I really don’t understand why they nerfed them so hard. Unaffected by Card Effects on 3 Cards that were at the time, Un-searchable, needed 3 Tributes, and went to the GY post special summon. Why the fuck would you nerf these so ridiculously bad.
How to fix the Egyptian god cards. Print a field spell that searches a level 4 monster for a God Card. Field spell should allow you to have one extra normal summon for a god card. Said monster has to be able to search for a god card on summon. Said monster allows you to count it as three tributes for a Divine Beast. It should also have the effect that says "A Divine Beast summoned with this card as a tribute gains this effect: It cannot be affected by card effects."
If the Egyptian Gods were non-targetable and unable to be destroyed by card effects they would be so much closer to what they are in the anime and they would be much more playable
They should get even better protection, at the least “can’t be targeted and can’t be destroyed by card effects” and make their individual effects quick plays
@@TheDuelingBeard This. And they need to at least give Ra his pre-OCG release Video Game effects that lets him be SPECIAL SUMMONED and gives him both his "ATK/DEF = Tributed Monsters" Boost and his Phoenix Mode effect. The fact that the Video Game versions of the Egyptian Gods were established long before the actual cards finally came out in the OCG/TCG, and they gave us this trash instead of their better balanced video game effects (at the very least) goes to show the level of disrespect Konami has for its fans! And speaking of disrespect, going off-topic for a bit, you know another card that badly needs to be errata'd...? CARD OF SANCTITY!!! I could not be the only one who wanted to crack the skull of the Konami idiot who took one of the best spell cards in the entire anime and gave it that trash effect with absolutely NO semblance to the original, then later gave us the effect, word for word, years later with Silent Burning and an Egyptian God support card (I forgot the name)! I mean what was the point in screwing up Card of Sanctity in the first place if you were gonna give us the effect down the road anyway... and TWICE at that?! This is why I quit the IRL card game and just now play with the anime versions on EDOPro with the AI. I even plan on making my own versions of the cards played in the anime into my customized version of EDOPro that actually gives them their rightful effects/stats so I can play Yu-Gi-Oh how it was meant to be played from the start... With ALL of the cards from the anime and with ALL of their rightful effects with Konami's not getting another dime from me! This will be my middle finger to the corporation who screwed the game and us diehard fans of the anime WAY too many times! (Sorry for the long rant... Remembering how they royally screwed over my favorite God Card: The Winged Dragon of Ra kinda boiled my blood all over again... 😅)
When me and my friends play sometimes we just use the colored back cards and do whatever we want 😂😂 I totally agree with all your points! Such a shame the cards got nerfed.
You should see the new Exodia , it has Ra's lp==>atk effect without actually paying any 😂 , i think the EGs would've been better off banned with their original effects rather than being completely useless and not banned . Also it's funny to me how they made all these support cards that to make them somewhat useful , so now on top of the 3 tributes, you still need more cards to make a combo with them basically the 5 pieces of exodia without the win condition .
Competitive player here. Even if the Egyptian gods had their broken anime effects, I still doubt that they’d be any good. Main reason is because getting them onto the field is a huge commitment (Which is the biggest reason why they don’t see play at all). We also have mechanics in the game that were touched on in the DM era, but were expanded on to make some potent meta staples. For example, it’s very easy to force Slifer’s effect, making it prime Kurikara Divancarnate bait (Kurikara Divincarnate Special Summons itself by tributing every monster on the field that activated an effect *for cost, so it gets around protection effects*.), or you can just kaiju away the the opponents god.
You’re spot on. I also consider myself decently competitive. This is why I’m so disappointed, because these heaping piles of trash wouldn’t have been competitive in any era with the way they were printed. At the end of the day, even if they were weak to kurikara/kaiju/lava golem it’d still be fine if you could get them and the resources to summon them effectively. Dragoon could be kaijud and he was still a mofo. The payoff just isn’t there and never was.
They could just have made a re-train of the gods with the better effects and would be better but no, we need 3 cards per god to get near to the real thing.
I remember reading Ra's effect as a kid and being confused. Where was the attack gain effect? I can't summon it with Monster Reborn? Why do I have to sacrifice all my LP if the second effect requires LP to use? It was such bad card design and it always felt wrong. I was so hyped when I pulled Ra from the Premium Gold packs, it looked amazing and still does. But then the disappointment I got after realizing how bad it was cannot be understated. Slifer was not far behind either but at least it kept the iconic parts if it's effect at least. Thankfully I also did pull a Beelze from that set so I ended up maining that card in my weird pile deck at the time. It used to be my boss monster at the time. Too bad the gods sucked though, would've been cool to have my childhood dreams come alive in the actual card game. And it's not like Konami is really incapable of making good legacy support for the anime. I mean we saw the new Red Dragon Archfiend structure deck being pretty decent.
Exactly my feelings too, when I returned to the game and saw they made legal god cards I was ecstatic until I read them 😂 And here’s hoping they can do something like the RDA deck for the gods AND NOT put them as hard to pull short prints in a side set that isn’t worth anything that makes the cards 60$ a piece
@@TheDuelingBeard I believe that Ancient Chant just got a reprint right? That should help at least. Although, god cards as they are should be nothing more than a cheap fun deck.
@@ether2275 Ancient Chant did get reprinted so it's only 2$ now but Guardian Slime is still at minimum 17$ a piece and I know Ra decks play 3 copies so that sucks. Hopefully it gets reprinted in Rarity Collection 2 like Egyptian God Slime did.
