God of War 3 Ruined Kratos
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2023
- In today's video, i felt like ranting about the character of Kratos and how it got butchered by the time we made it to God of War 3 thanks to Sony Santa Monica feeding into the hype surrounding the series.
Please watch the full video before commenting your thoughts becuz i do talk a lot at the end as well. Enjoy. 
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Just a quick disclaimer: I've changed my mind on A LOT of what I said in this video. A lot.
Explain Mr Gameplays
Would love a follow up vid!
fun fact, when you said gow 1 was the original ending for you, yes it was supposed to be the actual ending of the story, but since it was a successful game, santa monica made sequels
He killed innocents in GOW 1. Hell he was killing innocents in that village before he killed his wife and daughter. He wasn’t screaming in GOW1 bc he was a broken desperate man just trying to get rid of visions that haunted him. Which the gods didn’t get rid of btw. Which made him bitter and angry. Add on his mother and Deimos and of course character this made him hate the gods. That’s why he was destroying all of their cities in the beginning of GOW2. Then Zeus kills him and that hatred turns to blind rage to Zeus bc he had nothing else to live for. I feel like his path to becoming Kratos of GOW3 made perfect sense.
If the gods took away kratos's vision it will be a small game right?
I mean he even tried to kill himself after defeating Ares in GOW 1 and the gods stopped that. No matter what Kratos did the gods were either playing games with him or opposing him. It just boiled up and he became the biggest savage in history in GOW3
Also the comparison with Guts is little different. Guts hunted apostles for two years by himself and if he could’ve killed the god hand and anyone who got in his way he would’ve. But he wasn’t powerful enough to do so. Kratos was
I agree 💯
@@Ahnaf_Abid Athena, tells kratos no man or god can remove his visions. I think it makes sense because it's his guilt.
His rage keeps building up every gow game he gets angrier and angrier until he lost it at gow 3 and just went like "fuck it im gonna kill all the gods"
“Who stands in my Way”
True
@@lightmohamed5700 "there will always be another god to stand against you"
Kratos: they will fall as well
@@IMLLAMALIFE exactly Kratos wouldn’t kill any God just like that
I love how he forgot to mention the way how Kratos killed the boat captain in the first game two times without caring anything about him :)
I KNOW I literally mentioned that in my comment zesty is pissing me off because he’s listening way too much to people’s opinions on internet now it’s so sad
@@lightmohamed5700 yeah that's what is happening, Kratos charactere in GOW games is not that problematic, when I played the games I didn't feel any inconsistencys, the only bad thing was the pandora box clishe in GOW3 that's it.
In a god of war novel it's actually said that the boat captain is a slave owner but I don't expect u to just know that cuz it's not said in the games but now u know, kratos was saving slaves from slave ships in the beginning of gow1
@@rancersweirdness young Kratos was never a Heros nor a good person, he always cared for himself not for people(excluding sparta and his family), and that was clear in chains of olympus. He is a war killing machine on legs.
@@marocmaghrib5524 exactly
I love Kratos's arc from 1-3. He goes from tragic anit-hero to tragic villain. It's great how many other games are like that? There's change and almost all of it is in character, he gets more blinded by his rage and vengeance as the games progress.
Pandora makes him have a glimmer of his old humanity but ultimately his self destructive anger prevails. Tragic and "chef's kiss" glorious.
Btw, soldiers back then we're beyond bloodthirsty. Why do you think rape and pillage was a form of payment.
Exactly OG Kratos has a great Arc it makes sense why he turned out the way he did in GOW 3 this video along with other misconceptions people spew about this character has no idea what they are talking about
Far cry 3 has a similar main character if I remember. Haven’t played since 2013
I think his behaviour in GOW3 isn't justifiable but it is definitely understandable. After falling to Hades and getting betrayed by his only ally in the beginning of the game Kratos reached his breaking point. The world constantly poked the bear and the bear started poking back. He was going to get Zeus at all costs.
A decent amount of gods died only because they got in his way due to their pride and he just wasn't having it.
Read my comment it’s really justified
He destroyed the world killing nearly all of humanity because of his need for revenge. Yes the pantheon had it coming but you can't justify killing lots of innocent people only because of your trauma. It's good that he at least did the only thing he could to try and repair it afterwards, but you could also argue it was just out of spite and he released the Power of Hope to spit in Athena's face.
@@moonbruh6813 that and him going mad after knowing of the destruction of Sparta in God of war 2 because of Gaia fuelling him with rage as she literally said when she took the from of his wife and Kratos was never meant to be a Good person he was never meant to be a hero he was supposed to be an anti-hero God of war 3’s rage got justified already though yes destroying the world wasn’t but still he was never supposed to be a Good guy or guts-like character even when Athena said he will always be a monster he acknowledged that in God of war 2018 so my point is clear now
@@moonbruh6813 nah honestly i find it more logical to not care about the innocent and kill them in his vengence from zeus cause here we r talking about gods fighting not just mortals who will feel for each other its like u r going on vengence u wont care about the ants u r gona step on ur way
@@neos606 that also makes sense
I always felt the rage in god of war 3 came from frustration. After being denied again and again and again and again AND AGAIN. He has nothing but vengeance and that's why he leads so hard into it
I disagree with most of the arguments from this video, GOW3 is the culmination of Kratos's character where he becomes the most rageful version of himself after all that happened in the previous games. Since GOW1, Kratos was never good, we see this from the flashbacks as the general of Sparta. What you say about Poseidon & Hercules could be said about most of the other bosses from the previous games, in GOW2, did Kratos really need to slam the door through Theseus's head to get the key? or was really necessarily to brutally kill Perseus to get his shield? Yes, because Kratos has always done that to his opponents. Rage has always been a part of Kratos's character, this is shown in all of the games to certain degress, in GOW1 is really small. In the GOW3 after he gets betrayed by everyone, his rage is fully let loose & doesn t care about humanity ( Olympus ). That's why he acts this way to the bosses, I can argue that he doesn't act evil to all of the characters in that game. He only kills if any character stay in his way, insult him or gets betrayed. For example, with Hera in the garden puzzle area. He doesn t kill her at first, he even ignores her, only after mentioning Pandora in the second cutscene with her in that area, he snaps her neck. If he killed her immediately for no reason the first time he saw her in a brutal way like Poseidon, I could have seen your point about his character. The GOW3 is the evolution of Kratos's character. And what you say about GOW4, Ragnarok & GOW3 being a better trilogy????? Like what????
