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  • @stefanhallin
    @stefanhallin Месяц назад +19

    BYD is making their biggest profit on battery production, which probably accounts for their cash on hand.

  • @nocomments7734
    @nocomments7734 Месяц назад +16

    The bike sharing still exists in China. It’s just now run by Didi (the big ride sharing company), Meituan (restaurant directory and delivery company), and Alipay (part of Alibaba). Basically the startups destroyed themselves fighting each other and then the big tech conglomerates just ate the whole market.

    • @alfeeman
      @alfeeman Месяц назад +1

      the startup’s aim is to be bought out by the big players, they are gone but the founders are still winners

  • @b21raider27
    @b21raider27 Месяц назад +21

    27% increase in energy density. Wow, BYD is really killing it with new battery tech.
    Seal is beautiful, $25,000 and surprisingly good quality.
    China (30 million) & US (15 million) new car sales close to 60% of global total.

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 9 дней назад

      Chinese batteries are the least reliable.

  • @timothykeith1367
    @timothykeith1367 Месяц назад +13

    Henry Ford did the same thing with the Model T. He partly did it to buy out his major investors - mostly the Dodge brothers. He decreased the per vehicle profits of Ford Motor Company, but sales increased and the stock price increased- making the Dodges wealthier - which was not what Henry wanted. 1923 was peak Model T sales year, then pretty much everyone who wanted a Model T already had one.

    • @dawebslave3571
      @dawebslave3571 Месяц назад

      Tesla could not make the balance before they opened the Gigafactory in Shanghai.

  • @jamespn
    @jamespn Месяц назад +6

    I’d buy a BYD plug in hybrid in a second, if our government would let me.

  • @GaryJohnWalker1
    @GaryJohnWalker1 Месяц назад +3

    I'm sure BYD make more on hybrids - a slightly refreshed but basically a small crude 2 decade old petrol engine and a small battery. But given BYD has been pushing BYDs for nearly 15 years including a lot of bus, coach and vans. Plus they started out as a battery maker nearly 30 years ago, I reckon they are still profitable on most of their electric cars.

  • @kckfen
    @kckfen Месяц назад +11

    BYD make alot more cumulatively in battery than car.

    • @cifey
      @cifey Месяц назад

      Time for a Xi trust bust...

  • @rataplan2997
    @rataplan2997 Месяц назад +37

    They are doing a great job one way or another! Well done BYD!

    • @jono601
      @jono601 Месяц назад

      How is an achievement when the company is basically the Chinese communist party? Why don’t you also congratulate the Soviet Union for their success?

    • @RealJeep
      @RealJeep Месяц назад

      Thank you Little Pink.

  • @qilu2004
    @qilu2004 Месяц назад +8

    BYD’s gross margin is higher than Tesla’s. But BYD invests more on r&d that is why its net profit is lower.

    • @user-nf4st5kn6l
      @user-nf4st5kn6l Месяц назад +1

      I do not think so

    • @ciybersal3499
      @ciybersal3499 Месяц назад +3

      Correct

    • @elapplzsl
      @elapplzsl Месяц назад

      Lol probably not, Tesla makes the highest margin.

    • @larryevans6739
      @larryevans6739 Месяц назад

      ​@@elapplzsl Tesla makes the most net margin. Net margin includes things like taxes, R&D and operating expenses. Automotive Gross Margin is the difference between cost to make a vehicle and what you sell it for. BYD made roughly 25% automotive gross margin, while Tesla made roughly 15%. Tesla's automotive gross margin is also less than Toyota and roughly in line with Ford. BYD outspends Tesla in R&D, but pays less in selling costs, which are higher for Tesla due to their direct-model. Tesla gets $1.8 billion in regulatory credit revenue which makes up 12% of their net. But the biggest difference is tax subsidies. BYD pays corporate income tax while Tesla has never paid US corporate income tax due to subsidies in the tax code. And Tesla pulled forward $5 Billion in tax advantages and counted it in their net income for 2023 as a one-time adjustment. That is why their net income is 50% higher than their EBITA.

    • @larryevans6739
      @larryevans6739 Месяц назад

      BYD's automotive gross magin is significantly higher. People who doubt that should actually look at their income statements. Tesla also got $1.8 Billion in regulatory credit revenue. But the thing that inflates Tesla net margin the most has more to do with tax subsidies. In 2023 specifically, Tesla pulled $5 Billion in tax advantages forward as a one time time adjustment, accounting for 1/3 of their net margin and raising their net profits 50% higher than their EBITA.

  • @jefflittle8913
    @jefflittle8913 Месяц назад +5

    If their balance sheets improved faster than they accrued earnings, most likely they were a net seller of stock.