@@Mr_Ozone I'm sorry what? Maybe you're a little confused here cause Guardian Slime was in Rarity Collection, I literally have 3 of it in Ultra Rare and got them for around 3€ total. If Ancient Chant is also that low now then Egyptian God decks must be cheap to make now, which is surprising for me. I have to check out those Ancient Chants to make sure.
@@ether2275 Egyptian God Slime was what got reprinted in Rarity Collection, Guardian Slime still has the single printing from Rage of Ra. Ancient Chant got reprinted in the most recent set: Maze of Millennia, it's super cheap now. The God decks are cheaper than they've ever been but Guardian Slime is still up there in price
Obelisk at least has soooome effect protection. Silfer 2nd mouth effect at least is more usefull and versatile than its anime one. However what they did to Ra is a MURDER
Konami don't remake/rerelease cards, instead, they make support around the cards but they don't retrain/errata the old cards, I think they missing out, no matter what support they add, they feel incomplete without a remake, and that's why I don't play them anymore, but it felt good to Ra OTK before the new support was even printed.
Exactly, the worst thing that they did was not making them relevant for even the time they came out in. They’ve been trash ever since release which is rough. I saw they printed that card “Spell card-monster reborn” Basically a retrained monster reborn but quick play, maybe they can do something like that for the god cards. Doubt it but hey it’s a thought.
If the god cards each had a different protection like one immune from tributed, one immune to destruction effects and one immune to removal that would have been interesting
Phoenix mode ra should have been summonable from the grave, hand, or deck. All of them should have been immune to card effect destruction Ra should have gotten the combined attack of its tributed monsters Their support cards help give them some of their anime effects but in practicality they end up dead draws more often than not.
The Egyptian Gods’ Trio of: Slifer The Sky Dragon, Obelisk The Tormentor and The Winged Dragon Of Ra honestly need to get retrained forms as well as get more the major potential quality of the life resources’ improvements’ themed supports and then most of all: the retrained forms
They prob will one day, they literally retrained monster reborn and monster reborn was already good, they’ll prob make: Winged dragon of Ra - the almighty sun god Slifer the sky dragon - lord of the sky Obelisk the tormentor - even buffer arms version
If they gave them their anime effects and their own card colors , like slifer red , obelisk blue, Ra yellow konami would've made a sh*t ton of money . Idk what happened inside the company when these cards were getting printed
@@TheDuelingBeard tested their manga effects in Edopro , and i can tell you they still aren't that competitive, had Slifer on the field , opponent played infinite impermanence and Slifer was done . Atk points went to 0 . Same thing happened with Ra .
@@TheDuelingBeard i think that was more of a how magical dementias was interacting with dark magician and dark magician girl it was more like magicians unite
The worst part is all the support cards they release for them, along with for original characters' decks. Some are nice like the ones Yugi has for his dark magicians but they got obsessed with the whole idea of archetypes so instead of having cards that work by themselves separately, the have to be used with Blue Eyes or Dark Magician, where as they should be cards to use with a lvl 8's or dragons/ lvl 7 or spellcaster respectively. They should have decks more like the ones in the show but they got lazy at the beginning of the game and rushed things along to make up for it and that's why we have problems like powercreep and problems with very cookie cutter meta decks. (that's also an issue of Konami being greedy but thats another story) They should have never had to make errata's to cards in the first place, and it just shows how irresponsible they are. (I'm still waiting for negative energy to be released too, it's not even that broken, especially nowadays.....)
@@TheDuelingBeard Exactly, it's a waste. Though I hate what they're doing with the god cards, I almost hate what they did to Kaibas deck even more, making it all blue eyes support cards. With the god cards they could use the fact that the storylines take place in different dimensions as an excuse when nerfing them but they definitely did Ra and Kaiba dirty. (meanwhile Pegasus gets a whole deck of goods retrained cards) They could have made gravekeeper support for it, plus let you special summon it along with making all its eff speed 4/make unaffected by opponents eff and non tributable; this is the very least too and literally one of the only erratas that should ever take place...
My opinion of the 3 God cards: Slifer: The only one that's usefull. his effect is interesting, he just need protection. Winged Ra: Has more stuff going on than the other 2, but it's just a worse Numeron Dragon and a niche side tech if you uave ball. Sphere Ra: Just another Lava Golem. Can be funny if you have Winged Ra too. Fine at it is. Phoenix Ra: i've never seen anyone using this one ever. Obelisk: he's a 4k beater, that's it. He needs that ∞ ATK effect, ngl
Here me out... Retrain them and have them activate a field spell on summon that can't leave the field by card effect. The field spell gives them their on field protection. Have them get their personalized effects and their summon protection. Have the field spell assign a divine hierarchy to all monsters
what's retarded about the way they handled these cards was the fact that the effects they got function the reverse of how they're supposed to. let me demonstrate and only use the manga effects as they're more consistent. compared to the anime the standard god effect doesn't apply to any of them whatsoever. Obelisk: tributes 2 monsters, destroys opponent's monsters and deals 4000 damage, and any monsters that survive the destruction must battle it while its attack is infinite. essentially a game-winner condition much like exodia. affected only for one turn by any effects including special summons. What we got: destroys the board, but cannot attack, nor deal any damage... some variant of those would have been nice. Slifer was fine in general but having no protection is pathetic. Ra is the funniest: in the story mai summons it after acquiring the card through Exchange but cannot use it. we got sphere mode as a separate card that you force on your opponent by tributing their cards. ra's attack and defense on normal summon was equal to the monsters used to summon it, while the point-to-point transfer was on special summon. in addition phoenix mode was another option you could choose upon special summoning ra... what we got was no gain from tributes and the point to point transfer effect was given to normal summoning him, phoenix mode became a card that itself had to be in the graveyard and got summoned when ra was sent to the GY as opposed to when resurrected. when you think about it, it's like they did this as a practical fucking joke to troll us fans... "how many ways can we make the egyptian god cards act OPPOSITE to how they're supposed to and grief the fanbase?"