It didn’t ruin him it continued his story as Gaia gave him the rage of Sparta ITSELF in God of war 2 in the kraken boss fight you even see him so sad and hear how depressed he is just like in God of war 1 when ares kills his family again he’s angry at first then depressed again he even lost hope but when Gaia took the form of his wife and Whispered in his ear until he lost it completely especially when Gaia he’s last ally whom he thought is actually with him the whole time when she were just manipulating him then betrayed him and the side Games continues the story to justify his actions more while God of war 3 even justified the Gods to some extent although they’re evil even in the actual Greek mythology and That’s the point of God of war 3 it’s that they wanted to show him mad because that’s what everything he’s been through lead to that’s called character development as you can see he wasn’t even that mad in God of war 2 he was manly calm and never shoutout “revenge” or screamed “Zeus” until he learned about the destruction of Sparta later in The end of God of war 3 he regrets everything in the end and feels empty because the revenge wasn’t Good as he thought it would be so he just wants to end it all while giving the people hope so they can rebuild and live again after he destroyed everything
People who say God of war 3 ruined Kratos just don’t understand it’s story and why he even started to like Pandora I mean The Pandora thing it’s because he protected her like his daughter and he liked it because he has a father figure problems since chains of Olympus because he can never be with his daughter again so he wanted her to stay with him also because of his respect for Hephaestus that he was hiding
by the way about Poseidon’s princess remember the boat captain from God of war 1? When killed him for no reason? Even in the afterlife he wronged him for no reason AND THAT’S IN GOD OF WAR 1 the whole point of this scene was to show that Kratos is no hero
oh cmon Extremegameplays.... i know you got this video idea from 'Nobody understands Kratos' where i already debunked the RUclipsrs claims within the video
@@godzillazfriction yes I know he got it from him
@@lightmohamed5700 im not even going to past 1 minute because I already knew what this video was going to be about
@@godzillazfriction I know
@@lightmohamed5700 one thing ill disagree on is the last bit or the ending of gow 3.... imo kratos only killed himself because he actually wanted to kill himself... he didn't know that he was cursed to not be able to kill himself.... him rebuilding hope and actually wanted to help ppl was present in gow ragnarok in which ppl would now worship him as a figure of hope not the bloodthirsty warlord that he was
I mean, it was always a little weird that in Ghost of Sparta, his mom is locked inside Poseidon's temple, in Atlantis. You know, Poseidon's city. I kinda see how Kratos could direct some hostility to him.
I hate how people say Poseidon didn't deserve to die like this, but he quite clearly did! If someone locked your mother up and you end up having to kill her, you would clearly be full of rage and hatred for whoever did that. In Kratos' case, these people were Zues and Poseidon
@@BronzetheGolden also let's not forget that the gods fucked with mortals since the begining of time. So they all are evil to some degree and had it coming
Kratos’s interactions with Divine Beings
Poseidon held his mother and was the first to face Kratos in Mt. Olympus
Thanatos held and killed his brother Deimos
Area made him kill his family and kidnapped his brother
Zeus is his father and destroyed Sparta after and cause everything wrong with Kratos
Cronos tried to kill him
Gaia manipulated and betrayed him
Athena manipulated him and kidnapped his brother
Persephone tried to destroy creation
Hades tried to hold Kratos in the underworld and kill him
Atlas tried to destroy creation
Helios tried to manipulate Kratos
Hercules wanted to usurp the throne of the God of War even though Kratos didn’t hold it anymore
Hera insulted him to his face
Anyone who wonders why Kratos decided to kill everyone who remotely got in his way didn’t play the games.
I respectfully disagree,in god of war 1 it makes sense why he isn’t as rage fueled as the god of war 3 because he’s still trying to win the gods’s favor by killing ares,in god of war 2 he starts becoming more angry,
But I think context is important,he’s been having constant nightmares,and the context of the spin off games and ascension where he was imprisoned,beaten,tortured,also knowing that the gods are the reason that his brother died and the reason he was taken from him at a young age,also the situation with his mother and Zeus.
It’s been 10+ years like this,so it makes sense why he’s like that in god of war 3 because it was 10 years of pent-up anger which would ultimately cause a normal ass person to explode at some point let alone a spartan general.
Edit:I know god of war 3 doesn’t have the most tight story,I never said it does,it has problems but it makes sense why kratos is the way he is in gow 3.
I agree with what you say. Though what I want to say is that his actions can be explained ( obviously they still cannot be justified). Taking into consideration the time line that is accepted by the most amount of people, in other words taking almost all of the games as cannon, his malice is explained as such:
In his flashbacks we see Kratos doing many things he regrets, as an example cutting his family's life short, such visions haunted him for quite a while and to reddeem himself he went on and pledged servitude to the gods of Olympus. In return he would receive the relief of the visions being lifted away from him. After 10 years of servitude he was tasked to slay Ares, his last task. After he succeeded he thought all his nightmares would go away, instead he was forced into becoming the new God of war.
Afterwards he searched for his mother who turned into a beast in order to not speak of Kratos' past, a plan of Zeus. He was forced to kill his mother. Then he found his only brother whom he admired so much. Thanatos took him away and Kratos, seeing his last known (at that time) alive loved one die, he was furious. And with that, he desired to express his anger. He did so through the wars that happened before and at the start of GOW2. Zeus, consumed by fear, decided it would be the perfect time to kill Kratos. By doing so, and at the same time destroying the spartan army, made Kratos desire vengeance.
From this point on, Kratos was beaten time and time again. All the rage that was built slowly, exploded all at once. That is the reason he is so cruel at GOW2 and GOW3. He no longer cares. And the reason he is so protective towards Pandora, as mentioned by others in this comment section, is because he sees Calliope in Pandora, thus, what remains of the human inside him kicks in and tries to protect her.
After his malice is over, and he calms down then he sees what he has done, he never learnt form the past and did the same mistake again ( being blinded by malice). As a last attempt to redeem himself he ended himself to release hope to the surviving humans.
I'm going to say it again, Kratos is irredeemable at that point. That doesn't mean his actions are not explainable.
I'm sorry to keep you here for so long, have a great day/night.
EDIT:Fixed some spelling and syntax errors
I'll add a thing here : that poor woman he crushed into the wheel in GOW3.. yes she didn't deserved that, of course, but again.. Kratos was already in a no turning point, he had an objective, she was the key.
I don't understand why all the hatred about Kratos being an asshole, i mean the gods and the life in general played, tooled and mocked him for almost his entire life.
I wouldn't say Kratos was ever really a good person
@user-kx1lp4jd8m yes, but I would say he wasn't good even before his service to Ares because he had a massive desire for power and he wouldn't listen to his wife telling him to stop
@@busterem778That's how he was raised. Spartans were really ruthless and didn't even spare children. Kratos as a child saw Spartans killing thier children, just because babies were suffering from an incurable disease. The Spartans wanted to make sure that there were no weak memeber in thier community, even if it meant killing thier own innocent children. Kratos was trained to spill blood in the battlefield.
duh fuck no he isn't , but If u were raised the way kratos was raised (no mother no father and his brothers were taken away from him) u wouldn't even think like that , a Spartan who was only raised to trust his weapon and his instincts , sounds harsh doesn't it ?
