How are the temps in games. It reaches 100 most times that I have seen. Also is your ryzen cpu able to do content creation task easily since PPL generally go for Intel in that case .
Having an AMD Legion 7 myself, I have probably leaned AMD a bit, but think I have begun to change my mind somewhat when they just dropped their competitive GPU line for laptops. But what I wanted to say was that the comparison doesn't seem quite fair when you get a better GPU to compensate for the lower price of the CPU, but then don't use the tuning tools that comes on the Intel-version.
@@MashITTech just bought the Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 i7-13700HX, more value for money, but still gotta say that if legion and predator same price for the same spec, i would definitely choose legion as the UI/software look so much more crisp
Lenovo's wave of mega silent firings in early 2023 were absolutely despicable. They laid of thousands of really great people after posting record profits and bragging about moving up the Forbes list each quarter in their "All Hands" NA org sales meetings to those people that moved the needle for them. They ruined thousands of people's lives, especially those that relocated and even bought new homes during the peak of covid when Lenovo asked for their dedication to support and grow the business. Their warranty process is atrocious and considered terrible by anyone who has had to deal with service claims on top of this.
Thanks for the review. Well done video! I went w the Intel 5i Pro as a desktop replacement. I'm a casual gamer so minor graphical differences are not a big deal to me. A great gaming/everyday laptop at a $1,500 price point.
I believe that the i5-13500hx limits ram speeds to 4800mhz, whereas the 7745hx doesn’t. My i7-13700hx does the same, so I believe that the only way to get faster ram speeds with the intel version is to go with an i9. Thanks for the great comparison, though! I initially thought that the 4060 and 4070 were *much* closer in performance! However, since the 4060 laptop card is the exact same as the 4060 desktop card, I’d be very interested to see how the 4070 mobile stacks up against a desktop 4060ti (8gb) after seeing these results. I’ve been wondering for awhile, yet there still isn’t a *single* video comparison on RUclips, which I find odd. The 4070(m) draws less power (115watt vs 160watt) and runs at a slightly lower frequency, but also has more cuda cores (4608 vs 4352), as well as more TMU’s, tensor cores as well as RT cores. All things considered, I think that would make for a great comparison! My guess, is that the 4070(m) is *slightly* less powerful than the 4060 ti due to power/frequency limits, but all of its other specs are better on the 4070(m), so who knows! 🤷♂️ Would that be a video you’d ever consider doing?
i litreally love this thing. I had tested various laptops before buying this, and g14 was one of the worst experience the small track pad , small battery, no pd on type c . If u thinking between 5i and g14 i would recommend 5i 100%. My review - Laptop gives excellent performance and gpu overclock option in vantage app is cherry on top. But my cpu was reaching 97-98 c on the first day and after adding cooling pad and making some changes in vantage apps keeps it below 90 for most of the games. I play valo , fortnite, modern warfare. @@davidk4082
I wonder why the AMD version doesn’t have advanced Optimus. Most of the 2023 ones do. That HX chip is too power hungry though. A 7940HS might’ve actually been pretty good here.
Apparently Ryzen + HDR + Advanced Optimus don't play nice together so that's went the AMD version doesn't have advanced Optimus. If you got the regular non HDR screen advanced Optimus should work
@@MrLawlessGaming what’s weird is neither does the new Legion Slim 5 14” with the AMD HS chips, yet the Asus Zephyrus G14 has it and it works great, even on the HDR displays.
In the UK the AMD Alienware M16 is now under £1600 so now deciding between that and a Legion 5. Also X16 is under £1900, so seems pretty pointless to judge Alienwares by their initial pricing for the first couple of months.
Yes, I spotted the price drops! it is about time, there were quite over priced on launch. The m16 is a solid unit and I would probably take that over the x16 just for the better cpu and upgradable ram
Your review was great. Waiting for a Legion Pro 5 16IRX8 with 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900HX, 32GB DDR5-5600, RTX 4060, M.2 2280 SSD 1TB, 500 nit 240Hz display... for 1,177 GB Pound (AU$2,249) at recent Black Friday sale.
@@davidk4082 The device is very wonderful for me, being a former user of the PC with an I7 7700k processor and a 1070 card, this laptop is very good for me and my work (very mobile) I use it as an office and for 3D projects
well, the lid is metal and intel's 13th gen i5 and i7 are capable of running 4800MHz RAM that's their limit where as ryzen 7000 series doesn't support ddr4 but 5200MHz RAM and should run 5600 as well but idk about it, furthermore in most of the titles like rdr 2, forza horizon 5 balanced mode gives same performance for better temps as far as I have noticed
Are you sure the lid is metal? mine felt plastic, I will double check. Also 4800mhz is not the limit on 13th gen, it was for 12th gen. I have the blade 16 and legion pro 7i both running at 5600mhz. I have just ordered some 5600mhz fury to try and bump this 5i to 5600mhz! I will let you know how it goes.
@MP422ownz That's partially true. Check the intel specs. The 13500H and 13700HX do not support more than 4800MT/s while the 13700H and every 13th Gen i9 support more than 4800MT/s. And @hsuyaager8557 Not every 7000series supports 5200MT/s, but all the Ryzen configurations for Lenovo Legion 5 Pro do.
Literally cannot makeup my mind. I have a Legion 5 Ryzen 7 (15ARP8) but just bought the Pro 5i with an i7 at a bargain. Love the larger 16:10 screen, but hate the huge power cord and seems the i7 is way overpowered for the 4060 and my needs. I literally would swap the i7 for the less powerful but more efficient Ryzen 7735HS in the 2023 Pro 5i body in a heartbeat for its better thermals and battery life. I guess my best option for thermals, power mgmt and 16:10 would be the Legion Slim, only thing is they cost more for less RAM/SSD. :(
Hi there, I’m planning to get this legion pro 5 with the AMD processor but I’m worried about that cpu temp, it even reaches 100c on some games. Is that normal? Or should I just get the asus ROG strix G16 with rtx 4060 variant? Please let me know, thanks!