with that being said. i still do enjoy the fact that they got the rest of their effects (minus the protections) with the support cards and have become fun to slap into different decks that can turbo out monsters (the Horus cards get extra points for being thematically matching and overall synergizing well with any of the 3). though honestly, while i'd love to see some retrains of these cards like other classic cards have gotten, i'd rather konami never touches the egyptian gods ever again with a 10 foot pole. fanmade simulators with the accurate god cards exist and i will enjoy playing them there, as i don't actually play the irl card game (nor intend to fork over my wallet for such a hobby).
Yea you’re spot on, that’s essentially what I was trying to say. They butchered the cards, prob the worst butchering or any port of cards in Yugioh. And the fixes were cool but it felt in bad faith because the cards were so expensive, slider and obelisk still feel like a mess even with getting a few cards, especially obelisk
@@TheDuelingBeard know what's an even bigger slap in the face? while the Wicked Gods from the side-manga by Takahashi-san's understudy got to be in the game (and gave us divine evolution, a decently powerful card) they essentially got the same treatment as these 3 gods... while the sacred beasts, which were essentially unoriginal recycles of the OG 3, get to have an entire deck dedicated to turboing them and their 10K ATK fusion out, gaining massive advantage and disabling the opponent's field. it's clear they can competently reimagine old cards or bring them back with decently powerful support. but it's really like they're not even trying with the Egyptian Gods. the slime support cards have absolute ass restrictions on them that prevent them from being useful more than once (if not negated)... meanwhile you can grab the sacred beast support cards and use them as an engine for other cards INCLUDING the egyptian gods... counterintuitive and non-thematic with the cards. they are definitely trolling us lmao
@LightBringer666 big facts. Genuinely wondering why they prefer gx archetypes over dm, they give more support to dm sure but they give better support to gx. Like I said, it seems they designed the god cards to not fit in any format and then when they support them it’s with cards that have a power level from a few years ago. Like RA support would have MAYBE been relevant in the kid 2010s and that might be a stretch
@@TheDuelingBeard honest to god i had no freaking idea the troll went that hard, i always thought people just didn't play the god cards "ANYMORE" cause of powercreep being a thing, but it seems they were doomed from the start. i'm convinced it's a practical joke, cause why else would they reduce any other divine monsters from the animes into other types? to preserve the divine heirarchy of the lore? lmao yeah right honest to god they could have kept them as busted as the show at a cost... pay lp or tribute a monster to prevent destruction or something that makes it feel like you're paying a god for their time and involvement in your feud.
I know you are a yugioh youtuber but can you make a video talking about other tcg games and how yugioh can learn from them? I would love to hear your opinion.
unaffected by monster effects unless they are from a divine-beast. cannot have attacks or effects negated. stuff like that would be similar to the protection they had in the anime
Baseline addition: Cannot be tributed or used as part of an extra deck summon, and its effects cannot be negated. During the battle phase, the activated effects of your opponents cards are negated. (Ash-Bait, the god support), Link 1 When summoned, reveal one Divine-Beast in your hand and add one card from your deck to your hand that mentions the name of your revealed card. Counts as two tributes for a Divine-Beast, and cannot be used as link material. When used as a tribute for a Divine-Beast, that monster gains the following effect based on its original name: * The Winged Dragon of Ra - Your life points cannot be reduced by any means except by this card's effects. * Obelisk the Tormentor - During the battle phase, you may tribute a monster that hasn't attacked; this card may immediately declare an attack, ignoring other restrictions * Slifer the Sky Dragon - When an opponents monster is summoned in Defense position, its Defense is reduced by 2000. If its Defense becomes 0 by this effect, it is destroyed. I think having to get the card in hand is still a good way to limit the deck from turboing out an unstoppable boss monster, but it should be damn near a win condition when it hits the field. Once its battle phase and the card is still on the field, that should be game.
These cards are already hard enough to get on the field but the fact that Slifer and Ra NEED Mound of the Bound Creators to have ANY protection at all is just so infuriating. Why give Obelisk targeting protection but not the other two? Weren't these cards printed in 2010? Many boss monsters already had protection at that time, what was the justification for not giving it to the GODS? Red Nova Dragon came out around the same time in late 2010 and it has great protection, and was arguably just as difficult to summon. I still play the Gods anyway but having them taken off the field so easily still leaves such a sour taste in my mouth
Exactly, it’s an uphill battle and just honestly a waste of time. When me and my buddy do jank play I use the god cards and he uses freaking shinobirds and it’s a no contest. They are a level below jank. And if you want that to be the case Konami then that’s fine BUT stop advertising the gods for the game. They milk the Egyptian gods and DM and blue eyes so much that it’s cringe. They’re not good archetyoes
@@TheDuelingBeard And they give Blue Eyes and DM monsters with ACTUAL protection like Chaos MAX, Dragoon, and Alternative Ultimate Dragon. Soul Crossing may have been a huge boost to the God decks but there still isn't a good way to search them. Idk why they're so afraid of giving them strong support, I highly doubt they'll be good enough to be meta anyway, so just go nuts. Slifer is completely reliant on Numeron and Obelisk doesn't have the support that Ra has. Just give them the same treatment as Gate Guardian and Flame Swordsman- give them actual support with a coherent strategy while still making the original cards relevant.
