Range Rover real-world review and buyer's guide L322 TDV8
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Having owned & run 9 Range Rovers over the past 28years, here are my tips on what to look out for when buying a 3rd generation Range Rover (the L322, produced 2002-2011).
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I just bought my first RR, a L322 TDV8 exactly like the one you lovingly describe here. 118k miles for £7750, full history, runs an absolute dream. I know it’ll cost me to run, but with a realistic yearly maintenance budget, and very little depreciation, it works out over a few years about the same as a PCP Qashqai; and life is comprehensively too short for that s**t. It’s so nice to see this affectionate appraisal from an owner rather than Internet forums sniping about the reliability. Thanks for the video, Harry - and while I’m here, I’ve been an Evo lover from the start, so thanks for that too. Now off to eBay for 20” rims...
Ben Board how’s the RR working out reliability wise so far?
Any update?
Hi Ben, how has the car treated you over the last 4 years?
What d'you think 😨🔥😄
Loving this. I have a 2010 over finch and it makes me smile everyday. It's my dreamcar. No finance. No worries if it goes wrong it'll work cheaper than a new audi a3.
You talk about cars like some talk about good wine. Genuine passion.
David Martins. The difference with a good wine is that over the years they get better, and with RR it is completely the opposite.
He was not comparing Range Rover too wine ! He was making the point that this man's passion of mechanics is a part of him , and like a wine specialist he has an exceptional knowledge of that subject, so you were more concerned in thinking of how you could be a smart alec than to stop , and how wrong you were
@@jackblack1943 I think you have a reading comprehension problem.
Make it clear what you're trying to convey, because same again you're trying to be smart , but you aint pulling it off
@@jackblack1943 If you read carefully, you will see that my comment is directed to David Martins, and not to the creator of the video.
Now I explain: a good wine with the years is improved more and more (if the necessary care is taken). Not a RR.
My first RR, was a three door 1979, 3.5 engine, and then in 1983, and 1990 a five door. Both with a delicate engine, but with solution.
In 1994 and 1998, a five-door 4.6 (P-38), which for me, was the best produced.
In 2003, a 4.4 (L322), began my problems.
2006, I sell it and buy a VW Touareg 5.0
In 2013 I return to RR and decide to buy an L405, 5.0 L. Vehicle that I spend more time in the service than in my hands, with electronic problems of all kinds. Fortunately, I had not sold the Touareg (nor the P38 also, that I still have with me).
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The review reflects my ownership experience. Expensive to own... Yes. Best car I've ever owned... Yes. Would I buy another... Yes.
How much is expensive? Year basis?
agreed i've seen the repair bills on one
I keep seeing it's an unreliable brand. What I want is "expensive to buy" but "reliable." What gives with this brand.
@@cutdepiefails6596 when I had one, I had to pay 5k euro for repairs per year (2008 TDV8)
@@karol190PL how many km per year? Tires and brakes included?
It was pretty much down to this video that I bought my own 2010 Galway Green L322 TDV8 Vogue SE...and it is a truly an amazing vehicle, highly recommended.
Just bought a 4.4 V8 Diesel. This has the 8 speed box and hardly ever seems to go much beyond 1500 RPM. Smooth as a nut and quick. Kept the 19 inch wheels as I’m more into ride than sharp handling. Comfort wise is superb 👍🏻
Great review. I bought exactly this model at 100,000 miles two years ago. Now on 137,000 and it’s been fantastic for £12k. Exactly has Harry says, I’ve had a rusted through tailgate stay, a split turbo hose, a wheel bearing fail and I flushed the transmission oils when I bought it. Also EGT valves started to cough misfire and smoke on warm start. Did a digital delete with a new map that locks out the valve forever. Runs like a watch now and only cost £300. Mine tows, lives on a farm, has kids in it all the time and with a wash it looks really classy. Very very very good cars for the money.
Have a 2010 HSE, Buckingham Blue exterior with cream interior. 5.0L naturally-aspirated V8, extremely smooth. The ride is incredibly soft and quiet. Haven't had many issues other than basic maintenance pieces (knock on wood). The L322s are the most regal and classiest Range Rovers ever made, in my opinion. I love the big buttons; ease of access and functionality. 2006+, take care of them, they should last a long time. Understated elegance.
Great choice of model, NA 5.0 is a rare car in the UK..
Best color combo of any car. The Navy seat piping with the blue carpet is awesome
The L322 looks much classier. But is the L322 also smoother than the new L405? I think the new L405 looks like a Ford Explorer.
@@Fall-off-currencies I think the L494 looks like an Explorer. The L405 is the last Range Rover that looks like a Range Rover. Everything else now looks like an Evoque. I have a 2013 Autobiography Sport which I love, but when I'm done with it I'll be getting an L405.
19:37 for anyone querying reliability/maintenance, Harry offers great advice from this point.
