Dan is a great addition to the carpet ride, yet there’s just something about the coach and Parfield together that makes it special. Thanks for the great laughs and making golf fun again!
Coach needs to be in more club reviews. He may be a pro but he sprays the ball all over the lot like us weekend warriors. Plus the comedic relief he provides is priceless.
Hi mark, I play the G400 because it has a smaller head and suits my eye, maybe because I’m from the late 70s early 80s when as you know the heads were much smaller, don’t get me wrong I’ve had 460cc headed drivers which look ok but some look to big as in the m1 and m2 driver they just don’t look right in my eyes so there you go I won’t change my ping G400 to the max as I’m happy with how I strike my driver so no need to change.
I've been using my Ping G400 Max for a few weeks now, I was previously using the 2017 model Taylormade M1. The Ping is a much better club, at least for me. It hits straight on a regular basis and I'm getting good distance with no swing changes. I find it to be a very stable club and much more forgiving than the Taylormade. I love the look down by the ball and the sound is all Ping! I recommend it.
Bruh lmao I legit started out with a 2016 M1 430cc X stiff driver. I just got a steal on eBay for a g400 Max with a x-flex for $192 in pretty good condition. The 30 extra cc help a golf noob like me out, easily the best driver I’ve ever had. Based on the reviews it’s not gonna change for a while for the price point and my skill level .
I just switched from the regular 400 to the max. My fitting showed a minimal gain in yardage but the key stay that was the deciding factor was the dispersion was a lot tighter on the max.
I bought a G400-LST at 8.5* and love it. I've been working very hard on my driver swing for awhile. Was hitting either a weak slice or a bad pull. Had an Adams XTD 10.5*. Accuracy was improving but I was spinning it around mid 4000s and launching about 18*. With my new LST, and fitted shaft, my spin has come down to the mid 3000s and launching 14-15*. I also think the smaller head is helping with club head speed. Before I would average upper 90s mph. Now I'm constantly over 100. I tried a lot of other drivers, and while some where quite good, I didn't get the numbers I do with the LST. I understand why people would want the MAX and if the number are right for them then definitely go for it.
Well I’ve had the G400 SF-Tec since September and get on really well with it as a high handicapper. I have no fear hitting driver now, really love it, and the slightly smaller head!
I'm in the market this year for a new driver and will try both the G400 and G400 Max. What I don't understand is why won't Ping offer other shafts at no up charge?
Had a fitting yesterday for the max and turns out for me it was spinning to high. and after trying a few shaft options the best numbers for me was the SFT head with the aldiila shaft. Interesting!
Stunning driver. Absolutely beautiful. I love the the copper colour against the grey and black. The matte finish looks smart. Not sure dan should be hitting a 9. #getupdan. Really soft sound for a driver would go nice with my soft balls. When I upgrade my clubs one day it’s mostly going to be on looks and feel.
I game the G400 SFT. Main reason is it come in 12*. The Max doesn't have that option (yet). As for the 15cc size difference, it's a moot point for me. Plus I like the compact head appearance better than the elongated look of the Max.
Hey the low & deep CG means this thing launches high (my testing of regular G400 validated this) & so those used to 12* can game a 10.5. Besides you can up the loft by 1*. Also this design negates any (slice) sidespin.
Good video post Mark, I have only ever had two Ping drivers, years ago one being the G5 the other G10. They both were the same results wise, I either hit them very very very good or very very very bad, there was NO in between and if there was a sweet spot on either driver, it was small. That was enough for me.
What I like about ping is that they listen and take on board issues or even just thoughts of the consumer. They tried out a smaller head (with a great look) but they’ve also appreciated that some prefer a larger head and so relatively under the radar they’ve released the max. No egos just good business
I am a tech rep with PING and I had known of this coming out before the G400 launch, that being said I'm not sure why they launched separate. I had originally heard this was going to be a higher price point as well but that isn't the case now. Either way, great club seems too be winning a huge % of my fittings as of late.
Just went and tried one of these against the Taylormade twist face and the Callaway something or other with jailbait technology. Bought the Ping, felt brilliant.
Doesn't seem to be any distinguishable drop off in terms of distance. You'd usually expect some kind of trade off, but it just looks like a good all rounder. Would be interesting to see how it performs on course.