Idea retrain them with the names Egyptian god obelisk Egyptian god slifer/osiris Egyptian god ra Anime effects and they look like the dawn of the duel versions aka the true spirits of the gods But they have a drawback they stay on the field as long as how many tributes (min3) 3turns 4 turns or 5 turns
Well, I don't hate them, since the deck (mostly Ra) is fun to play now with the new support. But yeah, you're right, the cards are way too expensive for what they are and the deck sucks. Maybe with its current power level it can finally beat Lightsworn. 🤣
@@Devo2.0 The god cards themselves yes, but not their support cards like Ancient Chant or Guardian Slime. For a long time Ancient Chant was more expensive than Pot of Prosperity. 😅
Exactly. So the problem here is Step one-Konami makes the god cards utter garbage Step 2-player base buys them anyway because bro they’re the freaking god cards Step 3-god cards are printed en masse to get every anime head his copies Step 4-fix a problem WE MADE by printing support for these pieces of garbage and instead of the feeling that you’re wielding a god card you instead have a feeling that you are wielding a broken toy sword made of paper mache, that recently for a expensive ass fee can be outfitted with a metal case making the sword a baseball bat. And you paid like 5000 dollars for it. All the while you could have just bought a 500 dollar gun..
@@TheDuelingBeard Exactly, and it was a decision they consciencely made and not by accident. Especially in the time they came out: for 3 tributes you could give them a lot more. Their anime protection wouldn't have been broken whatsoever on a 3 tributes card. I mean Destiny Hero Plasma was already around and was way better than any of the god cards. To be honest: even with all their anime effects and protection they would've still been not very competitive when they came out. I'd dare to say that without its support cards Ra is worse than Arcana Force Light and Dark Ruler. I will give Slifer and Obelisk some credit for at least being better than those. But being better than Arcana Force isn't much of an achievement haha.
At the time the God cards needed to be powerful but not broken to the point opponents wouldn't be able deal with them. Also the God card couldn't be so powerful and easy to use that they became auto include staples especially since at the time they were the Konami wanted to keep the numbers of them limited. and if they were to become a staple outside of their own dedicated decks then that would have priced out players from playing in tournaments.
Fair enough but the question is would that be any different from any other set or card group in history? Like crush card, DAD, Minerva, and a million more examples. I think they just wanted money and didn’t want to deal with actually taking the time to design them well
They made them so weak ,even man-eater bug is far more useful . I still don't understand why they would give 0 protection to monsters that aren't easy to summon at all , Dragoon is almost an anime egyptian gd with his broken effects and he is the easiest monster to summon . Hell i think he is even better than anime obelisk with his pop-burn effect, so much for balance . And he isn't even semi-limited (in the tcg at least)😂
Konami is the most inconsistent company ever. They just need to reprint them and upgrade them, give them the manga names and make new support, boom free money printer idea. Dragoon is wild, I love the card but it does make other anime support look so bad by comparison
We dont get any of this at all. You do realize that slifer has its second mouth ability and obelisk has the raigeki effect in their tcg versions right?
@@TheDuelingBeard the only fun use I've really found is playing one as a one of with friends in goat format games. Slifer and obelisk are great. Slifers atk reduction and obelisks targeting protection are insanely strong. Unfortunately though even in goat format ra is still absolutely horrible. For obelisk the only non targeting removal is mirror force, tribe, and torrential.and even with torrential you'd have to trigger it with another monster while obelisk is on field
When i sea an egyptiaj god against me , i laugh with my eldlich in my hand . I just send that "GOD" to the grave rhen summon eldlich again and it cannot be affected hhhhhh elflich is more powerful than egyptian gods cards
@@TheDuelingBeard no you never learned to get good with them. If someone can get to master 1 in master duel with neo spacians, it's clearly a skill issue
Sorry dude but before you do a video about something, try to do some research so you don't end up looking like an idiot. Obelisk CAN be destroyed by card effects, the only protection Obelisk has is protection from targeting.
Yeah, they got vandalized. They should at the very least be non-targetable. It's such a shame.
Exactly, they made them unplayable in every capacity. A three tribute monster HAS to have protection
I really don’t understand why they nerfed them so hard. Unaffected by Card Effects on 3 Cards that were at the time, Un-searchable, needed 3 Tributes, and went to the GY post special summon.
Why the fuck would you nerf these so ridiculously bad.
My point exactly. Probably the biggest fumble in Konami history and that’s saying something..
How to fix the Egyptian god cards.
Print a field spell that searches a level 4 monster for a God Card. Field spell should allow you to have one extra normal summon for a god card.
Said monster has to be able to search for a god card on summon. Said monster allows you to count it as three tributes for a Divine Beast.
It should also have the effect that says "A Divine Beast summoned with this card as a tribute gains this effect: It cannot be affected by card effects."
This is pretty good, sounds like a Egyptian god invoked engine
If the Egyptian Gods were non-targetable and unable to be destroyed by card effects they would be so much closer to what they are in the anime and they would be much more playable
The problem is almost all boss monsters are like that now and they aren't even gods hhh
They need to errata them. Please konami please. Also they should all have obelisk protection eff
They should get even better protection, at the least “can’t be targeted and can’t be destroyed by card effects” and make their individual effects quick plays
@@TheDuelingBeard This. And they need to at least give Ra his pre-OCG release Video Game effects that lets him be SPECIAL SUMMONED and gives him both his "ATK/DEF = Tributed Monsters" Boost and his Phoenix Mode effect. The fact that the Video Game versions of the Egyptian Gods were established long before the actual cards finally came out in the OCG/TCG, and they gave us this trash instead of their better balanced video game effects (at the very least) goes to show the level of disrespect Konami has for its fans!
