Range Rover Classic re-engineered by Kingsley. 5.0litre, 300bhp & £170,000 but is it worth it?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 фев 2022
  • The Range Rover Classic by Kingsley is a fully re-engineered Range Rover powered by a new 5.0litre Rover V8 pumping out 300bhp. But how can the finished car be worth £170,000? Watch the video to find out.
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  • @rob_lightbody
    @rob_lightbody 2 года назад +524

    The rattling would drive me up the wall if I'd paid that much. That's exactly the sort of thing that I'd have thought would have been improved over the original. Also wouldn't want it lowered, the imposing height was always a big part of the appeal.

    • @VolV8
      @VolV8 2 года назад +28

      £170k for the non-squeaky model?😹

    • @overlandvan
      @overlandvan 2 года назад +29

      My original one doesn't rattle like that, it is still on air though which does help.

    • @rcoveyduc
      @rcoveyduc 2 года назад +20

      "Re-engineered" doesn't mean reliable apparently lol.

    • @jamble7k
      @jamble7k 2 года назад +25

      yea creaky dash is pretty bad

    • @WalterGalindo
      @WalterGalindo 2 года назад +29

      Yup the rattling was very very off putting, on that alone is not worth the money they put into it, devil is in the details, they messed up by giving Harry that Unsorted rattlecan, now everybody knows.

  • @ianstoys13mgs
    @ianstoys13mgs 2 года назад +332

    For the money you would have thought they would fit a suitable rev gauge to show the 7200 rpm limit !

    • @Petrospect
      @Petrospect 2 года назад +45

      That is a pet peeve of mine on amateur tuner cars, let alone something you paid that much of a premium for.

    • @Carrera-gp9od
      @Carrera-gp9od 2 года назад +69

      The whole dashboard is a bit of a joke to be honest , squeaking and rattling .
      It looks horrendous too ,surely they could have something a bit more bespoke for 170k ?

    • @Lee-eu6wf
      @Lee-eu6wf 2 года назад +1

      that would be a nice addition

    • @Petrospect
      @Petrospect 2 года назад +18

      @@Carrera-gp9od I think Matt Farah from the Smoking Tire would call it "inherent shitboxness" and something you can't quite fix in a classic unless you spent serious money. Well....you are, here and yet it persists.

    • @VinderGroup3
      @VinderGroup3 2 года назад +4

      @@Carrera-gp9od a fair point, but it’s the original car redone and that’s how it looked. The rattling and squeaks actually that’s probably how it sounded too!

  • @trevindavid289
    @trevindavid289 2 года назад +263

    If I were a customer (which I am certainly not) , I would have a heart to heart with Kingsley's quality control director. The leather work in particular is below standard at this price level.

    • @alanward4506
      @alanward4506 2 года назад +23

      I saw the back of the drivers seat as well,not that I`m in the market but I wouldn`t bother.Overfinch if I could.

    • @markgilbertson1564
      @markgilbertson1564 2 года назад +19

      No idea who would actually buy this over a modern version. The trim looks dreadful.

    • @teamtoken
      @teamtoken 2 года назад +24

      lol isn’t the dogshit build quality in keeping with the Land Rover Tradition?

    • @trevindavid289
      @trevindavid289 2 года назад +2

      @@teamtoken not at this price. It better be frickin' perfect.

    • @user-qn6yt3zx3w
      @user-qn6yt3zx3w 2 года назад +1

      Adjusted for inflation, the price hasn’t changed!

  • @djwnakata9406
    @djwnakata9406 2 года назад +47

    Can’t beat seeing Harry ‘driving it like he stole it’ at 21.00m. All while doing about 50mph. Brilliant. The price of this car is absurd though.

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 2 года назад +2

      I know. Seriously if you had the money would you spend 170k on one? I’ve gotta say i dont think i would?!

    • @michaelcallummayaka
      @michaelcallummayaka 10 дней назад

      Yes it was epic.

  • @MrJimmyjammmy
    @MrJimmyjammmy 2 года назад +195

    Is this worth £170k absolutely not. Is it worth spending 30-40k resurrecting your old one? Quite possibly.

    • @subarnosinha8042
      @subarnosinha8042 2 года назад +8

      Ground up restorations, that too with a significant amount of craftsmanship involved and modifications are never cheap when you figure that they also have to recoup the investment in the machinery and other stuff. Case in point: Singer, Guentherwerks, Alfaholics etc.

    • @ComeJesusChrist
      @ComeJesusChrist 2 года назад +21

      @@subarnosinha8042 Your examples are at a completely different level. Singers used to be much cheaper, but even those cars had stunning level of attention to detail and technological updates. Not saggy leather, creaking dash, poor shock absorbers and non-functioning buttons. £170k is a mad and greedy price for this.

    • @liammccarthy2304
      @liammccarthy2304 Год назад +1

      @@ComeJesusChrist I completely agree! I look at the £170k price tag and wonder where the money has gone. Especially when some electric conversions out there are costing less. It's not everyones cup of tea, but at least you can understand money has been spent on it. I can't believe that leather trim passed quality control.

  • @ydnallah1541
    @ydnallah1541 2 года назад +271

    The classic shape is a really great design that still looks good today,
    the seats seem to be a bit rippled, the bag stowage area leather trim is a bit ropey too, I would be sending it back at £170k

    • @losslessification
      @losslessification 2 года назад +58

      First thing I thought, £170k for baggy seats and a plastic dashboard. Really not worth it.

