This TINY TV Costs $20,000 - Flanders Scientific XMP550

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @NikTek
    @NikTek 10 месяцев назад +2425

    Me watching this on a 1080 LCD non-HDR Display: Ah yes, I can see the difference

    • @abdulkadiraminu262
      @abdulkadiraminu262 10 месяцев назад +35

      😂😂ikr. just kept watching

    • @AMabud-lv7hy
      @AMabud-lv7hy 10 месяцев назад +13

      The legend

    • @Nepoxification
      @Nepoxification 10 месяцев назад +17

      This guy is a goldmine of memeism

    • @Miliexy
      @Miliexy 10 месяцев назад +17

      Same, except I thought the expensive display looked way worse. Mario looking pink, the strawberries very weird color. 😂😂😂

    • @iftekharahmed7303
      @iftekharahmed7303 10 месяцев назад +1

      You're here 😅

  • @azured909
    @azured909 10 месяцев назад +1475

    Tiny 55 inch TV, you just called me poor in tech language.

    • @oiiinah6021
      @oiiinah6021 10 месяцев назад +21

      Was going to say this, I thought my 23” monitors felt small let alone a 55” 😂

    • @headaega
      @headaega 10 месяцев назад +28

      When I read the words "tiny tv" i thought the video is about a 10 inch or smaller tv.

    • @andward1285
      @andward1285 10 месяцев назад +2

      He almost aways does that in every video, you will get used 🥲

    • @GregtheAwesomeNinja
      @GregtheAwesomeNinja 10 месяцев назад +3

      Who needs a bigger TV when you can install a go go gadget extendo mount

    • @azured909
      @azured909 10 месяцев назад

      @user-kh9wt9qz2uI already have a 55 inch TV because it’s the best size for gaming, that was not the point, mister I am rich but you’re probably not. Also at $200 you can throw that 55 Walmart brand TV out the window, it has the lowest quality panel ever. I am not even going to go into details that make it trash, because you probably can’t tell. You are one of those people that just use factory settings.

  • @matroixtv
    @matroixtv 10 месяцев назад +2474

    Ok either shaved linus is AI or they are REALLY ahead with these videos schedule.

    • @Me-0063
      @Me-0063 10 месяцев назад +76

      I think its the former…

    • @ponkotuu
      @ponkotuu 10 месяцев назад +281

      They are REALLY ahead
      But some videos do get out faster than others. Im guessing this is one of those filler videos thats in the bank

    • @pritorchannel3698
      @pritorchannel3698 10 месяцев назад +283

      They have two linuses, one shaved and one bearded. Shaved was imprisoned for a long time, but something happened and they released him

    • @CanadianBakin42O
      @CanadianBakin42O 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@pritorchannel3698 lies

    • @suryakamalnd9888
      @suryakamalnd9888 10 месяцев назад +21

      Probably, recorded earlier.. they record multiple videos and projects in a day after all.. to keep consistent uploads.. imagine 1 video per 2 months ☠️.. although that would make it Netflix level quality.. 😂

  • @JimParshall
    @JimParshall 10 месяцев назад +428

    I sold high end television for years and even been taught by Lucasfilm and certified in THX technologies, just gonna say this is one of the best done videos I have ever seen ever to show the differences and why such an expensive television is worth it. Excellent job folks you did absolutely stellar work here

    • @oldebrycgsherpa
      @oldebrycgsherpa 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah well what warrants it to be thousands more in cost

    • @alphabitserial
      @alphabitserial 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@oldebrycgsherpaThey mentioned this in the video, the largest factor in the cost is the absence of off-the-shelf chips. Instead they're using FPGAs.

    • @solkvist8668
      @solkvist8668 10 месяцев назад +16

      @@oldebrycgsherpathey don’t cut any corners in production (not cost savings by using 3rd party components that are ultimately worse) and more importantly the target market is quite small, colorists in a professional setting. 20k for a color accurate monitor isn’t even that much more than the standard in these industries, if anything it’s right in line with a lot of professional grade equipment. Whether it’s a RED cinema camera (50k for a sensor), a hasselblad (20k sensor and used just for high detail studio photography), or whatever else it’s just a different kind of product. It isn’t for mass consumption because most of the benefits are irrelevant to most people. Color accuracy is great, but unless you are trained in the field/have a consumer product to directly compare it to a lot of people aren’t going to be able to tell. Same goes for speakers, headphones, monitors, camera lenses and sensors.
      TLDR: expensive because it’s all self built and not many people will buy it, meaning the cost has to be higher to ensure it can continue to exist.

    • @jaredliveson1764
      @jaredliveson1764 9 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t think this video shows “why such an expensive TV is worth it”

    • @alphabitserial
      @alphabitserial 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@jaredliveson1764 On a consumer TV, even with all of the processing settings the manufacturer provides you turned off, the chips that decode and present the video are actually still doing some of their own and taking shortcuts wherever they can get away with it without negatively impacting the experience of actually watching media. The panels are also bright enough to display the vast majority of content, but not as bright as they could possibly be manufactured. These are cost-saving measures and the reason a consumer TV costs what it does.
      The Flanders display gives you the raw signal and the best panel they can muster. It's not for consumers, it's for the professionals who do a film's color grading during production. It allows them to really dial in the exact changes they're making with the highest degree of accuracy. It's similar to how an audio mastering engineer does all their work on studio-grade headphones for the mixing process, before testing the result on everything from AirPods to car speakers to a smartphone.
      It accomplishes this by forgoing the off-the-shelf chips from Mediatek, Samsung, LG, etc. and using FPGAs for everything. These integrated circuits are really expensive - because they can be reprogrammed as many times as you need. Flanders programs these to handle the same tasks as the off-the-shelf chips without the extra processing, and without having to fabricate their own custom chips.