And speaking of disrespect, going off-topic for a bit, you know another card that badly needs to be errata'd...? CARD OF SANCTITY!!! I could not be the only one who wanted to crack the skull of the Konami idiot who took one of the best spell cards in the entire anime and gave it that trash effect with absolutely NO semblance to the original, then later gave us the effect, word for word, years later with Silent Burning and an Egyptian God support card (I forgot the name)! I mean what was the point in screwing up Card of Sanctity in the first place if you were gonna give us the effect down the road anyway... and TWICE at that?!
This is why I quit the IRL card game and just now play with the anime versions on EDOPro with the AI. I even plan on making my own versions of the cards played in the anime into my customized version of EDOPro that actually gives them their rightful effects/stats so I can play Yu-Gi-Oh how it was meant to be played from the start... With ALL of the cards from the anime and with ALL of their rightful effects with Konami's not getting another dime from me! This will be my middle finger to the corporation who screwed the game and us diehard fans of the anime WAY too many times!
(Sorry for the long rant... Remembering how they royally screwed over my favorite God Card: The Winged Dragon of Ra kinda boiled my blood all over again... 😅)
When me and my friends play sometimes we just use the colored back cards and do whatever we want 😂😂 I totally agree with all your points! Such a shame the cards got nerfed.
I feel you there, that is the only fun way to play these cards 🤣
You should see the new Exodia , it has Ra's lp==>atk effect without actually paying any 😂 , i think the EGs would've been better off banned with their original effects rather than being completely useless and not banned . Also it's funny to me how they made all these support cards that to make them somewhat useful , so now on top of the 3 tributes, you still need more cards to make a combo with them basically the 5 pieces of exodia without the win condition .
100% the only hope we have is that Konami gives them the Exodia treatment and makes a whole set about them to cash in
Competitive player here. Even if the Egyptian gods had their broken anime effects, I still doubt that they’d be any good. Main reason is because getting them onto the field is a huge commitment (Which is the biggest reason why they don’t see play at all). We also have mechanics in the game that were touched on in the DM era, but were expanded on to make some potent meta staples. For example, it’s very easy to force Slifer’s effect, making it prime Kurikara Divancarnate bait (Kurikara Divincarnate Special Summons itself by tributing every monster on the field that activated an effect *for cost, so it gets around protection effects*.), or you can just kaiju away the the opponents god.
You’re spot on. I also consider myself decently competitive. This is why I’m so disappointed, because these heaping piles of trash wouldn’t have been competitive in any era with the way they were printed. At the end of the day, even if they were weak to kurikara/kaiju/lava golem it’d still be fine if you could get them and the resources to summon them effectively. Dragoon could be kaijud and he was still a mofo. The payoff just isn’t there and never was.
@@TheDuelingBeard Well, I wouldn’t say any era. Slifer actually has a good floodgate effect, and would’ve been hard to deal with in say, Goat format
@tpsplatinum3562 that night assailant though… or any back row
They could just have made a re-train of the gods with the better effects and would be better but no, we need 3 cards per god to get near to the real thing.
And even then it’s still ass 🤷♂️ thanks Konami
I remember reading Ra's effect as a kid and being confused. Where was the attack gain effect? I can't summon it with Monster Reborn? Why do I have to sacrifice all my LP if the second effect requires LP to use?
It was such bad card design and it always felt wrong. I was so hyped when I pulled Ra from the Premium Gold packs, it looked amazing and still does. But then the disappointment I got after realizing how bad it was cannot be understated. Slifer was not far behind either but at least it kept the iconic parts if it's effect at least.
Thankfully I also did pull a Beelze from that set so I ended up maining that card in my weird pile deck at the time. It used to be my boss monster at the time. Too bad the gods sucked though, would've been cool to have my childhood dreams come alive in the actual card game. And it's not like Konami is really incapable of making good legacy support for the anime. I mean we saw the new Red Dragon Archfiend structure deck being pretty decent.
Exactly my feelings too, when I returned to the game and saw they made legal god cards I was ecstatic until I read them 😂
And here’s hoping they can do something like the RDA deck for the gods AND NOT put them as hard to pull short prints in a side set that isn’t worth anything that makes the cards 60$ a piece
@@TheDuelingBeard I believe that Ancient Chant just got a reprint right? That should help at least. Although, god cards as they are should be nothing more than a cheap fun deck.
@@ether2275 Ancient Chant did get reprinted so it's only 2$ now but Guardian Slime is still at minimum 17$ a piece and I know Ra decks play 3 copies so that sucks. Hopefully it gets reprinted in Rarity Collection 2 like Egyptian God Slime did.
@@Mr_Ozone I'm sorry what? Maybe you're a little confused here cause Guardian Slime was in Rarity Collection, I literally have 3 of it in Ultra Rare and got them for around 3€ total. If Ancient Chant is also that low now then Egyptian God decks must be cheap to make now, which is surprising for me. I have to check out those Ancient Chants to make sure.