I had a chance to live with a 2010 LR322, V8 Petrol, back in late 2012 up to early 2014. I was hired by this well-off family back in Massachusetts in late 2012. They've given me the task to ferry their children along in their Range Rover, I've taken it to rural areas and high elevations in New England. I was smitten by this model, not only by the looks but also by how it made me feel as a driver. Driving this model was nothing but a treat, although it had some issues like high maintenance cost. Anyhow, when my employers finally decided to trade it in with the LR405, I was sad to see the old Rangie go. Up until this day, I still think the Shape of the older 322 is more elegant than the current 405. Well, thanks for giving me this nostalgic video Harry!
I had a 2007 TDV8 for a year in Namibia. Best car I ever had in every aspect, exept reliability. Sand, rocks, gravel, tarmac. Its absolutely capable everywhere. And comfortable. It had 85 000 miles on when I bought it, with a full dealer service history. I spent about £6000 on repairs in the year I owned it. Gearbox oil gasket. EGR valve. Exhaust manifold gasket. Dampers. Brake discs. Brake pads. One morning I came into the garage ONE fog light shining. And the battery was stone dead. During my year of ownership, it was at the dealership more than with me. But its so excellent in all other ways that videos like this tempt me.
That's just sad am sorry for man but why the fuck did you bring such a car in Africa???! The cars element is in the British streets not the real field where other well built cars can survive adjustable air suspensions that's just a gimmick when you live places like Africa or near the bush
@@carholic-sz3qv but but, we drive them here in Africa all the time. Actually it's a perfect car for a largely rural area.
I’m on my fifth Rangie and bought it from a mate who.’d had it from new and did most of his miles between Kent and Monaco. It’s got 125,000 miles and nearly sixteen years on it now and it is a great piece of kit. Long drives to Scotland are effortless, towing heavy trailers a breeze, five adults on board for a run to the country no bother. The key is maintenance, look after it properly and it’ll look after you!
Had 4.4 V8 on a 2003, never had a problem with it apart from a gearbox problem which was just a switch that kept putting it into manual, easily fixed and was under warranty.
Drove to Marbella in her but went the long way over the famous Millau bridge and she was a dream to drive.
So you had the 4.4 BMW engine ?
@@Kassiusdayyep
Have had a few of these now, currently a 2012 model and really pleased with it. Yes they are expensive to run and maintain but there is nothing like them on the road. If you want the best ride you have to pay for it!
I just bought a 2012 RR Supercharged a few months ago. The supercharged engine is a monster. This was the last year before they switched to the new body style (at least it was here in the U.S.). Although I like the new body style, I do not like the interior (except for the panoramic sunroof). They got rid of all the buttons. The interior is way too austere. It doesn't seem as plush as the L322. I don't know why vehicle manufacturers are suddenly against having buttons on the dash. I think putting all the controls in the satnav makes it MORE complicated, not better. When you spend this much money on a vehicle I WANT buttons! I think the driver SHOULD feel like he's inside a cockpit on a vehicle this expensive. I couldn't see my self paying an additional $25k + for a 2013 or newer. Great video, love the British people's accent and vehicles!
vido4x4 the first time I drove a RR is like to be in pilot cockpit as you say all those boutons were special / should have kept them .. I was looking for the RR sport but the RR is more spacious ... !! Drive seat position is the best ...
This obsession with iPad style controls is unsafe and ergonomically ill-advised. Buttons are “learnable” and far easier to use on the move. The Volvo XC90 now looks bereft and unusable.
As usual another brilliant video. Thank god Harry goes this as there simply isn't a decent TV program any more.
I have had my 2004 l322 4.4 v8 petrol for just over a month now. Absolutely love it. Use it for work after my 2017 Ford Ranger broke down. Would definitely by another one . Such addictive cars
I first watched this review two years ago. Things have altered in my life, & I’m thinking this looks like a good choice!
It's such a pleasure to watch, you don't find car reviews like that anymore, sadly...
Great review! I have a 2007 with the 4.2 SC engine. Absolutely love it. Purchased in 2013 it’s a fabulous ride and I’ve saved loads of labor by doing most of the work myself. I haven’t paid the engine a second thought, it has 155k miles and only uses 1/4 quart every 5k miles. Always get compliments and the performance is superb. I’ve had the best all season performance from the Continentals. Appreciate your time.
Just bought the 4.3 V8 diesel. £11k. Has done 136k but full service history. What a lot of car for the money. I love the driving experience (my first Rangerover) and can't believe my luck. I am going to take your advice re the valves and the oils. Fingers are all crossed for a few years more without serious outgoings. All of your videos are so informative, and the great thing is you haven't got an ego. That's rare on youtube! Thanks
I've had a sport for years and as long as you keep on top of the little jobs and service regularily they're a joy.
Review is spot on. Done 118k miles in my late 3.6 TDV8 I bought at 30k miles. EGR valves, turbo pipe, tyres, brakes, alternator. Pretty good really. I'm keeping hold of it. Does everything really well and still doing 10k+ miles a year.
Still going strong? Do you get gearbox oil changed?
@@joshhaines6280 yes thanks. On 135k miles now. Yes, I had the gearbox fluid changed and the underside rustproofed last year and few bushes etc changed. It's a keeper.
