Ping G400 Driver Fitting
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- txg.ca - A very interesting driver fitting with an advanced player looking for more distance and control. See the differences in performance between the Ping G400 LST and G400 MAX, and how it might be able to improve your ball flight off the tee.
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser, Master Clubfitter
What a great video. You really showed how important it is to be fitted by an expert. Golfers don't realize how much accuracy and yardage they are leaving on the table. Keep up the great work guys. I love watching these fittings and relating it to my game.
This has quickly become one of my favorite channels on RUclips. Always excited when a new video posts. Keep up the great work guys!
Mark Rathburn thanks Mark, we appreciate that!!
Guys, y'all proven again and again what we'll need: a coiple of dedicated golf fitters. Your teaching me so much that I'm enjoying even more not just playing but working on my golf game at home or at the practice range !
You can't fake the excitement of someone who has that feeling of confidence in their equipment. This couldn't have been easy to put together this experienced staff so duplication of TXG will not be easy. Hmmm stay and fit experience in Toronto looking like a valuable option. Thumbs up.
These fit videos are gold. Should do more of this 👍
Thanks I went to my local golf store to get a driver fitting. I learned so much from your videos and put it to use. I tried the M4 and Rogue against my current Nike Ignite 460. All stiff flex, my carry distance was around 225 with total at 245 or so about 20 yards roll out. I was hitting draws to hooks with all three and my spin was at 3200 rpm. My launch angle was around 12 degrees which is probably a little low. I then tried a used 2017 M1 9.5 with Aldilla Rogue Silver 70 gram shaft set to middle on both sliders. My launch angle went up to 13 or 14 and my spin dropped almost by 1000 rpm down to around 2300 well guess what my drives went average of 248 carry with around 273 total. Thanks guys for amazing work teaching us average golfers how to maximize our potential and improve our games.
I watched my first TXG video about a week ago and there isn't enough time in the day to get catch-up and devour all the content. Safe to say I'm binge watching this channel now albeit a bit out of of order. I'm watching them as they relate to categories that currently interest me but man, this is awesome stuff. I was fit for the first time in my life (for irons) a couple months back and while it was a good experience, I had nothing to compare it to. Now I'm not as confident I got the best advice/ result.
I'll forever have fitting envy after being introduced to this channel. Keep up the great work!
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What a nice video. It started like me hitting everywhere on the side of the fairway but finishes so nicely with the ball in the fairway all the time. Tell's me I've got to get fit with the mind of sending the ball in the fairway. No more drive for show for me. Thank you TXG Tour Experience Golf. I've got to find time to visit you guy's even with my 97 mph swing.
This channel is amazing. It’s like Olivander and his wand fitting of golf clubs.
I like that you can optimize for a particular brand or the driver head that a customer may already have. Us weekend golfers don't have the kind of dough to always buy new clubs. Maybe just a new shaft that we can have for years to come and adjusting the head to the best spot can help that much more.
The most consistent advantage I've noted since your channel started, is how much confidence each fitting session has engrained with those who've gone thru the process. This is true golfers of every skill level. For those making the (substantial) investment in the hard goods, it's great to know the wand fits the wizard...
If any Americans are in the comments here wondering why Canada has a lot more lefty golfers - it's a hockey thing. We're taught to use our dominant hand on the top of the stick, and therefore a lot of right handed players actually shoot left. When these guys that grew up with hockey transition into golf, it's a bit more natural to continue the lefty trend. This isn't an absolute rule, of course; Wayne Gretzky golfs right yet played hockey lefty.
jro tv amazing
It's the Happy Gilmore effect.
Thanks Jro tv, that’s very interesting, I’m a massive sports fan but didn’t know this, cheers from north west England 👍🏌️♂️
Great analysis!
These are great videos in order for the average golfer to go into a fit much more informed about the process. Great work guys.
Another great video!!!!! There are a lot of similarities in his swing, the big gather at the top especially. It's great seeing people with something that really fits them and watch them grow in confidence. Can only imagine how they feel on the course after that
By far the most informative channel on RUclips at the moment love the videos
Now I have found your channel and subscribed I am looking to your “older” video’s. If I lived nearby I would have booked a fitting....this is really the mekka for golfers searching for a serious fitting. Unbelievable how you can make adjustments with several head-shaft combo’s to ultimatedly find the driver that suits the swing of the golfer👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Yet again 👍 Guys. Satching your fits is a great way to learn how to max out your own game.Learning so much from your expertise Ian. Thanks Buddy!!
I keep watching these videos and I start to get an itch to get fit by you guys. Great video again
BOOM! Great vid yet again Guys! It will be interesting to get some feedback from Paul later in the season to see how his new Driver setup has performed out on the course.