  • @jogana6909
    @jogana6909 Месяц назад +32

    The result of competition is that consumers benefit.
    Instead of manufacturers making high profits.

    • @stefan2796
      @stefan2796 Месяц назад +1

      EVs are still very expensive. In Europe, US: around $50K...

    • @colinwiseman
      @colinwiseman Месяц назад +3

      ​@@stefan2796was it your lie that eclipsed the sun the other day?

    • @fractalelf7760
      @fractalelf7760 Месяц назад

      Teslas profits go towards making a better future, no harm there. They are not about lining their pockets.

    • @nguyenhanh9479
      @nguyenhanh9479 Месяц назад +1

      if you sell car at low to negative profit how the F are you expect to pay employee and re-invest in your business ?

    • @colinwiseman
      @colinwiseman Месяц назад

      @@nguyenhanh9479 because you don't understand how business works. Debt is an allowed thing. By under cutting, to put your competitors out of business, you're seen as an asset to debtors. So they'll keep lending knowing at some point you'll raise prices and rake it in.

  • @coolco1619
    @coolco1619 Месяц назад +4

    Been an entrepreneur in the past and know what "race to the bottom " strategy was like, in the end it was so soul destroying to even wonder why you got up to work every morning hence you would throw the towel in. A sad sad situation. BYD should stop this behaviour and start to think. Competition is actually healthy for any business.

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC Месяц назад

      i dont see BYD using the RtoB strategy, it creates a lot of workable technology more than any car company in the world.
      It wins by new technologies.
      More people buy tesla car, becauze of politic reason and worship (not goodwill) of american products.
      Does Biden dare to open american market to chinese cars, Chinese administration can do for decades.
      Competition is actually healthy for any business? talk to him not using national security.

    • @elmohead
      @elmohead Месяц назад +1

      They make $1k for every BYD sold and make $5k for every Tesla sold.

  • @thomass.8742
    @thomass.8742 Месяц назад +4

    according to the financial data Tesla has a gross profit Margin of 18,2% in the last 4 quarters, whereas BYD had 19.8% ... sure this is the whole company and not only EVs but nontheless the numbers are very simmilar.

  • @WM12329
    @WM12329 Месяц назад +5

    The UK had a lot of independent car manufacturers until the 1970's. Then came 'survival of the fittest' and only a few carmakers remained. The same will happen in China. Apart from that the key is: Batteries. If you build and control the flow of batteries and you supply other carmakers, you can disrupt their supply at any time or create a shortage. You can push the price up for them. Unless they have an alternative, they're screwed! Therefore, if Western carmakers are years behind, no batteries = no cars. BYD will increase their export numbers every year as they build batteries to power their cars and ship them abroad in their own ships. They don't need to rely on others. Tesla and BYD will win out eventually, other Chinese EV makers will cease trading and Western brands will diminish, particularly when they rely on building 'Western' EV's in China so they can make larger profits.

  • @NiejakiDD
    @NiejakiDD Месяц назад

    Scary... and great perspective! 😎

  • @yammybolo222
    @yammybolo222 Месяц назад +6

    BYD is playing the long game..with their vertical integration (better than Tesla’s) going all the way back to the lithium mines…nobody can build an EV as cheap and as high quality as BYD…other manufacturers will go broke trying to compete and BYD will buy them up at pennies on the dollar and expand….BYD ceo is the Chinese Elon Musk…imagine if they merged (as I suggested in an article back in 2012)…unbeatable!

    • @fractalelf7760
      @fractalelf7760 Месяц назад

      lol on what evidence is their vertical integration better than Tesla? And do you truly think Tesla of all companies is not playing a “long game”? Really? And let’s be honest, BYDs CEO is a pale imitation of Elon at best, like comparing Cod to Alaskan Salmon… sales just went into the toilet for BYD last quarter…

    • @justinr9753
      @justinr9753 Месяц назад

      Both BYD and Tesla are mining, BYD has had issues in Chile, Tesla in Indonesia because they thought they would be able to mine like they do where there's no enforced regulations and destroy the environment.

    • @fractalelf7760
      @fractalelf7760 Месяц назад

      @@justinr9753 WTF Tesla is more green than anyone - evidence for this claiming of anti-environmental mining? Put up or its a lie.

  • @timshields6572
    @timshields6572 Месяц назад

    A CEO of a company I worked for once stated his philosophy: Profit Follows Growth. Seems like BYD agrees.

  • @robinheider414
    @robinheider414 Месяц назад +5

    Imo byd is setting its sights on Japan and its plug in hybrid market.

    • @fractalelf7760
      @fractalelf7760 Месяц назад +2

      LOL good luck to them…

    • @justinr9753
      @justinr9753 Месяц назад

      I was looking at the Numbers because Daihatsu thing. People still want Toyota, just not Daihatsu.