  • @countbowl
    @countbowl 10 месяцев назад +67

    Guy in my team used to work for a company that made display port KVMs for studios, they were basically display and audio pipelines implemented on FPGA. the amount of work that goes on to NOT add ‘corrections’ and have ‘what you see is what you get’ is wild.

  • @loganhutchersonhutcherson4431
    @loganhutchersonhutcherson4431 10 месяцев назад +2544

    I'm scared for the moment beard-less linus escapes hibernation... the end times are near

    • @joseramos2328
      @joseramos2328 10 месяцев назад +44

      The beard-less It's coming...

    • @maicogee3029
      @maicogee3029 10 месяцев назад +14

      Gets me every time... I'm afraid

    • @DeathPerMinute
      @DeathPerMinute 10 месяцев назад +15

      3:12

    • @batterypwrlow
      @batterypwrlow 10 месяцев назад +12

      Last few videos have had some unsettling, non scruffy segways to their sponsors.

    • @Triro
      @Triro 10 месяцев назад +4

      We should all be afraid. The end is near.

  • @SunnyZ
    @SunnyZ 10 месяцев назад +977

    6:12 "Dirt's not orange"
    Lives in Australia, looks out window towards dirt.
    Yup, it sure is orange, with a tinge of red too.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 10 месяцев назад

      Australia doesn't exist.

    • @randomjimmystuff9862
      @randomjimmystuff9862 10 месяцев назад +76

      Looks out window in UK to clay soil.... yup, dirt is orange

    • @LPR44
      @LPR44 10 месяцев назад +47

      Erm, you may be in Mars? /s
      But yeah, I can confirm clay is orange in Mexico too

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust 10 месяцев назад +61

      your area is sponsored by LG

    • @carltonhealy9457
      @carltonhealy9457 10 месяцев назад +11

      Oklahoma, USA is the same, maybe a tinge redder.

  • @BlueWaffle3
    @BlueWaffle3 10 месяцев назад +285

    Its videos like this that made me fall in love with Ltt. Detailed without being overwhelming and showing us tech that day to day users never think about. Love it

    • @LinusTechTips
      @LinusTechTips  10 месяцев назад +86

      Glad you liked it!

    • @InsightfulUndercurrents
      @InsightfulUndercurrents 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@LinusTechTipsthe camera on Linus during the testing has a dead pixel 😂😂😂😂

    • @OfficialDaveChannel
      @OfficialDaveChannel 10 месяцев назад

      @@InsightfulUndercurrentsi got so scared

    • @Lydown1825
      @Lydown1825 10 месяцев назад

      yep, 12:54 middle of screen slightly up@@InsightfulUndercurrents

    • @Lydown1825
      @Lydown1825 10 месяцев назад +6

      12:54 14:06 @@LinusTechTips

  • @gh8447
    @gh8447 10 месяцев назад +841

    6:12 Linus: "Dirt's not orange!"
    Aussies: "You've never been to Australia have you mate?"

    • @oof4dayz
      @oof4dayz 10 месяцев назад +28

      Or Utah 😂

    • @Eratas1
      @Eratas1 10 месяцев назад +24

      In Kenya, everything is red.

    • @Lorenzo_G_C
      @Lorenzo_G_C 10 месяцев назад +23

      Or anywhere whit soil that has a lot of clay in it.

    • @DanielMelendrezPhD
      @DanielMelendrezPhD 10 месяцев назад +17

      Or Mexico, according to Hollywood 🙄

    • @GoodMortySmith
      @GoodMortySmith 10 месяцев назад +2

      Or North Carolina...

  • @ReinR
    @ReinR 10 месяцев назад +29

    I only just started watching this video and instantly noticed it was in HDR. Thank you LTT and keep up the good work!

  • @dealforbet8888
    @dealforbet8888 10 месяцев назад +1227

    The attention to detail in this video is incredible, from the HDR display to the purposely dimmed website captures. Truly top-notch production!

    • @techkidwhiz
      @techkidwhiz 10 месяцев назад +128

      ​@@bradhaines3142The Flanders scientific people were there... Doesn't get much more accurate than that.

    • @FAB1150
      @FAB1150 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@bradhaines3142such as? They're steering a lot towards accuracy and they have been for a while now

    • @rileysimmons9886
      @rileysimmons9886 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@techkidwhiz*biased - I wouldn't want to review a product with the manufacturer/marketer in the room lol

    • @stuart2642
      @stuart2642 10 месяцев назад +65

      ​@@rileysimmons9886eh i mean this time its not like youre gonna buy a tv for 20k anyways

    • @jamesjamey8596
      @jamesjamey8596 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@rileysimmons9886it's not the review of this product! It's a video to showcase cool tech. Nobody who is actually the target audience of this thing is going to make up their mind based on what linus has to say about it!!

  • @_GeekyDad_
    @_GeekyDad_ 10 месяцев назад +956

    Did anyone else panic and thought they had a dead pixel whenever Linus and Brandon are both on the screen?

    • @Chopancho93
      @Chopancho93 10 месяцев назад +41

      xD yes, me! Was just checking that out. I was starting to think my screen had a dead pixel but I noticed it wasn't present in other shots or when moving a window over it.

    • @VonFoughman
      @VonFoughman 10 месяцев назад +26

      Oyeah almost had an heart attack

    • @VincentsCache
      @VincentsCache 10 месяцев назад +11

      Yep came here to see if anyone else saw this

    • @superkamizack2
      @superkamizack2 10 месяцев назад

      Maaaaaaybeeee ... Lol

    • @notavailablenam
      @notavailablenam 10 месяцев назад +3

      YES

  • @Huebz
    @Huebz 10 месяцев назад +994

    When he said “the Samsung is more pleasing to my eye” I think it summed a lot of this up really well. For nearly everyone, and nearly all content, how it’s “supposed” to look matters far less than if looks the way the watcher wants.

    • @JFat5158
      @JFat5158 10 месяцев назад +115

      Same for audio, studio monitors aren't always the best experience even though they may be more accurate. People like 'colour' in their audio, not usually the more flat audio experience.

