00:00 Intro 02:37 Kyle-NY | Spirits Talk To Me 17:20 Eric-KY | Recovering From Religion Foundation Volunteer Opportunities 22:04 JR-AR | JR-AR | Devised A Mechanism To Visibly Detect Proof Of Spirit World 28:55 Jessica-UT | Questioning The God Belief Is Privileged 35:59 Andrew-ME | Is Matt A Narcissist? 42:10 Dave-FL | God Is Both Timeless & Not Timeless 47:23 Duke-CA | Your Pet Rock Does Not Indeed Love You 51:57 ACA Clips: Matt The Street Preacher Is Back 53:53 Steve-CA | Chronic Infantilization Of Believers By Their Religions 1:07:03 Alvin-NC | Difference Between Atheism & Agnosticism 1:15:13 Jason-SC | God: The Quantum Referee 1:29:04 Jason-(CA) | Atheists & Deists Should Work Together To Become Moral 1:38:29 Outro
Hey, guys. This is Duke. I really appreciate you talking my call. I appreciate the feedback from the hosts. i just read the description, " Next is Duke from CA who recounts an argument they had with a theist regarding possible..." It wasn't actually a theist. it was an atheist...or rather a person who did not believe a god exists. that's all.
When Matt asked Jessica "Haven't you and I spoken about this before?", I remember the previous caller he was referring to. If memory serves me correct, she was from the UK.
Summing up Kyles call explains a lot about his way of thinking… Kyle: “it was a spirit” Matt: “how do you know it was a spirit?” Kyle: “there was no one else in the room…it was a dark figure with red eyes” Matt: “but how do you know that was a spirit? Kyle: “well I don’t know if it was a spirit for sure,” Kyle: “I’ve seen demons” Matt: “and how do you know they were demons” Kyle: “they were evil looking” Matt: “but how did you know they were demons?” Kyle: “well I don’t if they were demons for sure” Kyle: “I heard Jesus’s voice” Matt: “and how do you know it was Jesus’s voice?” Kyle: “I felt it was Jesus’s voice” Matt: “but how did you know the feeling was Jesus?” Kyle: “well I don’t know if it was Jesus’s voice for sure” He seems very convinced of things until questioned. Then admits he doesn’t know.
@Dewyu Nohmi……You do know how much time you are about to waste with this person yes? You look at the moniker he uses? Just sayin. You will get absolutely nowhere, and thats what it wants. Just sayin. But rock on if you wanna.
@Dewyu Nohmi……Told ya! Matt always goin to logical thought processes, and using skeptical thought process before he believes in something without evidence. Plus he only believes in things which are demonstrable!! But he always overlooks the fact that MY personal god is why we are all here!!!!! Raaah!! Jesus!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻. All those other religions are stupid! Anyone that believes in them are stupid!!! Jesus is the way!! Follow me lost children!! ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻……unless yer gay, not white, or trans….we don’t like thems kind…😅😅😂
@Dewyu Nohmi I like how he said “theist trying to prove god”. Trying being the key word. And all they can seem to do is try and try and try. They still have nothing to show for their effort. How embarrassing is that?
@Clyde Barrow .... wow.... he seems to have really aggravated your Cognitive Dissonance to unbearable levels.... and that is exactly why I love him.... your ilk need to be woken up.
@Clyde Barrow "educated people"..... hahahahaha..... it depends what level of education and what quality.... and I am guessing you do not score highly on either criterion.... hahahahaha.
@Clyde Barrow .... yup.... all these points you listed demonstrate irrefragably that your level of education is as I said above.... do you know what the Dunning Kruger Effect is.... I doubt it.... but you have a particularly severe case of it.
Karl, the way i live my life is, everyday,no matter who they are, will return to where you we where before you were born, nothing, just rejoining the unïverse, how lovely is that.
@@svendtang5432 I think Matt is probably the last person who he should speak to lol. He needs some encouragement and of course professional help. The guys clearly suffering from indoctrination and confirmation bias which he isn’t aware of. Matt rationalising things isn’t gonna get someone like him out of his indoctrination.
“This device has all these amazing powers which can prove a spirit world just by answering questions” “What card am I holding up?” “Ummm we’re not playing that game”
@@Nocturnalux You mean the Holy Spirit had 1 in 52 chance to call it right. Not to mention that it's directly part of an omniscient trinity. It if real then would be 1 to 1. It's like asking a stranger "what's your name?" And them retaliate with we're not playing that game. XDXDXD
@@Nocturnalux Yes, and alternatively she could have set up shop knowingly that it's all bogus. It's easy 💸 for those with a gift for gab, and she sounds like knowledgeable about these things and that's exactly how she hooks her clients interests and their wallets.
Laughed my ass off when Dr Ray speculated about Andrews mum having diagnosed him and thats why he's angry. The Venn Diagram of that being funny and it being true may very well be a perfect circle :D
Kyle you have a problem with reality you need to find a therapist you can relate to and become willing to do the work necessary to be better. You may need medications, but you may also need talk therapy. The therapist can only lead you as a guide you have to do all the work.
@@albertomartinez714 Don't check it out. He calls in because he sees a spike in page views from the curious who listen to AExp. If you are curious about Kaballah there are better sources.
I get the feeling that Alvin has his interesting theories pasted up on every wall in his house, connected by a rainbow of different colored yarn. If he gets banned from calling about the Kaballah crap, expect him to call in with proof that Pepe Silvia doesn't exist.
Your new rules are great: 30 seconds and answer the question or you're gone. You make the lunkheads leave quickly, but you are often kind and patient when needed. Yay Matt!
He wasn't very kind and patient with Kyle. Kyle is obviously suffering from religious trauma and other mental illnesses and Matt was being an ass to him.
Andrew is so obsessed with matt. He wakes up in the morning screeching "I hate matt!" He spends his day throwing darts at a poster of matt. Every Sunday he waits by the phone itching for a chance to call in and "get matt". Get a life Andrew.
Looks like the new format is still working pretty well. Unfortunately theists still haven't done their homework prior to calling in, but it's expected at this point.
This is a true story: when I was in Elementary school, I was in the bathroom, alone. As I was using the bathroom, I heard a deep, baritone voice say my name in a way that clueless Christians say God's voice would sound like. I looked around, and no one else was there. I was raised in a fairly devout Methodist family, and, as a naive child, still believed in god. Even being a child who believed in god at the time and having been raised in a Christian household, I STILL didn't think it was god talking to me, I didn't know what it was, but I did not immediately think it was god. Looking at the situation in retrospect, I realized that at the time, I was afraid to be in the bathroom alone because of the whole "bloody Mary" nonsense, and I didn't even want to look in the mirror. Additionally, there was a rumor circulating among the children that a ghost was "haunting" the school. The most likely explanation is that I hallucinated hearing the voice because of my fear of being in the bathroom alone, and my subconscious was playing auditory tricks on me to make me believe there was actually a spirit of some sort in the bathroom. I have been an atheist now for almost 7 years, giving me time to reflect on that incident, and even as a child I didn't think it was god, so why is it that grown adults 4 times older than me can't figure this out rationally like I did as a child?
@@seasonedbeefs A direct quote of hers: "You know, he was a National Socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay fine," she said. "The problem is he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German." So all the awfulness that Hitler did to the German population was a-okay.
I'm kind of conflicted on Kyle because, I want to say that he's a troll but when he started off his conversation saying that he was going through depression and mental issues, I sincerely think this guy Kyle needs help.
Pretty much every theist who calls in to talk about their personal experiences with God comes across as either a troll or needing professional help. That says a lot about the value of "personal testimony."
It's common thing for theists to be so terrified of reality (read death) that they literally go mad. Usually the supress external manifestation of fear by indulging in ritual and make-belief. Kyle is an extreme case.
Jesus did not teach fear.... John 14 **Let not your hearts be troubled**. Believe in God; believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.
@@raysalmon6566 Jesus taught people to not go against one's masters on earth or heaven and to tremble in fear. Ephesians: "Slaves, obey your masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ; not only while being watched, and in order to please them, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart". 1 Peter 2:18 "Servants, you must obey your masters and always show respect to them. Do this, not only to those who are kind and thoughtful, but also to those who are cruel."