Im thinking about buying a Legion Pro 5 AMD version. Non-Blackfriday price in Sweden is £2286 and blackfriday price is £1484. Question is, is it a good price and is it worth the money?
@@MashITTech Oh yes! You can really feel the work that goes into these videos. Congratulations on that. As for the computer, so far so good. I had to have the motherboard replaced a year ago but fortunately, as it's a Thinkpad, everything was covered by the warranty. They even added an extra 8gb of memory for free.
They are actually in sale in my country and both of the model below are at the exact same price. - R7-32GB-1TB-RTX 4070 - 240hz - i7-32GB-1TB-RTX 4070 - 240hz So if I understood the video, the Intel one would be the best value here, isn't it ? Even if my purpose is Gaming only ?
could add some simple numbers on the sustained clocks during gaming and power consumption, that would explain the higher ryzen temps as they are more efficient and thus boosting higher...
What is the best lenovo legion 5 for me? Hello guys, in my country there are offers on the internet and I found 2 laptops, Lenovo Legion 5 laptops in: 1622 Dollars - Ryzen 7 8845HS with rtx 4070 1756 dollars - I9 14900HX with rtx 4060 I don't consider myself a gamer, I'm a java backend programmer, I see micro services, local and cloud database, etc. In my free time I play some video games. But, I like to run them smoothly. Also, my wife is a fashion design student, so we'll have to share the computer for certain heavier jobs, I imagine, Photoshop, illustrator, or related things. That said, which laptop option would suit me best?
Thank you for posting, I’m looking at this laptop, so it’s good to have such a practical analysis. The Ryzen version looks liker a great choice for a gamer, but maybe a creator would like a few more QOL features for their daily use.
i like the design of the legion slim 7 from (2022-2023 ...) i hope after 5/6 years when i buy a new laptop i will surely buy the legion slim 7/7i if it exist till then or if legion slim 9i comes. Legion slim 7i metal feels so premium and metallic
no worries now i have already bought laptop i don't seek for much videos related to laptops . I think i have watched too many laptop videos. But i watch your videos🎉
thats a CPU limitation for i5 and i7 13th gen HX which only supports RAM Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s & Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s. you need to get the i9 for support of higher RAM speeds
in india, there is price difference of 10,000INR(120USD according to conversion) between AMD 7745hx and i7 13700hx variant(Intel i7 is more expensive by 120USD). rest of the specifications are exactly same mentioned on the website. if budget allows both then which should be a better deal.
Looks like I have found my next laptop, the only thing that saddens me is the insane difference between amd and intel version and the lack of thunderbolt. But come on, how can you launch a product in 2023 with 16 gb or RAM !?!?
to be fair, I chose 16gb as I planned to upgrade it myself as it is so much cheaper. A lot of the configs had 32gb. I was really impressed with the performance of the ryzen, hitting 5ghz when gaming really helps getting high fps on games that are mostly single threaded
@@MashITTech Thanks for the reply, that makes a lot of sense,i thought it was just because you chose two builds that cost th same. Personally I prefer intel for my desktop pc but I think for a laptop AMD makes a lot of sense, especialyl when the bang for buck is this good.
Yeah I did try and keep them both to the same £1400 budget, you just get a lot more for your money with amd! The charge from 16 to 32gb at Lenovo was more than I can buy a high spec 32gb 5500mhz kit so it seemed like a no brainer 😀👍
@@MashITTech Can you upgrade to faster RAM in the Intel version? I thought I spotted a vid a while back where you did just that to test if it works but when I went back to watch it later, I couldn't find it.
@MashITTech Hi, towards the end of the video you talked about the AMD laptop which in the battery life test got around 10h. Can you tell me which ones? Thank you
Watching this on my Legion Pro 5 Gen 8 AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX (16") with RTX 4070. Had a few bugs when it shipped to me but the keyboard is rather amazing. I'm hoping to get a good 5 years out of this laptop.
@@ivanula6606 The laptop performs really good. The only thing is that it is on the heavier side but to be fair every laptop with the specs this laptop has is going to be heavy and a littlebit chunky because of the cooling it needs. Also a littlebit loud in performance mode but I would only use that when I’m at home gaming with headphones on. You can still game on quiet mode without any problems.
Great review! I have one with 7745hx :) good machine in general. Don’t you know, is there any possibility to undervolt it? Thanks ps. I’m a bit disappointed with power consumption in idle mode… even if cpu has 0-1% load it still consumes 7-10 Watts, it can fall down to 4 Watts but really rare. Don’t you know about Intel? Does it also spin fans on idle?
I am still playing with it but I haven't found a way yet. Will keep you posted though. I love the fact it sits at 5ghz in games, that really helps performance. idle consumption is a real shame and leads to its poor battery life this year, I wonder if that is a byproduct of the increased cpu performance this year
I just picked up the legion slim 7i laptop. I'm confused by the hybrid integrated and dedicated graphics modes. I tried running the time spy benchmark, but it's only running off the Intel graphics. Should I just keep it on dGPU? And what would that cost me?
Only saying what i saw from jarrods vid, in the graphics settings or something you can choose whether you want to use hybrid which uses dGPU when plugged and unplugged iGPU. Dedicated GPU takes away power real fast and iGPU makes you a longer battery kife(so instead of using youtube for 1 hour you can use it for 5-6)
Went for the Ryzen 7 version. I use it for farming simulator 22 at max graphics and AI work. It more than delivers. I do want to upgrade to 32GB for more performance.
Hi! Great video. 1. Is the AMD Ryzen version good enough to edit 4K video? 2. Does Windows 11 include Office (Word, Excel, etc)? 3. Why people want Thunderbolt ports? Thanks!
thank you. Answers to you questions: 1. Yes, easily. 2. Sadly not, M$ has never included office. 3. Thunderbolt is good for high speed data transfers and EGPUs but if you have a dedicated GPU then an EGPU is mostly pointless
Hello , about the battery , u meant it takes only 3/4 hours unplugged when you are playing video games or the average in general ? because im more curious abt baterry for college tbh , please response. thanks anticipated.