  • @cheeweeiteoh4545
    @cheeweeiteoh4545 Месяц назад +10

    True market capitalist economy. The strong stays and the weaker go down. I thought this is what is taught in our textbook.

    • @229andymon
      @229andymon Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, but as soon as the strong have destroyed the weak, they then turn on each other.

    • @cheeweeiteoh4545
      @cheeweeiteoh4545 Месяц назад +2

      @@229andymon Do not worry. Change is a constant. Nothing stays the same. Something new will always happen. New innovation will happen and company go up and down.

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC Месяц назад +5

      this was the reasons that america was talking about globlization to facilitate its giant companies.
      now america is talking about national security, while its strong companies becomes weak.

  • @Reddylion
    @Reddylion Месяц назад +5

    Byd ev 👍 now isntall that updated blade batteries now.

  • @conradbo1
    @conradbo1 Месяц назад

    Interesting and informative video.

  • @justinr9753
    @justinr9753 Месяц назад +1

    That's funny that Tesla profit is right about where the subsidy is because both Ford and GM was going to have $7000 and $5400 discounts as soon as subsidies ended. Just goes to show where the subsidies go because you know they would drop the price without them

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

    Cheers mate

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

    Morning mate

  • @good2freelance1
    @good2freelance1 Месяц назад

    Question, BYD plug in hybrid has only 1 motor for driving correct (electric motor) ?
    Why Toyota plug in hybrid has two motors (1 electric motor & 1 petrol motor) for driving.
    If this is the case, 1 motor is better (less parts, less problems).

  • @paullynass4848
    @paullynass4848 Месяц назад +4

    Doesn't Tesla get Subsidised by the tax payer in usa

    • @mrc1436
      @mrc1436 Месяц назад +1

      All car companies in US get subsidized GM for instance got 100’s of millions in special ultra low interest loans and no pay grants for EV’s from US government.

    • @manimalworks7424
      @manimalworks7424 Месяц назад

      No, we call that incentive.

  • @leerizer
    @leerizer Месяц назад +17

    BYD is producing more hybrid than BEV

    • @chillfluencer
      @chillfluencer Месяц назад

      ...because BYD knows how to convince more people of complete BEVs faster. Tesla puts no effort into that overall goal but is just interested in milking a few Tesla owners because it is easily satisfied with its selfish goal. Chinese BEV manufacturers will last way way longer than Tesla...which night only exist for 100 to 200 years...nothing compared to China and Chinese vehicle companies.

    • @user-nf4st5kn6l
      @user-nf4st5kn6l Месяц назад

      Yes. It is a pain.

    • @colinwiseman
      @colinwiseman Месяц назад +2

      They need to to get the non EV lovers on board.

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC Месяц назад +3

      PHEV is a must for some places, cuz charger stations installation needs time.

    • @makesirich-ps6zw
      @makesirich-ps6zw Месяц назад

      You are wrong. Since last year, BYD's EV sales have been higher than Hybrid.
      Sales data is public and can be checked at any time.

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 Месяц назад

    BYD are doing a Tesla
    Tesla used to be about getting as many cars out there so that FSD can be implemented across the fleet. Now BYD are doing exactly that. (Whether they have their own version of FSD under development remains to be seen.)

  • @charrin9086
    @charrin9086 Месяц назад

    This just proves that BYD will be underwhelming when it attempts to compete with other automakers by building vehicles outside of China. If they are only averaging $1750 now, imagine the loss per vehicle when built in a European plant….
    BYD builds great batteries- but they are stuck in olden times along with everyone not named Tesla in terms of vehicle simplicity and design.

  • @kritdeknor4711
    @kritdeknor4711 Месяц назад

    If the price difference were much different I would buy a BYD, but in Norway price from a Tesla and BYD ain’t that great difference. Would you buy an iPhone or a Chinese made phone if the price were only 10-20% difference? BYD dolphin 299k vs TM3 380k. If BYD dolphin cost 200k it would be worth to buy. Tesla tech and service/style alone worth 80k.

  • @tobindrake2767
    @tobindrake2767 Месяц назад +1

    No company can run their factories at 100% utilization. You'll wear out your staff and the manufacturing equipment. Factories have to be re-tooled, cleaned, and repaired. I really found your comment that companies should be running at 100% utilization completely ridiculous.

  • @neildolan7177
    @neildolan7177 Месяц назад +1

    This may be an accounting trick & some of the profit is taken up in the battery company.

  • @chillout1109
    @chillout1109 Месяц назад

    BYD is making a profit, albeit a few thousand per car. That's progress. Comparing BYD's profit margins to Tesla's profit margins is a bit unfair. Everyone with even a little car market knowledge knows that no carmaker can be compared to Tesla at the moment.