@Sebo-xp2gr you have a good point and I'm just typing this just to correct you on the matter of parents, he did have his mother and he lived with her
@@busterem778 yes , which she later turned to a monster and he had to kill her , just another reason to be a fucked up person lol
I feel like what a lot of people forget to mention is that Kratos was always this war-thristy psychopath, I get that he was Spartan but even his own family thought he was going too far. So, what happens when you promise that man something, doesn't fufill that promise affer 10 years and instead, throws him into wars again but with godly powers over said wars? Ghost of Sparta did a great job better explaining Kratos' downfall, and it's a story that I absolutely love, but I think there was already enough there to justify this huge change in character. Note that the visions weren't just of him killing his family but also of the wars he took part in before and after his oath to Ares.
Kratos in gow4: no boy his beaten.......
also kratos in gow3 with poseidon: ∆OX∆∎XO∎ OOOOOOO
You forgot the L3 + R3
@@bigdawgc literally
Helios and Hermes:
That's why older games are better. He got ruined after.
@@Someone-qi1rr are you really using this joke as argument to why he’s better before? ☠️
The people who betrayed kratos are :
Athena , gaia , olympus , zeus , ares ,
I should tell you in god of war 3 kratos barely screams at all , like only when zeus taunted him to release pandora
@@bigdawgc he really only screams during slams with the blades iirc
@@bigdawgc and the screams are pretty much battle crys similar how people will scream during workouts
Or when he needs someone far away to hear him, like with Poseidon.
But i do not agree with all your points zesty. Although they are pretty valid and accurate, they stole Krato's humanity overtime. He lost his whole family to the Ares and Zeus (Deimos,Callisto,Calliope,Lyssandra,Orkos).+ He served the all the gods pointlessly for 10+ years and they didnt remove his nightmares.Thats's why he said in god of war 2 "A choice from the gods is as useless as the gods themselves". It made sense to me to end up like that in GoW 3
The more I hear about the thought processes from the developers about the old games the more I am convinced that the majority of depth in Kratos' story is accidental. The things they did because they seemed cool at the time just so happened to have a lot of subtlety in it. For example, the way Kratos acted in GOW 1. Him being mostly polite to the gods, rarely displaying any type of emotion, he even seemed extremely apathetic and expressionless when facing Ares, even though he APPARENTLY sought revenge on him for a decade. All this makes perfect sense because of the events that happened in Chains of Olympus. In that game Kratos is noticeably more aggressive and loud than in its chronological sequel which for some reason makes people think it's a flanderization of his character. If YOU ACTUALY PLAY THE GAME and reach the last cutscene with Atlas and Kratos you then understand the reason why that game is important. Even though he saved the entire world, it was ultimately meaningless. After returning the sun to the sky he was left bare and alone at the edge of that famous cliff. The gods didn't erase his nightmares, no one thanked him for it until Helios brought it up in 3 when it was convenient for him. That didn't make him angry, it made him depressed. In his conversation with Atlas he proclaimed that he will keep working for the gods because there is nothing else he can do. Years passed between Chains of Olympus and 1, so we don't know what happened in between, but we see the culmination of what for me is the first story arc of God of War. After completing many impossible tasks, saving the world, killing a god, doing thankless work for a decade and not being rewarded in the end, being shunned, hated, feared by all. The mindless brute video game journalists know him as decides he has enough and decides to end his life, but the gods don't let him do even that. I could give more examples but I'm not in the mood to write an entire book.
it definitely isn't accidental but ok
@@godzillazfriction 2018 and ragnarok proves that it is. There are scenes that contradict old canon for the sake of a single "mature" and "emotional" moment.
@@wolware24 ok... so where exactly.... for all I know... the only one from 2018 is the not knowing your full potential of godhood... even though it was a plot hole, it still is viable because kratos sought his full potential of his godhood when he came to power and it amplified it when kratos became ares' servant... deimos unlocked his potential because of the rage he endured because he thought that kratos would save him and its the rage that kept him alive and unlocked his potential
@@wolware24 and for ragnarok then I guess it would be that kratos sought revenge on ares when in fact he did at first but soon enough wanted his memories to be forgotten in GOW 1... Ascension is about realising that horrors you committed which kratos soon would regret and spoke too soon when he said 'i would rather live in truth'
@@godzillazfriction The "I am a god boy" boat tugging scene. He said he was born a god which is absolutely not true. Throughout the old games it is often emphazised that kratos is a mortal and the gods use it in a derogatory way. Athena even congratulated him when his brother died, saying he let go of what made him mortal which in my opinion was his snapping point that made him hate the gods as much as he does.
Hey zesty, great video as always.
TLDR: Kratos had lost so much by GOW3 that he didn't care who he was killing to reach his goal.
Not defending his actions or anything but just a headcount of people Kratos lost due to the Gods. Firstly his family, then his daughter again to save the world, then his mother who he had to kill by himself due to Zeus's curse, then his brother who he just found to be alive and lost him again within a matter of days I guess. The GOW2 Kratos had relied on the Spartan army to take out the wrath that he felt due to his nightmares but Zeus came and betrayed Kratos and killed his army. Then the last Spartan was again killed by Kratos himself and that's where we see him losing his will to fight first. Then at the end of GOW2, he loses Athena as she tries to save Zeus, the same Athena who has tried to help him throughout and who basically says that she is her sister at the end of GOW2. By GOW3, he had already lost everyone and just wanted to kill the one God he thought was responsible, Zeus. By this time, he has built up enough rage and enough hatred towards Gods that he didn't care if he had to kill them all if they stand in the way of reaching Zeus. As you said the fights, the blood and gore might have been avoided, or a realisation of sorts in Kratos's mind could have been in the story but I think when he tries to save Pandora, he tries to stop killing one less innocent entity if he could, killing the one entity that he might be able to trust again. But Zeus bad mouthing him at that time only pushes the final button and he doesn't care at that point. Again it might have been good for continuity if we got the same Kratos as GOW2 and GOW 2018 or something in between but I guess this is just what the director had in mind.
Your arguments are perfectly correct,but to be honest he will for me will simply the best,strongest and most epic kratos,very violent i agree. And I also like playing as the villain, being in control of such a powerful lead.
Truly a unstoppable force that will not rest till you are dead.
Agree with your points about story though.
his arguments are no where near correct... jesus i hate this video because its the same video like the 'Nobody understands Kratos' video that Extremegameplays got the idea from
plus no shit kratos gets pleasure from killing... he's a sadistic motherfucker since the 1st game... i cant with this video
@@godzillazfriction can't deny the fact that the redemption arc was a little strange,and tbh I think killing the gods was a bit justified,but the othere civilians and the girl made no sense. Honestly I don't really care who he kills as I enjoy the game. But from a story standpoint it is a little strange
Bro literally expected to play GoW III as Buddha or some shit, sitting on GoW I's throne hanging out with his olympian buddies that used him for 10 years, kept pushing him to the edge, lied to him and even refused to let him die on his own terms.