Yeah, I have the 4070 version (with an i7-13700hx), and I’m still always surprised when my GPU wattage jumps up to the advertised *140watts,* even if it’s just for a split second or two. I previously had *two* other 4070 notebooks (which both needed to be returned), and they never even came close to 140watts (usually hovering around 100watts). For some reason, the legion 5i pro seems to do a much better job at using the full 115watt tdp, as well as even surpassing it into 120-130watts with cpu boost quite frequently.
I am sure some games will exceed 8gb in ultra settings but in all honesty the 4070 isn’t the strongest card anyway so probably won’t be playing many games at 1600p ultra settings comfortably
@@MashITTech so should I get a 4070 laptop since 4080 laptop is too exp..because of frame regen and dlss 3 I can most games on 4070 laptop too right with few settings lowered down..
I have a lenovo legion 5 pro i5 13500hx rtx 4060 and the idle consumption is about 25-30 watts, I changed the version of the Windows system and drivers, but it doesn’t help, is this a warranty case? If there are no special complaints about its operation, except for battery life
Hi mate,I’m looking at this on the uk site,iv no clue about pc gaming,getting my son one for Christmas,wat would be better just for gaming the 4060 i7 intel or 4060 ryzen 7
you most certainly can and all the heat for the exhaust is vented out the back so its possible to run this laptop with the lid closed. Gary, my editor ran a 2020 Legion 7 for over 2 years like this for the majority of our video editing and the machine is still running strong
@@MashITTech that’s great, also on the product website for where I’m looking to buy it it doesn’t say what refresh rate the monitor is, is it 1440p 144hz?
As long as its this years Legion Pro 5/5i it will either have the 2560x1600 165hz or 240hz panel. The 240hz is the better panel in colour and speed but both are good panels and 500 nits of brightness
@@MashITTech I think this model may be the 165hz because the price is lower than I would expect, it’s 1799 Canadian. It doesn’t state in the specifications if it’s 240hz, I would assume not since it’s the 16gb pro5 4070 model
Thank you for the video. Is 250-300€ difference worth it to get 4070 instead of 4060 ? Or for the price difference and 20% more perf, it is too much money ?
For me no, I would rather push uptown a 4080 as that is a real jump in performance. I have been using the 4060 at 1600p and with the right settings it has played every game I own well, the extra few frames you would get from the 4070 is not worth the extra cost IMHO
@@MashITTech thx. For me it would be for world of warcraft (at work), some dead by daylight, and content creation with Vegas pro 17. Looking for 2 setups in those black Friday weeks Légion pro 5i -------------------- 13500HX No windows 32go 1 to WQXVA 240hz 500 nits 4060 Total : 1679€ instead of 1879€ Légion pro 5 ------------------- 7745HX No windows 32 go 1 to WQXVA 500 nits 240 he 4060 Total : 1727€ instead of 2169€ Same with 4070 : +250€ We will see the deals in a few weeks (Europe)
wow can't believe the ryzen is more expensive for you! IMHO I would get which ever one comes up cheapest! the 13500HX was a great CPU for gaming and content creation, so don't worry about it being an i5
I found this Lenovo laptop on Amazon: Lenovo Legion 5i Gaming Laptop, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8G, 16” WQXGA Display, Intel Core i7-14650HX, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 2560x1600 px, Windows 11, Luna Grey For $1499.99 Is it worth the purchase? It’ll be my first laptop for work and gaming.
Unfortunately you just missed one! It isn't on offer at the second but keep your eye on HUKD as we normally post them there, here was the one that just expired: www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-legion-pro-5-16-wqxga-240hz-ryzen-7-7745hx-rtx-4070-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-no-os-with-code-at-lenovo-4166902
@@tapiwanashendhlovu8468 on UK website, I specced my 5 Pro to 1188 Pounds, NO Windows, upped to 4060, 1TB, 32GB RAM, 3 year warranty and put 7645Hx, 6 core but Zen 4 very capable Cpu more than enough for my needs..
Good afternoon.I don't know much English.And on the internet, there is not a single video review of laptop data in my language.I would like to ask your opinion so that you can recommend it? Laptop Lenovo Legion Pro 5 16IRX8 i7-13700HX 16" WQXGA 240Hz 32GB 1000SSD RTX4060 Price 2 224,38€ Lenovo Legion Pro 5 laptop 16" WQXGA, 240 Hz, AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Price 2050€ I choose a laptop for studying at the school of graphic design.I apologize if I made mistakes. Thank you for your help🤝
no, your English is very good 👍 Take the Ryzen with 4070 for the cheaper price! the ryzen CPU is fantastic and very efficient and the 4070 is a fair bit better than 4060 plus its actually cheaper!
The reason why the intel version has 4800mhz rams is because i5-13500hx and i7-13700hx only support up to 4800mhz, whereas the i9-13900hx supports 5200mhz as well as the ryzen ones.
It is a worthy upgrade for the CPU alone, ryzen have made massive strides this year. The 4060/4070 are not a massive leap in performance but you do get frame generation which can help
@@MashITTech If you say midrange gaming, I have in mind LOQ 16i, which with 4060, i7-13620H, 3 year on-site warranty, came to just under 1050 Pounds.. I tried LOQ 15 in Currys, really nice build, nothing creaks, open a poop load of RUclips videos playing same time on 1440p, several windows also, wanted to hear how loud fans will get-I did not hear anything even after 15, and CPU was at 6% load only, CPU and GPU temps 51 Celsius.. fully respectable, so not sure , besides more premium build and design that Pro 5 will perform better... But yes, they are all grand laptops.. Maybe 4050 in LOQ would make it look less strong against 5 Pro..
my laptop is a intel one and had 4800mhz of ram recently task manager is showing 5200MT/s why though I mean recently I had rest my laptop but still how has that increased to 5200
@@MashITTech no I swear the posted a laptop in Instagram which says Lenovo legion 5i Ryzen 7 7735h rtx 4060 for 1099$,also Lenovo legion 5 Ryzen 7 7735hs rtx 4060 for 1150$. I read as the picture said and I don't know do iam wrong?
