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  • @SkillUp
    @SkillUp  Месяц назад +22

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    • @user-lz5vh9bb5w
      @user-lz5vh9bb5w Месяц назад +7

      No thank you, not interested in advertisements.

    • @tomh5094
      @tomh5094 Месяц назад +3

      You should really look into the people behind ag1 and see how you still feel about advertising for them.

    • @user-lz5vh9bb5w
      @user-lz5vh9bb5w Месяц назад +2

      @@tomh5094 He won't, it's just money to him.
      He advertises every single video like a true sellout.

    • @robertlawrence9000
      @robertlawrence9000 Месяц назад

      I have zero interest in Marathon. The trailer does not look interesting and the idea of an extraction shooter over making a better Destiny is annoying. I really wish Bungie would make Destiny with huge open worlds. Make a full solar system or universe like No Man's Sky but with Destiny character gameplay! Maybe some space battles like No Man's Sky too. That would be the ultimate next gen game to me not what we are dealing with now. Not Marathon. It's looking bleak. Come on Bungie! Remember the ambition of years past? Well, maybe not. A lot of the original visionaries are gone and now there are a bunch of weirdos running the show. It's very sad and disappointing.

    • @Dan016
      @Dan016 Месяц назад

      The best/most interesting highlight of this FPS episode was actually the GI segment, in my opinion. I got the impression that while it was sad to see another print magazine close down (and let’s be real infuriating the way they did it) the team was more focused on the part that they wouldn’t be with their co-workers in that same environment again.
      Initially, I was thinking the Jason Schreier segment was going to add more insight into what happened with Bungie, but it was (unfortunately) still pretty vague, or information that’s been covered before, but whatever this “refactoring” thing is…well, I guess only time will tell to give us more clarification

  • @MattEffectGames
    @MattEffectGames Месяц назад +426

    You missed out asking Jason what releases first, Marathon or Ralph’s final shape review

    • @krmag556
      @krmag556 Месяц назад +7

      😂😂😂

    • @niceguywillis9711
      @niceguywillis9711 Месяц назад +44

      We are still waiting for the BG3 review. Get in line.

    • @ashruthbidesi9632
      @ashruthbidesi9632 Месяц назад +4

      Sekiro review

    • @iouplayyy9191
      @iouplayyy9191 Месяц назад +2

      ​@niceguywillis9711 he stopped playing it that's why

    • @ajbawesome
      @ajbawesome Месяц назад +3

      Ralph’s bg3 review lmao

  • @DanielSantos-ym8vd
    @DanielSantos-ym8vd Месяц назад +706

    Bungie does literally nothing to try to capture new players.

    • @6043860438
      @6043860438 Месяц назад +51

      Its the biggest flaw next to the endgame, new players don't stick around once they see how much they have to spend for more content then once you've done every raid multiple times and got every weapon what's left use your arsenal in

    • @Muppet-kz2nc
      @Muppet-kz2nc Месяц назад +36

      yeah i tried getting friends into Destiny over the past year but the new player experience and hundreds of dollars in DLC packs killed it.

    • @Mediados
      @Mediados Месяц назад +66

      When they just dumped the entire early-game experience, the message was clear. New players aren't welcome.

    • @SilverSurfer17
      @SilverSurfer17 Месяц назад +7

      Yeah that always confused me. My irl friends would ask & sadly I had to tell them no just play something else.

    • @Ssalamanderr
      @Ssalamanderr Месяц назад +22

      I tried getting into it recently, then realized there was no way to actually experience the full story. Also the experience was bewildering as I was constantly teleported around while being bombarded by ads

  • @JoshKanap
    @JoshKanap Месяц назад +327

    Thankful Jake clarified his love for the gang after Lucy absolutely fucking destroyed him over Mario and Sonic

  • @GhostRydr1172
    @GhostRydr1172 Месяц назад +405

    I can maybe understand ending the print side of Game Informer. But nuking the whole website as well seems both shortsighted and VERY petty.

    • @TheSEOPub
      @TheSEOPub Месяц назад +9

      It costs money to host and maintain a website of that size.

    • @1_underthesun
      @1_underthesun Месяц назад +16

      As someone who worked at Gamestop as a teenager from 1995-1999, I was there for the early days of Game Informer. Granted I was likely biased, but I always thought it was the best video game magazine there was. I remember it going from a magazine that people associated exclusively to Gamestop/Funcoland into the 5th best selling magazine in America....not the 5th biggest VIDEO GAME magazine, the 5th biggest magazine period. Bigger than Sports Illustrated and Time magazine.
      Sad to hear they shut down, but such is the way of print media. Plus, I can't say if there were any other factors that lead to this as I haven't followed the magazine as much over the last 10 years.

    • @GhostRydr1172
      @GhostRydr1172 Месяц назад +2

      @1_underthesun I followed Game Informer for awhile, right until Game Stop nuked all stores down my neck of the woods. Given Game Stop's recent financial woes I assumed their nuking GI would've happened earlier, tbh. Still a bummer it happened anyways.

    • @1_underthesun
      @1_underthesun Месяц назад

      @@GhostRydr1172 Actually, GI was the balloon that was largely keeping Gamestop afloat... at least from 2010-2015 when games started going digital. 2010 was when GI reached its peak and surpassed magazines like Sports Illustrated, Time, and even Playboy is sales.

    • @nickh4354
      @nickh4354 Месяц назад +3

      Honestly, be honest with yourself and others. Nobody gave a shit about game informer since 2010

  • @victorbertini5614
    @victorbertini5614 Месяц назад +120

    When I am in a "not posting the finals shape review" competition, but my opponent is skill up:
    ╭( ๐_๐)╮

  • @thealldayspecial
    @thealldayspecial Месяц назад +121

    People are smoking something thinking Marathon was some beloved household title that can sell on name alone. You literally had to have a Mac that could game to play it new back in the day and even then it was holding distinction at a time when shooters barely had much plot or in game lore. It was objectively a pretty geeky cult game for the times.

    • @1_underthesun
      @1_underthesun Месяц назад +15

      I'm a hardcore gamer since the NES days, and I'd never heard of Marathon until Bungie announced this new one. Granted, I've never had an apple or mac product, but even so, if someone like me hasn't heard of it, then its branding likely isn't as powerful as they think it is.