    • @hovnojede010101
      @hovnojede010101 2 года назад +42

      @@losslessification 170k and the tach goes up only to 6k, too. Not very difficult to make a new cluster at that price point.

    • @ianmedium
      @ianmedium 2 года назад +19

      And at 170K I would have hoped they could sort out the noisy dashboard as well!
      I actually prefer the previous dash to this one, much simpler and elegant looking and no ford cast off windbag steering wheel! I actually preferred the cloth option back then, looked much nicer than the leather I think!

    • @cmb1972
      @cmb1972 2 года назад +19

      the seats look like Stevie Wonder cobbled them together from some PVC in a rush.🤣

    • @tayne5009
      @tayne5009 2 года назад +32

      Is used to own a Range Rover Classic and I quite like both the idea of a fully rebuilt Range Rover and this particular spec of green outside with beige leather inside.
      However, the rattly dash, non-functioning buttons, incorrect tacho, ripply seats, missing rubbing strip, under bonnet insulation and the cubby box lid make me wonder what else they’ve cheaped out on.
      My money would be elsewhere.

  • @Rust_in_Time
    @Rust_in_Time 2 года назад +7

    Powersliding a Range Rover through the B-roads of Burford - only on Harry's Garage!

  • @jamesdonoghue5907
    @jamesdonoghue5907 2 года назад +15

    I had a ‘93 3.9 back in the 90s and loved it. The air suspension was great, when it worked.
    I’d prefer just a fully sorted one rather than a sportified version like this.
    Thanks for the vid, brilliant as always.

  • @RS-zb5cj
    @RS-zb5cj 2 года назад +328

    Sounds like Harry is thinking of restoring his old & original RR…. I vote ‘yes’, enthusiastically … it would be a great next project .

    • @lucian6395
      @lucian6395 2 года назад +5

      But he said he was thinking about it 5 years ago in his last range rover classic video

    • @Czechbound
      @Czechbound 2 года назад +12

      Check out the Irish RUclips channel "Soup Classic Motoring", and you find his episodes and a summery video of his full restoration of a 1991 RR. It's nut and bolt. Very interesting, and he uses very cool timelapse

    • @JR90.
      @JR90. 2 года назад +3

      1000% agree.

    • @lucian6395
      @lucian6395 2 года назад +2

      @@Czechbound yeah I've watched a good chunk of that

    • @dan3092
      @dan3092 2 года назад +2

      Is it a real Overfinch Conversion or just a sticker

  • @GarryMcGovern
    @GarryMcGovern 2 года назад +84

    With the greatest of respect to them, but for £170k, the retrim on those seats is truly shocking. The retrim on the seats of my old Morris Minor Pickup restoration is far better...... and I've never even given them a second glance! Wow, I think they need to send their trimmer to Specsavers!

    • @utubecomment21
      @utubecomment21 Год назад +5

      "the retrim on those seats is truly shocking."
      It's looks like the leather on Michael Jackson's face! This is a 20-30k conversion ... tops! £170,000 Kingsley are taking the urine!

  • @bcosVic
    @bcosVic 2 года назад +2

    The large greenhouse interior (lower window sills, smaller pillars) is also the beauty of older vehicles. Thanks

  • @TJC156
    @TJC156 2 года назад +307

    £170k for a Range Rover without proper air suspension and crashing and banging from the cabin is simply unacceptable. Lovely bodywork, interior and engine but even still….

    • @trainman665
      @trainman665 2 года назад +15

      I suspect they don't expect them all to be driven like this. I'd rather have the original air setup. Yes it rolls about but that's part of the charm. I quite enjoy mine (not currently as it's waiting for an engine rebuild).

    • @JDStoneCreations
      @JDStoneCreations 2 года назад +27

      I don't even think the bodywork is that good. Paint yes, that looks lovely and shiny, but the shutlines are as bad as the original and could have been reengineered with new door skins to just tighten them up a few mm to an acceptable standard that even an Austin Allegro beats 😂
      Even the interior isn't that great with the same dashboard as an old discovery with plastic stick on wood and wrinkly leather!

    • @trainman665
      @trainman665 2 года назад +3

      @@JDStoneCreations It’s real wood! I think it will look wrong if you try and shut the panel gaps.

    • @jamesdean514
      @jamesdean514 2 года назад +15

      Yeah I thought the cabin rattle is terrible for that money who ever is buying them have too much money

    • @jamesellsworth9673
      @jamesellsworth9673 2 года назад +4

      Harry points out that each is bespoke: mods can be made to the suspension. For a bit more money, who knows what else good could be on offer?

  • @mbizozo6271
    @mbizozo6271 2 года назад +90

    The rattling would drive me nuts after spending that kind of money🙃

  • @mikeyb9819
    @mikeyb9819 2 года назад +14

    I owned a few of these cars and loved them. Why manufacturers (all of them) have subsequently felt the need to make their cars bigger and bigger, particularly wider, is beyond me. This car is plenty big enough for most requirements, it fits into most domestic garages and, as Harry demonstrated, doesn’t even mind a multi storey car park. By the way, if ever there was any doubt, Harry is clearly a very accomplished driver - those bends, phew!

    • @gottliebdee263
      @gottliebdee263 10 месяцев назад

      I'd wager they have done FAR more research than you.
      They need to pack in more equipment, dissipate more heat, account for bigger people, (that have more stuff), and also be safer while carrying all this extra gear.
      No way they'd make them bigger if they didn't have a reason for it.
      Maybe those that build car parks should catch up with the world?