That's the damn point of GoW III: at some point Kratos rightfully snapped and lost it, because just how long did you expect the guy to endure?
And in so doing the player is meant to gradually distance himself from Kratos, recognizing that he's going too far, otherwise we wouldn't need to see how every god's death affects the world in general. There's a reason they put specific focus on that, it's the moral of the story if we are to point out any.
This is why we have the scene with Poseidon's wife, it's the fool-proof moment when you're REALLY encouraged to pick a side (Similar scenes include Poseidon, Hercules, Hermes and especially Cronos, Kratos really went as out of his way as he could to murder him).
Nothing wrong here, instead I would've been disappointed if Kratos's character didn't turn out the way it did.
Well Cronos attacked first technically. 🙃 (although with just cause considering he thought Kratos killed Gaia)
Zesty your takes are right but for me this is the logical continuation of gow3. Now here me out.
Kratos by that time has completely snapped. No wife, no child, no brother nothing. And those who respected him(Orcos, Athena) are dead. Again by his own hand. As you said it’s a tragedy.
In Greece tragedies are way more brutal than gow. You have brothers killing each other and having there sister exiled. You have people “marrying” there own mother by accident…. And so on. It’s way more dark
And the Greek saga doesn’t want to be like the new era. It doesn’t meat rides the critics. Yeah sure the deaths such as Poseidon’s girl could have been prevented but it adds more to the blind rage that Kratos has. I think you have said that it makes you feel uncomfortable. But this is were gow3 shines. Under that crazy rage you still have a man that’s mentally broken. And at the end he “regrets” his actions.
Sure why all this had to happened in order for Kratos to think about his actions
Here’s the thing: It’s all the killing spree that makes it a tragedy. Read any Greek tragedy. There is, most of the times, a lot of killing and it doesn’t end well. Gow1 finished “good”, gow2 was the cliffhanger but gow3 end in tragic way, a fitting way for a Greek tragedy. Everyone’s is killed, the world is destroyed and the “hero” regrets his actions by killing himself. For me this is perfect.
I love how goated he looked in the old cutscenes
Idk what Poseidon did, but what Kratos did to him HAD to be racially motivated.
Yo wassup extremegameplays love you vids bro keep it up man.
Lack of justification doesn’t equal bad writing.
So how is it good writing, then?
@@garrynewman6211 not even saying it means good either. It can be done well or poorly, and I think GoW 3 did it well.
Tell me you know nothing about character development without telling me you know nothing about character development
I've changed my mind on alot of the things i said in this video.
I'd argue that aside from Hera and Poseidon's side piece, all the bosses got what was coming to them in mortal combat. Helios tried to smite Kratos, Poseidon tried to crush him, Hermes tried to lead him into a trap, Hercules tried to beat him, and Hades tried to keep him in the underworld. None of them would have shown him mercy so there was little to no point in showing any to them.
Edit: Hephaestus is a little debatable but he also attempted to have Kratos killed via Kronos and later by zapping him.
thank you
Hera kinda got what was coming for her. Kratos was going to leave her alone, but she just had to bring up Pandora.
Even tho there are some good arguments in this video I will have to disagree. There were reasons for him to do what he actually did to Poseidon, Helios e.t.c. considering that because of the Gods he lost everything he loved and cared about (Wife & daughter, his mother, brother, Sparta). Also I believe the change in his behavior in Gow 3 is because he already killed 2 gods, so he is way more confident about his victory. And also considering that in his whole life he was trained like a warrior and war was literally the biggest part of his life, its inevitable to seek redemption for his loved ones through vengence and killing everyone on sight. I can see your prespective tho. Good job Zesty!
3 gods.
Hades' wife was also a god(i think).
Nah man Gow3 was a masterpiece just to see how Kratos just kills all the gods without hesitating was awesome
You seriously missed the entire point of of gow 3 the point is for the player to hate kratos. They make him so evil and it does make perfect sense why he would be this way with everything that the gods have done to him so it makes you sympathetic but also shows how far he has gone to make you hate him. But do you want to know what made his character so compelling is the fact you can still see humanity within him. Kratos actually tries to not fight Hercules,Cronos and does offer to spare Helios also every scene he has with pandora. Still he is mostly a villain witch makes those moments of humanity better. By the end kratos finally realized his vengeance had gone to far and attempts to end his life to atone for his sins. That is what we call a deep character arc.
Your points are good but the Poseidon one is a bit of a stretch cuz Poseidon definitely gonna let kratos kill Zeus and just watch. But I get the trying to redeem the character making no sense and he could of spared (dunno if This is the right way to spell it) Hercules and Poseidon’s princess or whatever she is. Most of the other parts are valid thou apart from Hera and Hephaestus. Not saying I’m against the possibility but the reason he killed Her for made no sense since he didn’t know or had no reason to care for Pandora. And for Hephaestus Kratos even says himself he was just trying to protect Pandora and if he cared for Pandora the way it’s portrayed he wouldn’t have killed him.
guys he literally just got clap by a stranded octopus from norse and he bout to amaze me with his olympian-level editing skills
I personally think that it is perfect how Santa Monica portrayed Kratos after he started the conquest to destroy Zeus. I liked hearing out your opinion on this matter too. I have made a reddit post about Kratos' bloodlust, I will tweet it to you because YT might delete a comment contaning links. Also, I am uploading slowed and reverb GoW Soundtracks which I would be more than happy if you used for your videos. Keep up the good work Zesty!
This is one hell of a hot take. This video is like someone saying Alex Mercer from PROTOTYPE 1 was a hero.
Bra😂
God of war 3 is the best for me it’s better than 4 and ragnarok
5:30 the bgm song just making the explanation and video interesting👍🏻
I enjoyed your video Man good job
Ps. nice you put Batman Arkham city soundtrack
Wow last time I checked you had 10k subs, you’ve really grown
Honestly it's a logical outcome for him if you include CoO, GoS and even Ascension (btw Persephone kinda betrayed him if you think about it). Man was tortured by Furies, decieved by the empty promises of Olympians, fooled by Ares, lost his family twice (and Calliope again in CoS), had to kill his mother, lost his brother who got killed shortly after reunion, fooled by Zeus, lost his homeland and moreover his only allies Athena and Gaya turned against him. And Kratos wasn't even a good guy from the start! I mean no wonder Kratos lost his shit completely by the events of GoWIII
P.S.: If you count only main trilogy, forget about everything I wrote before. In that case I think the title is pretty much correct
@random user for me he is neutral. In Ascension he tried to break free from Furies, so his goals benefit only himself, but wasn't particulary bad. In CoO he did the tasks that the Olympians gave him and wanted to abandon his mission to reunite with Calliope. Saving the world is a greater good but actually it was a part of his personal goal to save his daughter.