    • @kilowyatt1107
      @kilowyatt1107 Месяц назад +5

      Exactly, I think people just like talking about how Marathon has crazy lore then the real game.

    • @joshuak5798
      @joshuak5798 Месяц назад +3

      @@1_underthesunI think it’s fair to say anyone who was aware of Bungie before Destiny was probably aware of Marathon prior to Halo, given it’s influence

    • @Chillantro
      @Chillantro Месяц назад +8

      @@joshuak5798been playing bungie games since halo ce. Never heard of marathon until they announced the new one

    • @nucklehead718
      @nucklehead718 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@joshuak5798 here goes a Bungie white knight with another crazy bias assumption. Same reason why the game died... sunsetting was fine right?...
      I been gaming since Atari and calecovision never heard of marathon.
      You gotta stop thinking so highly of Bungie. You sound like you are repeating something you heard in a video that was explaining marathon to people that never played it.
      Bungie wasnt popular or known by the masses until Halo. I'm an 80s baby I was actually there.

  • @GeremyG
    @GeremyG Месяц назад +344

    Bungie leadership really greenlit a mobile game over Destiny 3. I guess Pete needs more cars.

    • @atiskidd
      @atiskidd Месяц назад +24

      NetEase gave Bungie $100 million to make it happen. NetEase even got a seat on the board where the pressure on Parsons to deliver comes from.

    • @Muppet-kz2nc
      @Muppet-kz2nc Месяц назад +20

      mobile games make more money than PC games by a significant amount

    • @Chocula
      @Chocula Месяц назад +15

      Can you blame them? I get hating Bungie for laying people off but now people are mad they're trying to make money? Do you know how much money games like Honkai Star Rail or Zenless Zone Zero make companies? It's been less than a month and Zenless Zone Zero has made 96 million USD worldwide.

    • @thrilla72
      @thrilla72 Месяц назад +8

      The story they had for Destiny in the beginning has been used up. What we have now IS what Destiny 3 would've been

    • @bkirke
      @bkirke Месяц назад +6

      ​@@Muppet-kz2ncMore than PC and console combined in 2022.

  • @LloydDunamis
    @LloydDunamis Месяц назад +52

    Supplemental Timestamps _(unsure if I'll continue to the others)_
    09:32 With Jason Schrier
    11:53 Bungie layoff
    16:29 Bungie overpromising to Sony; opinion towards CEO
    21:11 Layoff's effect on The Final Shape chapter
    23:40 Destiny not growing; The future for Destiny
    25:59 Sentiments for the future of Destiny
    31:27 Temperature check for Marathon
    36:53 How Jason got to converse with Bunjie peers
    42:11 What happened to Payback or Destiny 3?
    52:34 Sony's live service game push
    57:24 Jason's outro
    Let me know of subtopic/edit or rewording of timestamps suggestions and extras.

    • @nickd7935
      @nickd7935 Месяц назад

      The beginning of FPS’s very own NoKi1119 lets goooo

    • @RC93725
      @RC93725 Месяц назад +3

      Thanks bc i needed to skip this whole segment

  • @Petrical
    @Petrical Месяц назад +138

    3+ hour FPS podcast is just what I need in my life rn

  • @MisterK-YT
    @MisterK-YT Месяц назад +145

    My heart hurt for Jake when he told them he loves them and they didn’t say it back. Lucy eventually said it, but socio-SkillUp didn’t.

    • @GameoftheYear-fx4mq
      @GameoftheYear-fx4mq Месяц назад +27

      Jake has always been the more emotional of the three, you can tell he does all of this for passion and loves his job from watching gameranx. Skill up and lucy on the other hand, they're awesome but it's just a job for them.

    • @greenboots_4661
      @greenboots_4661 Месяц назад +164

      @@GameoftheYear-fx4mq ^parasocial relationship moment, you don't know any of them bro

    • @vladb_
      @vladb_ Месяц назад +9

      If you say "I love you" back, you must marry this person 😅

    • @666slateran666
      @666slateran666 Месяц назад +10

      Ralph is too Chad to say love ya. Look at that chin 💪

    • @reevesT94
      @reevesT94 Месяц назад +11

      It's an American thing to say 'I love you (guys)' more casually. I'm pretty sure the rest of the world doesn't really share the same kind of sentiment. (Apart from calling you 'luv'- maybe)

  • @CalixtoErico
    @CalixtoErico Месяц назад +56

    Marathon is gonna sink the ship for good.

  • @DiegoLZ
    @DiegoLZ Месяц назад +143

    Labor laws in the US are so sad. Almost makes it laughable that there is a holiday called Labor day.

    • @life-destiny1196
      @life-destiny1196 Месяц назад +4

      You're right, but it's also true that it's come a long way too. Should see what they did to the people who were asking for a second day off a few generations back.

    • @eric7591
      @eric7591 Месяц назад +29

      @@life-destiny1196 You are also absolutely right compared to how it used to be, but that was 84 years ago. We have actually lost ground since the '80s. Labor laws in the US are horrific, and everyone who works for a wage that is below what they deserve should be furious. Go Union.

    • @casthedemon
      @casthedemon Месяц назад

      ​@@eric7591to be fair. Were talking about gaming. It's an artistic endeavor. Not really a real labor job. Especially in the eyes of the law. It's a relatively new field and there's a lot of things about the industry that's volatile. And volatile fields don't mesh well with stability. It's hard to have labor laws in fields that aren't stable. Look at Immortals of Aveum. A really good game that by all metrics should've done really well. But it was 50% off in 30 days from launch. The studio went under. Can't have labor unions when the market can change so quickly like that. Think of game devs more like rock bands than like an actual office job. That's a more apt comparison. Since like a band, their profit is based on sales and marketability. Not any concrete goods they produce. So much of it depends on their performance. Just like a band. Does it suck? Yeah. But that's part of game development. They just need to expect it and plan around it.

    • @twentyarms
      @twentyarms Месяц назад +7

      They created that holiday to peel off US workers from celebrating May Day (the international labor holiday)

    • @jordannoell4222
      @jordannoell4222 Месяц назад +5

      ​@life-destiny1196 The majority of the US is still a "right to work" state that allows employers to fire employees for almost any reason with few exceptions. The US has some of the poorest worker protections of any 1st world country, hell they are even worse than several 2nd world countries. Paid maternity leave isn't even a thing, and the last time it was proposed in congress it literally ground the negotiations to a halt.