I bought a LST about a month ago. I like the smaller head and more subtle turbulators. This just seems gimmicky (much more so than the current models) and although my game does need improvement, the “Max” name isn’t very clever and screams weekend golfer. Maybe cuz I relate it to the G400 Max irons as being super game improvement. I’m still very happy with my purchase and I can’t imagine I would have picked this if it was available at the time.
It looks fantastic on the bottom up through the shaft, but as with the last few ping driver/fairway lines, I have trouble with all the ridges on the crown when I look down at it. I'd probably get used to it if I played it for a couple of rounds, but it just looks to busy to my eye.
I currently play the G400 sft. My question is would the G400 max tend to give me more of a fade bias ball flight since it doesn't come with the weight located near the heal of the club?
We’re assuming that these guys are using the twist face. It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the TM sponsored pros are using M3 and M4 drivers without the twist face. 🤔
mjgrasso76 Any evidence at all that there are M3 or 4’s without TwistFace? Tiger talked about it in his fitting interview in Global Golf Post/Golf Digest. If didn’t want TwistFace, why not just keep M1 or 2?
Joseph Greenberg I have no evidence of this, just saying that it is a possibility. TM naturally would want the pros they sponsor to use the latest equipment for marketing. If the player preferred a traditional bulge and roll face, I wouldn’t think that it would be difficult to accommodate them. Or maybe I just like a good conspiracy theory. 😆
Top review. I reckon Ping have looked at it at went, "oops we should have released the Max first, kets sneak it out". I have to say if I had a G400 I would be a bit miffed now the Max is out. Especially if the numbers could possibly be better with the larger head. Head scratcher from Ping that to be honest.
I’m still trying to find the best driver for me. I’m hitting the old tailor-made R11S driver. I’ve just upgraded my iron set. So I need to find the best driver. Do you have any advice for me to look at while I test out drivers?
I bought the G400 LST over the G400 Max because I prefer the smaller club head look. It doesn't compromise my distance off the tee and I was more accurate with it.
Got custom fit for the G400 as the Max didn’t come out at the time. The smaller head doesn’t bother me at all. But I also haven’t seen The Max in the flesh.
I game the g400 with tour stiff shaft which was ping fitted and has taken me months to get comfortable and regular strike with ,I can see the extra head size making the different but not changing sticking with it now save my money and another relearn period just before the season .no thanks !!! great review and a cheeky exit by Dan the smile!! .Ps did club head speed slow down???
Good numbers. In all seriousness, would you game this g400max??? I mean i know you can’t now (rrrrr, i’m still not over this btw) but you did not answer this question as you always used to.... I carry 280 yds on avg and love the emphasis by manufacturers lately of straighter distance. I’m more than happy to sacrifice 10 yds of distance for 5 yds of tighter dispersion, for example! Wish you commented more on this in your data testing. Can’t wait to compare this max to my g400 vortex...although thinking at the moment that vortex is a dealbreaker.....agree? Lol
here's the thing Mark, Ping went for the smaller head to increase club head speed, which they said wouldn't compromise forgiveness. Now they come out with the Max. It's just annoying from Ping that those of us who went into the standard 400, which i'm happy with, didn't get a chance to hit this one. I think it was a mistake on Ping's part. Still happy with my 400, but would have like to have tested the Max. I think it would have been a natural progression from my old g30
Yeah, some unhappy Ping customers. I have the std G400. These things are not cheap. Like buying a new luxury car only to find a few months later, a better more powerful model came along. Not gonna trade in for the new one, are we? Tony Finau said the Max is hotter & obviously he's hitting it further & straighter than the other G400 models. No brainer really.
I'm actually going to trade it in for the new Cleveland Launcher with an upgraded shaft. That club is so easy to hit with really good distance. Sadlowski has it in the bag. At it's price point I can get club and shaft for a straight swap.
Coach better put it in HIS BAG !!!! Best drive I have seen from him in 3-4 years ...... LOL He needs to join Sophie at Team PING , drop that Callaway crap !
I think the G400 LST still has its place in the market, but I am confused why the standard G400 exists anymore besides an extra choice of aesthetic. Ping could easily create a SFT version of the MAX, and thus seemingly cannibalize another of its products.