Kratos had something good in him like saving the innocent from monsters in Ascension but also did terrible things like killing the souls in Elisium even tho Kratos had to do this.
Also let's not forget that he wasn't a nice guy even before Ares but he truly loved his family.
He does what he does, that's why I think he is neutral
completely agree but when I was first playing GoW i was hoping to fight and kill all the Gods,that was the point,I was expecting this to happen like in Mortal Kombat when you go up the ladder.
My man zesty!! Great video, techno Cory Barlog fixed the problem of Gow 1 to Gow 2 Kratos, since he co-wrote Ghost of Sparta. Great content man!!!
Love the use of the arkham games music at 12:00
Sparing poseidon would be bad because poseidon would come back after kratod after he healed himself, it would be if kratos just normally killed him by stabbing him with the blade of olympus
What he did to poseidon was definitely a hate crime
😂😂😂 love those vids
why didn't he mention ascension or chains of Olympus
Really liked the deep thought into the character keep goin zestyy!
I dont think pandora is supposed to make us feel bad for him. Especially due to the fact that he couldn't let go his rage and sacrificed her
After losing literally every single thing he has ever cared about, one by one, sometimes getting it back to lose it again, it's not the least bit surprising that Kratos entered his f*** you era, and couldn't give a damn about the Olympians after Zeus finally destroyed Sparta.
Great arguments, however I’d blame God of War 2 for drastically changing his character, simplifying him like crazy and God of War 3 is only a natural continuation of that WITHOUT the edgelord parts of II. There are deeper aspects to Kratos and his dynamic with Pandora, I really can’t say there was much deep in GOW II other than the scene with the last spartan (which was also not very impactful)
Please do us an edit for God of War
by the time 3 comes around has so consumed by vengeance he is blinded by his goal to the point that nothing else matters but his goal anything that can remotely block his path forward his anger so much that he loses control consumed by rage n by the end he has clarity and relishes the monster has become n then tries to end it Pandora is a reminder of what he once was n almost pulls him out of his rage but when she dies for nothing he is consumed again
Keep coming videos like this zesty
WELL I HAVE TO DISAGREE, the change in kratos character between gow 1 and 2 is one of the best story points in the series and it didn't need gow ghost of sparta to excuse it...gow 1 was a typical Greek tragedy where the hero gets fucked by himself with the help of the gods and has to except that his ending was his problem and no one else and the gods can't be blamed because they are GODS, but where it differs is that the protagonist becomes a God, now he is higher than every mortal and their life's are nothing to him and his problems are theirs if he wants, now the gods are in the same playground and can be questioned for any wrong they do him...hence his character in the beginning of god of war 2. That's the brilliance of it and that's why gow gos was not need and in some ways takes away from the story.
Gow Ghost of Sparta makes sense though because that's His Family and also His Mother was Held in a Temple by a God he served too.And In that Game's Beginning He refers to Gow 1 When he says the Visions you promised to Take Away still Haunt Him to Athena.
@@hurricane7727 what I am saying is that it was not need before gow 2, these events could have happened later on.
Bro like Poseidon and Hades helped this man through his first journey, actually hades in the third game even was disappointed I Zeus as one of his lines he said how kratos could have been a great warrior.
At the time, yes. But now with God of War 4 and Ragnarok, with Kratos trying to be better, is his downfall in 2 and 3 really that bad all things considered?
Zesty, about Poseidon. I mean he helped Zeus to held Kratos' mother in Atlantis. So it was personal too. And about Pandora. She is key for Kratos change from 3 to 4, for Kratos soul and hope in it. Without her Kratos wouldn't had changed.
Incredible game for season has aged very well in recent years It would be amazing if there were others Gods In this third game like:
Hypnos,Demeter,Dionysus,Apollo,Artemis,Eros,Eris,Íris and Hestia with the grandchildrens of Zeus what could have been added to the game like:
Triton,Hecate,Asclepius,Orpheus,Macaria and Melinoe since they are Sons of Apollo,Hestia,Hades and Poseidon
another thing that also Ares,Aphrodite,Hephaestus & Athena they also have Childrens too
It's a shame that these Characters/Gods didn't appear in the game who knows in the future.. I believe there could still be two games of the Greek Mythology to close the saga
and in the current games of Norse Mythology what is now happening in this new saga and mythology there would be a lot to do with more two games a sixth game and the origin game with many story dlcs especially in the Ragnarok that I definitely believe surely there will be more
and a curiosity: we almost had a fight against Echidna the mother of all Demons and Creatures of the Greek mythology a shame it was cut and it would have been a fight on behind the Gaia's back in a forest certainly at the beginning of the game from this third game and we almost had the NPC Ixion as one of the puzzles in the underworld in the game that he would die in one of the traps that we would try to uncover to pass the level that was cut very sad that it didn't happen..
and all these things and Gods with yours Childrens/DemiGods was cut from the final version content and they were not added/placed in the game.. 🤔🥺🤧🙏🙏 like and Bye!
The "visions" plot only exists in GOW 1. All the other games seemed to not acknowledge that so much even though it was clearly states that he didn't have his visions removed. I thought the visions were like the most important thing Kratos wanted to get removed? Did he just, lived with it?
"Kratos had turn the pain of his memories into hatred. Hatred for the Gods who refused to free him from the nightmares of his past deads". First cutscene in God of War 2.
Gow Ghost of Sparta Acknowledged the Visions
I think it was more about some gods being the personification of the curses in pandoras box
Helios- pride
Kratos- wrath
Hercules- envy
Aphrodite- lust
Hera- Gluttony
Hermes- Slot
And I'd think
Poseidon Hades and Zeus Fear
Hades was anger I think
Love you bro but for the most part I disagree, in gow 1 kratos asks Athena to get rid of his nightmares, and she tricks him on behalf of all the gods that they will forgive him for what he had done, thinking that by destroying ares he would get rid of his nightmares he went through a long a brutal journey to get the box and defeat ares. Mind you throughout his quest he was constantly being mentally tortured by his past and even had to witness the death of his family happen again when he fought ares. After enduring through the physical and emotional pain he kindly pled to Athena to remove his nightmares like she presumably promised and she said, oh we can forgive, but no you’re going to keep your nightmares. Kratos would be justified to be angry with the gods because they broke their promise. Now when it comes to gow 2 the reason why he’s so war driven and bossy is because of power. Now that he has power he shows his true nature, the opening of gow 3 literally begins with Plato’s quote, “The measure of a man is what he does with power”. This is kratos since the beginning, when he was a spartan general he was war driven, when he became more powerful under the service of ares what did he do, he raided villages and kill plenty of innocents knowingly, he had no problem with doing so until he killed his own family. Kratos was never perfect nor was he ever innocent he always became more evil the more power he received. In gow 3 he became so corrupted by power and vengeance that he believed he had to get revenge no matter the cost turning him to a literal sociopath who had no regard for human life that is why he was so ruthless agains his enemies. Now when it comes to pandora, first she is unlike any other being in the gow universe she is neither living nor dead and when she spoke to kratos she had no hate or fear towards him despite knowing his past yet still had belief in him that he could be better. Pandora was the key to him finding the power of hope, the idea of knowing that you have made mistakes and forgive yourself and fight hoping that things will get better for you instead of giving up. What did kratos do with the power of plot armor, he killed Zeus and doomed all of humanity, agains showing his true self in the sight of power. Personally I think that gow 3 should have ended there with kratos knowing that he blew the last chance to redeem himself as he saw the chaos he had awakened. Kratos killing himself for good imo was the perfect end to the gow franchise because at that point there was nothing kratos could to redeem himself nor undo what he did, yet he made sure that the power of hope goes to whatever is left of humanity instead of the real villain Athena. I do agree with you however that the constant change in directors has changed the perception of kratos for the worst, but I really only see this effect with the prequels, because the directors were clearly trying too hard to connect the past timeline with the future events like for example in ascension orkos tells kratos to have his revenge even though in gow 1 he never displayed his vengeful side until he obtained the power of the box.