  • @davehasenford3985
    @davehasenford3985 Месяц назад

    kind of weird to go after market share on a one time purchase.

  • @lesliecarter4295
    @lesliecarter4295 Месяц назад +9

    Sam is pivoting so much now 😂 Toyota correct 👍

    • @jasoncarmichael4540
      @jasoncarmichael4540 Месяц назад

      No he’s just telling you what byd is doing , my god

    • @markdev4796
      @markdev4796 Месяц назад

      Why do you watch the channel to do nothing but troll, is there not more to your life?

    • @TomTom-dy6qr
      @TomTom-dy6qr Месяц назад

      Toyokia 😂

    • @crm114.
      @crm114. Месяц назад

      Ah yes, Toyota, the company with the biggest dept of any on the planet.

  • @alastairhatt360
    @alastairhatt360 Месяц назад +2

    The reason BYD use larger batteries is to compensate for them being less efficient than Tesla which is why they use smaller batteries. This has been proven with a few auto motive tests. Which car etc and bigger batteries more weight so hence the nearly 400 to 500kg heavier BYD Seal.

  • @JamaicanMeCrazy
    @JamaicanMeCrazy Месяц назад

    2000 km range??? That's( carry the one) 1243 Miles. 🤔 That would make a good taxi if it's reliable

  • @marcionphilologos5367
    @marcionphilologos5367 Месяц назад

    BYD is vertical integrated and shifts / hides its profits on different levels (for instance by battery production investments). The new BYD Hybrids have a battery for at least 100km of EV range, enough for most city-dwellers. (as you know is the gas consumption of ICE cars until 60-80km/ hour relative high). The fact that Tesla has only 2 good selling models worldwide after 5 years, will bring financial problems in the future......

  • @michaelsomething7674
    @michaelsomething7674 Месяц назад

    You don't profit by selling. You make by producing or reduction in production cost.

  • @richardwhitehouse8762
    @richardwhitehouse8762 Месяц назад

    Thought I'd comnented but it seems to have disappeared
    Seems to me its all about supply and demand. Currently in China there's more demand for PHEVs than BEVs. BYD has both in its portfolio so it can meet this demand. Tesla doesn't, so it can't. In the last qtr, Tesla made 50k more cars than it sold, yet the official blueb was all about supply side hiccups. If true, that should have meant a shortage of vehicles not a glut. Hmmm. Tesla's biggest problem is that the rhetoric (eg "FSD next year" - every year since 2016) always overstates rather than understates. At some point this comes back to bite the hand that feeds it.

  • @toddpossum
    @toddpossum Месяц назад +3

    Thanks!

  • @MuaBanSieuXe-yb9gj
    @MuaBanSieuXe-yb9gj Месяц назад +5

    Tes price down more

  • @Slaytheday388
    @Slaytheday388 Месяц назад

    That’s why they are trying to sell more cars that way their profit per car will go up. Also they don’t have any charging infrastructure

  • @rockycata6078
    @rockycata6078 Месяц назад +5

    Hey Viking, did you see Sandy Munro's video, where he was speaking at the same forum as Xi Xinping(?) The Chairman said 50% of Chinese car companies would not exist in 2025(...!) Yeah, the CCP has its favorites, but even if only ten remain, they will be the ten that nobody else can beat. Tesla is going to stay competitive in the Chinese market, not looking for more market share to embarrass it's hosts, but 10-15% of a market with 350M 'middle-class' consumers should keep everyone happy, which is why Tesla can buy batteries from BYD and/or CATL without any conflict over price/performance. Tesla alone is the Chinese model for a capitalist Enterprise in China. It is their country, their markets, and when you are the guest you should not embarrass your host in any way. China, given the North American and European anti-EV Tesla experience, has been the most productive, least dramatic, and easiest business/public environment.

  • @user-dc2ot2tj2b
    @user-dc2ot2tj2b Месяц назад

    1250 a car if this is true that means the thousends cars standing outside to rot
    they are word if complete 1250 take it or leave it.

  • @BattousaiZ
    @BattousaiZ Месяц назад

    BYD is going after the global EV market by killing the competition. They play the long game.

  • @bricsscorcepcstobriopecvsu8796
    @bricsscorcepcstobriopecvsu8796 Месяц назад

    WHAT ABOUT MI EV COMPETITIVENESS.???

  • @blackstone3469
    @blackstone3469 Месяц назад

    I need no car! Good for me!