When you asked Ping guys at Demo Day if that got it wrong by bringing out the most stable Max, they were a little confused too. You didn't seem to get a clear Anser from them, either. same with Vortex not being needed. was it ever? #awkward
Was waiting for a smaller driver head to come out from ping... alas g400. The looks are unbeatable and slightly smaller head actually gives me more confidence. Also I dont care if the turbulators do anything aerodynamically, they help at address for me
0.0° pretty good ! I almost bought a G400 SFT (Straight Flight Tech - anti fade - and you cannot turn it left to right) back in January $659 Aussie $ ($US509). I didn't as all the hoopla started about TwistFace, so I waited for TwistFace. I'm a 14 marker. The M4 was ok, I didn't like the M3 - I didn't muck around with the adjustments much to be honest and they only had one regular shaft (so I will try again). I don't update clubs much as I tend to play the same 6 courses with buddies and know how to get around. Lately I've being playing much hard courses where I need to control driver as if I'm a foot off the fairway it is lost ! My gamer is a TaylorMade R580 XD from about 2004 ! Shaft is Stiff, 65 grams, low torque (whatever number that is !) Tip Firm. The Pro at the driving ranges laughs at it being so old and then I put a few holes in his back fence at 244 meters (Australia) with crappy range balls. Anyway I was hitting it mediocre at the range today - army golf - left / right / left / right and he said try the new G400 Max with an Alta Distanza 40g shaft. 40 grams !! I said OK but I'll snap it ! (Swing speed 108 mph). So ... SOOO ! .... BOOM ! Set at 10.5° it launches higher than a Jason Day 8 iron and carried to the back fence straight as a die. I've never seen anything like it ! Well Rory comes to mind ! Fluke ! So I try again - same ! I then hit two slices. Pro said just slow your swing down a bit - IT IS F@#$%N’ INSANE !! 4 in a row into the back fence, super straight but far too high. We knocked the launch angle down 2 notches so I guess that's 9.5° and that was much better, it was the end of a large bucket session and I was getting tired and then I hit a few more slices. I’ll get a proper fitting next week with the 9° head too. The head on these is huge and it has the highest MOI on the market - approaching illegal ! Light as a feather. I've always sought out stiffer shafts KuraKage 70 in the G400 standard so perhaps I'm erring. I'll get them to put me on TrackMan and we'll see what happens. But it was so impressive and forgiving - saying that I did use impact tape on the face and was hitting it close to centre as well - rare for me - it's those turbulators from Game Of Thrones - Go Khaleesi !
Hi Mark. Whilst these club overviews are great (and much better than others out there) there are no golf reviews that cover the cost / value for money of said equipment and this confuses me. Whilst I understand cost is all relative, the majority of other industries will tell me what I should expect to get for my money. For example, this G400 max is a full GBP100 cheaper than the new Callaway Rogue on the American Golf website. As a golfing novice, I don’t see any evidence that Callaway as a brand carries more prestige than Ping (if we use a car analogy, are Ping considered the VW compared to Callaway’s Mercedes?). I’m sure build quality and materials are all good as well so what justifies the price difference if the end result measured on a launch monitor is so similar?
I agree it’s an odd release from Ping. I’d be pretty annoyed/pissed off if I’d recently purchased a G400 standard or SFT. Maybe Ping’s release of the G400 Max is driven by feedback they received that a lot of golfers were getting poor numbers during fitting sessions or something. Almost a tacit admission that going smaller was a mistake & the Max is a do-over to save Ping’s sales this product cycle.
Will give this a proper testing, too bad I already got the G400 driver 6 months a go when they released it.. Would have loved Max to be an option back then, or even have info that max is coming and will have better forgiveness then the rest of the lineup. Would have gotten fit after max was relesed.
I agree with why not max!! Even Tony Finau one of the longest players on tour is rocking the max and not an LS or standard. Finding the short stuff and keeping it in play is more important than distance.