  • @Ninjachickenfingers
    @Ninjachickenfingers Месяц назад +35

    “Gamecock? That would’ve had to be rebranded”
    The University of South Carolina: 😲

    • @VladShpiro
      @VladShpiro Месяц назад

      Could be a gamer tag in early Xbox Live days, like GameCock69420

    • @aiwash2766
      @aiwash2766 Месяц назад +1

      Ha wonder how many other people in this comment section got this joke

  • @kayval274
    @kayval274 Месяц назад +43

    I hope the person who made the sound for the warlock stasis super is doing well 😭

    • @adamcallaghan2135
      @adamcallaghan2135 Месяц назад +1

      The new titan void super has some dope sound also. 👌

  • @The_Stapher
    @The_Stapher Месяц назад +17

    1:06:00
    “Press R2. See what happens”
    Jake’s whole bit here was hysterical. I want that line printed on a shirt 😂

  • @njsteere
    @njsteere Месяц назад +19

    5:20 France Per Second was RIGHT THERE Jake.

  • @Rance53
    @Rance53 Месяц назад +31

    Damn, all that praise for their boss. Thats exceptionally rare how genuine they were in their praise. All businesses should strive to have leadership like that

  • @jaymanishere13
    @jaymanishere13 Месяц назад +158

    Bungie made the same mistake as Blizzard. Not making a proper sequel to their moneymaker, and milking it out into mediocrity

    • @SeanBotha
      @SeanBotha Месяц назад +11

      Get woke go broke

    • @GhostRydr1172
      @GhostRydr1172 Месяц назад +89

      Gotta love the bigots and their insightful insight...

    • @Chopzi11a
      @Chopzi11a Месяц назад +2

      @@GhostRydr1172 I wouldn’t call Bungie or Blizzard insightful, but to each their own

    • @ROFLtheWAFL
      @ROFLtheWAFL Месяц назад +34

      ​@@Chopzi11a Yes, the gay characters are the problem on Destiny 2

    • @colinhobbs7265
      @colinhobbs7265 Месяц назад +18

      Destiny 2 has always been making money. Their issue is that they started dumping a bunch of money into other projects.

  • @koryharreschou2815
    @koryharreschou2815 Месяц назад +5

    That was an amazing chat with previous GI employees, really appreciate you guys shining a light on them!

  • @MattFillman
    @MattFillman Месяц назад +26

    Take a shot every time Ralph asks if you know what he means, it's a fun ride. 😉

    • @Tyr808
      @Tyr808 Месяц назад +4

      Finally, a drinking game with a meaningful death count

    • @wizborne637
      @wizborne637 Месяц назад

      Add one for every verbal filler use of ‘like’ from Lucy and get a hangover that lasts till the next podcast.

  • @tuffc00kie
    @tuffc00kie Месяц назад +7

    3:04:54 Welcome to the fold, Ralph. Andor is the best thing to happen to Star Wars since Rogue One. It’s devastating that its planned four seasons got prematurely cut because audiences complain about film/tv not respecting their intelligence but then can’t be bothered to engage with something as brilliantly written and performed as Andor because it doesn’t hold their hand.

  • @aboyles21
    @aboyles21 Месяц назад +13

    The GI interview shook me up. I think so many of us grew up with the publication. It was my first idea that you could WORK in games. Hope the best for those guys.

  • @abhijeetpoudel5919
    @abhijeetpoudel5919 Месяц назад +68

    Bungie CEO : Look guys this is such a cool car collection I have!!
    Oh and you're fired. Taa Taa🥰

    • @walalon8719
      @walalon8719 Месяц назад

      Pete: "I can ride you to your house on my new old car bro!"

    • @WHlSKYtx
      @WHlSKYtx Месяц назад +3

      Congrats on reusing the same joke 1000 times

    • @JulesNekro
      @JulesNekro Месяц назад +5

      @@WHlSKYtx yes, the star wars outlaws comments are already feeling like bot comments

    • @buggy89
      @buggy89 Месяц назад

      😅

  • @lukelaws3545
    @lukelaws3545 Месяц назад +6

    Skill up I’m glad you’re finally getting around to Andor, that show is brilliant

  • @bfedezl2018
    @bfedezl2018 Месяц назад +37

    Seriously it meme worth that the actual “the only thing that will kill Destiny is Destiny” only for it to not actually be Destiny itself but Bungie as a studio tanking because they didn’t invest more in Destiny.
    It is fucking baffling how mismanaged has been what is one of gaming biggest IPs ever. How do you miss manage such a success to the point of bankrupting the company

    • @Nick-cs4oc
      @Nick-cs4oc Месяц назад +4

      Because that wouldn’t make them MORE money, sustainability is never the goal

    • @Farowlol
      @Farowlol Месяц назад +4

      Destiny just isn't that profitable and it definitely isn't one of the biggest gaming IPs ever unless you're ignoring the 100 franchises above it on the list, some of which you've never heard of I guarantee.
      The writing was on the wall when they scammed their fans (myself included) with Destiny's original launch imho

    • @Grassdia
      @Grassdia Месяц назад +3

      @@Farowlolit is one of the biggest

    • @bfedezl2018
      @bfedezl2018 Месяц назад +5

      @@Farowlol No, it is objective. It is one of the biggest IPs in gaming whether you want to shit on it or not. But seeing how absolutely but hurt you are the one in with issues here is you. Also lmao someone with an anime pfp trying to be condescending is hilarious 😂

    • @Farowlol
      @Farowlol Месяц назад +2

      @@bfedezl2018 half as profitable as Onimusha says what?
      I wasn't being condescending, just honest.

  • @noobhemingway
    @noobhemingway Месяц назад +29

    I can't wait for the tea here lol.
    edit: Jason talking about his wife asking "Why are you playing this game you hate" hits too close man lmao. Like Ralph says, he's just like us fr.

  • @BuletPrufe
    @BuletPrufe Месяц назад +11

    Lmao Ralph just took over the podcast with Jason Schreier there holy hell

    • @braynjohnson4302
      @braynjohnson4302 Месяц назад +5

      Well they were talking Destiny. That’s Ralph’s realm to take over.