Great informative video & an absolute inspiration indeed! Truth be told, this video & maybe just one other honestly, inspired me to purchase my very first Range Rover in December 2020. A 2010 Supercharged L322 Online from Miami Florida of all places. Full service history, one owner & with 88k on the clock. Straight from the comforts of home & wayy outside my usual propensity to over think & over analyze everything, i abandoned my comfort zone, found the truck & pulled the trigger! (Blame it on the pandemic) I then had it transported to Philadelphia Pa after a pre purchase inspection of course and I couldn't be happier! Santorini Black with a full black leather interior including the headliner with a piano black wood interior trim and not so much as a blemish, crack, chip, scratch or imperfection anywhere! Absolutely magnificent condition! I did however eventually have to replace the driver side power foot rail motor, the battery and an airbox underhood, but that's it since I've owned it outside of "regular maintenance". As amazing as the actual ride is and the 500 plus horsepower incredible, the feeling it evokes as it goes about it's business has a regal quality to it in my humble opinion. It's presence is & remains nothing less than statuesque even after so many years later after it's introduction. It so far has been all that I had imagined it would be as I had never driven one, but had adored the brand, especially the L322 from afar for so many a year. For me personally & especially, this was a truly risky proposition & something i had never done in the past, but totally worth it! Thanks again for the great insight & video Harry! Much obliged my friend. Respectfully. Roddy. Cheers!
Great story. Im literally looking at 2 different L322s that are based in Florida as well. One is in Stuart Fl...the other in Miami. I live in NY so I'd be shipping them to the Northeast like you did. And like you, this would be totally outside of my comfort zone. I usually need to touch and feel everything before buying it. Times change though I guess. Good Luck with yours. I'm sure it will work out well.
@@seancreighton8169 Good show Bro' and thank you much! I'd do it all over again my friend. I seriously wish you the absolute best with your search. Not a complaint to be had from me man. I did recently have to get the suspension recalibrated/reprogrammed to facilitate the proper leveling of the suspension at rest, (Something i wasn't aware was necessary from time to time apparently) but aside from that & what I've already mentioned, no major issues. It's amazing how this old stallion still turns heads almost everywhere i go in it. Hoping alls great with you & yours my friend. #respect 🤟
Cuff links with jeans and a vest. What a gentleman's farmer!
Its been a long day for me. Just sat down at the TV and this pops up. Brilliant.
Bloody Harry ! Just about convinced myself not to buy one of these, and now this - that's my Sunday sorted then trawling through Auto Trader.
2500 of reasons not to buy! RangeRover is 600 kg heavier than necessary... my Honda CRV tours circles around this tank..
Me too Steve! . . 🤣
He got me too! Just took deliv of a 2010 Range Rover Supercharged in Philadelphia Pa. Found it online in Miami and got it delivered today. Let the games begin! Lol! #cheers
@@RTBosch but you have to spend your time driving a Honda...
I've run a 2002 year L322 4.4 petrol V8 that's been converted to LPG for the last 12 months now and I'm going to check if the rear seat base folds up tomorrow! Very informative, although you didn't comment on LPG? Its on 166k miles and achieves 14mpg on a long run to work so with local LPG at 54 pence per litre thats equivalent to at least 28mpg. Its a touch quieter than diesel and I have an MOT pass this month showing ZERO co2 emissions. I'm saving the planet in this V8 once the temperature gets to a quarter & LPG switches on. It's not been a major money pit....so far.
Harry, it was good to meet you at the NEC Classic Car show on the FJ stand! Forgot to ask if you would consider doing a Lotus Cortina review? My Dad (a great fan of yours, ex-dealership manager,
now 83 years young and chair bound with Parkinsons) had a MK1 '66 SE back in the late 60's/early 70's and has always had sellers remorse. I tried tracking his down but it got exported to Oz in the 80's, so short of reuniting him with his old car, I know a video review by you would be the next best thing.
Would be great if you could!!
Keep up the great work!
Love my L322. Hands down best vehicle I've owned. Ages like wine too. Still looks very good compared to all the new new.
Cause this design is timeless and I also see it as a best looking car because the look us just plain simple ane not annoying like other complicated looking cars..
Thanks for a great chanel! Living in Southern Africa the Range Rover Vogue has always been a dream car. In my humble opinion the L322 is the pick of the bunch. The question I ask is how do you think it would fit in the Southern African context? Terribly degraded roads with giraffe swallowing potholes, badly corrugated and washed out gravel roads, wildlife and drunken locals crossing country and national freeways at night etc. To me it's the perfect car for long distance sales exec's, tech specialists and explorers. Would you agree? Do you think a an LR4 would be be beter? My heart is with the 322 tdv8 vogue...
Had my 4.4 V8 2011 Vogue for two weeks now, very impressed with the performance in the snow recently, still waring an enormous silly grin on my face
After every time I watch one of Harry's videos, I always want to own the car he's driving on the video!
I should loan him my BMW 760Li for a video.
Had a 2005 L322 once upon a time. Let's just say I was on a first name basis with my local Land Rover service professionals. Cheers Harry!