  • @keithdesouza2841
    @keithdesouza2841 Месяц назад

    Tesla is able to make a lot more profit in US, BYD is not present and won't be allowed in. Lack of competition is why Tesla has a bigger profit. Musk also said he can't compete if Chinese manufacturers come in

  • @vlhc4642
    @vlhc4642 Месяц назад

    Tesla need to pay for CATL and other supplier's profit on every car sold, whereas BYD is far more vertically integrated and retains all profit on batteries and inputs, It's physically impossible for Tesla to make more profit per car than BYD.
    What BYD does that Tesla doesn't is invest that profit into more R&D, better battery chemstry, new inhouse 800V power semiconductors, whereas Tesla lets CATL do the R&D and reports unspent profit as "higher" earnings for stocks, that's the only reason Tesla's net profit look better than BYD.
    At end of the day the two companies aren't comaprable, BYD makes trucks, buses, cars, SUVs, batteries, chips, storage, and everything in between, whereas Tesla builds a car using sourced parts and sourced battery. Tesla is a modern day coach maker, BYD is an Ford.

  • @alecmat
    @alecmat Месяц назад

    How many white shirts does this man have ?

  • @paulcricket7299
    @paulcricket7299 Месяц назад

    Take out $7,500 Tesla gets in US and it’s not so great is it?

  • @davidpicard5376
    @davidpicard5376 Месяц назад

    Is profit on the agenda in China? Or is it more like a protracted erosion of competition regardless of the consequences. Isn't this in keeping with the long game? I never thought the purchasing of products would be determined by geopolitical influence.

  • @geoffsimns8424
    @geoffsimns8424 Месяц назад +11

    Given the profit difference and the price difference (not a lot) it is obvious Tesla produces their cars for a lower cost than BYD - sure, BYD sells millions of cars at a low profit and thereby makes a large profit over a longer period of time by building their market - that's how China plans, in decades and multiple decades, as opposed to the western model of months and years...

    • @nagki
      @nagki Месяц назад +5

      BYD makes cars from entry level to luxury models, just imagine the flexibility in manufacturing they must be having. I don't think BYD needs multiple decades to breakeven the profit. They sell thousand other things from small hatches to busses and trucks, not to mention the profit making plugin hybrids that Tesla doesn't sell. If Seal entry model costs 25k USD, how is that expensive than what Tesla is doing?

    • @bubuneowoo6161
      @bubuneowoo6161 Месяц назад +3

      BYD margins are 23%, higher than Tesla's! No amount of desperate pumping will save TSLA. Already down 33% YTD! Wait until the first quarter results are announced. Another BLOODBATH!

    • @larryevans6739
      @larryevans6739 Месяц назад

      That is quantifiably false. Gross margin is the measure of cost of goods sold (COGS) versus what a company sells them for. BYD's automotive gross margin was roughly 25%, while Tesla's was roughly 15%. Tesla does get 1.8 Billion in regulatory credit sales in addition. BYD does spend more on R&D, which is an operating expense. Tesla has higher selling costs because of direct sales. But the biggest difference is tax subsidies. BYD pays significant corporate income tax while Tesla has never paid US corporate income tax. And they pulled $5 BIllion in tax advantages forward, 1/3 of their net profit, as a one time adjustment. Tesla's net margin was 50% more than their EBITA because of this.
      In other words, BYD produces their cars for less compared to what they sell for. Tesla gets more in regulatory credit subsidy revenue. Tesla spends less on R&D. And Tesla gets dramatically more in tax subsidies.

  • @asajelfs8170
    @asajelfs8170 Месяц назад

    GM and Ford lose thousands of dollars on every car. Scaling production is key to profit, Ford and GM are winding back production The road looks very rocky for these two.

  • @MichaelLloydMobile
    @MichaelLloydMobile Месяц назад +2

    Corporations must make a reasonable profit off their products.
    When an electric vehicle is sold there is little maintenance or other aftermarket profits to be made.
    When gasoline becomes too expensive because most vehicles are Electric, the World Market will be replaced by Electric vehicles.
    This saturation will force electric vehicle manufacturers to slow production, due to the electric vehicle used car market.
    And electric vehicles last much longer than gasoline vehicles.
    Tesla is solving that problem with full self-driving and robotaxis, not to mention Tesla's other ventures.
    After all this time Tesla is still the only significant electric vehicle manufacturer in the world.

  • @jaysu8669
    @jaysu8669 Месяц назад +26

    Is it wrong trying to kill your competitions? In the early years of automobile industry, the number of active automobile manufacturers dropped from 253 in 1908 to only 44 in 1929. Now days there are only 3-4 in US. Competition creates industry. Unfortunately there is no competition in US any more for almost all industries.

    • @koenraad4618
      @koenraad4618 Месяц назад

      western industry is a big blackrock-vanguard cartel, invested interest kills innovation

    • @229andymon
      @229andymon Месяц назад +6

      That’s the paradox of capitalism. Without state control (anti-monopoly) regulations, the private sector would destroy itself.