    • @jackmiller8851
      @jackmiller8851 10 месяцев назад +26

      yeah, this is a neat review in terms of geek factor but, watching this review on my 1440p IPS monitor, it's like, who cares - I'm not buying it, i'll never know the difference and literally none of the displays I'll ever watch content on will have this accuracy. you really have to wonder what the point is. I guess cinema displays - projectors or IMAX - but what % of professional content/cinema consumers actually view via those channels these days? everyone's streaming on their sh-tbox 4k budget TV or monitor these days

    • @djoetma
      @djoetma 10 месяцев назад +11

      Same with audio. F.e. a lot of people are critical of Sony dynamically tuning the 1000X-series. But in the past they had the 1R-series that was tuned more neutral, and people didn't buy it. I would say that even people who say they like neutral sound do in fact not like it.
      The TV manufacturers did their research and know what people like, even better than the people themselves who often don't like the cinema-settings or film-maker mode (which still isn't as accurate as what a monitor like this XMP550 or the Sony, Trimaster series and probably a compromise between producers and experts from the part taking manufacturers) but when they get used to it, they do.

    • @leksasdf
      @leksasdf 10 месяцев назад

      @@JFat5158 Preach. Tried Genelecs for a while years ago, and while they were amazing, they just lacked all the pizzazz, had to change to passives for that fun sound.

    • @0NeeN0
      @0NeeN0 10 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah, but it wouldn't be pleasing to the eye if it was colour and soundmaster on $2k 4k 1k nits OLED and commercial audio set. That's the point. They need those so then consumers on ANY monitor can say "wow the colours/audio are amazing in this movie"

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 10 месяцев назад +384

    For everyday users, a $250 option is more than enough. Understanding the high-end tech and appreciating its justification is a journey on its own.

    • @Adam-vx6to
      @Adam-vx6to 10 месяцев назад +39

      The $250 option is terrible for even normal users. get a halfway decent TV.

    • @eruannster
      @eruannster 10 месяцев назад +25

      The $250 option will be complete ass, I'm sorry to say. At least for something like a 55-inch TV, it will be a bottom-barrel panel with none of the bells and whistles. HDR? Nope. HDMI 2.1/high refresh rate/VRR? Nope. Color accuracy? In your dreams. You'll be lucky to get even the most basic local dimming.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 10 месяцев назад +13

      You have clearly never actually seen a quantum dot display of any type. It is the biggest improvement in display since the colour CRT. It won the Nobel prize in physics for good reason.

    • @Emetsys
      @Emetsys 10 месяцев назад

      You have clearly never actually seen an OLED display@@mycosys

    • @sbmotoracer
      @sbmotoracer 10 месяцев назад +9

      Define "everyday users". Someone who watches movies everyday in their home room theater for example is also considered an everyday user but would most certainly NOT consider a $250 tv to "more then enough". The only people who would accept that kind of tv are going to be those who have never tried anything better OR people who can't afford better.

  • @WhoKnows287
    @WhoKnows287 10 месяцев назад +116

    This video made me question if I had a dead pixel on my monitor...
    Every time the camera went to Linus and Brandon, there was a single white dot on the screen in the exact same place every time.

    • @chalion8399
      @chalion8399 10 месяцев назад +8

      What really got me was the low light quality of their camera while they're in shadow too. No idea why the white pixel was showing up, maybe some post processing error?

    • @leonardog.2491
      @leonardog.2491 10 месяцев назад

      @@chalion8399even in HDR 4K I had the same issue here

    • @4pThorpy
      @4pThorpy 10 месяцев назад +2

      Was just about to comment this, the one dead pixel in Brandon's hair was driving me mad

    • @Adele_Maholan
      @Adele_Maholan 10 месяцев назад

      I had a similar experience. They made me think my screen was broken.

    • @TheUlitamateStunt
      @TheUlitamateStunt 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@chalion8399 When you crank the ISO of most cameras there are always pixels that end up showing up 'bright', even after a black frame calibration it just seems to be the way cameras are. I know most LTT videos are shot on FX6s which are pretty good with low light, but even so this video looked to be shot in the 100,000 ISO range which is cranking it by any definition.

  • @minecraftmaniac360
    @minecraftmaniac360 10 месяцев назад +238

    Pulling from the labs crew for more in-depth details is incredible! The added insight the labs members have on more specific/niche tech is a critical touch

  • @ruffyfluffbeast
    @ruffyfluffbeast 10 месяцев назад +162

    I always appreciate the videos where they show us differences in screens and audio quality and I'm watching on my 8 year old computer monitor with built in 3w speakers.

    • @Eratas1
      @Eratas1 10 месяцев назад +3

      Probably 99% of people.

    • @Randomonity
      @Randomonity 10 месяцев назад +1

      I have a three monitor setup with three different monitors (not used concurrently, two are side-by-side with one made for color-accurate editing while the third is on an arm in front of my gaming couch) and I enjoyed watching this on all three at the same time and seeing the differences, and then knowing that I'll never really know the real difference because this was all filmed. Maybe I need to get a Flanders for my fourth monitor :P

    • @gianclgar
      @gianclgar 10 месяцев назад

      watching this on an iphone 7 🎉

    • @EthisProtogen
      @EthisProtogen 9 месяцев назад

      I'm watching on my pixel 6a

  • @robertper4102
    @robertper4102 10 месяцев назад +136

    I love it when you review pro gear. I'm a 20+ year broadcast video engineer. I always love having the Sony OLED Trimasters, but these Flanders Sci monitors are looking good too. Also a note colorist Cullen Kelly recommends the LG C3 43" as a budget option for a reference monitor. (You still need to professionally calibrate it.)

    • @DanielJacksonisbiggerinside
      @DanielJacksonisbiggerinside 10 месяцев назад

      The fact that they didn't even talk about calibrating the consumer displays is a bit worrisome...

