MORE HP ON $400 DRIFT CAR x TUNED ECU AND M50 MANIFOLD
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Just did this to my 330Ci, excited to see how it turns out. Just need to get a tune for MS45.1
Loving every second of this build!
Nice upgrade. I have always seen this manifold swap improve things i believe it bumps power as well as the throttle changes.
Love SLG I did their dual caliper mounts and m50 kit on my e46. Great stuff!
Glad you ended up going this route man! the m50 manifold does make more power yes but most importantly changes the power curve to be more linear vs the booboo m54 manifold which uses the lame disa to try and achieve something similar. It doesnt really feel faster prolly because your diff is still the same and is still limiting factor in its performance. I dont really think ive ever seen the same type of WHP bump 3.0s get from this mod .. the 2.5 just dont have enough flow. look into one of those china pedal boxes that allow you go full beans on the driveby wire throttle bodies, and while your at it maybe upgrade (and retune) to the m54b30 TB and maf which is 3.5in (unless your car is a 04+ then it will already have the larger maf) .should get you some more flow and maybe sqeeze out a few more horse puppies. anyway get better soon bro ( fistbump )
My brother and I just finished this project in his 99 328i and it wasn't that bad! The larger engine definitely benefits more as it was an immediately noticeable gain, even without the tune!
He ordered a tuned ecu and it was super delayed but I had an idea; remove all emissions stuff from the "old" manifold, make sure all the electrical is connected but just bundle the stuff up and zip tie it to the dispstick tube. Even the Disa valve is just flapping in open air. Guess what? No engine codes, more important no limp mode! I bet it will eventually ask why the hell there's no evap system pressure and pop a code but that's a temporary and easily erased code through his android head unit.
Perfect for a Cali setup. Easy to switch back. I been looking for a kit like this.
Can't believe Cali even looks under your hood to make sure it "looks stock".
@@iGNUiCould yea they have you go to a smog place, you pop hood they check and go underneath the car to check for cats also. And read you car pollution out out or sum shit.
I can vouch for the 3.91. I just ran my first event with that ratio and it is literally night and day different. Granted I’m in an e36 but I’m sure it would be spicy in your car too. Poor man’s supercharger lol
You not the 1st person to call it the poor mans supercharger, I opted for the 3.64. which motor you running in the e36?
@@ninoanthony7990 Bone stock m50b25 and it absolutely fucking shreds. May be the best mod I’ve done so far
@@Chattsteezy i’ve got an M52TUB25 and i’m gonna manual swap it and i’m poking into difs. Should I just swap it to a 3.91 while i’m doing all of this? It’s gonna also be a budget drift car just to learn and until I get the money for something spicier lol.
@@WhosJohn I say go for it. It wakes these cars up so much and gives them the power they desperately need down low so bad
I love the new garage cam lmao the old outside set up was Inferior😤
Keep it coming!
Dream garage with a pro car parked in it . Winning my guy
Awesome vid! Can’t wait to see the difference at AVS!!!
Hoping to see the bushings upgraded 🤘
i love how m52 intakes are like 20 bucks and the m50 intakes are 150-300 bucks. people must really be looking for these
Das sieht sehr gut aus 🙂 denk mal über eine Schaltwegverkürzung nach!
You can add m54b30 cams if you find them at the junker.
To be fair, rally road made the hose kit and SLG charges like $100 more for said kit.
To be fair, the hose kit fits like garbage regardless of who made it. Buy the throttle body adapter plate if you can't find it somewhere else then get the needed hoses from Bimmerworld. Take SLG for exactly what thier name is.
The kit fits well tbh. I had to cut down the boot about a 1/4 due to clearance of my throttle body, but other than that it's good. Just overpriced.
I have an SLK230 Kompressor in my backyard. Has a clutch pulley Eaton compressor on it. Turns out. Fuck your AC compressor. Wire that supercharger with a switch, adapt it to mount in place of your AC compressor, and it’s a fun little setup. M50 intake, S50 injectors, headers, it’s for real pretty fun.