Regarding the behavior of Kratos in 3 parts. Taking into account the path traveled, and especially considering the spinoffs that more than fit into the Greek saga, he has a purpose, meaning and reason to sincerely hate the gods who deceived him, betrayed him and used him for their own selfish purposes, which finally tore off his roof and moral barriers, almost completely turning him into a bloodthirsty berserker. At least for the Olympians. And from that he got this cruelty.
In any case, this is how I can interpret the state of Kratos presented in the game after I learned about him.
Although, to be honest, even before the third part he was a very ruthless person who did not hesitate to kill the innocent. And sometimes very cruel.
Bro really said "kratos tries all the weed, hoes..." 😭
He still is good with pandora
Well Athena died in the end of gow 2 that's why There was no wisdom in gow 3 and everyone becomes dumb
She was already dumb before GoW 3
bro poseidon would do the same to kratos if kratos lost
bro you really need to chill you posted a lot of gow you started to lose your mind
bro all wars are like this this is not an organized tournament with rules and whoever loses can live for another day ......
Ares got it easy as f*ck, if gow 2-3 kratos was in gow 1 ares's body would've been got mutilated so badly that athena would have got a heart attack
6:20 I'M GREEK N*GG@
im pretty sure the whole point of GOW3 was to show kratos at his breaking point
I mean in GOW3 he declared war on gods so if we wouldn't have killed them. They would've killed him first lol.
He wasn’t a monster in gow1,2 really?
Did you forgot the ship Captain?
The innocent people in the village he burned ?
The old man (sory i don’t remember his name)he killed by opening the door with his head? …… I mean, he had a chance to kill him with less pain, right?
I know he gets more angry and scary in gow3 because I want to people so him like a monster just like the lady in gow1 …… she was calling him a monster she fall from the roof by accident….. she was very scared from hem
So he became a more monster, then he was, that’s right
I think you exaggerated a little zez ❤
God of war 3 always makes me sad. If only someone would have just stopped for a second and thought about what they were doing, things could have ended diferent. That being said I do think that thr change that kratos goes thru still makes sense giving in universe context. Its a diferent kind of tragity. Overall based take brother.
Love the MF DOOM music in the background 👌🏾👌🏾
10:33 I disagree. In the beginning of the first god of war, after killing the hydra. Kratos purposely lets the sea captin die with no reason at all. He literally could have pulled him up at any time but chose to let his hand go and let him die due to the simple reason "I didnt come for you" quoted by Kratos himself
What makes Kratos abrupt hatred towards Posieden even worse is that Kratos demolished his region in ghost of Sparta and doesn't give a shit about that
Gravedigger' The Destroyer of Atlantis'.
Neither does Poseidon
That's why God of War 1 is my favorite God of war. Kratos' character is most interesting in that one. Not to say that I don't like the other games but something about God of War 1 is just more unique to me which is why I still love it so much.
I agree that Kratos' character from God of War 1 _was ruined_ by subsequent games. it's actually why I dislike God of War II so much.
However, if I'm being perfectly honest...playing through God of War 3, Kratos' _never lost me._ Despite the fact that his actions were leading to the destruction of the world, for some reason, that doesn't bother me. The ending sort of had a hand in that; I believe that a world rebuilt by man with the power of Hope, is better than a world enslaved by immortal despots who don't value human life at all. The world is _better_ without the gods in it.
But here's my argument as for what is going through Kratos' head as he is killing each of the gods across the game...
Kratos _served these guys for ten years._ He wasn't just doing favors for Athena or under the command of Zeus - no, Athena gave him his marching orders, but throughout the entire time, Kratos did tasks that assisted virtually every other god. He did all of this with the Hope that once his service was up, they would reward him by freeing him from his nightmares...
...And they betrayed him.
Zeus is the one who gave the final order, but the fact that none of the other gods stood-up for Kratos, despite his years of service to them, is enough for him to consider it a betrayal. Heck, let's recap...
In the first God of War game, the very first god we meet in the game and thus assist is _Poseidon._ He commissions us to slay the Hydra, and even gives us a magic spell to use. Kratos succeeds at this task asked to him of a god, so you would think that would count in his favor when it came to the gods making their decision. And yet, when Zeus turned on Kratos after Ares' death, Poseidon said nothing in Kratos' favor.
Helios is a god who Kratos _rescued_ from death at the hands of Atlas and Persephone. At the end of the game, Helios even inquires of Athena whether or not they should help the weakened and exhausted Kratos - showcasing that out of all of the Olympians, Helios was the only one to show genuine gratitude to Kratos and felt he owed a debt to repay.
And yet, despite this, Helios said and did nothing for Kratos' case at the end of God of War 1; despite owing Kratos his life, he never bothered to repay the debt. The guy even had the gall to beg for Kratos to save him again, under the promise that he would repay him...by then, he had nothing to offer.
Granted, we don't know much about Hera or Hermes considering this game was their first true appearance. However, we know Kratos has interacted with Hera before, and he seems familiar enough with Hermes. The truth is, we don't know much about the 10 years that Kratos served Olympus, so it's certain that at some point, he did missions on behalf of the two of them as well. And not only do they not stick-up for Kratos, they actively _mock him_ in regards to his past.
Hell, the two of them are prime examples of Kratos' prerogative - had they just _stayed out of his way,_ he would've left them alone. But Hermes taunted Kratos, and Hera insulted Pandora; they literally weren't worth his time, until they pissed him off.