  • @arikapidgeon8933
    @arikapidgeon8933 Месяц назад +86

    Bro, no Olympics have been the same since 2012 because of the severe lack of Mario vs. Sonic. Best sports game of all time lmao

    • @RedSpy47
      @RedSpy47 Месяц назад +11

      There were Mario vs Sonic games in 2014, 2016, and 2020?

    • @arikapidgeon8933
      @arikapidgeon8933 Месяц назад +4

      @@RedSpy47 Oh WTF, I haven't actually owned a Nintendo system since the wii, so I'm clearly slacking

    • @Stefantius
      @Stefantius Месяц назад

      2020 is the goat​@@RedSpy47

    • @ytra1501
      @ytra1501 Месяц назад

      Apparently they ended their license for Mario and sonic at the Olympics so there won’t be any more of those games

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 Месяц назад

      better sports game then all of ea's current sports games xd

  • @ghoulio
    @ghoulio Месяц назад +18

    Ralph's long drawn out sighs hearing all the bad news happening at Bungie makes you really feel for him.

  • @danieljohn9257
    @danieljohn9257 Месяц назад +2

    One of the best episodes yet. And further proof that RUclips gaming content creators such as yourselves are the Journalists for the Journalists and a valuable piece of the gaming pie fans such as myself are hungry for!
    I feel spoiled with 3 incredible interviews in one episode, even though one of them obviously was unplanned… that is part of that proof I was referring to. Great Job everyone involved…Interviewers and Interviewees alike!
    From fans such as myself, we thank you!

  • @Proph3cy
    @Proph3cy Месяц назад +6

    Jason talking about D1 Black Garden, “No time to explain cause I have no time to explain” is such deep cut.

  • @CaptainNamikaze
    @CaptainNamikaze Месяц назад +5

    Ralph's Andor 'rant' was not a good time to start sipping on my drink. I almost choked, I laughed so hard.
    I also agree, it's the same reason why I love all the Klingon council meeting scenes of any Star Trek, or when they're sitting around discussing a problem to deal with on a ship or station. :D

  • @devak45167
    @devak45167 Месяц назад +49

    One of the biggest problems about Destiny is how it caters almost exclusively to hardcore veteran players. This makes it extremely unapproachable for new players or even returning players after a decent gap. I guess at this point they’re just abandoning any hope of expanding the player base. Hope that works for them

    • @VastlyPoor
      @VastlyPoor Месяц назад +5

      So true! It's a huge problem that will never be addressed, clearly. My bud decided to play again after stepping away after Red War. I don't mind helping him through "onboarding", but I had to write a technical manual for him to fill in the massive gaps the game doesn't explain for when I'm not online. That shouldn't be a thing, and not all players have buds to explain everything D2. 😢

    • @johnniewolf133
      @johnniewolf133 Месяц назад +13

      To be fair Destiny 2 shouldn't continue, the game itself has effectively come to an end with the Final Shape.
      There was no further need to stretch out the story and make more expansions and content. More games can be made within the universe absolutely but Destiny 2 itself really doesn't need to continue past the ending of the entire storyline. It is like making up another story after Return of the King, it will never reach the heights of the original storyline, it reached the pinnacle and concluded, wrapped up the majority of the story threads that mattered and doesn't need to go past that.
      It was surprising that any future content was being considered and implemented when it wasn't necessary. What should've happened was the unvaulting of all older campaigns and the merging of Destiny 1's campaign as well into 2 to tell the full story from beginning to end and finally allow new players a way to experience the entirety of it.
      There certainly are ways they can streamline it and make it coherent for players wanting to experience the story from beginning to end and that should've been the focus after wrapping up the Final Shape. It would tie a bow to the entire project and allow them to move on. 2 would continue making money from new leafs being able to get into it and they could shift budget to new projects without being tied down to one that has successfully wrapped up and ended on a high note.
      Unfortunately this hasn't happened and poor decisions were made about where to go after the Final Shape. It wouldn't have mattered anyways because executives decided that whatever arbitrary numbers they came up with, weren't met, and cut the whole tree off at its limbs because poor decisions are what they are paid obscene income for.

    • @thrilla72
      @thrilla72 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@VastlyPoorWell some of it needs to be down to the player experimenting themselves. There is too much expectation for hand holding

    • @soloalpaca5772
      @soloalpaca5772 Месяц назад +5

      To be fair, the hardcore playbase kinda keeps the lights on for them in their downtimes of content cuz were major grinders. They tried to cater to casual player base before and it almost ruined the hardcore scene. The casuals leave when content drought starts and hardcores stay. The on boarding definitely needs to be updated and how the monetize their expansions/dlc definitely need to work. Seeing a 400 to 500 price tag doesn't help in the slightest

    • @thealldayspecial
      @thealldayspecial Месяц назад

      @@johnniewolf133 I agree, very good comment, Bungie did goof it hard.
      It's one of those things from a practical standpoint where if all this big monumental innovation, next level Destiny in the modern world upping everything whatever was going to happen, it probably would've happened by now. Destiny seemed to always have limitations of the scope and scale of what Bungie physically could do for the game. Just because there was so much endless potential and "it could be bigger" doesn't mean it was going to happen, especially as Bungie plays with a less than ideal hand dealt over the years. I'm not surprised the game has fallen close to a minimum viable product when the game's core is an extremely old idea by modern gaming standards.
      It doesn't matter if there's "so many potential untold stories that can be told and places to go to", Bungie still has to essentially make a ton of stuff up(which often comes out a bit sketchy) and even then it could take a lot of convincing for the average and veteran player to get really invested or interested in seeing what happens.
      Even The Witness arguably was a weak villain as far as video game characters go and the more you really piece through the lore for it, it is absolute convoluted nonsense especially when aspects of the lore start contradicting and retconning retcons and other tweaks that really just make the character pretty corny. Do people really want to see Bungie try to make even more random villains seem extra big and scary?

  • @pattytrek1
    @pattytrek1 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you so much for the discussion with the Games Informer team. Read this for years and will miss it. My heart goes out to them all.