    • @TSERJI
      @TSERJI 8 месяцев назад

      @@gottliebdee263 the size of the classic range rover still has a special place in my heart b/c it's the perfect size, greenhouse-like visibility, high driving position, good amount of space for 5 people and their luggage, and still not a pain to park in a typical parking garage. Sure, people like big cars and such big cars should be made, but there's a place in the world for cars this size too (exemplified by the crossover market today). This was a 'large' SUV when it first came out, but nowadays its smaller than a Rav4 or CRV, except in height.
      I think such a vehicle, but with a more robust engine for better towing, or even an EV version to improve its reliability, would prove incredibly popular today.

  • @markbillington5985
    @markbillington5985 2 года назад +3

    A braver man than me Harry, throwing it into that right-hander!

  • @tocsa120ls
    @tocsa120ls 2 года назад +82

    To be completely frank, it's a bit rough for a 170k car... the leather is wrinkly, tucked under, switches with no function and a very obvious dash rattle. And the transmission could very well use some work, there is no reason lockup can't be used on lower gears with a more modern TCM that are available today.

    • @mrc7966
      @mrc7966 2 года назад +11

      My exact thoughts as soon as I saw the leather. Terribly trimmed. Makes me wonder what else they're touting as premium which is actually not.

    • @autobahnroadtrips4662
      @autobahnroadtrips4662 2 года назад +4

      Fully agree on the build quality.
      Would be OK if they asked 70 or 80k, but certainly not for 170k

    • @alexandrecouture2462
      @alexandrecouture2462 2 года назад +7

      I suspect that the transmission slips. Yes, old automatic trans did a little bit what he show, but never that much!

    • @hardergamer
      @hardergamer 2 года назад

      Why have they not set it up with sports and eco mode, or cruise control, driving like this over a long distance will get very tiring.

    • @hardergamer
      @hardergamer 2 года назад

      @@alexandrecouture2462 It's the extra revs, 4.5k to 7.5k on this one, much too high RPM for this type of car, you would feel like you're racing all the time.

  • @blankblank124
    @blankblank124 2 года назад +119

    £170k!? That is ridiculous...

  • @MrTimeless101
    @MrTimeless101 2 года назад +3

    Did I just see an old Range Rover drift around a corner. 20:58. Harry you're a wild man 😆😆

    • @andymckane7271
      @andymckane7271 3 месяца назад

      Damn good, read professional, driver Harry is! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.

  • @samsungandroid4715
    @samsungandroid4715 2 года назад +4

    Two remarkable cars: 13:23 Firenze Red Freelander ll facelift and 15:20 1971-72 Bristol. Great video.Thanks.

  • @rampanttwattery4844
    @rampanttwattery4844 2 года назад +168

    Lovely old thing, however at that price the quality of the reupholstering on the back of the driver seat is simply unacceptable

    • @karlx19
      @karlx19 2 года назад +19

      Have to say the leather work didn’t look that great to me

    • @paulie-Gualtieri.
      @paulie-Gualtieri. 2 года назад +15

      @@karlx19
      It's actually cheaper to get a full retrim from Connolly with their superior leather.

    • @Czechbound
      @Czechbound 2 года назад +3

      Hear hear.

    • @ThePorkypete51
      @ThePorkypete51 2 года назад +1

      @@paulie-Gualtieri. I thought Connolly had closed down?

    • @invertedev8799
      @invertedev8799 2 года назад +2

      Have a look at the leather dash in our Tesla powered Range Rover Classic. Far beyond this and what you’d expect at this price point. More details coming soon - instagram.com/inverted_ev/

  • @freddiejones4598
    @freddiejones4598 2 года назад +120

    Seems like a crazy price to me. Each to their own I guess

    • @Boric78
      @Boric78 2 года назад +7

      A lot of money to ruin a car.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 2 года назад +13

      @@Boric78 They haven't ruined it - they just haven't improved it very much, at least not as much as you'd expect given the insane price.

    • @gro9465
      @gro9465 2 года назад +1

      Someone must be pocketing minimum £140k for each one...

    • @resjon7981
      @resjon7981 2 года назад +1

      @@gro9465 more like pocketing 167k.

    • @gro9465
      @gro9465 2 года назад +1

      @@resjon7981 Yes could be. Apparently there are fields of rotting Range Rovers used for the "renovation"...

  • @timcollins380
    @timcollins380 2 года назад +3

    LOL, Harry at 20:59 just fanging it around that corner. Only Harry, that's why his channel is just compulsive watching, brilliant. I would love one of these but that suspension would ruin it for me. Give me the old fashioned Range Rover galleon handling. Great job Harry!

  • @manesse7
    @manesse7 2 года назад +3

    The depth and subtleties of this review proofs, if any was needed, why it's so enjoyable to watch Harry's Garage.

  • @eatmyledify
    @eatmyledify 5 месяцев назад +1

    Once again a fantastic car drive, no stupid music in the background. Just pure engine sound and road. Cheers mate always a pleasure watching.

  • @benpenagonzales6014
    @benpenagonzales6014 2 года назад +203

    Let's see how it goes round this corner - Harry absolutely wanging it round like its a BTCC! Lol! Made me laugh 😃

    • @akaDavidWebb
      @akaDavidWebb 2 года назад +15

      Confirmed: Harry clearly has balls of steel to take the corner at that speed or ultimate confidence in the product.