To Kyle, the first caller. I hope you find peace in your life. And I especially hope you find out it's you who makes your life difficult and it's you who makes it better. Besides prayer, you could try meditation, hobbies, sport, nature ot thousand other thing to do, to make you feel better. But it's always you.
Alvin is a repeat caller and always calls in to promote his website. And every time he shoot’s himself in the foot. He claims it proves god because it’s improbable to happen naturally. BUT improbable means it’s possible. Reminds me of a caller that had somehow calculated how improbable it was that the Earth and life arose naturally, therefore god. BUT even going by his own figure, and the estimated amount of planets in the universe. There should be (by his calculations) 1000 earth like planets that did arise naturally. And that’s the thing about improbability, it’s not impossible.
For each time Kyle said the word “prayed” I inserted the word “farted” and it made more sense to me. And Andrew might want to buy a DSM and try harder not to be a nozzle.
I’m still not sure if that guy was for real, certainly not educated, certainly not intelligent. And I would cut him some slack, if he would of listened a little... The “waiting for my turn to speak thing” makes it hard to empathise. On the other hand the fart thing is kind of cheap
Jason: Religious "morality" is not morality, at all, it is adhering to a dogma or a code in order to be get rewarded. It is no different than following the law in order to stay out of jail. The only genuine morality is secular: "doing the right thing because it is the right thing (the right thing as determined by your best and honest judgement).
Andrew: Is Matt a narcissist? Dr. Ray: No. Andrew: I think mental health is all subjective anyway. Congrats, Andrew, you hit the rock bottom of pathetic and decided to keep digging down. Your psychiatrist mom must be proud (subjectively.)
@Bigoted Troll "Valid beliefs." Lol. That would be funny even if you could define the word "valid." Your pathetic non-sequitur reasoning for why you think Matt's a narcissist, that'll keep me laughing straight through 'till spring. 🤣
@@tacitblack4732 they can’t define anything they say. In reality they are just sad little gaslighting troll. They have nothing to offer under any of the multiple accounts they use. They do seem to be getting a bit manic though. People have started ignoring their accounts and muting them. They aren’t handling it well.
@Bigoted Troll. Narcissism? You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you thinks it means. Oh, and until you define valid, my point stands.
Kyle, if you're out there, I feel your pain with having illnesses and being angry that prayer isn't working. I was in your position until I eventually came around to being honest with myself about the complete bullshit of Christianity. I was even told to my face by multiple church members that since I wasn't getting better, I wasn't praying hard enough or close enough to God, etc. That was emotional abuse. It took me years to stop trying to make god real. And yes, it is difficult to face death as a possible complete end, but please know that the impermanence of life also frees you up to be completely invested in this life, and every day is special and precious. And hey, when you have a really shit day, you can know that the alternative is nothing, forever. Which tends to make the hard stuff a little easier to weather. Unless life is really brutal, in which case you do honestly have the choice about whether to choose to carry on. It's empowering. And you never have to be enslaved to anyone again.
@@lucianomezzetta4332 what strokes do you mean? Are you referring to this commenter's actually compassionate helpful tact, in contrast to Matt's verbally abusive tactlessness in shaming an honestly vulnerable man for being victimized by destructive superstitions?
Depression is a truly a daily battle. To think of all the wasted time spent praying. Your comment is spot on. We have to get real about our situations in life and not waste our time waiting on god . Even if he is real the bastard can go fuck himself. I know this crudely put but emotionally true for me.
27:00 I was worried for a second that your eyeglasses were going to reflect which playing card you were holding. Luckily, there was no reflection (that I could see) and the charlatan couldn't cheat they're way to a correct answer. I concur with you Matt, that the caller was full of it!
Kyle is a schizophrenic, I am NOT a trained professional. If you actually hear voices, this is likely what you are. They also tend to cling to religion, and are often suicidal in desperation for help, and maybe even THINK that they may harm others when they may not. Often they are bipolar as well, and this requires medication to regulate.
He had those hallucinations right as he woke up. He very specifically said that. It's a fairly common phenomenon where one's dreams will bleed over into reality just as you wake up. I've dealt with that personally a lot with sleep paralysis - although my sleep paralysis hallucinations have always been visual rather than auditory. And sleep paralysis in particular is freaky! You can't move, can't breathe, can't make a sound. So that doesn't necessarily mean Kyle's schizophrenic. Now my brother hears voices all the time, no matter what time of day, and when he's stone cold sober. That's more like schizophrenia.
I don't think Kyle was a hoax. People have all sorts of screwy beliefs. I appreciate Matt repeating the question of asking how Kyle knew, in order to point out of course he didn't and couldn't. That's the important bit. That's how Kyle, and those who believe as he does, can learn. I only wish Matt hadn't called him a liar, since it could have poisoned the conversations and reinforced Kyle's beliefs making him unwilling or unable to change. That's where a more Socratic method of questioning and pointing out where he was wrong or unjustified is helpful.
@@Tovec8 I listened again and sadly came to the same conclusion, he clearly states that he believes in spirits and demons but stopped praying when God didn't heal him. If you knew there was a hell wouldn't you start doing everything in your power to stop you going there?
@@jondkilla I ended up skipping the Kyle call because matt got totally unhinged for little to no reason. Kyle literally spilled his heart out and how does Matt respond? With a full blown somersault of verbal abuse and toxicity. Matt has an exceptionally low tolerance these days and it honestly ruins the AE for me.
I was a severly abused child raised in the church and I prayed EVERY night to please take me away from my parents. NEVER recieved an answer, the abuse got worse & worse and tried to commit suicide for the first time at 9 yo! If there is a God, he's not great or protective! Then I started to educate myself and stopped wasting my time! I'm a much better person than anyone of my former congregation!!
I asked God to give me a sign when I was 5 years old, to say my name, to move this cup, etc. He said nothing back and I've lacked belief ever since. What kind of games is God playing that you have to grovel before him for 3 weeks straight just to get him to say your name? Why are the signs he gives so vague? I was entirely open to the possibility that maybe the cup would move or I would hear an audible voice. If God wanted me to know him he would've answered in an undeniable way. He would've known I'd become an atheist, and according to the view of some relatives that would also mean eternal damnation and hellfire. Just for not believing in some guy who keeps himself entirely hidden. It's an eternal game of hide and seek, with believers looking into every gust of wind and weird thought trying to find him. It's an unwinnable game and if you lose you go to hell, leaving you with no choice but to pretend you found him to avoid eternal damnation.
This is a true story: when I was in Elementary school, I was in the bathroom, alone. As I was using the bathroom, I heard a deep, baritone voice say my name in a way that clueless Christians say God's voice would sound like. I looked around, and no one else was there. I was raised in a fairly devout Methodist family, and, as a naive child, still believed in god. Even being a child who believed in god at the time and having been raised in a Christian household, I STILL didn't think it was god talking to me, I didn't know what it was, but I did not immediately think it was god. Looking at the situation in retrospect, I realized that at the time, I was afraid to be in the bathroom alone because of the whole "bloody Mary" nonsense, and I didn't even want to look in the mirror. Additionally, there was a rumor circulating among the children that a ghost was "haunting" the school. The most likely explanation is that I hallucinated hearing the voice because of my fear of being in the bathroom alone, and my subconscious was playing auditory tricks on me to make me believe there was actually a spirit of some sort in the bathroom. I have been an atheist now for almost 7 years, giving me time to reflect on that incident, and even as a child I didn't think it was god, so why is it that grown adults 4 times older than me can't figure this out rationally like I did as a child?
Just as Kyle, I prayed for 24 days. Finally god answered, funny enough with the voice of my neighbour. In his wisdom he said: Shut the f**k up already we are trying to make love over here.
Why do people think that because the Bible is one of the books that has been purchased the most somehow makes it the most read book? The only reason the bible is the best selling book is because you have 300,000 churches in the US alone that has one every 2ft along church benches, one in every hotel drawer, one on every magazine table in a medical clinic, and several in public libraries, and religious schools. And if it was the most read book in the world, then millions of people wouldn't have any belief In what that book has to say, and would treat it like every other fictional book in the world. I could be wrong about that, but I think that is the case.
Lifeway research, a Christian research firm did a survey on believers and their Bible reading habits and it was pretty sad how much they rant about “knowing’ what’s in it versus the amount of Bible reading they actually did.