Great video.Didn’t realise how much depth you go into for a driver fitting. Brilliant insight, I’ll be looking for this quality in future, maybe with a ping G400!
Yeah TXG and Wisdom in golf are the best you tube Golf channels
These fitting videos are awesome, makes me want to take a vacation to Canada for a visit!
These videos are great! But i just purchased new irons and driver at my local Golf Galaxy and they offer custom fitting. I attempted talking to them about some of the things I learned from these videos like what back spin i would like to see and taking a look at different shafts. They just blew it off and kept telling me its about my swing. Wish more custom fitters were like this but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. Keep up the great job guys!
Jon Stallard sorry to hear that Jon. It’s too bad not enough “fitters” truly know their craft.
G400 max driver seems to be a real performer
Another top video
Shaft profile affects strike point. I’ve never heard that before. Great video. 👍🏻
Keep up the good work. Best equipment fitting videos in golf. Thanks for keeping it entertaining and educational
Wish you had fitting facility closer to Maryland!! Outstanding video!!
Maryland native here as well and I agree completely! I feel like this market is primed and ready for a serious club fitting/indoor golf simulator facility...AACounty at least.
Another great video, I have learned so much about fittings. I live in the states and I am going to get fit at Club Champion for a driver. Feel much more knowledgable about the process, hopefully they are half as good as you are. Would like to see how a fitting goes with a 10 -12 handicap player. Most of your videos only have real good players in them. Keep up the good work
Very nice job - you guys are fitting savants! I would be interested if you could go through a fitting like this and then at the end when the player is fully warmed and hitting nice shots and in a good relaxed mental state because they found their new club, then have them hit 4 more with their original club and check those numbers against the first time they hit their club and the final numbers with the new club.
I would love to see the numbers when he really centred one!
His mishits were awesome 👏
Loved hearing how the shaft profile can really affect the strike point on the face.
Excellent fitting, can we do putting soon.
Such a great video, you guys are great. Fascinating to go through the fitting process. Keep up the great work guys.
Guys can you do a review of the Hzurdus family of shafts, I think the difference between the 4 confuses a lot of golfers, especially the difference between yellow and black.
yellow is backweighted and lower launching
Its interesting. I tested the g400max with stock stiff shaft, 102 club speed, 13 degree launch with 1700-2000 spin hitting it 270- 285 roll out. I want more forgiveness and actually saw that, but wont that spin hurt me? Crazy that most forgiving driver on the market is that low spinning. Thanks. You guys are incredible!
Depends on your swing Joe, if it's finding fairways for you with that spin rate then that's a home run!
Amazing video guys. Really learnt alot from this video. Eye opening would absolutely love to be fitted by there guys
Really enjoy your videos. Maybe you could do a iron and driver fitting for a 65+ year old soon.
This is yet another great video. Is there anyway you can do a video comparing the stock shafts that come with driver against the aftermarket shafts. I see you fit him in a kuro kage, I am guessing it's not the same as the one that comes standard on some driver. Would be great to see how inconsistent the specs are on the off the shelf shafts. People write about it but no one has show any data or info, I believe it but would like to see it and I'm sure it's what a lot of people need to stop and think before they buy their next driver. If you can without getting into hit water.
Absolutely James, it's on our to-do list for sure.
With him constantly hitting the ball too low on the club face why didn't he ust tee the ball a little lower?
Liked this video. I think it also shows the importance of strike. How is he going to get the strike more up the face? Ball position/tee height?
hitting bottom a lot, why didnt anyone suggest tee up higher, after all hitting up for optimal. love the channel guys
Would be great if you guys could show a wedge fitting. Never seen one on yt and there seem to be so many options.
I got fitted for a Ping 400, 1. shorter Shaft,, 1.5 inches off standard. 2. Light stiff 65g, from a regular shaft, 3 Loft down to 9.5 form a 10.5. Result: 20 yards extra distance + 20 yards off dispertion, Very happy indeed. except for one thing ? the cost of up grading. However I am saving for it.
Loving the videos guys! Going to get a whole bag fitting tomorrow, hoping for someone half as knowledgeable as you. Any videos planned on a ball fitting? I am trying out some new balls this season and would love to know the proper way to go about it.
Yes sir! Just talked about that in our meeting today, so stay tuned!
Fantastic video!
This is a GREAT channel
I get to these videos a bit later than I'd like in order to ask questions, and maybe this question should not be asked in a public forum. The G 400 max retails around $600 at golf town. If a person was fit at TXG, and wanted an upgraded shaft, would the cost be the same $600 plus the new shaft? Great video again by the way.