    • @Daithi_mk
      @Daithi_mk 10 месяцев назад +1

      How difficult is it to professionally calibrate it?

    • @DanielJacksonisbiggerinside
      @DanielJacksonisbiggerinside 10 месяцев назад

      @@Daithi_mk you need test gear (colorimeter, spectrophotometer, some reliable signal generator) and knowledge of the TV calibration menu and the workflow to get reliable results.
      It shouldn't be more than a few hundred if you have a local calibration tech and that person is not too busy.

    • @kiaaone8414
      @kiaaone8414 10 месяцев назад

      @@Daithi_mk It’s not to difficult you just need to get a calibration kit that can handle the tv and your production requirements. Then follow the instructions that come with the tv and calibration kit. Just look up display calibration kit on google for different options just be aware that some of the more capable ones are expensive!

  • @raidtheferry
    @raidtheferry 10 месяцев назад +15

    I just want to take a moment to appreciate the LTT team for dealing with YT's wack processing and making sure these videos are available in 4k and everything else it is seriously so nice

  • @Lyzer69
    @Lyzer69 10 месяцев назад +5

    i love this new method of throwing linus in a part of the scene to fill in the viewer with more info and tidbits, idk if it was cause you guys left it out of the script or not but that is very smooth and i wouldnt know if thats fixing a mistake or just a bit either way, loving the progress keep things like this up guys good work

  • @chuchushoeTW
    @chuchushoeTW 10 месяцев назад +637

    MOM: Beard-less Linus isn't real. He can't hurt you❤
    Beard-less Linus:HETZNER!!!

    • @DSC4
      @DSC4 10 месяцев назад +5

      **Lorax Voice** Thats a LINUX??????

    • @destroyer99612
      @destroyer99612 10 месяцев назад +2

      ur not an og are ya? that used to be linus

    • @chuchushoeTW
      @chuchushoeTW 10 месяцев назад

      @destroyer99612 lol just joking, been watching Linus since 2011

    •  10 месяцев назад

      When I've seen this, I wondered if that's some old footage.

    • @fakename2123
      @fakename2123 10 месяцев назад

      Hetzner is not a trustworthy company, look at their history they are laden with criminal activity

  • @not-a-lot-of-options
    @not-a-lot-of-options 10 месяцев назад +191

    7:25 Right after he says "picking at" there is a cut. My heart sank for a split second as I thought I had dead pixels.
    Right side of Brandon's Hair and way off to the right of Linus' head lol

    • @tahmid_adib
      @tahmid_adib 10 месяцев назад +17

      bruh, i freaked out too

    • @EmpathVibe
      @EmpathVibe 10 месяцев назад +13

      I stopped the video right away and jumped to another tab to check for dead pixels. Phew!!!

    • @Kris2340k
      @Kris2340k 10 месяцев назад +9

      I wiped my screen and it went away and thought it was me lmao

    • @S7ARBOY
      @S7ARBOY 10 месяцев назад +9

      that dead pixel on their camera bout gave me a heart attack.

    • @hadsumcake1226
      @hadsumcake1226 10 месяцев назад +1

      same just bought this G9 like 2 months ago almost cried

  • @83442handle
    @83442handle 10 месяцев назад +15

    6:10 Samsung S95B is 2022 and filmmaker mode has issues.(first year for Samsung with QDOLED)
    Filmmaker mode is much better with the 2023 S95C sets. Panasonic has the best OLED with out of the box accuracy(better shadow detail) but they dont sell them in the U.S/Canada anymore.
    If you want dead on accuracy you need to hire a ISF calibrator to calibrate the set. You could calibrate these sets to be much closer to the Flanders....especially if they were using current gen OLED like the MLA from LG and the newer Samsung sets.

    • @JahonaCA
      @JahonaCA 10 месяцев назад +2

      I have an S95C and noticed a big difference once I calibrated the display vs in filmmaker mode. 2023 Filmmaker mode is objectionably better than the 2022 version but it still has issues.

    • @elsapotk421
      @elsapotk421 10 месяцев назад +1

      Would you suggest using film maker mode or the smart calibration feature to get the more accurate picture?

  • @NearynHub
    @NearynHub 10 месяцев назад +30

    HDR is amazing and i am all there for it! Thanks for uploading this in HDR.

    • @Nighthunt01
      @Nighthunt01 10 месяцев назад +4

      HDR content is great wish more content on youtube was HDR👍

  • @hotfistVODS
    @hotfistVODS 10 месяцев назад +6

    I hope this does well because I absolutely love comparisons of high grade enterprise/mastering/EXTREMELY non consumer devices to consumer devices and in a lot of cases, the gap is closing. So it's always super interesting.

    • @vanqy.
      @vanqy. 9 месяцев назад

      tbh the samsung is extremly bad here, thats more than a "gap"

  • @bassdrop001
    @bassdrop001 10 месяцев назад +236

    Bearded Linus and not Bearded Linus in the same video? Amazing!

    • @sativagirl1885
      @sativagirl1885 10 месяцев назад

      only the fake Linus has real tattoo on his #monetizeda$$

    • @CCISolitude
      @CCISolitude 10 месяцев назад +1

      The Linus we need AND deserve!

    • @Msalehcit
      @Msalehcit 10 месяцев назад

      Its a God damn "Prestige." This whole "tech channel" has been a CIA psyop directed by Christopher Nolan since day one.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's Schrödinger's Linus !