Hades is probably the one most understandable...Hades is the reason why Kratos can't be with Calliope in Elysium. Hades was probably the one god who was _most against_ Kratos, due to the events of Chains of Olympus. He hates Kratos for killing Persephone, despite the fact that she was literally trying to destroy the entire Greek world, including him; meaning that had Kratos not stopped her and Atlas, he himself would be _dead._ But because of this, Hades will never allow Kratos' soul to enter Elysium; he ensures that if Kratos ever dies, he will be tortured for all eternity. Needless to say, Hades is definitely one that has-it-coming.
You make mention of the fact that he doesn't try to or even want to kill Hephaestus until the smith-god double-crosses him near the end. That's because of a simple fact - with the exception of Hades - the other gods mentioned were of _The Twelve Olympians_ - the elite group of gods who basically govern the entire Greek world under Zeus. Meaning that when Kratos was doing his 10 year servitude, he was directly serving the will of each of them. Hephaestus however, is _not a member_ of the Twelve Olympians - if anything, he's an outcast, treated like no one wants him around. So out of all the gods we encounter in the game, Hephaestus is not one that Kratos would have previously served, and therefore, is the one god we encounter who has - as of yet - not betrayed Kratos. Plus, Hephaestus was not a fighter and was cowering in fear when Kratos found him in the forge. He did nothing to impede Kratos' mission to kill Zeus, until Pandora got involved.
In conclusion, I feel like Kratos does have personal reasons for killing all of the gods; and anyone else on the Mountain was just a means to an end. Yes, Kratos' actions in the game leave the world in ruins, but I still feel that the world is _better_ for it.
The gods were Tyrannical Bullies who were so confident in their own power that they never thought they could be deposed, and thus did whatever they wanted, to whoever they wanted, and faced no consequence for it. The world is better off _without them_ in charge.
The natural elements of the world have been unleashed and mankind is currently suffering, but it's _all going be okay,_ because there is Hope for the future. A hope in which mankind will become stronger and grow to stand on their own, without begging the gods for help while also having to kowtow to them for fear for their lives.
In Gow Ghost of Sparta Kratos Mother was in Poseidon's Temple. Gow Ghost of Sparta Kratos similar to Gow 3 Kratos would have Beef with Him.
The smile at 5:52 was devious, I mean I literally choked on my water.
I think you're just looking at the violence and not the character of god of war 3. You acknowledge he isn't actually eager to slaughter people. The people he kills will not stand aside. Plus his rage makes sense to me. He was hopeless at first which made sense. But then he tried to kill himself which didn't work. And he was made immortal. So after being unable to die and still being jainted by your visions. Youd either lose your mind or get increasingly frustrated. The frustration only worsens upon being constantly crossed by the gods. They lie to him. Forsake him. Honestly his hatred for zeus and his desire for revenge was his only source of sustenance after 2. Without that there is nothing. And that's what he was trying to avoid. The game makes it clear with their hope message. I dont think it's quite the assasination of his character you're making it out to be. He even realised ur points at the end of 3
Do you think that of kratos was not that brutal in gow3 they would just allow him to kill Zeus
I see people saying he killed innocents in the previous games too, but I think there's a clear distinction to be made.
In God of War 1, a lot of the killing of innocents were optional, and all of the ones that weren't were directly in his way. Not saying that justifies it, but considering everything Kratos went through, you could understand it. Also, there was that scene with Kratos sacrificing that spartan that later got retconned, remember that for later.
In God of War 2, with the added context of Ghost of Sparta, you really understand his rage; Kratos once again only really kills the innocent people who were directly in his way. Theseus and Icarus antagonise Kratos. This isn't bad, Kratos is not a good guy, but he isn't a villain either, he's just a broken man trying to keep what's left of him together.
However, in God of War 3, we then see Kratos have a complete disregard for humanity and it really doesn't make any sense. There's one line that always bothered me in God of War 3, after Kratos meets Ghost-Athena he says that he cares little for the suffering of man, he just wants to kill Zeus. However, the thing is, that humanity also includes Sparta, you know, part of the entire reason why Kratos went on his journey in God of War 2? He literally says to Zeus during their final battle in GoW2: "I will not let you destroy Sparta."
Sparta still exists thanks to him, that love for his city still burns within him, but now in GoW3, maybe not even an hour after that fight, he doesn't care for them? They're literally the last family he has left, I don't buy it. Remember, this was such a big deal that they specifically retconned that part in GoW1 where Kratos sacrifices a spartan, to him sacrificing one of Ares' soldiers, because it just wasn't consistent that he would kill a spartan like that.
I agree with you man, God of War 1 is my head-canonical ending.
Gow Ghost of Sparta Kratos and 2 Kratos make more sense than Gow 3 Kratos
Poseidon had a lot to do with hiding the fact Zeus was his dad he is angry at the end of gow2
“HOWDAREYOUINSULTGODOFWAR3”
-me before watching the video and completely agreeing with it
Throughout ghost of sparta it could be argued that all of the gods were conspiring against kratos. Both times kratos sailed the sea poseidon intervened with his atlantian soldiers and the storms, hades allowed the worse creatures in the underworld to attack kratos, zeus being present during the battle of thanatos just waiting there, hell you could even put athena in that mess for not being more objective about the prophecy and deceiving kratos. It wasnt just zeus in the ghost of sparta
imo the best video ever uploaded in your channel
OMG Zesty complaining about GOW3? I did not expect that.
Good video, but I dont fully agree with you. I think it makes sense that in GOW3 he is essentially done with the gods. I agree that he is different in God of War I, that he is a man who just wants to have a good night sleep. Then the gods deny him that and instead of letting him find peace through death they made him into the god of war. A job he was forced to do despite wanting something completely different. Think of it as if someone who wants to be a writer is forced to be the CEO of Microsoft or something along those lines. That's one thing.
The other thing is all the things that Zeus essentially did in Ghost of Sparta, breaking his remaining ties he has to his humanity and the way that Athena came at the end shows Kratos as if it was planned, which it was given that Zeus as the gravedigger said "Only one remains." And in top of that, he still has his nightmares. Then there is GOW2, which is what you said about the death of his people and city Sparta. But in the end, when he was so close to kill him (Initially, ofc if we dont consider his 'fear ghost' form because it was yet to be canon), Athena stops him.
Then she said litearly everyone will try to stop him, just like she did. Now he does say at first that he doesnt care about the others, only Zeus. But after Athena's speech, he changed his mind because of the implication that Zeus and Olympus are the same. Meaning all the suffering he has undergone. His denial of peace after being used by the gods, his death and the destruction of Sparta, are because of Zeus who is Olympus, so all of Olympus are at fault too. Yes, it is a flawed way to see this, but Kratos is both blinded by rage and most importantly, has nothing more to lose. And as Gaia essentially left him to die, she also told him she was using him. "You were a simple pawn, nothing more". So it is the same cycle again, hence why he is angry at her and the titans.