@@ajclements4627 I remember when I was going to church with my mom over 20 yrs ago. The preacher always preached about the "Good" things and the torment and torture you will endure if you don't believe. Then he would run up and down the isles like he had the holy spirit in him and was going around throwing blessings at everyone. It's really insane imo.
@@MetallicAAlabamA Exactly. They preach the good parts, yet ignore the rest and if you were to ask questions, they’d just tell you to ‘pray about it’, or give that ‘God works in mysterious ways, we can’t question it’ bullshite.
@@ajclements4627 I walked out of the church we attended and sat in the car waiting on my mom to come out. She asked me "Why did you walk out?" And I calmly responded "I understand you have been raised to believe this stuff and really want there to be a god. But there is nothing there to point to, define, nor give me a sign that is a good, or even somewhat decent of a reason to believe in a god. And there is way, way, way too much truth against something that is full of lies and deceit for me to believe. Plus, you have been praying and asking this god to help us out financially. And what has this god done for us? If you say that we have to change the way we are, then that is another check mark for not believing. Because you have bent over backwards for this deity."
JR: I searched online as you suggested for 'vibrational meter' and got a return from a major UK electronics retailer, a Fluke 805 Vibration Meter (Acceleration, Displacement, Velocity) selling for £1663. That's bit too much money to determine which of 17 spirit levels I'm on. Sorry. I'll just have to assume I'm on the spirit level that's already in my toolbox.
@@IllustriousCrocoduck Look them up, sheer lunacy and they have several anime movies. Lured some seiyuu and talent to work for them without their even knowing it was a cult.
You're SO rational.....lol.... Pity too many callers don't know how use their neurons to enter the world of rationality and eventually learn how to enjoy science.....
Why are so many people so obsessed with having a "meaning for life". Why does there have to be a reason that we are here other then we just are? Even if you believe that there is a god, how do you know what reason he created us? We could be some science experience that is forgotten in the back of his closet. How does having a "reason" change your life at all? It doesn't.
Plus, the reasons given from religion don't seem satisfying. "To glorify and praise god" "To follow God's plan" "To serve God's purpose". These do not seem satisfying. My parents literally made me and helped shape who I am more than a god did. Does that mean I should therefore follow their intent in all things to have a satisfying purpose? Ironically, it's not even impossible to think up a god different from the Abrahamic god that does offer a more satisfying purpose than "Follow my will and praise me, and you'll be rewarded with eternal servitude at my feet in heaven, and avoid eternal torment". Imagine a god who had given the goal of maximizing human well-being. Or overseeing the flourishing of our world. Or the pursuit of knowledge. Or advancing humanity till like any child, we reach the level of our creator. The meaning of life religion offers adds very little. It does not fall under the driving forces that make us happiest, at all. Sure, it may offer some freedom of doubts for people burdened with them. But there are so many more noble, good and enjoyable goals with actual impact on yourself, others and the world you could put yourself towards. We may serve no cause for the cosmos. But there are many causes we can serve for humanity.
Exactly Ann G and Lorecrafty! Imagine a scenario where a certain Caveman decides to sit in his Cave for 23 days trying to figure out what the angry sky father is mad about now and what it wants him to do about it, or he sits and tries to figure out what the meaning of life could possibly be, meanwhile all the other Omnivores and the Carnivores around him have figured it out and they are happily eating up all of his breakfasts, lunches and dinners and thinking, “ Damn, I’m having more luck than usual at putting on some fat. I’m feeling so good; I feel like playing!” There was certainly very heavy selection against that kind of detrimental religiosity/ mental illness back then, especially in our pre farming history. It was only once humans could grow crops and live in cooperative colonies and villages, that the Conmen could live off of spoils of the hard work of Religotards. I always laugh when I see large groups of Monks playing around, doing Sand Art and whatever else tickles their lazy a** fancy and all the clueless around them, thinking there is something special about it all. I don’t admire these humans that grift off of others, but it certainly seems to be working for them.
But our lives would have no meaning without the metaphorical substrate! Haven't you read Crime and Punishment? (kidding, kidding--I can't even reproduce his word salad)
im a very angry man since iv become an Atheist, Religious people annoy me, and in "conversations"with friends i almost become a bulley, they stole 40 years of my life.
Jessica from UT is an example of toxic critical theory, a viewpoint that Matt and parts of the ACA placate to. The entire conversation of privilege/power is owned by people who in other topics would be considered irrational because of bad epistemology.
She may have got the idea of ‘privilege’ from critical theory, but she badly misapplied it, as Matt explained. However, in no way does her mistake undermine critical theory itself. In the same way that when theists constantly call in with a botched understanding of entropy, in no way does their mistake undermine the physics of thermodynamics.
@@DeusExMamiya I agree, this is my point completely. She isn’t alone in the toxic misapplication of it sadly, and I’ve seen times where there is no pushback. My assumption is when it involves theism/atheism, it is less polarized and easier to pushback against. But the left needs to be better about pushing back against the misapplication of “theories” like critical theory, even when the misapplication is helping narratives we agree with.
I can’t seem to find the member join page please someone let me know ( I want to get off slow chat, and support the show) in the description the link posted just keeps leading me back to channel page it’s not showing me an option to join channel as a member idk I’m on my phone (iPhone) maybe that’s why ?
I've been watching AE episodes for 12 years.. Recently its getting a bit hard to listen to Matt.. Feels like he's tired of doing this. I say that because he speaks like someone who yes has been doing this for 17 years but its starting to sound like there's an animosity from him towards the caller if heaven forbid THEY havent been doing this for 17 years, or havent seen some video he made on a particular subject the previous week. Like there's almost no tolerance from him for someone who isnt a professional debater and might get something just slightly wrong
Kyle, well i used to ""pray" a lot and eventually realised I was talking to myself. What you saw was irrefurtably teh Spirt of Bhudda. So how about I tell you - Then I prayed to Buddha and now all is well. !! Clearly it worked therefore Bhudia worked and is real, which by default means Christianity is false. Proved...!!!
@@paddlefar9175 I don't live in a village, I live in a city. And I didn't say everyone thinks I'm better than them. I said even IF everyone thinks I'm better than them. I can't read minds, so I don't know what everyone thinks. That's the reason I said If. You assume too much. You should never assume because you make an ass of u, and me.
JR sounds like my mum. Impossible to have a normal conversation with her, without her trying to use her beliefs to manipulate people into what she wants subconsciously presented as if it's some sort of spiritual face/prophecy so you can't dispute it. Her most common reply is "I can't help what I do".
@@qwadratix That is a good point. Don't know how familiar folks are with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, but I would rather be Vogons (aliens who've functionally shut down evolution with surgery, etc) physiologically than culturally.
One problem with this is the more we explore reality, the more we discover it's stranger than we could have imagined. Try explaining quantum mechanics to someone who has no concept of it, you'll probably sound like a lunatic. This in no way justifies woo, I'm just saying ridiculousness alone isn't a good way to go about managing claims.
@@uninspired3583 TBH, it's stranger than the human mind is capable of grasping. I don't know of a single theoretical physicist that claims to even begin to understand his subject now, outside of the mathematics used to describe it. The math is at least within reach, but an understanding of what the math actually means is a huge problem. Our brains evolved to deal with a universe that's filtered to us through five crude senses and it's conditioned us to an intuitive grasp of the world only so that we can survive, not so that we can understand how it all works. Such things as relativity and QM are outside of what evolution has deemed necessary.
Oh man she had a whole buffet of BS set up, though. She might as well have recited the rules of quidditch, and it makes me sad that for many people, that's probably enough to convince them to give her money.
Regarding morality. If you argue for objective morality the question I have is this: What is the objective? For you to have what you consider to be objective morality you need an objective. Any objective you choose is an objective you’ve chosen and is therefore subjective.
I'm quite happy it went on exactly as long as it did. I don't care for the calls where the caller is immediately shut down. He just allowed her to shoot herself in the foot. (Paraphrased) JR: I'm a super uber master at communing with the spirit. Matt: What card am I holding up? JR: The spirit doesn't want to. Matt: Well, I guess the spirit doesn't want you to be on the show then. 'bye.