    • @joelsmith9311
      @joelsmith9311 2 года назад +22

      That made me burst out laughing too - "let's see how it goes around this corner" and I swore out loud as I watched him lobbing that thing into the corner on the edge of adhesion! Hilarious, gotta love Harry. :D

    • @Rasscasse
      @Rasscasse 2 года назад +4

      Very spirited way of taking that bend!
      Bloody marvellous 🤩

    • @peterbustin2683
      @peterbustin2683 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, on public roads, too.

    • @user-ut7zu7gk8l
      @user-ut7zu7gk8l 2 года назад +3

      “Drive it like you stole it” should soon be replaced with “Drive it like Harry”

  • @edwowen
    @edwowen 2 года назад +28

    Agree with other comments, the finish just isnt good enough for 170k.

  • @TheTripleDubya
    @TheTripleDubya 2 года назад +4

    Long been my favorite Rangie, I’d be happy to get one for ease of use and style. In Australia they used to rebuild and supercharge the 3.9, if memory serves it was called a Vitesse motor, the less traditional owners used to fit old school Moroso and Donovan Chev motors, wild times in the late eighties and nineties.

    • @michaelcarey299
      @michaelcarey299 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for that info I'm going to check it out because my 2 door has a 3.9

  • @stephane_edouard
    @stephane_edouard 2 года назад +6

    Can't stop staring at the F40 in the back

  • @olis_garage
    @olis_garage 2 года назад +9

    5:55 - the state of the leather on the back of those seats!!

  • @lrcb40
    @lrcb40 2 года назад +29

    For 170K it rattles more than any of my Rovahs did! I had a 95 Classic and have 3 x P38s. Totally on point review!

  • @RABBITMIXO
    @RABBITMIXO 2 года назад +3

    I remember in Australia in the 1980s and 90s everyone swapped the original motors for 5ltr GM motors which made them more reliable, faster, more economical and cheap to maintain. They were easy to find for 15 000 to 20 000 Australian dollars!

  • @grahaigh
    @grahaigh 2 года назад +6

    The original 3.9 Range Rover wasn't as slow as Harry said at 16.49. The specs he shows on screen are for the diesel model. Great video. I really want one, but I can think of 170,000 reasons why I won't be getting one.

    • @buckryan8652
      @buckryan8652 Год назад +1

      I'm glad somebody else clocked that too.

  • @tiguanman1170
    @tiguanman1170 2 года назад +42

    £51k to do the restoration on the Jag which has clearly been done properly and £169k on this one which obviously hasn't been. Leather seats wouldn't leave Iain Tyrrell's looking like that and I doubt the dashboard would rattle either. Harry, restoring yours would make excellent video and I'd either give it to either the Jag or Zagato restorers. I reckon they would do at least as good a job for much less £s. That auto 'box is a joke. No way that's reasonable today for that money. Other options must be available. The positive? Fantastic colour!

    • @robertcarless7445
      @robertcarless7445 2 года назад

      Yes, I want to know the colour ..... mlppks very merc to me

    • @V4nh4K3ttu
      @V4nh4K3ttu 2 года назад +1

      Agree, my Land Rover Series 2A has seats upholstered better than this one.

    • @reinmansmith
      @reinmansmith 2 года назад +1

      I agree entirely, the quality control is abysmal. The bodywork may look gorgeous but the interior!! Unacceptable at that price 🤔

    • @j3652
      @j3652 2 года назад

      @@robertcarless7445 it looks like Ardennes Green to me, could be Brooklands Green

    • @erichh4144
      @erichh4144 2 года назад

      Exactly you could have a top notch professional restoration and just throw an ls in like they do with jensens and everything else anyway, have more power and a properly functioning transmission for a fraction of the cost.

  • @franciscoop1063
    @franciscoop1063 2 года назад +71

    So let me get this straight....£169,500 and it rattles like a basket full of crockery whilst you're driving?....really?

    • @octane_tim
      @octane_tim 2 года назад +3

      and the suspensions are a bit shite

    • @alfamonk
      @alfamonk 2 года назад +6

      Well Harry did drive the Countach with a gearbox full of swarf for 12k 😂

    • @paulshavulimo
      @paulshavulimo 2 года назад

      That thing is horrible for that price..

  • @danielmarshall4587
    @danielmarshall4587 2 года назад +4

    "lets see how we get on in here" NOW THAT IS A CAR REVIEW. Many thanks Harry this is lovely. "Getting it round the dial" good good stuff.

  • @slartybartfarst9737
    @slartybartfarst9737 2 года назад +5

    Was superb in its time, I ran one for 3 years back then. Wind noise, fuel consumption, noisy hyvo transfer box, creaky interior, wiring harness gremlins (water ingress, on an offroader!) and yes the rusting tail gate. Despite all that it was brilliant but for modern driving if the fuel and emissions costs dont get you the crash protection might and at £170K my Rose tinted glasses have just steamed up.

  • @matsuri626
    @matsuri626 2 года назад +125

    That's some proper driving! I was actually scared when Harry attacked those corners with such strong steering wheel inputs, but he kept it there and that re-engineered sport suspension obviously deserves credit too. A regular Range Rover would have wallowed away into the bushes, or at least would have looked seriously scary hanging on through the turn. My biggest let down is all those rattles; I wouldn't be able to live with that, especially not at £170.000!