    • @yammybolo222
      @yammybolo222 Месяц назад +2

      @@229andymon I think you will find it is state control and regulations that prevent new entrants into the auto market as it is simply too costly to enter with far too many rules/regulations…Tesla was a 1 in a million shot

    • @colinwiseman
      @colinwiseman Месяц назад +3

      ​@@yammybolo222 I think you'll find that those rules and regulation don't hinder competition. Being able your under cut your competitors to put them out of business is easy when you've been doing it for years with a big bank balance.

    • @colinwiseman
      @colinwiseman Месяц назад +1

      ​@@yammybolo222(without those rules and regulations there would be a fair few more deaths on the roads...)

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Месяц назад +1

    BYD still get a little profit

    • @larryevans6739
      @larryevans6739 Месяц назад

      BYD's profits went up while they also cut prices last year and subsidies were phased out in China.

  • @thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513
    @thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513 Месяц назад +2

    7 times profit but 1USD=7 RMB, quite reasonable.

  • @elmohead
    @elmohead Месяц назад +2

    People forget that BYD is still primarily a battery company. They make $1k per car sold, and they make $5k per Tesla sold.

  • @snappingclam8801
    @snappingclam8801 Месяц назад

    Consumers will benefit in the short term but it'll be a different story when Chinese producers - effectively govt entities - control the EV market. There will be NO competition.

  • @MaximGhost
    @MaximGhost Месяц назад

    As long as they aren't fake Evergrande profits, they're doing respectable for a Chinese EV/hybrid/battery company. I'll hold on to my BYD stocks and I suspect you will too, Sam ... right?

    • @RealJeep
      @RealJeep Месяц назад

      Way to support a repressive communist regime comrade. Xi will be proud.

  • @johnpui7484
    @johnpui7484 Месяц назад

    But Mr Wong is the nice guy here, right?

  • @cutehumor
    @cutehumor Месяц назад

    I got to handle it to the Chinese byd to destroy the ev market around the whole world

  • @geoffsimns8424
    @geoffsimns8424 Месяц назад +3

    That's the Chinese model for manufacturing; make many products at a low price rather than a few products at a higher price and eventually you will dominate the market - now tell me that is not working....

    • @andynguyen144
      @andynguyen144 Месяц назад +1

      It isn't byd stands for burn your dreams. They catch fire even when you're sleeping 😂

    • @harrylo2316
      @harrylo2316 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@andynguyen144Pfffttt - how is your backwards country doing with Vinfast? 😂

    • @andynguyen144
      @andynguyen144 Месяц назад

      @@harrylo2316 I'm an American sir. Vinfast will BK even with government subsidies.

    • @harrylo2316
      @harrylo2316 Месяц назад

      @@andynguyen144 You're not fooling anyone with a name like that.😂

  • @Frankmaui67
    @Frankmaui67 Месяц назад

    I agree with the comments that capitalism is a good model, but that you also need government control of monopolies if it gets out of control and one or two is dominating

  • @mashlangu
    @mashlangu Месяц назад +1

    It shows you that BYD gives better value for money than Tesla. I jumped to the opportunity and bought myself a ATTO 3

  • @thavatutor
    @thavatutor Месяц назад

    Competition is between EV and ICE

  • @franciskwanjoolim7552
    @franciskwanjoolim7552 Месяц назад

    Did you own a BYD ?

  • @batchint
    @batchint Месяц назад +1

    good job… sam

  • @sash_is_my_name
    @sash_is_my_name Месяц назад

    BYD profit margins are the the same as every other auto manufacture (

  • @bayernvoeller
    @bayernvoeller Месяц назад

    Yellen - ' China's BYD is just another over capacity scrap metal production - nobody would fancy Chinese cars ... '

  • @raoulcruz4404
    @raoulcruz4404 Месяц назад

    Making a profit is really easy when car purchases are funded by the taxpayers. ( Federal Tax Credit).

  • @peteryates7505
    @peteryates7505 Месяц назад

    Sounds like Tesla are gouging their customers…not sure that is a good message Tesla Viking

    • @larryevans6739
      @larryevans6739 Месяц назад +1

      More like Tesla is gouging the US taxpayer. BYD has roughly 10% higher automotive gross margin, which is the difference between cost of goods sold and what you sell them for. BYD does spend more on R&D (more than their net profit), which does reduce their net margin. But BYD also pays corporate income taxes in China. Tesla has never paid US corporate income tax, gets $1.8 Billion in US regulatory credits (12% of their net margin), and pulled $5 Biillion in tax subsidies forward as a one time adjustment (1/3 of their net margin for 2023).