Kyle didn't lie... He thought he knew what he saw. To him, it was a spirit. Ask any Christian if Yahweh exists, and they will say yes. That's not a lie. It's simply likely wrong, and not based on good evidence. The same goes for just about any religion and god out there. As for Kyle hearing audible voices when he wakes up, I'd ask him if he's ever woken up to the sound of a gunshot, barking dog, or anything else that wasn't there. If so, it's not schizophrenia. It's the same thing I have, which is basically waking hallucinations. They happen as you drift off to sleep, and as you're coming out of REM. They happen very rarely, which would account for why it seemed so important. They are also entirely real sounding. I remember when I was younger, I'd hear my mother calling me from downstairs, and yell out that I was on my way down, only to realize it was like 3am, and she was fast asleep along with the rest of the world. But, it only ever happens while drifting in or out of sleep. As for Facetime... It's just a glitch, mate. I took a photo of a "demon" once. Thing looked real as fuck. It was my cigarette smoke, along with candle smoke rising up, but half invisible to the naked eye. It looked pretty damned visible in the photo. I stuck it through a yellow filter to cancel out the shadows, and it looked like a floating humanoid body with horns, and a pitchfork. Coolest photo I've ever taken. lol
The lie he was called out for, wasn't that he said it was a spirit. It was that he said he "knew" it was a spirit. Had he said he "thought" it was, or he "believed" it was, that wouldn't have been a lie. But he said he "knew" it was a spirit, while being fully aware he *didn't* know for certain. Personally I feel "lie" was a strong word, but I agree with Matt that people need to be called out for saying they "know" things are true, when those things can't be fully established as fact.
"Genesis adds up to pi." The part I have to laugh at is that many years ago, some guy posted a similar thing where in he had calculated out all this mystical numbers nonsense, and a week later someone did it with the first chapters of a couple of mainstream books like The Hobbit and got more or less the same results...
When Kyle said “ when I was a kid on FaceTime….” My 39 year old self felt old as hell lol. And that’s coming from an atheist who doesn’t even believe in hell lol 😂
Kyle feels like the fakest caller ever. The first caller. He's rattling off all these things why Christians think people turn Atheist and is just trying to get Matt to confirm any of those reasons as legit reasons. God not answering prayers, being angry at god, or placing your faith in science aren't what any believer did to become an Atheist. If you think god, Jesus, demons and spirits are real, keep praying.
OK, as a PhD mathematician, I am commenting about the bull that Alvin had about some calculation leading close to the number pi. So what? We can pick any number and retroactively go back and make up some calculation that will approximate said number. This sort of nonsense is on a par with the stupidity of numerology generally, or astrology, or ....
00:00 Intro
02:37 Kyle-NY | Spirits Talk To Me
17:20 Eric-KY | Recovering From Religion Foundation Volunteer Opportunities
22:04 JR-AR | JR-AR | Devised A Mechanism To Visibly Detect Proof Of Spirit World
28:55 Jessica-UT | Questioning The God Belief Is Privileged
35:59 Andrew-ME | Is Matt A Narcissist?
42:10 Dave-FL | God Is Both Timeless & Not Timeless
47:23 Duke-CA | Your Pet Rock Does Not Indeed Love You
51:57 ACA Clips: Matt The Street Preacher Is Back
53:53 Steve-CA | Chronic Infantilization Of Believers By Their Religions
1:07:03 Alvin-NC | Difference Between Atheism & Agnosticism
1:15:13 Jason-SC | God: The Quantum Referee
1:29:04 Jason-(CA) | Atheists & Deists Should Work Together To Become Moral
1:38:29 Outro
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Hey, guys. This is Duke. I really appreciate you talking my call. I appreciate the feedback from the hosts. i just read the description, "
Next is Duke from CA who recounts an argument they had with a theist regarding possible..."
It wasn't actually a theist. it was an atheist...or rather a person who did not believe a god exists.
that's all.
@@thedukeistheman Updated our show notes doc to reflect the change. The youtube version should be updated soon. Thanks for the clarification :)
Thank you time stamp person/s 😍
When Matt asked Jessica "Haven't you and I spoken about this before?", I remember the previous caller he was referring to. If memory serves me correct, she was from the UK.
Prayer is like a rocking chair - it will give you something to do, but it won't get you anywhere.
Good point.
As someone who followed Christian metal through my teens, can confirm prayer does in fact not rock.
Exactly why they pray. So they can say they did something without doing something that matters
@@uninspired3583 hey there are some decent Christian metal bands, Stryper for one
It can also be a way of self-soothing, much like a rocking chair.
Thanks to Matt D., and the rest of the hosts. You've helped my critical thinking skills greatly improve.
Summing up Kyles call explains a lot about his way of thinking…
Kyle: “it was a spirit”
Matt: “how do you know it was a spirit?”
Kyle: “there was no one else in the room…it was a dark figure with red eyes”
Matt: “but how do you know that was a spirit?
Kyle: “well I don’t know if it was a spirit for sure,”
Kyle: “I’ve seen demons”
Matt: “and how do you know they were demons”
Kyle: “they were evil looking”
Matt: “but how did you know they were demons?”
Kyle: “well I don’t if they were demons for sure”
Kyle: “I heard Jesus’s voice”
Matt: “and how do you know it was Jesus’s voice?”
Kyle: “I felt it was Jesus’s voice”
Matt: “but how did you know the feeling was Jesus?”
Kyle: “well I don’t know if it was Jesus’s voice for sure”
He seems very convinced of things until questioned. Then admits he doesn’t know.
A fine example of the slightest scrutiny put on religious beliefs and it all collapses in a rumble of reason and logic. ! 😄😄
Poor Kyle.
He didn't seem genuine to me.
@shmaples. He seems like a genuine nutcase to me.
He’s probably a nice guy but has a few mental hang ups that he should get addressed.
This is excellent. Matt is just not taking their crap any more. Brilliant.
Matt not taking their crap “anymore”?? Because he has so fervently in the past?? 😅
@Dewyu Nohmi……You do know how much time you are about to waste with this person yes? You look at the moniker he uses? Just sayin. You will get absolutely nowhere, and thats what it wants. Just sayin. But rock on if you wanna.
@Dewyu Nohmi……Told ya! Matt always goin to logical thought processes, and using skeptical thought process before he believes in something without evidence. Plus he only believes in things which are demonstrable!! But he always overlooks the fact that MY personal god is why we are all here!!!!! Raaah!! Jesus!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻. All those other religions are stupid! Anyone that believes in them are stupid!!! Jesus is the way!! Follow me lost children!! ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻……unless yer gay, not white, or trans….we don’t like thems kind…😅😅😂
@trans Matt lives in your head, rent-free.
@Dewyu Nohmi I like how he said “theist trying to prove god”. Trying being the key word. And all they can seem to do is try and try and try. They still have nothing to show for their effort. How embarrassing is that?
I love Matt Dillahunty.... we need more people like him in this world...
@Clyde Barrow what is he dishonest about?what do you think he is lying about?
@Clyde Barrow .... wow.... he seems to have really aggravated your Cognitive Dissonance to unbearable levels.... and that is exactly why I love him.... your ilk need to be woken up.
@Clyde Barrow "educated people"..... hahahahaha..... it depends what level of education and what quality.... and I am guessing you do not score highly on either criterion.... hahahahaha.
@Clyde Barrow .... yup.... all these points you listed demonstrate irrefragably that your level of education is as I said above.... do you know what the Dunning Kruger Effect is.... I doubt it.... but you have a particularly severe case of it.
@Clyde Barrow you are very confused about Matts positions. I suggest you improve your listening skills.
After he told Kyle, "oh sure, you just keep talking," the longer he rambled the funnier it got😂
Karl, the way i live my life is, everyday,no matter who they are, will return to where you we where before you were born, nothing, just rejoining the unïverse, how lovely is that.
Please be kind i do Think Kyle is not really that well. And I’m not being funny here. He’s really scared of dying and a lot of other things.
@@svendtang5432 I think Matt is probably the last person who he should speak to lol. He needs some encouragement and of course professional help. The guys clearly suffering from indoctrination and confirmation bias which he isn’t aware of. Matt rationalising things isn’t gonna get someone like him out of his indoctrination.
L p0rn
Kyle needed to put down the bong man.
“This device has all these amazing powers which can prove a spirit world just by answering questions”
“What card am I holding up?”
“Ummm we’re not playing that game”
And she had 1 in 52 chances of getting it right!