@@MashITTech I feel they typed that wrongly,but do you think Ryzen 7 7735h better or Ryzen 7 7735hs,also do you think 1099$ good price for that ? It is new laptop with 16gb and 512gb SSD 2k screen
@@MashITTech Just casual gaming ,all in all a better laptop and i seen Slim 7 it is more premium aluminium build ,reviews are better on Slim 7 , thank you ❤
watching this on my Legion Pro 5 7745HX with 4070 🔥
Hope you are enjoying it 👍
how are you liking it?
How are the temps in games. It reaches 100 most times that I have seen. Also is your ryzen cpu able to do content creation task easily since PPL generally go for Intel in that case .
Bro how much did you pay?
Having an AMD Legion 7 myself, I have probably leaned AMD a bit, but think I have begun to change my mind somewhat when they just dropped their competitive GPU line for laptops. But what I wanted to say was that the comparison doesn't seem quite fair when you get a better GPU to compensate for the lower price of the CPU, but then don't use the tuning tools that comes on the Intel-version.
A great, comprehensive review, as always. It didn't leave me with any questions. Well done.
Thank you mate :)
You actually one of the few who specified that there were both versions. I was getting lost between the 5i and 5. But now i know
THANKS FOR DOING THIS REVIEW! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO MADE A COMPARISON BASED ON VALUE OF MONEY . exactly what i had in mind!
So glad to be able to help :)
@@MashITTech just bought the Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 i7-13700HX, more value for money, but still gotta say that if legion and predator same price for the same spec, i would definitely choose legion as the UI/software look so much more crisp
Lenovo's wave of mega silent firings in early 2023 were absolutely despicable. They laid of thousands of really great people after posting record profits and bragging about moving up the Forbes list each quarter in their "All Hands" NA org sales meetings to those people that moved the needle for them. They ruined thousands of people's lives, especially those that relocated and even bought new homes during the peak of covid when Lenovo asked for their dedication to support and grow the business. Their warranty process is atrocious and considered terrible by anyone who has had to deal with service claims on top of this.
Thanks for the review. Well done video! I went w the Intel 5i Pro as a desktop replacement. I'm a casual gamer so minor graphical differences are not a big deal to me. A great gaming/everyday laptop at a $1,500 price point.
Thank you for your review, quite in-depth and helps me choose especially the part about build quality.
I believe that the i5-13500hx limits ram speeds to 4800mhz, whereas the 7745hx doesn’t. My i7-13700hx does the same, so I believe that the only way to get faster ram speeds with the intel version is to go with an i9.
Thanks for the great comparison, though! I initially thought that the 4060 and 4070 were *much* closer in performance!
However, since the 4060 laptop card is the exact same as the 4060 desktop card, I’d be very interested to see how the 4070 mobile stacks up against a desktop 4060ti (8gb) after seeing these results. I’ve been wondering for awhile, yet there still isn’t a *single* video comparison on RUclips, which I find odd. The 4070(m) draws less power (115watt vs 160watt) and runs at a slightly lower frequency, but also has more cuda cores (4608 vs 4352), as well as more TMU’s, tensor cores as well as RT cores. All things considered, I think that would make for a great comparison! My guess, is that the 4070(m) is *slightly* less powerful than the 4060 ti due to power/frequency limits, but all of its other specs are better on the 4070(m), so who knows! 🤷♂️
Would that be a video you’d ever consider doing?
@stefdezy1562 hey I am thinking to buy the pro 5i with i7 4060 …. What’s your experience with it ?
@@dsp5555did you buy it?
@@davidk4082 Yeap I did I bought the intel version with i7 13700hx 4060
@@dsp5555 how are you liking it? I have the g14 but thinking of returning it for a 5i.
i litreally love this thing. I had tested various laptops before buying this, and g14 was one of the worst experience the small track pad , small battery, no pd on type c . If u thinking between 5i and g14 i would recommend 5i 100%.
My review - Laptop gives excellent performance and gpu overclock option in vantage app is cherry on top. But my cpu was reaching 97-98 c on the first day and after adding cooling pad and making some changes in vantage apps keeps it below 90 for most of the games.
I play valo , fortnite, modern warfare.
@@davidk4082
I wonder why the AMD version doesn’t have advanced Optimus. Most of the 2023 ones do. That HX chip is too power hungry though. A 7940HS might’ve actually been pretty good here.
yeah no idea why no advanced Optimus on ryzen! And you are right, the 7940HS would have been a good option. They offer a Ryzen 9 7945HX at least
Apparently Ryzen + HDR + Advanced Optimus don't play nice together so that's went the AMD version doesn't have advanced Optimus. If you got the regular non HDR screen advanced Optimus should work
@@MrLawlessGaming what’s weird is neither does the new Legion Slim 5 14” with the AMD HS chips, yet the Asus Zephyrus G14 has it and it works great, even on the HDR displays.
i noticed in 2023 thinner laptops are getring thinner and thicker laptops are getting thicker. You know what i mean🤔
What do you mean?
few previous laptops which are thinner got a bit thicker
I had so bad expirences with amd in the past
Amd GPU shitting its pants right out of the box made me a hater...unbox ur new GPU and its bricked gg nope
In the UK the AMD Alienware M16 is now under £1600 so now deciding between that and a Legion 5. Also X16 is under £1900, so seems pretty pointless to judge Alienwares by their initial pricing for the first couple of months.
Yes, I spotted the price drops! it is about time, there were quite over priced on launch. The m16 is a solid unit and I would probably take that over the x16 just for the better cpu and upgradable ram
It is not a UK thing, in my country, Malaysia also comes with 5200Mhz DDR5 for the Ryzen 7 and 4800Mhz for the Intel version
@Mash IT what Programm do you use to check the max. Brightness and the color-"panel" sRGB or DCI-P3" at minute 07:41? ❤
Your review was great.