FML... I finally get a new driver - 400 SFT - and NOW they come out with this! Really? Much more in my wheelhouse. Hoping my local shop will let me trade just the head? And COACH!! Can you put a Callaway headcover on that bad boy and sneak it in the bag? #0.0
1sr driver fitting last week(max not available),,Trackman only picked up half of shots,,fitter said I hit up on ball too much.mixed with clubhead material. Any suggestions appreciated
David Q I'm not sure of the degree,,(he wants me to come back ,club champion fitters. )Said it's kinda like long drive competitors angle,,but I'm only 144 ball speed
Michael Sullivan club champion normally will give you a print out of your results. Something doesn't sound right. Perhaps it was an equipment problem on their side. Don't know. Hopefully Mark can answer your question. Just from personal experience, not a fan of club champion. Went there once before I found the fitter I use now. They have all the models and combos to try, but I felt like I got more of a salesman than a fitter. Ever shaft he gave me to try was at least $450. It just wasn't great in my opinion.
Oh wait a minute somehow since you signed with Titleist I thought you were suppose to be hatin' on all the other brands????? Oh right, haters nothing has changed!!! Well nothing has changed besides long ball 0 degrees off line!!!!! Put it in the bag locky!!!!!! Big test let's see how Rory "Mr. Man bun" hits it!!
I know we are all different but the 460 heads look huge and it gives me the feeling like I'm swinging a shaft with a spaceship attached to the end. The G400 is such a stunning driver.......460 is way too big. Ugh.
Hhhmmm. I bought the g400 a few months ago, now I feel a little bit cheated that there is a max version out now.. Would this club been better for Me?!?!?!?
Anyone else fast forward to Lockey’s drives as soon as you heard he was hitting? Army is loving that dead center strike. Lockey Magic.
Dan is a great addition to the carpet ride, yet there’s just something about the coach and Parfield together that makes it special. Thanks for the great laughs and making golf fun again!
It maybe raining for weeks but in true english tradition you made one of your best videos great fun to watch
Coach needs to be in more club reviews. He may be a pro but he sprays the ball all over the lot like us weekend warriors. Plus the comedic relief he provides is priceless.
Would love to see Mark filming Dan give Coach a driver fitting.
Who ever edited that last shot to make it look like coach hit it that straight is a genius 😉
kris lockert mark got better special effects than star wars now
Hi mark, I play the G400 because it has a smaller head and suits my eye, maybe because I’m from the late 70s early 80s when as you know the heads were much smaller, don’t get me wrong I’ve had 460cc headed drivers which look ok but some look to big as in the m1 and m2 driver they just don’t look right in my eyes so there you go I won’t change my ping G400 to the max as I’m happy with how I strike my driver so no need to change.
I've been using my Ping G400 Max for a few weeks now, I was previously using the 2017 model Taylormade M1. The Ping is a much better club, at least for me. It hits straight on a regular basis and I'm getting good distance with no swing changes. I find it to be a very stable club and much more forgiving than the Taylormade. I love the look down by the ball and the sound is all Ping! I recommend it.
Bruh lmao I legit started out with a 2016 M1 430cc X stiff driver. I just got a steal on eBay for a g400 Max with a x-flex for $192 in pretty good condition. The 30 extra cc help a golf noob like me out, easily the best driver I’ve ever had. Based on the reviews it’s not gonna change for a while for the price point and my skill level .
I just switched from the regular 400 to the max. My fitting showed a minimal gain in yardage but the key stay that was the deciding factor was the dispersion was a lot tighter on the max.
I bought a G400-LST at 8.5* and love it. I've been working very hard on my driver swing for awhile. Was hitting either a weak slice or a bad pull. Had an Adams XTD 10.5*. Accuracy was improving but I was spinning it around mid 4000s and launching about 18*. With my new LST, and fitted shaft, my spin has come down to the mid 3000s and launching 14-15*. I also think the smaller head is helping with club head speed. Before I would average upper 90s mph. Now I'm constantly over 100. I tried a lot of other drivers, and while some where quite good, I didn't get the numbers I do with the LST. I understand why people would want the MAX and if the number are right for them then definitely go for it.
Got a TM fitting day at Reading golf club in a few weeks. Going to see how many times I can mention Mark Crossfield videos during it
Well I’ve had the G400 SF-Tec since September and get on really well with it as a high handicapper. I have no fear hitting driver now, really love it, and the slightly smaller head!