  • @Lululemon2023
    @Lululemon2023 Месяц назад

    Urm, this has been going on for a long time, US companies make the most money and rest take the crumbs, e.g., Apple makes 80% of the profit of the smart phone industry in the world. This is what hegemony means, US industries will win in every market they care to dominate. It used to be the British, now the US.

    • @clemlo4973
      @clemlo4973 Месяц назад

      What?! Apple is 20% and so does Samsung...
      What are you on?

    • @Lululemon2023
      @Lululemon2023 Месяц назад

      @@clemlo4973 Apple makes 80% of the profit, in the global smart phone industry. Samsung has the volume

  • @kamgarcha1021
    @kamgarcha1021 Месяц назад

    EV's are on their way down, to the charging station, again!!

  • @litestuffllc7249
    @litestuffllc7249 Месяц назад

    Making $1400 per vehicle isnt EVs, they probably lose money on EVs like every other Chinese maker. Tesla had the advantage of going for the more high end market and earlier than others ;now Even Tesla may be seeing loses on sales; they certainly do on Cybertruck and Semi ; they just avoid making very many so they can absorb the losses. The Auto industry in general and the BEV industry specificallly is going to have a lot of blood this next quarter or two; maybe further depending if Trump is elected and what he does if he is elected.

  • @tonypaca3015
    @tonypaca3015 Месяц назад +2

    That's not true. Remove the $7000 of tax credit per vehicle that tesla sells, you gonna have 0 profit. Byd gets 0 from tax benefits

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 Месяц назад +2

    PHEVs are a good interim technology, as long as they give decent range so you're not lugging a big battery around for nothing, and for the same reason, can fast charge, so you can recharge on road trips.
    Tesla and Toyota are not considering the situation clearly for different reasons. Toyota in their denial of EVs, and Tesla in their denial of the desire for affordable EVs and the lag time of charging network globally to bypass the need for a PHEV stage. BYD are smart.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom Месяц назад

      Sure, just means you pay for the fuel and upkeep for a ICE power train as well. When did Tesla ever deny there was a desire for an affordable EV? They have been talking about the need for one for many years.

    • @yggdrasil9039
      @yggdrasil9039 Месяц назад

      @@TheEvilmooseofdoom I can't speak for BYD PHEVs as I haven't owned one as they're not available here yet, but a Toyota hybrid power train is almost literally zero maintenance, and the upkeep involves oil and filter change and filling it with petrol. That's it. Only thing I've had to replace over 100,000km was the battery a couple of times, which was $1,000. With a good offpeak power rate I might have been a bit ahead by using electricity over petrol, but no where near enough to justify the cost of an EV 8 years ago.
      Tesla has an affordable EV as part of their master plan. However I suspect that Elon's main goal is FSD.
      In the meantime, the market for an affordable EV has been ceded to BYD and others.

    • @timothykeith1367
      @timothykeith1367 Месяц назад

      Many will never recover the extra costs of a PHEV from fuel savings. You can be better off buying a simpler non hybrid when you don't drive a lot. The standard Toyota hybrid is probably less costly overall than the similar PHEV. Many don't do the math. If a super battery is installed in a future PHEV, many might never use the gasoline motor, except on seldom cross country trips.
      Many Americans buy pickup truck because they *might* need one two or three times a year. The same logic applies to spendy PHEVs.

    • @yggdrasil9039
      @yggdrasil9039 Месяц назад +1

      @@timothykeith1367 Yeah, it depends on 3 things:
      sticker price impost of PHEV over diesel
      range
      fast charging capability
      I'd say though that V2L is a big plus for PHEVs that justify some extra cost if working with tools away from the grid.

    • @douglaswatt1582
      @douglaswatt1582 Месяц назад

      Tesla is the single greatest factor and agent in the direction of making EV's affordable and are the unquestioned leader in terms of creating a viable charging network. So you have no idea what you are talking about and are just another clueless troll.

  • @bubuneowoo6161
    @bubuneowoo6161 Месяц назад +1

    BYD margins are 23%, higher than Tesla's! No amount of desperate pumping will save TSLA. Already down 33% YTD! Wait until the first quarter results are announced. Another BLOODBATH!

  • @Botoburst
    @Botoburst Месяц назад

    Sorry if you bought that cheap crap. 🤨

  • @lukeecle117
    @lukeecle117 Месяц назад +1

    Tesla doesn't need marketing , Elon just needs to tweet on X

  • @fauxbro1983
    @fauxbro1983 Месяц назад

    Lol l. Whats tesla's writedown gonna be when china decides tesla's manyfacturing in china is no longer required

  • @5yh0ng
    @5yh0ng Месяц назад

    Yeah... How are we to handle the disposal of those batteries in the future? Yet another burden passed down to future generations to grapple with? While I may be willing to manage my household waste, if it originates from a malevolent and unjust actor... one intent on fomenting global discord, then count me out.