    • @ryanfried8393
      @ryanfried8393 2 года назад +8

      Me too

    • @gamersquadlifestyle
      @gamersquadlifestyle 2 года назад +4

      The rattles are the compromise you make for it being good in corners, although I still don't think it's worth it, I'd rather still have Air suspension

    • @GPR111
      @GPR111 2 года назад +2

      Thats the difference between a driver who thinks they are actually a good driver ..... and somebody who really IS 🙂

    • @andymckane7271
      @andymckane7271 3 месяца назад

      @@GPR111 Harry is obviously an excellent driver! As far as I'm concerned, he's as skilled a professional driver as I've ever seen. Andy McKane, Manunaloa, Hawaii.

  • @martj1313
    @martj1313 2 года назад +92

    Got to admire the balls on them for asking 170 grand for a polished turd.

  • @scottgreen6523
    @scottgreen6523 2 года назад +7

    Great review as always, Always loved the RR since my dad’s first one in 77. But £170k and it squeaks and Rattles like that. No thanks I’ll put up with the 10” extra width and an extra £70k in the bank I think.

  • @Kennethah81
    @Kennethah81 Год назад +1

    Harry is the only car-reviewer I´ve ever seen that takes the car into an actual everyday situation: parking! More of this please! :D

  • @ric355
    @ric355 2 года назад +81

    The classic range rover is a fantastic piece of design and I've always loved it since the first time I set eyes on one. However, anyone willing to pay £170k for one clearly has a screw loose.

    • @lucian6395
      @lucian6395 2 года назад +7

      For a 170k, id have atleast 10 standard classics, not one of these

    • @BigPotatoChill
      @BigPotatoChill 2 года назад +12

      So does the dashboard with all that squeaking.

    • @guyhancox4246
      @guyhancox4246 2 года назад +6

      And before long there will be several screws loose by the sound of it.

    • @VolV8
      @VolV8 2 года назад +3

      Hence 16 screws per rear lens cover 😘

    • @resjon7981
      @resjon7981 2 года назад

      I would not even pay 17k for one let alone 170k!

  • @tommyhunt7492
    @tommyhunt7492 2 года назад +39

    I actually have been to Kingsley cars, and found them to be pretty rude and the quality of their finish poor.
    I have a 2 door range rover classic (which I love).
    I since went to a different garage who specialise in RR twentyten engineering, awesome guys there and... randomly turns out twentyten engineering made the original resto mod for Kingsley cars I think it was a white 2 door... who then marketed as their own....🤣

    • @edh7492
      @edh7492 2 года назад +5

      This comes as no surprise, what a bunch of absolute con artists…

    • @-DC-
      @-DC- 2 года назад +2

      Went once to view a vehicle I certainly won't be going back, Absolutely horrible attitude pre sale doesn't bode well for any issues post sale.

    • @sallhame
      @sallhame 2 года назад +2

      2-doors are the best looking ones. Mine has a 4.6 converted to 5.3 with T-top liners and fuel injection. From RPI.

  • @morgman43
    @morgman43 2 года назад +1

    25 minutes of Rover V8 goodness. What an absolute joy to listen to.

  • @kevinblaylock9883
    @kevinblaylock9883 2 года назад +4

    I've owned 3 Range Rover classics, the final one was the soft dash. All 3.9 short stroke engines. Fantastic car and the size was perfect by comparison to the later generations. Off road they are extremely capable vehicles, far superior to l322 l405 models that followed.
    Thanks for sharing Harry!👍

  • @phil955i
    @phil955i 2 года назад +21

    That amount of torque converter slip would drive me crazy

    • @Rugbyman269
      @Rugbyman269 2 года назад +3

      Oh they all do that sir

    • @_chipchip
      @_chipchip 2 года назад +4

      Yeah this isn’t how they are supposed to operate. Some flare, sure, but that’s a lot for a V8 with 4 gears, even if it does have quite a high rev limit. Suspect poorly matched converter?

    • @alexandrecouture2462
      @alexandrecouture2462 2 года назад +2

      @@_chipchip I also suspect a slipping transmission.

    • @steve_troy
      @steve_troy 2 года назад +6

      @@_chipchip Correct - there is something seriously wrong with that trans/converter setup. I suppose it's hats off to Kinglsey for recreating the terrible build quality of the original into their nut-and-bolt restoration.

    • @GreenShogun
      @GreenShogun 2 года назад

      @@_chipchip it's normal for an old 4 speed box

  • @royd72
    @royd72 2 года назад +39

    I really don’t understand why anyone would pay 170k for one of these, I’d take a new one and the change

    • @pj9375
      @pj9375 2 года назад +2

      Yep

  • @j3652
    @j3652 2 года назад +18

    Oh Harry, you've owned enough of these to know you can change a bulb with 4 screws.
    Each rear lens has, as shown, 4 short screws which secure the lens to the housing. Then there are 4 long screws which secure the light assembly to the body. The side reflectors might need a little slack in the rear screws if it's a tight fit to the lens, but I've never needed to do that to change a bulb.
    Otherwise a great review.
    That 170k Kingsley one has as many rattles as my 5k daily driver. Not sure about the value for money they're offering!

  • @andymckane7271
    @andymckane7271 3 месяца назад

    I love Harry's driving style! He drives this Kingsley Range Rover harder than any other Range Rover I've ever seen drive on paved roads. Keep making such wonderful and interesting videos, Harry! P.S. Read many of the comments from viewers when this review was listed at 460k views with 2 years since being placed on RUclips. If I noticed correctly, the Range Rover Harry is driving has something over 100,000 miles on its odometer. This probably a "Press vehicle," and, as such, has been driven very, very hard by many drivers who have vastly less skill and ability than Harry does. Thank you for such wonderful videos, Harry! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.