So it makes sense for him to be the villan of this story. The one to bring 'greek ragnarok'. But the attempt to redeem him did fail, like you said. They did a poor job with Pandora and him. However, at the same time, I do think that the idea as a whole is good. That slowly through his conquest of Olympus he does regain his humanity. That is a good premise. The execution though isn't as good as it could have been though.
Still,love the video. This is just my opinion and you are good to have yours. :)
In kratos' defence, every god he killed was in his way in 3.
And it is not like he can just let them live sinds they prob also regenerate their wounds fast so the clean solution would be to just kill them.
To ad on to that by the end of gow 3 the war with the titans is prety much over. This would lead to whole of olympus ganking on kratos which kratos prob also knows sinds he was a war general.
For helios' head we prety much needed it and kratos also says that before ripping it of so thats that going for him. He prob also knew of hermes' olympian one's ability to speed him up and such so I guese he cut them off knowing this info.
For hercules he prob just was just angry and we know at that point he doesnt care about the lives of the people insulting him.
For Hera's case I think the best explanation is the one zeus gave and that is that kratos is just reflecting his daughter caillou onto her and on top of that he did kill her father which had an effect on him sinds his quote came back in the fear section of the game.
I get that it is jarring that kratos had to kill trough olympus to get to zeus but keep in mind that there is legit no choice.
The same way odin wronged freya, zeus did that to kratos ten fold and wouldn't have rest till he knew he wouldn't come back. Again unlike odin, zeus would activly hunt down kratos sinds zeus has no reason to let a guy that almost killed him run around in greece while being afflicted with fear.
I get your point but I legit dont agree that there could've been another way
@@bigdawgc If Gow 3 didn't have the brutal kills that it had, it just wouldn't be the same, don't you think?
@@bigdawgc he was angry tho, he definitly starts getting angrier trough out the fight. Helios' head opening "secret" paths is still cannon sinds kratos calls it helpfull, so there is no reason to think that it was just for the sake of a game.
Hera was indeed weak but keep in mind kratos has been indenail about his actions sinds his debute. With him projecting his daughter onto her and him killing her dad that insult prob felt like she was insulting his dead daughter. Hera was playing inside a forest fire and instead of hiding she lit herself on fire.
Im unironicaly betting if every god did gank up on kratos he would be dead. This is not Ex GoW old kratos but the mortal ghost of sparta. He is tactical with how he fought the gods and combined with his demi god strenght he weathered them down leading to him winning a 1v1.
If hades and poseidon teamed up against kratos I would assure you that kratos would be at worst dead or at best in his end of statue fight condition. Now trow in zeus or herculese in there then kratos' raw strenght would also get tested.
Kratos IS strong, but not solo a whole pantheon at the same time type of strong
@@bigdawgc It doesn't but his brutalness makes perfect sense of where he stands
@@bigdawgc sure then we say it is for the game's sake.
Kratos was prety much in denail over the fact that the gods are playing him. I could be wrong on this but I think they even mentioned in gow 1 that the gods kept moving the goal post to keep him in their service and if it is not in that game then it is still cannon sinds chains of olympus exists.
He did see his daughter but it was like 5 min or something and lost the right to see her ever again after that. I can see him projecting his daughter onto any female child that even gives slight attention to him especialy after calling father in hell.
Kratos was a demi god but keep in mind that he IS a mortal. You need to be appointed as one (atleast in gow greece) to get all your powers as one. Contras it to atreus, he is strong but isn't as strong as a full god (the nordic gods in general seem to be just strong magic users) so being a mortal does make you prety much weaker then the gods. (Kratos with his raw strenght still beat atlas tho)
And him beating death was someone saving him the first 2 times and 3rd time hades just played around to much.
The reason why they didnt gank on kratos was because the titan war was going on. In the tutorial fights you can see every god fight a titan. If they ganked up against kratos then they would risk the titans destroying olympus while they were fighting.
@@bigdawgc tbh till this day we don't even know what perks being the GoW gives. The only perk so far is that the blades of chaos are following him when he has no weapons and super regen lol.
Tbh in the grand scheme of things kratos is defo not important at the start of the game. He only wanted zeus while the titans themself were after every god and were prety much a bigger problem then a guy that has to scale the biggest mountain in greece by foot.
Their problem was that they just decided to 1v1. A simple team up of herculese and hermese would prob have made a huge roadblock sinds hermese only got caught because he got too cocky.
Tbh all the wise guys in greece got prety much punished by zeus so them not having much wisdom couldve because of it. Most likely reason is because nobody had to power to be able to make the gods stop doing stupid stuff so they never learned
Yeah, they should make Kratos change ar the end of GoW 2 instead of GoW 3
Many people justifiedly only see him as a killing machine fueled by vengeance
Ares did nothing wrong.
Kratos did said and emphasized "Destroy my enemies, and MY LIFE IS YOURS"
"MY LIFE IS YOURS, Ares. From this day, I shall carry forth your will."
I don't think Kratos's life is just his lifespan, but also his family, his reason for living.
So, props for Kratos's lack of text interpretation...
Love your videos
1:20 "Cali-OOp"
I'M STEALING THAT FOREVER
Cali did an oopsie
one dought he serve gods for 10 years and i belive that the rage we saw in 3 was because of that they used him and at the end just say no and do not let him end himself please reply
Something that I'm not sure if explains why he is mad the way he is.. is the wager of the gods, where a bunch of gods gave a disease to their selected champions loved ones (kratos daughter, the barbarian king father, some others) with only one very rare cure, of all these champions only kratos won and the barbarian king swore revenge to kratos. All of this just just to have a statue of the winner god somewhere. This means the gods don't really care about humanity and bet their lives for superfluous things, I can't recall when kratos knew about this but it could give some explanation as to why he is the monster is at god of war 3.
13:40 Damn I really gotta start watching Berserk now 😢
He was only a captain at the time of GoW 1.
He was never a good guy
There is no sense in what u said on poseidon, if someone becomes an obstacle for the ghost of sparta and fight against him when his intention is to kill zeus OBVIOUSLY he's in rage and kill everyone who go against him brutally, the gods completely ruined his life and he have so much hate for them and if a god go against him he obviously kill him with brutality and poseidon is even the brother of zeus 🤷🏻♂️ it's easy to understand
Bro wtf is going on with zesty and gow 3 idk if he hates it or loves it
Yeah I found it very profund how Kratos main Motivation in the first Game was the Visions, he never specifically said anything about Revenge at all.
I guess the later Games wherent completly whitout Nuance, the Gods toyed whit the Mortals, Zeus killing him was just the last Straw.
It wasnt just him beeing an Ass, the Gods stopping him, and he as the bad Guy takes revenge. The Gods caused the Situation at the Start of GoW2.
You seem to forget the fact they all consider him an enemy and if he didn’t kill them one by one they will jump him
That might be but I don't think that's his point.
Sure it might make sense for Kratos to kill them all but he did it with such a high level of rage and brutality that you would think should only apply to Zeus and Ares.