Also. I did this on my E46, M52B25TU
Na is the way to go man .less breakage less heat
I just did a M50 manifold swap on my 300xi. The m52 m54 is much a fun engine
so true
i took a few fuses out for the Abs system and I feel like it gave it little more pep went from not chirping the tire in second to chirping
I didn't like the idea of the stock injectors spraying at the wall of the intake. originally, I ran a Bosch ev1 injector rated for 24lbs @ 3 bar from a volvo but I couldn't find dead time specs or anything like that so i was unable to properly tune them. I found some Bosch 12 hole multi-port or split stream injectors that very closely match the flow of stock. stock for the m54b30 are rated for 22.6lb/hr @3 bar and the injectors I'm using are rated for 22.8lb/hr @3 bar. i also ran the m50 manifold and m50 fuel rail cover for a cleaner look. i just used the return side of the fuel rail to add a little liquid filled fuel pressure gauge. I also bought a block plate to bypass the m50 rail mounted fuel pressure regulator. the part number for the injectors are Bosch 0280156151. also since I didn't want to port my head because ill have to return to stock manifold for smog there is a seller on ebay who offers a port adapter plate but you'll need to port match the m50 side with a dremel yourself. another note i have it tuned to use the electronic throttle body to meter air to idle the engine and deleted the idle control valve. i used the port on the back of the m50 manifold for an e36 style ccv and fabled up my own little bracket to secure it. on a final note i used my stock air cleaner and found a silicone elbow that reduces from 3.5" to 3" to fit the maf and straight on to the throttle body. ill probably post up a video next week when i actually get the new injectors and swap them out. if anyone reading would be interested in it maybe consider subscribing
Mike seems pretty legit
Yo check out SLG oil pump kit too. Oil pump nut backs off at high RPM... P.S. Mike is a really cool dude!!!
It likes to back off on 3.0l because of the vibration not soo common on smaller displacement m54 🙂
i live in cali and just got reffed few days ago it suks got pulled over for no front licence plate and i guess he seen my gauges and asked if i had any modifications done lol
👌🏼 straight
merhaba emme hava sıcaklığı sensörü m50 manifoldda nereye montaş ediyorsunuz kaç edet sensör montaj yapıyorsunuz ?
Did you port match the head to manifold? I wanna stay N/A w/ OEM look as well lol
Dude micah, I got the slg kit for my e46 3.0 and I’m struggling bad. I might just be an idiot but how did you get the maf to fit in the boot?
Have you switched the stock injectors to the purple injectors I’m just wondering
What about purge valve . delete or not
You can put 4.44 diff in it was in 36 318 automatic no idea if you have such in states but thats what people do here in europe 🙂
The 4.44 from an x3 fits the e46 subframe
Funny to see other people's Mali's follow them like velcro 😂
The 3.46 diff is the worst one for top speed if using the ZF 5 speed manual. I had much better luck using the 3.38 diff. It sounds like such a small insignificant difference but realistically it was the difference between having a 130mph and a 110mph top speed! I had to have the car in 5th gear while trying to cruise at 40mph! So anything above that speed and my car was screaming toward recline! The 3.46 difference made my car feel like a 600cc sport bike with a giant rear sprocket set up for learning how to do wheelies! It made 1st gear completely unusable! Effectively making my car into a 4 speed (launching best from 2nd gear) The 3.38 diff found on the auto cabriolet was actually a perfect compromise.
im running a 3.38 with my zf 5 and i love it
Fit a decompression plate,bringing the cr from 10.2-1 to 8.someyhing then turbo it,you can run 7-12psi on stock internals,and add another 130-150bhp.just depends if the cost is worth that to you
No need for a decomp plate... This is 2021, we have e85 now.
@@SHREDTOKILL u could run 10 psi on pump gas stock engine😂 e85 on a stock engine has made like 600
Bud lol he knows what he’s doing 😂😂
Im running stock compression and im about to put 15psi on pump through my stock bottom end
They have e85 widely avalibe in states soo not like here in middle europe where e85 Is not avalibe anymore soo you better run 100octane and decomp Plate 🙂
Can you share where I can get the ecu ? Oh man I love that rev , also my e46 is a automatic
Is it from the headers or you've done some upgrades on the exhaust?
You can do an intake and delete the box. Mishimoto intakes are 225 right now I think
He was avoiding "visual" California inspection dings. It probably does better than most Cold Air Intakes honestly; very short ducting after a giant filter that gets fresh air from in front of the radiator... hard to beat that.
@@Mis73rRand0mYou don’t get dinged for aftermarket intakes in California as long as it’s carb legal, a few companies like k&n make cai that are 50 state legal
Tho stock intake on our chassis is at the end of the day better than most aftermarket parts online at least without stepping into the 1k dollar range
What headers are on the car at this stage?
Gotta ask what exhaust setup your running? I imagine the m50 manifold changes the tone but sounds good nun the less and would love to run it on my 323i if you reply to this comment
I Have A 323 Its Absolutely Amazing No Cap It Even Sounds Really Good Straight Piped Loud Asf. With A Good Muffler You Could Achieve A Nice Sound. I Haven't Tried Cause I Plan Turbo It An Dumb Out The Sides
Mooorrre powa baby Fuck yeahhh
Wasted all that money should of just went with billet intake manifold
Fully gut the car. I know a guy who has an E46 Sedan fully gutted made a custom roof and has aftermarket gas tank. Weighed 2578 with turbo 450-500 bone stock
Do you have to tune the ECU ?
Anyone have issues with the fuel rail popping off after a few seconds of idling?
im looking to install the M50 manifold, might be a dumb question but there is no need for the tune right? i mean additional gaines but it will still drive good right?
