IO Box, it’ll give you closer to the raw colors in the video file.
HEY I KNOW THIS!!! I once went with my colleague (We're both Spanish) to pick up 8 of these in Georgia. I walked in alone because he was having a cigarette outside. The old racist white dude at the counter told me "There's no loitering here boy" and to come back with my boss because this is worth more than "your kind" makes in a year :) Went outside and called my boss telling him exactly that and in 30 mins he was there causing hell, Needless to say, Old Yeller completely denied it to the point we had to call his manager to check the cameras just to confirm what he said or we won't be purchasing. Hope that snide comment was worth more than your job "boy" :)
Sure
This is a great video! Only thing is I wish that instead of the LG they could've used the Sony A95L to also compare the very best TV in the market
I remember in the 80's (yes, I'm that old), I was at a friend's house. On their TV, they saw and advertisement for an expensive TV. His mom asked "why can't our TV look like that?"
Think about it. Btw: Don't knock his mom. She was a great person.
Finally a great HDR showcase, LTT finally shot many of their videos in HDR, and they upload them in HDR, which is now becoming increasingly widespread in smartphones, tablets, oled monitors and TVs
Love how they sound like the two other TV's are actually horrible, when, in fact, they are quite alright
A few thoughts... Firstly, you only glanced over the huge advantage of QDOLED- the lack of a white pixel for Brightness means that colours maintain saturation up to peak brightness. When using WOLED screens - like the LG - it's impossible to have a 1000 nit "Red" for example. The tv uses a combination of White and Red pixels to reach that 1000 nits, so the end result is less accurate. Second major point - It was clear that the LG and Samsung TV's hadn't been professionally calibrated. LG's have the ability to load a 10bit correction LUT for white balance, which ensures extremely accurate white balance, as well as loading a 3D LUT for the colours. When properly calibrated, the difference between the content would be dramatically less - when viewing "consumer" content, as opposed to test patterns.
NB - I actually have a HX310, a BVM, and a 77" LG sitting in my office, all of which were calibrated wth a Klein K10A - which itself was calibrated recently.
As a graphic designer, even I don't know how my colors are supposed to appear, I just use pantone swatch pallets and send them to the manufacturer and hope for the best.
That's pretty impressive, even being colourblind I could tell a noticeable difference
Use these at work all the time. Installed in all our work spaces, and on mobile carts. Go pro or get fired.
Good thing the company pays for them.
Linus: "why would anybody buy a 55" TV for 20k?"
US Government: "hold my beer"
I feel like this is one video where having the main version be an emulated HDR -> SDR one and then a separate true HDR one would've been well worth it. I'm just using an affordable ultrawide and even the things that aren't pointed out are just mostly invisible on my monitor, because while it has very accurate colors it does not do darkness very well
Hey idk if youve noticed but there is either dust or a dead pixel on one of your cameras. Some of the shots, you can see a white speckle around Brandons hair.
Odd that a Sony A95L wasn't used given that it's the best OLED and pretty much the best TV currently available on the consumer market. You'd think a direct comparison with that and the XMP550 would make the most sense. Especially since the A95L has a 55" model which is the same size as the XMP550.
Also mfw just purchased a 42" A90K for my bedroom and Linus calls a 55" tiny.
Love this and would love to see more content focused on SDI/Professional broadcasting and filmmaking equipment!
The dead pixels on the camera sensor at 5:52 and 7:30 had me thinking my brand new (as of today) monitor had a dead pixel. (to the far right, a little above halfway up the frame)
3:35 "to our human eyes"
my eyes have the same effect as those two displays.
14:16 *"This is the ability of the processor to interpret all the different little micro-steps of color..."*
This is one of the many problems with the digital displays that have replaced CRT. A display isn't supposed to "interpret" anything --- it is supposed to _faithfully display the signal it receives._
The only goal of _reproduction_ is just that: to reproduce audio or video as accurately as possible, not to alter or intrepret, or "enhance" it.
You really need to like start testing a lot more TVs from cheap to mid to expensive because it would definitely help a lot of people to select their TVs of what’s good and what’s bad
The undertaking of a new action brings new strength.
Me: Clicks to see what’s up even though I’ve got to get back to work
Also me: Dudes voice still sounds like a dying goat 😅
I was watching this on a decent office monitor.
Then i went and watched again on my S23 Ultra and there is a significant difference in everything.
I knew there was gonna be a huge difference, but i rarely watch HDR content and it always amazes me when i do.
Linus is a great performer and speaker, possessing the ability to inspire belief and radiate a positive vibe in front of the camera. I never felt deceived.
Was extra enjoyable to watch this HDR video on my Aorus FO48U with HDR on. Super rare on RUclips. 😊
can we appreciate how they setup the video sections to make people who skip the ad get talked to personally lmao
Worth to mention that Flanders monitors have a lifetime color calibration. You can send your monitor and they will celebrate it for you.
As an LG Oled owner, I see this as an absolute win
8:21
I thought it was a dead pixel on my screen
Flanders Scientific Mario : Oh come on princess!!
I fought all those monsters to save you and now you don't want to put out!?
As a broadcast engineer, as soon as i saw FLANDERS on the screen, i've moved to another video. 22 minutes of life saved.
Thanks for coming back to write this comment 😊
@@mramus497 hehe, no, i paused to write the comment before leaving :) but yeah, now i came back.