  • @Me-ri2ke
    @Me-ri2ke 2 года назад +83

    Surely it’s would’ve been possible to fit an air ride system to the car instead of a system that makes it rattle and creak. Some of the leather seems to of been poorly finished aswell.

  • @christophernewman5027
    @christophernewman5027 2 года назад +5

    As an ex-Bristol employee, l've been hoping for years that you'd have a Bristol for a drive, Harry...

  • @Endureromex
    @Endureromex 2 года назад

    Please Harry, even if your motorbike videos are not the most popular, motorbike enthusiasts are the most loyal. Please continue catering for us.

  • @eieghn
    @eieghn 2 года назад +1

    I'm amazed that the old BOP (Buick-Oldsmobile-Pontiac) aluminum 215ci V8 kept going on into the 5.0L in the Kingley Range Rover.

  • @SilentRacer911
    @SilentRacer911 2 года назад +32

    I’d love to see the dash rev out, but if they wanted a sport suspension, put sport wheels/tires too. Choose a purpose

  • @supercomp7078
    @supercomp7078 2 года назад +4

    Harry, the other thing I like about classic 4x4s is, they are not pretending to be a sports car, the suspension is smooth and compliant for long trips, no rubber bands for tyres, some of my work colleagues prefer my classic 4x4 to much more modern 4x4s as it is so comfy, you don't pick up the harsh road surface and you don't notice speed humps as you go over them without slowing down, freaks out the boy racer behind you as he did not see it, I can see all 4 corners, A pillar's narrow, big windows, sit high up for great visibility, are you learn a few things with age.

  • @vokstar
    @vokstar 2 года назад +1

    Showing the modern Range Rover next to the classic did show how much bigger modern cars are, but the really telling comparison was in the carpark when driving next to a Mini Clubman. That Clubman looked massive.

  • @andrewpayn2754
    @andrewpayn2754 2 года назад +3

    Love the variety of cars you feature Harry, superb!
    It’s striking how much bigger cars have gotten these days though, parking next to the micra was quite a surprise in comparison!

  • @jjefferyworboys8138
    @jjefferyworboys8138 2 года назад +15

    Good luck to Kingsley, a timeless classic with a modern twist and the ability to have it built just for you.
    One of the things I like the most about classic cars is their size. When will manufactures realise that overly large cars are a pain in the arse.

  • @ianmedium
    @ianmedium 2 года назад +16

    I owned a completely clapped out series one back in the eighties. I bought it for five hundred pounds and drove it into the ground around the Devon lanes. What I loved about it and this one was the glass house. So much visibility which is wonderful along high banked country lanes. This classic now is my favourite version. The new ones are great but far to fancy and slick for my tastes.

  • @thejarvis4474
    @thejarvis4474 2 года назад +1

    I had a ‘92 Vogue for three years back in the early 2000’s and absolutely loved it. Dropped in a TVR 4 litre and then ran it on lpg. It was still a ruinous way to do 20k miles a year, but 17 years on I still miss it.

  • @guyheath9855
    @guyheath9855 2 года назад +4

    We rebuild the old Defenders, if any of them have the slightest squeek or rattle it gets investigated until is found , they go out the door tighter and quieter than a new car.
    How kingsley can let that out the door with that price tag is baffling.

    • @andymckane7271
      @andymckane7271 3 месяца назад

      If I saw it correctly, the odometer reading during the brief moment Harry had that part of the dash in focus, showed something over 100,000 miles. I also noted that the initial start-up this Range Rover did each time Harry fired it up, was a bit on the slow side. This suggested to me that it's been awhile since this particular Range Rover had its last tune up. Finally, this vehicle Harry is showing us appears to be a Press vehicle, which, undoubtedly, has seen lots of hard use. All this, for probably well over 100,000 miles since Kingsley did its full restoration. Great job, Harry! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.

  • @ingomeinert7889
    @ingomeinert7889 2 года назад +4

    Hi, I was working as a student for an agency transfering press cars for Rover all over Germany. Coming as a 21 year old from driving a used Golf it was a impressive experience to drive a Range. I have spend a lot of time and several thousand miles at the wheel of Range Rovers Classic onroad, offroad, with trailer etc…. Still today driving a hugh variance of different - mostly rental SUV I still compare the drive experience with what I have had with the RR classic - and the biggest compliment I can give a modern SUV is that it feels like a RR classic. Have also spend some ( basically a lot of ) time in the later version I was impressed about the miles munching ability of that car in perfect quitness and comfort but - sorry - the imperfect magic was gone.

  • @drivingthought5983
    @drivingthought5983 2 года назад +17

    170k for a car that clatters and bangs along the road like an old scaffolding lorry is laughable. Perhaps a little over driven too at times I’m afraid to say which further highlighted it’s downsides.

  • @d23bw
    @d23bw Год назад +1

    Baggy leather aside, this is a wonderful iteration of a Range Rover. The glass house is one of my favourite aspects of this motor. Writing as a GR Yaris owner.

  • @SB-vb8ch
    @SB-vb8ch 2 года назад +2

    The soft dash wasn't re engineered for the RRC, that was the first application & it went into the fscelift Disco as they are actually pretty much the same car under the skin. Doors etc are a bit different but the main under structure is the same. The term engineering seems to have been applied liberally to this bht not sure where the engineering actually is?