  • @gera13sa
    @gera13sa 10 месяцев назад +56

    The HDR looks just amazing, not just like regular video with pumped up brightness like a lot of other HDR video on youtube do

    • @Mnkeys
      @Mnkeys 10 месяцев назад +1

      I mean, the brightness is still pumped up a ton and there's no way to turn it off, so I kinda hate it

    • @gera13sa
      @gera13sa 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Mnkeys yep, especially when pure white web page is shown, it’s hurts my eyes sometimes…

    • @__u__9464
      @__u__9464 10 месяцев назад

      @@gera13sathat’s what hdr is all about… darker darks and brighter brights

  • @LordParaDax
    @LordParaDax 10 месяцев назад +40

    Thank goodness I needed something to watch

  • @jerrys.9895
    @jerrys.9895 10 месяцев назад +7

    The phrase "memory colors" immediately hit in a way that helped me understand why "reference" footage versus various display processing magic. If you're looking at something for which you have no frame of reference, it could look like anything at all and you will just accept it. If you're looking at something that your brain has an immediate reference for, differences stand out. But, as with all content, color matching is only as good as the palette designed by the color editor. Whatever was filmed by the camera will never be seen by the end user regardless of display; it goes through myriad filters and adjustments that (presumably) have taken into consideration it will be played back on a variety of displays.

  • @jorisbonson386
    @jorisbonson386 10 месяцев назад +47

    I love how these days a 55" tv is 'tiny'

    • @kiisseli1337
      @kiisseli1337 6 месяцев назад

      The smallest "tv" size, smaller than that are meant for desktop

    • @jorisbonson386
      @jorisbonson386 6 месяцев назад +1

      @kiisseli1337 dude I remember when a 28" crt tv was massive

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 4 месяца назад +1

      @@kiisseli1337 idk what you are on, anything bigger than 32 inches is a television.

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 10 месяцев назад +200

    I find it funny that for Linus a 55 inch TV is "tiny"

    • @scorch527
      @scorch527 10 месяцев назад +53

      I hope it's a joke because if not it's very out of touch

    • @IceYetiWins
      @IceYetiWins 10 месяцев назад +53

      For 20k it is

    • @GeekProdigyGuy
      @GeekProdigyGuy 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@scorch527 it costs $20K and is meant for professional applications...

    • @ToreOnYouTube
      @ToreOnYouTube 10 месяцев назад +9

      It’s all relative. I’d say 55” is the absolute minimum for most living rooms, as you’re probably sitting at least 9 feet from it.

    • @AliasA1
      @AliasA1 10 месяцев назад

      @@scorch527 jfc, its not a joke, it's juxtaposing the insane price point with the RELATIVELY-COMPARED-TO-THE-INSANE-PRICE-POINT tiny size, to pique interest about what else might be the reason for the price point. You know, they talk about you (People who call him out of touch because they fail to comprehend very basic communication) sometimes on the wan show, check it out some time.

  • @ForestCinema
    @ForestCinema 10 месяцев назад +3

    The LG OLED is a pretty standard “client” monitor alongside a colorist’s Flanders (or equivalent) just for anyone curious. Of course, proper pipeline, and paying a tech to professionally calibrate it still apply.

  • @lagrangemechanics
    @lagrangemechanics 10 месяцев назад +18

    LTT has done many display videos in the past, and I'm happy to say this is the first (in my memory of watching LTT) that matches HDTVTest in terms of technical level.

  • @WilliamMenzies-sm1on
    @WilliamMenzies-sm1on 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @mikecoshan3752
    @mikecoshan3752 10 месяцев назад +5

    I have a 65” OLED LG G3, it’s been an eye opener from my old Non HDR LCD Panasonic 55”

  • @KurobaSayuki
    @KurobaSayuki 10 месяцев назад +14

    the white pixel at 8:21 - 8:25 freaked me out, i just got new monitors and i was scared that i already got a dead pixel

    • @mrs8768
      @mrs8768 10 месяцев назад

      xDDD, i just got a new monitor too, but i saw teh comments beforehand :D

  • @hitardo
    @hitardo 10 месяцев назад +6

    10:45 TCL is actually one of the few mass-market TV OEMs which is vertically integrated, including in the chips.
    This is quite impressive as they have budget-friendly offerings.
    Hence, I typically assume that they see it as not a part of their core business.
    Which is especially strange, given that the chip is something which can make or break a TV.
    Moreover, Samsung has a branch which designs and manufacturers chips.

  • @thejonathandoan
    @thejonathandoan 10 месяцев назад +4

    This reminds me of when I was working a job at the Sony Store in the Galleria Mall in Dallas TX circa 2007, when Sony released the XEL-1: the world's first OLED Television. The screen was tiny, at only 11 inches diagonal, and it cost $2,500. Crazy how far we've come since then!

    • @PolyHertz
      @PolyHertz 10 месяцев назад +1

      That was the TV I thought of when reading the video title, saw it at a Sony store when went to a GDC convention in 2008. Really left an impression at the time.

  • @nickryan3417
    @nickryan3417 10 месяцев назад +2

    This brought back memories of reviewing video output on a studio monitor. It was an old Sony CRT model, and only a grade 2 device, but the quality that it picked up and showed was tremendous. It was well worth it compared to any other display we tried by comparison, and that's before all the useful features such as a proper visual overscan display, colour masking and anything else available was used.

  • @ducdashot1239
    @ducdashot1239 6 месяцев назад

    i kinda wish they had the flanders guys be interviewed, its always a ton of fun seeing people who are passionate about their specific field break it down in detail

  • @Spiralem
    @Spiralem 10 месяцев назад +19

    That 1 white pixel when on Brandon and Linus scene make me think i have a frozen pixel on my display -.-

  • @michaelwillman5342
    @michaelwillman5342 10 месяцев назад +9

    Surgical monitors are very similar and they are fantastic monitors. Even going back to CRTs, these "broadcast" and medical monitors are far superior to what the normal person would get at home.

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 9 месяцев назад +2

      You can at least get those surplus rather inexpensively. They are excellent to use with a microscope camera. ❤

  • @nicolasmaltais530
    @nicolasmaltais530 10 месяцев назад +10

    The camera filming Brandon and Linus show a white stuck pixel located mostly in the hairs of Brandon. Anyone noticed ?