I’m idk. I wouldn’t do it with out getting the tune but it’s Wellso has tuned ecu ready to go and they are a simple install
Link for the ECU?
That’s a nice car for $400!😳😳😳😨😨😨
Yuh
Is your car a regular 3 series or an M. If you can't tell if the car is faster, seems like it was not worth doing, time and effort wise.
Did you rounded the intake holes on the engine to mach the M50 manifold air holes or you didn’t mess with it??
I dont think he did filed the holes wich he should have
Are you from the AV?
Is a tune absolutely necessary I have the M50 intake but haven’t installed it yet bc I don’t know anyone who tunes 😭🤷🏾♂️
Look up RKTunes
Put new vanos seals in?
Psssh 50k miles. That engine is a cream puff.
M54 engines (MS43) are VERY (VERY!) fragile in case of running anything wrong enginewise. I've started up my M54B25 with a monster vacuum leak ONCE and it was making from this (even after with proper intake-setup back) almost like 50hp less tille the time I've delete all ECU errors, reset all the adaptations and made all new. Try to do it in INPA. Your diagnosis cable can not do it properly. OVERALL I'm the opinion (beeing a user of M54B25 in E36, M54B30 in E46 sedan and M54B30 in recent compact) that the best simple mod (like you mentioned at the beginnig) is not intake swap - it is a B30 swap ;) One day of job and you have 40 more Hp and surely 60-70Nm more torque for....1000$? It costs something like this in europe. You had Micah a B30 in your missile coupe so you know the difference :)
blew up my 325i doing a 2-3-2 money shift when I was like 17 like 8 years ago & got a B30 bottom end for free from my dad's work friend & got most of the valves for free too. We swapped it in within like a week & I didnt tune it for like a year lmao It ran just fine minus all the decel pops, probs a lil lean & mean.
but my dad is a BMW master mechanic so that was a major help with the work. All in all, deffo recommend & you can do it in steps. You dont need an expensive tune right off the rip if you are broke.
does venting to atmosphere smell oily?
Yes it smells. Overall it's better to connect it like in m50 - between maf and throttle. Tested both, under vacuum engine feels stronger in lower rev range
My EML light came on my e46 after installing this tune my car runs like 💩💩 help!!!
Hey yo comment from mass can u please link me to your ecu tuner
Can u send me the person who tuned ecu I need mine done bad
On a 325.... I woulda put a 330 manifold on it. The m50 manifold is really suited for boost or atleast a 2.8 na.
would gladly ship my 01’ 330i manifold for free if he ends up needing to go that route 🤣
@@user-ch1sf3ol3s lemme buy that off you
@@nickybobbyy I got two for sale
@@dylansheldon3623 still for sale?
@@trapgodtravis7604 330 manifold? yeah i got a few
ok but we need Colt update
whats the name of your engine ? is it b25 or b30?
It’s an M54B25
low mid torque for top end grunt. but imo its minus work on a m54b30. u r loosing too much for the trade off
Old street racing thing to what you mean that An't stock
What’s the budget build price update?
is doggo a belgian malinois?
Yes
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Does anyone knows what this would do on a m54b22?
I also wanna know ! Considering doing the same mod
@@phawupowerhousesakwe7897it would lose power, youll lose high end and low end. You get most of whit least money whit proper ecu retune on b22 and i dont mean mainstream ecu tuning scams that increase few degree timing and ad pedal value to moon.
How tf did you get a 50k mile 2.5l for 400!!😂😂
the m50 manifold swap doesnt have disa valves so its gonna kill off alot of midrange torque. your actually better off with a m54b30 manfold. I dont understand the m50 manifold swap thing, it just kills torque and makes it less fun for drifting.
Would this apply to turbo application too?
So, if i put m54b30 manifold on my m52b25TU, would be any performance gains?
@@LilGraph2 also curious
This disa valve is bigger so it obviously accomodates more air. I don't know if you'd get gains without a tune and who's going to make a tune for that swap. M50 puts down hp numbers and is turbo acceptable. That's why the tune and swap is available. Nobodys going to pay and R&D for a m54b30 manifold to gain 10ft/lbs midrange in their 325i.
@@LilGraph2 there’s actually an entire thread about this on e46fanatics
I wonder if this setup minus the headers would pass smog in California?
Love the SLG ford 8.8 setup but is far far overpriced.
I have a 3.91 for sale that we ran on small tracks in California. In TX no use for it. Hit me up.
Still have it?
Bro, was that a bong on you work bench when you pulled in?
Does it matter
is this better than an aftermarket manifold?
Just yank that crappy aluminum block out of there, put in an m52 with a link ECU, a turdblow, some rods, and send it.
Let's go Brandon! #fjb
wngine light you gotta reset adaptations everytime a new tune loads in
Is vlad @ seems Legit for the ecu? Input please
That beard gave you 20 more HP
Das sieht sehr gut aus 🙂 denk mal über eine Schaltwegverkürzung nach!