@@Nocturnalux
You mean the Holy Spirit had 1 in 52 chance to call it right. Not to mention that it's directly part of an omniscient trinity. It if real then would be 1 to 1.
It's like asking a stranger "what's your name?" And them retaliate with we're not playing that game. XDXDXD
@@Nocturnalux Knowing Matt, it was probably a joker
@@guytheincognito4186 That she wouldn't even try lets me know she is not herself entirely sure about this "Holy Spirit" crap.
@@Nocturnalux
Yes, and alternatively she could have set up shop knowingly that it's all bogus. It's easy 💸 for those with a gift for gab, and she sounds like knowledgeable about these things and that's exactly how she hooks her clients interests and their wallets.
Laughed my ass off when Dr Ray speculated about Andrews mum having diagnosed him and thats why he's angry.
The Venn Diagram of that being funny and it being true may very well be a perfect circle :D
I know right! That joke kinda went undetected but it must have a degree of truth in it :)
XD The hilarity of a guy who has NO EXPERTISE refusing to acknowledge that the CONSENSUS OF STUDIED PERSONS may be more accurate than his.
JR had such strong vibrational energy my BS meter was going off the charts.
😂 off the charts
@@xuniversalx635 Theists never stop being entertaining in a bizarre, disturbing way.
Kyle you have a problem with reality you need to find a therapist you can relate to and become willing to do the work necessary to be better. You may need medications, but you may also need talk therapy. The therapist can only lead you as a guide you have to do all the work.
Alvin has called multiple times to promote his Kaballah website. Screeners should probably flag for him.
He's the biblical pattern bloke yeah?
@@albertomartinez714 Don't check it out. He calls in because he sees a spike in page views from the curious who listen to AExp. If you are curious about Kaballah there are better sources.
I get the feeling that Alvin has his interesting theories pasted up on every wall in his house, connected by a rainbow of different colored yarn. If he gets banned from calling about the Kaballah crap, expect him to call in with proof that Pepe Silvia doesn't exist.
Your new rules are great: 30 seconds and answer the question or you're gone. You make the lunkheads leave quickly, but you are often kind and patient when needed. Yay Matt!
I'm really liking the new format yeah
I am beginning to wonder why theists bother to call the show, though.
He wasn't very kind and patient with Kyle. Kyle is obviously suffering from religious trauma and other mental illnesses and Matt was being an ass to him.
Andrew is so obsessed with matt. He wakes up in the morning screeching "I hate matt!"
He spends his day throwing darts at a poster of matt.
Every Sunday he waits by the phone itching for a chance to call in and "get matt". Get a life Andrew.
Quite a lot of people in the threads obsess over Matt, it’s getting creepy.
What if Matt actually does start an Onlyfans? He'd probably be funded pretty well from just a few people lol
@@IllustriousCrocoduck I'd be genuinely tempted
Looks like the new format is still working pretty well. Unfortunately theists still haven't done their homework prior to calling in, but it's expected at this point.
I have to say. I absolutely love that the “atheist inner circle” has made it on the merch. That was one of my most favorite lunatic clips.
Gonna be a great listen on my ride home from work!
These arguments from theists are getting more ludicrous from week-to-week....keep them coming guys! Very entertaining 😁
If 'arguments' are what you call the mindless drivel coming out of their mouths
“Well what else could it have been?” is really the best evidence your all-powerful god could provide you with?
Kyle NY really wants to live forever... He is the personification of why people made up religions: to hope to live forever :-|
Yeah and I don't think they really know what they are asking for in that case.
Eternity seem's like hell no matter where you go.
I can't imagine why, the guy sounds miserable.
This is a true story: when I was in Elementary school, I was in the bathroom, alone. As I was using the bathroom, I heard a deep, baritone voice say my name in a way that clueless Christians say God's voice would sound like. I looked around, and no one else was there. I was raised in a fairly devout Methodist family, and, as a naive child, still believed in god. Even being a child who believed in god at the time and having been raised in a Christian household, I STILL didn't think it was god talking to me, I didn't know what it was, but I did not immediately think it was god. Looking at the situation in retrospect, I realized that at the time, I was afraid to be in the bathroom alone because of the whole "bloody Mary" nonsense, and I didn't even want to look in the mirror. Additionally, there was a rumor circulating among the children that a ghost was "haunting" the school. The most likely explanation is that I hallucinated hearing the voice because of my fear of being in the bathroom alone, and my subconscious was playing auditory tricks on me to make me believe there was actually a spirit of some sort in the bathroom. I have been an atheist now for almost 7 years, giving me time to reflect on that incident, and even as a child I didn't think it was god, so why is it that grown adults 4 times older than me can't figure this out rationally like I did as a child?
Andrew is the type of person who is "skeptical" of the experts but wholeheartedly trusts Facebook memes and Candace Owens tweets.
Nothing wrong with CO.
Reality check
@@seasonedbeefs May want to catch up on her. She came out as a moon-landing denier last week...
@@TheTwenty42 LMAO, oh god, really? I am not even surprised, almost impressed.
@@seasonedbeefs A direct quote of hers: "You know, he was a National Socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay fine," she said. "The problem is he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German."
So all the awfulness that Hitler did to the German population was a-okay.
@@seasonedbeefs "nothing wrong with Candace Owens" might be the most laughable statement I've heard all day
I'm kind of conflicted on Kyle because, I want to say that he's a troll but when he started off his conversation saying that he was going through depression and mental issues, I sincerely think this guy Kyle needs help.
His depression wouldn't be helped by the internal conflict he's having due to his religious beliefs, he's trapped in a cycle of self destruction.
Pretty much every theist who calls in to talk about their personal experiences with God comes across as either a troll or needing professional help. That says a lot about the value of "personal testimony."
@Bigoted Troll Nah. But your comments make me wonder if you can count past ten without removing your shoes and socks.
Matt: How do you know it was a 'spirit'?
Kyle: Well, adababa, daradude. You know... Jakanaka babalú. And frufrugggrrr. There.
Lmao!
It's common thing for theists to be so terrified of reality (read death) that they literally go mad. Usually the supress external manifestation of fear by indulging in ritual and make-belief. Kyle is an extreme case.
Jesus did not teach fear....
John 14 **Let not your hearts be troubled**.
Believe in God; believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.
4 And you know the way to where I am going.
@@raysalmon6566 Bible verses? Really? Whet are you hoping to accomplish here?
@@raysalmon6566
Jesus taught people to not go against one's masters on earth or heaven and to tremble in fear.
Ephesians: "Slaves, obey your masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ; not only while being watched, and in order to please them, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart".
1 Peter 2:18 "Servants, you must obey your masters and always show respect to them. Do this, not only to those who are kind and thoughtful, but also to those who are cruel."
To Kyle, the first caller. I hope you find peace in your life. And I especially hope you find out it's you who makes your life difficult and it's you who makes it better. Besides prayer, you could try meditation, hobbies, sport, nature ot thousand other thing to do, to make you feel better. But it's always you.
Alvin is a repeat caller and always calls in to promote his website. And every time he shoot’s himself in the foot. He claims it proves god because it’s improbable to happen naturally. BUT improbable means it’s possible.
Reminds me of a caller that had somehow calculated how improbable it was that the Earth and life arose naturally, therefore god. BUT even going by his own figure, and the estimated amount of planets in the universe. There should be (by his calculations) 1000 earth like planets that did arise naturally.
And that’s the thing about improbability, it’s not impossible.
For each time Kyle said the word “prayed” I inserted the word “farted” and it made more sense to me. And Andrew might want to buy a DSM and try harder not to be a nozzle.
let's all fart for health and prosperity! fart in the bath, the elevator or the subway.
"Sending thoughts and farts" might accomplish something. Probably nothing good, but that way people might actually realize it.
Are you supposed to face a certain direction when you fart?
@@nameforcomments4092 Fart in the direction of someone's nose to get maximum result.
Of course a gas mask negates the effect 😆🤣.
I’m still not sure if that guy was for real, certainly not educated, certainly not intelligent. And I would cut him some slack, if he would of listened a little... The “waiting for my turn to speak thing” makes it hard to empathise. On the other hand the fart thing is kind of cheap
Kyle Kyle Kyle....my poor sweet summer child...
Jason: Religious "morality" is not morality, at all, it is adhering to a dogma or a code in order to be get rewarded. It is no different than following the law in order to stay out of jail. The only genuine morality is secular: "doing the right thing because it is the right thing (the right thing as determined by your best and honest judgement).