    • @JeffJK000
      @JeffJK000 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. A few weeks ago (about a month now), I noticed the same pixel in another video.

    • @averye
      @averye 9 месяцев назад +1

      you can really see it when it zooms in on linus at 13:31

  • @stefannita3439
    @stefannita3439 5 месяцев назад

    Watching this in HDR on an M3 Max MacBook Pro display was awesome. Some of those scenes seared my eyeballs right out. Probably the best HDR video I've seen so far (that actually had content worth consuming and wasn't just a tech showcase)

  • @crudedude85
    @crudedude85 9 месяцев назад +2

    I assume the Flanders arrived for review after being perfectly calibrating using $15k worth of colorimeters and Spectroradiometers. Can the same be said for the Samsung and the LG? unless they were all calibrated using the same gear and software, isn't this test sorta a waste of time to compare? I work in professional content creation and filmmaker mode out of the box isn't anything I would rely on. We run the monitor through calman studio with proper gear. Everyone can drool over Flanders, but perhaps its not the screen that's so beautiful, but instead the perfect calibration you are seeing. Years ago, rumor on the street was that their XM series OLEDs were $17k screens that were using THE SAME internal LG panels, but Flanders threw on some SDI ports , added internal LUT processing, added easy colorspace switching , but it in a custom branded chassis, and jacked the price from $3000 (consumer LG) to $17,000. So before everyone starts getting too excited about these Flanders, we should be asking once again where they are getting these panels internally. I can only assume they are getting the same panels as what Sony is using in their QDOLEDs. So if that's true, you are drooling over a Sony A95L with some bells and whistles on it, and most importantly a PROPER STUDIO LEVEL CALIBRATION.
    EDIT: As I get further into this video I now see Flanders is touting a tetrahedral LUT ....the C2 and G2 LGs started doing this too. good grief. You need to redo this shoot but calibrate the damn LG professionally. You guys may be getting tricked. I have a feeling a $4000 LG G3 (G4 will for sure be a better option) that is properly calibrated will be almost identical to this Flanders. AND THEN, if you see a difference between them still, who is to say that the LG OLED isn't more accurate than the Flanders. Are you saying just because it has a larger price tag, its more accurate? With that theory, if Kia charged $90k for a suv, does that price automatically make it better quality than a Mercedes?

  • @MrPruske
    @MrPruske 10 месяцев назад +4

    17:00
    i mean, if someone wanted to make the best projector...
    separate lasers and dlp chips for each laser.
    i dont care if i have to hand calibrate it.

  • @shadowjfd
    @shadowjfd 10 месяцев назад +3

    Who’s that guy at 1:21?!? 😨

  • @fraizie6815
    @fraizie6815 10 месяцев назад +3

    Flanders Scientific who happened to be in the neighborhood huh? So not only does he pray for God now, he also makes reference TVs

  • @zekrodev
    @zekrodev 10 месяцев назад +7

    Seeing Hetzner Ads on LTT while being Hetzner customer since years, both in our company as well as for my private stuff. Feels good to have such a great, local sponsor on this channel.

    • @techbulb3440
      @techbulb3440 10 месяцев назад

      They ask for driver’s license to sign up

    • @zekrodev
      @zekrodev 10 месяцев назад

      @@techbulb3440 Dont know how it is in other countries, but in Germany they only require payment information, which is kinda obvious though.

  • @vvsmane547
    @vvsmane547 10 месяцев назад +1

    6:03 if you use filmmaker mode on Samsung TV you are basically watching content through lightly applied sepia filter so it doesn't surprise me that you would complain about color accuracy

  • @phyde1885
    @phyde1885 9 месяцев назад

    I don't know if any one mentioned it, but @ 9:47 to 9:49, the Tree Bark seen on the XMP550 was MUCH clearer than the S95B. It was more noticeable around the top backside of his head,but the Grain definition depth is cleaner on this monitor. The difference to me was like night and day. Now i look again in still shot,the jaw area too shows lighter and more detail too.
    I am also viewing this @ 4K 30FPS on you tube on a ASUS PG32UQR 4K. Looks Amazing !
    I've been hoping for Monitors to reach this level of Accuracy, per say to the Human Eye, without TOO much extravagance ! This Monitor comes close, you have to start somewhere ! It will only get better. That will be the eye poppers!
    Would I like to have it,YES. Can I afford it? NO ! Uncle left me at the bottom of the Hand-Out Line with Peas every Month ! 😓
    Something like the XMP550 @ $20K is completely not within any possible reach on my budget. Even if it was $5K. FPGA's are nothing new,they are just creeping into this space now. They use this sort of tech in Engineering Procs so they can re-program them all the time on the Fly,so to speak. Another reason that makes FPGAs more expensive,more to it than that though. And they are faster than a cpu driven unit. Like everything,there are good and bad. Now if we can get some MORE NEW Mixes into the different screen technologies into the fray to help push us into in next Frontier,instead of same old same old. Looking at BATTERIES !! Don't get me started. I will end that note here. 😎

  • @alexmeyer8133
    @alexmeyer8133 10 месяцев назад

    I have tried a lot of different OLED TV's. By far, my favorite TV i have seen is the one i own. The LG C2 (and hopefully soon the C3). Not only is it amazing for watching movies, but gaming in 4K 120fps with gsync on my 4070 ti super / 7800x3d PC build really takes advantage of what the LG C2 has to offer. I went with the 42" and got it open box, but brand new, for $700. From PC, to PS5, to watching movies and shows, i truly belive it is the best tv you can get for its cost.

  • @brandon_bates
    @brandon_bates 10 месяцев назад +1

    I remember back in the early days of FSI (mid 2000's) when they came by our shop to demo their first monitors. At the time they were more the less expensive version of the higher end monitors (like sony, dolby, etc). They brought a klein color sensor as well. It was an interesting demo, but hard to beat our CRTs at the time (blacks especially of course, we had large widescreen sony CRTs BVM-D32 I think.) Fun to see them rise to the top!