As my video points out, 2002-2005 models of RR are the ones to avoid. Need to go for post 2006, as they were the versions reworked by Ford and are very different cars under the skin.
+Harry's garage Absolutely. Thanks for the reply and for this wonderful show. Hope we get to see you with your hands on the new AM Vantage.
Harry's garage interesting to note how it takes Ford to deliver a solid motor! I ran a 2.0d X-type estate for 4 years and it was a solid motor, people mocked its mondeo heritage but it made for a economically viable luxury car running cost wise!
Harry-You need to stop bashing the manufacturer of this car.Thousands of people have the 2002-2005 and they work just fine.so before you slander cars and give unwarranted opinions, think and control your tongue.i have had LR before 2005 and they work just fine
touchy
A few comments on tyres. I use my Range Rovers off-road on farm tracks and muddy fields. I also use them for long motorway runs and towing a 3500kg boat. The best tyres have been the Cooper Zeon LTZs which have given over 40,000 miles and worked well in snow and mud. However, my current L405 is fitted with the new General Grabber AT3s and they are also excellent - being quieter than the OE Pirelli P Zeros and the same grip as the Coopers. They have only done 15,000 miles so I don't know how far they will go yet, but they still look like new.
I love the way this guys presents; I could listen to him all day! Certainly make me want to have a neb around autotrader
I love a car with a snatch rating 😎
dangerous game though
I d never heard of a snatch rating and I ve been reading mags 45 years.
Snatch?
@@davidmg1925you get it in the top shelf mags!
Interesting this video because even without Harry's commentary, the quality of the interior really shines through. No rattles on the video and notice the gentle body movements - indicative of the brilliant suspension setup. Also I like how he likes all the BMW switch gear from this era of car. It was always very good !
Reflects my experience, and although my right bank turbo failed after only a month (147K car), it is still the best car I've owned (including BMW750i), gives a feeling like no other. Living in rural isolation and snowed-in for a few days most winters, I do often use its 4x4 ability. Pre the V8, the diesels were underpowered; so, I jumped from my P38 2.5D straight into this, bypassing the 3 altogether. As I said to my good lady, for as long as I can only justify running one car, it will always be a Range Rover. I would only replace mine (2007 3.6 TDV8) with a newer one.
Great video, just to say I had a TD6 not the V8 diesel for 6 years and did 100,000 miles whilst I owned it. I had it stage 1 re-map and it makes it very drive-able, I had no problem at all with the gearbox or anything else for that matter it was a brilliant car and had 5 more since . So what I am saying is the TD6 is good as well
Bmw engine?
Beautiful video. My friend had a RR Sport V8 Diesel. The car had 420.000 kms (262.000 miles) and he always pulled a trailer. He imported cars from Belgium to Hungary.
His mania was to change oils before than need. Engine 8000 kms. And gearbox 15...
Once up on a time I went to Germany with him. After this "go and back" trip what was 2800 kms, I realised what this car it is. When I arrived home, the sound of my computer's fan disturbed me.
My sofa was not same cosy. I could not find a same quiet area like the Range. To drive my Suzuki Jimny was a nightmare.
Now I sold the car, the motorbike. I definitelly will buy a RR Sport V8 diesel. I have seen many time my friend's car, of course I knew it is cosy. But I did not know it is that much smooooth... I love good films, I like theatre, but now my favourite thing to ride on a RR Sport.
I've had my 2008 TDV8 for almost three years now and have done about 40000 km with it, starting out at almost exactly 300000 km when I bought it from a dealer in Germany. Saved about EUR 10k, that way, compared to buying one here in Sweden. I've driven it mostly on paved roads, but also in deep enough mud that I got stuck once. Actually so deep, that I couldn't open the drivers door in extended mode. But I got out of that one, in the end too after bailing out on the passenger side and throwing some wood in front of the rear wheels. Overall a reliable car, just as you say. The only real disappointment I've had with her, is that the rectifier bridge on the alternator threw in the towel two days before we were supposed to go on vacation. So I was stuck here in Stockholm, replacing the alternator at the parking place, while I sent the rest of my family to Barcelona by air. You're not supposed to replace it from the top, but with just the right amount of swearing and wiggling, it came out and the new one got in. All the pulleys and the tensioner for the aux drive-belt was also replaced. Earlier, just after I got her, I replaced a rear brake caliper and all discs and pads. That I'll just consider normal service items. Apart from that, no issues whatsoever. It got a MOT last Tuesday with clean papers. I don't completely agree with you on the 20" wheels, though. I've got 20" summer wheels (255/50-20) and it gets so much more bumpy on bad roads, compared to my 255/55-19 winter wheels. And I don't feel I lose that much in handling. A little bit more spongy, perhaps, but this car is more like driving a truck than a car, so I like it. Maybe it's some nostalgia from when I drove trucks for a living... :-)
(Footage [dashcam] from the getting stuck incident ruclips.net/video/m_nhQvX1Ddc/видео.html )
I hope people are pleased to see the Clio back in the garage 👍
Are you Harry's son? I know he's actually Charles Harrison Metcalfe, which made me wonder about your name...