Waiting for a Legion Pro 5 16IRX8 with 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900HX, 32GB DDR5-5600, RTX 4060, M.2 2280 SSD 1TB, 500 nit 240Hz display... for 1,177 GB Pound (AU$2,249) at recent Black Friday sale.
Yesterday, I ordered the same specifications, but with the RTX4070 version
@snowandl4195 I wonder if it is good to edit 4K video.
@@someoneelse95 It has not arrived yet. It is still with the shipping company, but everyone who received it was happy. I was kind of apprehensive
@@snowandl4195how are you liking it? Any backlight bleed?
@@davidk4082 The device is very wonderful for me, being a former user of the PC with an I7 7700k processor and a 1070 card, this laptop is very good for me and my work (very mobile) I use it as an office and for 3D projects
well, the lid is metal and intel's 13th gen i5 and i7 are capable of running 4800MHz RAM that's their limit where as ryzen 7000 series doesn't support ddr4 but 5200MHz RAM and should run 5600 as well but idk about it, furthermore in most of the titles like rdr 2, forza horizon 5 balanced mode gives same performance for better temps as far as I have noticed
Are you sure the lid is metal? mine felt plastic, I will double check. Also 4800mhz is not the limit on 13th gen, it was for 12th gen. I have the blade 16 and legion pro 7i both running at 5600mhz. I have just ordered some 5600mhz fury to try and bump this 5i to 5600mhz! I will let you know how it goes.
The 13th gen runs 5600Mhz RAM
@MP422ownz That's partially true. Check the intel specs. The 13500H and 13700HX do not support more than 4800MT/s while the 13700H and every 13th Gen i9 support more than 4800MT/s.
And @hsuyaager8557 Not every 7000series supports 5200MT/s, but all the Ryzen configurations for Lenovo Legion 5 Pro do.
Dave seems too excited to be able to use one hand for this laptop... why is that other hand so busy David?
well like you said, its a good looking laptop :)
lmaoooo
Literally cannot makeup my mind. I have a Legion 5 Ryzen 7 (15ARP8) but just bought the Pro 5i with an i7 at a bargain. Love the larger 16:10 screen, but hate the huge power cord and seems the i7 is way overpowered for the 4060 and my needs. I literally would swap the i7 for the less powerful but more efficient Ryzen 7735HS in the 2023 Pro 5i body in a heartbeat for its better thermals and battery life.
I guess my best option for thermals, power mgmt and 16:10 would be the Legion Slim, only thing is they cost more for less RAM/SSD. :(
Thanks for review,this is so helpful.
Hi there, I’m planning to get this legion pro 5 with the AMD processor but I’m worried about that cpu temp, it even reaches 100c on some games. Is that normal? Or should I just get the asus ROG strix G16 with rtx 4060 variant? Please let me know, thanks!
i have exact same options of laptops to buy, pin me when you get answer pls
@@miraskarimov9932 I bought the legion. Yes, the high temp is there on some games but never reach 100c. Cooling pad helps.
iGPU was in use right ? not the nvidia one ? 13:51
What a great GREAT review. You're just great man! Thank you!!
Im thinking about buying a Legion Pro 5 AMD version. Non-Blackfriday price in Sweden is £2286 and blackfriday price is £1484. Question is, is it a good price and is it worth the money?
I bought my T14 three years ago thanks to your review of it. Great to see you're still around.
Haha that was my first video! Hopefully the production quality has improved over that 3 years 😂 how is the t14 holding up?
@@MashITTech Oh yes! You can really feel the work that goes into these videos. Congratulations on that. As for the computer, so far so good. I had to have the motherboard replaced a year ago but fortunately, as it's a Thinkpad, everything was covered by the warranty. They even added an extra 8gb of memory for free.
haha the extra 8gb is a nice bonus. That is one of the benefits of buying Lenovo with premium warranty (or dell XPS/alienware for that matter).
@@MashITTech yeah, I was pleasantly surprised!
They are actually in sale in my country and both of the model below are at the exact same price.
- R7-32GB-1TB-RTX 4070 - 240hz
- i7-32GB-1TB-RTX 4070 - 240hz
So if I understood the video, the Intel one would be the best value here, isn't it ? Even if my purpose is Gaming only ?
could add some simple numbers on the sustained clocks during gaming and power consumption, that would explain the higher ryzen temps as they are more efficient and thus boosting higher...
What is the best lenovo legion 5 for me?
Hello guys, in my country there are offers on the internet and I found 2 laptops, Lenovo Legion 5 laptops in:
1622 Dollars - Ryzen 7 8845HS with rtx 4070
1756 dollars - I9 14900HX with rtx 4060
I don't consider myself a gamer, I'm a java backend programmer, I see micro services, local and cloud database, etc. In my free time I play some video games. But, I like to run them smoothly. Also, my wife is a fashion design student, so we'll have to share the computer for certain heavier jobs, I imagine, Photoshop, illustrator, or related things.
That said, which laptop option would suit me best?
Awesome video! Thanks mate!
Thinking of getting this as an upgrade to my almost 4 year old Dell g3 i7 with 1660ti. Seems to be good value.
Thank you for posting, I’m looking at this laptop, so it’s good to have such a practical analysis. The Ryzen version looks liker a great choice for a gamer, but maybe a creator would like a few more QOL features for their daily use.
2023 and reviewers still don't use the YT feature to separate the timebar for the different part of the review ....
haha ok, let me take a look. Sorry my focus ia always on getting the reviews done 😂
i like the design of the legion slim 7 from (2022-2023 ...) i hope after 5/6 years when i buy a new laptop i will surely buy the legion slim 7/7i if it exist till then or if legion slim 9i comes. Legion slim 7i metal feels so premium and metallic
I keep looking at the new slim 7i, if I didn't have 4 laptops sitting here waiting for me to review I would definitely get it in 😂
no worries now i have already bought laptop i don't seek for much videos related to laptops . I think i have watched too many laptop videos. But i watch your videos🎉
haha thanks mate, it is appreciated :)
thats a CPU limitation for i5 and i7 13th gen HX which only supports RAM Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s & Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s. you need to get the i9 for support of higher RAM speeds
Sir can you please tell me what is the clock speed of 7745hx after disabling cpu turbo boost?
in india, there is price difference of 10,000INR(120USD according to conversion) between AMD 7745hx and i7 13700hx variant(Intel i7 is more expensive by 120USD). rest of the specifications are exactly same mentioned on the website. if budget allows both then which should be a better deal.