Just got this driver and LOVE IT!!! Best driver I have ever owned. Even hitting a little to the heel produces great distance.
I'm in the market this year for a new driver and will try both the G400 and G400 Max. What I don't understand is why won't Ping offer other shafts at no up charge?
Mark, Dan and lockey best trio on RUclips!!
I will definitely give the G400 Max a try. I was thinking of upgrading from my G30 SFTec.
Had a fitting yesterday for the max and turns out for me it was spinning to high. and after trying a few shaft options the best numbers for me was the SFT head with the aldiila shaft. Interesting!
I've used the Ping G5 forever and I have tried others and not liked them. However I do need to try this beast out!!
That’s awesome I have a g30 3 wood and so far I love it keep up the great work mark!
Can you do a head to head with the max and regular g400
Not for me, prefer my 917 D3. Slightly smaller profile fits my eye better. Cheers Mark and Dan on your insight.
Coach must have thought that white line was a path 😜
Haha
GET UP DAN!!!!
Great video as always.
Attended demo day and really liked the Max. Spin rate at 3500 distance 252 straight ball flight. How do you lower spin rate?
Just bought the Ping G400 MAX Driver/ Ping you have done it again 10 out of 10
Stunning driver. Absolutely beautiful. I love the the copper colour against the grey and black. The matte finish looks smart. Not sure dan should be hitting a 9. #getupdan. Really soft sound for a driver would go nice with my soft balls. When I upgrade my clubs one day it’s mostly going to be on looks and feel.
I game the G400 SFT. Main reason is it come in 12*. The Max doesn't have that option (yet). As for the 15cc size difference, it's a moot point for me. Plus I like the compact head appearance better than the elongated look of the Max.
Hey the low & deep CG means this thing launches high (my testing of regular G400 validated this) & so those used to 12* can game a 10.5. Besides you can up the loft by 1*. Also this design negates any (slice) sidespin.
Good video post Mark, I have only ever had two Ping drivers, years ago one being the G5 the other G10. They both were the same results wise, I either hit them very very very good or very very very bad, there was NO in between and if there was a sweet spot on either driver, it was small. That was enough for me.
What I like about ping is that they listen and take on board issues or even just thoughts of the consumer. They tried out a smaller head (with a great look) but they’ve also appreciated that some prefer a larger head and so relatively under the radar they’ve released the max. No egos just good business
Have you tested the g400 3wood?
Good to see that twist face driver Taylormade, made for Tiger is working 😉
Coach hitting it on the line sold me immediately. It must have some sort of dynamic auto-correct feature.
Love the look of it. I like the big turbulators but I doubt they will make any difference to my drives.
Love these vids. A joy to watch on a wet Irish morning :D
I am a tech rep with PING and I had known of this coming out before the G400 launch, that being said I'm not sure why they launched separate. I had originally heard this was going to be a higher price point as well but that isn't the case now.
Either way, great club seems too be winning a huge % of my fittings as of late.
Just went and tried one of these against the Taylormade twist face and the Callaway something or other with jailbait technology. Bought the Ping, felt brilliant.
Great to see Lockey “Long Balls” make and appearance in the club testing.
I think this club will sell very well, if coach can hit it straight there is hope for all of us 😀
Very true
Doesn't seem to be any distinguishable drop off in terms of distance. You'd usually expect some kind of trade off, but it just looks like a good all rounder. Would be interesting to see how it performs on course.
I bought a LST about a month ago. I like the smaller head and more subtle turbulators. This just seems gimmicky (much more so than the current models) and although my game does need improvement, the “Max” name isn’t very clever and screams weekend golfer. Maybe cuz I relate it to the G400 Max irons as being super game improvement. I’m still very happy with my purchase and I can’t imagine I would have picked this if it was available at the time.
It looks fantastic on the bottom up through the shaft, but as with the last few ping driver/fairway lines, I have trouble with all the ridges on the crown when I look down at it. I'd probably get used to it if I played it for a couple of rounds, but it just looks to busy to my eye.
Gutted they have brought this out as I only got my G400
5 months ago
Would be great if Ping did a good deal on part exchange
Coach is the real test for any club ...