  • @witcheater
    @witcheater Месяц назад +2

    I am so ready for the Unions not to have any political clout any longer. If that means that the "legacy" auto makers in the USofA go under... so be it. AND... for those that spout the jobs will be lost mantra... I am ex-military. Not professed at all when signing up is that your job WILL be lost. I survived... so can they (if not willing to be babies about it).

  • @user-tx5be6hc4r
    @user-tx5be6hc4r Месяц назад

    Why don’t u show Tesla graveyards ?

  • @larrym12
    @larrym12 Месяц назад +1

    we predict that sooner or later there will be a factory recall and then they will be in a shitload of trouble low profit will not be able to cover the repair costs

    • @bubuneowoo6161
      @bubuneowoo6161 Месяц назад +1

      BYD margins are 23%, higher than Tesla's! No amount of desperate pumping will save TSLA. Already down 33% YTD! Wait until the first quarter results are announced. Another BLOODBATH!

  • @snow-uq4gx
    @snow-uq4gx Месяц назад

    Tesla over charges for its cars thats why the market corrects the prices when it comes time 2 resale them😂😂😂💩💩 tesla don't hold its value 😏

  • @chrisbarron5861
    @chrisbarron5861 Месяц назад +2

    Just shows how vastly overpriced the Tesla is really

  • @manimalworks7424
    @manimalworks7424 Месяц назад

    BYD has a over capacity problem

    • @fredericoduvel3092
      @fredericoduvel3092 Месяц назад

      Only if you think that they shouldn’t sell cars abroad.😂

    • @manimalworks7424
      @manimalworks7424 Месяц назад +1

      @@fredericoduvel3092 🤣I was being sarcastic.

  • @timfehlberg9051
    @timfehlberg9051 Месяц назад

    I hope BYD have improved their PHEV engines because they were having heaps of issues with people posting videos of them catching fire.

  • @manwingchi9156
    @manwingchi9156 Месяц назад +4

    Advertising Tesla again. 😂😂😂😂

  • @stevennelson7518
    @stevennelson7518 Месяц назад

    BYD excels at vertical manufacting and battery technology fighting to be the low cost manufacturer. Volume is their priority. Tesla is pushing the technology and software advances to produce the BEST and most profitable car.

  • @california_dreamier
    @california_dreamier Месяц назад

    im dumping tesla and buying toyota, hybrids are the future, EVs are dead, the infrastructure to maintain EVs will cost too much globally, hybrids make more sense

  • @paulratnage2663
    @paulratnage2663 Месяц назад

    Thought that EV’s were the future? Obviously not the future.

  • @georgestreicher252
    @georgestreicher252 Месяц назад

    If we use the suppressed technology developed by Stanely Meyer and Dennis Klien cars could be running on gasified water with water vapor as an exhaust gas. This is by far less polluting than electric cars with all the mining and refining which uses oil and the production of electricity which most time involves carbon-based fuels. Water to gas conversion could be retrofitted to existing vehicles. Jets and other turbine devices could run on gasifies water. Semi-trucks, locomotives, and ships could be built with turbines to run on gasified water. Why does this guy push electric vehicles which few people want when there is a better alternative?

  • @gregallen7045
    @gregallen7045 Месяц назад

    Look at BYD debt pile
    Not good
    Look at Tesla debt
    Almost nil with 30billion in cash

  • @jackden10
    @jackden10 Месяц назад

    Do you think China stopped giving money to BYD? Did China back BYD to take over the Market? China know Tesla coming out with 25K car and Making a 30 percent profit.

    • @larryevans6739
      @larryevans6739 Месяц назад

      If you are capable of basic math, China's subsidies per vehicle are a a small fraction of what's available in the US. If, for example, BYD got just the $45/kWh US Battery Production Tax Credit for the 119 GW of packs they produced in 2023, it would add up to $5.35 Billion. More than 10 times the total subsidies they received. The Billions Tesla received in US regulatory credits alone are multiple times the total subsidies BYD received. And those are only a small part of the total subsidies available in the US.

  • @ALWH1314
    @ALWH1314 Месяц назад

    Tesla makes so much money per car means it’s over priced and lack of competition in North America market.

    • @larryevans6739
      @larryevans6739 Месяц назад

      It also means Tesla gets too much in tax subsidies. Why their net profit was 50% more than EBITA.

  • @ansonkiek6471
    @ansonkiek6471 Месяц назад

    China company is still news in automative industry,I think make low profit for not a good think. They should spend more time doing research fix stability and rip off fancy touch screen or features. Battery optimization still huge gap compared to Tesla