Richard Harrold Yeah Harrys Name Is ‘Harry Metcalfe’ So I would presume that It is Harrys Son...
You may have spotted me in vids like the ‘lifting the fiat 500 to show how light it is’ or the ‘ride across the Pyrenees while dad had a brand spanking new Africa Twin that we spend a whole afternoon fixing while the rest of us were on vintage motorbikes which had no problems at all’
My daily driver is an ‘07 L322 Supercharged. It has just over 308,000 miles on it & runs great. If I were in the UK, Id have a V8 Diesel but here in the USA the Supercharged is just right. Nothing else rides like one.
The scenery around your home is beautiful
You keep comparing the car to a Bently. I actually feel the same way . I bought a 2008 8 years ago and it’s been one of the best cars I have ever owned. I’m having a hard time bringing myself to sell it. I’ve never owned a car for that long. Just purchased a 2017 black RR HSE to replace it with. Very smooth car. I might just have to be a 2 car RR owner. Decisions decisions. Great video.
Had one for 3 years (2012 model), makes you drive slower so you don’t get home too soon. No problems apart from rear washer that keeps getting blocked. Tried a V6 sport but no competition. Long trips regularly get 33mpg up to 37.
That's better than my 2008 e63 630i 😂
First car I saw and fell in love with was when I was 14 back in the 70's. Bought a 2006 TDV8 3.6 litre RR Vogue in 2009. It was midnight blue with a cream interior. Best car I ever owned. Had to sell it because of the ULEZ charge. Still miss my RR. Thank you Harry.
Nice vid Harry always been a fan of the L322. I think it became a much better looking car after the 2006 face-lift, you're very right they're not cheap to run, i know a few people who have owned them and they've all had something go wrong, usually the gear box, though i attribute this to that "sealed for life" nonsense, so i agree you really have to change the fluid. The other major failure is always the air suspension, seems it's not the bags themselves but the compressor most of the time. All problems aside they really are a wonderful car, it's just about buying one that's been looked after so service history is key. That EGR valve at £800 is expensive, but to put that into perspective a friend just had one go on his Passat estate by no means a luxury car and that was £400, so regardless they're expensive to do. Looking forward to the next video.
The 07 - 08 years are probably the best to go for . £5000 should get you a half decent one here in 2023 . Fuel costs aren’t too bad , Road tax is £695 which is a bit high but if £13 a week is a make or break then a TDV8 probably isn’t for you .
Drove my pre-owned (1st owner, all maintenance done by the dealer) 2007 3,6 TDV8 without any trouble for 20k+ miles and to this date it is the only car I seem to miss. Did off-road stuff nicely as well, no complaints whatsoever. Everything one could ask for in a car.
Great review! I bought my RR 4.2 SC 2007 in 2009 and still own it. I have replaced everything in this car except the engine since then ;) 360000 km. Love this car!
Transmission replacement as well?
3rd time I’ve seen this video, first time since L322 ownership. Spot on.
Another great video Harry. Just watch the focus on the interior stuff. Read a comment on here about Harry's driving. Sorry, but I can't agree. He appears courteous (giving way on the single track road) and very observant (checking what the other cars intentions were when pulling out of a junction). Harry is obviously an extremely experienced driver and road tester, so used to driving lots of different vehicles. Sure, he enjoys his driving (I had to laugh when he left the camera car behind accelerating away from a junction!), but not once did I think he was driving incorrectly or dangerously.
Thank you for a great review Harry: I came through the Land Rover family; 1st Freelander, 2010, then RRS 3.0 Diesel, no problems at all; both did about 80-85K km's; decided to up to 2015 RR 4.4 SE Vogue 13 months ago; was always worried about reliability issues; but your review really sets my mind at ease; and also makes me realize what a great vehicle I own; stay blessed.
This review inspired me to buy a L322. Got a 2011 4.4TDV8 and I absolutely love it
You had any problems with it bud? I’m looking at 2010-2012 4.4
@@louiehorsley5351 had it 18 months now, only major issue was on the suspension - £1,200 worth of work. I’d say that’s not bad for 18 months and 17,000 miles driven
@@joer9643 not bad at all , so many people try to put you off land rovers but there’s nothing like them , think I’ll be taking the jump. Cheers
@@louiehorsley5351 good decision! Let me know how you get on chap.
Great video as ever sir - loved my L322 (same colour as yours too) - had to finally let her go 3 weeks ago after a number of expensive issues that the local specialist seemed unable to resolve - in the end all sorts of weird noises, had to have the turbo reconditioned, replaced the transfer box, etc, etc - last couple of years I spent well over £5Kpa just keeping her on the road - hope she'd do better but finally traded her in at 108,000 miles and it felt like it was on her last legs....gutted to see it go (but the high VED cost, terrible fuel "economy" and ongoing issues made it a no brainer compared to the nearly new Hybrid E-Class Estate I swapped it for). Love Range Rover though, agree with all you said about the ride quality and especially the visibility...brilliant family car and I hope to have another in the future.....all the best - TMF
Hi TMF. Do you know what the official name for this colour was?