Same question
Same question, what did u decide on
@@HeroicGoose I will buy laptop next year for college and also gaming. Asked this question for better buying knowledge
Same question I had…after lot of research I am going for intel version
@@vaibhavdavar27amd have better bettery life
Looks like I have found my next laptop, the only thing that saddens me is the insane difference between amd and intel version and the lack of thunderbolt.
But come on, how can you launch a product in 2023 with 16 gb or RAM !?!?
to be fair, I chose 16gb as I planned to upgrade it myself as it is so much cheaper. A lot of the configs had 32gb. I was really impressed with the performance of the ryzen, hitting 5ghz when gaming really helps getting high fps on games that are mostly single threaded
@@MashITTech Thanks for the reply, that makes a lot of sense,i thought it was just because you chose two builds that cost th same. Personally I prefer intel for my desktop pc but I think for a laptop AMD makes a lot of sense, especialyl when the bang for buck is this good.
Yeah I did try and keep them both to the same £1400 budget, you just get a lot more for your money with amd! The charge from 16 to 32gb at Lenovo was more than I can buy a high spec 32gb 5500mhz kit so it seemed like a no brainer 😀👍
@@MashITTech Can you upgrade to faster RAM in the Intel version? I thought I spotted a vid a while back where you did just that to test if it works but when I went back to watch it later, I couldn't find it.
@MashITTech
Hi, towards the end of the video you talked about the AMD laptop which in the battery life test got around 10h. Can you tell me which ones? Thank you
Watching this on my Legion Pro 5 Gen 8 AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX (16") with RTX 4070. Had a few bugs when it shipped to me but the keyboard is rather amazing. I'm hoping to get a good 5 years out of this laptop.
Got this exact laptop 2 days ago. May I ask what bugs you had and what you did to fix them? Also do you have any tips? Maybe some recommendations idk.
@@HA-020 is the laptop good ? do you play any games?
@@ivanula6606 The laptop performs really good. The only thing is that it is on the heavier side but to be fair every laptop with the specs this laptop has is going to be heavy and a littlebit chunky because of the cooling it needs. Also a littlebit loud in performance mode but I would only use that when I’m at home gaming with headphones on. You can still game on quiet mode without any problems.
How about airpods connect by blootoohs? Is it work nice or bad?
Great video! Thanks 🙏🏼
very solid review, thanks!
Great review! I have one with 7745hx :) good machine in general. Don’t you know, is there any possibility to undervolt it? Thanks ps. I’m a bit disappointed with power consumption in idle mode… even if cpu has 0-1% load it still consumes 7-10 Watts, it can fall down to 4 Watts but really rare. Don’t you know about Intel? Does it also spin fans on idle?
I am still playing with it but I haven't found a way yet. Will keep you posted though. I love the fact it sits at 5ghz in games, that really helps performance. idle consumption is a real shame and leads to its poor battery life this year, I wonder if that is a byproduct of the increased cpu performance this year
Any update on how to undervolt the cpu?
Very good video nice and professional thank you.
thinking about buying one, but what do the temps look like on the amd cpu while web browsing and such?
If you want to buy a gaming laptop make sure to watch its review here.
thank you mate, that is very kind of you to say
great review keep it up
How does this computer support Corona Render? How many hours does it take to render?
I just picked up the legion slim 7i laptop. I'm confused by the hybrid integrated and dedicated graphics modes. I tried running the time spy benchmark, but it's only running off the Intel graphics. Should I just keep it on dGPU? And what would that cost me?
Only saying what i saw from jarrods vid, in the graphics settings or something you can choose whether you want to use hybrid which uses dGPU when plugged and unplugged iGPU. Dedicated GPU takes away power real fast and iGPU makes you a longer battery kife(so instead of using youtube for 1 hour you can use it for 5-6)
Good review. Is the Ryzen version still available in the UK for IRO £1400? I can only find it for £1800+.
You need to wait for a decent discount code. Keep an eye on hotukdeals, we normally post them on there when they come up 👍
Went for the Ryzen 7 version. I use it for farming simulator 22 at max graphics and AI work. It more than delivers. I do want to upgrade to 32GB for more performance.
did u buy it from the lenovo website?
on what resolution did you do the gameplay test with?
1600p ig
While customizing, the intel version only had the white backlit option for some reason.
oh weird, we had 4 zone colour in UK!
Hi! Great video.
1. Is the AMD Ryzen version good enough to edit 4K video?
2. Does Windows 11 include Office (Word, Excel, etc)?
3. Why people want Thunderbolt ports?
Thanks!
thank you. Answers to you questions: 1. Yes, easily. 2. Sadly not, M$ has never included office. 3. Thunderbolt is good for high speed data transfers and EGPUs but if you have a dedicated GPU then an EGPU is mostly pointless
@MashITTech Thank you. Today, I have bought a Legion Pro 5 16 (R9-Windows 11
Home-32GB-1TB-RTX 4070).
I'm about to go buy the Intel i7-13700HX with the RTX 4070...it's on sale since they're being replaced with gen 9. Hope it's worth it!
Is the review about the Razer Blade 14 cancellen?
Nope, working on it atm. Should be out next week.
Nice review. New to your channel. I found the whole video useful but I recommend adding time stamps in the future if possible.