  • @Mildnumber4444
    @Mildnumber4444 Месяц назад +17

    Even as a former Destiny player, the amount of hope and copium players like Skillup and Paul Tassi have had for the game is really sad to watch. As soon as they let go of their pre-production team last year, I knew it was over for destiny, yet people still held out for a future. The fact that bungie had people who were devoted to the game and even people that worked for them clinging onto some kind of hope for a future is just on brand for their predetory practices by this point.

    • @nazgulsenpai
      @nazgulsenpai Месяц назад +3

      They're just not as smart as you. Why have hope for anything when were all going to die someday?

    • @Mildnumber4444
      @Mildnumber4444 Месяц назад +5

      @@nazgulsenpai it's not like my view was unique. Most of my friends and sources I found saw the writing on the wall. It seemed like only the super devoted were holding out. My question has always been "How can you possibly develop anything new for the game without an art design team?"

    • @teeman7137
      @teeman7137 Месяц назад +1

      For me it goes way back in destiny 1 beta were the promise at this time was a mmo-lite openworld fps. Then the game released and they changed almost every things. Most disappointed game ive ever experience in my life.

    • @xCalisSoul
      @xCalisSoul Месяц назад

      Just put the fries in the bag bro

  • @RizoftheDead
    @RizoftheDead Месяц назад +4

    To the first user question, my family are basically tech illiterate, never touch games, but I brought the VR set around for Thanksgiving one year and EVERY single member of the family had to try out the little simple underwater thing that came with it where you're just lowered into the ocean and look at all the creatures. Was a pretty fun time.

  • @christopherward3757
    @christopherward3757 Месяц назад +10

    The decision to make pieces of Destiny 2's story inaccessible just boggles my mind. Really hope (but won't expect) they hold execs accountable.

  • @EmmaEquinox
    @EmmaEquinox Месяц назад +4

    Man this was a CHONKY episode of great content
    Thank you guys! :D

  • @acrow5488
    @acrow5488 Месяц назад +4

    This may be my favorite episode of the show so far. Great guests, great conversation, and phenomenal insights from both. Much love to the crew.

  • @thosewhoslaytogetherstayto3412
    @thosewhoslaytogetherstayto3412 Месяц назад +1

    Was a long time listener of the Game Informer pod cast and the MinMaxx pod cast. WIsh you guys the best and always appreciated the quality and heart into all your work.

  • @assassineagle1
    @assassineagle1 Месяц назад +15

    why is Lucy always mewing lol

  • @arch0094
    @arch0094 Месяц назад +4

    1:02:32 Some great Indies to show are:
    1) Journey
    - melds that sensation of satisfying movement (sliding down sand dunes) with beautiful art style and music
    2) The Unfinished Swan
    - cool introduction to 1st person gameplay within an ‘artsy’ game. At the beginning the whole geometry of the game level/space is invisible as it’s all white. By aiming and ‘firing’ you spray paint over the surface, which gradually reveals the terrain around you and where to go. Later levels evolve further, but the start is such a captivating experience, and something only possible in the video game format
    3) Portal 1/2
    - while neither are technically ‘indie’ games, the first in particular is a shorter game. Great introduction to FPS style gameplay but without an actual gun. The puzzles are so satisfying, and the character GLADOS has to be one of the all time great video game villains. Again, it’s an experience only possible in the video game format.

  • @Joesmho23
    @Joesmho23 Месяц назад +5

    1:06:55 a bunch of friends came over and my PlayStation was in the living room. I put it on and eventually every few times we die we passed and tried to clear asap. They don’t play games much but we all got into it. Surprisingly effective game

  • @Tumbles703
    @Tumbles703 Месяц назад +8

    Any "Into The Light" clone released in the future will never hit like the recent one. Main reason that hit so well was TFS hype

    • @isaiahrawlinson4885
      @isaiahrawlinson4885 Месяц назад +1

      Exactly. I don't really get how they could build a business model around that type of content, especially if they're moving away from big expansions.
      Into the Light was a good time but the only reason my clan got on board was because Final Shape was around the corner and we hadn't booted the game in almost 6 months

  • @TheGlassSword
    @TheGlassSword Месяц назад +9

    Driving for 2.5 hours to a wedding perfect timing

  • @Glurfl
    @Glurfl Месяц назад +2

    Ralph, I fucking love listening to you talk about games and review stuff, even non-gaming media.
    Andor is fantastic and probably the best Disney will ever put out for decades. Excited for you to finish watching it.

  • @AA-ke5bd
    @AA-ke5bd Месяц назад +26

    "You know what's my worst fear? I don't wanna become a meme..." I feel like that's a meme right there

  • @jvgoddard4296
    @jvgoddard4296 Месяц назад +3

    One of the best episodes and loved the interviews.

  • @coldogno7
    @coldogno7 Месяц назад +9

    "Wow, that's an amazing car!"
    Pete replied, "If you work hard, put all your hours in, and strive for excellence, I'll get more cars next year...oh wait, you are fired".

  • @lochlannach7
    @lochlannach7 Месяц назад +52

    It's funny how someone made a comment saying "surpised Jason hasn't blocked everyone off of RUclips for asking him questions" and the comment literally gets deleted an hour after it being posted.

    • @johnniewolf133
      @johnniewolf133 Месяц назад +13

      And I made such a nice comment critiquing it in response to them too and they go ahead and cowardly delete it. Such a shame.

    • @thebigbient8736
      @thebigbient8736 Месяц назад +8

      Schill UP

    • @vladb_
      @vladb_ Месяц назад +12

      Guys, if you are unhappy with this podcast or Jason, why are you still here? Off you go, there are plenty of podcasts out there 😊

    • @knighthero226
      @knighthero226 Месяц назад +9

      Jason had a history of being disingenuous, but it does come with being a journalist.

    • @tehbeernerd
      @tehbeernerd Месяц назад +8

      If you invite a provocative ego case like Schreier on a podcast, you have to understand there will be backlash. Deleting those comments serves no one.

  • @lucasgruber8509
    @lucasgruber8509 Месяц назад +5

    Game Informer ending is absolutely heartbreaking. I remember selling some of the magazines to my friends in elementary school for a buck or two because they didn't have access to it. I can still picture the Halo Reach cover art in my head like it was yesterday. Thank you to the Game Informer team for so many amazing memories

  • @drew_blanco_
    @drew_blanco_ Месяц назад +3

    Man. I gotta say how thankful I am for this podcast. I've been playing Jurassic World Evolution 2 and having this on the side has given me the most peaceful gaming night in a long time!