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What is the colour?
I don't know the official name for it I'm afraid....since I left that comment 4 years ago I bought a very late low mileage L322 - its the 4.4 V8 and its so much better than the V6 in every way...just sayin'
@@TheMissendenFlyer ok, thanks anyway for the reply.
As an ex Range Rover owner, all I can say is that you have been super lucky to have few issues. We had two at the same time, his and hers, what a mistake! They were rarely both on the road at the same time.
by far the best and my favourite car themed channel,i enjoy watching every video
Videos like this are such a joy. A proper car guy. Top Gear and Fifth Gear are such a yawn. Give me a choice of a day at the top gear track or a day with Harry and Harry wins by a mile. Looking forward to the next video
Hands up
Who watched this,then went over to eBay and typed in range rover tdv8,to see what's available.?
A Fool With A Tool Exactly what I did!!! Glad to know I’m not alone - for the kind of money Harry is talking about makes me think why not - just because.... not sure the wife thinks the same way..... :(
Me ! A pal of mine had one of these as a business vehicle, but it was attrocially unreliable. He then bought a Disco III and found it to be almost as nice to live with , but much more reliable. Shame really.
Yeah me too :D i was about to buy a Mercedes GL / Audi Q7 / BMW X5, but this beauty came to my mind.. So next week this will be the new one :)
Hands up who actually bought one? Oh damn thats me talk about the power of suggestion.
Not me I'm afraid.
Brilliant review Harry, I would trust your opinions over any of the current professional car reviewers around. You really are a proper gent, who doesn't need to show off by buying new cars and understands what people need to know about a car.
I must say I can completely agree with everything you said. Over the years we have had around 25 range rovers starting from classics moving through p38s and onto l322 and used them around the farm. I agree in saying that the td6 is what it is ( its okay, But really it is worked hard and has a weak gearbox). The 3.6 tdv8 are overall an extremely good car and really good value, Your right about the EGR valves ( had to rebuild an engine because of it ). The 4.4 tdv8 is surprisingly quick and great for towing but the one thing I don't like about it is the grill, its getting very bling bling if you know what I mean. Every person that owns a RR should have one of those hand held computers for bringing up the vaults the codes, but once you get used to towing, going off road and using the Range Rover as a tractor/ all rounder you will never go back to any other 4x4. They really are great at everything and fit in anywhere be that in the farm yard full of dogs going off for a days work, going to a black tie ball or just cruising down through France on the highway to the sun. The best 4x4 by far.
Speaking of which, currently sitting in a mates 2011 4.4 using a glove and cable ties too try and reattach one of the linkages for the left wiper blade, the joint has worn and it has becoming disconnected (common fault) happen to an old td6 I had years ago as well
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I don't understand?
VRdelivered I have red that Petrol engine is more reliable than diesel ( and which one BMW vs Jag ? ) do you have any experience about it please ? I rather to pay more and drive greener somehow ..thanks .. !
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I DON'T PICK A FIGHT OR DEBATE WHICH IS THE BETTER 4X4 SUV. INSTEAD, I BOUGHT AND DRIVE FOR MANY YEARS, 10 YEARS ALREADY AND STILL ENJOY DRIVING THIS, A RANGE ROVER P38A MODEL 1996, AND THEN TWO FORD EXPEDITION MODEL 1999 AND 2006, A NISSAN PATROL YEAR 2005, A MITSUBISHI PAJERO MODEL 2015, A MITSUBISHI MONTERO MODEL 2017, AND A TOYOTA LAND CRUISER LC 200 MODEL 2015. I LOVE THEM ALL. I AM TAKING CARE OF THEM LIKE MY WIFE AND CHILDREN. MY SUV'S ARE ALL ROADWORTHY CONDITION AND VERY CLEAN AND SHINY, TOO, HUMBLY SPEAKING. MY BEST WISHES TO HARRY! CONTINUE TO BE A PURVEYOR OF WHAT YOU BELIEVED IS RIGHT!
One of my fav cars that I've ever owned... brilliant review of a true great!
What an absolutely delightful chap. Really enjoyed this video; well-presented and clear to understand without the jargon that most of us wouldn't be familiar with. Excellent!
My 2006 runs and rides beautifully. Just had to put in new AC compressor at 165K miles - for a California car where AC runs 80% of the time, it's lasted extremely well. A few scuffs on the driver seat, and cup holders, but otherwise looks like new. My boss got in a few years ago and asked when I got a new Rover - it was 10 years old when he asked. Some Rovers seem to be problematic, but mine has been extremely reliable. I will run it into the ground - don't see any reason why it won't go 250K miles and still look/run great.
That's been my experience too. I do wonder why people love to tell you about any issues they have with a car but those that don't have any issues, never bother to post! Thanks for watching and telling us about your longterm experience running one, good to know I'm not alone.
The l322 Range Rover is a majestic machine and epitomises what the brand should be. I have been lucky enough to experience them myself and there really is something special about them.