Seriously I am just starting Darrel's book "God Virus" intro + 5 pages. Great start and has me thinking already.
Kyle - Every party ends; does that mean you don't bother going to any?
I went to Jerusalem to pray the way the locals did. It was like talking to a wall,
How do we know who's right and who's wrong?
You do it by listening to Shannon!!
Lol, best line of today's show, lol
A lie giving you false strength and then being taken away is not the fault of someone else who never accepted the lie to begin with.
When you tell the emperor "no, dude, your junk is hanging out", you are not the one he should be pissed at.
Andrew: Is Matt a narcissist? Dr. Ray: No. Andrew: I think mental health is all subjective anyway. Congrats, Andrew, you hit the rock bottom of pathetic and decided to keep digging down. Your psychiatrist mom must be proud (subjectively.)
@Trans Rights Just wanted to fix your moniker there. You're welcome.
@Trans is a mental illness. How to say that you're a brainless, incoherent babbler without saying that you're a brainless, incoherent babbler:
@Bigoted Troll "Valid beliefs." Lol. That would be funny even if you could define the word "valid." Your pathetic non-sequitur reasoning for why you think Matt's a narcissist, that'll keep me laughing straight through 'till spring. 🤣
@@tacitblack4732 they can’t define anything they say. In reality they are just sad little gaslighting troll. They have nothing to offer under any of the multiple accounts they use. They do seem to be getting a bit manic though. People have started ignoring their accounts and muting them. They aren’t handling it well.
@Bigoted Troll. Narcissism? You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you thinks it means. Oh, and until you define valid, my point stands.
Another fantastic show debunking the same old and tired theist arguments and exposing woo and chance claims for the frauds that they are.
Kyle, if you're out there, I feel your pain with having illnesses and being angry that prayer isn't working. I was in your position until I eventually came around to being honest with myself about the complete bullshit of Christianity. I was even told to my face by multiple church members that since I wasn't getting better, I wasn't praying hard enough or close enough to God, etc. That was emotional abuse. It took me years to stop trying to make god real. And yes, it is difficult to face death as a possible complete end, but please know that the impermanence of life also frees you up to be completely invested in this life, and every day is special and precious. And hey, when you have a really shit day, you can know that the alternative is nothing, forever. Which tends to make the hard stuff a little easier to weather. Unless life is really brutal, in which case you do honestly have the choice about whether to choose to carry on. It's empowering. And you never have to be enslaved to anyone again.
you got this stroke, others have different strokes.
@@lucianomezzetta4332 what strokes do you mean?
Are you referring to this commenter's actually compassionate helpful tact, in contrast to Matt's verbally abusive tactlessness in shaming an honestly vulnerable man for being victimized by destructive superstitions?
@@anthonypc1 Appreciate that, Anthony PC. I do think through my posts very carefully.
Depression is a truly a daily battle. To think of all the wasted time spent praying. Your comment is spot on. We have to get real about our situations in life and not waste our time waiting on god . Even if he is real the bastard can go fuck himself. I know this crudely put but emotionally true for me.
JR: "Do you have a pendulum?"
Me: "Oh, for fucks sake."
27:00
I was worried for a second that your eyeglasses were going to reflect which playing card you were holding. Luckily, there was no reflection (that I could see) and the charlatan couldn't cheat they're way to a correct answer. I concur with you Matt, that the caller was full of it!
Faith, and prayer are both as useless as a screen door on a submarine. I have no use whatsoever for either one.
Kyle is a schizophrenic, I am NOT a trained professional. If you actually hear voices, this is likely what you are. They also tend to cling to religion, and are often suicidal in desperation for help, and maybe even THINK that they may harm others when they may not. Often they are bipolar as well, and this requires medication to regulate.
He had those hallucinations right as he woke up. He very specifically said that. It's a fairly common phenomenon where one's dreams will bleed over into reality just as you wake up. I've dealt with that personally a lot with sleep paralysis - although my sleep paralysis hallucinations have always been visual rather than auditory. And sleep paralysis in particular is freaky! You can't move, can't breathe, can't make a sound.
So that doesn't necessarily mean Kyle's schizophrenic. Now my brother hears voices all the time, no matter what time of day, and when he's stone cold sober. That's more like schizophrenia.
That’s my sister basically.
Shannon saying no, I don't need homework, was priceless to me.
Man, this episode was a banger. I laughted so many times. Espacially at the end of JRs call.
I sometimes get disappointed with Matt for dropping calls early, today I'm disappointed for not dropping Kyle-NY for obviously being a hoax.
I don't think Kyle was a hoax. People have all sorts of screwy beliefs. I appreciate Matt repeating the question of asking how Kyle knew, in order to point out of course he didn't and couldn't. That's the important bit. That's how Kyle, and those who believe as he does, can learn. I only wish Matt hadn't called him a liar, since it could have poisoned the conversations and reinforced Kyle's beliefs making him unwilling or unable to change. That's where a more Socratic method of questioning and pointing out where he was wrong or unjustified is helpful.
@@Tovec8 I listened again and sadly came to the same conclusion, he clearly states that he believes in spirits and demons but stopped praying when God didn't heal him. If you knew there was a hell wouldn't you start doing everything in your power to stop you going there?
@@jondkilla It is a long road out of faith, assuming one can get out of course. I just feel bad for him.
@@Tovec8 I'll agree with that, to be fair the crap I use to believe still makes me wince.
@@jondkilla I ended up skipping the Kyle call because matt got totally unhinged for little to no reason. Kyle literally spilled his heart out and how does Matt respond? With a full blown somersault of verbal abuse and toxicity. Matt has an exceptionally low tolerance these days and it honestly ruins the AE for me.
Perhaps people wouldn't need to 'pray for healing' if America had a Health Service not a Health Business.
And if prayer worked, they wouldn't need a healthcare system at all.
I was a severly abused child raised in the church and I prayed EVERY night to please take me away from my parents. NEVER recieved an answer, the abuse got worse & worse and tried to commit suicide for the first time at 9 yo! If there is a God, he's not great or protective! Then I started to educate myself and stopped wasting my time! I'm a much better person than anyone of my former congregation!!
I'm grateful that Matt shuts down Dave on his thoughts about the Kalam.
Matt got destroyed
I asked God to give me a sign when I was 5 years old, to say my name, to move this cup, etc.
He said nothing back and I've lacked belief ever since. What kind of games is God playing that you have to grovel before him for 3 weeks straight just to get him to say your name?
Why are the signs he gives so vague? I was entirely open to the possibility that maybe the cup would move or I would hear an audible voice. If God wanted me to know him he would've answered in an undeniable way. He would've known I'd become an atheist, and according to the view of some relatives that would also mean eternal damnation and hellfire. Just for not believing in some guy who keeps himself entirely hidden.
It's an eternal game of hide and seek, with believers looking into every gust of wind and weird thought trying to find him. It's an unwinnable game and if you lose you go to hell, leaving you with no choice but to pretend you found him to avoid eternal damnation.
Kyle:
A fine example of the slightest scrutiny put on religious beliefs and it all collapses in a rumble of reason and logic. ! 😄😄
Definition of cognitive dissonance.
@@illuminatiwilldie9290 He just doesn't want to live in a world where he is not immortal. There are plenty of people like Kyle.
@@paulsoderling6269 I don't want my bank account to be less than a billion dollars either , so what. 😆
@@illuminatiwilldie9290 Yes, and I don't want to live in a world where I am not married to Margot Robbie... 😆
This is a true story: when I was in Elementary school, I was in the bathroom, alone. As I was using the bathroom, I heard a deep, baritone voice say my name in a way that clueless Christians say God's voice would sound like. I looked around, and no one else was there. I was raised in a fairly devout Methodist family, and, as a naive child, still believed in god. Even being a child who believed in god at the time and having been raised in a Christian household, I STILL didn't think it was god talking to me, I didn't know what it was, but I did not immediately think it was god. Looking at the situation in retrospect, I realized that at the time, I was afraid to be in the bathroom alone because of the whole "bloody Mary" nonsense, and I didn't even want to look in the mirror. Additionally, there was a rumor circulating among the children that a ghost was "haunting" the school. The most likely explanation is that I hallucinated hearing the voice because of my fear of being in the bathroom alone, and my subconscious was playing auditory tricks on me to make me believe there was actually a spirit of some sort in the bathroom. I have been an atheist now for almost 7 years, giving me time to reflect on that incident, and even as a child I didn't think it was god, so why is it that grown adults 4 times older than me can't figure this out rationally like I did as a child?