  • @robzobel
    @robzobel Месяц назад +34

    Wait….whats Lucy’s beef with Deadpool??? She looked disgusted when asked if she saw it.

    • @Beatness121
      @Beatness121 Месяц назад +40

      I think she’s just over marvel

    • @justinhiltz
      @justinhiltz Месяц назад

      I cried 😢

    • @666slateran666
      @666slateran666 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Beatness121her loss I guess. Deadpool is the best thing marvel has done in a while. Only other ring that I liked as much was Dr strange. But that's because it was basically a Sam Raimi movie more than a marvel one.

    • @lochlannach7
      @lochlannach7 Месяц назад

      @@robzobel I've seen some people complaining about Deadpool being homophobic and sexist, it could be that. The movie was good imo.

    • @AsteroSloth
      @AsteroSloth Месяц назад

      @@lochlannach7 homophobic and sexist?! 😭 someone stop the conservatives from making up woke people pleaseeee

  • @TheGeneReyva
    @TheGeneReyva Месяц назад +5

    Imagine having the guy who sat on talk of Blizzard abuses, then later writes a fucking book about it. Looks fucking scummy. Jason should be a pariah.

  • @jeffcarrier9808
    @jeffcarrier9808 Месяц назад +7

    I wish they went the Destiny 3 route years ago like Activision wanted so that we could have a complete Destiny 1 game, a complete Destiny 2 game, and by now a complete Destiny 3 game that would all be available to re-experience. The 10 year trilogy was the way to go imo.

    • @martyk656
      @martyk656 Месяц назад

      I'm so glad that Destiny 3 will almost certainly be in more capable hands than Bungie's should it ever come to pass!

    • @hobojoe9717
      @hobojoe9717 24 дня назад

      So you wish destiny had turned out like CoD or Assassin’s Creed? Just shitting out a “new” game every year regardless of whether it was ready or not?

    • @jeffcarrier9808
      @jeffcarrier9808 24 дня назад

      @hobojoe9717 I don't get the "regardless if ready part" but no not every year it would have been every 3 years

    • @hobojoe9717
      @hobojoe9717 24 дня назад

      @@jeffcarrier9808 How do you know it would have been every 3 years? In the interview they mentioned how Bobby Kotick was all about annualized releases, which is part of why there is a new CoD game every single year no matter what. And with some of those games, they were in sub-optimal states upon release and should have been delayed, but Activision would never allow that. That’s what I mean when I said they will release the game regardless if it is ready or not.

    • @jeffcarrier9808
      @jeffcarrier9808 24 дня назад

      @hobojoe9717 I'm talking about Destiny not CoD. Destiny was planned as a trilogy over 10 years.

  • @SanderE39
    @SanderE39 Месяц назад

    This was quite the episode people, thank you for shining a light on what is happening, the good and the bad. Letting the people speak who just lost their jobs can be an incredible difficult thing for them. It is so inspiring to see how strong they are and were able to talk so openly about this. I cannot say how grateful I am for their efforts, hope everyone is well and ends up in a great place, all the love from me.❤

  • @NoNameMnk
    @NoNameMnk Месяц назад +3

    I can't remember the last time I went to GameStop, and I actually let my GI subscription run out last year after having it for over 10 years, but with how GS treated the whole history and legacy of GI I will be sure to never go to GS to buy anything. GI was the only reason I had any sort of fondness for GameStop at this point and now that is gone. I feel bad for their employees as they, and the magazine itself, deserved a better fate than they were given.

  • @CreedenceTheBass
    @CreedenceTheBass Месяц назад +1

    I always show non-gamers Astro Bot. The experience of the dualsense always evokes such a sense of wonder, and I love to hear them respond.

  • @goodtaste2185
    @goodtaste2185 Месяц назад +46

    I am not a fan of Jason at all but I do respect his work on showcasing how terrible the industry treats the people who make some of our favorite entertainment.

    • @icebough4191
      @icebough4191 Месяц назад +11

      Jason does good work for the most part
      But the dude is insufferable

    • @muddrox887
      @muddrox887 Месяц назад +8

      Thank you. I think people are being willfully ingnorant of all the good he is done.
      I also don't agree with everything he says but he has done so much in uncovering abuse.

    • @GameoftheYear-fx4mq
      @GameoftheYear-fx4mq Месяц назад +2

      ​@@icebough4191how's he insufferable?

    • @johnniewolf133
      @johnniewolf133 Месяц назад

      ​​​​@@muddrox887Exactly, the work is fundamentally more important and is giving voices to the voiceless and exposing actual crimes and abuse being committed within the industry that the community claims to love yet...they waste time incessantly dogging him out of personal reasons rather than discuss the work, you know, the actual stories worth highlighting and directing their anger and vitriol at the people responsible for continuing to corrode the industry like a cancer.
      It is baffling to say the least but is par for the course unfortunately. Now that level of collective cognitive dissonance is insufferable.

    • @greenboots_4661
      @greenboots_4661 Месяц назад +8

      ​​@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq something something game journalists, something something Kotaku, etc.
      If I had to guess, most of the people who complain about him are former anti-SJWs who have never reevaluated their opinions on him after leaving the cult. That, or he didn't like a game they like, and that makes him "insufferable" because gamers be gamers.

  • @DewtehDew
    @DewtehDew Месяц назад +68

    I remember when Yong had him on and he was a condescending asshole lol

    • @antapathetic
      @antapathetic Месяц назад +34

      yeah but yong is also a complete drip

    • @itsaUSBline
      @itsaUSBline Месяц назад +7

      ​@@antapatheticyeah agreed, yongyea is a chill guy, but comes off like a doofus whenever he's talking to someone serious.

    • @sobsag
      @sobsag Месяц назад

      Which is good because Yong is a liar and deserves it.

    • @Dalmasen86
      @Dalmasen86 Месяц назад +1

      Jason Schreier IS a condescending asshole

    • @Rohan-sn2nx
      @Rohan-sn2nx Месяц назад +1

      condescending asshole is the best way I've heard someone describing this asshole

  • @FKDotFitzgerald
    @FKDotFitzgerald Месяц назад +3

    Really looking forward to this one! The Gambit bit at the beginning cracked me up.