@@ether2275 Egyptian God Slime was what got reprinted in Rarity Collection, Guardian Slime still has the single printing from Rage of Ra. Ancient Chant got reprinted in the most recent set: Maze of Millennia, it's super cheap now. The God decks are cheaper than they've ever been but Guardian Slime is still up there in price
This man was so mad at konami for making crap god cards he made a 16.5 minute video essay on it! 🎉
Big facts. My favorite past time is hating on Konami,m 😎
Obelisk at least has soooome effect protection. Silfer 2nd mouth effect at least is more usefull and versatile than its anime one. However what they did to Ra is a MURDER
CRIMINAL
Konami don't remake/rerelease cards, instead, they make support around the cards but they don't retrain/errata the old cards, I think they missing out, no matter what support they add, they feel incomplete without a remake, and that's why I don't play them anymore, but it felt good to Ra OTK before the new support was even printed.
Exactly, the worst thing that they did was not making them relevant for even the time they came out in. They’ve been trash ever since release which is rough.
I saw they printed that card
“Spell card-monster reborn”
Basically a retrained monster reborn but quick play, maybe they can do something like that for the god cards. Doubt it but hey it’s a thought.
If the god cards each had a different protection like one immune from tributed, one immune to destruction effects and one immune to removal that would have been interesting
Agreed but the tribute protect would need like targeting too
Phoenix mode ra should have been summonable from the grave, hand, or deck.
All of them should have been immune to card effect destruction
Ra should have gotten the combined attack of its tributed monsters
Their support cards help give them some of their anime effects but in practicality they end up dead draws more often than not.
Spot on analysis
They need to either errata them or make new variants with their full anime effects.
The Egyptian Gods’ Trio of: Slifer The Sky Dragon, Obelisk The Tormentor and The Winged Dragon Of Ra honestly need to get retrained forms as well as get more the major potential quality of the life resources’ improvements’ themed supports and then most of all: the retrained forms
They prob will one day, they literally retrained monster reborn and monster reborn was already good, they’ll prob make:
Winged dragon of Ra - the almighty sun god
Slifer the sky dragon - lord of the sky
Obelisk the tormentor - even buffer arms version
If they gave them their anime effects and their own card colors , like slifer red , obelisk blue, Ra yellow konami would've made a sh*t ton of money . Idk what happened inside the company when these cards were getting printed
Me neither, they wanted to make them so they never get hit? But that resulted in cards that’ll never be used lol
@@TheDuelingBeard tested their manga effects in Edopro , and i can tell you they still aren't that competitive, had Slifer on the field , opponent played infinite impermanence and Slifer was done . Atk points went to 0 . Same thing happened with Ra .
Slifer and Obelisk have their place in gimmick decks, but using Ra is practically the same as playing SelfTK.
😂 the one and only STK in the game
from what i know they wore unaffected by other monster effects and trap cards and spell card effects only lasted one turn on them
Yep, they were but then sometimes they were affected. Like in the manga, Ra dies to magical dimension. Literally no lie 😂
@@TheDuelingBeard i think that was more of a how magical dementias was interacting with dark magician and dark magician girl it was more like magicians unite
They are in the perfect position to retrain them with all the remakes they are doing 👀
The worst part is all the support cards they release for them, along with for original characters' decks. Some are nice like the ones Yugi has for his dark magicians but they got obsessed with the whole idea of archetypes so instead of having cards that work by themselves separately, the have to be used with Blue Eyes or Dark Magician, where as they should be cards to use with a lvl 8's or dragons/ lvl 7 or spellcaster respectively.
They should have decks more like the ones in the show but they got lazy at the beginning of the game and rushed things along to make up for it and that's why we have problems like powercreep and problems with very cookie cutter meta decks.
(that's also an issue of Konami being greedy but thats another story)
They should have never had to make errata's to cards in the first place, and it just shows how irresponsible they are.
(I'm still waiting for negative energy to be released too, it's not even that broken, especially nowadays.....)
The god card support should at least work with all three not just one at a time… they don’t think when making cards
for example; the Card Knight Support should have been for the God Cards.
@@TheDuelingBeard Exactly, it's a waste. Though I hate what they're doing with the god cards, I almost hate what they did to Kaibas deck even more, making it all blue eyes support cards.
With the god cards they could use the fact that the storylines take place in different dimensions as an excuse when nerfing them but they definitely did Ra and Kaiba dirty.
(meanwhile Pegasus gets a whole deck of goods retrained cards)
They could have made gravekeeper support for it, plus let you special summon it along with making all its eff speed 4/make unaffected by opponents eff and non tributable; this is the very least too and literally one of the only erratas that should ever take place...
Yo I feel you,you absolutely right!
Thank you brother! 😎
I agree as the one guy trying to make a competitive Egyptian Gods deck using all 3
That feels like a masochist adventure 😂
My opinion of the 3 God cards:
Slifer: The only one that's usefull. his effect is interesting, he just need protection.
Winged Ra: Has more stuff going on than the other 2, but it's just a worse Numeron Dragon and a niche side tech if you uave ball.
Sphere Ra: Just another Lava Golem. Can be funny if you have Winged Ra too. Fine at it is.
Phoenix Ra: i've never seen anyone using this one ever.
Obelisk: he's a 4k beater, that's it. He needs that ∞ ATK effect, ngl
Spot on
Here me out...
Retrain them and have them activate a field spell on summon that can't leave the field by card effect. The field spell gives them their on field protection. Have them get their personalized effects and their summon protection. Have the field spell assign a divine hierarchy to all monsters
I like that, anything is better than what we have. But your take is interesting
what's retarded about the way they handled these cards was the fact that the effects they got function the reverse of how they're supposed to. let me demonstrate and only use the manga effects as they're more consistent. compared to the anime
the standard god effect doesn't apply to any of them whatsoever.