Kyle: "I prayed for twenty-three days and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"
"...and I had to buy it myself."
@@greyeyed123 Hahaha!
Even the dumbest of the dumb should be able to see the ridiculousness of religion. There is no excuse, yet it continues.
Just as Kyle, I prayed for 24 days. Finally god answered, funny enough with the voice of my neighbour. In his wisdom he said:
Shut the f**k up already we are trying to make love over here.
"God, I love being sacrilegious"
And then the next neighbour over says "do it again but in a sexy voice...it's for my onlyfans group" :P
"When, all of a sudden, 10 days later..."
i asked a local priest, and apparently shouting "Oh God" in bed dosn't actuslly ciunt as praying.
loved Shannon protecting her brain in hearing the name "Peterson". And you never, EVER mess with Shannon, 'cause she'll rip you a new one.
The test with JR was spot on.... We're not going to play that game... chicken ,chicken, chicken......
Why do people think that because the Bible is one of the books that has been purchased the most somehow makes it the most read book? The only reason the bible is the best selling book is because you have 300,000 churches in the US alone that has one every 2ft along church benches, one in every hotel drawer, one on every magazine table in a medical clinic, and several in public libraries, and religious schools. And if it was the most read book in the world, then millions of people wouldn't have any belief In what that book has to say, and would treat it like every other fictional book in the world. I could be wrong about that, but I think that is the case.
Good point. the vast majority of people who own Bibles have never read it.
Lifeway research, a Christian research firm did a survey on believers and their Bible reading habits and it was pretty sad how much they rant about “knowing’ what’s in it versus the amount of Bible reading they actually did.
@@ajclements4627 I remember when I was going to church with my mom over 20 yrs ago. The preacher always preached about the "Good" things and the torment and torture you will endure if you don't believe. Then he would run up and down the isles like he had the holy spirit in him and was going around throwing blessings at everyone. It's really insane imo.
@@MetallicAAlabamA Exactly. They preach the good parts, yet ignore the rest and if you were to ask questions, they’d just tell you to ‘pray about it’, or give that ‘God works in mysterious ways, we can’t question it’ bullshite.
@@ajclements4627 I walked out of the church we attended and sat in the car waiting on my mom to come out. She asked me "Why did you walk out?" And I calmly responded "I understand you have been raised to believe this stuff and really want there to be a god. But there is nothing there to point to, define, nor give me a sign that is a good, or even somewhat decent of a reason to believe in a god. And there is way, way, way too much truth against something that is full of lies and deceit for me to believe. Plus, you have been praying and asking this god to help us out financially. And what has this god done for us? If you say that we have to change the way we are, then that is another check mark for not believing. Because you have bent over backwards for this deity."
“Kyyylllle, this is the Jeebers talking…..”
JR: I searched online as you suggested for 'vibrational meter' and got a return from a major UK electronics retailer, a Fluke 805 Vibration Meter (Acceleration, Displacement, Velocity) selling for £1663. That's bit too much money to determine which of 17 spirit levels I'm on. Sorry. I'll just have to assume I'm on the spirit level that's already in my toolbox.
I feel like she got all of that from some obscure anime loosely based off scientology
@@IllustriousCrocoduck You mean the Happy Science cult?
@@Nocturnalux hahaha well that's a new one
@@IllustriousCrocoduck Look them up, sheer lunacy and they have several anime movies. Lured some seiyuu and talent to work for them without their even knowing it was a cult.
@@Nocturnalux oh haha i thought you were just calling the scientologists that
Not watched for a while now , great to see and hear Matt again
The lesson of the day is always have a back up psychologist in case the first one gets lost.
Or just Airtag your shrink.
Does Kyle realize he called the atheist experience? Because it seems like he thinks he called in a xtian show asking for reasons to keep believing
What happened to the 30 seconds rule that was introduced a week earlier? It would have been helpful with Kyle.
There is a higher power, it's called the scientific method.
You're SO rational.....lol.... Pity too many callers don't know how use their neurons to enter the world of rationality and eventually learn how to enjoy science.....
@@domiro8156 yes, pity.
There is a higher power: an increase in wattage
Dave: do you like bologna sandwiches?
Dave: Are cows real?
Dave: if I wave my hand in front of my face really quickly I can see right through it.
Dave dies in first-ever erotic quantum auto-enstranglement accident.
Schizophrenia is a hell of a drug.
Why are so many people so obsessed with having a "meaning for life". Why does there have to be a reason that we are here other then we just are? Even if you believe that there is a god, how do you know what reason he created us? We could be some science experience that is forgotten in the back of his closet. How does having a "reason" change your life at all? It doesn't.
Plus, the reasons given from religion don't seem satisfying. "To glorify and praise god" "To follow God's plan" "To serve God's purpose". These do not seem satisfying. My parents literally made me and helped shape who I am more than a god did. Does that mean I should therefore follow their intent in all things to have a satisfying purpose?
Ironically, it's not even impossible to think up a god different from the Abrahamic god that does offer a more satisfying purpose than "Follow my will and praise me, and you'll be rewarded with eternal servitude at my feet in heaven, and avoid eternal torment". Imagine a god who had given the goal of maximizing human well-being. Or overseeing the flourishing of our world. Or the pursuit of knowledge. Or advancing humanity till like any child, we reach the level of our creator.
The meaning of life religion offers adds very little. It does not fall under the driving forces that make us happiest, at all. Sure, it may offer some freedom of doubts for people burdened with them. But there are so many more noble, good and enjoyable goals with actual impact on yourself, others and the world you could put yourself towards. We may serve no cause for the cosmos. But there are many causes we can serve for humanity.
Exactly Ann G and Lorecrafty!
Imagine a scenario where a certain Caveman decides to sit in his Cave for 23 days trying to figure out what the angry sky father is mad about now and what it wants him to do about it, or he sits and tries to figure out what the meaning of life could possibly be, meanwhile all the other Omnivores and the Carnivores around him have figured it out and they are happily eating up all of his breakfasts, lunches and dinners and thinking, “ Damn, I’m having more luck than usual at putting on some fat. I’m feeling so good; I feel like playing!”
There was certainly very heavy selection against that kind of detrimental religiosity/ mental illness back then, especially in our pre farming history. It was only once humans could grow crops and live in cooperative colonies and villages, that the Conmen could live off of spoils of the hard work of Religotards. I always laugh when I see large groups of Monks playing around, doing Sand Art and whatever else tickles their lazy a** fancy and all the clueless around them, thinking there is something special about it all. I don’t admire these humans that grift off of others, but it certainly seems to be working for them.
Matt's getting his cardio in.
And his double-taps, too.
Peterson is a Nut.....
Well done Matt...there's me thinking I was a Nut, in thinking Peterson is a Nut...
Thank you...
He's also a fraud.
But our lives would have no meaning without the metaphorical substrate! Haven't you read Crime and Punishment? (kidding, kidding--I can't even reproduce his word salad)
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Jordon......Drug
Peterson...Addict
Pretty sure he's a lobster
Alvin, if you add up the letters that form the final 8 pages of the bible it doesn’t equal pi.
How do you explain that?
Love the Intro song!!! Awesome!!!!
Alvin-NC: Waste of everyone's time, including his own. This quack has been on before.
So good to see old Dazza still at it.
Great show guys 👍
im a very angry man since iv become an Atheist, Religious people annoy me, and in "conversations"with friends i almost become a bulley, they stole 40 years of my life.
Jessica from UT is an example of toxic critical theory, a viewpoint that Matt and parts of the ACA placate to. The entire conversation of privilege/power is owned by people who in other topics would be considered irrational because of bad epistemology.
Pretty rich, considering that your entire comment is based on faulty reasoning.
@@tacitblack4732 how so?
She may have got the idea of ‘privilege’ from critical theory, but she badly misapplied it, as Matt explained. However, in no way does her mistake undermine critical theory itself. In the same way that when theists constantly call in with a botched understanding of entropy, in no way does their mistake undermine the physics of thermodynamics.