  • @seanpratherful
    @seanpratherful 2 года назад +11

    The leatherwork on those seats is a joke for 170k.

  • @maxnex7676
    @maxnex7676 2 года назад +6

    Kingsley are taking the mickey, £175,000 for shake, rattle and roll, bump stop suspension, some instruments not working and the leather finish on the back of the front seats not done by a professional.

  • @tuopeeks
    @tuopeeks 2 года назад +6

    Don't think my unrestored 95 Classic rattles as much as that one, however, it wouldn't hold a corner at that speed either. Interesting to think of it as a small car now. It felt huge in the 1970s but partly from the turning circle, so it not really better in tight carpark.

  • @VituMV
    @VituMV Месяц назад

    Thank God for the men building and keeping these vehicles roadworthy and more. Trully great people. Keep at it gentlemen.

  • @richardstamper5630
    @richardstamper5630 2 года назад +15

    Old tech which when modified drives worse than the original.....great! I could think of a R E A L L Y long list of cars before ending up here.

  • @axispowerdiesel
    @axispowerdiesel 2 года назад +37

    Even though the enduro bike videos didn't do as well I loved them Harry, need more!

    • @ololiver92
      @ololiver92 2 года назад

      It depends on the suspension set-up selected, but yes I couldn't live with that ride.

    • @patrickkloosterman7129
      @patrickkloosterman7129 2 года назад +1

      Agreed!

    • @stillben
      @stillben 2 года назад

      second that. he rides his bikes like he drives his cars, something else!

  • @davidgrover2665
    @davidgrover2665 2 года назад +1

    Another great video Harry - thanks for bringing us such interesting content!

  • @DavidMSA
    @DavidMSA 2 года назад

    Range Rover Classic, the best multi-purpose-vehicle ever build. Not to big, not to small. Nice engine. Beautiful ride, comfortable interior.... I know what I'm talking about, I had a 3.9 back in the days.

  • @chrisglover2133
    @chrisglover2133 2 года назад +6

    £169k and rattles like that; poor. Also, the stupid suspension kit specified on that one, that removes one of the best attributes (air suspension) and it even bottoms out on the road- madness.

  • @chrisglover2133
    @chrisglover2133 2 года назад +28

    Leather retrimmed but already looks saggy on the side and back of the front seats.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 2 года назад +14

      Yep, embarrassingly badly trimmed for a six figure car.

    • @vanwandererx852
      @vanwandererx852 2 года назад +4

      I'm sure they would kindly fix that issue if they are told.yeah for that kind of money it is unacceptable but it is still a handmade car.

    • @paulie-Gualtieri.
      @paulie-Gualtieri. 2 года назад +5

      It's a great idea but not at that price. Any competent Range Rover/Land Rover specialist, can upgrade the suspension and mechanics, for far less, then interior retrim and full body restoration and respray.
      I've seen it all done to a high standard for less than 60K.

    • @leelaters3717
      @leelaters3717 2 года назад +4

      Yes I noticed that. Just looks a restored classic to me. Can’t see why it’s worth £170k.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 2 года назад +1

      @@vanwandererx852 they shouldn't let it go out the door in that state.

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 2 года назад +1

    Sadly it's old an school Range Rover, that's why it clatters and bangs around like a Austin Metro. It has a big lump up front and a posh paint job, you would definitely need rose tinted glasses to spend all that money on one. Great video Harry, keep yours as it is.

  • @Elliott74
    @Elliott74 2 года назад +16

    Love the looks but those creaks and rattles would embarrass an 80’s Sierra, the way this resto mod scene is going there will soon be an classic Allegro being offered, a snip at £50k 😅

    • @saxon-mt5by
      @saxon-mt5by 2 года назад +1

      Never mind an 80s Sierra, a 60s Herald would be embarrassed by that many rattles!

    • @Elliott74
      @Elliott74 2 года назад

      @@saxon-mt5by 😂😂

  • @Conservator.
    @Conservator. 2 года назад +5

    Kingsley 5L V8: 280-300 HP.
    BMW B58 3L straight 6: 335-375 HP (imperial)
    The Kingsley V8 has however 488 Nm torque while the BMW inline 6 has 400 to 500 Nm (at much lower rpm)

    • @tamasszabo8824
      @tamasszabo8824 2 года назад +2

      What is your point? The B58 is a turbo, the other engine is naturally aspirated.

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 2 года назад

      @@tamasszabo8824
      I think this V8 is outdated and a waste on more than one aspect.

  • @URL906
    @URL906 11 месяцев назад +1

    Harry's Garage this is the best Range Rover rebuild to life . thanks team harry I look forward to seeing more this classic Range rovers clips

  • @Iseenitall
    @Iseenitall 2 года назад +2

    Re-engineered u said? They forgot about plastics inside. Sounds like it’s falling apart😁
    But the appearance and sound of that cars is amazing!

  • @jeffhardylysia
    @jeffhardylysia 2 года назад +20

    Cracking video as ever Harry. Love old rangies, especially retromod ones!

    • @runescapebanker
      @runescapebanker 2 года назад +1

      A very Wallace & Gromit comment. I love it!

  • @jamespink4202
    @jamespink4202 2 года назад +14

    Great video but I can't get my head around £160k. The unresolved suspension and the fit/finish of the original components are an issue. I also think 7200 rpm would quickly grenade the motor!

    • @blacksquirrel4008
      @blacksquirrel4008 2 года назад +1

      Those blocks were being stretched at 4 ltrs, I can’t imagine how thin those cylinder walls are.