When everything is working they are imperial, when something is not right they are a mistress nightmare! I have a black 2003 4.4 and the previous owners have sunk thousands into it replacing all the bits you expect to go bad at 100,000 miles....Mine's on fully sequential LPG and you cannot tell when it swops from petrol to gas. Costs less to run than our Audi A2. Cannot find any decent mechanics, so do everything myself. I'm teaching my little boy about mechanics at the same time;)... Great video Harry, thanks; Where is the fun in continual reliability?
I applaud you! Unlike you I am not mechanically minded - and nor, it appears, were the mechanics of my 2003 4.4, especially after her botched conversion to LPG. The car was a nightmare 90% of the time. I finally threw in the towel and replaced her with a stunning 2011 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography, which (knock on wood which I carry around for this purpose) which has been almost trouble free. So far. ;)
I have a 2006 Range Rover Sport, and that does have Anti-roll bars on the suspension, and I can tell you it really does make a difference. It drives just like a brand new Range Rover after I put new Continentals on it
Please do a real life review of the L405 Harry, think a lot of your viewers would be interested 👍🏻
Hi Harry, Can you do an Update video on the L322? Absolutely love this review - would be good to see a more up to date “how its getting along” review on it!
Great video Harry, I've always had a thing for Range Rovers. I had a classic about 25 years ago, never had an issue with it. The internet is full of people who "know" what cars are good and bad, but it's good to hear from someone who owns one. I've read elsewhere about reliability being better from 2006 / Jaguar engines onwards. I'll have another one day. Cheers, Drew
Yes all myths, I also had a RR for 3 months, drive it for 6000 km absolutely bulletproof
Going to pick up my 1st ever RR 2009 3.6 TDV8, I’m very exited! Thought your video was great. Thank you for taking the time to make it 🙂
Love this shape, new ones look like boats.
Recently bought an l322 tdv8 overfinch. Easily the best car I’ve ever bought it does absolutely everything. My fuel economy is 29mpg average on mixed roads. It’s smooth quiet and powerful and so easy to see why they are so desirable.
I'm at the point where, there's nothing better..& everyone complaining about maintenance costs, if you go German, if will cost much more, if you go Japanese, longer gaps between repairs, but when it does need it, similar cost. you might as well buy what you love..and whatever you love in life, will cost & take effort to keep it.
Sorry, but in the U.S. you are absolutely wrong. Most German such as Audi and Mercedes have slightly lower maintenance cost than this Range Rover, and the overall ownership and maintenance cost of Toyota are FAR less than this.
Rang Rovers are great, but they are expensive.
1st class review - straight forward simple facts. Just bought my first TDV8;L322 and apart from it blowing both turbo boost hoses in the first 9 miles it has been a dream. Just subscribed - thanks again
Very slick looking 4x4. My favorite year for this vehicle. Great vid, Sums it up nicely.
I love the IDEA of a Range Rover. Great off road, awesome space, great tailgate, excellent ride. It’s just the reality of Range Rover I can’t live with. The thousands of dollars in repairs, when things go wrong, the bits and pieces of tech that can go bad, etc. it’s a shame, they are gorgeous!
I've had my 2008 Range Rover TDV8 since 2 Years. Never had any problems.
The 2006 TD6 I bought in 2008 had so many problems. I would always take the V8 over the 6 Cylinder.
Also the Interior in the TDV8 is better in my opinion.
Good honest review. I had one of the earlier (2004) petrol V8 with the BMW 4.4ltr engine and it’s was fantastic. Ran it to 115000 miles with no issues, and it had (8 years ago) good parts OEM parts availability. Still a good looking car, but yes satnav well dated. Moved to supercharged version and wow!. What an experience but 15mpg too rich for my pocket.
Thanks Harry, thinking of the 3.0 for fuel reasons, didn't expect the 3.6 to be better on fuel.
Best review so far. I just picked up a 05 L322 and it’s lovely with only 120K miles also bought for 4K USD
Cufflinks! Harry, you're the best. Always enjoy riding along watching your reviews. Many thanks.
I got mine 8 weeks ago. I thought to myself on the Friday I'm going to buy a Range Rover L322 TDV8, on the Monday morning I thought crikey I've got a Range Rover L322 TDV8 but seriously it's the best car ever with just 96, 000 on the clock. 2008. I've had all the oils and filters changed, two doses of diesel treatment and the tank full of premium fuel. Runs a treat and I'm ready for any problems I may encounter. I don't push it and let it warm up slowly and cool down slowly. i also have an LR3 WITH 200,000 miles on the clock.
That model is exactly the one which i've always wanted.
what year is this
My last RR was a 3.0 diesel and I can confirm that it was slow and noisy. Pressing the throttle to overtake meant more noise but very little more go. It was very well built and never had a single build issue or fault in the 40k miles I kept it. I know that the front pinion shaft was an issue at that time but I was lucky and sold it in time.
That pinion shaft was a factory recall, you could have gotten that changed and fixed for free..................