No worries Jerry. Yes the aftermarket shafts are additional in cost to the price of the clubhead itself.
Love the content. In central pa we don’t have these kind of facilities. Maybe a Cobra F8 or F8+ fitting and the new Mizuno drivers/ fairway woods. Also maybe some hybrids. I feel like Hybrids are a life saver for most amateur golfers compared to long irons.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks for watching! We've got a video on the Cobra F8 driver and another video with a hybrid fitting coming out later this week!
If the strike point is consistently low, why not just tee the ball a bit higher?
I'm currently playing the g30 looking at upgrading to g400 LST, I've had a fitting so it will be interesting to see what shaft option is best in this vlog.
Wow just wow TXG master Jedi fitters at work 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
Knocked another one well out of the park - well done !!!
Another great video guys. Great channel
Thanks Guys. Great stuff.
You guys are awesome... what a great channel.
Great video. Could you do a video comparing shorter driver shafts like the switch Rickie Fowler made?
ruclips.net/video/pcdYL5qKQkA/видео.html 😉
Awesome! loving this channel even more!
Yeah I agree with everyone. You guys have done brilliantly. Can you do some stuff with the Cobra kit. I know I'm a Cobra gamer but their new F8 stuff lately is absolutely monstrous.
Another great video TXG team! You guys do such a good job, I eagerly anticipate your next "episode", knowing that I will learn something new , guaranteed. Great to see how tweaking the loft, head profile and shaft types can lead to greater consistency. From everything I am seeing from you guys and others online, the MOI story on the G400Max seems to be real....sounds like you guys are typically seeing increased stability for all types of golfers, correct? I am currently gaming G30SFT - how much gains are you seeing in general from players that get fitted into the G400Max? I understand that improvement will vary due to individual player swing characteristics, but I presume with the ideal fitting process, you could project a general range of upside one can expect...
We're seeing amazing results with that G400 MAX. And even just taking this video for example, Paul has tested all the Ping drivers for the last several years, and he really took to this one nicely. The MOI and stability are awesome!
Another question....to confirm what I have learnt from you guys on the channel - I am gaming the G30SFT with the Ping Tour 65 R shaft (was moved from S to R in a fitting almost 3yrs ago, because I had difficulty getting the ball in the air back then). Now, my driver swing has improved quite a bit, I am getting high launch, but excessive backspin. My drives typically land and go backwards vs. forward roll. I need a stiffer shaft now, correct? Feels like I am getting too much head deflection at impact, leading to the high spin. Does that make sense? Would you anticipate the Tour 65 S giving me better results?
Thoughts?
Super video as per usual. Will you be doing complete irons over a time and putter just so I know what to expect ?
With Paul? We plan to for sure.
Great vid guys
Great vic again guys, just one question. If he's striking the ball low in the face, why doesn't he simply tee it up higher??
He did a bit which helped bring the strike up slightly. Paul's a very good player, just a bit of off-season rust, I'm sure he'll be back to the middle of the clubface in no time.
Very Cool......I would bet the same thing would happen if you were doing Sub Zero vs Rogue heads or M3 vs M4 heads with same shafts. Seems like the avg heads at around 9 degrees play close to lower launch version heads in 10/ 10.5 range. I also wonder how much of him hitting it a bit low on the face was psychological as far as simply the look of the face....shape, color, whatever. I know I have had certain heads that just look funky to me and I would strike them low.......and a different look with same specs I hit better just because of a mental thing....looked better
Good vid' and very helpful! Looking forward to hitting the Max & SFT models soon. Thanks!
Very informative stuff. I'm thinking its time to get fit.
Thank you-so does it seem from your testing that the g 400 max performs better than the G400?-and by the way outstanding video!!!
Hey guys, Really love the channel! Maybe a silly question, but why not just tee the ball 10mm higher?
Excellent again! I would’ve loved to see Paul connect with a drive a couple of cm’s higher...!
Great video boys Ive learned a lot from watching these fits 👍😮
Great video! One question though; why didn't you say nothing about the club length? Isn't it so that by shortening the length, you may lose some ball speed but gain may be consistency and hit more the centre of the club head?
That can be the case for some, but for a player as consistent as Paul, his goal was to gain a bit more yardage and already strikes the ball well at 45"
Great video! After watching your driver shaft length video would you agree it might be a good idea to try and cut a bit of length off of his driver shaft to get that strike point up? Looked like that worked for Matt but I get Matt has an excessive amount of speed.
Shout out to the fellow lefties up here in Canada!
Great video!
Again, great video! Always love to see the full fitting process! Was wondering whether this was the Kuro Kage XT 60X shaft? And at around what Swing speed you would consider moving towards the KK XT 60 XT Version?