  • @synicalfutilist4890
    @synicalfutilist4890 10 месяцев назад +1

    From about 6:15 there's a dead pixel on your camera or some other anomaly when facing both you guys, i panicked thinking my 2 week old qled was imperfect but it's definitely there.

  • @bricaaron3978
    @bricaaron3978 9 месяцев назад

    14:16 *"This is the ability of the processor to interpret all the different little micro-steps of color..."*
    This is one of the many problems with the digital displays that have replaced CRT. A display isn't supposed to "interpret" anything --- it is supposed to _faithfully display the signal it receives._
    The only goal of _reproduction_ is just that: to reproduce audio or video as accurately as possible, not to alter or intrepret, or "enhance" it.

  • @loganhatch
    @loganhatch 10 месяцев назад +1

    I like how the time stamp at 1:30 to skip past the ad still makes sure you get the last bit of it that sends you to the store with a discount code. I see what you did there. And I like it.

  • @SigmaEpsilon
    @SigmaEpsilon 10 месяцев назад +1

    Currently running 2x LG 27GL83A-B 27" QHD IPS 1ms NVIDIA G-SYNC. Interesting video.

  • @Izquierda
    @Izquierda 9 месяцев назад

    Glad to see the E251 and E171 BVMs getting a quick shout out in the end. They remain the absolute best SDR HD (and, with some qualifications, SD) displays ever. If only these Flanders monitors had BFI for motion clarity on 60fps content they'd be seriously compelling. The HX3110 does have it as an option if you buy a license for it.

  • @Nerry_a_Pigeon
    @Nerry_a_Pigeon 10 месяцев назад

    I'm watching this video on my 250 USD MVA monitor from 2013 and I can confirm that I'm very satisfied by all these color differences and brightness halos on these 20000 USD TVs :)

  • @SaloCh
    @SaloCh 10 месяцев назад +1

    7:00 yeahhh I mean, if it looks way lighter in the specialized screen, and too dark in most normal screens, shouldn't they compensate for that?
    Edit: ok later he does say that this doesn't happen nearly as much with actual content. But like it is a thing people complain about

  • @cocoGioia
    @cocoGioia 10 месяцев назад

    Finally a great HDR showcase, LTT finally shot many of their videos in HDR, and they upload them in HDR, which is now becoming increasingly widespread in smartphones, tablets, oled monitors and TVs

  • @Iron_Condorr
    @Iron_Condorr 10 месяцев назад

    8:12 The camera sensor is bad/damaged. If you see the little "Spec" in Brendan's hair every time they cut to them talking in person. It is hard to make out. But I assure you it is there. 8:22

  • @trailingrails9953
    @trailingrails9953 10 месяцев назад

    The dead pixels on the camera sensor at 5:52 and 7:30 had me thinking my brand new (as of today) monitor had a dead pixel. (to the far right, a little above halfway up the frame)

  • @mareksinister
    @mareksinister 10 месяцев назад +2

    Linus in two weeks: "I bought this monitor for all my employees" 💀

  • @deliciouserest
    @deliciouserest 5 месяцев назад

    Watching on my LG OLED and it makes the G2 almost always look better

  • @eriklundstedt9469
    @eriklundstedt9469 10 месяцев назад

    I am at 8:01
    One note i have is that the people are saying "Samsung" and "LG" but on the screen it says the name of the TV (?)
    Maybe put the manufacturer or whatever underneath to make it extra clear
    Other than that, I've got nothing to note
    Keep in mind that I've only watched the first part of the vid though

  • @VetBodGaming
    @VetBodGaming 7 месяцев назад

    This actually makes me want to buy this TV. The trees in the first scene just look so realistic. This also made me realize when I dont like LG TVs, their picture is always too cool looking where the warmer samsung looks better to me

  • @Solstice-h4q
    @Solstice-h4q 9 месяцев назад

    can we appreciate how they setup the video sections to make people who skip the ad get talked to personally lmao

  • @smartduck904
    @smartduck904 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just change the contrast to 47 that's what I had to do with my lg also bring down the gama a bit resorts in a pretty big difference I would also bring down saturation vibrance down one or two points

  • @yousellouts
    @yousellouts 9 месяцев назад +1

    Odd that a Sony A95L wasn't used given that it's the best OLED and pretty much the best TV currently available on the consumer market. You'd think a direct comparison with that and the XMP550 would make the most sense. Especially since the A95L has a 55" model which is the same size as the XMP550.

    • @yousellouts
      @yousellouts 9 месяцев назад

      Also mfw just purchased a 42" A90K for my bedroom and Linus calls a 55" tiny.

  • @Astro-M0
    @Astro-M0 9 месяцев назад +2

    Now do a blind test where you cover up every tv's stand and borders and then let's see if you can tell which one is the $20,000 one 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @thehendrixexperience1704
    @thehendrixexperience1704 10 месяцев назад

    Bro that Mad Max still @ 11:26 is too dope. Screen cap that and send it to ya boy😂

  • @koteczek7547
    @koteczek7547 10 месяцев назад

    13:07 About the peaking brightness, isn't that identical to what would happen irl if you were looking? Your eyes wouldn't be artificially able to preserve the detail as well, correct me if Im wrong

  • @MrGman543
    @MrGman543 10 месяцев назад +1

    Are the other TVs professionally calibrated? I thought you could get OLEDs extremely close to a product like the XMP550 if you have someone calibrate it? Maybe I just don't know what calibration actually does 🤔.

  • @rogercabo5545
    @rogercabo5545 10 месяцев назад

    Linus is a great performer and speaker, possessing the ability to inspire belief and radiate a positive vibe in front of the camera. I never felt deceived.

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633 9 месяцев назад

    These are intended for preview of movies to tune the color balances for the theatrical release. That is a very exclusive market and in no small part is why they are so expensive.