  • @NickyDinger
    @NickyDinger Месяц назад +2

    Hearing Brian talk about the loss of the Gameinformer site and the loss of all of that data reminds me how important hard disk storage really is. SAVE YOUR DATA PEOPLE, because the cooperations who host it now may not be around forever.

  • @TheShawnMower
    @TheShawnMower Месяц назад +4

    Nobody cares how he spends his money; it's how he acquired the money on the back of hundreds of other peoples efforts and then fired them.

    • @jorgeporras9262
      @jorgeporras9262 Месяц назад +1

      Jason Schreier keeping his reputation for being simultaneously the best and most valuable games industry reporter when not writing his own opinions, and being one of the worst journalists when introducing his own opinions.

  • @hafaball
    @hafaball Месяц назад +1

    The Meat part of Thank Goodness You're Here! was incredible. I was not expected it to become so Cronenbergian! The Chimney guy was definitely my favorite and I was not expecting so much sex humor lol, thanks for recommending it Lucy!

  • @rahmed71
    @rahmed71 Месяц назад +7

    Love how this is slowly becoming THE industry podcast, love to hear all the diverse guests/voices.

  • @assassineagle1
    @assassineagle1 Месяц назад +5

    could you guys ask the guests what they are playing rn and whats their favourite game. i would really like to know

  • @kungfugeek8000
    @kungfugeek8000 Месяц назад +3

    The best game to show your grandma has gotta be Scorn.

  • @mrdubtee1873
    @mrdubtee1873 Месяц назад +1

    FPS LIVE?!?!? Dude, HELL YES. Now we just gotta get an event on the east coast. Cheers yall

  • @InhalingAshes26
    @InhalingAshes26 Месяц назад +8

    I hear people defend Parsons spending habits as "he can spend his money how he wants" but I do not understand how you don't make the connection. Here is a guy who is the head of the company, in charge of all the big decisions and making sure everything runs properly. He has clearly failed in that job as the company is floundering after countless poor management decisions. But despite the failures he not only still has his job but has enough money to spend on frivolous things like classic cars to admire in his garage. Now that money couldn't have saved all the jobs Bungie lost but it's hard to imagine it being less useful being distributed to anyone else in the company. If it could have saved 10 jobs that's a better use. Instead the studio loses like 40% of its staff over a couple years and this guy is still employed... See any issues with that?

  • @Slowp0w
    @Slowp0w Месяц назад +17

    Thanks for the timestamps, I dont care for the interviews, I just wanna hear Jake, Ralph and Lucy banter and talk about games and stuff.

  • @poolraser
    @poolraser Месяц назад +12

    Wohoo Im right now on a 2h roadtrip🎉🎉 dear Ralph, you're the man 🤘

  • @liampettinger9252
    @liampettinger9252 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Lucy for the Thank goodness you're here recommend. As a Yorkshire lad it tickled my fancy a fair bit, and would of passed me by without FPS.

  • @Wizkid_Marcin
    @Wizkid_Marcin Месяц назад +6

    If I had to show a game off to anyone, I think Guitar Hero would be top of the list.

    • @TheMetalGaia
      @TheMetalGaia Месяц назад

      Same! And Rock Band. Expert everything.

  • @LinktheSamoyed
    @LinktheSamoyed Месяц назад +2

    re: Enjoying the Andor politics bit... Ralph would suit an Imperial Officer uniform perfectly

  • @nice_bnuuy
    @nice_bnuuy Месяц назад +24

    Will be playing Dragon's Crown, which we all know to be Jason Schreier's favorite game, in honor of him being on this podcast

    • @Chopzi11a
      @Chopzi11a Месяц назад

      Just a tad culty of you. May want to dial that back

    • @frostmourne1986
      @frostmourne1986 Месяц назад +3

      Wish it was on PC lol.

    • @lemond2007
      @lemond2007 Месяц назад

      I stopped reading Kotaku and joined Gamergate because of the very article you're referring to. Jason is such an unbelievable asshole.

    • @aersla1731
      @aersla1731 Месяц назад +10

      @@frostmourne1986 I wish any of vanillaware games were on pc lol.

    • @clevelandbrown4571
      @clevelandbrown4571 Месяц назад

      @@frostmourne1986 Emulation is your friend.

  • @dsc5957
    @dsc5957 Месяц назад

    The gameinformer section was so touching. Thank you for giving these folks a platform at a time like this.

  • @Alex99876
    @Alex99876 Месяц назад +7

    Comments criticising Schreier are still being deleted

    • @FrawgfithAmblose
      @FrawgfithAmblose Месяц назад +3

      The comments are being limited as they have to be manually reviewed and accepted to be seen now because so many were critical of him

    • @spectre-8
      @spectre-8 Месяц назад +2

      I wonder if it was a condition of his to be on the podcast

  • @m06-r3i
    @m06-r3i 28 дней назад

    Thank you very much for the subtitles in the video! ❤

  • @leana339
    @leana339 Месяц назад +36

    I'm just tired of them sunsetting content while at the same time still selling the expansions at full price to people. Last expansion i played was Witch queen.

    • @bfedezl2018
      @bfedezl2018 Месяц назад

      There is no more sunsetting

    • @TheCronotrigger1212
      @TheCronotrigger1212 Месяц назад +15

      ​​@@bfedezl2018but all the old content is still gone so....unless they bring it back, they are still sunsetting stuff. It's ridiculous how i cant play the base game of Destiny 2 anymore despite having paid full price for it

    • @codyestes6596
      @codyestes6596 Месяц назад +1

      You’re about a year behind the tabloids

    • @GameoftheYear-fx4mq
      @GameoftheYear-fx4mq Месяц назад +1

      ​@@TheCronotrigger1212bungie told us the reason: NOBODY was playing red war, CoO or Warmind. NO ONE was going to those planets/moons. Veterans like both of us certainly weren't going to those, why would new players want to do 2016 content that's worse than their recent content?