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Yes, when they were about six years old after massive pressure from customers and consumer organisations. Before that and once out of warranty, there were at least two years, possibly more, when the early ones were refused. They had to pay and were only eventually reimbursed by a kicking and screaming company. This left many very bitter and dissatisfied customers.
I've (only) had 5 Range Rovers and numbers 3 & 4 were L322s: 2004 V8 Vogue and 2010 TDV8 models. Both were excellent and did 186k and 112k miles respectively. Weakest points were all components, by (mainly) German manufacturers: Radiators (4 replacements), Water pumps (x2), Air suspension pumps (x2), Fuel pump (outrageously expensive), Alternator (ridiculously expensive) and ignition coils.
The BMW engine was cheaper to run because BMW parts were about 40% cheaper than Land Rover parts. Some OE parts (e.g. Bosch radiators) were half the Land Rover cost.
If your RR is more than 4 years old have it serviced by a LR specialist and use OE parts from the manufacturer - not Land Rover - and your running costs will be less than half that of main dealers.
The secret to not breaking down is to have it serviced regularly by someone who recognises a component about to fail.
The best? Probably the 2010 TDV8 - it was better built than my current 2015 L405 and felt more 'classy'.
The worst? Easily the 1998 P38 - poor ride, cramped cabin, rust magnet and very bad electrics.
The one I regret selling? the 1993 model - a true 'Classic' and I would love another one...but only for shooting and events.
Thanks for that. Very useful info. Trading up from Freelander 2 shortly.
P38 Rust magnet? don't think so. I'm on my third p38 - no rust anywhere. Little bit of bubbling on the lower tailgate lip maybe. L322, just like Harry's one - rust on the rear arches for the simple reason that the wheel arch liner doesn't extend to the outer lip of the arch - so stones fly off the tyres and hit the bare arch. Why they didn't carry over the proven approach from the p38 I will never know.
Gavin am saving money want to donate abit for a good cause?
What a great video. It just goes to show that Harry doesn’t need to be in a 200k sports car to find good and bad features, he can do it with passion in what is in reality a relatively cheap car
Having driven several 'Rangies' I can honestly say that the 3.6 V8 is probably the best I car I have had the privilege to drive. Surprisingly economical (or maybe that was just the size of the fuel tank?) and by far the most comfortable vehicle.....Don't expect to be able to do the twisty stuff when you compare it to say, the Cayenne diesel but otherwise just an awesome vehicle. Unfortunately, as with all 'high end' luxury 4 X 4's maintenance is expensive and when issues arise, having then fixed is the same. Think Harry is right in advising against buying the BMW produced diesel.....but generally a great car...
Malcolm Young Indeed. When you realise that same BMW diesel was also available in the 3 series weighing only 1.6tons you do go Hmmmmmmm
Good stuff Harry, honest and comprehensive as usual. My L322 is an early one, 2002 with the 3.0 litre BMW diesel and I get 27mpg and it still pulls like a train after 140,000 miles. Got the rust at the rear door/wheel arch junction but otherwise it’s as sound as a pound. Paid £4,500 for it two years ago and I reckon I’ll get all my money back when I sell it later this year after we finished our house building project! Can’t beat that and I agree with you, it’s hard to look at a newish Rangie at £70k and think it’s worth the money compared to a good L322 TDV8!
Another fantastic review which I going to prompt too many hrs of Autotrader searches. Love you Watches as much as the cars I hope you review your collection one day.
Me too
I just finished watching the review of the Bentley Bentayga. I’m amazed how this was at the time THE must luxurious SUV you could buy and now it looks positively utilitarian in comparison! This Range Rover is still luxurious in my book but the difference is pretty striking.
Great video Harry. My thoughts; I suspect you would still need to maintain it like the £60k+ car it once was, but half the interval time and carry out preventative maintenance.
I had a 2007 one and loved it. My friend bought one and had nothing but problems with it and what he was paying to keep it on the road frightened me. In the end decided to sell it on before I had similar expensive bills. I definitely miss my classic range rover and sought of miss my 2007 one.
I listened to every single word of that video. Really enjoyed that 👍🏼
Split turbo hoses is a classic, as noted by Harry. Had that myself three times on the same vehicle, due to pipes being misfitted by the dealer. Electric park brake fails often. Also suspension compressor. I've had power steering failures too. Harry's right: it's not a cheap car to run. It will be off the road for several weeks a year. But when it works, it is unmatched, and that's why people keep buying them.
@05:07 "That real mechanical feel"
*rattles like British Leyland car*
But great video Harry!
Harry, I was so relaxed wile watching yet another flawlessly brilliant video. I could feel the Wafting! Nothing like it after a long day at the office!
Make sure you get it with a "bumper to bumper" warranty
They're exclusively available for Doug.
stop repeating the same rubbish you hear from watching videos made by unemployed adolsecents
'Unemployed adolescents'
Please stop arguing under my comment. Get yourself a private chat and offend each other there, please.
Barney B you seem angry, have you tried camomile tea before typing ?
This level of buyers guide is what sets your videos apart from others 👍🏻