I currently play the G400 sft. My question is would the G400 max tend to give me more of a fade bias ball flight since it doesn't come with the weight located near the heal of the club?
A lot of TM boys missing fairways at the Farmers this weekend! Twistface anyone? You’re hilarious Bruh...
Todd Sincock Farmers? Tiger seemed to have come down with a serious case of Twist Face #ThirdOfFairways
Joseph Greenberg yes..Farmers. He sure did haha. How long before we see the 2016 M2 back in the monster bag??
We’re assuming that these guys are using the twist face. It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the TM sponsored pros are using M3 and M4 drivers without the twist face. 🤔
mjgrasso76 Any evidence at all that there are M3 or 4’s without TwistFace? Tiger talked about it in his fitting interview in Global Golf Post/Golf Digest. If didn’t want TwistFace, why not just keep M1 or 2?
Joseph Greenberg I have no evidence of this, just saying that it is a possibility. TM naturally would want the pros they sponsor to use the latest equipment for marketing. If the player preferred a traditional bulge and roll face, I wouldn’t think that it would be difficult to accommodate them.
Or maybe I just like a good conspiracy theory. 😆
I have the G400 LST. I like the smaller head -- I get a bit more speed with it.
I’m new to golf and found one of these second hand I’m amazing condition, is it still relevant in 2024?
Top review. I reckon Ping have looked at it at went, "oops we should have released the Max first, kets sneak it out". I have to say if I had a G400 I would be a bit miffed now the Max is out. Especially if the numbers could possibly be better with the larger head.
Head scratcher from Ping that to be honest.
Great swing there coach. You obviously do have experience with those turbulators showing up those straight hitters.
the 400 max with a low spin mid launch shaft might be serious beast
I’m still trying to find the best driver for me. I’m hitting the old tailor-made R11S driver. I’ve just upgraded my iron set. So I need to find the best driver. Do you have any advice for me to look at while I test out drivers?
I won a long drive contest using a G400 max. It's a very fine club.
I bought the G400 LST over the G400 Max because I prefer the smaller club head look. It doesn't compromise my distance off the tee and I was more accurate with it.
Got custom fit for the G400 as the Max didn’t come out at the time. The smaller head doesn’t bother me at all. But I also haven’t seen The Max in the flesh.
Coach's spin numbers are insane!
I need a fairway finder but the distance concerns me. I'd like to see you compare it to the the rogue.
I game the g400 with tour stiff shaft which was ping fitted and has taken me months to get comfortable and regular strike with ,I can see the extra head size making the different but not changing sticking with it now save my money and another relearn period just before the season .no thanks !!! great review and a cheeky exit by Dan the smile!! .Ps did club head speed slow down???
Would be a possibility if I didn’t have an Epic Subzero Driver, can’t drop more $
Nice looking Driver and looks like a good performer too
I like the looks and sound of that club. Would surely put it in the bag. Is Coach always lurking in the background?
Beeing a Titleist affenciado... this one... i really love it ! need to try this
Good numbers. In all seriousness, would you game this g400max??? I mean i know you can’t now (rrrrr, i’m still not over this btw) but you did not answer this question as you always used to....
I carry 280 yds on avg and love the emphasis by manufacturers lately of straighter distance. I’m more than happy to sacrifice 10 yds of distance for 5 yds of tighter dispersion, for example! Wish you commented more on this in your data testing.
Can’t wait to compare this max to my g400 vortex...although thinking at the moment that vortex is a dealbreaker.....agree? Lol
Todd Sincock i
Great review chaps, I liked the G 400 so I’m looking forward to hitting this also. Ta for the vid!
here's the thing Mark, Ping went for the smaller head to increase club head speed, which they said wouldn't compromise forgiveness. Now they come out with the Max. It's just annoying from Ping that those of us who went into the standard 400, which i'm happy with, didn't get a chance to hit this one. I think it was a mistake on Ping's part. Still happy with my 400, but would have like to have tested the Max. I think it would have been a natural progression from my old g30
Yeah, some unhappy Ping customers. I have the std G400. These things are not cheap. Like buying a new luxury car only to find a few months later, a better more powerful model came along. Not gonna trade in for the new one, are we? Tony Finau said the Max is hotter & obviously he's hitting it further & straighter than the other G400 models. No brainer really.