    • @Mediados
      @Mediados Месяц назад +5

      ​@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq Because the recent context doesn't tell them shit. New players have no idea where the story is or what happened, yet Bungie keeps insisting on narrative progression. There is no official way for new players to actually see what happened in the story up to Forsaken.

  • @Warpagan
    @Warpagan Месяц назад

    My two favourite pods coming together. FPS and Triple Click are the two shows I watch every time.

  • @marmalar
    @marmalar Месяц назад +14

    Take-Two buying Zinga was a big fail... they got Bazinga'd... I hate myself...

    • @DirtySancheeezz
      @DirtySancheeezz Месяц назад +5

      More like buyzinga'd......I hate myself more☠️☠️☠️

    • @JulesNekro
      @JulesNekro Месяц назад +4

      @@DirtySancheeezz should've Take-None....oh god, it's infectious

  • @razzgrizz3
    @razzgrizz3 Месяц назад +2

    "if you cant take that sort of public pushback you should just delete yourself off twiter"
    schreier: "..."
    hearty kek

  • @Ashtarte3D
    @Ashtarte3D Месяц назад +5

    I really do not like Ralph's comment to the second user question of "stay in your lane." Without trying new things we wouldn't have gotten gems like Hi-Fi Rush last year if Tango stuck to survival horror.

  • @sr_skardyn9000
    @sr_skardyn9000 Месяц назад

    Absolute banger of an episode! Very timely interviews with those close to the recent news! Love to see it!

  • @CyberkillGames
    @CyberkillGames Месяц назад +19

    Man it must be nice being the CEO of a game developer. You can screw up as many times as you want and face zero consequences.

    • @Chopzi11a
      @Chopzi11a Месяц назад +4

      Because we allow it. Tell me are you planning on buying Marathon?

    • @Ashton_Cats
      @Ashton_Cats Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Chopzi11a this more the fact that America has been rotted out by cooperations. It hasn't always been this way when we had good union culture

  • @ViewtifulJae
    @ViewtifulJae Месяц назад +1

    @2:45 I caught Jake actually pronouncing “Mario” CORRECTLY LOL

  • @GuiiBrazil
    @GuiiBrazil Месяц назад +8

    35:39 you can see the frustration on Ralph's face. Truly a bummer.

    • @Mike_Viola
      @Mike_Viola Месяц назад

      You can see he wants Destiny to be good SO BAD, but its just not meant to be.

  • @Snipereye64
    @Snipereye64 Месяц назад +1

    Just here to say thank goodness I’m here and thanks for the recommendation ❤

  • @inventedcool1076
    @inventedcool1076 Месяц назад +3

    I wish I could share the screenshot of Jake and Lucy’s face when he said “it’s kind of like suicide squad” 😖 and 😳

  • @kirker87
    @kirker87 Месяц назад

    I’m realizing in this moment that this is the first time I’ve ever heard Jason speak despite knowing of his existence for the better part of a decade

  • @danbooke2001
    @danbooke2001 16 дней назад +4

    Jesus christ, that interview with Jason Schrier was unbearable.

    • @kyle1806
      @kyle1806 15 дней назад +2

      His voice is almost as repulsive as his countenance

    • @ShaunThomas-lo9iv
      @ShaunThomas-lo9iv 10 дней назад +1

      Not a fan of him myself.

  • @DavMCycle
    @DavMCycle Месяц назад +1

    Great episode, it is sad that Game informer is not going to be around anymore, GameStop should sell them to someone that respects and value all the knowledge and history behind this magazine, a true lost for the gaming community.

  • @DerpyDerpums
    @DerpyDerpums Месяц назад +14

    I hate the update to the everyday earbuds. They removed the button. Now it's touch sensitive. So standing in the shower, the water hitting it will fuck with the volume. I've been betrayed

    • @itsPonkulz
      @itsPonkulz Месяц назад +11

      you fell for the youtube scam lmao

    • @DerpyDerpums
      @DerpyDerpums Месяц назад

      @itsPonkulz they were good headphones. It's not a scam you neanderthal

    • @jadedj5385
      @jadedj5385 Месяц назад

      Pantera played in my head when you said that you were betrayed. Crappy change though. I have the ones with the button. Solid earbuds, but I prefer Anker More. Similar situation with their model one was fire, but then they decided to add weird shapes to it and further models and they aren’t as great.

    • @LogicalError007
      @LogicalError007 Месяц назад

      You bath with your earbuds on? What?

    • @DerpyDerpums
      @DerpyDerpums Месяц назад

      @LogicalError007 they're waterproof and I'm scared of being alone with my thoughts. I'm on the brink of giving up

  • @BlueRoomGaming
    @BlueRoomGaming Месяц назад

    Jake holding back laughter when Jason said jazzed made me lol

  • @omensoffate
    @omensoffate Месяц назад +5

    When Jason sees dragons crown he cries

  • @griff2181
    @griff2181 Месяц назад +1

    I always read jasons work but im now realising I've never heard his voice before but it suits him so well, also seeing you have fun talking about thank goodness you're here made me want to give it a try so i got it for switch.

  • @Gaskinmoo79
    @Gaskinmoo79 Месяц назад +16

    How could any company head be stupid enough to believe taht once the pandemic was over the growth would continue.

    • @bdothitman4346
      @bdothitman4346 Месяц назад +6

      You underestimate the greed of people, my friend..

    • @bdothitman4346
      @bdothitman4346 Месяц назад

      I love how Americans are honest about talking to a therapist.
      I will say as a forward thinking country like Australia. We don't mention that shit. AT All. no joke here but..maybe cultural..

    • @None-lx8kj
      @None-lx8kj Месяц назад

      I think it’s less that they didn’t know and more that they didn’t care.

    • @Ashton_Cats
      @Ashton_Cats Месяц назад +1

      Their job isn't to sustain growth, it was during the pandemic to pump the stock as much as possible without even thinking of the future consequences. They've already been paid, they have plenty of money and will leave as soon as they can to another job

  • @jordanblunsdon1562
    @jordanblunsdon1562 Месяц назад +2

    Wales mentioned HUGE

  • @byghostlight1
    @byghostlight1 Месяц назад +3

    After ten years of Destiny one thing is clear, it may of been my most played game ever, made by some truly amazing artists but under the umbrella of seemingly one of the most dysfunctional companies. I am not sure how to feel about that contradiction.