Obelisk: tributes 2 monsters, destroys opponent's monsters and deals 4000 damage, and any monsters that survive the destruction must battle it while its attack is infinite. essentially a game-winner condition much like exodia. affected only for one turn by any effects including special summons.
What we got: destroys the board, but cannot attack, nor deal any damage... some variant of those would have been nice.
Slifer was fine in general but having no protection is pathetic.
Ra is the funniest: in the story mai summons it after acquiring the card through Exchange but cannot use it. we got sphere mode as a separate card that you force on your opponent by tributing their cards. ra's attack and defense on normal summon was equal to the monsters used to summon it, while the point-to-point transfer was on special summon. in addition phoenix mode was another option you could choose upon special summoning ra... what we got was no gain from tributes and the point to point transfer effect was given to normal summoning him, phoenix mode became a card that itself had to be in the graveyard and got summoned when ra was sent to the GY as opposed to when resurrected.
when you think about it, it's like they did this as a practical fucking joke to troll us fans... "how many ways can we make the egyptian god cards act OPPOSITE to how they're supposed to and grief the fanbase?"
with that being said. i still do enjoy the fact that they got the rest of their effects (minus the protections) with the support cards and have become fun to slap into different decks that can turbo out monsters (the Horus cards get extra points for being thematically matching and overall synergizing well with any of the 3).
though honestly, while i'd love to see some retrains of these cards like other classic cards have gotten, i'd rather konami never touches the egyptian gods ever again with a 10 foot pole. fanmade simulators with the accurate god cards exist and i will enjoy playing them there, as i don't actually play the irl card game (nor intend to fork over my wallet for such a hobby).
Yea you’re spot on, that’s essentially what I was trying to say. They butchered the cards, prob the worst butchering or any port of cards in Yugioh. And the fixes were cool but it felt in bad faith because the cards were so expensive, slider and obelisk still feel like a mess even with getting a few cards, especially obelisk
@@TheDuelingBeard know what's an even bigger slap in the face? while the Wicked Gods from the side-manga by Takahashi-san's understudy got to be in the game (and gave us divine evolution, a decently powerful card) they essentially got the same treatment as these 3 gods... while the sacred beasts, which were essentially unoriginal recycles of the OG 3, get to have an entire deck dedicated to turboing them and their 10K ATK fusion out, gaining massive advantage and disabling the opponent's field. it's clear they can competently reimagine old cards or bring them back with decently powerful support. but it's really like they're not even trying with the Egyptian Gods. the slime support cards have absolute ass restrictions on them that prevent them from being useful more than once (if not negated)... meanwhile you can grab the sacred beast support cards and use them as an engine for other cards INCLUDING the egyptian gods... counterintuitive and non-thematic with the cards. they are definitely trolling us lmao
@LightBringer666 big facts. Genuinely wondering why they prefer gx archetypes over dm, they give more support to dm sure but they give better support to gx. Like I said, it seems they designed the god cards to not fit in any format and then when they support them it’s with cards that have a power level from a few years ago. Like RA support would have MAYBE been relevant in the kid 2010s and that might be a stretch
@@TheDuelingBeard honest to god i had no freaking idea the troll went that hard, i always thought people just didn't play the god cards "ANYMORE" cause of powercreep being a thing, but it seems they were doomed from the start. i'm convinced it's a practical joke, cause why else would they reduce any other divine monsters from the animes into other types? to preserve the divine heirarchy of the lore? lmao yeah right
honest to god they could have kept them as busted as the show at a cost... pay lp or tribute a monster to prevent destruction or something that makes it feel like you're paying a god for their time and involvement in your feud.
They came out too early, I’m sure if they came out today the effects would be more accurate.
I know you are a yugioh youtuber but can you make a video talking about other tcg games and how yugioh can learn from them? I would love to hear your opinion.
unaffected by monster effects unless they are from a divine-beast. cannot have attacks or effects negated. stuff like that would be similar to the protection they had in the anime
I think that’s the best way without it being 8 paragraphs of specific protections
Baseline addition:
Cannot be tributed or used as part of an extra deck summon, and its effects cannot be negated. During the battle phase, the activated effects of your opponents cards are negated.
(Ash-Bait, the god support), Link 1
When summoned, reveal one Divine-Beast in your hand and add one card from your deck to your hand that mentions the name of your revealed card. Counts as two tributes for a Divine-Beast, and cannot be used as link material. When used as a tribute for a Divine-Beast, that monster gains the following effect based on its original name:
* The Winged Dragon of Ra - Your life points cannot be reduced by any means except by this card's effects.
* Obelisk the Tormentor - During the battle phase, you may tribute a monster that hasn't attacked; this card may immediately declare an attack, ignoring other restrictions
* Slifer the Sky Dragon - When an opponents monster is summoned in Defense position, its Defense is reduced by 2000. If its Defense becomes 0 by this effect, it is destroyed.
I think having to get the card in hand is still a good way to limit the deck from turboing out an unstoppable boss monster, but it should be damn near a win condition when it hits the field. Once its battle phase and the card is still on the field, that should be game.