I'm actually going to trade it in for the new Cleveland Launcher with an upgraded shaft. That club is so easy to hit with really good distance. Sadlowski has it in the bag. At it's price point I can get club and shaft for a straight swap.
Coach beats the 2 straight ball hitters with the driver - that club must be magic.
Coach better put it in HIS BAG !!!! Best drive I have seen from him in 3-4 years ...... LOL He needs to join Sophie at Team PING , drop that Callaway crap !
Darrell Williams His Christmas and New Year sling balls seemed to work well albeit he was totally confused on how to hit the green from the fairway.
Even more reason to go TEAM PING !!! 😁👍
G400 max, Epic or Rogue ?
Great stuff guys.THAT'S what its all about.Fun with ya mates.
Great review making me want to get to the shop and hit it
I think the G400 LST still has its place in the market, but I am confused why the standard G400 exists anymore besides an extra choice of aesthetic. Ping could easily create a SFT version of the MAX, and thus seemingly cannibalize another of its products.
Lockey line ball... Outstanding
Loving the the looks, I would certainly go for the max🏌️♂️🏌️♂️👍💪🏆
Yeah love the look of that new club
When you asked Ping guys at Demo Day if that got it wrong by bringing out the most stable Max, they were a little confused too. You didn't seem to get a clear Anser from them, either. same with Vortex not being needed. was it ever? #awkward
Was waiting for a smaller driver head to come out from ping... alas g400. The looks are unbeatable and slightly smaller head actually gives me more confidence. Also I dont care if the turbulators do anything aerodynamically, they help at address for me
This is definitely a club I would try.
Great review 👍 I'm now looking for 1 of these in 2024 they are still fetching £200 +
I've just gone from the G400 LST to the Rogue SZ....... I and a good decision it is :)
Rick getting more serious and Mark getting more lovely wow time sure have changed...
0.0° pretty good ! I almost bought a G400 SFT (Straight Flight Tech - anti fade - and you cannot turn it left to right) back in January $659 Aussie $ ($US509). I didn't as all the hoopla started about TwistFace, so I waited for TwistFace. I'm a 14 marker. The M4 was ok, I didn't like the M3 - I didn't muck around with the adjustments much to be honest and they only had one regular shaft (so I will try again). I don't update clubs much as I tend to play the same 6 courses with buddies and know how to get around. Lately I've being playing much hard courses where I need to control driver as if I'm a foot off the fairway it is lost ! My gamer is a TaylorMade R580 XD from about 2004 ! Shaft is Stiff, 65 grams, low torque (whatever number that is !) Tip Firm. The Pro at the driving ranges laughs at it being so old and then I put a few holes in his back fence at 244 meters (Australia) with crappy range balls. Anyway I was hitting it mediocre at the range today - army golf - left / right / left / right and he said try the new G400 Max with an Alta Distanza 40g shaft. 40 grams !! I said OK but I'll snap it ! (Swing speed 108 mph). So ... SOOO ! .... BOOM ! Set at 10.5° it launches higher than a Jason Day 8 iron and carried to the back fence straight as a die. I've never seen anything like it ! Well Rory comes to mind ! Fluke ! So I try again - same ! I then hit two slices. Pro said just slow your swing down a bit - IT IS F@#$%N’ INSANE !! 4 in a row into the back fence, super straight but far too high. We knocked the launch angle down 2 notches so I guess that's 9.5° and that was much better, it was the end of a large bucket session and I was getting tired and then I hit a few more slices. I’ll get a proper fitting next week with the 9° head too. The head on these is huge and it has the highest MOI on the market - approaching illegal ! Light as a feather. I've always sought out stiffer shafts KuraKage 70 in the G400 standard so perhaps I'm erring. I'll get them to put me on TrackMan and we'll see what happens. But it was so impressive and forgiving - saying that I did use impact tape on the face and was hitting it close to centre as well - rare for me - it's those turbulators from Game Of Thrones - Go Khaleesi !