    • @hardergamer
      @hardergamer 2 года назад +1

      @@blacksquirrel4008 They use a newly cast block and heads.

  • @benmarshall787
    @benmarshall787 2 года назад +1

    Great video Harry, nice practical test in the multi storey. I think as others suggest you'll be having yours done to your spec. Look forward to the next one. Ben

  • @corrieb74
    @corrieb74 2 года назад +1

    I have an old LSE rotting in the garage like Harry's. More motivation to get it out and fix it!

  • @michaelporter8485
    @michaelporter8485 2 года назад +5

    How can they justify the price 🤯

  • @leelaters3717
    @leelaters3717 2 года назад +25

    As much as I love a classic and I’ve had a few, I can only say You would have to be mental to part with £170k for one of these.
    For that money I’d expect a modern LS engine, not a reworked 40 year old one. It will also be as unreliable as ever and proberly leak.

    • @quwers
      @quwers 2 года назад +1

      Isn't the term modern LS engine an oxymoron? Isn't the appeal of an LS in it's simplicity.

    • @taylordooley3765
      @taylordooley3765 2 года назад +1

      at 170K, I'd expect a modern transmission as well.

    • @jimes256
      @jimes256 2 года назад

      An lt4. Silly money

    • @JamesSmith-vz8yr
      @JamesSmith-vz8yr 2 года назад +2

      Yes, proberly.....🤣

    • @leelaters3717
      @leelaters3717 2 года назад

      @@taylordooley3765 Totally agree.

  • @lipadier
    @lipadier 2 года назад +2

    I just watched 17:30 a few times, and I'm sold. 😄

  • @kapilachandrabharathi7134
    @kapilachandrabharathi7134 Год назад

    Owned a RRC. Love the way you look down on all road users😊 such a beauty

  • @starkhorn2626
    @starkhorn2626 2 года назад +33

    It is certainly not worth that much money, but how do you put a price on sentimental value?

    • @theseb1979
      @theseb1979 2 года назад +4

      Well, you throw some darts and come up with 170,000.

  • @Z-u-m-a
    @Z-u-m-a 2 года назад +6

    Just lovely. Would have that in a heartbeat over any version of the latest one.

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 2 года назад

    Next on Harry's Parking: we feature for perhaps the first time, a car where "it really isn't anything at all about the driving" It's a £170k bus pass, Harry. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @seanfoster1980
    @seanfoster1980 2 года назад

    Loved watching this RR Classic take the corners like it was being driven by James Bond. Thanks for sharing this really cool restoration

  • @apostolis2939
    @apostolis2939 2 года назад +8

    Cars have gotten much bigger but the roads haven't, if anything they've gotten smaller, it's almost comical that what was considered a big car is now the size of a compact car (a classic rr is shorter than an a3 sallon,and much narrower).I think it's also one of the reasons that Jeep was succesful in europe compered to any other american brand, it offered cars that fit our roads.

    • @vibingwithvinyl
      @vibingwithvinyl 2 года назад +2

      This is very much true. My old Saab 9000 CDE was considered a large car back in the day, used to transport executives and ministers etc. but these days it seems quite small even compared to a modern VW Jetta.

  • @heidelbergaren5054
    @heidelbergaren5054 2 года назад +4

    If a reliable Rang Rover is worth £170.000 there surely is a business case for the Ineos Grenadier

    • @Cous1nJack
      @Cous1nJack 2 года назад

      Justifies its £48000

  • @utubecomment21
    @utubecomment21 Год назад +2

    This is a 20-30k conversion ... tops! £170,000, Kingsley are seriously taking the urine! That leather trim looks like the same leather that plastic surgeons used on Michael Jackson's face!

  • @leighmartin9841
    @leighmartin9841 2 года назад

    You've a proper set of plums hurling the Rangie about like that Harry- hats off.

  • @oldbenz3123
    @oldbenz3123 2 года назад +12

    As others have noted the leatherwork looks below par - more obvious from the still photos on the Kingsley website than on Harry's video - rear seats do not look properly stuffed, front seat backs loose and loose leather in the rear. The Suffix A car on sale on the website has a much more bespoke better finished interior - stitched leather dash and center console rather than the standard plastic fare here. I bought a suffix A from the first year of production a few months ago that Kingsley had restored some years ago to close to standard spec. I think I made the better choice to be honest but I was looking for the 1970 pure look and have accepted that we were less cosseted then.

  • @V8Bluebottle
    @V8Bluebottle 2 года назад +6

    About those rear clusters, four of the screws hold the lens on to the cluster, the other four attach the cluster to the car. So, depending on which four screws you undo, you can take off just the lens or the whole thing.

    • @harrysgarage
      @harrysgarage  2 года назад +1

      Didn't know that, thanks for the info

  • @francisdavey2386
    @francisdavey2386 2 года назад +1

    It was or is the best RR ever.Not sure i would pay that much but the basic model is soemthing that will go up and up in value.Thanks Harry superb as ever.

  • @toomanycars4800
    @toomanycars4800 2 года назад +6

    How on earth have they made that rudderless barge turn like that? 🤯 Very impressive! Can't say the price really speaks to me, though.

  • @jonathandilk5722
    @jonathandilk5722 2 года назад +4

    Can’t believe that for 170k they couldn’t get rid of the rattles and squeaks, I’ve got the next model on P38 it rattles squeaks is nasty to drive but only cost £1k so people must have more money than sense…. Sorry only my opinion