  • @user540000
    @user540000 10 месяцев назад +1

    Linus: "why would anybody buy a 55" TV for 20k?"
    US Government: "hold my beer"

  • @jette24
    @jette24 9 месяцев назад +1

    at 7:29 that one pixel in the guys hair scared the crap out of me i thought my monitor had a dead one lol

  • @TheRoCkHaRdOrDiE
    @TheRoCkHaRdOrDiE 9 месяцев назад

    not connecting to the internet is what makes it stands out for me, most tvs now want you to connect to the internet so badly while also being horrible in every way.

  • @JohnUntivero
    @JohnUntivero 6 месяцев назад

    Toss those movies into DaVinci Resolve and have the output via an IO device. If you’re using Mac or Windows, their color management alters the colors a bit, versus loading it into Resolve and getting the feed thru the IO Box, it’ll give you closer to the raw colors in the video file.

  • @SFtheGreat
    @SFtheGreat 8 месяцев назад +1

    Finally something I can watch my VHS on.

  • @SecretMoose
    @SecretMoose 10 месяцев назад +1

    @LinusTechTips Apparently the latest S95B firmware has reduced the max brightness significantly. There are ways to restore it through secret menus but quite a lot of complaints out there at Samsungs behaviour. Unsure their reasoning but it appears to affect the picture quite a bit.
    As a fellow BC S95B owner to Brandon, I’d love it if that could be tested by the labs team to either validate or dismiss the claims.
    One of the reasons I chose the S95B over the C2 was your original video where the impressions seem vastly different to the LG today.

  • @rOOmUSh
    @rOOmUSh 10 месяцев назад

    As a broadcast engineer, as soon as i saw FLANDERS on the screen, i've moved to another video. 22 minutes of life saved.

    • @mramus497
      @mramus497 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for coming back to write this comment 😊

    • @rOOmUSh
      @rOOmUSh 10 месяцев назад

      @@mramus497 hehe, no, i paused to write the comment before leaving :) but yeah, now i came back.

  • @karumaman
    @karumaman 10 месяцев назад

    I like how at the 7:30 mark they display a white pixel in the upper left middle of the screen. Literally thought I had a bad pixel there for a second!

  • @jacewhite8540
    @jacewhite8540 10 месяцев назад +1

    So hard to appreciate through a notfilmmaker grade monitor, though youTube video compression.

  • @tikitakaboyz5050
    @tikitakaboyz5050 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is a great video! Only thing is I wish that instead of the LG they could've used the Sony A95L to also compare the very best TV in the market

  • @juanromero-fi2cf
    @juanromero-fi2cf 9 месяцев назад

    i still have my old eizo monitor that came with the smoke suite back in the day, still today holds up

  • @daylen577
    @daylen577 10 месяцев назад

    I feel like this is one video where having the main version be an emulated HDR -> SDR one and then a separate true HDR one would've been well worth it. I'm just using an affordable ultrawide and even the things that aren't pointed out are just mostly invisible on my monitor, because while it has very accurate colors it does not do darkness very well

  • @tinnyty
    @tinnyty 10 месяцев назад

    This is a random question, but I noticed you didn't do any noise reduction processing at 11:38, but you did at 11:00, and it looks fantastic. A little soft, but overall, very nice. Is this just the built-in NR, or is it a plug-in?

  • @tnokes9247
    @tnokes9247 10 месяцев назад

    As an LG Oled owner, I see this as an absolute win

  • @jjjjjj192
    @jjjjjj192 10 месяцев назад

    All you gotta do is dial back the contrast and saturation a bit and bump up the brightness a notch or two and there you go.

  • @66777jason
    @66777jason 6 месяцев назад

    7:29 holy shit that stuck pixel. I thought it was really ironic my monitor got a stuck pixel on a video about displays for a second there

  • @SamLefever
    @SamLefever 10 месяцев назад

    Tech monitor info series brings me so much happiness

  • @rathpunks
    @rathpunks 10 месяцев назад

    Having worked in TV's sales, id like to see a sony in the comparison. But yes when it came to dark scenes the Samsung always crushed the detail, and colours were over vibrant (which customers loved).
    And in terms of OLED, they always looked over saturated in colour.
    My Favourite has always been Full array local dimming displays from Sony, as crazy as most would call me, because the colour looked more realistic to me, and shadow detail wasnt crushed, and the higher peak brightness hits better. The only downside is the black bars arnt as black as OLED, but that doesn't really bother me

  • @Xirpzy
    @Xirpzy 10 месяцев назад

    Novel idea but from what I know about colorists and colour grading is that they use regular monitors and TVs for content creation, as that is how it will be viewed by pretty much everyone. Making content look superb on a very niche and specific display doesnt make much sense if it then looks bad on a regular screen. There are ofcourse variations with grading for a cinema or TV. What Im saying is that to get the full experience you need to view content specifically made for this type of screen.

  • @takuminightcore1886
    @takuminightcore1886 10 месяцев назад

    You really need to like start testing a lot more TVs from cheap to mid to expensive because it would definitely help a lot of people to select their TVs of what’s good and what’s bad

  • @scarletspidernz
    @scarletspidernz 10 месяцев назад +1

    0:47 Flanders really stepped up from the Leftorium and church

  • @tacticalbeaver4637
    @tacticalbeaver4637 10 месяцев назад

    Finally some love for a Belgian tech company.

  • @oledolez
    @oledolez 10 месяцев назад

    Really fun listening to the comentary, but no matter what screen i try at home i cannot se the differences they talk about in HDR (youtube mby) But when switching to SDR some of the things they comment on is visible. My takeaway, software on my samsung ignores / screws up all the calibration settings in HDR mode

  • @Matt43
    @Matt43 10 месяцев назад

    Having just purchased an LG C3, this was nice to see the LG generally performs better than the Samsung (as that was the other TV I was looking at)

    • @V3locities
      @V3locities 10 месяцев назад

      Lg always and forever will be the peak of customer tv