@@DeusExMamiya I agree, this is my point completely. She isn’t alone in the toxic misapplication of it sadly, and I’ve seen times where there is no pushback. My assumption is when it involves theism/atheism, it is less polarized and easier to pushback against. But the left needs to be better about pushing back against the misapplication of “theories” like critical theory, even when the misapplication is helping narratives we agree with.
I can’t seem to find the member join page please someone let me know ( I want to get off slow chat, and support the show) in the description the link posted just keeps leading me back to channel page it’s not showing me an option to join channel as a member idk I’m on my phone (iPhone) maybe that’s why ?
If the "join" link next to the subscribe button isn't working for you, then you may need to make an attempt on a PC, if that's an option for you.
There is no join button but I’ll try the pc
I love Dr. Darrell Ray but I also love Shannon. You always look fantastic, Shannon. Thanks for being a grounding source.
As for the first caller: remember kids, don't do drugs
I've been watching AE episodes for 12 years.. Recently its getting a bit hard to listen to Matt.. Feels like he's tired of doing this.
I say that because he speaks like someone who yes has been doing this for 17 years but its starting to sound like there's an animosity from him towards the caller if heaven forbid THEY havent been doing this for 17 years, or havent seen some video he made on a particular subject the previous week. Like there's almost no tolerance from him for someone who isnt a professional debater and might get something just slightly wrong
It makes my day to hear Matt KO these people.
He is the Mike Tyson of atheism.
With a mas macho voice. And 33% more ear.
If you prayed for 23 days and then heard a voice, why would you think it's God? Why not Michael Jordan or Dr. Pepper?
Kyle, well i used to ""pray" a lot and eventually realised I was talking to myself.
What you saw was irrefurtably teh Spirt of Bhudda.
So how about I tell you -
Then I prayed to Buddha and now all is well. !!
Clearly it worked therefore Bhudia worked and is real, which by default means Christianity is false. Proved...!!!
Was the playing card you held up the rules card?
I'm not a narcissist. I do not think I'm better than everyone else, even if everybody else thinks I'm better than them. I'm just a regular ole Joe.
Everybody thinks you’re better than them?! Is your village super small and you have never left it?
@@paddlefar9175 I don't live in a village, I live in a city. And I didn't say everyone thinks I'm better than them. I said even IF everyone thinks I'm better than them. I can't read minds, so I don't know what everyone thinks. That's the reason I said If. You assume too much. You should never assume because you make an ass of u, and me.
Instead of praying I started farting for 23 days and believe you me, I eventually heard my name out loud!
I think JR needs to have her chakras checked cause the woo woo nonsense dishonesty aura is of the chart, lol.
I don't always debunk the Holy Spirit. But when I do, its Bushmills.
JR sounds like my mum.
Impossible to have a normal conversation with her, without her trying to use her beliefs to manipulate people into what she wants subconsciously presented as if it's some sort of spiritual face/prophecy so you can't dispute it. Her most common reply is "I can't help what I do".
Shannon and Dr. Darrel Ray?! Awesome!
Holy shit. I am always amazed how humans can convince ourselves to believe such ridiculousness. We really haven’t evolved nearly as far as we think.
Evolution is an ongoing process. I wonder where 'fittest' lies in this case.
@@qwadratix That is a good point. Don't know how familiar folks are with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, but I would rather be Vogons (aliens who've functionally shut down evolution with surgery, etc) physiologically than culturally.
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One problem with this is the more we explore reality, the more we discover it's stranger than we could have imagined. Try explaining quantum mechanics to someone who has no concept of it, you'll probably sound like a lunatic.
This in no way justifies woo, I'm just saying ridiculousness alone isn't a good way to go about managing claims.
@@uninspired3583 TBH, it's stranger than the human mind is capable of grasping. I don't know of a single theoretical physicist that claims to even begin to understand his subject now, outside of the mathematics used to describe it. The math is at least within reach, but an understanding of what the math actually means is a huge problem.
Our brains evolved to deal with a universe that's filtered to us through five crude senses and it's conditioned us to an intuitive grasp of the world only so that we can survive, not so that we can understand how it all works.
Such things as relativity and QM are outside of what evolution has deemed necessary.
Thanks so much for turning on subs!!
I think JR's call was the very worst attempt i have ever heard for someone trying to prove their claim.
Oh man she had a whole buffet of BS set up, though. She might as well have recited the rules of quidditch, and it makes me sad that for many people, that's probably enough to convince them to give her money.
Regarding morality. If you argue for objective morality the question I have is this: What is the objective? For you to have what you consider to be objective morality you need an objective. Any objective you choose is an objective you’ve chosen and is therefore subjective.
Jason - What objective standard do you judge your god's subjective morality by?
JR-AR: A real facepalm moment with this woman. I actually can't believe they let her babble on for as long as they did.
I'm quite happy it went on exactly as long as it did. I don't care for the calls where the caller is immediately shut down. He just allowed her to shoot herself in the foot.
(Paraphrased)
JR: I'm a super uber master at communing with the spirit.
Matt: What card am I holding up?
JR: The spirit doesn't want to.
Matt: Well, I guess the spirit doesn't want you to be on the show then. 'bye.
Is it me or is RUclips making less subtitles recently?
I like the way Matt gets pissed. Pure Gold. Hails.
Legendary
Kyle didn't lie... He thought he knew what he saw. To him, it was a spirit. Ask any Christian if Yahweh exists, and they will say yes. That's not a lie. It's simply likely wrong, and not based on good evidence. The same goes for just about any religion and god out there.
As for Kyle hearing audible voices when he wakes up, I'd ask him if he's ever woken up to the sound of a gunshot, barking dog, or anything else that wasn't there. If so, it's not schizophrenia. It's the same thing I have, which is basically waking hallucinations. They happen as you drift off to sleep, and as you're coming out of REM. They happen very rarely, which would account for why it seemed so important. They are also entirely real sounding. I remember when I was younger, I'd hear my mother calling me from downstairs, and yell out that I was on my way down, only to realize it was like 3am, and she was fast asleep along with the rest of the world. But, it only ever happens while drifting in or out of sleep.
As for Facetime... It's just a glitch, mate. I took a photo of a "demon" once. Thing looked real as fuck. It was my cigarette smoke, along with candle smoke rising up, but half invisible to the naked eye. It looked pretty damned visible in the photo. I stuck it through a yellow filter to cancel out the shadows, and it looked like a floating humanoid body with horns, and a pitchfork. Coolest photo I've ever taken. lol
In short, it's called delusional. Kyle is delusional
@@seasonedbeefs So... I'm delusional as well? Fine with me. I've been called worse.
The lie he was called out for, wasn't that he said it was a spirit. It was that he said he "knew" it was a spirit. Had he said he "thought" it was, or he "believed" it was, that wouldn't have been a lie. But he said he "knew" it was a spirit, while being fully aware he *didn't* know for certain. Personally I feel "lie" was a strong word, but I agree with Matt that people need to be called out for saying they "know" things are true, when those things can't be fully established as fact.
Alvin. Genesis adds up to pi.
Therefore Space Cake.
"Genesis adds up to pi."
The part I have to laugh at is that many years ago, some guy posted a similar thing where in he had calculated out all this mystical numbers nonsense, and a week later someone did it with the first chapters of a couple of mainstream books like The Hobbit and got more or less the same results...
When Kyle said “ when I was a kid on FaceTime….” My 39 year old self felt old as hell lol. And that’s coming from an atheist who doesn’t even believe in hell lol 😂
I thought the same thing!
@@ierwin88 LOL! Likeminds haha!
Kyle feels like the fakest caller ever. The first caller. He's rattling off all these things why Christians think people turn Atheist and is just trying to get Matt to confirm any of those reasons as legit reasons. God not answering prayers, being angry at god, or placing your faith in science aren't what any believer did to become an Atheist. If you think god, Jesus, demons and spirits are real, keep praying.
OK, as a PhD mathematician, I am commenting about the bull that Alvin had about some calculation leading close to the number pi. So what? We can pick any number and retroactively go back and make up some calculation that will approximate said number. This sort of nonsense is on a par with the stupidity of numerology generally, or astrology, or ....
Dang, missed this one live. So what did I miss? Callers fail to explain what spiritualism is, and more tired debunked arguments about morality.