This is what I mean, we the Yugioh fans can come up with better cards to support this unfortunate archetype than Konami
These cards are already hard enough to get on the field but the fact that Slifer and Ra NEED Mound of the Bound Creators to have ANY protection at all is just so infuriating. Why give Obelisk targeting protection but not the other two? Weren't these cards printed in 2010? Many boss monsters already had protection at that time, what was the justification for not giving it to the GODS? Red Nova Dragon came out around the same time in late 2010 and it has great protection, and was arguably just as difficult to summon. I still play the Gods anyway but having them taken off the field so easily still leaves such a sour taste in my mouth
Exactly, it’s an uphill battle and just honestly a waste of time. When me and my buddy do jank play I use the god cards and he uses freaking shinobirds and it’s a no contest. They are a level below jank. And if you want that to be the case Konami then that’s fine BUT stop advertising the gods for the game. They milk the Egyptian gods and DM and blue eyes so much that it’s cringe. They’re not good archetyoes
@@TheDuelingBeard And they give Blue Eyes and DM monsters with ACTUAL protection like Chaos MAX, Dragoon, and Alternative Ultimate Dragon. Soul Crossing may have been a huge boost to the God decks but there still isn't a good way to search them. Idk why they're so afraid of giving them strong support, I highly doubt they'll be good enough to be meta anyway, so just go nuts. Slifer is completely reliant on Numeron and Obelisk doesn't have the support that Ra has. Just give them the same treatment as Gate Guardian and Flame Swordsman- give them actual support with a coherent strategy while still making the original cards relevant.
Idea retrain them with the names
Egyptian god obelisk
Egyptian god slifer/osiris
Egyptian god ra
Anime effects and they look like the dawn of the duel versions aka the true spirits of the gods
But they have a drawback they stay on the field as long as how many tributes (min3)
3turns 4 turns or 5 turns
Genius
Well, I don't hate them, since the deck (mostly Ra) is fun to play now with the new support.
But yeah, you're right, the cards are way too expensive for what they are and the deck sucks.
Maybe with its current power level it can finally beat Lightsworn. 🤣
The Egyption God cards are dirt cheap though. They're like pennies for a copy.
@@Devo2.0 The god cards themselves yes, but not their support cards like Ancient Chant or Guardian Slime. For a long time Ancient Chant was more expensive than Pot of Prosperity. 😅
@@dream4playz ahhhh. My bad bro.
Exactly. So the problem here is
Step one-Konami makes the god cards utter garbage
Step 2-player base buys them anyway because bro they’re the freaking god cards
Step 3-god cards are printed en masse to get every anime head his copies
Step 4-fix a problem WE MADE by printing support for these pieces of garbage and instead of the feeling that you’re wielding a god card you instead have a feeling that you are wielding a broken toy sword made of paper mache, that recently for a expensive ass fee can be outfitted with a metal case making the sword a baseball bat. And you paid like 5000 dollars for it. All the while you could have just bought a 500 dollar gun..
@@TheDuelingBeard Exactly, and it was a decision they consciencely made and not by accident. Especially in the time they came out: for 3 tributes you could give them a lot more. Their anime protection wouldn't have been broken whatsoever on a 3 tributes card. I mean Destiny Hero Plasma was already around and was way better than any of the god cards. To be honest: even with all their anime effects and protection they would've still been not very competitive when they came out. I'd dare to say that without its support cards Ra is worse than Arcana Force Light and Dark Ruler. I will give Slifer and Obelisk some credit for at least being better than those. But being better than Arcana Force isn't much of an achievement haha.
At the time the God cards needed to be powerful but not broken to the point opponents wouldn't be able deal with them. Also the God card couldn't be so powerful and easy to use that they became auto include staples especially since at the time they were the Konami wanted to keep the numbers of them limited. and if they were to become a staple outside of their own dedicated decks then that would have priced out players from playing in tournaments.
Fair enough but the question is would that be any different from any other set or card group in history? Like crush card, DAD, Minerva, and a million more examples. I think they just wanted money and didn’t want to deal with actually taking the time to design them well
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They made them so weak ,even man-eater bug is far more useful . I still don't understand why they would give 0 protection to monsters that aren't easy to summon at all , Dragoon is almost an anime egyptian gd with his broken effects and he is the easiest monster to summon . Hell i think he is even better than anime obelisk with his pop-burn effect, so much for balance . And he isn't even semi-limited (in the tcg at least)😂
Konami is the most inconsistent company ever. They just need to reprint them and upgrade them, give them the manga names and make new support, boom free money printer idea. Dragoon is wild, I love the card but it does make other anime support look so bad by comparison
We dont get any of this at all. You do realize that slifer has its second mouth ability and obelisk has the raigeki effect in their tcg versions right?
I do yes, the fact still remains that they’re shadows of their true selves
@@TheDuelingBeard the only fun use I've really found is playing one as a one of with friends in goat format games. Slifer and obelisk are great. Slifers atk reduction and obelisks targeting protection are insanely strong. Unfortunately though even in goat format ra is still absolutely horrible. For obelisk the only non targeting removal is mirror force, tribe, and torrential.and even with torrential you'd have to trigger it with another monster while obelisk is on field
Yugioh anime god cards - broken hard to kill monsters.
Tcg god cards - mid
Also, screw floo.
You’re being generous for the tcg god cards 😂 & floo isn’t that bad, just annoying but to be fair literally every good deck is annoying.
Powercreep is a bastard
It’s killing the game…
When i sea an egyptiaj god against me , i laugh with my eldlich in my hand . I just send that "GOD" to the grave rhen summon eldlich again and it cannot be affected hhhhhh elflich is more powerful than egyptian gods cards
😂 that’s hilarious
most of these complaints come down to the same players being bad at using them
Not at all, the cards are objectively bad
@@TheDuelingBeard no you never learned to get good with them. If someone can get to master 1 in master duel with neo spacians, it's clearly a skill issue
Sorry dude but before you do a video about something, try to do some research so you don't end up looking like an idiot. Obelisk CAN be destroyed by card effects, the only protection Obelisk has is protection from targeting.
Time stamp where I said he can’t be destroyed by card effects.