Thanks mate, we usually do, I am not sure how I missed that one
Hello , about the battery , u meant it takes only 3/4 hours unplugged when you are playing video games or the average in general ? because im more curious abt baterry for college tbh , please response. thanks anticipated.
sadly, 3-4hrs light use! about 1-1.5 light gaming :(
Thanks a lot@@MashITTech
which one u think is better？legion 5pro （7745hx 4070 32ram）or slim 7i （i9 13900h 4070 16ram）with the second 50$less？
I prefer second
Great video bro. Love it. You need to make videos on Acer predator Helios neo 16
I will take a look but I have 5 laptops sitting in the studio waiting for a review 🤣
@@MashITTech alright mate 👍
Great review as always 💯 :)
Nice review. I have question though, if you can answer please. Can we upgrade this laptop to 64 GB?
haha that's good timing! I just put out a video upgrading the SSD and RAM :) ruclips.net/video/q_4NPOvpcks/видео.html
I just bought a legion slim 5 RTX4050 6GB/ RYZEN 7 7840HS. What is your opinion?
haven't tested it but I love legion slims and pros, great machines
Hi! Is it possible to downvolt the amd version?
Where is the razer bladw 14 review you promised?????????
It’s the next review. We are working on it atm
I plan to buy the ryzen version but isn't 90 degrees on the cpu a bit too much? rhe high temps doesnt affect its life span?
no, these AMD chips are designed to be able to run at just over 100c, 90 is fine! the intel is even hotter :)
Wow Legion 4070 actually 120-130 watts D: I thought 4070 was limited to 100 wattts
yeah, it wasn't constant but was nice to see! I never get that high on the blade 14
Yeah, I have the 4070 version (with an i7-13700hx), and I’m still always surprised when my GPU wattage jumps up to the advertised *140watts,* even if it’s just for a split second or two.
I previously had *two* other 4070 notebooks (which both needed to be returned), and they never even came close to 140watts (usually hovering around 100watts). For some reason, the legion 5i pro seems to do a much better job at using the full 115watt tdp, as well as even surpassing it into 120-130watts with cpu boost quite frequently.
Lenovo legion pro 5 amd ryzen 7 7745hx 16gb /8gb Graphics Nvidia GeForce RTX4060. 500Nits , 240Hz. is it good to buy. How long battery last
Is 8gb vram enough for all games with ultra settings
I am sure some games will exceed 8gb in ultra settings but in all honesty the 4070 isn’t the strongest card anyway so probably won’t be playing many games at 1600p ultra settings comfortably
@@MashITTech so should I get a 4070 laptop since 4080 laptop is too exp..because of frame regen and dlss 3 I can most games on 4070 laptop too right with few settings lowered down..
I have a lenovo legion 5 pro i5 13500hx rtx 4060 and the idle consumption is about 25-30 watts, I changed the version of the Windows system and drivers, but it doesn’t help, is this a warranty case? If there are no special complaints about its operation, except for battery life
it sounds like the Nvidia card is active! have you got a program polling the card? afterburner or monitor software are often culprits
❓Can I upgrade the RAM up to 64GB of the AMD version ? I ask this because the Lenovo website indicates up to 32GB. Thanks
you sure can, the Lenovo site is always out dated :)
@@MashITTech Thanks, So I've had placed my order for two sticks of 32GB each, and will let you know how it goes on the incoming weeks. thanks !
would a ram diference from 5200mhz to 5600mhz be noticeable?
Hi mate,I’m looking at this on the uk site,iv no clue about pc gaming,getting my son one for Christmas,wat would be better just for gaming the 4060 i7 intel or 4060 ryzen 7
For pure gaming get which ever one is cheaper, usually the ryzen. Ryzen had slightly better games performance but it was so close it wasn’t noticeable
@@MashITTech ok will do thanks for the help 👌🏻
Can you plug it in and connect it to a monitor and use it as a gaming desktop pc without issue?
you most certainly can and all the heat for the exhaust is vented out the back so its possible to run this laptop with the lid closed. Gary, my editor ran a 2020 Legion 7 for over 2 years like this for the majority of our video editing and the machine is still running strong
@@MashITTech that’s great, also on the product website for where I’m looking to buy it it doesn’t say what refresh rate the monitor is, is it 1440p 144hz?
As long as its this years Legion Pro 5/5i it will either have the 2560x1600 165hz or 240hz panel. The 240hz is the better panel in colour and speed but both are good panels and 500 nits of brightness
@@MashITTech I think this model may be the 165hz because the price is lower than I would expect, it’s 1799 Canadian. It doesn’t state in the specifications if it’s 240hz, I would assume not since it’s the 16gb pro5 4070 model
well the 165hz is great and if it turns out to be 240hz then its an even better deal :)
Thank you for the video.
Is 250-300€ difference worth it to get 4070 instead of 4060 ? Or for the price difference and 20% more perf, it is too much money ?
For me no, I would rather push uptown a 4080 as that is a real jump in performance. I have been using the 4060 at 1600p and with the right settings it has played every game I own well, the extra few frames you would get from the 4070 is not worth the extra cost IMHO
@@MashITTech thx.
For me it would be for world of warcraft (at work), some dead by daylight, and content creation with Vegas pro 17.
Looking for 2 setups in those black Friday weeks
Légion pro 5i
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13500HX
No windows
32go
1 to
WQXVA 240hz 500 nits
4060
Total : 1679€ instead of 1879€
Légion pro 5
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7745HX
No windows
32 go
1 to
WQXVA 500 nits 240 he
4060
Total : 1727€ instead of 2169€
Same with 4070 : +250€
We will see the deals in a few weeks (Europe)
wow can't believe the ryzen is more expensive for you! IMHO I would get which ever one comes up cheapest! the 13500HX was a great CPU for gaming and content creation, so don't worry about it being an i5
I found this Lenovo laptop on Amazon:
Lenovo Legion 5i Gaming Laptop, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8G, 16” WQXGA Display, Intel Core i7-14650HX, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 2560x1600 px, Windows 11, Luna Grey
For $1499.99
Is it worth the purchase? It’ll be my first laptop for work and gaming.
Hi Dave loved the video and wanted to know how I get the promo codes to make the price drop to £1400?