Hi Mark. Whilst these club overviews are great (and much better than others out there) there are no golf reviews that cover the cost / value for money of said equipment and this confuses me. Whilst I understand cost is all relative, the majority of other industries will tell me what I should expect to get for my money. For example, this G400 max is a full GBP100 cheaper than the new Callaway Rogue on the American Golf website. As a golfing novice, I don’t see any evidence that Callaway as a brand carries more prestige than Ping (if we use a car analogy, are Ping considered the VW compared to Callaway’s Mercedes?). I’m sure build quality and materials are all good as well so what justifies the price difference if the end result measured on a launch monitor is so similar?
Would definitely try it but hate the orange
I will try it, The 400 was great for me.
have last years Ping G Sf reg .. What about putting on the new CB shaft?
That looked like the counter balance Aldila shaft? Anyone have any feedback on that?
i'd play the other g400 because of the smaller head which looks better for me down by the ball
There is a shed at the bottom of Lockey's garden full of turbulators
I would go with G400 LST. I need lower spin and I prefer the smaller head size.
is grey the new beige?;)
I agree it’s an odd release from Ping. I’d be pretty annoyed/pissed off if I’d recently purchased a G400 standard or SFT. Maybe Ping’s release of the G400 Max is driven by feedback they received that a lot of golfers were getting poor numbers during fitting sessions or something. Almost a tacit admission that going smaller was a mistake & the Max is a do-over to save Ping’s sales this product cycle.
Hey, as I said before, the excellent competition in TM & Callaway would steal sales if the Max was not bought in to counter them.
If Coach is hitting lines, this is a must buy! #takemymoneyping
Gotta love Lockey “line” balls!!!
Tested. Felt great but my swing is too steep and spins over 4500. Lay those hands down!!!
More help and consistency every time for me .
Will give this a proper testing, too bad I already got the G400 driver 6 months a go when they released it.. Would have loved Max to be an option back then, or even have info that max is coming and will have better forgiveness then the rest of the lineup. Would have gotten fit after max was relesed.
I would like to see coach in all of your reviews
+1
Dan = boring Coach = the man!
I agree with why not max!! Even Tony Finau one of the longest players on tour is rocking the max and not an LS or standard. Finding the short stuff and keeping it in play is more important than distance.
FML... I finally get a new driver - 400 SFT - and NOW they come out with this! Really? Much more in my wheelhouse. Hoping my local shop will let me trade just the head? And COACH!! Can you put a Callaway headcover on that bad boy and sneak it in the bag? #0.0
1sr driver fitting last week(max not available),,Trackman only picked up half of shots,,fitter said I hit up on ball too much.mixed with clubhead material. Any suggestions appreciated
Did the fitter tell you what your launch angle and dynamic loft was on the shots it picked up?
David Q I'm not sure of the degree,,(he wants me to come back ,club champion fitters. )Said it's kinda like long drive competitors angle,,but I'm only 144 ball speed
Michael Sullivan club champion normally will give you a print out of your results. Something doesn't sound right. Perhaps it was an equipment problem on their side. Don't know. Hopefully Mark can answer your question. Just from personal experience, not a fan of club champion. Went there once before I found the fitter I use now. They have all the models and combos to try, but I felt like I got more of a salesman than a fitter. Ever shaft he gave me to try was at least $450. It just wasn't great in my opinion.
David Q thanks for the insight! I'll make sure to get printouts when they give it a go next time.
Oh wait a minute somehow since you signed with Titleist I thought you were suppose to be hatin' on all the other brands????? Oh right, haters nothing has changed!!! Well nothing has changed besides long ball 0 degrees off line!!!!! Put it in the bag locky!!!!!! Big test let's see how Rory "Mr. Man bun" hits it!!
I know we are all different but the 460 heads look huge and it gives me the feeling like I'm swinging a shaft with a spaceship attached to the end. The G400 is such a stunning driver.......460 is way too big. Ugh.
Hhhmmm. I bought the g400 a few months ago, now I feel a little bit cheated that there is a max version out now.. Would this club been better for Me?!?!?!?
M DC do u think ping will let us swap to the max hahaha
Yes agree, though not tested the Max, by all accounts I would have gone for it instead of the regular G400. Pity really.
I hit 5 new (2020) drivers today. I was ready to spend $550 but left with a new (2018) Ping G400MAX for $400.