Not the XT, generally suited to 115+. You'll see some driver videos we did with Matt where we used that shaft.
Were these all standard shaft length? Around 45.25? Do you ever try a longer shaft for someone who’s highest impact point is just getting into the center of the face?
Hello, I hit out of the heel with my driver (not so much with anything else), could a shaft bring my strike point nearer to the centre?
Possibly Barry! It's amazing what can be done to work on strike point using equipment. Stay tuned for a future video on this.
Amazing video. Is there a TXG fitting establishment in the UK or some information on something similar
I just bought an lst and cannot straighten it out. All I get is a pushy slice knuckleball. Would the max be better for me? I tend to hit down about 1/2 a degree with the driver. When I hit it good it goes fairly straight.
I am currently one of those people who u mentioned is slow with the driver speed compared to my iron swing speed. Would love to hear your advice for improving that Kinematic sequence
Another great video and love seeing a fellow lefty. There’s lefties south of the border too. Keep it up.
Is there anyone you fit with a neutral/negative angle of attack and how do you improve launch conditions for someone who isn’t hitting 3-5* up like Paul and Matt.
Kevin Wiessner agree - and am also a fellow lefty. Wondering how you may address the player that strikes down on the ball and what changes you might implement with that type of player to maximize the numbers
We'll do a future fitting with that type of swing for sure.
TXG Tour Experience Golf. Very cool. Thanks for the reply.
Hey guys, always heard the max was longer and more forgiving. Currently game the reg 400 with hzrdus yellow 6.0 73g I think it is. Picked up a new Max and compared on course with same shaft. Regular 400 seemed to come out on top. Do you think it is spin numbers causing this? Launch seemed to be about the same, maybe a lil higher with max. SS avg 105, may peak at 108, 109. Thanks!
i need Ian Fraser to come back to scotland and give me a fitting. :-(
I'm seeing some data from the 425 max vs the 400 max and I'm wondering if my upgrade from my 2015 g driver is worth the money to the 425. Would you think a properly fit 400 max would be the better way for a budget friendly upgrade?
Shot! Great content...definetly like
How does Ping’s Tour shaft compare to the more recognizable shaft brands that typically play a part in a fit? I have heard that it is a really good shaft. Would love your thoughts on it.
Ping shafts are very good, they're the only non-aftermarket shaft we carry at TXG
What would you say if the numbers where 158-160 ball speed, 260-279 Total with 10 degrees of launch.
Too much spin, to low launch?
Great information as always guys! :D
Would look for launch closer to 13º with spin around 2500rpm ideally.
yes another one!👍🏻
Learning soooo much - any chance you know where to go in Denmark for a session like this?
To the airport and ask for a ticket to Toronto! 😆😆😆
Cool fitting, just a thought but from the angle of the video it looks like he is teeing it up pretty high (ball looks completely above the head) if he came down a fraction could that improve his strike point?
In this case the average strike was actually a bit on the low side, so the higher tee would (in theory) bring the strike point higher.
Makes sense
Nice
Ever back in the UK fitting?
Does anyone ever fit a stock shaft? What about even the tour shafts from ping?
What about a tpt shaft for Paul? TPT 16 MKP/MT/SW?
We're sure he wouldn't have minded it at all! 😉 Just wanted to throw a few different shafts in the mix as we've done quite a few videos with the TPT recently.
ok, got you
So I currently game the G400 LST, Reg Flex, Stock Alta CB55 shaft. Swing 100mph. If I swing it smooth and easy I can make it go straight, but as soom as I go after it a little I fight a miss to the right. Starts straight then just slowly fades and keepa fading. (Some swing issue to work on Ik, but I do play a fade even with my irons). Is the LST poss too low spinning causing that miss? Is there a better shaft recommendation? Just some general advice would be helpful.
With hitting low on the face surely a tee 1/4" taller would solve that
can we combine driver fitting with putter fitting?
You could certainly book a driver session and putter session back to back at the studio.
Hey Guy's. What does making your driver more upright do? Thanks in advance
Karl.
Generally speaking it would limit a slice or push, similar to what occurs with an iron.
Would you ever consider giving him a shaft that's 1/4 inch longer to improve strike?
Would be worth a try Jason. Paul is a very good player though, he would likely have that worked out by the next session. It's been a long winter up here!
Do you guys have a trusted fitting colleague in the NYC area who's got the similar breadth and depth of knowledge that Ian has? I may take a quick flight to Toronto to see you anyway but would be nice to avoid that in the short term.
Is everyone in Canada left handed?
Are these the ping shafts or are they custom?
Custom options