Unfortunately you just missed one! It isn't on offer at the second but keep your eye on HUKD as we normally post them there, here was the one that just expired: www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-legion-pro-5-16-wqxga-240hz-ryzen-7-7745hx-rtx-4070-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-no-os-with-code-at-lenovo-4166902
@@MashITTech thanks will keep a look out
@@tapiwanashendhlovu8468 on UK website, I specced my 5 Pro to 1188 Pounds, NO Windows, upped to 4060, 1TB, 32GB RAM, 3 year warranty and put 7645Hx, 6 core but Zen 4 very capable Cpu more than enough for my needs..
@@shitmir dam , congrats you found it at a great price , I might wait again for a better deal😊
@@MashITTech hope we get another like this , maybe on Black Friday ❤
Good afternoon.I don't know much English.And on the internet, there is not a single video review of laptop data in my language.I would like to ask your opinion so that you can recommend it?
Laptop Lenovo Legion Pro 5 16IRX8 i7-13700HX 16" WQXGA 240Hz 32GB
1000SSD RTX4060
Price 2 224,38€
Lenovo Legion Pro 5 laptop 16" WQXGA, 240 Hz, AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070
Price 2050€
I choose a laptop for studying at the school of graphic design.I apologize if I made mistakes.
Thank you for your help🤝
no, your English is very good 👍 Take the Ryzen with 4070 for the cheaper price! the ryzen CPU is fantastic and very efficient and the 4070 is a fair bit better than 4060 plus its actually cheaper!
Doesn’t AMD version have cpu overclocking?.. as its also a unlocked cpu
I haven't worked out a way to overclock yet sorry
Just picked up a ryzen for $270 U.S. Seems like I made a pretty good buy.
Is that a typo? 270? That’s the deal of the century!
No typo. Clearance out at a big box retailer for $399 offered $150, with 3yr warranty and tax $270.
Between a R9 7945Hx with 4060 and R7 7745hx with 4070 what would be the better system ?
I would take the better gfx card every time unless gaming isn’t a priority
@@MashITTech Ty for your response, so i should go with the better cpu if i want to game and future proof myself
laptop review in BS English is refreshing, since majority are in US English. makes the laptop sounds classier.
Haha thanks mate, not often I get a compliment for being British 😂
I like plastic over aluminum I bought a new 7i and dropped my phone on it accidentally from like 5 inches and it literally dented it.
Is 1600p worth it? because its only 16 inch. it much better than 1920x1200?
Did Lenovo discontinue the regular Legion 5 non pro version?
No there are still out there mate
Mine already has some white burn in but it is mostly only visible on white background.
oh wow, that's not good. On the IPS 2560x1600 panel?
@@MashITTech Yes but i called Lenovo and they can apparently replace it for free with my warranty.
The reason why the intel version has 4800mhz rams is because i5-13500hx and i7-13700hx only support up to 4800mhz, whereas the i9-13900hx supports 5200mhz as well as the ryzen ones.
Did you noticed that the battery drops even when plugged in while gaming?
I haven't noticed that at all
It's probably on conservation mode
Is this worth of an upgrade over my 3070 150 watt and 5800h? My CPU is always bottlenecked in every new game this year.
It is a worthy upgrade for the CPU alone, ryzen have made massive strides this year. The 4060/4070 are not a massive leap in performance but you do get frame generation which can help
Has these laptops have g sync displays?
yes :)
I buy the 2024 LEGION PRO 5-16IRX G9 i7-14700HX & 4070 for 1,799€
that's a good price! Hope you enjoy it.
@daniilchilt14j91 also bought the same thing and it'll be delivered soon
, how's the lap?
@@kirubhanandanjothi5031 for me is Perfect! Only Battery Life is very short but for ist ok I use it only pluggedin, In school and home
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it
@@MashITTech If you say midrange gaming, I have in mind LOQ 16i, which with 4060, i7-13620H, 3 year on-site warranty, came to just under 1050 Pounds.. I tried LOQ 15 in Currys, really nice build, nothing creaks, open a poop load of RUclips videos playing same time on 1440p, several windows also, wanted to hear how loud fans will get-I did not hear anything even after 15, and CPU was at 6% load only, CPU and GPU temps 51 Celsius.. fully respectable, so not sure , besides more premium build and design that Pro 5 will perform better... But yes, they are all grand laptops.. Maybe 4050 in LOQ would make it look less strong against 5 Pro..
that's a good looking laptop
Great video ❤
Thank you!!
Hey, why doesnt it have HYBRID MODE off switch?
my laptop is a intel one and had 4800mhz of ram recently task manager is showing 5200MT/s why though I mean recently I had rest my laptop but still how has that increased to 5200
Do these have thunderbolt 4 port?
No
Is this laptop VR ready or can I play VR in some way?
I don’t have VR to test but providing you can get the right cables there is no reason it won’t work
Hey which one you prefer
1-lenovo legion 5 rtx 4060 ryzen 7 7735hs
2-lenovo legion 5i rtx 4060 ryzen 7735h
Both similar in price a bit
can you check your second option did you mean 13700h?
@@MashITTech no I swear the posted a laptop in Instagram which says Lenovo legion 5i Ryzen 7 7735h rtx 4060 for 1099$,also Lenovo legion 5 Ryzen 7 7735hs rtx 4060 for 1150$.
I read as the picture said and I don't know do iam wrong?
5i is always intel, 5 is ryzen
@@MashITTech I feel they typed that wrongly,but do you think Ryzen 7 7735h better or Ryzen 7 7735hs,also do you think 1099$ good price for that ? It is new laptop with 16gb and 512gb SSD 2k screen
@@MashITTech ?
What game 13:07?
DOTA 2, free on steam
Hi what you will chose between Pro 5 and Slim 7 if price are similar, I don’t mind battery and portability, thanks 😀
If it’s pure gaming I would get the pro 5, if it’s work and play then the slim 👍
@@MashITTech Just casual gaming ,all in all a better laptop and i seen Slim 7 it is more premium aluminium build ,reviews are better on Slim 7 , thank you ❤
yes, I would get the slim in that case:)
@@MashITTech Thanks again ,all the best :D
vale la pena comprar lenovo pro 5 ryzen 7745 hx rtx 4070 8 gb en 2024 a 1.879 dolares??